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S02E03 The Explain Not Persuade Episode

October 10, 2022 Theresa Destrebecq & Vincent Musolino Season 2 Episode 3
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S02E03 The Explain Not Persuade Episode
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The Leader Learner Podcast
S02E03 The Explain Not Persuade Episode
Oct 10, 2022 Season 2 Episode 3
Theresa Destrebecq & Vincent Musolino

Check-In Question:

  • If you were a vegetable, what vegetable would you be?


Big Ideas:

  • Theresa's BIG Reflection Question: How can I have an opinion or take a stand on something, without other people taking in personally, or feeling judged.
  • "Strong back soft front." ~Joan Halifax
  • Is taking a stand the same as having an opinion?
  • How can you care about someone and want to persuade them that you are right?
  • Can you take a stand without persecuting someone?
  • Values as our stand
  • Conversations don't always have to be confrontations
  • Be open to NOT wanting to change people's minds
  • Persuasion is different than explanation
  • "For most of us the opposite of speaking isn't listening, it's waiting" ~Daniel Pink
  • Asking people for their sources puts them on the defensive
  • Logos (what we say), Ethos (character of person), Pathos (affect we are creating in others)
  • How convincing others doesn't work and often doesn't bear fruit
  • Judging activities and not people
  • Difference between judgment (good/bad) and discernment (like/don't like) 
  • The importance of the words we use
  • Swap good/bad for useful/not useful to be less judgmental
  • The lens we see things through
  • Divide between consequentialists (duty pound) and utilitarians (principle bound)
  • We need to take a stand for things to change
  • How relationships shift whether we need to take a stand
  • Constructive and destructive anger - fighting to be right, or for what is right
  • You can't be fierce in a vacuum
  • Our stand doesn't have to be other's stands
  • Is making a decision taking a stand?
  • Can our world exist without people taking a stand?
  • Not just what we do, but the environment, timing, and people matters
  • How/where does authority and power come into play
  • Dissention among individual contributors doesn't necessarily create change
  • Taking a stand when your manager gives you another project
  • Not just what you say, but how you say it matters


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Check-In Question:

  • If you were a vegetable, what vegetable would you be?


Big Ideas:

  • Theresa's BIG Reflection Question: How can I have an opinion or take a stand on something, without other people taking in personally, or feeling judged.
  • "Strong back soft front." ~Joan Halifax
  • Is taking a stand the same as having an opinion?
  • How can you care about someone and want to persuade them that you are right?
  • Can you take a stand without persecuting someone?
  • Values as our stand
  • Conversations don't always have to be confrontations
  • Be open to NOT wanting to change people's minds
  • Persuasion is different than explanation
  • "For most of us the opposite of speaking isn't listening, it's waiting" ~Daniel Pink
  • Asking people for their sources puts them on the defensive
  • Logos (what we say), Ethos (character of person), Pathos (affect we are creating in others)
  • How convincing others doesn't work and often doesn't bear fruit
  • Judging activities and not people
  • Difference between judgment (good/bad) and discernment (like/don't like) 
  • The importance of the words we use
  • Swap good/bad for useful/not useful to be less judgmental
  • The lens we see things through
  • Divide between consequentialists (duty pound) and utilitarians (principle bound)
  • We need to take a stand for things to change
  • How relationships shift whether we need to take a stand
  • Constructive and destructive anger - fighting to be right, or for what is right
  • You can't be fierce in a vacuum
  • Our stand doesn't have to be other's stands
  • Is making a decision taking a stand?
  • Can our world exist without people taking a stand?
  • Not just what we do, but the environment, timing, and people matters
  • How/where does authority and power come into play
  • Dissention among individual contributors doesn't necessarily create change
  • Taking a stand when your manager gives you another project
  • Not just what you say, but how you say it matters


Resources Mentioned:

More yummy content on leaderlearner.fm