The Leader Learner Podcast
The Leader Learner podcast is for readers and leaders of all kinds. Theresa and Vincent both work as external learning and development providers to global organizations, supporting them in different ways.
In this podcast, they explore what they're learning from and with the organizations that they work with, as well as what they are learning through their own leadership practices.
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Is connection the content?
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Theresa Destrebecq and Vincent Musolino
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Episode 69
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Overarching Question: Which is more important, content or connection?
Big ideas:
- Peter Block -- "Connection is the Content"
- content and connection as an infinity loop
- different types of connection -- to ideas, to others, and oneself
- relationship and communication interact with another
- trust cannot be built without connection
- delivering content with trust doesn't lead to integration
- we relate to content differently when there is time for connection
- you can't just throw content at people and expect them to learn
- it's hard to measure effectiveness in adult learning
- video courses have low completion rates because they miss the social aspect
- diverse groups provide perspective shifts that we can't get alone
- content can come easily from AI these days
- "Leave people changed, not just informed." -- Informed is the content piece, changed is the connection piece
- Perspectival knowing -- creating knowing that shifts your perspective
- knowledge needs context to be meaningful
- reading has become the exception to doomscrolling
- reading keeps people engaged in a topic over a long period of time
- when you connect with the content you're more engaged and motivated
- content in itself is useless without the connection piece
- shelf development -- when the knowledge/change stays on the shelf
- without trust you can't connect, without connection you can't trust - a feedback loop
- If a leader embodies the "connection is the content" idea, what does that mean for them?
- connection embedded into all the content
- a process doesn't necessarily create the connection
- breakout rooms are a structure that facilitate connection
- put people into breakout rooms as they arrive to simulate the slow entering into a live space
- content without connection is information
- content is embedded in the conversation -- people are a source of content too
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