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Changing Conversations
Change happens and manifests in Conversations, both for us as humans and for organisations. As leaders and employees we are never not in conversation. Conversations are elemental in making things happen, but it is still a blind spot with a huge potential for many of us. Conversations might be the smallest biggest thing in making organisations fit for humans and fit for the future. In this explorative podcast series, hosts Katrina Marshall Dyrting and Stig Albertsen will discuss Changing Conversations together with a range of conversation evangelists. The guests will include business leaders, as well as management thinkers and thought leaders from academia and beyond.
Changing Conversations
Megan Reitz - Why you need to be more spacious as a leader
Why spaciousness matters for leading in speed—and how to create it
These are the key questions we discuss in this episode of Changing Conversations with Megan Reitz.
Megan Reitz is Associate Professor at Saïd Business School, Oxford, and Professor of Leadership and Dialogue at Hult-Ashridge Executive Education. A leading voice on leadership, speaking up and organisational dialogue, her latest research explores spaciousness: a quality of attention that reveals relationships, interdependencies and possibilities hidden in constant doing mode.
In this conversation, we share:
- That leaders operate in two modes of attention: doing (instrumental, narrow) and spacious (open, curious, unhurried)—and why “spaciously doing” integrates both
- How your presence shapes others’ voice and performance—and practical micro-pauses to shift how you show up
- Why we often avoid space (fear, success = activity) and the myth that spaciousness means doing nothing
- How to design for creativity and safety in fast-paced systems (rituals, metrics, environments)
- A practical framework: SPACE—Safety, People, Attention (speed bumps), Conflict (dissonance), Environment
We’d love to keep the conversation alive. Reach out to Katrina and Stig to challenge us, ask a question, recommend a future guest and give us feedback.