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Rather than talk to authors about the professional development books that they have written, the Leader Learner podcast spotlights readers and delves into their process the book(s) that have had an impact on them and their work.
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The Leader Learner Podcast
S02E12 The Upstream And Downstream Episode
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Theresa Destrebecq & Vincent Musolino
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Season 2
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Episode 12
Check-In:
- Describe a time when you helped a stranger.
Big Ideas:
- sense of ownership
- autonomy as a cop-out for organizational responsibility
- not about changing the fish, but about changing the environment
- When we invite people into our organizations, are we hoping they will be 'unbreakable'?
- the challenge of changing the whole organization
- teaching fish to swim in the toxic water, or changing the water
- Is the entire system toxic?
- lower toxicity with caring and listening
- leadership, history impact how toxic the environment
- treating the symptom rather than the cause
- duty to support the individuals and the leadership
- Is resilience a lever like leadership, or like psychological safety? Is it a result?
- Can we directly impact resilience?
- Resilience as it relates to personal struggle
- Asking "Why me?" versus "What now?"
- The questions we ask determine how resilient we are
- Resilience as a learned experience, not a theoretical one
- Relationship supportive of our resilience
- Causality is difficult to determine
- What? So what? Now what?
- Time spent looking for why - does it matter?
- Does the category help find the solution?
- Do you need to know what is in the ocean to clean it?
- How resources impact how/where we spent our time?
- Where are the resources most impactful?
- If you can clean it, why worry about dirtying it in the first place?
- Apply resources where the leverage is highest
- System and people are complex
- Yes for the system, AND yes for the individual
- How often do we rely on the system to take care of us?
- Moving out of the either/or choices
- Binary bias - when there is no middle ground, we have to choose one or the other
- multiple layers of action - I, We, They
- not looking for reasons, but looking for meaning and actions
- when point 1 finger outward, there are 3 fingers pointing backward
Resources:
- Antifragile by Nassim Nicholas Taleb
- The Gift by Edith Eger
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