Welcome to another episode of The Veterinary Roundtable! In this episode, the ladies tease Devyn about not knowing who Mr. Rogers is, show off their new podcast scrubs, clarify and answer inquiries from last episode, discuss their thoughts on the new Canine Parvovirus Monoclonal Antibodies treatment, and more!
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Intro 00:00
Devyn Doesn't Know Who Mr. Ro gers Is 00:30
The Ladies Have New Podcast Scrubs 03:14
Dr. King And Courtney Have Bingo Night 06:19
Inquiries From Last Episode 08:20
Case Collections 20:38
Listener Question (@brraatt_) 35:02
Outro 43:30
Welcome to another episode of The Veterinary Roundtable! In this episode, the ladies tease Devyn about not knowing who Mr. Rogers is, show off their new podcast scrubs, clarify and answer inquiries from last episode, discuss their thoughts on the new Canine Parvovirus Monoclonal Antibodies treatment, and more!
Do you have a question for The Veterinary Roundtable? Ask us on any social media platform or email harrison@kingmediamarketing.com!
Episodes of The Veterinary Roundtable are on all podcast services along with video form on YouTube!
Social Links: https://linktr.ee/allstarvetclinic
TIMESTAMPS
TIMESTAMPS
Intro 00:00
Devyn Doesn't Know Who Mr. Ro gers Is 00:30
The Ladies Have New Podcast Scrubs 03:14
Dr. King And Courtney Have Bingo Night 06:19
Inquiries From Last Episode 08:20
Case Collections 20:38
Listener Question (@brraatt_) 35:02
Outro 43:30
(upbeat music)- Are you ready?(laughing) Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the Veterinary Roundtable, the podcast where we answer your veterinary related questions while having some fun a long way. If you enjoyed today's episode, be sure to leave us a review on your podcast provider of choice and if you have any feedback to offer to improve the veterinary roundtable, please let us know.- No, because we are moving up, moving on up, we have very few more.- Do you guys know that show?- Yeah. - Moving on up.- Yeah, no, no.- I've heard it.- She's gonna say no, 'cause she--- Sad.- Thank you. She didn't even know who Mr. Rogers' neighborhood was.- What?- What?- Yeah.- You don't know what that was.- I know that.- I'm young, but I know that one.- Maybe if I saw something, I'd never--- Wait, we should sing it for you.- Wait, can you put Mr. Rogers' neighborhood on the screen?- That'd be great if we just be like, look at this.- I can't think of how it starts.- I don't remember. - Won't you be--- Won't you be my neighbor?- My neighbor.- Yeah, no, you don't know that. Do you know the Teletubbies?- I mean, I never watched it, but I know what the Teletubbies is. - Teletubbies would be her John Locke.- Yeah, you can't see me.- Those are not here.- Oh, you think they were after--- I was also called the Octopus.- Who?- They were before you.- Who's Oslo?- You came after the Teletubbies.- I said, oh.- No.- Yeah.- Well, I watched the Teletubbies.- I mean, they were older by the time they were on the screen.- I heard about them when I was in my teens.- Right, so they were there before you.- Yeah.- I liked Barney.- Yeah.- Yeah.- Barney was my thing.- No, who Barney is, right?- The Big Brother.- Please, you're clean.- Everybody, yeah.- Oh my God.- That was my favorite song ever.- Everybody, do your share.- I was not much of a machine.- We sing that all the time.- I just like, Oslo the Octopus, I named my bunny Oswald.- Hey, we are, no, we are.- Yeah.- We got a bunch of them.- We got a lot of them.- We got a lot of them.- We got a lot of them.- Cat dogs are good.- I was into like the Icarly and stuff when I was a little older.- I'm rush, victorious.- We got rug wraps.- Yeah, I watched that.- Oh, rug wraps, I know what it is, but I never watched it.- Oh my God, rug wraps.- Oh, okay, all right.- Okay, so we're up.- I'm up there.- We're getting up there in the podcast.- Get in the wild culture.- In the reviews. So we're very happy about that because--- We're going to--- Daven was just asking the other day about what was gonna happen to her.- She really wants it to happen, so please make it happen.- So, who always wins the tortoise or the hare?- The tortoise.- You calling me a tortoise?- The rhythm.- Or the rhythm.- The rhyme thing.(laughs)- Right, doesn't the tortoise win in that like a whole--- Yeah, that's the irony behind this.- That's the irony.- I'm talking about a tortoise in a year.- Okay.- Yeah.- What am I in the-- - It's a veterinary podcast.- Okay.- I also didn't ask if you--- I know you did it, I was just saying that.- Go with me.- Okay, so we're up to 149 on Spotify, 47 on Apple Podcast. Nice, nice.- What's up with that?- The bowl is 100.- I was 100 on Apple.- I figured Apple would be more popular than Spotify.- I know.- No, I actually-- - Is it fo free?- I don't have Apple.- It's full free on both.- Oh. I think.- Could be.- I don't use that.- Usually you don't pay for podcasts.- Here, say give us a thumbs up if it's fo free.- What? Probably just do it as the thumbs up.- Thumbs up, okay.- We can't see this case.- I know, man.- So I'm Dr. King.- I'm Courtney Allen. I'm Devon Fortune.- I'm Dr. Doc Wall.- It's nice to see you.- Welcome.- And does anybody-- Do you want to ask the question?- What question?- Our squelts.- Potter scraps.- No, you didn't.- You did, didn't you say you wanted to--- No, I didn't.- And say, "Watch the podcast."- You said if you watch the podcast, you get a high-five.- I know that would be me.- Yeah.- Okay, okay, okay.- Are we doing it?- Go for it.- All righty. If you happen to watch the podcast'cause it is available for viewing on YouTube, you have to figure out what is new besides our set 'cause we announced that last week, or whatever week that was. So if you guess right, you get a high-five.- We'll give you a shout out.- We'll give you a virtual high-five and a shout out. We'll all give it to you, so I'm gonna say it at the same time. So we will check to see who comes first.- Can I say this, ready guys?- Plushing up.- Plushing up.- All right, that's awesome. That's awesome.- No hints, but we are on fire today.- You know what's so exciting?- Yeah.- Whoa, somebody get the water.(laughing)- Oh, fire.- We are hot tubales.(laughing)- Oh, gosh. Okay, so we had some inquiries. We had some inquiries. I don't know, okay, so here's the difference between Emily and I, Dr. King and I. I read it and I was like,- Oh, what are you looking at?- Hold on, that was actually a question.- I would talk to you.- What inquiry?- Oh, inquiry. This brings up a good point. You do say things differently. Like, I'm not you.- People are in general.- Inquiry.- Yeah.- I've never heard inquiry. Sounds like you're adding letters, but I mean, I'm sure you're curious.- Listen, I am a really good speller.- Let's look at a poll.- Some of my, I was a spellable.- Everybody says I was a spellable, okay.- Okay, so, and I've a ribbon.- Where's your ribbon?- Inquiry.- I and you, I, R, Y, inquiry.(laughing)- That was really good spelling bee.- It's also on the paper.- I'm using it in a sense.- Well, I told you I've been through it.- I know, I was so saying, that was really good. I like spelling bee etiquette.- What's the word?- Wait, we skipped over the introduction.- You break up the word.- I'm in church or something like this.- I like cobbles. What am I looking for?- We did miss a part.- You break up the word in syllables. What is that?(humming)- Sintax?- Sintax?- No.- That sounds like a drug. Like, when, on the commercials.- Me, Jackson.- Listen, I'm listening to that bio-sintax.- I know, I think, I don't teach English.- I think syntax is like the, the format of sentences.- You're probably right again.- It doesn't, it doesn't sound like a particular, it doesn't work, anyway. It doesn't matter.- Well, we're supposed to talk about our event tonight.- I think it would be good.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- We're supposed to talk about our event.- I'm going to be going.- I'm going to be going.- I'm going to be going.- Where are you guys going?- I'm going to be going.- I'm going to be going to beg me.- It's designer bag bingo.- Designer bag bingo.- Designer bag bingo.- And you know me.- I'm going to be going to beg me.- I'm going to be going to beg me.- I'm going to be going to beg me.- I'm going to be going to beg me.- I'm going to be going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- Designer bag bingo. And you know me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg me.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- I'm going to beg you.- No.- It's better than a medicine.- Yeah.- If you're watching, you got to know what you're watching.- We can put it on the moji on the graphics spots.- Yeah.- There you go.- Yeah.- That's right.- Okay. Now we're ready for the inquiries.- Okay.- Wow.- The inquiries from the last episode.- Yeah. I was taking this as like a dig. And then the darker king was like, no. They're just sharing information. So that's just the difference between us. I'm like, oh, we said something wrong. They're coming at us.- Negative Nancy.- Yep.- That's not a patty. That was a bad...- Coming at you.- They're from @RickySchroeder.- Yep.- So number one. I guess number one, you should watch the podcast from last week if you want to understand what these are about. Okay. So from Ricky, I have had a female feline patient with your rethral obstruction.- Yes. So have I?- Right. And we also had a doctor, a doctor, a doctor, had a dog, female. Get obstructed, which is really weird too.- So it's possible, I guess, is the point, which is as much as how much.- How many have you had in your career?- Two.- I haven't had any so far.- Right.- Yes.- I mean, we, I'm an unstructured or it was fine. I mean, it was not. It was just annoying, but it wasn't like anything bad happened. But that is the reason why you run the catheter in a systodomy retrograde and normal grade because you may flush something down there. That's one way you'll end up with something in the rethra of a female. But then, I guess you could see this person is probably talking specifically that the patient presented as a blonde female patient.- Yeah. So passing your nary catharsis and females are especially dogs, pain in the rear.- Yeah.- No fun. Nope. Okay. Second number, number two. Second number, number two, that didn't make any sense. Okay.- Third of systodomy along with deobstructing a cat. Recently I saw a cat on social media have a permanent systodomy with a port that owner drain and kept clean. I wonder if that will become a common option. They do make permanent systodomy in production goats that have bladder stones and obstruction concerns.- I didn't know that was interesting.- Well, I think what he's talking about is the urethrostomy.- Oh.- Right.- In a goat. Like in a male, so like if you had a male dog and he was obstructed and you couldn't relieve the obstruction because of the auspienis, then you might end up just making an open urethrostomy.- Yeah.- That makes sense.- Right. And then just peeing out of that opening, not out of the tip of the penis.- So is it like a PEU surgery?- Yeah.- Or kind of.- Or kind of take away any of the enemy.- Oh, I see.- You're just leaving an opening.- I see.- It's like a salvage procedure.- Yeah.- So maybe that's what.- I kind of remember it from school. But male goats are really, really bad for this stuff. We saw a lot in large animal housing.- Another reason not to have a goat.- Yeah.- Yeah.- Okay. So, and what has happened?- And to the first point, never obstructing a cat with his, well, I mean, yeah.- We stabilize the cat. We don't go straight to his histotomy. But if we look and see all that crud in there, you don't have to. I guess that's the other point is, but I learned coming, working alongside you, that usually those just go hand in hand because eventually you might end up there.- Those are the reason they belong.- Yeah.- Then you have to.- Right.- Because they don't read stones.- Right.- When I pull the UCAS.- Yeah. As soon as you pull it, they're just going to re-abstruct.- Right.- Yeah.- You don't have enough time, I guess, to leave the urethra open long enough such that the diets would dissolve the stones.- Yes.- Because you can't leave the urethra in for weeks at a time.- Right.- I mean, that's a good point.- So, yeah. That's why we end up doing them a lot more frequently than what we used to.- Mm-hmm.- Yep. All right. You guys want to do them with three?- Sure. I got it.- Okay.- Recent WVC DCM update. Any dog on green-free, boutique, exotic and green diets is recommended to have cardiac BNP testing as a screening. And if they do have DCM secondary to diet, there can be improvement/resolution if early in disease with switching diets.- Good to know. So WVC, that must have been a new announcement.- Yeah. And that's smart, though, because what I was reading was that if they get DCM, then you have to start treating it as DCM. So, knowing that there can be improvement/resolution is.- Yeah. Pretty good. I think you have to catch it very early.- Right.- Yeah.- That's the problem is that what you're screening them once a year, yeah. So like what's happening the other 364 days of the, like, you know, what's to say that your probi-MP is in the normal range, right, this month and next month. But yet, you're going to wait entire another year to, so I think that's why they say it's so hard once you find it to reverse it.- Yeah.- Because if you just got lucky and found it right away.- Found it right away.- Yeah.- Maybe.- Yeah, I'm not sure.- Okay. But yeah, that's cool.- We made a video on DCM with grain-free diets in the past few days, Dr. Hamden, she.- She's got all the all-starved out of her.- Yeah, she just did a little blurb about it. Talk about it.- Okay.- Cookoo.- Cookoo-cool.- Okay, shout outs.- Okay, shout outs.- Shout outs.- Shout outs.- One thing you do.- One more time.- What's doing right in the world?- In veterinary medicine.- In veterinary medicine.- I guess you could do the whole world.- Yeah.- Okay, but.- Okay. I don't, I had to really good on last time. I don't have a good on this time. I don't even have one this time yet.- I kind of honestly think of them on the spot. I'll be very honest with you.- Hair's on, I think.- Oh.- You said what?- I said, I kind of think of them on the spot. She just had hair since texting us.- It's hard for Arizona to talk to us. He's all the way over the other side of the room.- Yeah.- What do you say? Tell us that.- One moment.- What did our production manager say?- He's on the clear office inside of the studio from us behind a whole bunch of monitors, so we can't see him.- Hello.- Okay, okay, okay, yes.- Okay, he sent us another inquiry.- Oh, we're just switching all the way around.- Breaking that.- Breaking the digital.- Okay, breaking news, hit it.- It applies to the DCM combo says from, I don't know. Okay, from Vital Vet Nutrition on Instagram. As an nutritionist, I respectfully disagree and think it's far more nuanced than that. And that formulation and quality control is way more important than avoiding ingredients. Also, if we are going to go, if we are going to oversimplify and say, stay away from green-free completely, then a lot of veterinary therapeutic diets fall into that very broad and nonsensific category. So what theoretical novel protein diets are we going to recommend to our patients? I think that we can give ever more specific and better advice to our clients and patients.- Oh, good note.- Wow.- Yes.- Okay, wait.- Don't we appreciate your inquiry?- I can't read without blowing this up.- I'll read you in a second.- Vital Vet Nutrition. That's the person who wrote it. Vital Vet Nutrition.- Right?- Is that a food brand?- No, no, no. She's a nutritionist.- Oh, okay.- So this is awesome because she needs to call in so we can pick her brain.- Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest. I just had this conversation yesterday with a client about veterinary nutrition. And I'll be like, or I was like, we don't get a whole lot of nutrition, education in school. You learn a lot as you come out and then all of a sudden there's all these thousands of diets and then you're like, well, crap, there's so many things out there. Well, I do think that we did say that it's not an ingredient. We don't know what it is.- I was saying in general, not about last time.- Okay.- Carry on.- No, no, like because of what the nutritionist is saying. Like I don't want to give the impression that we said you, that it's only these great free diets, like you know what I'm saying?- Yeah.- They don't know what it is. There's no consensus as to what is causing it.- Yeah.- But the thought is to avoid them. So why are they telling us to avoid them? Why are the powers that be saying, right? Listen, you should be telling your clients to avoid them. You're saying, what are we supposed to do then? Well, I'm saying, you're the nutritionist. Tell me what I'm supposed to be saying.- Yeah.- Yeah.- Do you know what I'm saying? Okay, so what is it? She did not watch the whole episode, just the podcast clip I uploaded.- Thanks, Harrison.- But, so we need to, this is really great. We need to ask if she'll be on podcast.- We need a nutritionist.- I wonder where she's based.- Let's see.- Yeah, tell us.- But myself and other commenters told her to listen to the full episode as you guys answered a few of her questions and concerns. So okay, that's why it makes sense and why I'm saying what I'm saying and he's saying, oh, wait a second, she only listened to this one clip when we talked about it. But we did because I was like, did she not listen to that?- You know, funny that because I saw that clip pop up of me saying, of us saying, stay away from grain-free diets. And I was like, huh, I wonder if that's going to ruffle some feathers because it's just going straight to that. And if people don't listen to the full episode, then they're not going to know why we're saying that, right? It did say it. There is a lot of different--- It did, but--- Oh, it did, it did, it did, it did, it did, it did, it did, it did, it did, it did, it ruffle some feathers.- Okay, but I, and I just love that she was willing to say something though. So that's why though--- Yeah, we hardly ever get to pick the brain of a veterinary nutritionist.- Yeah, we really don't. So--- Come on.- Come down to the--- Come down to the--- That's what we have to do. We don't know why, so just--- Don't do it.- Avoid it, right?- Yeah.- Like, why would we say at your own risk?- The thought of the point is, what are you going to use for novel protein diets then? Because you don't have grain in it.- Yeah.- Or I think is what, and that is true. I mean, hills, real canine, you know, they have novel protein diets. So what are we supposed to use then?- Right. We essentially are putting them on a grain-free formula.- Mm-hmm.- Right?- Is it completely grain-free?- Dup can sweet potato.- And it's completely grain-free.- Right?- Yeah.- And then the blue alligator.- Right, so then she's saying, okay, but I don't think, my point is that I don't think that they know what's causing it, which is true because there's no consensus about what's causing it. There may be some other ingredient in those diets that we aren't aware of that's causing the DCM.- It's just the--- So that's hence where avoid those diets come from because you don't know.- And these diets have not been implicated in development of DCM because the FDA put out that entire--- Yeah, it's going to say there are certain brands. There's a whole chart that says, which ones were--- Whereas these ones, what she's talking about, the novel protein diets from hills, real canine, have not been implicated in the development of DCM, which is I think why people said there's something else in the ingredient list in these boutique and these exotic diets that aren't in these other main production company diets that are causing DCM.- Which is to her point of quality control, why that's so important too.- Right.- Okay, so vital vet nutrition, if you're listening, please call us so you can come on a podcast and then we can pick your brain and you can help us be smarter.- Yeah, maybe they have more research that we don't know yet or something. I don't know.- And maybe she can help us give better even more specific advice to our clients.- Yeah.- And our patients.- How do you talk to the clients?- Yeah, I like it.- I think we can do that.- Okay, we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so that's it, right there.- We can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- Okay, so we can do that.- 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so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, so there we go.- Okay, cool.- Okay, cool.- I'm gonna give my case, I was gonna do a case, but I'm gonna do instead, so we don't spend too much time. I'm gonna do a case that will brought to mind, okay, I can't talk. The case of a case of a case. No, we had a shout out on social media about a cat that had eaten a foreign body that was,- That was a dog.- That was a dog, sorry.- I just figured it was like, my case is a cat.- I don't know.- But the did it. But that Courtney and I were talking about before the podcast started. She sent a picture in of the dog who ate all of these hair man's, right, basically, like gobs and gobs of them.- They were up 15.- Throughout 15 and then still had to have surgery to remove another 55.- 55, yeah, 55.- 55 bald.- A grand total of 70 hair ties.- I don't even own 70 hair ties.- Wow.- Do they just keep buying more because they couldn't find the good one?- We got the cat that I saw that we ended up doing surgery on, ended up with like 20 of the rubber hair ties. And his stomach was so hard you could feel it on the outside of his attitude.- Wow.- When you were palpating his abdomen, yeah, it felt corrugated.- Wow.- It was the straight, and so it was distended when we went in to do surgery. I mean, it was just full and he just pulled them out.- I'm so lucky, my cats are not like that.- Yeah.- They were knock on wood.- No, I know.- This is a wood.- I'll be honest that first, I saw the picture. I just, I didn't read it. I just saw the picture and I was like, oh, it's just, it's an obstruction of parasites. Because that's also a thing that they got started from adult parasites.- Yeah, yeah.- Yeah, yeah.- And the hard thing too when, reason why I was going to bring up cats is that it's hard to make a vomit. Like they don't usually vomit. You can try, but they're kind of like--- We talked about that last podcast.- Yeah, we just bonded around.- Yeah, yeah.- Well, they'll do these patients. They like sat on the spinning chair and spun around and--- Try to make a vomit.- Yeah, yeah.- Didn't work.- Cats don't, yeah, cats don't.- They just don't like to.- Nope.- So anyway, Devon, thank you for sending that.- Yeah. We use Dexto-Mator.- Just, okay.- Dexto-Mating, to try, but--- Yeah.- Yeah.- It doesn't work a lot of the time.- It doesn't work.- Nope.- It doesn't work.- So you usually go scoping if you can or--- Yeah.- Pray or surgery.- Or surgery.- Pray.- Pray for you.- Okay, let's go and listen to your questions. What are your thoughts on the new monoclonal parvo antibodies? What's your clinic go to parvo treatments? At B--- B rat.- B rat.- B rat.- B rat.- B rat.- B rat.- Okay, I love the monoclonal antibody stuff. I love that they're coming out with it. Not just this drug, all of it.- Got it.- I love all of it, every single bit of it.- We haven't had to use it yet, no?- No.- No.- It's not parvo season.- Right.- Wait, are we talking about panacool?- No.- That's a great time to talk about this.- Okay, okay.- But the monoclonal antibody for parvo is C, I think that is it, K9 parvo monoclonal parvo C and A.- It's almost parvo C and A.- What is it called?- C-P-M-A.- Okay.- Because it's on like conditional approval.- Yeah.- So--- I guess I was thinking pinkery titles when I read that.- Yeah, so you can order it, but that will be, I think that will be the go to treatment.- I do too. I think we just had the rep talk to us about it and just hearing, I don't remember the stats and I don't want to say the wrong thing, but basically it was impressive how they treated in their studies with just that and then I don't, again, don't remember the timeline, but they were able to improve and do fine without any additional treatment.- And I think the cool thing is that if you have a lot of times, unfortunately, when we're talking about treating parvo cases, it's so expensive.- Yeah.- And so being able to, the people that are having difficulty from a financial perspective, affording treatment for their dog, their puppy, being able to even just a shot in the dark, like you're giving this one the zit. Like I'm gonna spend my money on this and keep my fingers crossed. And those patients, I think, will be able to help a lot better than what we currently were.- I guess so too.- So like our previous treatment was a combination of hospitalization with IV fluids, antibiotics, anti-naudia medication, sometimes pain medication.- Right.- That's the same thing.- Am I missing anything?- Well, if it's, you can also do outpatient as the case of the severe.- Is there anything else that?- No, I'm just thinking of the feeding, but usually I've never had to do any like tube feeding or anything.- Yeah.- But you still have to get them feeling well enough to eat.- So it's just like one IV injection?- Yeah.- How long is it supposed to take to take effects?- Well, it binds right to the site, so it keeps the problem from entering the cell. So you have to also get it in a, you don't want it at the right time.- Right. Like if your dog has been sick for four days, I don't think that's gonna be an ideal situation.- Yeah, it would be great for a litter of puppies where a dog tested par of it positive, and then you've got these other puppies. You'd be giving it to all of them.- Yeah.- You know? And so I think that's, that's, at least when I was reading is that it binds the site, keep the par of IVs from going into the cell.- Okay.- So if a puppy comes in and they've been vomiting and having bloody diarrhea, do you give it to them? Or does it just depend on case by case?- I think you'd still test for par of O.- Like, and then if it, if the dog super super sick you wouldn't recommend it?- No, I think they would still do it.- I think it's just more.- I think it's more of my applications.- And I gotcha.- Yeah.- You know, it's more likely too, because you already have, because with par of O virus, you're not, when we're treating them, historically when we've treated them, we're not treating the virus. We're treating the second of symptoms that the virus is causing, and we're letting the virus run its course.- That's not true.- Right? So that's already happening in that dog that's three to four to five days into the virus, all those secondary things are happening. So giving the drug, the monoclonal antibody, which is to keep the virus from doing what it's supposed to do, is the trains are down the track.- I see.- So you can't, it's hard to slow it down. So I think that's why they say, the sooner you can give it, the better off you are, you know, with those patients. But would I still use it?- Probably.- Yeah.- Because not gonna hurt anything.- Yeah.- Yeah.- You know.- Interesting.- Yeah.- I wonder how much it'll be.- It's, and it's for eight weeks and older, not that I wouldn't use it off label in somebody under eight weeks.(laughs) It's supposed to be eight weeks and older. It's actually not cost prohibitive.- Good.- So, I mean, it's not like $50, don't get me wrong.- Right.- But I think, if it works, it's better than $70 or $70.- Not like panic-well.- I'm sorry.- It's not like panic-well. Like panic-well is like,- Panic-well, or?- Panic-well, or?- Also multiple doses.- Yeah.- You open, you have to use the vial and it's three to take it up.- So, you have to give it a couple times in a row.- Yeah, you can just.- It's not one in a row.- Yeah.- Yeah. But I think, yeah, I think it's gonna be huge for different parts of the country.- Yeah.- You know, they do wear rescues or shelters where, then it spreads in a, you could really, it could make a huge difference for those guys.- Yeah, I'm excited.- Yeah.- I wanna try it.- We have it. It's got, the great thing if you're listening is it's got like a really long expiration. So you can order it and I think it's like either a two or three or expiration date.- Yeah. So you're not out the product if you order it.- Yeah.- Stay tuned.- Yeah.- And we'll have it.- What we did was we told their surrounding clinics that we had it. So they didn't order it. So then between the three of us, then we probably will use it.- Yeah.- So it's almost part of our season.- Yeah.- It is.- It's almost warm it up.- Yeah.- We're already not this way.- Not that we want that.- Yeah.- So I think that, that with fluids, antinosium eds, yeah, probably would be the treatment.- Yeah.- Moving forward.- Do you remember the representative saying that you still would continue your vaccine series? So with your DAPP for your puppies and stuff. So.- Yeah.- I mean, because obviously they need the other parts of the vaccine as well.- Right.- They don't just need the part of the vaccine.- Yeah.- So yeah.- Yeah.- Yeah.- And you said what's your clinic go to parbo treatment? So fluid therapy, serenia, on dancetron, if we need that to AD. I mean, you got to get a meeting as soon as possible to get the gut happy.- Yeah.- Yeah. Very cool. So yeah, these new products that are coming out are just amazing. Okay. What you got?- We have more breaking news. This is just distracted.- Many people have inquired about CPMA and said it's worked wonders. Many of the pet owners, many of the pet owner inquiries were concerned about cost of it.- I think that if you're going to hospitalize a dog for parbo, it's going to save you money.- Yeah.- So, you know, because you're spending money one way or another, you're spending money on all these other things, or you're spending money on the CPMA.- Yeah.- So you use the CPMA.- You use the money wisely.- Yeah.- So.- Yeah. Agreed.- Okay.- So cool. There's so many cool things going on.- Go vet med.- Yes.- In a showdown.- That's a shout out.- Go vet med growing.- Go vet med growing.- I'm just growing.- Changing every day.- Is it you would say only?- We did it only.- Is it only in the USA?- Is it only in USA?- Unlike.- I would have to look at the double check.- I bet it.- You're up before it got here.- As I was going to say, it's always in Europe before it's ever here.- But Brello was.- Yeah, things are always over there.- Brello's in Canada before here.- I think the restrictions are just, it's a softer restrictions.- Yeah.- So the FDA, the, yeah. I think that's the way it goes.- He, that was more breaking news.- More breaking news.- Wow.- Is the breaking news over?- Yeah. This is stressful.- We need to clash up on this thing.- We need earpieces.- We need earpieces.- Oh, yeah, there we go.- Exactly.- Oh my god.- We breaking news.- Wait, I'm getting something.- What?- I don't know what I'm going to turn into a news state.- Harrison from the studio.- Well, I think in all and all this was a great podcast because we got some feedback.- We got need.- Disgust.- We discussed.- Nutrition things.- So we're going to follow up on that.- Mm-hmm.- Rick.- Rick.- What's up, news?- Ricki.- New stuff.- Give us some input.- Thank you, Ricki.- Or experiences.- Mm-hmm.- Disgust.- Parvodrag. Anything else?- I feel like it was a big day.- It was a big day.- Dr. King and I are going to beef go.- We're going to have a McBingo baby.- We are.- We are.- This does not compare at all. But I've been missing my favorite chapstick for the past two months. And I found it today in the pocket of one of my jackets.- There we go.- So, that's like when you put on an old jacket, you find twenty bucks in it.- Yeah.- That's going to be a good day.- That's the way that you bought anything.- You go to a baby sale. Clothing thing tonight. There you go.- A baby sale.- A baby sale.- A baby sale.- A baby sale. A baby clothing sale.- Wow.- Wow.- It's got a new slippers on.- All right, everybody.- All right, let's leave. Thank you so much for tuning into another episode of The Veterinary Roundtable. Remember sending those questions and leave us a review if you've enjoyed this episode or previous one. We'll see you next week for another episode of The Veterinary Roundtable.- Bow, bow, bow.- Woo!(upbeat music)