The Leader Learner Podcast
The Leader Learner podcast is for readers and leaders of all kinds. Theresa and Vincent both work as external learning and development providers to global organizations, supporting them in different ways.
In this podcast, they explore what they're learning from and with the organizations that they work with, as well as what they are learning through their own leadership practices.
The Leader Learner Podcast
The Leadership Garden
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Theresa Destrebecq (formerly also with Vincent Musolino)
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Episode 65
TOPIC : If leadership training is dead, how do companies still develope leaders?
Big Ideas:
- Learning experiences can happen without training
- Learning that happens in community can have a bigger impact
- Learning happens in a spiral -- you have to come back to it again and in different ways.
- Learning happens across multiple axis across time, not linearly
- Leadership learning can happen below the surface before people can see it
- Creating a non-threatening environment -- psychological safety
- Put something in the community basket
- There is no lever for learning - you can just pull and it emerges
- Leadership as an emergent property, rather than something that can be directly developed
- How does the hierarchical structure of training impeding leadership training?
- Focus on the process of learning, rather than the delivering of content and information.
- Practice versus training?
- "Knowledge isn't wisdom. Wisdom in knowledge in action."
- Give people a space to activate the information. Everyone sparks at different times.
- Creating self-fulfilling frameworks that can be peer generated after wards
- Some models can be reciprocated, but the experience may not be the same
- Small moments of connected learning keeps the learning alive - the more exposure to the ideas, the more your Reticular Activation System is activated
- How do we assess whether a learning experience is effective?
- If leadership training is so great, why do we still have the same number of problems we have?
- Does success always mean rising in an organization?
- If everyone can be a leader, how do I choose the next leader?
- Managing and leading aren't the same skill set.
- Promoting people who aren't good at their jobs, but are still potential leaders.
- Sometimes we are short-sighted about leadership development
- Garden metaphor -- plant some seeds, nurture, see what grows, adapt based on what you see
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