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S04E08 Incongruence and The Smush (with Lucy Chambers)

• Theresa Destrebecq (formerly also with Vincent Musolino) • Season 4 • Episode 8

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💡 SPOTLIGHTED BOOK : Unbound by Kasia Urbaniak
📚 GUEST READER : Lucy Chambers

💬 CONVERSATION HIGHLIGHTS:

  • when managing 2 opposing views together ( a Taoist Nun and a Dominatrix)
  • power is connected to our attention and where we direct it
  • Dominant Position - attention out
  • Submissive Position - attention in
  • Link to coaching and coaches not setting the agenda
  • power is about influence and nothing else
  • both types of attention have value
  • "The SMUSH" - when we flip flop between the two states of attention, or we have a foot in each state
  • Incongruence occurs when our words don't match our energy - when we soften our words based on society's expectations on us
  • People can smell intention - our animal body speaks more than we know/believe
  • Manipulation - women get seen as this more often than men. Women fall into this SMUSH more often than men.
  • Learning to ask from a place of grounded legitimacy. 
  • Socialized that asking correlates with weakness
  • We can't have an impact and play big if we aren't willing to ask for what we want/need
  • "I am not having a conversation with _____________ about ___________."
  • Asking exposes our edges.
  • Connecting our requests to our universal human needs.
  • Asking creates an opportunity for others and gives them a new role in their life
  • Be as specific as you can when making requests. 
  • The half ask is the SMUSH. 
  • Wanting people to read our minds doesn't work. 
  • We have a poor vocabulary for how we feel.
  • Ideas need to be nourished.
  • Allowing our asks to delight other people as they fulfill them. 
  • When our asks create a WIN-WIN. 
  • Asking takes vulnerability
  • The toxic side of the independent woman - we don't have to do it all alone, and we are biologically leaned to connect with others.
  • We don't create power siting alone in a room, but through connecting with others.
  • Spend time taking things in and putting things out in the world.


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Lucy Chambers is an anti-overwhelm coach and facilitator working on breaking old, broken patterns to create space for new great things. You can find and follow her at: https://facilitationmindset.substack.com/

https://www.facilitationmindset.com/

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