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Secrets of Plymouth Rock - The Real Story

Noah Mulgrew Season 1 Episode 63

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What’s the real story and legacy of Plymouth Rock? 


Did the so-called “Pilgrims” REALLY step upon that particular rock that fateful Autumn of 1620? 


Why and how did Plymouth Rock become the defining “Founding of America" Myth?


My dog Noodles and I visit the rock in Plymouth Massachusetts to find out! 



Works Cited: 

https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv1wxsdq.7?searchText=plymouth+rock&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dplymouth%2Brock%26so%3Drel&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3A613af71a7850d2e61fbd659b9b9eb5f9&seq=6

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41779364?read-now=1&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

They Knew They Were Pilgrims, Plymouth Colony and the Contest for American Liberty by John G Turner 

https://www.history.com/articles/the-real-story-behind-plymouth-rock

https://www.studentsofhistory.com/comparing-jamestown-plymouth-colonies

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Plymouth-Rock-United-States-history

https://www.history.com/articles/william-bradford

https://www.history.com/articles/king-james-bible-most-popular

https://www.history.com/articles/mayflower-compact

https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/lawes-divine-morall-and-martiall/

https://www.neh.gov/blog/plymouth-colony-and-beginnings-liberty-america-qa-neh-public-scholar-john-turner

https://plimoth.org/for-students/homework-help/mayflower-and-mayflower-compact

https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/The%20Mayflower%20Compact.pdf

https://www.potawatomi.org/blog/2020/11/25/the-true-dark-history-of-thanksgiving/



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Introduction to Plymouth Rock

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Cruising down the street . I wonder where this road would lead so many possibilities . Care to share what you think . Oh Noondolls , what do you see ? Back road odyssey .

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A solitary rock digs into the Atlantic shoreline the number's 1620 , etched upon its weathered surface . More than one million make the pilgrimage to its quasi-sacred resting place in eastern Massachusetts . Why , what really is Plymouth Rock ? According to tradition , plymouth Rock is the first parcel of land stepped upon by those aboard the Mayflower . These daring immigrants seek religious freedom , boldly weather unknown horizons and quickly establish a semi-egalitarian system of governance , distilling in a way the essence of the American story into one simple narrative . This , at least , is what we tell ourselves . But what's the real story and the real legacy of Plymouth Rock and the real legacy of Plymouth Rock ? Did the so-called pilgrims really step upon that particular rock that fateful autumn of 1620 ? Why and how did Plymouth Rock become the defining founding of America ? Myth Jamestown , the first permanent English settlement , was established more than a decade before . Why Plymouth Rock ? We are in Plymouth , massachusetts , parked along the Atlantic . Before we go , have a look at the rock I've been hearing about and most people have been hearing about since first grade . Let's get on the same page , so it's easy to get overwhelmed with dates , with figures , with events that lead to the establishment of Plymouth Colony . I've read enough books researching this to know that . So we're going to focus instead on three simple , compact questions why really did pilgrims board the Mayflower , what did they actually do when they arrived and why do over a million people still make the pilgrimage to this small worn rock at the edge of the Atlantic ?

Why the Pilgrims Left England

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We start at the beginning with a small group of Anglican separatists , a bold idea and untested horizons to the West , the great hope and for the propagating advancing of the gospel of the kingdom of Christ in those remote parts of the world . William Bradford , separatist aboard the Mayflower , long-serving governor of Plymouth Colony and the authoritative contemporary source for us today , early 16th century England is a land of uniformity and it's especially unkind to religious . Thank you for watching itself . This is the world William Bradford is born into . Bradford is a religious Yorkshire farm boy who in time finds himself increasingly at odds with the rituals and the traditions of his home country . His opposing religious views push him towards a semi-secretive Puritan sect known as the Separatists . Really quick , puritans wanted to purify or change the Anglican English church and Separatists wanted to separate from the English church , but at their core , these Separatists seek to recreate a simpler , more pious way of life . Recreate a simpler , more pious way of life , a life that emulates the simplicity and the community of the earliest Christian communities . This sounds great but , not surprisingly , it was never going to happen in 16th century England , particularly after the ascension of King James to the English throne in 1603 , whose toleration for religious diversity is even less than his predecessor , queen Elizabeth I . These policies , these King James policies , prompt Bradford , along with a small community of separatists , to emigrate to the Netherlands , where they can freely practice what they see as the correct religion . It's windy today . I hope you can hear me Walking along the shore now to the rock . But let's talk religion .

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The idea that these separatists , the pilgrims , came to America for religious liberty , specifically to establish a land where everybody could just practice as they see fit , is not true . It just is not . They came to America with the explicit purpose of creating a community that aligned with their separatist views . They didn't want people from the outside to come in . I've got my phone out and here is a quote from American historian John Turner , author of they Knew they Were Pilgrims , plymouth Colony and the Contest for American Liberty , quote . There was rather too much religious toleration in the Dutch Republic . They preferred to establish their own godly society on the other side of the Atlantic and hoped that their success would attract more English Puritans to embrace separatism . End quote . So they're not interested at all really in welcoming different ideologies into this quote . Godly society Something to think about .

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Anywho on to the rock by 1619 , many separatists , who at this point humbly call themselves saints , embrace the idea of emigrating once again , but this time to the sparsely explored , very dangerous , risky America . The Netherlands , where they had lived for 10 years after leaving England , allowed them to practice their religion freely . But Bradford and the separatists had difficulty fitting in , getting jobs . They didn't speak Dutch and they start to realize that they are at their core English . They begin to yearn for a community where they can practice freely and raise children and live in accordance with the English crown and English customs . So after much effort , after much time , the group receives permission to form a settlement in the northern parts of the Virginia Colony , which at the time extended all the way to the Hudson River . The die then was cast was cast In September . The group of 102 people , including 35 children and the now adult William Bradford and his new wife Dorothy , along with an unexpected group of tradesmen , some orphans , people that did not align with the separatist viewpoint . They were called the strangers by the separatists . All these people board a small , cramped commercial vessel .

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The Mayflower sets sail from Plymouth , england , on September 6th 1620 . Sixty-six ruling days pass at sea . When they finally do seal in , they're battered , they're broken , but they're here . Some say when they arrive a

Challenging Religious Freedom Myths

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storm pushes them north . Others say it was intentional to further distance themselves from Virginia and consequently the English crown and influence . Regardless , they arrive north of the stated location when they left and they drop anchor in what's now Provincetown Harbor , off of Cape Cod . Once the anchor is dropped , the land the Separatists on board referred to as their promised land is now in sight Sparse , windswept and , by all appearances , uninhabited land . But they made their choice . Here it is Plymouth Rock . Let's quickly describe what I see . It's a small rock . It's rough , cracked , faded . It's embedded into the dense Massachusetts sand , with the date 1620 etched on the very top of it . So tradition says that this is the spot first stepped upon by those zealous separatists centuries ago , and we'll get to , if there's any truth in that assertion at all . But for now , a quick story Before anyone sets foot off of the Mayflower .

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Bradford and 41 others sign the Mayflower Compact in the hopes of establishing an agreed-upon order , an agreed-upon structure , a government for the new settlement . This hastily written agreement becomes the first European example of self-governance in the new world . It's an early example of rough and tumble democracy , a collective of self-determination , and now is often viewed as the seed that would later become the American experiment

The Mayflower Compact's True Context

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. But what does the document actually say ? I've moved a bit away from the rock . I've moved a bit away from the rock .

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Sometimes I don't like recording next to people . Right now I've got an excerpt from the Mayflower Compact on my phone . Listen to the words In the name of God , amen . We whose names are underwritten , the loyal subjects of our dread sovereign Lord , king James , by the grace of God and Great Britain , france and Ireland , king , defender of the Faith . It keeps going , having undertaken for the glory of God and advancement of the Christian faith and honor of our King and country . I'll stop there for a second .

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What's lost sometimes when people talk about the Mayflower Compact , this binding agreement between people , is that the pilgrims were still very much loyal and legally bound to king and country , to England . What made these pilgrims establish self-governance on the Mayflower Is necessity , it's desperation . It's not out of want necessarily to do so . Right , they had no time to write back to England before winter . They built houses in December . They needed some form of laws to abide by and this was their solution , this was their tool for survival , both with the separatists and with the strangers aboard .

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Still , I have to say , this is an important document that influenced what would later go on to become traditional American ideals . Here's a bit later in the document , which is only 200 words , by the way , just crazy , okay . Quote 200 words , by the way , just crazy , okay , quote . Do , by these presents , solemnly and mutually , in the presence of God and one another , covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic For the better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid , and by the virtue hereof , do enact , constitute and frame such just and equal laws , ordinances , acts , constitutions and offices from time to time , and shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony , unto which we promise all due submissions and obedience . End of quote . It's a rushed proto-democracy right , you've consent , of the governed , different religions coexisting , the separatists and the strangers . Everybody's working towards the general good .

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All of this , remember , born out of necessity , not necessarily choice . It's kind of the seed towards what would become traditional American ideals . But this is the most important thing , it was born out of necessity . They had to survive what was coming . But it pleased God To visit us then with death daily and with so general a disease that the living were scarce able to bury the dead . William Bradford Life is hard . Bradford Life is hard , long , unforgiving .

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In Plymouth Colony that first winter it's late December before they actually start building rudimentary houses . As many as two people of the already small group

The First Winter's Brutal Reality

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die every day from cold , from starvation or from despair . William Bradford's wife falls out of the Mayflower into the cold , frigid Atlantic , or many argue , she throws herself . The Mayflower , still floating along the desolate shore , is converted into a hospital for the sick and the dying . Some promised land this is , mr Bradford , must have been beaten . Come here , bud , come on . Okay . So it's sometimes more convenient to simplify things . But hearing the full story , understanding the larger picture , that sometimes should be our obligation , and the story of how Plymouth Colony survived that first just awful winter , might not be as straightforward as you remember .

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Six years before the arrival of the Mayflower , slave traders capture members of the Wampanoag tribe in modern Massachusetts and throw them aboard a ship bound for Spain . On this ship is Tisquantum , a young Wampanoag man who later escapes imprisonment in Spain and makes his way for England . There he learns English and eventually secures passage back to his beloved tribe . What he finds upon arrival back in America in 1619 is desolation . His village , once thriving , is gone , bones unceremoniously scattered throughout his former home . Well

Tisquantum and Native American History

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kidnapped , well gone . A plague had wiped out his entire village . It's upon this site of Tisquantum's old village , littered with bones , stained with laws , where Bradford and the pilgrims establish Plymouth Plantation . Only 25% of the Wampanoag tribe remains by Plymouth's first winter after the plague . Meanwhile , a nearby enemy tribe , the Narragessent , remains strong . The sickness never spread to them , and so , in a bid for safety against this stronger tribe , tisquantum , having learned English , initiates a treaty between the remaining Wampanoag and the pilgrims who are struggling . They were both weak and they both agreed to defend each other against what they saw as larger threats . Desquantum , from then on , becomes a key resource for the naive settlers , teaching them how to survive the harsh and the foreign terrain right above the remains of his old village . How did Plymouth colony survive To squantum ?

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So Plymouth Rock behind me now is intimately tied with what we call the first Thanksgiving , where the pilgrims celebrate a successful harvest by shooting guns into the air in 1621 . The Wampanoag hear these gunshots and arrive in a frantic mood because they think that the pilgrims are getting attacked . But they're celebrating and the Wampanoag join them because they signed that treaty . That's the story . That's the first Thanksgiving . But here we get to an important point . I think the more you look into it the ideal American story as represented through Plymouth Rock the more it becomes a series of snapshots rather than the whole picture . You know what I mean the kind of false idea of religious tolerance , the wanted establishment of a totally independent proto-democracy , peace and friendship with surrounding tribes . All of this is connecting the dots to tell a story of who we'd like to be as people , not the reality of who we were and sometimes are . Look to this day .

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Tribes come to Plymouth Rock to bring attention to the 400-plus years of deep mistreatment after the landing to Plymouth Rock . To bring attention to the 400 plus years of deep mistreatment after the landing at Plymouth . They and all the visitors to this site behind me now aren't going to see a small , underwhelming rock . They're attracted to everything that it represents the stories , the history , the ideals . So , with that said , what's the story of Plymouth Rock itself

The Actual History of Plymouth Rock

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? There's no historical evidence to confirm Plymouth Rock as Bradford and the Pilgrims' stepping stone into the new world Zero .

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Plymouth Rock's story begins 121 years after the arrival of the Mayflower . In 1741 , 94-year-old Thomas Foss identifies a 10-ton boulder as the precise spot where pilgrims first landed . Thomas's father , who arrived in Plymouth in 1623 , years after the first landing , along with other original Mayflower passengers , assured Thomas of the authenticity of the rock as being the definitive landing spot . Regardless of the authenticity of this claim , regardless of the authenticity of this claim , by 1770 , the rock becomes an American icon , a tangible monument to a distinctly American identity . As a revolutionary fever sweeps through Plymouth , 20 teams of oxen attempt to move the now iconic boulder to the town meeting house , but they split the rock in two on accident . In 1834 , the rock is moved again to the front lawn of the Pilgrim Hall Museum and the boulder once again is dropped and breaks into two again . Souvenir seekers wielding hammers and chisels take portions of the rock . Through the years , chunks are taken off to fit monuments placed around it . It's not until 1880 , when the date 1620 is carved into what's left of the stone and it's returned to the harbor where its base it was torn from over a century ago was waiting . One third of Plymouth Rock's original mass lies intact , and yet another one third is visible above the dense sand . The rock now rests on a sandy bed five feet below street level , inspiring underwhelming , upsetting and intriguing visitors who look down upon it . As one candle may light a thousand , so the light here kindles hearth shown unto many .

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William Bradford , we're back in the van . A lot to think about . Here's the question I'll ask now . Why did the story of Plymouth Colony win out over other early English settlements like Jamestown and become the defining American myth ? Jamestown was established over a decade before Plymouth . Both settlements had similar risks , similar populations . They both have ties to England . I think the overtly simple answer is the Plymouth Colony story has more ingredients to make a compelling American founding myth . A group who seeks religious freedom , establishes self-governance , makes peace with Native populations sounds much more compelling than a group whose interests lie primarily in economics and monetary gain . Right , and that was Jamestown . Jamestown is a less appealing narrative of what we want American history to be ? I don't know . I've always found the whole truth . Sometimes life is more complicated , sometimes stories are more complicated , but that's what makes them important and compelling .

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Plymouth Colony , along with William Bradford , survived that first terrible winter

Why Plymouth Became America's Origin Story

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. William Bradford survive that first terrible winter . Bradford's later writing and reflections on his time in Plymouth , from arrival to his time as governor and eventually to his death , remain a primary contemporary source for that period . He dies , never fully realizing his dream of a cohesive , separatist promised land . Colonies grow , settlements merge and the march of progress quickens . But Plymouth Rock and everything it's come to represent remains weathered , but intact along the Massachusetts shore , intact along the Massachusetts shore . A solitary rock digs into the Atlantic shoreline . The numbers 1620 etched upon its weathered surface . More than one million make the pilgrimage to its quasi-sacred resting place in eastern Massachusetts .

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Why , what really is Plymouth Rock ? You tell me it's Noah here and noodles Say hi , bud , nope , all right , so thank you for listening . I hope you enjoyed the episode . One quick reflection before we sign off .

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The biggest opinion I've seen on Plymouth Rock is that it's underwhelming . Right , you go there and it's a rock , and it's a small rock . It's far away , but I think in a way that's what makes it interesting . You know , this rock has come to represent so many things , so many stories , so many ideals and hopefully , if you do go and visit the Rock , which I think you should it's a bucket list thing . I think you should .

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Looking into the entire story , the full narrative behind

Final Reflections and Conclusion

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the Rock , behind really the American story , is what makes it so interesting . So I challenge you , if you do go to the Rock , look into the history a little bit . I think you'll find you appreciate going there a little more . I did . With that said , thank you again for listening . One thing genuinely you can do to help is to rate and review wherever you're listening . Now it really helps Noodles and I continue to put the work we'd like to put the research we'd like to into each episode and to make this show as great as we'd like it to be . So thank you again . Thanks for traveling with us . Be good to each other . Where to next ?