The Leader Learner Podcast
The Leader Learner podcast is for readers and leaders of all kinds. Theresa and Vincent both work as external learning and development providers to global organizations, supporting them in different ways.
In this podcast, they explore what they're learning from and with the organizations that they work with, as well as what they are learning through their own leadership practices.
The Leader Learner Podcast
S01E01 The Hunting and Farming Episode
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Theresa Destrebecq & Vincent Musolino
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Season 1
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Episode 1
Check In Question:
- If you only had 24 hours to live, what would you do?
Big Ideas:
- “Living is learning to die”
- Having a “north star” that is worth dying for (a just cause)
- Sinek’s belief that businesses are focusing on money, not on a cause.
- How to transition or connect a non-“sexy” business to having a just cause?
- Our “just cause” shouldn’t be tied to a service or product, so we can have “existential flex”
- How do businesses measure success? Financial, Social, Ecological?
- An infinite game isn’t about winning. The goal is to keep playing.
- Winning and losing is short-term, fixed mindset.
- Can you be competitive without winning?
- In the infinite game, the rules are consistently shifting.
- The business shift toward business as a result of ideas from Milton Friedman
- The shift in pay scales between employees and CEO’s over the last several decades
- Reciprocity and giving it back
- How we latch onto ideas and how ideas can change
- Is making money the primary purpose of business, or the secondary?
- Move people up the hierarchy of importance in business
- Moving away from doing business for the shareholders, and focusing on the employees and their contributions
- Imbalance in how we measure financial success with regard to employees and shareholders.
- How to do capitalism different? Who defines capitalism?
- The constellation mindset rather than a pyramid mindset
- A small amount of investment from a large amount of people can tip the scales
- Thinking of our business as hunting (short term) or farming (longing)
- People want to feel valued and a part of the journey
- The importance of cultivating relationships as farmers
References:
- The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek
- The Power of Giving Away Power by Mathew Barzun
- Adam Smith
- Milton Friedman
- Gravity Payments
- The Soul of Money by Lynne Twist
- Podcast between Simon Sinek and Matthew Barzun
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