The Leader Learner Podcast

S01E03 The Living of The Knowledge of Life Episode (with Tames Rietdijk)

February 21, 2022 Theresa Destrebecq & Vincent Musolino Season 1 Episode 3
The Leader Learner Podcast
S01E03 The Living of The Knowledge of Life Episode (with Tames Rietdijk)
Show Notes

With Guest: Tames Rietdijk, founder and former CEO at Business Forensics

Check in Question:

  • Did you ever play hooky or cut class in school?

Big Ideas:

  • Learning as a way of life
  • Balance between “living the life of my knowledge, living of the knowledge of life”
  • Would lose perspective if I focused my learning on only one area
  • Living of the knowledge of life is learning from the signs and your interpretation 
  • Sometimes your environment doesn’t always allow you to transform you into who you want to be
  • Not using the knowledge of the past to inform the future
  • Learning through experiences and reflection
  • Putting myself out of my comfort zone to apply what I am learning from books
  • The range of people’s opinions from failure to success
  • Learning from the feedback of others that is the opposite of the feedback you would give yourself
  • The importance of looking at your drivers (sometimes they are hidden)
  • The habit of relearning 
  • The importance of seeing the business world from the inside, rather than studying it from the outside
  • Letting go of people who may be super productive, but who give feedback in a critical manner
  • The power of silence
  • The sense of reassurance and certainty that comes with data and numbers
  • Supporting people to learn and understanding that people’s experience and maturity shifts how they learn
  • The difference between mentoring and coaching and how to apply them with those you lead
  • A sense of autonomy matters
  • Critical and conscious thinking and the importance of being mindful of your own assumptions 
  • Recognizing your own assumptions and beliefs, so that you based your decisions on facts
  • The older you get, the more knowledge you gain, and the more experiences you have, yet the more stuck you are in your assumptions.
  • Thinking your assumptions are the truth makes it harder to step back from them
  • Experiencing the knowledge so that you internalize your learning more
  • The training triangle between participants, trainer, and knowledge


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