Be Freaking Awesome Podcast
Tired of surface-level conversations and sugar-coated advice? You’re in the right place.
Be Freaking Awesome is not your average personal growth podcast. Hosted by Angela and Sami, an insightful mother-daughter duo with a gift for keeping it real, this is the space where authenticity, emotional intelligence, and radical self-awareness come together.
We’re not here just to inspire you. We’re here to equip you with tools, stories, and soul-level truths that will help you grow in the real world, not some Pinterest-perfect version of it.
Each week, we open up the real stuff: the messy middles, the limiting beliefs, the grief we never processed, the boundaries we were never taught to hold, and the dreams we’re still afraid to say out loud. From navigating burnout and setting healthy boundaries to healing your relationship with money and learning how to sit with hard emotions, we go deep and we do it with compassion, humor, and zero judgment.
This show is especially for the big-feeling, high-achieving, people-pleasing, growth-obsessed folks who are ready to stop pretending they’ve got it all together and actually start living aligned. If you've ever said, “I know there’s more for me,” or “I’m tired of carrying all this alone,” this podcast was made for you.
We bring two generations of experience, two distinct but complementary perspectives, and one shared mission: to help you stop settling, start healing, and live a freaking awesome life.
You’ll hear from a mix of powerful guests including trauma-informed financial coaches, creatives who turned pain into purpose, and business leaders with heart. We also share solo and co-hosted episodes where we dive into our own struggles and triumphs from the therapy room to the boardroom to our own kitchen table.
We’re not into quick fixes or perfectionism. We’re into progress, emotional regulation, nervous system safety, redefining success, and showing up with more courage, joy, and clarity than you ever thought possible.
No matter where you are on your journey, whether you’re starting over, in transition, building something bold, or just feeling a little lost, we’re here to remind you that you are not broken, you are not too much, and you are capable of far more than you’ve been led to believe.
Take a breath. Hit play. And get ready to do the deep work of becoming who you were always meant to be.
This is your space to grow, heal, laugh, cry, question, and transform. Because life’s too short to settle for anything less than freaking awesome.
Be Freaking Awesome Podcast
EP83 Traveling Light Launch Day
Join us as we celebrate a significant landmark in our co-host Angela Belford's life, the launch of her new book, Traveling Light. An engaging exploration of the lasting impact of incomplete emotional cycles, Angela’s book promises to change your life, one percent at a time.
Angela's son Josh, the original host of the Be Freaking Awesome podcast, joins us in this conversation, sharing what he's been up to and relishing his part of the journey. It's not just about a book but also about the connections we form, the shared experiences that mold us, and how we navigate life's twists and turns.
Finally, we take a step back and look at our podcast journey, reflecting on how it has been instrumental in introducing Angela's book to the world. Angela's journey is a testament to resilience and tenacity, reminding us all that there's always a light at the end of the tunnel. So, come join us in our celebration of the release of "Traveling Light!"
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Welcome everyone to the be freaking awesome podcast. I'm one of your co host, Sammy Kinneson, here with Angela Belford and Superstar Legend in the be freaking awesome world has been on more episodes than anyone else besides Angela. The one and only Josh Belford here to join us back for our book launch episode Woo.
Speaker 2:And I'm your host, josh Belford. Welcome everyone back to the OG. Be freaking awesome podcast. Thanks for joining us, sammy, as my guest Remember this was I'm the host and so, as the permanent guest and, sammy, you're a guest.
Speaker 1:Am I the temporary permanent guest?
Speaker 2:Yes, you are the temporary permanent guest and I am the less permanent host.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:I like it. The less permanent host. I love it. Josh, wait. Okay, I feel like we need a little episode, like you do on a sitcom, like previously on the be freaking awesome podcast. What you've been doing. You've been gone for seven, eight months.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think that what you got doing where I left off, that was, I was about to start my job at JB hunt, which I have done. I'm eight months, or eight and a half months, into my rotations going through the different departments of intermodal and JB hunt corporate. Since then, I've also gotten married. You guys heard about the engagement story. I've now been married April 15.
Speaker 1:It's like you're going to say April fools.
Speaker 2:No, it's part of my password is like it's our, it's like oh four, one, five. But I always mix it up and I put like oh five, one, four, and so I almost said that's why I said almost at 14. We can just cut that part out.
Speaker 1:So you tell everybody what your password is. Well and not to like you know, tell you that we were talking about you behind your back, but we did tell everybody. You got married and when we were recording episodes around the time of your wedding and we were like we stole my story. We did steal your story.
Speaker 2:So all the traumatizing things people have and haven't talked about in good light and in bad light, that's one thing from our childhood that it didn't really traumatize me, it was just, it was always a touchy subject.
Speaker 3:It wasn't always a touchy subject. It became a touchy subject.
Speaker 2:It became a touchy subject in the family and that's why we all paused. And if you're watching the YouTube, that I don't know if it's set up. That's why we're all laughing and cringing a little bit.
Speaker 1:Also like I, you know there's a lot of things I think from our childhood but like I've processed through and I feel pretty good about and like I can talk about it without a lot of feelings. This one definitely was closer to my adult life, like my transition from teenage to adult life, and still talking about it, like oh, I feel myself shrink a little bit. Like oh, and like I feel it physically Maybe I need to go unpack some of this stuff and some some new.
Speaker 2:Maybe you should read this new book that I've heard of. It's called Traveling Light. Maybe it'll help you out.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I think that that would, you know, definitely make a difference.
Speaker 2:But realistically, as no shock to you guys or the listeners, I have not read the book already. I am not a part of the launch team who got it early. I will be at the launch party which is going to be released, I guess when you guys are listening to this yesterday. So, as someone who hasn't read the book and isn't part of the launch team, what is the book about? Angela?
Speaker 3:Oh, my goodness, you could think, after talking about this for two years, that I could say this quickly and easily, and I spent a lot of time a week or so ago in Wisconsin and everybody was asking me that question. This book is about freedom from the crap in your head. And by crap in your head, what I mean is when we are children, lots of things happen to us. The definition of trauma is things that happen to you that you can't make sense of, and I think when we're children, those things that we can't make sense of cause us more angst and more trauma and affect how we see the world, and most of us don't ever take time to unpack the mental garbage. We just keep piling things in. And so your parents taught you look both ways before you cross the street. Leave that. That is not baggage. You need that. This is good learning.
Speaker 3:But if your parents taught you don't talk to strangers, I'm pretty sure y'all were never taught that, or at least you were never modeled that. It's funny that I use that as an example. But if you were taught don't talk to strangers, it serves you when you're a child to stay safe, but it is not necessarily something that is going to serve you as an adult, especially if you're experiencing loneliness. You start a new job, you move to a new town and you want to make friends. If you decided a long time ago not to talk to strangers, then that's not going to serve you. So it's a matter of unpacking the things that you have been taught, the things that you have decided, and choosing how you want to live your life. Going forward Josh reactions.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, give it to us. I see you holding it back.
Speaker 2:No no, no, there's not any holding back. Is that, I don't know what to say? Like it sounds great. You know what I mean, and it sounds like what you've been talking about writing about for a while now.
Speaker 3:The book I talked about it.
Speaker 2:What was that?
Speaker 3:I said the book actually ended up being what I talked about. I don't figure.
Speaker 2:My biggest thing that I would comment on and it's a little less about the book. So sorry, we can quick pivot right after I say it. You can find the receipts in the podcast. Go way back when we talked about the spelling of light, how she was going to spell it, and she for a while was playing out spelling it and I was always confused that I thought it was going to be LIGHT, because I thought she meant light as like a lantern light, and so she ended up going with traveling light LIGHT. She's shaking her head, but you can find the receipts. It's there. I know it exists.
Speaker 3:Why are you saying find your receipts? That's a weird.
Speaker 2:It's a Gen Z term of the receipts, because texting they call them like the receipts. So if you go back in your texts with somebody they check the receipts to see what happened.
Speaker 1:It's yeah it's like prove yourself. Show me the receipts. You say this person said a main thing or did something. Where the receipts at? I want to see the proof.
Speaker 2:So, the proof. The proof is in the previous podcasts. I remember it at some point. Don't know what you said.
Speaker 1:So what's really interesting, as one of communication guru aficionado, as my business card says, I like LIGHT could also be weight, like that is weight as well as like a lamp, and I don't know why that this is the very first singular moment that I have ever thought, oh, it could be like a lamp or like a flashlight or like a guide, like we've talked about. This book is like a guide. You know, it's like a guidebook for people. It's a how to. It's like a light. She literally ordered flashlights as like a thing to give away to people and I was like well, that's kind of me. But like wait, no, like that's it, like that is the thing, and I don't know why I we've been talking about this thing for months now and that's like all.
Speaker 3:I have done is traveling life.
Speaker 1:And I never thought of it as a traveling lantern light.
Speaker 3:What's so funny is that early on, josh seriously and I think it was not during a recording, but I think it was like once we quit recording, he goes. I think this is the dumbest idea ever for a book. Why and he was, and he was only hearing it as like travel lantern or travel lamp. Why would? Why do you need it? Why do you need a light? I don't understand. This is so dumb. Why do you need a lamp Anyway?
Speaker 2:and so he totally hated on that and so I don't think I was that mean about it, though that sounds really rude. Rude is just not really my forte. I think you guys know that I'm always very lighthearted and nice and not sarcastic, and so, okay, that was all sarcasm, but I actually do think I was not as mean. I want to. I want the record to show. I don't think I said that meanly, as you just described.
Speaker 1:So you started out there was like Okay, okay, I'll give it to you. Like you're not always that mean, you're like rude is not my thing, and I'm like Sometimes you have been rude and then you're like never, Okay, okay, here we go, like I cannot let this rest.
Speaker 2:Well, it started off as genuine and quickly turned into sarcasm which is pretty on on brand. And then yes, but then I wanted to go back on the sarcasm and make sure my point was made. I like it.
Speaker 1:So traveling light, this book is a guide light for you. It is a guiding light to look to.
Speaker 2:it is also a guide light to help you get rid of your baggage that you want to make lighter.
Speaker 1:So in today actually not the today that you guys are listening to the state, today that we're recording this we were talking about ideas for her book launch party and some of the ideas was like emotional bag toss, so basically like baggo, but it's just. It's just baggo or cornhole, but you call it your emotional baggage that you're throwing around instead like different things like that. So, yes, let's throw around our emotional baggage and just have a good time while we're doing it. That's great. I don't know where to go from here.
Speaker 3:This episode is adding value to anyone's life, but I'm entertained.
Speaker 1:Is that what they say to do online? Either educate, entertain or inform. Those should be the things you're aiming to do. Here we are, josh, since you have not read the book or really you know that dope dive, so I have a different explored the book content. Oh man, since you have not how many?
Speaker 3:how long will it take us before we get our first offers to reference?
Speaker 1:Oh, you just miss it. It was definitely just what happened.
Speaker 2:Jim, what's it called whenever someone micromanages another person? Microjuvant.
Speaker 1:Yes, thank you. Stop microjuvanting me, oh gosh, since you haven't really, you know, jumped into all of the content and whatever we're going to use a different word here I feel like we could probably describe you as somebody who might be a little bit more like not into self help books and things like that. Is there and this maybe is a question for Josh and for Angela Is there something that would sort of make you give traveling light a chance? And, angela, why do you think this stands out and why would you encourage people to read it anyway, even if you know personal development books aren't necessarily someone's jam?
Speaker 2:I can answer this for the both of us. One reason that would make me give a chance would be because my mom wrote it, and one reason why Angela should think that other people should give a chance is because she wrote it.
Speaker 1:It's a good answer. Way to suck up.
Speaker 3:Oh, my word, that is so great.
Speaker 1:All right, angela. What's the real answer?
Speaker 3:Well, it's super hard, because one of the things that I am now that the book is out, my next phase of life is about really spreading the word about this book, and that involves getting author talks at bookstores and getting booked to do speaking gigs like at conferences, lunch and learns workshops, that sort of thing, and so I have been spending a lot of time figuring out what is my really succinct message, because what I said earlier was a lot of words Like what's your book about? And I end up with this big long story and these big long words and all these things and I want to get it down to like a couple of sentences, which is very hard. There's 52,000 words in the book, so the fact that I can get it down this far, however, and one of my struggles is that I think that I there's a big portion of me that loves to have fun, that loves to be playful and joyful, and I think that that is one of the things that people have told me they like about the book is that I take a lighthearted approach to, and kind of a playful approach to, a very tough topic. You know the very fact that I put for yourself from the crap in your head. I was really trying to get myself off the. I didn't want people to think I was taking it too seriously, so I didn't want to be like peruse or emotions right, and I also said that this is a guide for people who were told quit crying or I'll give you something to cry about. So I I'm I want my speeches to be also in that playful way and sometimes I think I come across as super researchy. My editor said feels like two people wrote this book editor or researcher Angela and storyteller Angela and we just got to pull those two together. And so that's what I want to do in how I speak to people.
Speaker 3:What I would say probably the the reason why people should give it a chance. Number one if your life is going the way you want it to go and everything is working out for you, don't bother. If you are never, you don't feel like anybody can ever push your buttons on your remote control of your emotions. You don't need this book. If you are probably your yoga teacher or a therapist who are, I say, the two types of people that explain emotions, you may not read this book, although one of my endorsements is from a therapist who said therapist should read it, because I help people break it down in a more introductory way. So I think people should give it a try because most of us could be 1% better. Most of us get activated.
Speaker 3:You know, I started this journey because I was angry all the time and my therapist said, oh yeah, you have unresolved grief. And I'm like, no, I don't, that's just dumb. I've been the therapy, I've been the therapy. I don't need, I don't have unresolved grief, I've already been the therapy. Funny, I was talking to my therapist and she's the one that was telling me this and I was still telling her for two years that she was dumb and if that wasn't my problem.
Speaker 3:So I think most of us, especially after the pandemic, there's just some unresolved emotions that we have. We got some feelings that we got some feelings about. So that's why I think people should give it a chance. It's also not that large. I was just visiting with one of my buddies from high school who just retired from the military. Thanks for dinner, randy, and he goes. When his came in the mail he was like oh, that feels doable, like the size of it doesn't feel like a textbook, you know, it feels like it's a very manageable size. So that's why I think people should give it a chance and you should also read it, because Josh said his mom wrote it. I'm not a therapist, I'm not a meditation teacher. I'm a business person at heart and so I think that this emotional stuff that we don't want to deal with is affecting our businesses and so for that reason, like if you have any efficiency brain in your at all, then you want to read this book because it'll make you more efficient.
Speaker 2:I will say one thing Go ahead.
Speaker 2:One thing no, mom, I wouldn't necessarily encourage those who are in those states to not read that book, because one of my favorite sayings I heard it from Denzel Washington. Other people have said that I'm sure. But this too shall pass. You know, I'm not saying that everyone's going to reach a point where they might need this book, but this too shall pass. You know, you might reach a time where things do catch up to you or something does happen, even in the moment, rather than it being from your childhood in the moment. I'm sure that this could help you with. Like I said, I haven't read the book yet, but for everything you just said, you said it's a lot about trauma from your past. I'm sure trauma that happens right now It'll be your past next year. You know your past tomorrow. So I don't want to take away from what you said, because you know your book probably better than anything else, but I will say I was bringing the sarcasm by saying, like I don't, there's not a lot of people that one of those things don't apply to you.
Speaker 1:Well, but even if you do think that that applies to you, you probably know someone who does have their buttons pushed, who may not be doing great, and I think in this book like it's not about read this book so you can go give unsolicited advice to all people around you who have crappy lives no, no, no, you can have some tools to better interact with and to better sort of sometimes separate what is somebody else's emotional baggage versus what's your emotional baggage, and that can be helpful. I also think, josh, to your point. I have really appreciated a lot of a lot of this learning and growth as a parent and that there are things that I want to help my children process better now so that they don't have to go through as much unpacking as adults, if I can, I mean I'm as a parent, I have already accepted like I'm going to screw my kids up in some way. That's going to happen. I'm okay with that. And if there are some things that I can prevent or mitigate or tools that I can give them now, that if I can teach my four year old about emotional regulation and he gets to practice for the next you know oh gosh, 12 years while he's in my house, the 14 years while he's in my house then goes out to the world. I don't know why that just doesn't feel like that long of a amount of time, feels like it should be longer than he's with me.
Speaker 1:But anyway, practice for the next 10 or so years. He's going to do a whole lot better than those of us who are getting these tools now and having to like sort of practice in the real world. We don't get a practice level at this. Whereas you start at younger. There's more safety net for you. Angela, you also mentioned that you think that this would be good for people who are efficient and want wanted to get more efficient in business, and I wanted to just take a moment and share a story about Josh that's in the book, which is about being efficient. Josh, you know that. You know that you're talking about in the book clearly not give him credit yes, I read it.
Speaker 2:I read that part.
Speaker 1:Oh, you read the story. I made him Okay. So for those of you who may not know, the story is about when sometimes we form beliefs for our parents brains efficiency. So I'm just going to paraphrase as I read along with this says, for instance if you're constantly told, quit asking for things your parents don't have to think about if they have the capacity to do whatever you want them to do.
Speaker 1:My son, josh, got a degree in supply chain management, which he chose because he had been practicing it on me for many years. He figured out early on that his busy, workaholic mom would say no to any activities in his social life if she had to work out the logistics. If he could work out all the details in advance and all he needed was a driver, she would say yes. Around 14, angela would get a request like this Mom, can I go to the movies? She would hesitate. He would follow it up with. I'll go home with Tray after school. His mom will pick up the girls and take us to the movies. After the movies, can you take everyone home? The movie should be over by 9.30. My only reason for saying no would involve admitting I was too lazy to get out at 9.30 at night. He made it really hard to say no to such an easy request.
Speaker 1:I just want to find it a very humorous story because I, as the oldest child, had to go through the trial by fire, didn't have as much learning that Josh was able to get through, and so he got a lot more yeses to his social life activities than I did. So I'm just going to acknowledge you're welcome for that. You're welcome for going first and you know not having the ingenuity that you had to watch someone else and learn. And two, just any comments on or thoughts about how this has impacted your life still today. Just you and the supply chain world and the solving logistics and I don't know. Mostly I just wanted to rub it in your face that I went first. That's really all this was. You don't have to have any comments on it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it sounds like. It sounds like Angela told a story in the book about me figuring out a way to get yeses and then you just turned it from that to the only reason you got yeses is because she told me no and so she had to say. She learned to say yes more, or something like that.
Speaker 3:So I kind of stopped listening whenever you started talking about yourself.
Speaker 2:I wasn't paying attention anymore. So what was your question? Again? No, I was kidding.
Speaker 2:It's funny something that I've been doing lately at work which is going to bore people to talk about, but it's just funny to talk about. It is I've been working with the capacity team in the temperature control and units for intermodal and at times people will send requests hey, can we do Los Angeles to Chicago? But then it's going to do two stops in Chicago. It's going to go to Roanoke, minnesota, then it's going to go all the way up to St Paul, minnesota. Can we do that? Well, boom, boom, boom. Let's look at what's the difference between the stops. Can we figure out? Is this fast enough? How fast is it going? What price can we give them? Is the price good enough compared to the truck rates? And then, of course, I'm going to end up saying no to that person, because Roanoke is 300 miles from St Paul and we have a ramp in St Paul, so why would we ever do that? So my point being is I'm literally doing like mapping and things like that, like right now in the job.
Speaker 2:Now, that's not all of what I do at JV Hut, but it's a big part of it. So it's kind of funny, but I think in terms of the impact it's had on my life, you know it's probably been hard at times, actually, because I remember driving around with my freshman roommate, will, when we were. We've been really good friends for a long time but I remember riding around with him and he's lived in Fayetteville since about third grade and I've lived in Fayetteville since before that, but we both started driving and learning to drive at the same time and everything. And man, oh man, will, if you ever happen to listen to this, I love you, dude. You just come here and congratulations, but also you still don't know the most efficient way to get from X place to X place around town.
Speaker 2:And it really pisses me off. And it's things like that where, like it got to a point, like I had to get I wouldn't mean to, it was just, it was subconscious body language Will could tell whenever he didn't take the right direction because like I would turn or I would tense up or whatever, I wouldn't even realize I was doing. I have like a tell of when he I was upset with him for taking the wrong direction. So that's a small thing, but it's things like that where, overall, I think it is good, but I think very logically about things. I think very efficiently about things. My dream job in the future would be to be a business consultant to help make people more efficient and so they can make more money and things like that. So it has had a pretty big impact in my life, jokes aside for good things and for bad things.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's not really that bad of a thing, but yeah.
Speaker 2:It can be a bad thing when you're in an argument with your wife and over you're talking about well, that was silly, because that wasn't very logical of you. Why would you not do it this way? It would have been way faster or better, or things like that. Now, I haven't ever said that I have. I really have. That sounds bad, but my point being is like that's how my brain would be thinking. It would be thinking very logically of like well, that doesn't make any sense. Why would you ever do it like that? Yeah, and therein lies the reason why it can be a problem because there are other ways to do things. I do think I do a good job of being creative and seeing other paths, but I'm just pointing out a way that it can hurt someone.
Speaker 1:I don't know if people realize this, if you are a long time listener of the podcast, but really what's standing out for me right now is just how similar Josh and Angela are Like in so many ways. Like there's just like this isn't the. It was like four or five things in this podcast that, like Josh has said or Angela has said, to be like wow. I feel like the other person could also say that exact thing. And anyway, it's just. You know, there's a lot of people people who've been listening to more recent episodes feel like Angela and I are very similar. We are, yes, however, of her children, her mini knee is Josh, so I just-.
Speaker 2:I for one have no idea what you're talking about. I'm just-.
Speaker 3:That's sarcasm. Here we go again. Well, that's what's so funny is like when I talk about my kids, I'll be like no, like the one that is the most similar is Josh, and people look at me and like, no, no, no, we hear you on the podcast with Sammy and you guys have similar interests, you have some, and blah, blah, blah, and I'm like I know it's so hard to explain to you Like Sammy is one of and I joke that I would read the acknowledgements, but it's a weird-.
Speaker 1:No, read them. Let's go for it. This is a good transition. Oh good, little segue, yeah give us a little sneak peek at some of the acknowledgements.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, I'll start with the sweet one, which is to Lexi. Actually, I think the girls are sweet.
Speaker 1:Like way to just tee it up, you know, really setting it up for success.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna read it, because Josh will never read this if I don't read it to him.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's not true. You'll sit him down at your kitchen table and say read this. Let me watch you read it.
Speaker 3:That's how he knew about the story.
Speaker 1:That's also what she did to me a few days ago, with the acknowledgements. By the way, was read this. I wanna watch you read it so.
Speaker 3:Lexi, thank you for persevering in your healing journey, allowing us to build a beautiful relationship that gives me hope for restoration in this world. You exemplify unwavering friendship, and witnessing your transformation into who you were meant to be brings me immense joy daily. Josh, when you agreed to be my initial podcast host or perhaps I finally agreed to be your co-host it meant the world to me. Your practical approach to my work gives me great pleasure, and even your unwillingness to read my first book, since it was just how you were raised, is a glowing compliment. Whether intentional or not, I eagerly look forward to witnessing the growth of your relationship with Abby. I'm sorry, but I'm like I'm telling everybody that I'm like.
Speaker 3:He said that he didn't read my first book and he doesn't realize it was actually a compliment. I took it as a compliment because he's like I don't need to read this, this is how we're raised, which just I think, maybe because I was raised in the 80s where there were so many people that were one way on television and then they were a different way in their private lives, like it's a really, it's a really huge compliment to me that you are like. This is just how I was raised, sammy. Who would have thought it possible to give birth to one of my closest friends? Your unwavering belief in me and this work is truly inspiring. Your attention to detail, willingness to engage in difficult conversations and playful spirit are gifts to me and the business we are building together. And I won't read very, since you guys said that it was inappropriate.
Speaker 1:I think you should read it because because he listens to the podcast number one and it's not that inappropriate. I just was teasing you, it's fine.
Speaker 3:Go for it. No, I think people should have to read the book.
Speaker 1:Oh, OK, it's a teaser. You guys want to go see the potentially inappropriate but maybe not an appropriate acknowledgement to her husband in the back of the book.
Speaker 2:You've got to go buy it. That's good Teaser right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, buy the book for nothing else than to see what she says in the last two sentences.
Speaker 2:Sales, sales just went through the roof.
Speaker 1:We'll be looking at this tonight and be like, wow, there was a big uptick in the book sales, right, having the podcast came out. What happened there?
Speaker 3:Oh, my word.
Speaker 1:Well, I do feel like speaking of that and just this episode has gone on for a little while now. I feel like we could probably chat about nothing if we wanted to for another hour. But Angela, no, I'm not saying we haven't, you gave me a face. I'm not saying we chatted about nothing. I'm saying if we wanted to, we could go on talking about. When I say like talking about nothing, it just means like general things, I don't know. Whatever, I'm landing the plane. Ok, let me land the plane.
Speaker 3:I'm happy for you to land the plane.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, she also doesn't like me using the phrase landing the plane. Every single episode, josh.
Speaker 3:Every episode. For goodness sakes. What episode number is this one?
Speaker 1:83. Oh my gosh 83.
Speaker 3:I just OK before we land the plane.
Speaker 1:Before we land the plane.
Speaker 3:I would like to say that this podcast is a testament to perseverance, because Josh and I started this in November of 21, thinking that we were about eight months, maybe a year, away from publishing the book, and here we are in August of 23. 83 episodes later and I swear, after like episode 10, I was like, ok, I don't know what I'm going to talk about now.
Speaker 1:So the fact that we have 83 episodes, we, and we're mapped out to about 100 right now.
Speaker 3:I think so. I think we've mapped out to 100.
Speaker 2:So there was definitely a few episodes where I would end it with the on the lookout for more information about Angela's book being published in August. And then August rolled around. I said it got delayed to October, and then she told me to stop mentioning it because she didn't know what was coming out. She didn't want to keep talking about it, and then I left the company.
Speaker 3:No, it was super hard. It has been a very long process and also we got a question the other night that I thought was really good about. You know what has been the difference between if it would have published last October versus this August? And really it's been about experimentation and, like I, I could have published it last October knowing that the stuff worked for me, and a year later I now know that it works for other people as well, and just honing that in, and so I hope that people do.
Speaker 3:In all seriousness, I think the book is a very fun approach to a hard subject. I have been accused of having a weird definition of fun, so be aware of that. And also it is it really is designed to help you, you know, get started on your journey. That's not to say that there won't be deeper things that you need. This is why we're already developing a course to kind of go deeper into the seven core beliefs. We have a whole coaching program. We're looking at launching some offerings for family owned business after the first of the year. So Really, really take the opportunity to learn this. Oh, we'll also later later in a September, we should have the audible version of this. So for those of you that are like I, don't actually sit and read anything, but you know they listen all the time. There will be an audible version of this.
Speaker 1:I also, angela, I know you say that this takes a long time. I've heard from a lot of people who've written books that like two years it's like not really that long in the bookwriting world, like there's a lot of people who are like, yeah, this book took me seven years and five years and I've been working on it for a whole long time. It might be long to you and there's other people that it's actually short, and then there's other people that two years is an eternity.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I think that I didn't spend two years on my first book, which I didn't love my first book, so that's. I guess that doesn't count, Unless you listen to Josh. He says that I threw away my first book and then there's a manuscript floating around on the planet that is incomplete, but I think that it's probably mid-range. I think when you hear somebody say they worked on it for five years or seven years, it is unlikely that is beyond their first book. So you know what I mean. Like people that are new authors, yeah for sure taking I'm helping a couple of new authors that it's probably taken them that long.
Speaker 3:But really a lot of.
Speaker 1:I know, josh, you would be so surprised, I think, since she has vowed not to take on any more authors to two more, two more authors that have come on, she has been helping them through the process. Yeah, yeah, we'll add to her business card and author coach.
Speaker 3:No, no no, no, no it already says author coach.
Speaker 1:Oh, author comma coach, comma speaker.
Speaker 2:Come on, author coach. No comma, but author coach, that's right.
Speaker 3:I think that I really help people that know what they want and don't really are stuck and can't get what they want. That's the bottom line is that, whether that is I own my own business or I'm taking over my business for my parents and I don't have the confidence that I need to do sales and to do all the process, everything that I need to do to be successful in business I may be doing it, but I don't feel confident doing it. I want to write a book. I want to lose weight. I want to walk around without pain in my leg. If you know what you want, I can help you, but if you are the kind of person that is like I don't really set goals, I don't really know what I want, I, my life is fine and I'm OK with that, but I don't know that this will that I can help you or this can help you.
Speaker 1:Angela, you've been like working for a couple of weeks now to boil it down to like a sentence or two, and I think you just did it and I'm really got her recording this. I help people who know what they want and are stuck and can't get there. Ooh, maybe a little sound effect there or something I don't know. That feels like it was as as a person who is fielded several phone calls of I don't know how to talk about this and I don't know what I'm doing. And I'm like you do know what you're doing, you're OK, you do know how to talk about this. Just talk about it, you get it. Anyway, I don't know I know how to write about it.
Speaker 3:I've been writing about it for two years Now. I have to turn around and talk about it, and so that's what I'm saying is that the words have come harder because I've been using all. Do you have any syllables? I know there are 52,000 words. I would love to count the syllables because when I'm trying to read this for audible, I'm just saying there are, there are sentences in here that are unreadable. I have to chew, I have to talk like this.
Speaker 3:Anyway, the struggle is real. This is, this is real life problems for the author. Speaking of real life problems, my favorite thing happened. I was sitting in an airport and I was working and somebody goes oh, you must be really passionate. They start chatting with me and they you must be really love your job. And I was like no, what I really love is my new book. I gave her the book and she starts asking questions and she wanted a selfie with a real life author and I gave her. I was like, of course, you should have a selfie with a real life author. And that happened twice, twice that's so cool.
Speaker 3:Anyway, nerd alert right now.
Speaker 1:That reminds me of the one and only time I've ever been asked for an autograph. That was back when I was the tambourine player in the basketball band and I signed an autograph. Was it to a four year old little girl?
Speaker 2:Yes but it counts.
Speaker 1:Okay, she wanted my autograph and I gave it to her David, you were all right.
Speaker 3:To wrap this up, here's the bottom line. If you have not already ordered the book, order the book, and if you're like, wait, I want an autographed copy of the book, then order the book and then go on to my website and fill out the form and I will mail you a book plate, which is this cool tool that will let you.
Speaker 1:It's like a sticker.
Speaker 3:It's a sticker that and I will autograph the book and put it inside and you can put it inside your book so that you can still order the book and get it and have the autograph.
Speaker 1:And I don't have this. If you're listening live, you should do it today. If you're thinking about doing it, don't wait till the end of the week, Do it today. That helps. We bundling as many orders sort of helps with that kind of like launch kickoff steam. You know, like it's like top drill dragster, the roller coaster at Cedar Point needs to have enough momentum at the beginning to get it up all the way over the hill and if it doesn't have enough momentum then it's going to have to slide back down in the terrifying backwards trip down top drill dragster and then we re crank it up and launch it again. Ok, so buy it today so we don't have to launch it again.
Speaker 3:Thanks everybody. Josh, do you have anything you want to leave? Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2:Of course, if you guys want to find me, I'm on Instagram Josh underscore Belford, I think, if you want to. It's just I don't I don't really post that often, but if you want to follow me, you can look out in the future for if I ever started a business like my mom did, since we're similar.
Speaker 1:I like it. Can we find you on the Venmos? Is that a place people can find you? I heard somebody say that the other day they're like you can find me on Venmo. I was like, well, ok, that's an interesting. Yeah, I have a.
Speaker 2:PayPal, cash out and any of those that you need. I accept checks. I accept cash through mail. You can. You can send me any of those if you want.
Speaker 1:So a great place to find for somebody to find you is in your bank account giving money to your response.
Speaker 2:You'll hear back really fast if you, if that's how you, if you want to reach me, find me on one of those.
Speaker 1:I love it. Thanks everybody so much for joining us today and super excited for this fall of podcasting where we're going to be processing through and talking through some of the different pieces and content within Traveling Light. You'll get to kind of do some deep dives throughout all of that that's going on, but thanks so much for being here with us. Whether you've been listening since episode one or this is your first episode, we're so glad you're here and we hope you guys go be freaking awesome.
