The Leader Learner Podcast

S03E04 The Create Your Leadership Episode

November 01, 2023 Theresa Destrebecq & Vincent Musolino Season 3 Episode 4
The Leader Learner Podcast
S03E04 The Create Your Leadership Episode
Show Notes


  • Do you like to be used or second hand items?

Big Ideas:

  • Is leadership working? Does leadership training work?
  • Training cannot be done outside of the context
  • Consuming, Connecting, Creating
  • Stopping our ways of being are habitual is more challenging than we thought
  • We are emotional beings
  • Embodiment of the ideas takes longer than a training
  • Being intentional about practicing the ideas we learn in the training - take the pause and creating a support system
  • Sense of personal responsibility of the individuals in training
  • The treadmill and lack of control prevents people from implementing
  • Top management not participating in training themselves - "I am a CXO, so I don't need training." This creates misalignment.
  • Transparency around how we are learning
  • Alienation of true selves when we go to work
  • Measuring leadership
  • Attribution errors - when we attribute success to one person, rather than multiple factors
  • A record doesn't matter when you hire someone
  • Being a good leader of yourself, to support other leaders
  • What can I do today? Taking personal responsibility
  • Imitation versus borrowing
  • Reading books that make you think rather than telling you what to do
  • Sometimes the expert is wrong - we can't always take someone's formula and apply it to ourselves
  • Process consultation - practicing on the spot 
  • Having multiple ongoing touchpoints throughout, or after a training is over
  • Voluntary training or mandatory training? Does participation shift?


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