#61 The 5th Wave-Pt 2-Merchants of Light | Guest: Betty J. Kovacs, PhD

Esteemed consciousness researcher Betty J. Kovacs, PhD, returns for the final part of our extended conversation about her incredible book Merchants of Light, the Consciousness That is Changing the World.
We conclude our discussion about the 5th Wave of Awakening, of Remembering, we are all a part of at this time on our planet.
Betty talks about how we each have a gift, and are here to share that gift, whatever it is. That gift is your medicine for the Earth.
Love one another. Be kind to each other.
We are powerful co-creators with the cosmic consciousness of the Universe.
Learn why Betty believes we WILL succeed.
Learn what your purpose is.
Betty describes a simple but powerful meditation each of us can do twice daily to help anchor the Light here.

RESOURCES:
Betty's Website

Transcript

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Julia Marie (00:03):
Welcome to Evolving Humans. I'm your host, Julia Marie, and this podcast is for visionary people like you who are exploring the true nature of reality and want to contribute to the global awakening. You seek to deepen the connection to your multidimensional self so that you can live a more conscious life. Well,
and the other thing that gives me hope personally is the number of babies. I call them humanity 2.0 with now actually being born in physical bodies, but they have a certain knowingness in their eyes,
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (00:42):
And I don't remember the woman's name who wrote the, that we come in different way in various waves. That, and I had that experience also in the visions that we do come in waves, that certainly we know that our wave is, we're trying to deal with the harm that has been caused by the horrible false narrative and trying to bring into consciousness the true narrative of who we really are. Han my husband
had the vision that those who will come after, they're going to know that already. Yeah, they know that already.
Julia Marie (01:20):
Yeah. Some of them are being born
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (01:22):
Now. Yes. Yeah, and I think so. And is it Mary Rodwell? I believe that's her name, who wor has worked for quite a long time with children who she says are born, are these children? And many of them know they are now. Some don't. But that she said they're just so telepathic and the parents say, yeah, it is difficult to be a parent when they're so telepathic and they seem to be concerned about the earth.
Some of them seem to know that they have come for that reason. And certainly one of the first visions, the first vision I had after PhD my son's death was this spiral, I think I mentioned that last time, with beings being born all over the planet and they were of much higher frequency and came out of their own choice for love, love of this planet and of what this horrible, horrible illness we have.
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And they were chanting our brothers and sisters on the earth are dreaming a terrible dream. And we have, are waking up from that terrible dream that when we are divine creators immortal. But we have been so dumbed down. Those who didn't know and therefore wanted to control us in the world have lied to us and constructed power centers where they could pretty much determine what we could do
and what we believed about ourselves. That's not dead yet. They are really working on that to put chips in our brain to determine what we think, how we think, and if we even know what we're feeling, if we don't actually activate it in the outer world, it is, they have now the technology to do that in the most pervasive way that they've ever had. So we still have that and we're going to confront that darkness, but
we have to integrate and be aware of this new consciousness, this power, this energy, this light, these imaginal selves that are here on the earth. And I think we have to know the darkness. We must be, as Jung said, you do not become, we do not become enlightened by imagining figures of light. That's true.
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But making the darkness conscious to break that into light, that's a big job. But we have to remember that light in those imaginal cells and who we are tend to our creative ability to be sure it doesn't explode and fear or anger or despair or depression. Those are all things that confronting that can c can happen
and that we, by tending to this energy, we have to keep the balance, know the dark, but try to make it conscious and also know we have a universe working with us to become conscious now.
Julia Marie (04:15):
Well, I just say if it was our collective intent to experience limitation that we've done a fine job.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (04:26):
Oh, have we ever have we ever? Oh, I know. And you see that so many children and people have to suffer. The suffering is so horrendous. Never in any universe should we forget that if we don't tend to this sacred energy, we can become death, the destroyer of worlds. Or we can be the divine creative beings creating loving worlds that we can't even imagine today and worlds in which we would want to have our children grow up in.
Julia Marie (05:01):
We talked earlier about all the mass shootings and the way things are controlled, and I've always wondered why some people do the things they do. And you touched on the concept of a vacuum within the psyche of some individuals that creates an inner instability. And it has a name, but I can't pronounce it. It's what motivates people to PA be in power and control. It's again, that's Exter external seeking to
fill that void inside of them. It's like a disease of the heart.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (05:37):
Alexia was yes
Julia Marie (05:39):
Word.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (05:41):
They say that there's a small percentage of us who have that. I think it's has become much greater.
Julia Marie (05:46):
I do too.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (05:47):
Years ago I met de Man through the Jung Society. I was director of the Jung Society here in Claremont at that time, and he was at a university near here. And what we have discovered is that there are the harm. There are those people in whom the hormones he called it, the hormones of the heart cannot reach the brain. We know that the heart is a fifth brain component, but this information, let's call it that
from the heart, can't get. They just simply cannot reach the brain. It's cut off severed. And I think that that's certainly possible because we now know that the heart is a fifth brain component and we've just negated that who get. And we've also negated the right brain, which has strong connections with the heart and with feeling, the Egyptians knew if we can't feel civilization cannot unfold. And that's what we
see in our time, that pathological explosion of violence rather than the tending and channeling of this potentially beautiful energy.
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So in Alexia, the heart is actually physically severed in the sense that it's cut off any communication with a heart. We haven't known that the heart is the center of our consciousness and the fifth brain component, we feel it. We always point to our heart with feeling. If we know that we have in touch with that feeling. If we've been loved and brought up with love, but those who haven't and who really are out
just to control and have no sense of what that means, then it could, well, that's what this doctor was saying. We have found that this feeling cannot reach their hearts. And then he mentioned some public figures in kind of joking ways, said, just take a look Betty, and you can see can't, they're not in touch with any feeling whatsoever. And I thought when he told me, I perhaps medically we don't know how to
help those people, but I think spiritually that can be mended and people that, I don't want to think that once the heart is severed that it can never be connected.
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I know are always, we simply have to know it and let it happen, that it can be healed. But I think it might be difficult given the situation. But yes, I think we can look around and see people do things that can't, we can't even imagine how in the world could they be planning this for the whole globe, for the whole planet and not care for the children, for the people, anything or want to control their lives in every way
or the things that just individuals do that you can't even imagine. How could they do that and how could they do that to a child? Well, I think they can do it because the feeling, love the energies that are in the heart that can open us to vast worlds of love is separate. And we probably could call it by something other than Alexa family.
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I think it's a huge illness on the planet now because the Western world decided against our ancestors that there's no such thing as that. And the French Enlightenment, it was everything that's come before is nonsense. Only the rational now is important. And science was censored by the church, so it could only
study matter the left brain. And that's still today. That still is part of the old narrative that is killing us.
The real renaissance, the real enlightenment happened in 1600 in which those scientists and mystics wanted to bring about enlightenment of an intellectual level as well as a spiritual level that they knew that both were important and they wanted to enlighten the whole world. It was a very different, but that was destroyed by the church. And then this half kind of enlightenment, not an enlightenment at all.
It was the rise of the left brain and everything is fine, but they did separate some from the church and talk about we have to have freedom.
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And that was one of the great gifts of the enlightenment. We want that, but we want our whole self to enjoy that freedom, not just the left brain. Yes, we've a lot to become conscious of and overcome, but we have to know who we are. And our ancestors knew that for thousands of years. And then those whodidn't know and wanted power suppressed it and then made fun of it, had no concept of it, didn't know
what they were doing, just they wanted control, but they have no idea of the power of the individual.
Some may and then want to block it, but simply, at least on one level, they just wanted power for themselves, which is an illness in and of itself, of not knowing who they are.
Julia Marie (10:35):
You've said our culture is in need of soul.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (10:39):
Oh, yes.
Julia Marie (10:40):
And you followed that with an observation that you see this new consciousness developing. So how can I, as an individual listening to you talk right now on this podcast, how can I support that process? What can I do?
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (10:58):
That's a question we all ask. And I think you, I long for soul to be active, for the heart, to be open and functioning with the rest of who we are and opening us to the universe. And I think the more we desire that, the more we work for that, the more we give up that knowledge if we have it and when we have it and try to embody it in ourselves, that that's what we have to do. And we are trying to do it. But the
thing that I always remember is the old idea of American having success, being better than or the great American not, it's not like that. Each of us has a particular gift or as the native people say, a medicine.
And we give that by allowing it to live in ourselves and be given then to others. And that won't do much without everybody else because everybody has that medicine.
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And we want everybody to develop that medicine, that unique, beautiful, loving gift that only that person can give. And so it takes all of us, and that's why we want everybody to know, everybody to develop. And there could never be jealousy, never be jealousy or egotism because it would negate the reality of the picture that we have. And so I think we just do the best we can to create our medicine. And
that medicine, once created, goes out into the world and we find our ways like you are doing what you're doing and doing what I'm doing. And everybody, even those who were never heard of, who are loving, I saw a wonderful film just the other day on the spellers about autistic children who are revealing how incredibly intelligent they are. Oh, yes. Spelling the words out that not that autism is not a cognitive
problem, but a motor problem. I just think they're giving us gifts too, but in so many ways. But I looked at the parents and I thought many of those parents will never be known, but they have dedicated their lives to helping one individual and then perhaps others to be able to be express himself or herself. The majority of the creativity is probably unknown to us, but I think it's not unknown to spirit. Just loving is
the most creative thing we can do.
Julia Marie (13:33):
Well, and that's what I encourage people to do when they ask me, well, what's my mission or my purpose? Well, that's not necessarily for me to tell you because you're going to express that in your own way. And all you have to do is whatever the desire is that you have in your heart, follow that. And it doesn't have to be a world changing earth shattering contribution. It can be as simple as being kind to the Oh, exactly. Person next to you
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (14:10):
That creates an energy field.
Julia Marie (14:11):
Yes, it does.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (14:12):
Kindness. Yeah. Yeah, it's so true. I used to, when I taught at the Pasadena City College, there were students who weren't prepared to take the transfer courses. And so in working with those students in writing, it was really interesting because those students would often come to me and demean themselves, devalue themselves, I can't do this. I'm no good at this. This is not my thing. I just don't
know how. And I said, who told you that? Where'd you get that information? Oh, well, the teacher told her. Someone told because they hadn't done. And I said, look, this is writing is a skill. If I went in to learn welding, I wouldn't know it when I went in, but I have to believe I could learn it. So you just have the belief that you can learn how to write and you will. And it was so much fun to see those students discover who they were.
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Oh my God, I can write. It was just this wonderful thing that they realized they weren't that way that they described themselves at all. And I think that that's what we're waking up to in a planetary way, a universal way. No, we're not nothing. We are powerful creators who are here as a quantum physicist tell
us we are manifestations of the big bang and co-creators with it. This is our responsibility to the universe, not to dilly deli around thinking we're, no, but I understand why we did because we're totally, but no, you have a responsibility to co-create with the cosmic consciousness of the universe. We're depending on you. They're saying, wake up, we need you.
Julia Marie (15:59):
They really are waiting on us. That's
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (16:02):
True. The solar system needs us. The galaxy needs us, the universe. That's correct. And we co-create. So it is true that if someone wants to put a chip in my brain to control me, and there are many of them and then others don't know that, and kind of going along with it, what do we do? We need co-creators. We
can't work alone. If we know something, we want to let others know it. I think of the TI thirties and with Hitler, it was hard for people to wake up to what was really happening because they were controlled by the media radio. But look what is available today to large corporations who do in fact own the media
except for those wonderful people who are forming their own media that can't be touched. And so of course, people believe what they hear 24 7. But the plan, the behind that, we always need to look, as I used to teach my students, whatever source you use for your term paper, go to what is the agenda of
the money in that producing for that source? Who published the book? Who is saying it? Who do they work for? So if we look to the corporations we know and we need to be aware, but we don't want to be aware of the darkness, but we must be in order to allow the light to be here on the planet globally.
Julia Marie (17:32):
Well, it's important that we use discernment. Where am I going to put my attention? Because I'm lending energy to that and what do I want to be a part of? So it really comes down to our individual choice. Very powerful. That's what you've said this whole conversation is we yeah. Don't know how powerful a creator we are individually and collectively.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (17:59):
That's right. Yeah. We don't know that. And when we get a glimpse of it with the Kogi saying, you by the way, you're thinking and your refusal to know you're dumbing down the planet, and that means that the scaffolding isn't being built to hold this high intelligence that has to be dreadful for them to see what
younger brother is doing. And that's why they decided to let people know they were up there and came out through one person. And then I think maybe 10 years later, that same person, they called back and said, it's not happening. They're not hearing us. Let's try one more time. And we must hear, we must say Jesus used to say for those who have ears to hear. That's
Julia Marie (18:46):
Right. Yes. The eyes to see. That's right.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (18:50):
And it's even more important now that we have those ears and eyes because the power structure over these centuries of the narrative that is false have developed great power. They need the healing of the light as we do. We must know what's going on in our planet. And the Kogi did. So want us to know. And there are so many others too, so many other groups of Native people who really want us to know who
we are.
Julia Marie (19:24):
You might have alluded to this, but I want you to, if you could, as a lovely way to wrap up the show, let's bring some hope in here. Yes, yes. And one of the most beautiful stories in your book was about the vision that PT showed you almost a year after his death, the vision of the disc of light and love. Can you share that more completely, that story?
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (19:48):
Yes. Actually, it was before PhD's death. I had gone to South America to work with shamans, and I didn't feel that it had great effect on me, but I think it did. But at any rate, I and two other women had a ceremony for the healing of our children and the healing of children on the planet. And we had all known each other for a long time. We were part of the young society. We had talked with each other
every day about what we're reading, what we're discovering, what we experienced, what our dreams were. We walked on the trail every morning and we'd tell our dreams to each other, and we did the ceremony together and oh, of all the visions, this one was so powerful. I was still in doubt at that time because it not until after the deaths and I really open up to knowing that who we are and there's no death.
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But I didn't at that time, and I always said to myself, there's no way I could have made that up. This was something so beyond me. So we were in a circle meditating, and there was a huge light disc that silently came in through the glass doors and hovered over my head. And I knew that this consciousness was so vast and cosmic and beautiful, but it was too much for me to hold. I mean, it was so powerful and vast.
And then there was a figure, a female figure that swirled out of the bottom of the disc and into the crown chakra and down into my heart. And I saw that she had white satin and she had a white satin square hat. So that made the Mandela, the round disc and the square hat, because language from the other side is symbolic for sure.
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And she then began to sing in me, and that's in my book, merchants of Light. And she said, you have called us and we are here. Your planet has called us and we are here. Then it was just like information. I knew that she didn't have to sing, and I knew that there was the light that had been around the planet for a long time waiting, waiting until we so long for it that we became the anchors. And it was
interesting because at that moment it was like, now we're connecting. And the other two also, although they didn't see what I was seeing, somehow they felt this energy or something to do. And we all felt this energy just flow through us into the planet. And I knew that we would make it, that there had been such
longing for love and peace that we had brought this light to the planet and had been hovering around the planet for a long time.
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Now, in the fifth wave now, we have connected that. And every person who awakens is becoming an anchor of that light energy into our planet. And I think they're all over the world, and it needs every one of us who awakens to it. But this light I realize is consciousness, higher consciousness, higher frequency,
because it's love and light. And it was just flowing through our planet. And I realized it will be easier for us to create this world now in this, I didn't think in the fifth wave term than that time, but I knew when I was writing the book, that's what she meant. It will happen. And it's interesting because when I was doing the research for my book, I found that other people had had experiences like that. And in India, in
the Sheria Ardo Ashram, that the mystics there said that it was experienced that coming of that energy and anchoring into the earth was in the fifties.
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So that's kind of interesting. I think time is not so much an issue. It's that in our time now, there's only now in the universe that this light in people are experiencing it. And then there was another mystic who was in, I believe Bulgaria and do, David Lormer has written about him, and that he said too, that this is
the time for that energy that is connecting to the planet. And he had characteristics like Jesus as a mystic and could be in two places that one, there've been several who've had this same experience. So I have to try to remember this. If I look at what's going on that's dark, I have to allow myself to remember, this is the light. It is here. We are anchoring it all around the planet. It will happen because we will choose to make it happen. We are choosing, have chosen to make it happen.
Julia Marie (24:44):
And thank you for sharing that because I just want to use that as a reminder that where we focus our attention, that's where the energy goes. So
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (24:55):
Yeah, that's
Julia Marie (24:55):
True. Put your attention on what you want more of.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (24:59):
Exactly
Julia Marie (25:00):
Not, that's right. Yeah.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (25:01):
Tend to that energy.
Julia Marie (25:03):
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (25:05):
That vision is a great gift, I think, for all of us because it always, if I go back to that, and thank you for going back to it. Yeah. Then I know, yes, we will make it. We will. Because we have been working on this for centuries. Yeah, they are here.
Julia Marie (25:22):
Yes, they, yes, they are. They are. And it's, again, both sides of the veil kind of a project here. We have to ground that here through our physical bodies. They're sending the signal. We are channeling that into the planet.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (25:39):
Yes. And I think that's a very powerful meditation too, is there's this net of light all around the world and above each one of us is one of the nodal points. We can just, and all of the energy around the world can come through that nodal point into the crown chakra, through the body and healing it. And as where
body becomes in an anchor and allowing that energy to go into the earth. And that's a meditation I do twice a day to just to remember.
Julia Marie (26:11):
Well, sometimes I've been sent to places and I very much felt like I'm a planetary acupuncture needle. I'll go somewhere and I'll stand, and then the energy just comes flowing through me, and it's just giving the planet acupuncture.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (26:26):
Yeah, that's beautiful. And I think that's true. And I think people go to sacred places. Exactly. Because they've become a real center for that needle to activate.
Julia Marie (26:36):
Yes, exactly.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (26:38):
Yes. We just have to remember, yes, we can do these powerful things. We can.
Julia Marie (26:44):
And none of us does it alone. So we need each other.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (26:47):
Oh, absolutely. Because we are one, actually. Yes,
Julia Marie (26:54):
We've come to the end of our time. But before we close, can you tell people how they can find your book or connect with you?
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (27:02): Well, the books are sold at any places where books are sold and eBooks as well. Or they can be ordered
from the com lae center, K A M L A K. And if you sign up for a newsletter, you'll receive a chapter of Merchants of Light. I especially wanted people to get the chapter on the high Middle Ages. That's the one, because it really is that first awakening, great awakening of who we really are. And you can go to the website though. I have articles and videos, many from the first book of the Miracle of Death. There
is nothing but consciousness Life. And I have also webinars and different types of programs on that website.
Julia Marie (27:49):
I'm going to say it again, it belongs in everybody's library. Anybody who is curious about the arc of our history as far as our consciousness and our awakening as a collective, this, it's an invaluable resource.
And I can just by the meticulous notes, this is a labor of love that took you years to produce did.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (28:14):
It
Julia Marie (28:15):
Did. And I've already read it twice, and every time I read it, I get more out of it. So I, I'm just going to continue to encourage people to go buy this book. You won't regret it.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (28:29):
Thank you. And when I read it, I am encouraged again by the things that I discovered and that were determined to be discovered that are in the book, because you can't remember all of it. And when I read it again, I'm, I am in inspired again.
Julia Marie (28:46):
And we can all use a little reminder from time to time of who we are and why we've come. And
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (28:52):
Probably most of the time
Julia Marie (28:53):
We can use does it a beautiful job. It really does.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (28:56):
God, I'm pleased.
Julia Marie (28:58):
Well, as always, I learned so much from you today, and I just want to thank you for spending so much time with us here on Evolving Humans.
Betty J. Kovacs, PhD (29:07):
Oh, it's been my honor, Julie, of course, I'm happy to do it.
Julia Marie (29:11):
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