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Hello, dirty moderates. If it is a Thursday or Friday, whenever you're listening to this, it is stay dirty. Stay moderate day, really. Loving doing these. By the way. And thanks so much guys for listening. Thank you. Always for all the support. I know that a lot of people who listen, this podcast hear me interviewing guests, which is obviously the thrust of the whole idea, but also want to get my take on the week's events and I enjoy doing it. It makes me think, makes me learn. Makes me really want to come. Come and talk to you guys about again. We always say this every week, discourse and dialogue and having really a discussion As Americans about who we are what we share in common and how we disagree. And, and it's okay to disagree. So we like to do here is talk about disagreeing and you know, disagreement isn't fatal or final. What I mean by that is that you can disagree with somebody and still work with them, which is what I want to talk about today. First and foremost. We had dirty 

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moderate making Horsemen so far, we have endorsed Liz Cheney for re-election because we are not partisan here. And when we see fit, the Republicans who held up the banner of Truth and been courageous in the face of traitorous lies, I think deserve our praise our endorsement. That's what we believe. Raphael Warnock and Georgia see in a tough race. Consortial Walker Val, demings will be challenging, Marco Rubio in Florida. Also in a tough race, Governor, Laura Kelly, probably the most endangered, governor, who is running as a Democrat. She's running in deep red, Kansas hard to believe she 14 years ago, but she Did we proudly endorsed her for her Common Sense leadership? And the alternative would be at Republican obviously. And you know what? We're going to do with Lisa murkowski and before everybody gasped and said, well, what do you mean? Let's talk about. Let's talk about Lisa. Lisa murkowski is the daughter of Frank murkowski. Frank murkowski was a longtime senator from Alaska. And then 

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when he went off to be Governor, she filled out the rest of his term is about 20 years ago in about 2002 and Lisa. Only tend to hear about in the news, when they're sort of a critical vote. And people look to the quote-unquote, Republicans saying, normal moderate Republicans for votes, most recent example, her vote, which was really terrific. And I don't know how it plays in Alaska, probably plays well with some and that's what with others. Your vote to confirm, the end. Only qualified Itachi, Brown Jackson. She Mitt Romney and Susan Collins. Did that to ensure her appointment to the Supreme Court murkowski as a pro-choice? Senator pro-choice Republican. She has also been incredibly I'd say pragmatic about her conservatism or her moderation in the way she or excuse me in the way. She uses moderation to be conservative. That's probably a better way to put it. No, Democrat is running. By the way, in Alaska, for this seat. They have what's called ranked Choice. Voting, you might be familiar 

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with that. They're doing it more and more. And you saw it in New York with Eric Adams, where the top four. Vote-getters everybody. Everybody's an Open Primary basically, and then it comes down to the top four, vote Getters. And that gets wheedle down. To go down. So somebody wins. She has competition. Lisa does from a trump Publican on the right, who is a trump endorsed election lying, seditionist who obviously think. So any of Lisa's decent votes, which also include, by the way, opposing Brett Kavanaugh to the court for reasons behavioral and I think it is a logical being a very big supporter of the recent bipartisan infrastructure Bill, and she voted to make sure that the Affordable Care. Care Act, Obamacare was preserved back in 2017. When McCain's famous thumbs down to say that too. So, it wouldn't be repealed when televised viral Lisa was one of those votes, those important votes. You guys, who listen here know that, I'm not a, I'm not on the left. I wish I lament all the time. The 

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moral and philosophical collapse of the party of Abraham Lincoln into a cult into a hateful place for the coops weirdos clowns reprobates white supremacists, Nazi sympathizers, and and And all that, all the name of Donald John Trump, all in the service of this man who did so much damage a democracy and Lisa, of course, voted to convict him for inciting January, 6 riots. So, all around, when you look at murkowski and you realize, there isn't really a liberal alternative and to be fair. I was just trying this one of my producers. If we if the Democrats shouldn't say we of the Democrats, had a larger majority in the Senate and might still vote for her, if that majority didn't hang in the balance. Not because I favor everything that they're doing. Are doing, but I do believe for all their imperfections of Democrats care about democracy and the majority of the Republican party does not. Okay, obviously, I believe Mitt Romney does and I do believe. There are other Governors, congresspeople. Liz 

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Cheney, of course, the outgoing Adam kinzinger, a lot of people are retiring or those who were staying to fight really put their seats in Peril as the sort of swath of trumpism, you know, envelops that party. So it is with no qualifications actually and no need to Eyes or I don't know, may make any excuses for why we endorse Lisa murkowski. Not that we would not that we would, but there are people that still couldn't understand what? We endorse Liz Cheney, and I said, well, it Democrats not winning in that seat either but doesn't Liz Cheney whose risk your career for. But you don't have to write to go up against these clowns. And these lunatics probably will lose her seat as an Open Primary, and Wyoming. By the way, send her money because Democrats not ranked Choice voting, like, Alaska, but Democrats can vote in there. Don't you think that that's worth fighting for? Because right here, right? We always talk about every week, we fight like hell for democracy. It's what we're doing right 

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democracy. First country, first, country over part. And six more years of murkowski means, you have a truth-teller on the Republican side. You have somebody that will be honorable on the issues that can't you may not agree with her in everything. I don't know that I agree with or whatever but I don't agree with Joe Biden. The Democrats on everything. So, you know, if the Republican nominee of a for a particular race is not a truth denying Cretin, as I like to call them then I think that they're worth our look, you know, there's an honorable tradition. Mission in this country of bipartisanship and moderate republicanism people, Reaching Across the, I know to generation today, that seems crazy. But let's talk about that. Okay, the center Arthur Schlessinger jr. After World War two, famous political writer, Kennedy aide and thinker of American History, called it the Vital Center, you know, this sort of overall deep commitment where Republicans and Democrats believe that we should have progress. 

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We should move forward, we should Be able to have a shot at the American dream. We should be able to live better than our parents did those. Those dreams have been sorely, tested, obviously, and strain for a generation growing up with war and recession, and covid now, and, and one crisis after another, especially the last two decades, but there is so many instances. Where a Lisa murkowski existed in yesteryear. This past December, the great Bob Dole of Kansas died. Bob Dole for those. Who don't know who he was. Was the one of the longest-serving Senators, he was a senate, majority leader, in a senate, minority leader on and off. He was famously, the 1996 Republican Presidential nominee. He was defeated by Bill Clinton, who won a second term Dole was. Also, the 1976 Vice Presidential nominee to then President Gerald Ford. And they also were defeated by Jimmy Carter and Walter Mondale. In 1976 the Democratic ticket, but Dole throughout his career from a young congressman. In Kansas was Senator 

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to a national candidate was an old-fashioned Lincoln Republican, you know, he represented a district in Kansas. I mean, by all accounts, probably have one or two black people in it at all and back in the 60s, but no camera on him and nobody scrutinizing him. What did he do? He voted for the Civil Rights Act of 64, he voted for the Voting Rights Act of 65. And then in 1968, he voted for the third of those important, you know, Landmark civil rights post. They're Housing Act of 1968, Dole exemplify, the kind of murkowski centrism in a lot of ways, and at the time he was considered more conservative than maybe other moderate Republicans. Were there always Rockefeller Republicans named after Nelson, Rockefeller governor of long term governor of New York and Nelson Rockefeller was the vice president. I'd States briefly for Gerald Ford. When Nixon resigned for took over, there was a vacancy in the vice presidency, right? Because Gerald Ford became president. And he appointed and Senate confirmed 

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Nelson. Rockefeller very, very liberal Republican, who they thought was too liberal actually to run on the ticket. Hence. Bob Dole came on, but that didn't mean Bob Dole was a conservative Bob Dole's, a World War Two veteran. He injured famously injured, his hand, and his arm in Italy and Italian Foxhole. He spent 18 months recovering in a bed. He was in bitter to a degree by that, but never forgot his sacrifice and often did the right thing. He and then Senator Hubert. Humphrey also was a vice president. I'd States made sure. School lunches were available to all kids. No one goes hungry to Federal entitlement. That was Bob Dole. And by the way, I'm not, I'm not here to be. This is not the Bob Dole fan club or Bob Dole variety show. I'm just using him. He's an avatar of what we're talking about. When we endorse people like Makowski and he was more, the norm than the exception in for most of the years. In our politics. Certainly, the years following World War Two and the 1960s 70s 80s, Dole 

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and George McGovern. George McGovern was the 1972 Democratic nominee famously. Wished slaughtered by a re-elected, Richard Nixon. That was one of the two elections in the past 50 years where there was a 49 State way. And that's right, Richard Nixon beat Senator, George McGovern, with governess of South Dakota. He did not carry his home state. He only carried Massachusetts and Washington DC which is a state that they have three electoral votes. Nixon cruised over him, you know deeming him out of touch and far left. All the same thing the Republicans do now, but he was a very popular senator from South Dakota for a long time and he and Bob All both representing Farm States, made sure that the food stamp program for poor Farmers, but everybody don't be a farmer but it applies to many people in farms applies to people and disadvantaged neighborhoods. I'll survive. That was a Bob Dole Cooperative measure to in 1982. He a New York, Democrat one of my heroes and politics Senator Daniel. Patrick 

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Moynihan a legend who had actually worked in the Johnson and Nixon and Ford Administration a variety of capacities. He was also So, an ambassador for the Gerald Ford. I believed in India. It was elected. The 70s served in New York until he retired. Hillary Clinton. I'll solve for the political junkies became a center of New York when Moynihan decide to retire in the year 2000. Hillary was elected and served her six year term. She was re-elected. And of course, first ran for president and 08 the point being Dolan Moines. And I want to give you guys all the scuttlebutt here, right? All the political geek stuff that you may or may not know. I love this stuff toll and Moynihan save Social Security which was on it. The Becoming insolvent, they restored. Its fiscal. Its fiscal durability. Bob Dole also championed the Martin Luther King holiday, it was passed in 83, and went to affect an 85, a good. The majority of people voted for not everybody is still had your Southern racists then open racist, 

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you know, segregationist and stuff. And you had sort of weird libertarian, types and said, well, the federal government should make this holiday was Preposterous. Anyway, that's been a national holiday on that. I think it's the third Monday of every January. But again, Bob Dole stepping forward on behalf of the Civil Rights community and Perkins majority of Americans who wanted to honor dr. King and honor his legacy. So murkowski obviously is not Bob. Dole Kowski is a senator from Alaska Alaska leans pretty individualistically and kind of in a Libertarian sense. I mean she's been able to govern from the center. Let it be known that in 2010. She lost the Republican primary to an extremist. She ran as an independent and one in the state of Alaska. So she was elected in 2010. Finished out. Her dad's term 2002 and then she was up for re-election and she in 2010. She didn't win the primary public and party of Alaska, even then go and tea party mad denominator. She want anyone? She was then, 

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re-elected re-elected in 2016. The year of trump could have been here to throw her out. She got elected. So here we are, says she Senator serve. Six year, terms 2022. Lisa murkowski is up for re-election. That's why we endorse her and it's interesting. Because she will be opposed on the far right again by a truth tonight. Republican can't have that folks and Lisa's been very, very Cooperative. Very bipartisan. A lot of things, not everything shouldn't have to be, she didn't win as an independent. She still caucuses with the Republican party, but as a republican, unlike Bernie Sanders who identifies an independent, but he caucuses with the Democrats, or Angus, King of Maine, also, identifies as an independent caucuses. With the Democrats of that counts toward the majority. Party numbers. Meaning, if Lisa murkowski were to say she caucuses with the Democrats. They have Democrats of 51 votes, but she was, they said daughter of a very famous Alaska. Republican Alaska as obviously huge named 

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American population, and she has been terrific Steward of tribal rights, and Native, American progress and very supportive of our current interior. Secretary Deb Holland, who was the first Native American to hold a cabinet position voted for? Obviously for her confirmation, where many in the GOP didn't Secretary of Here and obviously that deals with the Wilderness Wildlife National Parks all that stuff. And as you know, Alaska is not what you would call Urban or Suburban. So there's issues in Alaska right that she may vote or vote on that one. May someone may or may not disagree, but that's what people ask a walk. The great thing about America is we have 50 states and I always say this the federal government shouldn't be telling a rancher in Montana what to charge for the Rancher fees or their cattle fees stay out of it's not their business and makes people then go in and vote for some of these hard right people despite it because they don't want that. That heavy-handed government and then 

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we get these monsters in there. Now. A lot of people were voting that aren't monsters. They just don't want bureaucrats in Washington. It sounds like rhetoric but it isn't telling them what to do. Same thing there people in Alaska, good people, good independent people dirty moderates that like Lisa for holding the line being committed to the American idea, this American experiment which seems to always be struggling to survive, but none like. Now, I mean, again, we do want to say that we had a civil war in the 19th century. We've been tested and tried the Great Depression and Of course, WWII didn't come to our Shores, but we went there, but it almost feels as if now more than ever America. Hangs precipitously in the balance, right. This nearly 250 year idea of self-government the most successful experiment of self-government ever known and part of that success, part of this. Dream that we all keep dreaming about, you know, a more perfect union is because we can have people who are honorable 

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public servants who we don't necessarily agree with. Or we do agree with or we agree with on part of the platform. Not the whole thing. And that's okay. Gotta get away from this party line stuff, guys. It's center of gravity in America, is in the middle. Most people are dirty modders. Think Americans would love if there was a practical aspect of politics politics, being bread-and-butter material pragmatic. We're gonna have enough money to pay my rent, buy groceries, or the kids going to be safe at school. Politics comes down to sort of that brass tacks. Bread-and-butter. How does it affect me thing? The people of Alaska, like, that Lisa seems to fight for them. I keep calling her Lisa. Like, I know. I apologize, Senator murkowski. But anyway, let's talk about Lisa, is the name of this, right? And we proudly endorsed her and we We wish her success that seat does not fall to a trump. I'm looking. But we also wish America to get back to governing and stop partisan squabbling and hating and 

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I know it sounds pollyannish, it sounds naive, but it isn't. That's why I think you guys listen to me here and I appreciate it. That's why we've gained so much traction. As a young podcast. I think it's why America came together to vote out Donald Trump. I mean, though, the best of us were the best of our intentions are still there. There is a loud minority that wants to turn this democracy upside down and join authoritarian shithouse. And then, there are people on the far left. You vote with those people against Ukraine and for Putin because they don't like America on either extreme. I would argue these people do not like America. The rest of us, the rest of us the great majority, the Vital Center. We love America. We really do love her for all her lies, Omission sins and faults, but what country doesn't happen? We love her because we still going to try to keep on keeping and realizing some sense of what it means to be an American willing to change willing to grow. So just hard can be 

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scary but it's worth it. People who believe in this experiment are people, we believe in and we'd like to see Lisa murkowski elected Alaska. She is a Republican senator and we endorse her folks. It is always good to talk to you. And again, I can't thank you enough for your support till next time. Stay dirty and stay moderate.