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The Leader Learner Podcast
S02E18 The Arguing is Fun Episode
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Theresa Destrebecq & Vincent Musolino
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Season 2
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Episode 18
Check-In:
- What is one key trait that makes successful people successful?
Big Ideas:
- Thinking better with other people
- "We think best when we think socially."
- Social constructivism
- Group think -- we let loyalty take the place of our thinking
- Think for yourself, before you think with others
- Use tools/methods to help people think better
- Think first, share second - Alone Together
- When the first person anchors the rest of the sharing
- Speaking last as a manager
- Divergent thinking before convergent thinking
- Giving ideas space - go into a room together to define the problem, brainstorm alone, then back together with all the ideas
- Diverging first as not being natural
- Push for convenience and efficiency which gets in the way of the social way of thinking
- Check-In is seen as a waste of time, yet it creates a synchronization at the beginning of a meeting
- How to diverge when we don't feel psychologically safe
- What creates groupiness? Learn together, Train together, Feeling together, Engage in rituals together, Synchronicity (body, meals)
- Lost the sense of "groupiness" at work
- Role-playing games - must let everyone's roles play out
- Having structure for debating with one another can make it fun
- Disagreement and conflict aren't synonymous - disagreement is about ideas, conflict is personalized
- Leaders as moderators for healthy disagreement
- Do managers need to be trained in running meeting design, moderation, etc?
- Starting meetings with music?
- Different neural pathways are used when learning versus when teaching
- The jigsaw method of teaching - learn a small part and then teach it to others
- Must learn to think for yourself through reflection time
- The more roots something has, the more powerful
- Offloading information by making it visual, talking about it, journaling
- Busy-ness isn't always productive
- Foster different ways of thinking about things - using objects
- The importance of evaluating others' ideas not just expand on your own.
- Arguing across cultures - different cultures approach it differently
- Arguing as not being seen as team-playing
- Creating a system for disagreement combined psychological safety
- Productive disagreement versus unproductive conflict
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