[00:00:00] Olivia: Hi there, I'm so happy you're here. Here's what you'll gain by listening to the very last second of this conversation with Stephanie Leavell. The creator of Music for Kiddos. In this episode, Stephanie and I discuss the multifaceted impact of music and education and child development. You'll learn about the power of repetition and music education.

[00:00:25] Olivia: Why structure and flexibility are both crucial and how music serves multiple developmental purposes beyond just entertainment or academic learning. Stay with us. I am so excited to have you join our conversation. This is Schoolutions: Coaching and Teaching Strategies, the podcast that extends education beyond the classroom.

[00:00:50] Olivia: A show that offers educators and caregivers strategies to try right away and ensure every student receives the inspiration and support they need to thrive. I am Olivia Wahl and I am so happy to welcome my guest today, the incredibly talented Stephanie Leavell  Let me tell you a little bit about Stephanie.

[00:01:13] Olivia: Stephanie is the creator of the phenomenal Music for Kiddos, a mom to a spunky young daughter, a seasoned performer, an experienced music educator, and a board-certified music therapist, who is passionate about using music to help kids succeed. Stephanie shares high quality music, as well as music resources for music therapists, music educators, and caregivers on her blog, as well as inside of the Music for Kiddos community.

[00:01:44] Olivia: Our conversation today will focus on Stephanie's journey as a music educator and therapist, as well as the Music for Kiddos community and her podcast. Stephanie, it is a dream come true for me to have you as a guest on Schoolutions. Welcome. Thank you so much. 

[00:02:04] Stephanie: Thank you so much, Olivia. I'm so happy to be here and I really appreciate you getting in touch with me so we can chat.

[00:02:10] Olivia: I think your journey is fascinating and, um, I have followed you for a very long time on social, you have the voice of an angel, I'm just going to say. Thank you. It's so calming and I, I think, you know, I would dream of being a student in your class. Um, as well as just, you know, if I'm feeling stressed out, I'll pop on your channel and just listen.

[00:02:34] Olivia: And some of the songs that you've released have made me cry as a caregiver, um, a song for parents. It's just like, it kills me. Um, but just your talent is endless. So I'm excited for listeners to learn and share from you. Um, I'd love to start out with the issue and why I am excited to have you as a guest for a myriad of reasons.

[00:02:57] Olivia: One of them is really the idea of there isn't a place, there aren't enough places I'll say for that are centralized with high quality music and music resources. And you have really created that platform, which is amazing. Um, the other thing is, as teachers, we never have enough time for planning and streamlining our planning.

[00:03:22] Olivia: So you're going to speak to a couple of solutions. Um, Music for Kiddos is definitely a centralized offering. Um, so I'm excited to jump in, but I love to hear your journey. So what led you to becoming a music educator and board certified therapist? 

[00:03:39] Stephanie: So, um, I actually didn't know for a long time that that's the path that I was going to go on.

[00:03:46] Stephanie: Um, I went to college at Berklee College of Music and my intention was to study music business there because I also, you know, and it kind of fits with Music for Kiddos. I am very, very interested in growing things that, that is, that is a very big interest of mine. When I was a music therapist before, I was really in business with Music for Kiddos, I was growing music therapy programs wherever I went.

[00:04:11] Stephanie: And that was the most fun part for me was to have the challenge of being in a new hospital or something like that, figuring out how to grow a program. And then after a couple of years, I would go, Hmm, I'm ready to go build something else, you know? And so I would kind of hop around and I kept thinking, what am I doing?

[00:04:28] Stephanie: You know, am I getting burnt out? Am I not loving the work, completely? But what it is, is I love to grow things. Yeah. So, um, so I went, I was, I intended to be a music business major at Berkeley College of Music, but then, um, and this is kind of a funny kooky story, but literally three, probably about three weeks before I was ready to move to Boston, um, I had a dream and in the dream.

[00:04:56] Stephanie: I was a music therapist and when I woke up and I don't even really remember what was in the dream, but when I, when I woke up, the first thought in my mind was you're going to be a music therapist. And I kind of went, huh? And I kind of laughed. I kind of laughed it off, but I like noticed it, you know? And so then I was like, well, I don't even really know what music therapy is.

[00:05:17] Stephanie: The only introduction I had had to it was my first year of college. I went to school in Seattle and I had a composition instructor and she used to play, um, play her cello in correctional facilities. And she would talk about what incredible work it was because the cello would just resonate all the way through the facility.

[00:05:37] Stephanie: And she kept kind of telling me, like, I feel like there's something different for you, uh, somewhere. And, and, but that was completely disconnected from this dream. And then, then I went to, um, went to Berkeley and I was signing up for classes and I saw music therapy 101 and I went, and so I decided to take it.

[00:05:55] Stephanie: And the first class, I, my mind was just completely blown. And from the first 10 minutes in that class, I was absolutely in. And I was like, I found my thing. And I think the thing about it, about music therapy, and I think music education fits into this too, is. Um, you know, so much of music and what we're doing growing up and in lessons and everything is performing.

[00:06:19] Stephanie: And that has never been very natural to me. 

[00:06:20] Olivia: Um, really? 

[00:06:21] Stephanie: My, yeah, it hasn't my, um, if I had my choice of a performance, um, it certainly wouldn't be on a stage. I would much rather like fun, fun kind of quote unquote performance for me is like 10 kids. In a library. Okay. That's, that's way more my thing because, you know, I'm, I'm pretty shy, I'm pretty quiet and, um, I always loved music therapy and music education because the music wasn't about me.

[00:06:49] Stephanie: It was about the kids. 

[00:06:51] Olivia: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's an incredible story and journey as well, uh, when we find our thing. It, it, it doesn't ever feel like work. It's so fulfilling, right? Yes. So with that said, why did you start Music 

[00:07:07] Stephanie: for Kiddos? So I was doing the jump around, start different programs thing as a music therapist in Boise, Idaho, my hometown.

[00:07:18] Stephanie: And, um, found myself moving across the country. Actually we almost, I know you're from Ithaca. Yes. My, my husband got into, um, a PhD program at Cornell and at Purdue. And so we went to Ithaca. We went to, but, but the cost of living in Indiana was really different for a PhD program. It's like a New York, which is the most beautiful little small town I've ever been to.

[00:07:41] Stephanie: Yes. So, and other reasons we ended up picking Indiana. So we moved across the country. Um, And to this little small town in Indiana and, um, I, I actually found myself as my daughter's preschool music teacher. That was a way we didn't have family in town. I needed to be close by to her. I needed to be flexible for her.

[00:08:03] Stephanie: She was only, uh, four, three, three or four at the time. And I found out she didn't have music in her preschool class. And I said, can I just. volunteer, you know, for her class. Can I just, they, you know, the kids need music and, and I didn't plan on telling anybody my background or anything like that. And, you know, in short order, I was the music teacher for the whole, whole school.

[00:08:26] Olivia: There you go. There you go. Well, they probably found out the jewel or gem they had in you. This is, we, we've got to have her everywhere. Um, so I love for listeners because your website is beautiful. It's so it's curated so thoughtfully and you also have the Music for Kiddos community, which branches off.

[00:08:49] Olivia: You have the blog that I follow and adore. So what services does the Music for Kiddos community provide? 

[00:08:57] Stephanie: So the community is kind of our all access membership. So every song that I have ever written is in there, um, chords, lead sheets. Um, there's for every song, there's a video of me talking through all of the different adaptations and different uses.

[00:09:13] Stephanie: Um, because a lot of, you know, music therapists use my song for songs for one purpose and educators tend to use them for another purpose and anything else in between that you can imagine. Right. And, um, so talking about the different adaptations, we have, we must have over 75 lesson plans in there now, recordings, backing tracks, um, you know, over 600 resources right now and growing rapidly.

[00:09:38] Stephanie: It's amazing. 

[00:09:38] Olivia: It's incredible. I have to tell you. I. I agree. I talk about all of the guests that I have the privilege of having conversations with and my younger son and I adore your social reels and the reel you released with Watermelon. And where you're side by side and harmonizing with yourself, we were like, this is sick.

[00:10:00] Olivia: This is phenomenal. And I, I showed him out of the gate and then when you first released it, and then the other night we were talking, he was going to bed and he was like, can we please watch the Watermelon video again? And it's just. I don't know how you do it because you must need to clone yourself. I don't know how you juggle all of this as a mom and how do you find time to do all of this?

[00:10:25] Stephanie: I have a lot of help. So, um, we have a, we have a team now of four. Um, and, um, one person in particular works full time, the other three are part-time. Um, and her name is Mabel and she's incredible. And she is really, really good at keeping a lot of the things going so that I can be very, very creative. And, um, when that transition was able to happen, because before then, I was literally just staying up till 2 or 3 am trying to grow Music for Kiddos. And now I have a lot more, um, balance in my life and, and Mabel helps me a lot.

[00:10:59] Olivia: Good. Well, I'll have to, I'll have to pick your brain about that off of the recording because I think, you know, it's really hard to love what you do so much. And it's also hard to say no. And that's why having this conversation with you means a lot to me, because I know that your time is precious.

[00:11:20] Olivia: Um, and it's nice to have a team to have your back for sure. They're the best. Yeah. It's really great. Yeah. So I'm also a fan of the Music for Kiddos 

[00:11:31] Stephanie: podcast. Um, 

[00:11:32] Olivia: it's, it's an invaluable resource. I mean, you have so many buckets that people can dip into to keep their music flow and based on what they need, you know, and that's why I appreciate it.

[00:11:43] Olivia: So what do you love about hosting a podcast? 

[00:11:47] Stephanie: I really, I really love the podcast. So I am a consumer of podcasts every single day for hours a day, just as I'm in the car. Um, as I'm walking around and so it feels very natural to me to do my own podcast. Yeah. Um, and it's, as you know, it's very time consuming, um, to do a podcast.

[00:12:05] Stephanie: And so we are now doing like shorter seasons where I previously used to do one a week. But what people have told me is that, you know, we have over a hundred episodes and so they go back and they listen to them and those resources are still applicable. And so I feel good about the foundation of episodes that we have in that podcast, but I just, I love the creative outlet of it.

[00:12:30] Stephanie: Absolutely. I love audio. I always have. Yeah. Me too. 

[00:12:34] Olivia: I have a two hour commute each way to several school districts that I'm serving. Wow. I adore podcasts, adore them, and I feel like something, it's weird. I always need to listen and then I want to know what people look like. And I want to, I just, I get completely, um, enveloped by the stories.

[00:12:57] Olivia: So I just, I don't know. I think it's incredible in the connections. Just getting to be in touch with people that, um, and learn from others. I think that's incredible too. Do you have a favorite episode? That's a hard 

[00:13:12] Stephanie: thing to pick. That is, that is a tricky one. I would say the, the topic that I'm most passionate about that shows up in there pretty frequently is, um, just the different sensory processing considerations for music.

[00:13:26] Stephanie: And how kids are affected, you know, how their own sensory systems are affected. And I have found that to be so incredibly profound in my own work with kids that, you know, I feel like when I get to talk about that topic, I just light up a little bit. Yeah, probably all those. It's like, You know, even the first episode, that's what that's about.

[00:13:47] Stephanie: Yeah. 

[00:13:48] Olivia: Yeah. I was thinking about you last night and I always get nervous to be in conversation with people that I look up to. And I was thinking when my youngest son was a baby and He had a mobile above his crib and it's still in his bedroom now, he's 12, um, but it's dragonflies and butterflies and he would just have a hard time transitioning to go to sleep after stories and being in a rocker.

[00:14:16] Olivia: And I made up a song and I felt so silly doing it, but every night to this day, he still wants to hear you are my sunshine. And then the version of the song about the mobile and it last night reminded me of you put a real out a while ago about. Sometimes you felt like when you're introducing music to kids, they would seem disengaged and you realize that they need repetition and that you can see if they're engaged, but don't give up, repeat a song a few times.

[00:14:50] Olivia: So I see the need for repetition for a variety of reasons as a therapist. I actually can be rubbing Henry's arm or his back at night and sing these songs. And he just, there's a calm, right? That comes over him. And then I also think of when I was teaching kindergarten and how music was such a thread throughout our day and our life and children listen with different years, if something is being sung, it's captivating, um, So, I just, music needs to be in the lives of all of our children.

[00:15:28] Olivia: Yes. All the time. But, I, I was thinking about so much that you say. And how it applies to our lives as caregivers, as teachers outside of the music classroom, right? Gen Ed teachers, we can all sing to our children. They're very kind, usually, about our voices. Very friendly. We don't have all the voices like you, Stephanie.

[00:15:52] Olivia: It's, it's just, it's quite beautiful. One of your blogs, because I do circle back and I use them often, that I absolutely love. I have it in front of me. I print it out. Um, five ways to simplify your early childhood music, less music lesson planning, and you offer five hacks, 

[00:16:10] Stephanie: but 

[00:16:11] Olivia: I'm hoping you'll be, uh, you won't mind if I quote you because it was really profound.

[00:16:17] Olivia: I love this and I think it will resonate. Uh, you say, I remember the first day of school with my first early childhood group, literally looking up at the clock, going through songs I had in my back pocket. And it had been like eight minutes. I was running out of songs and we had almost another 20 minutes to go.

[00:16:36] Olivia: And then in bold, this is actually why I started Music for Kiddos. Because I started looking for songs and resources and I couldn't find one central place to help me, to give me high quality children's songs and resources and to help me plan for my early childhood groups. So it's, it's brilliant, right?

[00:16:55] Olivia: Um, so you solved the problem and that's what I like to do. You know, there are issues and we can troubleshoot, right? But these hacks are awesome and I look at them and think, this doesn't just apply to music. So would you mind sharing these hacks with listeners? Sure. Yeah. 

[00:17:15] Stephanie: I'd have to say that is the next extension of like, how did you become like, or how did you start Music for Kiddos like that? That was a monumental moment, um, as I was looking into, you know, becoming a preschool music teacher from being a music therapist, going, you know, doing this one-on-one, uh, music therapy kind of experience where I was making up songs on the spot and we were doing kind of whatever we wanted in the moment.

[00:17:43] Stephanie: And then I had these 20 to 25 kids. You know, preschoolers in front of me, my daughter's class, my very first day. And I was, I was, you know, pretty confident that I would be able to figure it out and they just destroyed me. It was so hard. No joke. It is no joke. Yeah. It's really hard to be, um, an early childhood music teacher.

[00:18:05] Stephanie: It is no joke. And so pretty soon I was like, okay, I gotta get organized. I have to figure out how to do this. And then, you know, I would, I would figure out like one week. And then, you know, the next week would come and I go, Oh no, what am I going to do? You know? And so, so I really had to figure it out and, um, and here are some of the things that I do.

[00:18:26] Stephanie: So I have what I call back pocket songs. So I create, I have a whole bank of songs that don't typically make it on my normal lesson plans, but that are just back pocket, back pocket songs. And I end up using them pretty much more than any of my other songs. So they're kind of like the greatest hits. Um, because, um, I know that kids like them, um, and sometimes I need to pivot.

[00:18:51] Stephanie: And sometimes, you know, depending on what's happening in front of me, you know, we need something more regulating or we need just a different option, more movement or something like that. And so I'll pull out one of these songs. So I have about 10 or 12 songs that are just ready to go at any given time.

[00:19:08] Stephanie: So that's one of them. And then one of the things that helped me plan quite a bit was to have. a standard class format where I would kind of give myself an idea of what I was going to do. So I know I'm going to start with a hello song. I know I'm going to end with a goodbye song. I know that in the middle, I'm probably going to do three movement songs.

[00:19:30] Stephanie: I'm going to do a more active movement song. What I call a transitional movement song. That's maybe like a sitting movement song, um, where they're still moving their bodies, but we're kind of reducing the overall stimulation, you know, and bringing down the energy level a little bit. And then like a cool down movement song, somewhere in there, I'm going to do, I'm going to do a book, somewhere in there, I'm going to do an instrument song.

[00:19:52] Stephanie: And, um, I have generally ideas of like where the more academically challenging songs go, you know, based on how the kids are, um, how their attention, um, is, you know, doing at that time. Again, like the classes before lunch are going to be really different from the classes after lunch. And then any given class is going to be really different on any given day. And so it's a very flexible format, but I have, I have at least an idea of where I'm going to go and I have songs plugged into those any given week. Yeah. Um, and I, and I truly do embrace the repetition. Because like, like you mentioned before, um, sometimes I would write a song, I would bring it to the classes, I think even like my Hot Chocolate song is one of these that this happened with, so my hot chocolate song is a song that kids really, really enjoy.

[00:20:47] Stephanie: Even the Hot Chocolate song, I remember bringing it the first day thinking the kids were really, really gonna like it. And I got these kind of blank stares. And I thought to myself, oh, it was a bust, you know, which some of my sons are a bust. Like, it just happened. And, so I remember, um, thinking, oh, this is a bust.

[00:21:05] Stephanie: Um, but remember thinking, I'm going to try it a couple more times because I really feel like they'll like it. And they just need time to process it. You know, they always say music processes overnight. You have all of these different elements of music. You have the song form, the lyrics, the melody, the chord progression all of these different things that kids have to process the lyrics. They usually process the lyrics last, right? So and um, all of these different things that they're processing. And so they may just need a couple weeks to process all of those different elements And what I have found is that like week two when I bring a new song all of a sudden they can sing it They are all in they are all smiles and those blank stares are gone and they're excited about it.

[00:21:48] Stephanie: Oh, yeah It's so funny to me. It still surprises me.

[00:21:51] Olivia: It is, and that, that's so interesting that they process the lyrics last, but they're making sense of it. And so, right. And I think of too, in classrooms, children love to reread books. They love to hear books read aloud to them, just like our own children.

[00:22:09] Olivia: They have that catalog of favorites. And they almost take the language of those stories in, I remember, right? Like, um, oh, what is it? Three Billy Goats Gruff and Caps for Sale, all of those, yeah, Corduroy and the children. It feels like they've memorized the words. It's almost like the lyrics of a song and, and there's that rhythm that comes to it.

[00:22:33] Olivia: And it's also a comfort and familiarity. So it's incredible. Um, but I think so much of what you just described, hack wise, adults in classrooms, teachers also can think of, of, you know, what do we have as our back pocket transitions? How are we going to really feel the vibe of the children in the classroom?

[00:22:55] Olivia: And to know. Yeah, we have to be gracious with ourselves. We have to not give up on something right away. And then I also think, what would you change? What do you still see in public schools when it comes to music education? That we could do better. 

[00:23:13] Stephanie: Ooh, that is a, that's a tough one because you know, so many schools are different and I do get the opportunity to interact with, um, a lot of music educators where they, their schools are knocking it out of the park.

[00:23:30] Stephanie: You know, they have, they truly have access. The kids have access to music therapy and music education multiple times a week. I even know educators where their schools, you know, I'm thinking of an educator and like in Pennsylvania. She sees her students five days a week. It's a short, it's a short amount of time, but it is five days a week.

[00:23:50] Stephanie: But that is not the norm. No, no, that is not the norm. Um, and you know, from my perspective, the more music, the better, um, because it has all of these elements in it. Um, you know, it has the organizing element of it with the rhythm and the song form and things like that. It has the academic element of it, but it also has the emotional element completely built in.

[00:24:14] Stephanie: You know, you're talking about your son and the song that your son loves to hear for comfort. And I have an 11 year old and I love that age. I love, love, love that age. And it's like this, they have just these beautiful tender hearts. I, you know, they're very, very sweet and they're, um, they're very mature and they're very young at the same time.

[00:24:37] Stephanie: And so you get this beautiful mix of. Um, of that experience and, you know, so I think of that, that song that you mentioned that that provides him just incredible peace and comfort, which I can't think of anything but magic. No, it is magic. Yeah. And that is built from a young age that is built in early childhood and their songs that kids are getting in early childhood. 

[00:25:01] Stephanie: They're so important and I take my songs very seriously for that reason. The messages just like in the books the messages are so important to kids And so if you listen to my music you hear affirmations you hear validation and comfort and reminding them that they're just right how they are and you hear all of these things because You know those songs and those messages are so important and they get that You In school, they get that at home too, but we know they're getting it at school and it has to be there.

[00:25:38] Olivia: It does because we can't guarantee what's happening outside of school. And, and that if I could do anything, I would continue to beg educators within the walls of our school buildings to know that we can only focus on what we have control over. And we have so much influence and I use the word power, but it's more, um, how we can share ourselves as humans.

[00:26:05] Olivia: And I think music is something that's communal and everyone has an access point. It doesn't have to be with their voice, but we have tools to be musical. In so many ways, um, so, and I think something that's fascinating for me as a mom, um, and I know for my husband as well, both of our children are very musical, um, but they are completely different as musicians.

[00:26:34] Olivia: And so what we, our older son has played guitar. He's 16. He's played guitar since second grade. He has never read music. He started with tab, but he plays everything by ear. Um, and he was in a lesson with his teacher, um, and he, they were playing and mimicking back and forth. And I heard his teacher say, well, look at the music.

[00:26:57] Olivia: And Ben said, oh, I'm going to bring the music up. And he said, yeah. You don't have the, like the tab up in front of you. You're just doing this because like, yeah, whereas Henry, um, is, he loves trumpet and so he always wants to hear the, the actual musician playing or the music being played by a professional musician before he dives into it.

[00:27:22] Olivia: Um, but he reads music beautifully. And, uh, so it's just, I guess it's so fascinating to me. Um, Just the ways we can offer children access to the world of music, right? Yes. Um, so Stephanie, uh, you are a gift and I also want to say as a, as a caregiver, your Music for Kiddos is also music for grownups. It's not just for kiddos because you put songs out that get me at my head, heart and gut.

[00:27:55] Olivia: So that song for parents (Slow Down), I listened to it over and over because it's just, it resonated so deeply, you know, that time, what was the line, um, the very beginning of the song, Slow Down, can you sing, do you mind singing a little bit? Yeah. And it goes, One of these days, I'm gonna blink and you'll be older. Another day passes, you'll be wiser. Beyond what I can understand, (I sang a little too low). So much faster than I planned. Um, yeah, and I wrote that about my, my daughter. Um, and with the universal experience of being a parent where, you know, they say that days the days are long, but the years are short. Retreat.

[00:28:43] Stephanie: Yeah. Where it's so, uh, it's one of the most difficult things that I think anybody will ever do is to be a parent, um, and one of the very best, most beautiful and best things as well. Yeah. Sure is. 

[00:28:59] Olivia: Oh, you got me. Your voice is so beautiful and it's so hard, you know, with our older son transitioning into looking at colleges now, which is bananas. I also think of our younger, you know, he is going to lose his best friend from our household. So it's this, I just, I'm grateful for, um, other caregivers like you that can capture that emotion and feelings. It's just this weird precipice to be on. Um, so thank you for everything you do, uh, for the world of music and really how you serve children, because that's what this all comes down to.

[00:29:37] Stephanie: I have the opportunity to interact with a lot of music educators every single day. I feel so, so fortunate and I'm inspired by. So many of them, um, and the person that comes to mind for me today, because I've been talking to her quite a bit this week, is Dr. Sarah Gulish. Um, she works with F Flat Books. She just released a brand new children's book called Rosie Rocks! about a shy little girl who is interested in playing the electric guitar and, um, expressing herself in that way.

[00:30:08] Stephanie: And it's such a beautiful book. And also she's just constantly trying to support other educators and, um, in a really, really creative and equitable way. And I just love F Flat Books and everything that they do. 

[00:30:23] Olivia: Um, so I, the best way I'm guessing to get in touch with you is through your website. Yes?

[00:30:28] Stephanie: Yeah. Or Instagram. I answer all of our Instagram DMs. That's a great way to get ahold of me as well. Yeah. Yeah. And thank you. You, you, music means a lot to me. I love talking to people that, you know, have that experience as well, where we can, we, we are seeing the impact that music has on kids and we see how profound it is and how profound it can be.

[00:30:52] Stephanie: Um, and. You know, and like we were talking about how it just adding that to life is adding peace and calm and joy, you know, um, and finding music that resonates with kids is, is such an important thing, you know, the music that they like that their parents can also enjoy too. 

[00:31:11] Olivia: Yes. Yeah. So important. Uh, Stephanie, I, this is honestly, I have looked forward to this conversation for Over a year and I'm just, I'm so grateful for your time. Thank you for all you do for kids. 

[00:31:26] Stephanie: Oh, thank you for having me. Appreciate it. Take care.

[00:31:32] Olivia: Schoolutions: Coaching and Teaching Strategies is created, produced, and edited by me, Olivia Wahl. Thank you always to my older son, Benjamin, who created the music that's playing in the background. You can follow and listen to Schoolutions wherever you get your podcasts. or subscribe to never miss an episode and watch on YouTube.

[00:31:52] Olivia: Thank you to my guest Stephanie Leavell for sharing about the multifaceted impact of music and education and child development. Now, I'd love to hear from you. Send me an email. It's schoolutionspodcast@gmail.com. Let me know how your school or district provides access to quality music education. This is so vital because we can't guarantee what musical experiences children receive outside of school.

[00:32:21] Olivia: Tune in every Monday for the best research-backed coaching and teaching strategies you can apply right away to better the lives of the children in your care. Stay tuned for my bonus episodes every Friday where I'll share how I applied what I learned from guests in schools that week. See you then.