Anatoliy [00:00:00]:

The reason that happens is that in the moment of when we're discussing that thing, there's no consequences. And because there's no consequences, you will always agree and side with the truth. No, there's no consequences in the moment, because really there is logic happening and it makes sense. And you're like, you're right. Yes, I agree. Now throw that person.

Eldar [00:00:22]:

There's no.

Anatoliy [00:00:22]:

In a situation where there's consequences, right. In those real life examples, when we're talking here, we say something. I mean, it makes freaking sense.

Mike [00:00:30]:

It resonates.

Anatoliy [00:00:31]:

Your cue cannot go against it. Yes, but now let's throw some consequences in there.

Eldar [00:00:35]:

What the fuck, Mike? We've been applying the wrong pressure this whole time. All right, Mike Simpin, you want to get into it?

Mike [00:00:56]:

Sure.

Eldar [00:00:56]:

You don't want to get into it?

Mike [00:00:57]:

Sure. You want to get into it? Sure.

Mike [00:01:00]:

We can. If you guys still got the.

Eldar [00:01:01]:

I have the stamina, Jeff.

Mike [00:01:03]:

You, Mike? Yeah.

Eldar [00:01:04]:

Hit us with it before we continue.

Anatoliy [00:01:08]:

I think an interesting thing that I've at least observed, I feel like for a long time, like an elder's strategy in general about people is that I always wondered for a very long time, why do you give people the leeway? No, I felt like you overgive people off the bat, even though they're not deserving of it in the beginning. And I was wondering for a long time, I don't know if you want to say, for example, Tommy, give him an office, set everything up to his liking, do everything for him, like whatever pens you want, whatever notebooks you want, whatever kind of space you want. Let's go choose the rug. Let's go choose the desk, the setup, what kind of lights you want, thrive, right?

Anatoliy [00:02:04]:

And you do all that at the very start. So they're not like showing you like hell. They're like, look, I've written 1000 pages. I want this upgrade now.

Anatoliy [00:02:14]:

But you're going to give them all that, or anyone, and I've observed that many times, including from myself.

Anatoliy [00:02:22]:

So I feel like your strategy is almost like in promotion of that you give everybody everything so that they have Everything. So now there's nothing else. But obviously they don't realize it.

Eldar [00:02:38]:

He finally caught me.

Eldar [00:02:40]:

He finally caught me. Well, he understands my strategy because I wholeheartedly believe this. Yeah, you can't have an argument then. You have to look within. And as Tony said, where the fuck is he?

Eldar [00:02:55]:

All the nonsense, right. All the conversation, where the fuck are you?

Mike [00:02:59]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:03:00]:

Because he believes and now he understands that there's something bigger at stake. Not this, not the trivial things.

Mike [00:03:09]:

It's you, motherfucker. It's fucking you.

Eldar [00:03:13]:

Holding you away from you.

Mike [00:03:15]:

Now.

Eldar [00:03:16]:

Go fuck yourself.

Mike [00:03:19]:

Right?

Eldar [00:03:20]:

Go fuck yourself. Literally. Yeah, because that's what you're doing. You're fucking yourself out of your own success, out of your own happiness actualization.

Mike [00:03:31]:

Or whatever it is.

Eldar [00:03:33]:

Let's talk about the simping, because I think that's fucking closely tied to fucking.

Mike [00:03:37]:

This shit right here, Mike. Yeah.

Eldar [00:03:39]:

For a very long time. Yes, we've been calling you a simp.

Mike [00:03:44]:

Yes.

Eldar [00:03:44]:

You've been simping out on many occasions.

Mike [00:03:46]:

Yes.

Eldar [00:03:46]:

With women especially. And finally you came to us and you raised your hand and said, yo, I got it. Like, holy shit, I believe this now.

Mike [00:03:57]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:03:58]:

I couldn't believe myself that you're fucking saying this. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? How are you telling me this now? I thought you'd been bought in.

Mike [00:04:09]:

Yeah, I guess I feel like I use this a lot.

Mike [00:04:12]:

But.

Mike [00:04:15]:

You learn about whatever that you're learning about. It could be take you days, weeks, months, years. But then there's that day where the flashlight, I mean, the light bulb moment, kind of where it all clicks. So maybe you have these little inklings about it, right? You understand? Like, hey, this is wrong, but so and so makes it right, or it's okay. It's not that serious. But I think, who is that person?

Eldar [00:04:43]:

Who is the person that fucking agrees in the fucking moment? Like, yeah, but doesn't fucking believe it.

Mike [00:04:49]:

Probably arrogant person. There you go. Yeah.

Eldar [00:04:54]:

Why?

Mike [00:04:55]:

Because the desire is bigger than the balls. You got to do it the right way. You're willing to cheat and not do the right legwork.

Eldar [00:05:05]:

So it doesn't believe that this is what's happening and this is the identity that it's play. Therefore, it's like, I'm just going to do it my way like that.

Mike [00:05:15]:

No, I think it's because you acknowledge.

Eldar [00:05:19]:

It and you say, yes, I agree. Right, but you don't actually agree.

Mike [00:05:25]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:05:25]:

Who the fuck is that?

Mike [00:05:27]:

The thing is, you do agree in that moment. You know you're wrong, but it's a moment.

Eldar [00:05:32]:

Okay.

Mike [00:05:33]:

I think it comes back to the ego thing and the humility.

Eldar [00:05:36]:

Okay, so what you're saying now is, yeah, and I agree with this. Obviously, I'm going to fucking say a rhetorical thing, but it's a realization for me. Personality trumps the moment.

Mike [00:05:47]:

Personality trumps the moment.

Eldar [00:05:49]:

Your personality of who you actually are.

Mike [00:05:53]:

Right for the moment.

Eldar [00:05:54]:

You can remove that personality and put it to the side, the sim personality. You know what I mean? Yeah, I got to change this. This is bad. Whatever.

Mike [00:06:03]:

Right.

Eldar [00:06:04]:

For the moment. Because you realize through logic in the moment that what I'm saying is correct and you're agreeing with it. But the truth of the matter is your personality is your personality, and that's going to take very long time to.

Anatoliy [00:06:18]:

Like.

Eldar [00:06:18]:

I agree with that.

Anatoliy [00:06:19]:

But I think, and I'll say this to Mike before me when we were talking about yesterday or whatnot, I agree with that. But I think that the reason that, and this is what I think is like the core of it is that the reason that happens is that in the moment of when we're discussing that.

Mike [00:06:44]:

Thing.

Anatoliy [00:06:47]:

There'S no consequences. And because there's no consequences, you will always agree and side with the truth.

Mike [00:06:56]:

That is very interesting.

Anatoliy [00:06:57]:

And now. Right. That's why it happens.

Eldar [00:07:01]:

What do you mean? But in the moment, the consequences of shame.

Anatoliy [00:07:04]:

No, there's no consequences in the moment because really there is logic happening and it makes sense. And you're like. You're right. Yes, I agree.

Mike [00:07:14]:

Right.

Eldar [00:07:14]:

You're right.

Anatoliy [00:07:15]:

Now throw that person.

Eldar [00:07:16]:

There's no.

Anatoliy [00:07:17]:

In a situation where there's consequences.

Mike [00:07:19]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:07:20]:

And that's in those real life examples where there are consequences in all different kinds of things, big and small. To me, it is very easy to identify the people that actually stand by what they believe.

Mike [00:07:34]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:07:35]:

You could say something, for example, very strong. And the way that you say it, you're ready as that one guy for it. Yeah. As that one guy in that one video that you showed me a long time ago about those gangsters in New Orleans.

Mike [00:07:49]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:07:49]:

They said, I'm a whole court right now.

Mike [00:07:51]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:07:51]:

I don't care.

Anatoliy [00:07:51]:

I don't care.

Mike [00:07:52]:

Yeah. Right.

Anatoliy [00:07:53]:

And when you say what you say in the moment, whether it's a strong thing or not, if this is something about who you are, you're ready to hold court right now.

Mike [00:08:03]:

Yes.

Anatoliy [00:08:04]:

You're ready for. We're going to back away.

Mike [00:08:07]:

Yes.

Anatoliy [00:08:07]:

We're not going to be friends ever again. This is all going to be dead right now, right here.

Mike [00:08:11]:

Yeah. Right.

Eldar [00:08:12]:

You're right.

Anatoliy [00:08:12]:

And same thing. For example, for Mike, in those moments with the girls, when we're talking here, we say something. I mean, it makes freaking sense.

Mike [00:08:23]:

It resonates.

Anatoliy [00:08:24]:

You cannot go against it. But now let's throw some consequences in there.

Mike [00:08:28]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:08:29]:

She's going to ban him or this is going to happen. That it's going to happen right. In that moment. He's not ready to hold court saying like, yo, you're right. You don't like what I have.

Mike [00:08:41]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:08:41]:

Door is right there by.

Eldar [00:08:43]:

Yeah, you're right.

Anatoliy [00:08:44]:

That to me is the biggest thing, is that when you're about it, wow. You're ready to face the consequences.

Mike [00:08:51]:

Right. Wow.

Eldar [00:08:52]:

This is very important. Yeah, I agree with that.

Mike [00:08:56]:

I agree with that. I can't say nothing.

Eldar [00:08:58]:

I agree with 100%. I didn't know this.

Anatoliy [00:09:01]:

No, I remember I was saying this. We were talking about saying to me, the biggest thing, I thought the consequence.

Eldar [00:09:08]:

Was the fucking shame. He's saying, no, you're not losing shit.

Anatoliy [00:09:13]:

No.

Eldar [00:09:14]:

You actually are exercising logic and reason and you agree with it. So you're applying that to yourself in the moment.

Mike [00:09:21]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:09:21]:

And you're not losing shit.

Mike [00:09:23]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:09:23]:

And in those moments where Mike talks about that, he had breakthroughs.

Eldar [00:09:26]:

Fucking right.

Anatoliy [00:09:27]:

And he had things go right or he stood up for himself, for example. What did he do? He said, this is what I am. I'm ready to like to himself. He's basically saying, I'm ready to face the consequences. And what's the consequences? I'm going to get up and leave.

Mike [00:09:42]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:09:42]:

Get the fuck out of here. I'm not going to talk to you ever again.

Mike [00:09:44]:

Fuck off. That's it.

Anatoliy [00:09:46]:

And in the moments where you simp out, you're not ready to face the consequences.

Mike [00:09:49]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:09:50]:

They're going to say, no, you're not going to get this. This relationship's over, whatever they are, big or small.

Mike [00:09:58]:

Wow. Right.

Anatoliy [00:10:01]:

That, to me, is like the biggest difference.

Mike [00:10:03]:

I can't say nothing about that.

Eldar [00:10:06]:

That hit fucking home.

Mike [00:10:08]:

Yeah, that's good.

Eldar [00:10:09]:

This is correct. What the fuck, Mike? We've been applying the wrong pressure this whole time. You need consequences. That's why I fucking told you. If you don't fucking do five fucking compliments, you can't come to fucking podcast. You see what he's saying?

Mike [00:10:21]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:10:22]:

You need consequences because otherwise you're not taking the shit seriously, you motherfucker. You see that?

Mike [00:10:28]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:10:29]:

That is crazy.

Mike [00:10:30]:

That's crazy. Good. Has everybody learned like that?

Anatoliy [00:10:37]:

To me, this concept is not even about the learning. It's about, you were just asking, like, why when we're talking here, you agree with something and stuff like that. So to me, it's not even about the learning.

Mike [00:10:50]:

Okay.

Anatoliy [00:10:52]:

I'm fully convinced that no matter who you're talking to, right. If you can capture their attention, you could be in the moment with that person, and that person is kind of showing that back to you. None of us here can disagree with any kind of logical points.

Mike [00:11:07]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:11:07]:

You can't.

Anatoliy [00:11:08]:

You can't.

Eldar [00:11:09]:

You can't.

Mike [00:11:09]:

Right.

Eldar [00:11:09]:

It's impossible.

Anatoliy [00:11:10]:

We're agreeing with those because they're a concept. And there's no consequences at play.

Mike [00:11:16]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:11:18]:

When you throw in the consequences, it brings out your attachments.

Eldar [00:11:21]:

You're asking for accountability.

Anatoliy [00:11:23]:

Well, consequences are tied with your attachments.

Mike [00:11:26]:

Yeah. Right.

Eldar [00:11:27]:

You're right.

Anatoliy [00:11:28]:

And in those different moments, if Mike is ready to hold court.

Eldar [00:11:33]:

Yeah, right there.

Anatoliy [00:11:34]:

Right there. Again, go act on big or small, and you've done this with whoever, you've done this with Catherine, with all of us and all different kinds of things. I always see constant examples of, you're ready to hold court. Right there, where I think in general, the majority of people, they're not ready to hold court.

Mike [00:11:52]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:11:53]:

They're going to be like, oh, fine. They're not ready to hold court. Because withholding court, there's consequences. There's sentences.

Eldar [00:12:02]:

There's penalties. Penalties.

Mike [00:12:04]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:12:04]:

There's actual something to lose. Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:12:06]:

There's something to lose.

Mike [00:12:07]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:12:08]:

And big or small, some people are not ready to take those consequences.

Mike [00:12:12]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:12:13]:

In any moment where Mike has ever brought up, like, a successful breakthrough, for example, with any of these. Like with that one. No, no, the other one. That's how you had a Harry back or something. That one girl who wanted you to tour around, like, in the city.

Mike [00:12:33]:

Paulina. Oh, no.

Anatoliy [00:12:35]:

Yeah. She came to the basketball game, right?

Mike [00:12:37]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:12:39]:

When you were in your room, what did you do?

Mike [00:12:43]:

What did I do?

Mike [00:12:44]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:12:45]:

I packed my shit up and left.

Mike [00:12:47]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:12:47]:

You held court right there.

Mike [00:12:49]:

Yeah. Right.

Anatoliy [00:12:50]:

You held court for yourself. And that's the thing. Even if the person is not ready to hold court, sometimes when you hold court, nobody shows up.

Eldar [00:12:59]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:12:59]:

Right. Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:13:00]:

The defendant or whoever doesn't show up.

Mike [00:13:02]:

Yeah. Right.

Eldar [00:13:03]:

They're not ready.

Anatoliy [00:13:04]:

Or the plaintiff.

Mike [00:13:05]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:13:07]:

And that. See what you do? You said, okay, the judge said, in that moment, this case is dead. One of the people is not here.

Mike [00:13:15]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:13:15]:

Okay.

Mike [00:13:16]:

Right.

Eldar [00:13:16]:

That's very important.

Anatoliy [00:13:17]:

What happens if a cop gives you a ticket and then they don't show up in court?

Eldar [00:13:20]:

Yeah, but you do.

Mike [00:13:21]:

It's dismissed 100%.

Mike [00:13:24]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:13:24]:

You got up and you left. Because either. And I don't even think that she. I don't even remember if she was sleeping or if she was awake.

Mike [00:13:32]:

No, she was awake.

Mike [00:13:33]:

Right. Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:13:34]:

But whatever it was, you were ready to hold court, which you did, and you got up and left.

Mike [00:13:39]:

That's it.

Anatoliy [00:13:40]:

You were ready to face the consequences that, like, yo, this relationship is dead. You guys are never going to talk. And that whatever your idea of your life with her going forward, the honeymoon or whatever it was, you were ready to throw that all away because that, to you, was gone. And because you were willing to throw that all out.

Mike [00:14:03]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:14:05]:

You were able to be alongside the truth in that moment.

Mike [00:14:10]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:14:12]:

And those probably moments, those different ones you have in those different situations, when you reflect upon them, I'm sure the outcome feels the best for you internally.

Eldar [00:14:22]:

It's empowering.

Mike [00:14:23]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:14:23]:

100%.

Mike [00:14:24]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:14:24]:

Because you did something back yourself. Yes.

Eldar [00:14:29]:

We spoke about it, about standing on your truth and accepting the consequences and being okay with them. But I think that what he's saying is really magnifying what we've been talking about.

Anatoliy [00:14:42]:

Yeah. And the only reason I felt that I came to something like this is because, for example, when I examine my own stuff and my own anxieties, when I'm the most anxious, I'm not willing to accept the consequences.

Eldar [00:14:58]:

Okay.

Anatoliy [00:14:59]:

That's when I started to think about this. Is that, for example, why do I have that? I have that because not willing to hold court in those things.

Eldar [00:15:07]:

In those things in the moment, I'm.

Anatoliy [00:15:08]:

Willing to break the truth to just do a little moment. Things are okay.

Mike [00:15:13]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:15:14]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:15:15]:

But when you're ready to stand behind what you're actually talking about in the moments, like right now, you're ready for.

Eldar [00:15:23]:

The consequences right there and then.

Mike [00:15:25]:

Yeah. Mike. Yeah.

Mike [00:15:31]:

Well, this is huge.

Eldar [00:15:32]:

This is the cure for fucking simping, bro.

Mike [00:15:35]:

It is 100% cure for simping. Well, this is the cure. But how do you get to the place where you're ready to hold court? And I think we did touch upon it like we were talking about yesterday. I think one of the things is staying your own lane. Be like, yo, I have a mission in my life that I'm doing, and.

Eldar [00:15:54]:

If you want to go, great, come along.

Mike [00:15:56]:

If not, I think that's a part of it.

Mike [00:15:59]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:15:59]:

And then another thing that I was thinking, a part of it is like, fuck, there was something else, but I think that is a part of it is like knowing where you're going and kind of being okay. Like, whoever wants to join joins.

Eldar [00:16:12]:

That's right.

Mike [00:16:13]:

They fuck with. They do what they do. If they don't, they don't. You keep moving. That's right. And how to build the confidence to then to be able to hold court part of it, too, I guess.

Eldar [00:16:24]:

Yeah, keep exercising it.

Anatoliy [00:16:26]:

Yeah. Most of the stuff I agree, but I'm not sure if the attitude about I'm going to do what I'm do regardless of anyone says. I'm not sure if that's strong enough to keep you on a consistent way of ready to. On a consistent path where you're ready to hold court. I almost think that it could be examined like a judicial system.

Mike [00:16:51]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:16:52]:

In those different moments, if we think about them, what happened for them to pan out, how they panned out.

Mike [00:17:02]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:17:03]:

You have supporting evidence, you have supporting details, and those either make sense or they don't make sense.

Mike [00:17:08]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:17:09]:

Right. You had enough in those moments, for example, when you left her room that time, you had enough supporting details to back your claim.

Mike [00:17:17]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:17:17]:

And that's why you were inevitably able to stand by it. This is not a situation where you could make shit up or not stand with the truth.

Mike [00:17:26]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:17:27]:

You need to have supporting details to win the case.

Mike [00:17:30]:

Right? Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:17:31]:

What was the case? Okay. This person's treating you poorly, or they're doing this or they're doing that. You could have either enough supporting evidence, like details, one way or another, and that way will always win.

Mike [00:17:44]:

Yeah. Right.

Anatoliy [00:17:46]:

So if you almost examine all of those different situations, you either have the details or you don't. And you don't need to make a choice in the matter because the details will guide you in that right direction. Evidence. Or if you don't have evidence, you're going to simp, like you're going to do this.

Eldar [00:18:08]:

Yeah, that's it.

Anatoliy [00:18:09]:

But if you do have the evidence.

Eldar [00:18:11]:

No, but you might have the evidence, you might still symptom. Yeah, there's occasions of that too.

Mike [00:18:16]:

You could fault, I guess, if you.

Eldar [00:18:18]:

Really, you could fault.

Mike [00:18:18]:

Attach to something.

Eldar [00:18:19]:

If you're attached to something.

Mike [00:18:20]:

Yeah. It's hard. So how do you then? I don't know. What is the state of mind or what's the process of getting to a point where you're always willing to hold court.

Anatoliy [00:18:33]:

Yeah, I think you have to be paying attention.

Mike [00:18:37]:

You have to be paying attention.

Anatoliy [00:18:38]:

You have to be paying attention and.

Eldar [00:18:41]:

Knowing and understanding the truth within the moment. It's moment to moment basis. If you really know what you're talking about, really will know what you're about and you're standing behind that, then you have that. You can hold court.

Mike [00:18:56]:

You know what I mean? Yeah.

Eldar [00:19:00]:

I mean, you held a small court earlier with the messaging, right? Messaging the girl.

Mike [00:19:07]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:19:08]:

You said, look, if it's not working out, it is what it is. It's okay. Mental.

Mike [00:19:14]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:19:15]:

With myself?

Eldar [00:19:15]:

Yeah. It's all good. Whatever. It is what it is. You keep moving.

Mike [00:19:20]:

Yeah, keep moving. That's funny. That's funny that he said, hold court. That morning when I came in a couple of days ago, when I was on my bully, I felt like when I was driving here, I was listening to music, and I was like, in the rap, they use this expression like, yo, it's on site.

Eldar [00:19:40]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:19:41]:

I was saying that to myself, the way I felt right now, it's on site. Anybody's coming at me, it's over. Because I felt so good about myself, I understood this huge thing that I discovered that night, the confidence. So I'm saying on site, he's saying, hold court. We're saying the same thing.

Eldar [00:19:58]:

Exactly.

Mike [00:19:58]:

But that's how I felt. And I was like, this is very funny that you're backing your shit. Backing your shit.

Mike [00:20:03]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:20:04]:

And the thing is, has no attachments.

Mike [00:20:07]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:20:08]:

Whatever happens, happens. No, if you fuck with me, you understand me? Cool. If you don't, no problem. No problem. When Nate was in the fucking office and accused Tolle to connive against him and not invite him to the parties and said that we're bad friends because we're not understanding his retreats that he's not telling us about, I said, my man, you say, we bad friends. Whole court right now.

Mike [00:20:32]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:20:33]:

Right in that moment, I go in there, right away, I'm like, yo, there's a clear distinction of what the fuck is going on here.

Mike [00:20:40]:

Let's have it.

Eldar [00:20:42]:

We bad friends. The door is right there. Get the fuck out.

Mike [00:20:45]:

Right.

Eldar [00:20:45]:

I stand behind that 100%. That's what he's talking about.

Mike [00:20:50]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:20:50]:

That's what he's talking about.

Anatoliy [00:20:52]:

Yeah. If you notice in general, any of those kind of life scenarios, when people are looking, they're like.

Mike [00:21:01]:

People are right away scared of people, don't want situations. They don't.

Anatoliy [00:21:05]:

In reality, bro, generally, people don't want to hold court.

Eldar [00:21:09]:

I did not expect this to happen.

Anatoliy [00:21:12]:

They still want a little bit of attachment to all of these different things. They're never really willing to let them go. And that's why they're never really able to find the truth about things.

Eldar [00:21:22]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:21:23]:

Because these attachments exist.

Eldar [00:21:26]:

Yeah. And that was shown a fly. This was not planned. He came out of nowhere, came into his face, into the office. You remember the shit?

Mike [00:21:35]:

I know.

Eldar [00:21:36]:

Started fucking accusing him. I'm like, yo, time out. What's happening here? This is not the truth of the matter. I'm over here fucking fighting with my wife to make sure you go on vacation, my man.

Mike [00:21:45]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:21:46]:

You know what I'm saying?

Mike [00:21:47]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:21:47]:

Because she banned you. What are we talking about here? Accusing us to be bad friends? I was like, yo, chill. That's it. Whole court right there on the spot. He's right. You have to be willing to do that shit. If you're not, then you're simping.

Mike [00:22:03]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:22:03]:

100%.

Eldar [00:22:04]:

Then you're simping. What are you simping for? That's the question.

Anatoliy [00:22:08]:

That's why, for example, when you talk about, I've heard numerous times, you talk about, for example, like, love, right?

Eldar [00:22:19]:

Yeah, you got my attention that way.

Anatoliy [00:22:22]:

Yeah. Right. When you talk about it. Okay, so let's backtrack.

Mike [00:22:31]:

Right?

Anatoliy [00:22:32]:

When people talk about, for example, love or falling in love, they're talking about falling in love with, for example, a person. But I feel like the way that they're looking at it or treating it is that they're talking about an individual that has particular qualities at all times, right?

Mike [00:22:54]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:22:54]:

So I feel like they're almost thinking that they're falling in love with an item. A constant, like an item that just, like, okay, stays the same. This item is blue. It has a red ribbon. Right. Its constant stays the same. No matter what, they don't think about it, that they're falling in love with a fluctuating concept or idea that people need to tune into.

Mike [00:23:18]:

Right? Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:23:19]:

Now, what we're trying to say is that when you're talking about love or falling in love, you're talking about two individuals choosing or not choosing to tune into something. And when they're not doing that, those people are not in love. They don't like each other, and they go in and out. But if you have two people that are able to constantly do that, then they are going to, for example, to be in love. Right. And for example, when people are going, I think if they're going to date or if they're going to go or if they want to get into a relationship, I don't think the pursuit is out there to find individual that has constantly all of these different characters. And when you stumble upon them like they're the one. Because people, I think, are blindsided that when two people meet, those things are constant, potentially for a period of time.

Anatoliy [00:24:15]:

Yeah, but then those things fade.

Eldar [00:24:17]:

That's right.

Anatoliy [00:24:17]:

Over time, they change.

Mike [00:24:19]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:24:20]:

But people don't realize that. They don't realize that what's happening.

Eldar [00:24:24]:

They don't plan for that. No.

Mike [00:24:26]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:24:27]:

So I almost think that if you understand that concept and you stand behind that concept, then I think you're much more likely, for example, Mike would be much more likely to be willing to hold court because he may have met someone who's nice.

Mike [00:24:44]:

Right, right.

Anatoliy [00:24:47]:

Or they have these qualities right now, but you can't go into it thinking that this is who this person is at all times, no matter what.

Mike [00:24:54]:

That's right.

Anatoliy [00:24:55]:

Which is why I think you have to be willing to hold court to see, okay, who's willing to tune in or tune out in those moments. And that's where you can go into it without any attachments. That's right. Because if they're not willing, then that's it. Next.

Mike [00:25:18]:

I agree, she's 100% right. But I would say I don't know if it's the same thing, but in a way what he's saying is that person can fluctuate. Obviously we all do.

Mike [00:25:31]:

Right.

Mike [00:25:32]:

But I think we should strive that we are not fluctuating and consistently be on our living life and examining, making sure we're living accordance to truth. And when the person says, like, hey, I don't want to be in love with you right now, right. Because that's what they're actually saying when they're behaving out of that way. We have to still stay on our path because two people, they're in love, they're in a relationship, but they are still like two lives that they're going parallel. But sometimes people veer off, but I have to still keep going on my path.

Mike [00:26:08]:

Right.

Mike [00:26:08]:

So I guess the inconsistency in that other person, you should be backing yourself with your own consistency, correct?

Anatoliy [00:26:17]:

Well, that comes down to paying attention, right? Because also, again, you could say all these things about being the same person doing that. But realistically, if you're not paying attention, it's going to be very hard, right? It's very hard for you to do that. But I think, like when Elder says all the time that he's listening, that he's paying attention, that I think is his pursuit of always wanting to be.

Mike [00:26:43]:

That kind of person.

Anatoliy [00:26:44]:

And I think that he knows to do that, you have to always be listening, otherwise things are just going to fly under the radar or things are going to fly over your head and you're not going to realize of what's going on. But he's able to pick up and pay attention to, for example, all of those different types of things constantly that maybe sometimes me and you are not able to or don't see of what's going on, he's able to see what's going on. And that's because he has this pursuit of paying attention. And if you pay attention for long enough or a long enough time.

Mike [00:27:32]:

You'Ll.

Anatoliy [00:27:32]:

Be able to stand on those kinds of grounds, I think consistently and times where you're not paying attention is where you constantly cannot stand on those types of grounds.

Mike [00:27:45]:

Yeah, it makes sense. I think part also with the paying attention thing. I think as you get good at paying attention, you don't start paying attention to what's being said. You kind of already start paying attention to how you feel when the behavior is out of character for the person that you're interacting with.

Mike [00:28:06]:

You may not necessarily hear it, what.

Mike [00:28:09]:

Is being said, but you may feel what's being said. Right. I guess that's another way to pay attention.

Mike [00:28:14]:

Right? Yeah.

Mike [00:28:15]:

You could listen to the other person or you could listen to yourself how you feel when the person is saying certain things. I don't know in what sense you were referring to, but I think they both.

Anatoliy [00:28:27]:

No, I was just saying in general, in all kinds of ways of paying attention.

Mike [00:28:32]:

Right.

Mike [00:28:35]:

But I think for Eldar becomes like, it's an automatic thing where when he feels maybe that the person's out of tune, he doesn't have to pay attention. It's already just felt or like automatically thing.

Eldar [00:28:50]:

Because it is felt. A lot of it is felt.

Mike [00:28:53]:

Tuned.

Eldar [00:28:53]:

It is felt. Yeah, it is felt. I don't have to really pay attention.

Mike [00:28:58]:

I feel it such a long, correct.

Eldar [00:29:01]:

History because I'm very sensitive.

Mike [00:29:02]:

You're very sensitive.

Mike [00:29:03]:

Yeah, that's what I mean. Correct. Yeah.

Mike [00:29:05]:

Because if you're both in a boat paddling.

Mike [00:29:07]:

Right.

Mike [00:29:08]:

Like a fucking example, you're paddling with like this and the person is paddling the other way. It's impossible not to feel it. You don't have to turn around to know that something's up.

Eldar [00:29:16]:

That's right.

Mike [00:29:17]:

You're going to feel like there's a fucking drag on opposite directions.

Eldar [00:29:21]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:29:21]:

I just think it probably just comes out to ultimately, of how good are you at paying attention.

Mike [00:29:26]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:29:27]:

And maybe he needs to put lesser effort at times of paying attention, but nonetheless, I think he's always paying attention.

Mike [00:29:36]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:29:37]:

If you're always paying attention on. And again, some different things require different levels of how much intensity is required for you to pay attention because someone's saying some nonsense that may be a very low effort, like attention for him, or maybe it's, I don't know, some other situation he's really paying attention, really putting in effort into. And then there's also, obviously things like in the middle of that.

Mike [00:30:03]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:30:06]:

But by doing that, I think that creates the consistency of character by paying attention.

Eldar [00:30:15]:

So you're going to cure the simps?

Mike [00:30:19]:

Am I going to cure the simps?

Mike [00:30:21]:

No.

Eldar [00:30:22]:

Do they have a trajectory that's inevitable?

Mike [00:30:24]:

Yeah. I think it's important to understand, like what he explained, it's very important, the ability to hold court. But what kind of characters do you have to have in order to hold court? What does that entail? That's like a much deeper conversation.

Eldar [00:30:42]:

Why can't the simp hold court?

Mike [00:30:44]:

Yeah, why can't.

Eldar [00:30:45]:

So many attachments.

Mike [00:30:46]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:30:46]:

Right. He has a very specific agenda that he's willing to do whatever it takes.

Mike [00:30:51]:

For it, especially act put on an.

Eldar [00:30:54]:

Act that he doesn't truly believe in.

Mike [00:30:57]:

Right.

Eldar [00:30:58]:

In order to get what he wants. If he doesn't get what he wants, he throws a fucking fit through mood swings and shit.

Mike [00:31:05]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:31:07]:

What kind of judges in the court system are bad judges?

Mike [00:31:12]:

Yeah. The ones that, what sort of corrupt. Corrupt, right. Yeah. Corrupt judges have what, horse own agenda?

Eldar [00:31:22]:

They have an agenda. They have attachments.

Anatoliy [00:31:23]:

They have attachments, right.

Mike [00:31:25]:

Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:31:25]:

Those are the ones that get in trouble.

Mike [00:31:27]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:31:27]:

Because they cannot hold court in an objective way, to stand by the truth. Right.

Mike [00:31:37]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:31:37]:

See, what you're saying is to stand by the truth. So then it's important then to actually understand the truth and know the truth and believe it.

Anatoliy [00:31:44]:

Yeah. I think a constant concept that I think is very important. For example, what you're doing to be aware of, and this is kind of what I think I was saying before about is that you're not going to fall in love with anybody. There's no, just like you're not going to fall in love with any kind of person because that person is not a constant.

Mike [00:32:09]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:32:11]:

What you need to be, I think probably falling in love with is who is willing to tune into those kinds.

Mike [00:32:17]:

Of things.

Anatoliy [00:32:20]:

I guess, at a more frequent pace.

Eldar [00:32:23]:

Yeah, often.

Anatoliy [00:32:24]:

Right. So that's why if you have that kind of concept, there's no one out there that you're going to go, for example, on dates with or do anything with that you have any kind of attachment to.

Eldar [00:32:36]:

Okay.

Anatoliy [00:32:37]:

That's why I think if you're going into it that way, you'll be able to hold court easier.

Mike [00:32:45]:

Yeah. Right.

Anatoliy [00:32:46]:

Because if you have an attachment to a particular person, you're not going to be able to do this.

Mike [00:32:51]:

No. You're going to be. Yeah.

Mike [00:32:52]:

It's a very important concept to know.

Eldar [00:32:54]:

That number one priority is you.

Mike [00:32:57]:

Is you or the truth.

Mike [00:32:58]:

For sure.

Eldar [00:32:58]:

The truth. The truth.

Mike [00:33:00]:

Right.

Eldar [00:33:00]:

If you stand behind the truth, that's your number one priority. If you're an arrogant bastard, then, no, that's not your number one priority. You should be reliant on somebody else.

Anatoliy [00:33:07]:

You got to be ready to ban her, and she's got to call you back. Oh, Mike, I'm ready to listen. You were right about that.

Eldar [00:33:12]:

Yeah, correct.

Mike [00:33:13]:

Right, correct.

Anatoliy [00:33:15]:

Those are okay. And. But I think that not having those attachments is very difficult. But I think it becomes easier if you come into it knowing, like, what are you actually falling in love with? You're falling in love with the particular person who says and does particular things. If they're not saying and doing those particular things, that's what you're in love with. You're not in love with the person.

Mike [00:33:47]:

You're in love with the person, like.

Anatoliy [00:33:49]:

What you and that person's mind is able to connect and do.

Mike [00:33:54]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:33:54]:

That's what you actually like.

Eldar [00:33:56]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:33:57]:

Because if not, you just go for looks.

Mike [00:34:00]:

Right?

Anatoliy [00:34:00]:

Like they look this way. That's it.

Mike [00:34:02]:

Checkbox.

Anatoliy [00:34:03]:

Checkbox.

Mike [00:34:04]:

Right. That's it.

Anatoliy [00:34:06]:

Then it'd be done. But no, it's what they say, what they do, how they act. That's what you actually like.

Eldar [00:34:14]:

Or how you are bouncing yourself off of that.

Mike [00:34:17]:

Well, that's a big one, too.

Anatoliy [00:34:18]:

Yeah. All that fun. And those are all things that are not. Again, like inanimate object things. They're not constant things.

Mike [00:34:26]:

Yeah, but it's within our control. Right. If you're empowered, I can dictate, obviously not every situation, but I should be able to set the stage and how the thing goes. If you're the leader.

Mike [00:34:42]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:34:42]:

If you're the leader. And then you should feel like, hey, for me, the thing Elda just said, bouncing your idea off the person, that's a huge thing that I think is fun because you get to see what you get. See what you get.

Eldar [00:34:55]:

See where it lands.

Mike [00:34:56]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:34:57]:

Some people you will offend and some people, you'll make you laugh.

Mike [00:35:01]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:35:01]:

Some people will cry.

Mike [00:35:03]:

Yeah. Some people, they don't get you. They think you're a bully, think you're a jerk. Like the girl. We said, I'm going to be a dictator.

Mike [00:35:11]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:35:13]:

She was confused. Yeah, she was confused, but we were joking.

Eldar [00:35:16]:

She didn't get it.

Mike [00:35:17]:

She needed a dictator, but she didn't get the joke.

Mike [00:35:19]:

And that was it.

Eldar [00:35:20]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:35:20]:

There was nothing else to be said.

Mike [00:35:23]:

I was called a bully in the.

Eldar [00:35:25]:

Relationship that I wanted.

Mike [00:35:27]:

Yeah. And it didn't work out.

Eldar [00:35:30]:

She said, you're a bully. I said, okay, you want to see a real bully? That's when I beat 110 shows a basketball player. So simping ain't easy.

Mike [00:35:44]:

Simping is easy, son. Simping is easy.

Eldar [00:35:48]:

Simping is easy, man. It's the easiest path to what Simps think is victory.

Mike [00:35:52]:

Yeah, but selling yourself out.

Eldar [00:35:55]:

Yeah, but it's the hardest life to live, I think.

Mike [00:36:00]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:36:01]:

I really do think that you're never.

Mike [00:36:02]:

Going to be happy.

Eldar [00:36:03]:

You're never going to be happy.

Mike [00:36:04]:

You never have that.

Mike [00:36:06]:

What you want, which I'm not sure is ever going to make you having what you want. No, it never makes you happy.

Mike [00:36:11]:

It never makes you happy. Yeah.

Mike [00:36:13]:

I guess probably a lot of people.

Mike [00:36:17]:

Myself included, didn't know their own value.

Mike [00:36:23]:

And what things actually add value to them as an individual.

Eldar [00:36:27]:

Right.

Mike [00:36:28]:

Like people have a nice car, have a nice house. I have money. This is my value.

Mike [00:36:32]:

Right.

Mike [00:36:34]:

A lot of people. That's what it is. For myself, it was a long time I thought that was an important thing to get girls and stuff.

Mike [00:36:41]:

Right.

Mike [00:36:41]:

To attract a girl.

Mike [00:36:42]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:36:43]:

And now you realize that, for example, your sense of humor is even bigger.

Mike [00:36:47]:

Than any of that. Well, yeah.

Mike [00:36:49]:

My ability to always, not always, but my ability and desire to always have fun and be silly is a lot more expensive. Is a lot more expensive, because that.

Mike [00:36:58]:

Actually is the best part of life.

Mike [00:37:01]:

About life, is having fun.

Eldar [00:37:02]:

Correct.

Mike [00:37:03]:

Being silly, being yourself.

Mike [00:37:04]:

Correct. Yeah.

Anatoliy [00:37:05]:

What are all those things? Those are all things of what you say, how you act, and what you do.

Mike [00:37:11]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:37:11]:

None of those things that either of you just listed are like inanimate objects, like cars or things or money.

Mike [00:37:22]:

That's what the value.

Anatoliy [00:37:23]:

And if this is what you have to offer, for example.

Mike [00:37:26]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:37:27]:

What do you want? You probably want. You don't want inanimate things, right? I don't know, like looks or items or dresses or stuff like that.

Mike [00:37:39]:

Right.

Anatoliy [00:37:39]:

And if you want those things in return, that's what you're looking for. And people who are not, like you're.

Eldar [00:37:45]:

Looking for somebody who offers that, who's receptive.

Mike [00:37:50]:

Receptive to the nonsense I'm going to be saying.

Eldar [00:37:51]:

That's correct.

Mike [00:37:52]:

Who's going to enjoy is going to like it.

Mike [00:37:53]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:37:54]:

That is correct.

Anatoliy [00:37:55]:

And once they indicate to you that this is not what they're about, I think it's very easy at whole court.

Mike [00:38:02]:

That's right. Yeah.

Mike [00:38:03]:

It's very easy to hold court. 100% gigs up.

Mike [00:38:05]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:38:05]:

You find out very fast you don't fuck with us.

Eldar [00:38:08]:

No problem. The door is right there. The door is right there. No problem.

Mike [00:38:14]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:38:16]:

Don't call me a year or two later and saying, yo, I appreciate.

Mike [00:38:20]:

I get it now.

Eldar [00:38:23]:

Don't bro, I'm fucking because I'm bad.

Mike [00:38:26]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:38:27]:

You like to hit people with a big hammer.

Eldar [00:38:29]:

I do.

Mike [00:38:30]:

Especially I do.

Eldar [00:38:33]:

I mean, it's a necessary hammer. I apply the necessary pressure that needs to be applied.

Mike [00:38:40]:

Yeah, that's it, yeah.

Mike [00:38:42]:

That's interesting about the right pressure that needs to be applied. With the one that said, I'm a dictator. I was coming at her with a very strong energy specifically because of. That's what I felt like, what was needed to test her.

Mike [00:38:59]:

Right.

Mike [00:39:00]:

Some other girl, I may come a little bit softer because.

Eldar [00:39:03]:

Yeah, she doesn't need that.

Mike [00:39:04]:

Because she doesn't need that. But ultimately I'm trying to find out where she stands.

Eldar [00:39:08]:

That's right.

Mike [00:39:08]:

This one, maybe I can hit her with a harder hammer to see if she's going to crack another one. I give her a lighter hammer to see if she cracks to find out where she's at. And I think. I don't know. For me, it's important to use that approach.

Mike [00:39:25]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:39:25]:

Because I think if she knows something, she should do the same to me.

Eldar [00:39:29]:

That's right.

Mike [00:39:29]:

See where the fuck. Where I stand. I got to be able to hold her down or I'm going to fold at the first sign of being some kind of conflict or issue. 100%. What should a simp ask himself to find out why he's simping and what should he.

Eldar [00:39:49]:

Very simple question, probably. Does it feel good? Does it really feel good?

Mike [00:39:53]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:39:53]:

In the moment? Of course not. Definitely doesn't feel good.

Mike [00:39:57]:

Are you getting what you want?

Mike [00:39:59]:

No.

Eldar [00:40:00]:

The sip doesn't get what he wants. He never does.

Mike [00:40:03]:

Not in the long run.

Eldar [00:40:04]:

No. He never does. He's never satisfied.

Mike [00:40:08]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:40:09]:

Are you happy?

Mike [00:40:10]:

No.

Eldar [00:40:11]:

Are you empowered?

Mike [00:40:13]:

No.

Mike [00:40:14]:

Are you consistent?

Eldar [00:40:15]:

Are you consistent?

Mike [00:40:15]:

No.

Mike [00:40:16]:

Feeling consistently mentally?

Eldar [00:40:17]:

No.

Mike [00:40:18]:

You have a roller coaster every day.

Eldar [00:40:20]:

You throw fits.

Mike [00:40:22]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:40:23]:

Throw mental fits.

Mike [00:40:24]:

Constantly.

Eldar [00:40:25]:

You're pointing the finger.

Mike [00:40:27]:

Constantly.

Eldar [00:40:28]:

You're not empowered?

Mike [00:40:29]:

No.

Eldar [00:40:30]:

Now, if a simple wants to be a liar, let him be a liar. Let him do his thing like Tony said. Let him exhaust all those options.

Mike [00:40:37]:

Yeah. That's what it comes back to.

Eldar [00:40:39]:

That's it.

Mike [00:40:39]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:40:40]:

If you're going to go the simp route, this is very clear what you're going to do, but if you want to stop being a simp, what's required to do is going to be to evaluate everything.

Eldar [00:40:51]:

That's right.

Mike [00:40:52]:

To actually know what you're worth, what you're about, what you're not about. And if you want to fucking have a decent crack at it, you have to fix those things.

Mike [00:40:59]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:41:00]:

You have to find out where's the holes in your shit.

Mike [00:41:03]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:41:05]:

So are you excited you finally discovered the simp in you?

Mike [00:41:11]:

Yeah, I told you guys, I just got him by the fucking.

Eldar [00:41:15]:

That's crazy.

Mike [00:41:16]:

But a little bit.

Mike [00:41:17]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:41:17]:

Because I never knew how dangerous he was.

Eldar [00:41:20]:

You never took him seriously?

Mike [00:41:21]:

Well, I think I never looked at love. I never, for a long time never looked at love as like, there's falling in love and then there's staying in love. I never understood what kind of effort is required to stay in love. I was like, yeah. I thought the falling in love is the goal. Yeah. To trick them into it for myself and for them.

Mike [00:41:41]:

But I never, I guess, never took.

Mike [00:41:45]:

It as seriously as it needs to be taken in order to actually live a good, happy, sustained life in love.

Mike [00:41:49]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:41:50]:

It requires a lot.

Eldar [00:41:52]:

Huge. The honeymoon is a phase, dog.

Mike [00:41:54]:

The honeymoon is a good phase.

Eldar [00:41:56]:

That's a good phase. But nonetheless, it's a phase.

Mike [00:41:58]:

It's a phase. But life is life.

Mike [00:42:00]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:42:00]:

And then you have to simp yourself through, honey, after honeymoon, bro. No, you might just put up an act for just that long.

Mike [00:42:08]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:42:08]:

But, yeah, it's important to know what you're actually signing up for and what kind of character, what kind of resiliency you have to have within you to keep that same energy to then to sustain that.

Mike [00:42:18]:

That's right.

Mike [00:42:19]:

Yourself and then share that with other person and for as long as they're willing know, be on that journey with. Until they're ready to hold court or until you're ready to hold court with them.

Eldar [00:42:33]:

Because the court is coming.

Mike [00:42:34]:

It always comes, right?

Eldar [00:42:35]:

It always comes. Mike, I just had one think.

Mike [00:42:38]:

I think I'm understanding a little bit more.

Mike [00:42:41]:

I think I'm understanding a little bit more.

Eldar [00:42:43]:

Yeah, you're ramping up to get ready.

Mike [00:42:45]:

Yeah, but I think. I don't know, because I already understand this dangerousness. Now I can figure out how to fix the gaps of myself that get me to this dangerous place. So I have to ask myself, why am I simping? What am I not standing behind? Why am I not standing behind it? What am I not confident? What do I think that I'm lacking? Or I think that somebody may judge me for something that I'm lacking. And when I answer those questions logically here, it's a joke, bro.

Eldar [00:43:14]:

That's a joke.

Mike [00:43:15]:

Yeah. It's embarrassing.

Eldar [00:43:24]:

That's what we talk about.

Mike [00:43:25]:

No, but it's embarrassing if I talk to somebody and honestly and say the life that I'm living, and then I say, yeah, but I'm not confident enough to tell somebody about it.

Mike [00:43:36]:

It's a villa.

Mike [00:43:37]:

It's wild. The life that I'm living, being able to do what I do on a daily basis, the freedoms that I have.

Eldar [00:43:46]:

That's right.

Mike [00:43:46]:

The fun that we have all the time and also the growth that I've experienced.

Mike [00:43:51]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:43:52]:

If you can't about it, then you're a loser.

Mike [00:43:56]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:43:57]:

There's nothing that you can compare to that.

Eldar [00:44:01]:

Who can tell you something? Well, the ones that they think that they have their own boxes to check, they're going to say, oh, you have this? Do you have this? Do you have established this? They're going to come with that nonsense. Are you ready to hold court? What are you talking about?

Mike [00:44:17]:

Well, yeah, I think the.

Eldar [00:44:17]:

Who told you that?

Mike [00:44:18]:

I think that now the process of solidifying for myself more and more like, yeah, this is what I have. This is the fucking craziest life you're ever going to live, bro. That's right. That's how I feel about it. And I don't want to be like a fucking arrogant or cocky here, but that's how I feel. It's crazy, but always standing on the other stuff and wanting to stand on other stuff, hiding behind the other stuff was such a wild thing and that ruled me for a very long time.

Mike [00:44:47]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:44:48]:

But now that I'm sniffing it out, I got to ban it.

Mike [00:44:53]:

You excited for Sunday?

Mike [00:44:54]:

Yeah, I'm excited for Sunday.

Eldar [00:44:56]:

I'm excited for you for Sunday.

Mike [00:44:57]:

If she comes or she doesn't, I'm still excited.

Eldar [00:44:59]:

Yeah, I'm excited.

Mike [00:45:01]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:45:02]:

We're going to find out.

Eldar [00:45:03]:

We're going to find out what you're about.

Mike [00:45:05]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:45:08]:

Because it's not really up to her, it's up to you.

Mike [00:45:10]:

It's not up to her, it's up to me.

Eldar [00:45:11]:

That's up to you.

Mike [00:45:12]:

I'm going to come in there with my own agenda, which is to have fun. Yeah, I'm going to have fun. If that's right, she's enjoying the fun with me, then we're going to enjoy the fun. If not, we're going to hold court, we're going to shake hands and we're going to say goodbyes.

Eldar [00:45:24]:

That's it.

Mike [00:45:24]:

Nice to meet you.

Mike [00:45:25]:

That's it.

Mike [00:45:26]:

That's it.

Eldar [00:45:27]:

Onto the next one and the next one and the next one.

Mike [00:45:29]:

Yeah. Good.

Eldar [00:45:32]:

So for all the simps out there, if you're listening, because it's not that simple. Simps are not that simple.

Mike [00:45:39]:

No, they are very simple. They're mine. Simple. Yeah, but this shit is not simple.

Mike [00:45:44]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:45:45]:

I mean, can a simp provide us with any challenge that we can't fucking understand or solve here?

Mike [00:45:52]:

No, totally. No.

Mike [00:45:55]:

That's the beauty of. That's another thing that's beautiful about the.

Eldar [00:46:00]:

Life that Simp have to say.

Mike [00:46:02]:

Any challenges that come across. I know that I may not have the answers, but I know that if I have a desire to find it, I know that we can do it together. Yeah, that's a fucking, like.

Mike [00:46:13]:

Yeah, that is level.

Mike [00:46:14]:

That's goal to think about that. It's next level.

Eldar [00:46:16]:

That's the friendship, shelter, insurance.

Mike [00:46:18]:

Yes.

Eldar [00:46:19]:

All right, so final thoughts on fucking simping?

Mike [00:46:22]:

Yeah, simping is necessary for some people, I guess, who want to.

Eldar [00:46:28]:

It's fucking natural selection, bro.

Mike [00:46:31]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:46:32]:

That's why it keeps coming to. But it sounds so bad.

Eldar [00:46:35]:

Yeah, you can't believe you in that pool, right.

Mike [00:46:37]:

It's like everybody got a sense.

Mike [00:46:39]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:46:40]:

And you go on a fucking. What's that thing where you have a death sentence? Like death row. Everybody's going to death row. But you didn't sign up for this.

Mike [00:46:49]:

No.

Eldar [00:46:49]:

You're like, what the fuck?

Mike [00:46:50]:

I don't want to be here. I didn't do anything. Yeah, but you did.

Mike [00:46:53]:

You did.

Eldar [00:46:54]:

You did a lot of things.

Mike [00:46:55]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:46:55]:

And they'll let you out of it. But you really got to fucking dig to get off that sentence. To get released from that sentence. Yeah, it's fucking. Yeah, it's tough. That's why. I don't know.

Eldar [00:47:07]:

Would you wish simps luck or no?

Mike [00:47:10]:

Wish them luck. They hit rock bottom.

Anatoliy [00:47:12]:

Luck.

Mike [00:47:13]:

Luck. No, luck's not going to help you, bro.

Eldar [00:47:16]:

No, bro.

Mike [00:47:17]:

No, luck's not going to help you.

Mike [00:47:21]:

Got to be like a relentless.

Eldar [00:47:23]:

You know what I'm going to wish simps?

Mike [00:47:25]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:47:25]:

Andrew Tate, bro.

Mike [00:47:26]:

Oh, my God.

Eldar [00:47:27]:

That's what just fucking came to mind.

Mike [00:47:29]:

That's sick.

Eldar [00:47:30]:

You understand us?

Mike [00:47:31]:

Yeah, that's what he deals with. Yeah, he does. That's it.

Eldar [00:47:38]:

Go out there, get punched in the face and grow a pair.

Mike [00:47:41]:

That's what he says.

Eldar [00:47:42]:

Sick, the fucking idiot.

Mike [00:47:45]:

Yeah, but simps need him.

Eldar [00:47:49]:

That's why I think he is what he is. Because simps admire this.

Mike [00:47:54]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:47:55]:

Like, oh, shit. They have no idea what's going on.

Mike [00:47:58]:

No, of course.

Eldar [00:47:59]:

But the techniques that are given, right, if applicable, yield results. So they're like, yo, this works. They don't understand what the fuck is going on.

Mike [00:48:12]:

If you're a true simp, follow Andrew.

Eldar [00:48:14]:

Tate because he's a fucking idiot just like you are. Holy shit gigs up.

Mike [00:48:22]:

Yeah, totally, totally. Said definitely that the first thing that.

Mike [00:48:25]:

He said was definitely big. Yeah.

Eldar [00:48:31]:

Because everything we're talking about, we're talking about a wraparound fucking service here. A wraparound fucking approach.

Mike [00:48:37]:

100%.

Eldar [00:48:39]:

And if it's not implemented properly.

Mike [00:48:41]:

Yeah, it's over for you.

Eldar [00:48:43]:

You're going to fall into that fucking category of motherfuckers that pedal fucking hoop dreams that you can solve this by being fucking tough. What are you talking about, not tough?

Mike [00:48:58]:

You're a fucking idiot.

Eldar [00:49:00]:

You just happen to find individuals that are weaker than you in that approach.

Mike [00:49:05]:

Who's willing to listen?

Eldar [00:49:06]:

Who's willing to listen? Your stupid ass, you know what I'm saying? Because they probably have.

Mike [00:49:09]:

There's enough people.

Eldar [00:49:10]:

Daddy issues or some other bullshit PTSD trauma, you know what I'm saying? You're just oppressing them. You're not fucking a real man. Nothing about that. Don't know about being a leader.

Mike [00:49:22]:

No.

Eldar [00:49:23]:

You're a punk. That raises voice and it fucking work.

Mike [00:49:26]:

That's it.

Mike [00:49:28]:

Yeah, but a lot of people will listen.

Mike [00:49:31]:

Yeah.

Eldar [00:49:31]:

Because they're desperate. Desperate.

Anatoliy [00:49:35]:

He just queals a little bit louder.

Eldar [00:49:38]:

That's it, that's it.

Mike [00:49:39]:

Yeah, he just squeezed a little louder.

Anatoliy [00:49:42]:

Yeah. Tammy, I don't have much to add. Just gonna maybe say a line that sounds kind of good, but I don't know if it actually means pimpin simpin'name.

Eldar [00:49:52]:

Pimpin'that's.

Mike [00:49:52]:

Funny.

Mike [00:49:53]:

I said, that doesn't really mean anything because that's how I felt.

Mike [00:50:00]:

Yeah.

Mike [00:50:00]:

I said, I was like, I know this doesn't mean anything, but it kind of sounds good. Yeah.

Eldar [00:50:04]:

All right, well, I know that simping ain't pimping, that's for sure. Bye.