The Leader Learner Podcast
The Leader Learner podcast is for readers and leaders of all kinds. Theresa and Vincent both work as external learning and development providers to global organizations, supporting them in different ways.
In this podcast, they explore what they're learning from and with the organizations that they work with, as well as what they are learning through their own leadership practices.
The Leader Learner Podcast
S01E02 The Be Equals Episode
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Theresa Destrebecq & Vincent Musolino
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Season 1
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Episode 2
Check in Question:
- If you could spend a whole day with any one person, who would it be?
Big Ideas:
- Learning from anyone through their experiences
- Thinking that one has potential doesn’t commit to anything, but believing that people have the keys to their own happiness and that you are equals
- Seeing your children as your teacher, rather than you as their teacher.
- Equalize the relationship to reduce status/rank, and exploring how the relationship shifts when we relate to them with more equity
- Children not as spongers, but as mirrors.
- Start looking at those who we thinking can’t teach us anything, to teach us something.
- Shifting power dynamics so we are all on the same level
- Stepping down the pedestal, and/or inviting people up onto our pedestal, or giving ourselves permission to step up
- Moving from calling people patients to clients to create more of a partnership
- Fitting in, being liked, and societal shoulds being the drivers away from who we are, and our authentic selves
- Balancing group dynamics with personal needs
- Tension between who we think we are and what the group needs - finding the “right” group
- Transparency about who you are as a leader and asking team to hold you accountable to being who you are
- Which comes first, trust or vulnerability?
- Creating relationships where there is more reciprocity with intention
- In a “help relationship”, both parties are helping each other
- Not needing to be someone special to support other people and have a special role in their growth and/or learning
- Finding mutuality in our relationships
References:
- The Carl Rogers Reader
- The Conscious Parent by Dr. Tsabary Shefali
- Gedankenexperiment
- Atlas of the Heart by Brené Brown
- Marc Brackett researcher
- Social Identity Theory
- Non Violent Communication by Marshall Rosenberg
- Healing Circles Global
- Time to Think by Nancy Klein
- Mary Parker Follett
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