Mandela Effect

Today we have a round table discussion on the Mandela Effect. Thousands if not millions of people claim to recall things differently than they are. Movies, music, brands, and others seem to have changed from their inception. Childhood memories are going to be shattered with this one! Tune in to question your sanity.

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Mandela Effect

[00:00:00] Jeremiah: Hello, my fellow Terrestrials coming to you from an RV deep in the Carolina Mountains. Welcome to the What If They're Wrong podcast. The podcast that wants you to question everything. Your reality is about to be shattered.
Hello and welcome to the What If the Wrong Podcast, podcast. I want you to question everything. I'm joined today by Jeremy, Aaron and Dawn, and we're gonna be talking about a much loved conspiracy, the Mandela Effect, and it was first coined in around 2009. Some lady said that, uh, Mandela had died in prison back in the eighties.
Um, And then there was con conflict. Some people said, no, he died in 2013. And other people were like, yes, I remember him dying in jail. So the whole Mandel effect started. It really gained popularity, uh, around 2012 and after I remember it just became huge, like internet sensation. And since then, people have found tons of things that they thought they remembered but weren't exactly accurate.
So we're gonna go over a bunch of those and, um, this'll probably end up being like a two-parter, but we'll start with, uh, the most common ones, I guess. And yeah, we'll see what everyone remembers. And you might have your mind balloon listening to this. So what's up guys? Hi. What's going? What's going on? Oh, you know, just another Sunday.
I just, uh, hope they didn't jump realities or anything.
So for the Mandela effects, so we'll start with like the most popular one that everyone brings up when talking about Mandela effect, the Barren Stain Bears versus the Baren Stein Bears. And a lot of people remember it being Baren Stein Bears, and some people remember it being Baron Stein, but not many from what I've come across.
For me personally, it was always Baren Stein. I don't know about you guys. Yeah, 
[00:02:29] Jeremy: they were Berenstein Berenstein. They were supposed to be like a, I always talk about, as a kid to be like a Jewish bear family. Like that's what I thought it was a kid. So 
[00:02:38] Erin: I, I went to Doy Park when I was younger and they had actually Berenstein bears as, uh, part of their theme park.
So yeah, I, I was an avid reader and I definitely remember it with the e. 
[00:02:50] Dawn: I'm thinking that probably where you grew up and how you pronounce things, maybe too. But I mean, I remember with an E. 
[00:03:00] Jeremiah: Yeah. It's strange cuz most people I've talked to or come across, they're listened to online. They all say they remember the spelling with the E, the Bernstein.
And to me personally, Bernstein just doesn't even sound right. Like I think I would remember that 
[00:03:17] Dawn: because it would've been funny, something to joke 
[00:03:20] Jeremiah: about. Yeah. Especially like as you, you know, younger kids it you would Yes. You know, potty humor. Mm-hmm. The brown stain bears. Yeah.
It's just a very fascinating thing. Cause this one, especially because I feel like a lot of people, majority of people side with the Bernstein bears, 
[00:03:44] Dawn: they do, and this one's a. One of the first Mandela effects to really come out on the internet to explode and people went crazy with it. So I'll go to stores and if I see like at um, antique store, if I see something barren scheme, I'm like looking at everything to see if anything has changed.
So, I mean, it's really opened everybody's eyes to look at your surroundings and see if anything has really changed or altered. 
[00:04:19] Jeremiah: Oh yeah, for sure. Cause it's one of those ones that like people really have a fond memory of and when they find out that their memory isn't right, it like makes 'em stop and think.
Yeah. And I think a lot of these are like, you have to stop and think cuz you're like, huh, I always thought this way. But they're saying it's not this way now, so. 
[00:04:44] Dawn: Right, 
[00:04:45] Erin: right. I went digging for my totes with all my old books in it, trying to find a book. And actually did, but it had the new way, which blew my mind.
Like it really did because I remember looking at it. I know I was, there's one of my, I thought I had, I had thought I had the treasure chest. Like I, I really did. Cuz I had, there's, there's one of my 
[00:05:06] Jeremy: kids' rooms, there's one of my kids' rooms somewhere. I just bought BJ's like a year ago. I fricking shook, grabbed it.
[00:05:12] Erin: Mine were from the eighties though. 
[00:05:15] Jeremy: Oh God, no. Mine, mine guy's holding yard sales a long time ago. 
[00:05:18] Jeremiah: Yeah. I wonder if like, if the theory that we've jumped, like realities or timelines or whatever, if, like, it just changes everything, every copy. So, but then there's like leaks that I see. I don't know how true they are, but like you'll see a leaked, uh, magazine or news article that has the spelling that you remember, like Berenstein, but mm-hmm.
Yeah, if you go back to like videos or tapes or books, it always seems to like be what it is now. Right. 
[00:05:56] Jeremy: And, um, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I feel like, I feel like they fucked up in reduction once and made the wrong spelling and then it became a huge thing. So they just said, fuck it. We're gonna every, every other order.
We're gonna switch the spelling just to keep people confused 
[00:06:13] Jeremiah: maybe. Well, I heard that they're actually, um, well this is the current theory. They, Barron Stain family is a real family that the books are based after, but I don't know, maybe in this timeline, in alternate 
[00:06:31] Jeremy: reality, they were bears. Yes. In another, in another reality, they were bears that could talk like on Cleveland 
[00:06:35] Jeremiah: show.
So we'll go to the next one here. Uh, chick-fil-A. A lot of people remember that there was no K in Chick-fil-A. Me personally, I don't remember there being a K when Chick-fil-A first came out. So I don't know what you guys remember. 
[00:06:57] Dawn: I don't have any comments because I live in Michigan and we just got Chick-fil-A.
Oh, okay. This year, like last 
[00:07:04] Jeremiah: year, so, mm-hmm. So you've got the K version the whole time. Yes. 
[00:07:09] Erin: I, it didn't have a K in my opinion. 
[00:07:13] Jeremy: I honestly didn't start, I didn't know Chick-fil-A. I didn't know Chick-Fil-A existed until a couple years ago. So I honestly never paid attention. Like I would hear the name, but I never actually saw one until a couple years ago.
So I was just like, all right, I, whatever. Like that's one of those ones where just like, 
[00:07:25] Jeremiah: eh, so we'll move on to the next one. But yeah, I always remember it without the K, cuz I used to be driving and see the billboard and I was like, that's not spelled right. And mm. 
[00:07:40] Dawn: It's more appealing without the K. Yep.
[00:07:43] Jeremiah: Yeah. Yeah. 
[00:07:46] Erin: Even when I spell it, like to put it in my gps, if I'm gonna go there, I'll spell it without the K. 
[00:07:54] Jeremiah: So what do we got next? The, uh, ed McMahon giving the huge publisher's clearinghouse check. Um, Mandela Effect says that never happened, but a lot of people remember Ed McMahon giving out these giant size checks to at people's doors.
And um Yeah, 
[00:08:14] Erin: I remember that because it came with balloons. Yes. Right. 
[00:08:21] Dawn: Like I remember. So I was born in 1974 and I remember That's so good. My parents, um, always doing those little stamps and stuff and sending 'em to the public church's clearing house. You would see the commercials on tv. Ed Mcah with this big check coming to your door with the balloons and people dropped to the floor.
They said that he never delivered a big check, that he was never the person delivering the check. But on TV shows, like Friends Golden Girls, um, I got a few more Gilmore Girls. Um, I even have quotes of them quoting Ed McMahon being, um, with a big check. So, I mean, how many people can be wrong before you say it never 
[00:09:16] Jeremiah: happened?
I know, right? And a lot of these are gonna be like, there's references to them, but they never, it never happened. So yeah, it's like, why were all these references made? But it, the event never happened. I don't know. 
[00:09:33] Dawn: And who would keep up on the, you know, why would writers for TV shows talk about Ed McMahon coming with a big check on their TV shows when, if that never happened?
So, I mean, TV Land, you got it all mixed up with the writing and the flipping back and forth. But I really do think that this is a true Mandel effect. It's like 
[00:10:02] Jeremiah: I do the best. Yeah, I do too. Cuz I totally remember watching TV and yeah, they, he would show up at people's door and they would like freak out and be all happy and they get this huge check.
And now a lot 
[00:10:16] Dawn: of people remember him on Star search, but he was also doing the Publisher's Clearinghouse at the same time as 
[00:10:24] Jeremiah: Star Search. Yeah, it's definitely a strange one. Yes. Um, and I think it's such true, one of my favorite. Yeah, this was another one that really caught my attention for the whole Mendel effect.
I was like, I am 99.99% sure that I saw him give out big checks at people's doors. 
[00:10:48] Dawn: I mean, I have looked on YouTube and Google, and you're just finding more and more people reacting to not finding it. Then you can find a real video. Um, I do belong to like, remember the eighties pages and they'll show like little commercial clips and stuff.
So I'm really hoping I'll see something on somebody's little VHS tape. One day, 
[00:11:16] Jeremiah: maybe there'll be like a little glitch in the Matrix and it'll come through, 
[00:11:20] Erin: right? Somebody record on a VHS and the, you know, the commercial comes through and you see 
[00:11:24] Jeremiah: em. So we'll move along here. Um, here's another one. Flint Stones or Flint Stones.
A lot of people will just remember it with one T in the middle. Yeah, but it's actually spelled Flint stones. No, 
[00:11:44] Jeremy: no. I can hear the freaking theme song in my head. There's no way it's gonna sung like the Flintstones. Like, no, 
[00:11:52] Jeremiah: it can't be. 
[00:11:54] Erin: Well, Flintstone is what makes fire. I mean, I, I get that, but I get it.
I get it, but I don't know if it looks right. 
[00:12:02] Jeremiah: It doesn't look right with the extra tea. To me, it looks 
[00:12:06] Dawn: weird. Yeah. That extra t was not in there. Yeah, I, 
[00:12:12] Erin: that's 
[00:12:12] Jeremiah: so weird. Yeah, that was another show I used to watch all the time. And yeah, I think I would remember that, or I would hope I would. It was after the Jetsons and the Jetsons.
[00:12:23] Dawn: But your brain also does that trick where if you are, um, if you're seeing certain letters, your brain can fill in the other letters for you. So are is that the Mandela effect is our brains just thinking it, that Flint stones, and we're spelling it correctly, but we are kids. We don't even know how to spell them.
But it was just a theory. 
[00:12:52] Jeremiah: Yeah, it could be. It doesn't look right with the two Ts. It really doesn't, it doesn't look like, um, pleasing to the eye. Hmm. No, it looks like it's a mistake. Yeah. Like if I was a marketing person for the Flintstones, I would not put the extra T in there. No. 
[00:13:16] Jeremy: May maybe somebody had the same idea and then they corrected it later on.
They like kind of, what do you call it? Re. Whatever you call it. Retro 
[00:13:25] Jeremiah: rebranded. It. That's not the, 
[00:13:27] Jeremy: that's not the word I'm even think 
[00:13:29] Jeremiah: right now. Um, but maybe it's our minds like, cause you pronounce it flyn stones, or at least I do. Maybe we just assume there was no t cuz we just pronounce it Flintstones.
I don't know. 
[00:13:45] Erin: I'm just trying to think like, did I have any clue with it on there? Like 
[00:13:49] Jeremy: I, I, I'm singing the theme song in my head, like constantly both ways in it. 
I 
[00:13:52] Dawn: know, me too. And I got, got any pictures. I can't think of it having two tees in any way. 
[00:13:59] Erin: It doesn't look like 
[00:14:01] Jeremy: when they, when they sing the theme 
[00:14:02] Erin: song, it sounds, it's so weird.
That's the correct one. 
[00:14:05] Jeremy: When they sing the theme songs, it sounds like they're saying Flints, not 
[00:14:08] Jeremiah: Flints. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a it's a strange one. Yeah. 
[00:14:16] Dawn: It's, that's a crazy one. That's one I never heard of too. 
[00:14:22] Jeremiah: And um, since the Flintstones turned into Fruity Pebbles, we'll change over to Fruit Loops. 
[00:14:33] Erin: I ran to my, my pantry cuz I knew I had some, it freaked me out.
It, that's so 
[00:14:41] Jeremiah: weird. I think the prop, I think the spelling in this reality is fruit, like the actual fruit. But a lot of people, including myself, remember it being F R O O T loops cuz it kind of like matched but I don't think it was ever F R O O T They, they claim never. No, that's what I asked. They claim it was always fruit as in the fruit that you eat.
I was kind of an 
[00:15:08] Dawn: expert staring at the cereal box on the table and I definitely remember it being just fruit. I don't remember the double o's on the fruit, but, Yeah, I do remember to can Sam and, but they've changed that box so many times. I mean, how many times have you stared at a box while eating cereal 
[00:15:33] Jeremiah: and Yeah.
And I think it could be what you said about the last one, like your brain fills in stuff. So maybe as a kid you saw the cereal in the loops part and just added it to the fruit part. 
[00:15:47] Dawn: Yeah. 
[00:15:48] Jeremiah: Hmm. Kind of like a mine trick or whatever. Yeah. I don't know, but me personally, I always thought it was F R O O T loops, but that was never the case.
It 
[00:16:01] Dawn: would make sense for 
[00:16:03] Erin: That's what it is now. 
[00:16:04] Jeremiah: Huh? That's what it is 
[00:16:06] Erin: now. What is R R O O T. 
[00:16:11] Jeremiah: Oh, and this reality's, F R O O T. 
[00:16:16] Dawn: Just going to grab it 
[00:16:17] Jeremy: in this matrix. Yes. 
[00:16:21] Jeremiah: Maybe I have it backwards here. I apologize whoever's listening that I might have this one. Ah,
[00:16:32] Erin: okay. Okay. I looked at it this morning. I'm like, I, I don't remember it like this, but that makes sense with the filling in the, the letters. So 
[00:16:42] Jeremiah: what's the box now say? This is Fruit 
[00:16:45] Erin: loops. F R O O T. 
[00:16:48] Jeremiah: Oh, okay. So it is F R O O T now. So it is what I remember now. Okay. So I don't feel that crazy. 
[00:16:58] Erin: No, 
[00:17:00] Dawn: that's the way I 
[00:17:00] Erin: remember You got one that you, I was trying to get into.
I was, 
[00:17:03] Dawn: I got one expert. Nobody fell for it,
[00:17:09] Jeremiah: so Yeah, it was never spelled fruit as in the fruit that you eat. Right. And I, I messed that up. That's my fault. 
[00:17:18] Erin: You're have some glitches in the matrix with your pointer. I know. Yeah, you fixed. 
[00:17:22] Jeremiah: All right, so we'll move on. Oh, this one's funny. Yeah. The, uh, famous painting of King Henry. Uh, there's a few, you know, there's a amount of people that claim that he was holding a Turkey leg in the famous picture.
Um, he was not wearing or holding a Turkey leg. I honestly don't remember this one, so 
[00:17:47] Jeremy: I, I swear I've seen the one of him holding a Turkey, a chicken leg before. Really? Yeah. I swear I've seen it like, well, maybe there's an ad. I, I feel like I actually heard a story behind this one where the artist actually made that one originally as like a joke and like the King Henry got really pissed and threatened to like, cut off his head, so he quickly made it the other one.
And I think both princes still exist 
[00:18:12] Jeremiah: somewhere. It's possible. Yeah. They tried to scrub the Turkey leg one. I mean, 
[00:18:18] Jeremy: false history is a real thing in this 
[00:18:20] Jeremiah: world, so It is. Yeah. And he was a big guy, so I 
[00:18:26] Dawn: just feel like he was such a mean person though. If somebody did that, he would really cut off their head.
So it does make you wonder what painters were tricksters then, and they like to put in little hidden things and the 
[00:18:43] Jeremiah: artist. Yeah. But I think also like maybe just through, I don't know, cartoons or tv, maybe they've just added the Turkey leg in as kind of like a joke and it just kind of kept in people's minds.
Yeah. I don't know. True. Maybe there's an ad or 
[00:19:02] Erin: something somewhere. 
[00:19:05] Jeremiah: But yeah, there are a group of people who. Swear that he was holding to Turkey legs. So like I said, I don't know one way or the other. I know the picture, but I don't remember like what it looked like. I don't remember that 
[00:19:19] Dawn: one. 
[00:19:19] Jeremiah: Go one. All right.
Onto another really popular Mandela effect. Mm-hmm. And that is Jiff, uh, peanut butter. And a lot of people remember it as Jiffy Peanut butter, but it was never Jiffy. It was always Jiff. I personally always thought it was Jiffy, but that's just me. I 
[00:19:45] Dawn: always thought it was Jiffy. I always thought it was Jiffy too.
[00:19:51] Erin: I thought maybe until a few years ago when I saw it, I was like, what is this? It's just 
[00:19:55] Dawn: maybe in the nineties, two thousands it switched over to g I remember when they had like the big commercials, gif and cuz they had a competitor. Skippy or something. Skippy. Skippy. Yeah. And, um, 
[00:20:11] Erin: well, that's what people think.
That is Skippy and Jiffy. Oh, good point. Say it like that. 
[00:20:17] Jeremiah: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Maybe our, uh, adolescents brains just crossed them over.
But then there's also the theory that there was that popcorn Jiffy Pop mm-hmm. Yep. That you did over the stove, Jiffy Lube. Mm-hmm. So they, they say that people just confuse the Jiffy Pop Popcorn, but I don't know why you would confuse popcorn with peanut butter. I hate 
[00:20:46] Dawn: peanut butter, and I still remember it being fy.
Just Jiffy. 
[00:20:53] Erin: I remember my grandparents having Jiffy. 
[00:20:56] Jeremiah: I don't mind peanut butter, but I'm not a big peanut butter mix with chocolate person. And everyone thinks I'm crazy for that, but I don't know, I just don't like it mixed together. I 
[00:21:07] Dawn: love it all. 
[00:21:10] Jeremiah: But every now and then I'll get a craving for, and I'll get like a, a Reese's Cup or whatever.
I don't know. Oh man. 
But 
[00:21:17] Jeremy: they got the Reese's Cups now with like potato chips and pretzels in. They're freaking 
[00:21:19] Jeremiah: amazing. Yeah, I see that. I'm like, man, what are they gonna put in next?
They're gonna make Reese and the snack within 
[00:21:30] Erin: a snack.
[00:21:34] Jeremiah: All right, so next one. This one Dawn brought to my attention, um, and it was, uh, what's his name? Balu. Yeah. Yeah, blue from the Jungle Book. A lot of people remember him having a coconut bra. But yeah, that never happened according to our reality now. Yes it did. 
[00:21:58] Dawn: So according to reality, people, he was actually only wearing the coconut beak and a yellow skirt.
But everybody remembers him the other way. But we have proof on this one. We have found proof. The editor, the guy Floyd Norman Animator that worked on the original Jungle Book says otherwise he did a big interview in things you don't know about the Jungle Book and an article he wrote full of dark and mysterious stuff.
He did talk about some of the things on there. I don't know how much we can say on here, but back then, you know, to be bisexual or anything like that in Disney. Disney at that time was taboo. So the writer thought it would be funny to make fun of Crossdressers and that's why they wanted a male character belu to where the coconut bra is like a haha moment.
So that's what the interview was all about. Yeah, it's actually pretty interesting when you read it all, but I love the Jungle book growing up and I remember the coconut raw. So for them to go and take it out and the animator himself say, no, we made it with the bra. I don't know why it's not on now. That is something for me.
That's wild. 
[00:23:41] Erin: Yeah. Yeah. 
[00:23:42] Jeremy: I mean, I didn't know this one, but Disney is famous for Reconning thing. Oh. Which, that's where I was trying to think of earlier to recon. Yeah. But Disney's famous for that. I mean, Walt Disney's frozen heads in a freaking drawer somewhere telling them what to do still. 
[00:23:54] Jeremiah: Oh yeah. Like that Simpsons episode.
They're 
[00:23:57] Dawn: crazy. It's just 
[00:23:59] Erin: boggling my mind. I remember at the end like he did it so that he could distract King Louis and the monkeys. Yeah. And like they found him out because the bra fell off and the, and the skirt. Like, 
[00:24:11] Dawn: I know there's no, and now trying, there was no bras. So weird. And I'm like, what you, what do you mean just a coconut beak?
He had the coconut. We don't have to go ate slippers. And I remember it with his beak like that, but I remember the. I do too. And there's also pictures on, I'm a Disney junkie, so going to Disney, and they have pictures of them with Belu, with the bran in Disney World. So 
[00:24:45] Jeremiah: y'all always remember him dancing and they were like, Jing, as funny as that sounds.
But like, uh, a whole nother show is the Disney conspiracies. Like, uh, oh my God. Like all the subliminal messages they put in Disney movies back in the nineties or eighties or whatever. There are so 
[00:25:10] Dawn: many, 
[00:25:11] Jeremiah: so many. Oh God. I mean, 
[00:25:13] Jeremy: lion King is basically a, uh, world War II story almost. 
[00:25:17] Jeremiah: Yeah, I heard they actually stole the Lion King story from something else.
[00:25:21] Jeremy: I mean, oh, oh, they did. Um, they stole from shit. I know it, it's. It's some famous African, like, uh, legend fable. But yeah, but I mean, yeah, scars Army is basically just an supposed to be a Nazi army the way they march, the way they chant and everything. 
[00:25:38] Jeremiah: Oh yeah, that does make sense. But yeah, this one is trippy too, cuz I totally remember that coconut bra.
But hey, in this, this timeline not a thing. No. So we'll go on now. This one blew my mind too. The kit cat having the hyphen between the kit and the cat, supposedly that never happened, but I, I don't think it did. I don't think it did. I totally remember. I think it did too. 
[00:26:07] Erin: I remember. Don't 
[00:26:08] Jeremiah: definitely, I don't remember there be a hyphen ever.
See, I do. You 
[00:26:13] Erin: don't remember the hyphen. 
[00:26:14] Jeremy: And I'm a fat kid. I kick hats like 
[00:26:15] Jeremiah: crazy. 
[00:26:19] Erin: I, I remember the hyphen. Me too. Me too. I think this one blew my mind a couple years ago, ho 
[00:26:27] Dawn: For sure. Because it makes sense cuz it was two words. And so back then to use two words with proper English on tv, you were gonna use your, your hyphens and your pronunciations correctly.
And I think that was, I think there was a dash, they took it out later. I think a lot of this changed in the two thousands. 
[00:26:56] Jeremiah: Well, supposedly it was never that way. We just remember it being that way. Yeah. But I always remember there being a hyphen and um, once I heard about this, uh, Mandela effect, I had to go to like the local gas station and grab a bar cuz I was like, I gotta see this.
And sure enough there was no hyphen there. And I was like, mind blown. And I always thought it was the hyphenated. Yeah. Cuz it's like you break them off, it's like, give me a break of your kick bar. So, I don't know. Right. It could, it could just be my, I remember the hyphen could just be the whole, uh, brain trick of adding stuff or making stuff make sense.
I don't know. 
[00:27:45] Dawn: Ca cat, to me that just sounds like you're snapping something, you know, breaking it apart. And to me to break it apart, I would need that dash in between my words to break it up. Right. That's how it makes sense to my brain. 
[00:28:00] Jeremiah: Yeah. But Jeremy doesn't remember that way. So like I said, a lot of these, there are, there are some people, and I have a theory for that I can get into it after we get through all these.
Hmm. But, um, yeah. So we'll move right along here. Here's a big one too. Looney Tunes. Um, yep. A lot of people remember the loo or the tunes in Looney Tunes to be t o o n S, like cartoons, but it's actually never been that. It's been t u n e s like music. I, 
[00:28:38] Jeremy: I always remembered it being t u n e s. Like I always remember that being the case cuz they sang a lot.
So that's why I always thought of it as, 
[00:28:46] Jeremiah: yeah, this one, I remember it like, my brain wants it to be t o o n s. Like cartoons. That's, yeah. But I understand why it's tunes because there was a lot of music and they played music, uh, in the beginning, the. But I always remember it. T O O N S. 
[00:29:05] Erin: But I also remember it like that because if you remember in Roger Rabbit, they had Toontown and that was T O O N S.
And that was the tunes. All the tunes were from Dune Town. They're driving. And that was the Loony Tunes. Remember that? You're right. So when they went into the other area, that's kind of what they did with Looney Tunes too. They would go into the other dimension and that's where the Looney tunes were.
Right. So, I don't know, that's, I always remember the T O O N S because of that. Hmm. 
[00:29:35] Dawn: My brain wants it 
[00:29:37] Jeremiah: to be, and me and a friend at work, were just talking about Roger Rabbit yesterday, which is funny. We were talking about the uh, gun with the different bullets that were like Indian and Mexican and a cowboy or whatever.
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, yeah. But yeah, I think this is just, this could just be a common mistake. Like you're thinking cartoons cuz it's a cartoon. I think they changed it. And they could have changed it too. I think they, I dunno. And then scrubbed all the, uh, tunes off of the interview 
[00:30:07] Dawn: that've been a hard one to do.
But if you go back in time and a timeline and change something, I mean, that's a whole nother show. But if you do go back and change something, it's going to change everything else. See says 
[00:30:23] Erin: Tune Town. Mm-hmm. Like this is an old Yeah, I remember too. That's where I was thinking
because some of them were there cuz like there was Mickey and there's um, the Pig is up there. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yep. Quirky pig. That's Bunny. See that? So why would they, why 
[00:30:46] Dawn: would it be Loo maybe Remember Tune The maybe is because of the Roger Rabbit movie having Tune Town. 
[00:30:52] Erin: I remember it. I remember it just t o o n s.
When the New Space Jam came out and I saw that spelling, I was like, what's going on? That's not how you spell that. So 
[00:31:06] Dawn: yeah, I know. My kid brain wants to tell me that it was always t o o n 
[00:31:12] Jeremiah: s. Yeah. Yes, him. 
[00:31:15] Dawn: So that's where I'm at and I'm at, 
[00:31:20] Jeremiah: all right, so the next Mandela effect is the Monopoly guy. And a lot of people remember him having a monocle, and according to this reality, he never had a monocle.
But I think about that Ace Ventura movie, and he knocks out that guy at the party and he has a monocle on, and at the end of the. Scene he does the monopoly do not pass, go do not collect $200. So it's one of those things, again, where Hollywood talks about it, but yet it never existed. So what's the deal?
[00:32:03] Erin: Well, they say that I think it, I think it did exist. I think you're right. I think you just proved it right there with that scene. Like why would they, why they, would they make that scene if it didn't ever have a Yeah. Like some of the, that's 
[00:32:18] Jeremiah: silly. Yeah. Some of the Hollywood, uh, programs that talk about these Mandela effects, like why would they just make that up or come up with that, like from nowhere?
It just doesn't make sense. Right. Like the Ed 
[00:32:34] Erin: McMahon thinking Clearing house, like they can't change movies then. Like maybe they can't change film. They can change pictures. How, and they can change objects that are 2d. Right. So I don't know. 
[00:32:43] Dawn: Well, I, I brought up a point the other day. Um, How is it that so many people, but they're from all over the world.
It's not just right here in the United States. It's everywhere in in so many places. So it can't be a case of like mass hysteria or illusions because we're all in different places remembering the same things, the same events, or items that are changed or it can't be. So many people remember it and then they changed it and think that they didn't change her memory, but I think.
I don't know. I think it's crazy that so many people can all remember something. 
[00:33:37] Jeremiah: Yeah. Cuz you would think if, um, you would think if someone said, Hey, remember Jiffy Peanut butter? If the majority of people, if it was always just Jiff, you would think the majority of people would be like, no, you're crazy. It was Jif like, but you have a massive amount of people saying like, yeah, I remember it this way, but it's not that way.
Mm-hmm. And like you said, all around the country, all around the world, same story. And it, it 
[00:34:08] Dawn: could be something that they don't even, um, it could be like a can of Pringles, just a regular can of Pringles. And let's say they dropped the s on ours in the United States, but. Somebody over there in Europe still had the S on their can.
And then a year later it was dropped and then they're like, well, wait a minute. We don't have it no more either. And then other parts of the world are doing it too. What if it's happening at a slower pace for everybody? Or do you think we're all catching on at the same time? Because it has been something that's kind of been just recognized over the last few 
[00:34:54] Jeremiah: years.
So my theory is that our reality has merged with another reality and through that merging some people from the previous reality shifted over and then other people stayed, if that makes any sense. Yeah. So like the people that remember him without a monocle are from the one reality. And then the people I remember with the monocle were from the different reality that merged over.
So it's like a leftover thing. Right, right. 
[00:35:33] Dawn: Yeah. I like that theory. 
[00:35:35] Jeremiah: Okay. So it's like, and like the merging of realities, like a lot of people would think, well, no, you would realize, but not necessarily if it's very septal, sub septal, I can't say that word changes subtle then. And if it happens in like, you know, a nanosecond, you would never know.
Like 
[00:35:57] Erin: a reset button 
[00:35:59] Jeremiah: boop. Yeah, like hitting a reset button. And 
[00:36:03] Dawn: it makes you wonder the space programs they're doing, are they doing something? Uh, are they testing time right now? 
[00:36:13] Jeremiah: The cern? I think so. And I think cern. 
[00:36:17] Jeremy: Yeah, I was sayer. They kind of open a wormhole with that one, literally. So, yeah. Who knows?
Yeah. I mean, do, do you want, do you wanna go the upside down? That's how you start the upside down. Yeah. 
[00:36:27] Dawn: Yes. I know, I do. 
[00:36:28] Erin: You hear about them saying something about the, the core being different now or something? That they actually went to the course? Yes. Like why are you even going down? Do you know what happens when you put a wedge into a round thing like
[00:36:42] Jeremiah: I did. See, 
[00:36:44] Jeremy: that's why I, the, yeah. 
Flat 
[00:36:46] Jeremiah: earthers. Oh, sorry. 
[00:36:48] Jeremy: It's all good. It's all good. Uh, but that, that's why the flat earthers now believe the earth looks like a hotdog. If you haven't seen that picture on Facebook, you will. That's 
[00:36:57] Jeremiah: funny. I, I'll be waiting for that one, but we'll move along here. Let's see.
Oscar Mayer Or Oscar Meyer, or, yeah. Oscar Mayer. I should have found, 
[00:37:11] Erin: I have Mayer. I have an Oscar Meyer Wiener Whistle. I should go find it somewhere, but I 
[00:37:17] Jeremy: so actually wait. Oh, no. Yeah, it's mi, it's Meyer. I mean, there's a fucking song and it doesn't say Oscar may o It doesn't say May. It just says 
[00:37:23] Erin: Meyer.
M e y e r. Yeah. I remember the song like, you remember the song? Yeah. I'm 
[00:37:30] Dawn: singing it. 
[00:37:32] Erin: It was definitely not m a y e r. I don't, 
[00:37:35] Jeremiah: so in this reality, it's Oscar Mayer, a y e r, but Oscar Mayer Meyer. Oscar Meyer, m m e y e r is what most people remember because of, like you said, that song. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's so good because o if you, if you do that song and put Mayer in it doesn't sound right.
M a y e r. No. And believe me, I liked eating my bologna sandwiches and 
[00:38:10] Erin: all 
[00:38:11] Dawn: fried and potato chips. 
[00:38:14] Jeremiah: Yes. 
[00:38:15] Erin: Yes. With 
[00:38:16] Jeremy: mustard. Throw some bologna and pepperoni in the freaking microwave with some cheese on it. Mm. Goddamn damn good. God damn good. The ese is up, so swear, God. Oh, I know. 
[00:38:28] Jeremiah: But yeah, I think we're unanimous in this one.
That it was M e y e r. Yeah. Yeah, because it just, like I said, with that song and being around this product pretty much my whole life, I don't remember it ever being mayor. I mean body, not unless John May suddenly endorsed it. That's 
so 
[00:38:48] Erin: weird. So the the body is not a wonderland and you're talking about John Mayer.
Okay, 
[00:38:57] Jeremiah: so next one we've got is Pikachu. Everyone loves the little cute Pikachu guy. So a lot of people remember Pikachu having black on his tail, either on the tip or in the center. But CJ but does not have black in his tail. Totally. Yes, cj. Yes he did. He totally did. Did 
[00:39:17] Dawn: I think we all played My daughter, 
[00:39:20] Jeremy: I remember it.
My daughter has two stuff. Has two stuff. Pikachu animals in her room right now. I can go get, and I guarantee they both have black on the tail. 
[00:39:28] Jeremiah: Well, according to the this reality, he did not have black on skin. I wanna see
[00:39:36] Jeremy: god damn Japanese fucking with the timeline. I know 
[00:39:39] Jeremiah: they're going background. Yeah, they probably helped with cern, but I know 
[00:39:46] Jeremy: it's probably a thing between them and 
[00:39:47] Jeremiah: Russia. I remember the black, I remember. I totally remember the black tail. Yeah, because it just looked right. Yeah. It doesn't look right without the black on the tail.
Mm-hmm. It just seems outta place. Yeah. So that, that's a big one. And there's a lot of like super hardcore Pokemon fans that like, swear it had a black tail. It did. 
[00:40:13] Jeremy: I watched Pokemon for like two years in middle school. Like it definitely had a black tail. I'm trying to 
[00:40:18] Erin: remember cuz I had, I remember in Burger King, I think it was Burger King had like the gold cards, like the 24 Kara Pokemon cards.
Oh yes, yes. In the in the po. I have mine somewhere, like it's packed away. But I remember like, cause it was a gold card, but I remember there being like the lines at the end, like where the tail would be black. You know what I mean? Like I remember, so 
[00:40:42] Jeremy: see Aaron was one of the smart kids who 
[00:40:44] Erin: kept everything.
I 
[00:40:45] Dawn: did. Yes. Yeah. Is it because our minds want us to see a reality where it makes sense? So like Yeah, it's a hundred percent 
[00:40:55] Jeremiah: what it is. I mean that's what 
[00:40:58] Dawn: for us to make sense of it, like it would be black. So it would, that would work. But what if it was really, really just hypothetical question? Really, really just a yellow tail, and all of us in our minds are trying to make it black, 
[00:41:17] Erin: but why would all of us doing illuminating?
[00:41:19] Jeremy: Like, because the Illuminati puts all these fake images out there to fuck with our heads, so we don't see what's going on in the real world. That's why it's, it's a goddamn 
[00:41:31] Jeremiah: illuminati. Yeah. And I wonder if the whole Mandela effect thing, I mean, I believe it, but like I wonder if it's just a form of distraction too.
Mm-hmm. 
[00:41:43] Jeremy: Oh, 800% is everything is nowadays, yes. I mean, everything's a distraction 
[00:41:47] Jeremiah: because like I said, it was first coined in 2009, but I think around 2012 is when it became like super popular and that's when they rebooted cern. So I was like, mm-hmm. 
[00:42:00] Dawn: Oh, 
[00:42:00] Erin: yep. Cool. One said down. Yeah, 2012 is, I think that's when all that.
Yep. 
[00:42:05] Jeremiah: I agree. All right, next one. We're going to the movies. Risky business with, uh, Tom Cruise when he danced sunglasses in his Yep. Sunglasses. That's what people remember. But he never had sunglasses. He didn't, 
[00:42:22] Jeremy: cause I just, I, I just watched this movie recently. There was no sunglasses. But 
[00:42:26] Dawn: do you remember watching it as a child and him sliding out with sunglasses?
Before 
[00:42:31] Jeremy: my time? Before 
[00:42:32] Dawn: my time. Oh, show. Not before my climb. I loved him. I remember him sliding out in iGlasses. I know the cover of the, the movie has him with glasses like down or something. But even my husband dressed up like him for a party. We did. That's so funny. 
So 
[00:42:52] Jeremiah: can you guys paint? Can you guys see this screen?
[00:42:56] Erin: All of it Have 
[00:42:57] Jeremiah: sunglasses. Look how many people have sunglasses? Ooh. As Halloween costumes. 
[00:43:05] Erin: Because he flings 'em. Didn't he fling 'em or something like, like he That's what I thought. Flings '
[00:43:09] Dawn: em. Yeah. I just remember sunglasses and That's so weird. I didn't know this. This 
[00:43:18] Erin: one's kinda bugging me. They're saying he didn't have some glasses.
Like I said, this is so crazy. So 
this 
[00:43:25] Dawn: is one of these people can That I've 
[00:43:27] Jeremiah: noticed. Yeah. Why is everyone putting that as their Halloween costume if there was no sunglasses? 
[00:43:33] Jeremy: I think cuz so many other Mo other movies and so many TV shows, T Troped off of it and they all wore sunglasses in those. But I remember, 
[00:43:41] Erin: I think rolling the 
[00:43:41] Dawn: sunglasses, TV shows use just like what, uh, ed McMahon.
Why would they quote things that weren't there? 
[00:43:51] Erin: There's so many things have ripped 
[00:43:53] Dawn: off this good one. This is one of the Ed McMahon 
[00:43:57] Jeremiah: ones. It's like good ones. This is, yeah. This is a trippy one. Mm-hmm. And that All right. Uh, 
[00:44:02] Jeremy: Jeremiah. Jeremiah, I do have to go 
[00:44:04] Jeremiah: though, buddy. Yeah, no problem. 
[00:44:06] Jeremy: Thank you for having me on.
I'll 
[00:44:08] Jeremiah: talk to you soon. Yep. Thanks for coming on. Hey, nice to meet you ladies. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. So we're gonna move on. We're gonna stay in Hollywood here. This one, there's sex in the city or sex in the city 
[00:44:24] Dawn: in And so the, just this, I was just trying to be opposite. No, but I've always heard sex in 
[00:44:34] Jeremiah: the city.
In this reality it's sex. And the city. Not in the city. Right. 
[00:44:40] Dawn: But I've always heard it as the other way. 
[00:44:43] Jeremiah: Tons of people swear that it was sex in the city because that makes more sense. Yeah, because they're in the city, they're doing the sex thing, you know, and Right. It just makes sense. Sex and the city just doesn't make sense.
Yeah. 
[00:44:59] Dawn: Yeah. My husband used to watch his show. I did not, and he remembers it being Sex in the City. I asked him about this one and he was like, no, I used to watch it cuz the girls were hot. And he was like, it was in the city. 
[00:45:16] Erin: My mom watched it. That's how I remember. 
[00:45:19] Jeremiah: And I, yeah, I always remember it. Cuz then didn't they come out with the movie after?
[00:45:25] Dawn: It was years later, but 
[00:45:28] Jeremiah: was, yeah, they came out with the movie. Yeah. I totally remember Sex in the City. But that's another one that they, when we uh, jump timelines, 
[00:45:40] Erin: I'm looking at it, it just doesn't even look right. It look crazy. It doesn't look right. It doesn't, no, that's not right. That's not true. That's so 
[00:45:51] Jeremiah: funny.
So next we have, back to cartoons. We've got Shaggy from, he doesn't have an Adams apple. Did he do in this reality? He does not have an Adams apple, but I swear he had an Adams apple. I swear 
[00:46:09] Dawn: he always did because he had the, he was the goofy gold. He would like, 
[00:46:15] Jeremiah: he would do the gulp when he got scared, he would 
[00:46:17] Erin: do, sorry, do my mind, I didn't know this one, 
[00:46:23] Jeremiah: right?
What? 
[00:46:24] Dawn: I didn't know This one. I'm actually write this one down my notes cuz it's a really good one. I like that one. 
[00:46:32] Jeremiah: How? Yeah. Everyone I've told this to like, that's weird. It blows their mind. Yeah. That 
[00:46:36] Erin: just, yeah. Yeah. This one, it just blew mine. Wow. 
[00:46:39] Dawn: For sure. Yeah, 
[00:46:41] Jeremiah: because the picture on the right without the Adams apple doesn't even look right either.
Like it. Right. 
[00:46:47] Erin: That's like too long. So,
[00:46:52] Jeremiah: oh, that's so, and like I said, whenever he got scared, I remember the Adam's apple going like up and down when he gold. Yes. 
[00:46:58] Erin: Yes. That's what I remember 
[00:46:59] Jeremiah: too. So this one, yeah. Really. That's so weird. Blew my mind. Where 
[00:47:04] Erin: are we living? Where are reality? It's like what
[00:47:10] Jeremiah: everything I knew is wrong. 
[00:47:14] Erin: It's, it's really, um, I'm trying to think of the word. It's interesting. It makes me unnerving, 
[00:47:20] Dawn: like 
[00:47:23] Jeremiah: Yeah. It makes me question my whole life. Everything. 
[00:47:26] Dawn: Right? Doesn't it? I mean, even our toys. Are affected. I've seen examples of toys. Even it's, it's toys and cartoons. Nothing sexy.
[00:47:41] Erin: It's Well, cause I think we're not gonna remember cuz we're 
[00:47:43] Jeremiah: kids. Yeah. Or they, or they can um, just say, oh, it's just your bad memory cuz you were our kid. Right. They can write it off. Thank you. You grew 
[00:47:57] Dawn: up in a bad time. You don't remember? Oh. 
[00:48:01] Jeremiah: Oh, this one? Yeah. Here's another, this one. Here's another huge one.
Um, and my best friend, uh, messaged me, or no, I messaged him. I was like, yo, remember that movie with Sinbad cuz Shaza? He's like, yeah, that was cool. And I was like, it never existed. He's like, no. Wait, what? I was like, no. They had, uh, I think it's Kazam with Shaquille O'Neill. Where he was like a genie type thing.
Yeah. That was the years after. But a lot of people, including myself, remember Simba being a genie in a movie. Absolutely. I called Shaan 
[00:48:40] Erin: Shaan. 
[00:48:40] Dawn: I thought I seen it. I thought I seen the movie. I remember me and my husband talked about that also. I'm like, I remember he was a genie up in the attic with two kids and they were like rubbed the lamp.
And he came out and he was like, you get one wish. And they were like, we thought we got three. And like I thought I remembered the whole movie and 
[00:49:05] Erin: I saw a thing. How do I remember he was threatening people and stuff. Like it was kind of crazy. I don't know if you've seen that, but I did. He's like, 
[00:49:14] Jeremiah: oh, still upset.
Like harassing him to admit that he was in the movie. 
[00:49:20] Erin: Well, I asked something, were even admitted. He was, he was like, heard up, like he was doing hard drugs or something. Like he was, it was a bad time in his life when he decided to do this for the money. Like, I, I thought I had like, swear, I, I saw a video about that.
Um, probably taken down by now, this was years ago when I first saw that this never existed. So, yeah. Yeah. I, I definitely remember this movie. I was, like I said, I'm a Disney nerd. I used to listen or watch Disney. That's what I did. And this was always on. 
[00:49:54] Dawn: Yep. I just feel like it was all, I thought it came out in the nineties or two thousands.
[00:50:00] Erin: I don't remember. It was definitely in the nineties. 
[00:50:04] Jeremiah: Hold on, let me see. Yeah, Chuck. Oh, well now they have the new 
[00:50:10] Erin: s i I know, I know. I saw that and was like, oh my goodness. They're trying to cover it up with making a new 
[00:50:16] Jeremiah: movie. When did it come out? Let's see. I want to guess like 98. Oh no, wait, this can't be right.
It says 2017 because I remember Sinbad was the pirate as well, but that was completely different. 
[00:50:32] Erin: See, it says nineties. I saw it's a nineties movie, 
[00:50:37] Jeremiah: but Kazam with Shaquille O'Neal came out in 1996, so maybe it was 90. That had to have been in the 
[00:50:41] Erin: nineties. 4 92. Like, yeah, between 92 and 94. I think that's my, I guess, 
[00:50:48] Jeremiah: yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
I, I was in the nineties. Yeah, it says right here, fans grew up and swear up and down that the nineties movie Shazam. Yeah. 
[00:50:59] Erin: Early nineties. Yeah. I mean, look at, look and I totally production. It looks early nineties. Yeah, I 
[00:51:05] Jeremiah: know. And um, like I said, I, I messaged my friend and I blew his mind because I was like, oh yeah, remember this movie?
It was like, yeah. And I was like, Doesn't exist. It never happened. 
[00:51:21] Dawn: Like how? 
[00:51:23] Jeremiah: Well it didn't happen in this reality, in this reality in my previous reality. So then we've got some music business here. Oh, what 
[00:51:30] Erin: uh, is this 
[00:51:33] Jeremiah: Britney Spears in the song? Oops, I did it again. People swear that she was dancing with a plaid skirt, but she was actually in a black, completely black skirt.
What? And I remember the plaid skirt so great. 
[00:51:48] Dawn: But cause 
[00:51:49] Erin: there was this girl look 
[00:51:51] Dawn: up, she dressed up at for Halloween a couple years ago as her character from that Ann wore, I believe it's the one right here on the left that you're showing Jeremiah 
[00:52:05] Jeremiah: the plaid. Yeah. The one on the left was her Halloween a 
[00:52:08] Dawn: couple years ago.
Yeah. So why would she even remember herself wearing a plaid skirt? And the internet says no black. 
[00:52:16] Jeremiah: There's another Britney Spears one for 
[00:52:19] Erin: her. Oops. I did it again to her. What is she wearing? Yeah, A plaid skirt. 
[00:52:26] Dawn: I mean, every, all the girls were trying to dress like Britney at the time, and the other one was this one with the microphone.
Yeah, that's what I 
[00:52:36] Jeremiah: just called it. And oops, I 
[00:52:38] Dawn: did 
[00:52:38] Jeremiah: it again. Yeah. There was a headset, um, uh, people swear up and down that she was wearing a headset in this music video, but in this re in this reality, she was not. Well, I see it up. 
[00:52:52] Erin: It's right there. Top right. 
[00:52:54] Dawn: I'm right. 
[00:52:55] Jeremiah: But they have toys with No, for 
[00:52:57] Erin: real.
So why would they, that's bugging me out. What? Because I remember watching, I was like, oh, that's so Sophia touristic. She got a, she got a microphone. Cuz I, I like the saying I'm a singer, so, What they're saying. That was never, there was no microphone. 
[00:53:13] Jeremiah: They're saying it never happened. That it was just like that.
[00:53:16] Dawn: No, I don't remember that. I remember 'em 
[00:53:20] Erin: blowing 
[00:53:21] Dawn: my mind, but Brittany is always in some kind of something, so who knows what they're doing to her. 
[00:53:30] Jeremiah: But just like that Tom Cruise thing. Yeah. You had a ton of people dress up as her for Halloween and they're all wearing the headset, so Yes. Why are a massive amount of people remembering that that one was kind of crazy too.
It 
[00:53:48] Dawn: is. It's cool to have a double Britney conspiracy. I like it. 
[00:53:53] Erin: Right. 
[00:53:53] Jeremiah: That's cool. All right, so the last Mandela effect for, uh, this, uh, go, go round. Would be, oh, star Wars. Star Wars. Um, C3 po. The Android. He has a silver leg in this reality. But many people remember him just being solid gold, which I remember him being solid gold, but nope, that wa that's not the case in this, uh, timeline.
So 
[00:54:29] Dawn: when it came out, when I was a kid, I hate that I'm so old, but I remember a lot of this stuff coming out because TV was like, we had like five channels legit, and then we got each wheel and on and it, and those were our like, premium cables. And that's where we would see this at if you couldn't go to the movies and yeah, I remember the gold.
[00:54:55] Erin: I re I remember it being all gold. It's, it just, what is that? It doesn't even look right at 
[00:55:01] Dawn: all. When you research receive what the director said about it? No. Okay. I'll have to do that. I'll have to 
[00:55:10] Erin: research that. It's, it doesn't like, it doesn't even look right. Like I was thinking maybe like's outta place.
Do you remember space balls? Like, you know how they have the character? Oh yes. Like, that's what it reminds me of, like, you know, a spoof thing that doesn't look like the real Star Wars character. Mm-hmm. 
[00:55:28] Jeremiah: Yeah. It looks fake. It does. Like, it's, it's outta place. Doesn't even 
[00:55:32] Erin: remember if they are hitting off a little spoof movie.
I didn't see this one until this morning and I was, I was, blew my mind. Cuz it just doesn't, it doesn't even look right at all. 
[00:55:45] Jeremiah: I had more pictures, but I don't know where they went. Oh, here's one. I don't think we got to this one. I. Uh, we'll do this one as a bonus. Okay. The Mona Lisa, a lot of people remember that she was barely smiling at all, but now she has like an actual grin and I always remember her having barely any smile and you kind of had to be at the right angle or look at it to, to see a smile.
And that was the whole like mystery of it was like, is she sad or is she happy? And 
[00:56:21] Dawn: I mean, they've wrote songs Chill about Mona Lisa Smile saying how she doesn't have one. Like Mona Lisa Lost her Smile. And um, a few other songs that I've seen that they wrote about it. But I agree, she never had a smile.
You've always had a look at it at a certain angle to see the smirk. 
[00:56:45] Erin: It's 
[00:56:45] Jeremiah: trippy. That's what I thought. Because I remember going not to like the Louv or anything. That's so weird. Yeah. But I remember going an art class to like a local museum and they had like a replica of it or whatever. Mm-hmm. And I remember the teacher being like, walk around the picture, cuz you'll see her smirking or being sad depending where you're standing.
Hmm. So yeah, this one got me a little bit too. 
[00:57:16] Erin: Yeah. Yeah, that's really right. Like that's what they taught us in, in art class. That's so weird that I know. That's really 
[00:57:24] Jeremiah: weird. I like that one. But yeah, I think that was the end of that. Uh, let me see, uh, where am I? Okay, there we go. So we're back without the chair screen.
Um, but yeah, it's a crazy theory. Um, I'll do a part two, bring people back on and go over more, cuz there's a lot more. So, oh yeah, I'll have more pictures ready for that. And I just wanted to touch on it, do a part one and, um, I think we did differ on a few, but a lot of 'em, we were, you know, on the same page and mm-hmm.
Some of 'em, everyone was on the same page, so it's so interesting. It's, uh, it is, it's a wild topic 
[00:58:19] Erin: too, so it's, it's, I'm glad, 
[00:58:21] Dawn: uh, I'll have to send you some of my notes over here that, so you can grab pictures for 'em. Some of the good ones that I got. Sure. Like the Nike Jumpman. Do you got that one? No.
Okay. So the Nike effect, the logo, there's a Mandela about the man. Is he, he's wearing pants, but a lot of people don't remember him always wearing long pants. Um, the iconic picture was taken in 1984 of him doing one of his jump shots wearing pants. But all of us older people remember him doing that when they first came out with the Nike man.
It was in shorts, mean the air 
[00:59:11] Erin: Jordan. Like the Air Jordan symbol? Yeah. Oh. 
[00:59:15] Dawn: So the man 
[00:59:17] Jeremiah: I always remember baggy shorts, right? 
[00:59:19] Erin: Like basketball shorts. See, I 
[00:59:20] Dawn: remember the shorts too. Yeah. Like basketball shorts. So now they changed it to pants for Oh wow. What? 
[00:59:27] Erin: So that's a man. That's weird. That's a good idea. So now, 
[00:59:30] Dawn: yeah, so now he's wearing the pants and not the shorts.
[00:59:35] Jeremiah: Yeah. I've got a lot more, uh, for next time. For sure. And like I said, it's a while. Yeah. 
[00:59:41] Dawn: There's one on Nintendo Gaming Systems. You should 
[00:59:44] Erin: do too. 
[00:59:46] Jeremiah: Oh yeah, definitely. Uh, I like games. So, but like, I don't know how to take The whole theory is like, why is it just, well maybe it's not just, but it feels like it's always like music tv.
Mm-hmm. Tainment, uh, brands. Is that true? I wonder if there's anything else that's been affected, but we just don't pay attention to it. 
[01:00:13] Dawn: Is that why we're having so much more natural disasters? And we 
[01:00:19] Erin: had, we had the body part thing too, to talk about.
[01:00:25] Dawn: I mean, it just leads into so many different things. It's interesting. I love all 
[01:00:32] Jeremiah: of that. So my theory is, and I touched on it a little bit earlier, but I think in 2012 when they've rebooted cern, it. Split our reality. And I think some people got stuck in the reality that we left and some people were already in this reality.
We just don't know. It's like, I don't know on a quantum physics level that I can't explain cuz I'm not a scientist. But, um, I think that's why some people remember things some way and then other people remembered a different way. Cause maybe we're from two different realities. We're just merged together at this point.
[01:01:18] Erin: It's 
[01:01:18] Dawn: a little, but I like, I love it. Yeah. 
[01:01:21] Erin: I love it. I I'm gonna be like it playing around with this in my head for a lot. 
[01:01:27] Jeremiah: Mm-hmm. But yeah, definitely would like to have you guys back on for part. Absolutely. Thank you 
[01:01:32] Erin: so much for having me. I really appreciate it. 
[01:01:36] Dawn: It's been too fun. I had a great time.
[01:01:39] Jeremiah: Thanks for coming on and, um, I'll have this out. Next, not this coming Monday, but the Monday after. Cool. Okay. And um, yeah, we'll do in part two whenever everyone's available and go over a lot more of mind blowing, man, that love effects. 
[01:01:56] Erin: Love it. Sounds good. 
[01:01:57] Jeremiah: Yeah. Can't wait. Well, enjoy the rest of your weekend and be safe and don't jump timelines.
[01:02:05] Dawn: I won't. I'll try to remember 
[01:02:06] Erin: this. I'll just go close the portal in my clo closet right now. Okay.
[01:02:13] Jeremiah: Oh, real quick, before you leave, and I know dawn's into ghost investigation and stuff, do you see the, uh, Brazil thing where like 28 students or whatever got sent to the hospital after playing with the Ouija board? Yes, I did not. Yes. I want to cover that. 
[01:02:31] Dawn: I think that is mass hysteria, kinda like what happened in Salem with the witches where everybody just like, Goes crazy.
So I think one kid got scared and nervous and then the other kids feel the nervousness and they all get scared in their head. So I have a 
[01:02:53] Erin: big theory on the Salem witch trials, but that's another day I'm actually related to the put another day keyboard. So, 
[01:02:59] Dawn: so I'm like, oh wow. A huge Ouija board person.
So 
[01:03:03] Erin: really 
[01:03:03] Jeremiah: good. And I, but yeah, I saw That's interesting. The photos was interesting. I saw, yeah, I saw the news report on mainstream news and I was like, what the heck? I 
[01:03:13] Dawn: know everybody was tagging me. They're like, what are your thoughts? I'm like, I think it's one kid gets scared and then they all think, oh my God.
And a lot of kids that are come from religious backgrounds are like, is God punishing me as a demonn getting me? And you know, it's not, I just think it's 
[01:03:34] Jeremiah: like that. Yeah. Right. I totally can, I can buy into that. I 
[01:03:39] Dawn: do know about like demons in schools and they still have like, you know, teach in the classrooms and everything and it's not like it's something crazy.
It was French class and there was a French teacher in the Spanish teacher. They were taking a picture in the hallway and they just had the wall behind him when they took the photo. There's a man in between their heads, the two of their heads, and his face was kind of like weirdly turned and you could see like a nose ring and his eyes are real black, but it's on the wall, but it's like coming out of the wall.
Yeah, I have to send you that picture. But it happened in Kentucky, so it was like one of those really cool things. And my cousin's, uh, daughter went to school there and she was like, oh yeah, the teacher would tell us all the time, don't talk to it. It would just shut down the laptops everybody's at the same time and just, Aw, it would drain all them.
Sounds like 
[01:04:40] Erin: you needs to get crossed over. I know Ghost touched me last week, so we're good. Okay. I love Ghost Talk. Oh, you. But thank 
[01:04:50] Dawn: you so much. Me too. I got on my Ghosty shirt. 
[01:04:53] Jeremiah: Oh yeah. Thank you guys or girls. And uh, yeah, we'll do part two, uh, in the near future and I'll get more pictures lined up and Cool.
Yeah, I think it's just fun to talk about. Absolutely. 
[01:05:05] Dawn: It is. It, you could go on for hours and hours. Oh yeah. 
[01:05:10] Erin: There's so many. That's what the cool part is too, that there's so many too. It's not just one, like there's so many, so that's Yeah. Kind of reaffirming your thoughts. 
[01:05:22] Jeremiah: Yes. Oh yeah. I love that. Could do like a, like she said, hours and hours on it.
Mm-hmm. Because people dig 'em up all the time. Like even now they're coming up with new ones and 
[01:05:33] Dawn: Oh yeah, there's tons of 
[01:05:35] Jeremiah: new ones. It seems like whenever there's like a major event going on in the world, there seems to be more like added onto distractions. I'm gonna have to research into that and anytime they're doing something with cern, I'm gonna pay attention to if there's more Mandela effects after it, that's a good idea.
[01:05:54] Dawn: Or things that are happening in the sky, or with weather or natural disasters, earthquakes. We should keep track of that stuff. Earth's just shaking 
[01:06:07] Erin: up all the systems. That's what I think. I 
[01:06:11] Dawn: mean, how does it not start an earthquake? I mean, it's underground, it's roaring. 
[01:06:17] Jeremiah: Yeah. And there are claims that when they mess with CERN and like.
Have it powered on. There's like weird storms over different places and people, uh, see weird storm clouds and I think it's all related. I went 
[01:06:34] Dawn: UFO Jason three times last month here in Michigan, cuz I don't know if you've seen us on the news getting stuff shot down over our lakes, but it was pretty wild here and our skies were lighting up green and then a flash of orange.
Oh. And I was like, what the hell is going on? Never seen nothing like this. So I got my car like three different nights. I think the one night was satellite, but the other two times they shot the one thing down over Lake Huron and we still never got told what it was. The new part of the, our, uh, military grabbed it up.
So 
[01:07:17] Jeremiah: we'll never know. It got sent to Area 52. Mm-hmm. 
[01:07:22] Dawn: Yes it did. 
[01:07:24] Jeremiah: So I interviewed Tom Carey, who's the lead researcher of, uh, Roswell Crash Uhhuh, and um, he says there's actually an area 52 in Utah that they shifted to. So one day when I get to drive out West, I'm gonna try to hit all these spots and video log it.
[01:07:45] Dawn: Cool. Oh yeah, that would be amazing. 
[01:07:50] Erin: That would be, 
[01:07:51] Jeremiah: oh yeah. You guys, uh, girls have a great weekend or the rest of weekend and well, good to park. Thank you so much. Okay. Bye 
[01:07:59] Erin: guys. 
[01:07:59] Jeremiah: All.