Reasoning Through the Bible

S26 || How to Know If You Have Sold Your Soul || Mark 8:31-38 || Session 26 || Verse by Verse Bible Study

Glenn Smith and Steve Allem Season 4 Episode 42

In this powerful episode, we explore the pivotal turning point in Mark's Gospel where everything changes. After Peter's confession of Jesus as "the Messiah," Jesus begins teaching something entirely new and unexpected - His coming suffering, rejection, and death at the hands of religious leaders.

The conversation transforms into Jesus' profound teaching on discipleship. "If anyone wishes to come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me." Here, Jesus permanently links following Him with self-denial and suffering. The cross wasn't merely His burden; it becomes the pattern for all who would follow Him.

This episode illuminates how the Christian journey isn't primarily about personal fulfillment or success, but about following Christ even when that path contradicts our expectations. Join us as we reason through this transformative teaching that defines what it means to be a disciple of Jesus.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Reasoning Through the Bible. If you have your copy of the Word of God, turn to Mark, chapter 8. There, in our previous session, we just learned Jesus' answer to the question who do men say that I am? More importantly, who do you say that I am? Peter's confession? There really is a hinge point of the book of Mark and we're going to talk about that today as we continue to reason through. Steve, can you start at Mark 8, 31 and read down to verse 33?

Speaker 2:

And he began to teach them that the Son of man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes and be killed and after three days rise again.

Speaker 1:

The first part of this passage there in verse 31, and he began to teach them, and it tells them what he was teaching next. This means that at this point this is the beginning point of this teaching began to teach them implies that he started teaching them here and it was ongoing From here on, he's giving this next message. What he is doing here is a turning point in the entire book. You remember, back in the first part of the Gospel of Mark, we had John the Baptist and Jesus coming in saying the kingdom is at hand. That was the message. The kingdom is at hand, and the reason was because the king is here. Jesus was the king and he was announcing the kingdom. The Jewish leaders rejected him, saying that he was doing miracles by the power of Satan, and officially declared him to be Satan-possessed. So from that point, jesus had been trying to get his disciples to realize who he was, and it culminated in our previous session.

Speaker 1:

Who do men say that? I am Well. Some say this, some say that. But who do you say? And Peter gave the great confession you are the Christ, the Son of God. At that point he began to teach something else. What did he begin to teach? He began to teach them from here on to the rest of the book, verse 31,. The Son of man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes and be killed and after three days rise again. This is a new teaching, steve, don't you agree? This is kind of a change in his message that he's giving.

Speaker 2:

It is. We have talked, glenn, through the last few sessions about the rejection from this delegation that came from the synagogue. Jesus recognizes this and we see the change in his ministry. We've talked about that as well. But there's going to come an official rejection when he's put on trial. We also know that throughout these last few days they have been plotting to kill him. They've been working with the Herodians, the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the scribes. They're already all working together to try and come up with a case so that they can put him on trial and that they can ultimately kill him. Jesus here, I think, is now making it more out in the open to his disciples of this rejection, and not just a rejection, but a death and a resurrection that's going to come after it.

Speaker 1:

In the beginning of the Gospels, jesus had been announcing the kingdom. The kingdom is at hand here. Once he gets this confession out of Peter, you are the Christ. Then verse 31,. He began to teach them something very different At that point. He begins to teach them that he must suffer and die and rise again. The disciples thought when he announced the kingdom that this was the time when the earthly kingdom was going to start. All those Old Testament prophecies about an earthly kingdom with the Messiah reigning from Jerusalem, all of that was the disciples expected that to come in at that point.

Speaker 1:

He now changes this, or at least he gives them a message that's quite different, that they're not really understanding this Now. It's a message of suffering and dying and something called rising again, which, again, we've had thousands of years to think about this. They're hearing it for the first time and it's quite confusing to them, but it's a turning point in Jesus' teaching. This is where he changes and verse 31 begins to teach about the death and resurrection. 831, everything leads towards the cross, starting in Mark. 831,. For the rest of the book, everything leads towards the cross, starting in Mark 8, 31,. For the rest of the book, everything leads towards the cross and the tomb. Now, how much in this verse, steve, in verse 31,. How much of his death and resurrection was he teaching them? Was he clear in this message?

Speaker 2:

Well, I think he's clear because he knows what's going to happen, but to them that's not real clear. To them, what does this mean? That he's going to rise again after three days. Now, earlier in the other Gospels, when the Pharisees had challenged him looking for a sign, I think it's Matthew that adds to it. Mark doesn't do it, but Matthew adds to it that this generation won't see the sign, except for Jonah. That of course, means that Jonah was in the belly of the fish for three days and we've talked about that whenever we went through some of our Q&A sessions and talked about that. But I think this is just an introduction, glenn. It is very straightforward of what's going to happen. But I think he also realizes that they're really not going to understand this until it gets further down and he's going to have to teach them some more on this concept of dying and being raised again three days later.

Speaker 1:

Notice in verse 31 who he's talking about. He says the son of man must be rejected, and he mentions three groups the elders, the chief priests and the scribes. Now, if you think of those people, that makes up the entire civil and religious government of the country. The chief priests and the scribes were the ones who made the decisions about what followed the Mosaic Law and what the rules were in the nation, about the law and the elders. That constitutes the entire Sanhedrin and the leadership of the world, of the nation. Rather, what he's saying there is that I am going to go to Jerusalem and be rejected by the entire leadership.

Speaker 1:

This was contrary to what Peter and the disciples expected, because how is that going to happen if he's going to usher in this earthly kingdom? So his message isn't fitting what they understand. Now, peter understood. We asked the question was it plain? Well, it was plain enough for Peter to understand part of it, because Peter it says in verse 32, he was stating the matter plainly and Peter took him aside and rebuked him. Peter understood enough of it to be able to say no, lord, no, this shouldn't be. Jesus was predicting his own death.

Speaker 2:

This didn't fit Peter's theology at this point and I think it doesn't fit his theology because he's expecting the kingdom and I believe that that is the motivation that Peter has. Peter sometimes is falsely accused of being harsh here, but I get more of a sense of he's pulling Jesus aside. It's more of us saying no, it's not supposed to be that way. You're the king, you're the Messiah. How is it that you're going to be killed and taken away? So he's kind of looking, I think, more at the death part rather than what Jesus has said, the second part of it, that he's going to be resurrected.

Speaker 2:

So I think that this works into Peter's thinking as to why he goes to Jesus and tells him this. And of course, jesus' answer is get behind me, satan. Because you're not thinking of what God's plan is, but you're thinking more of what man's plan is or man's wish is. You're being more selfish, peter. You're thinking of what you want and what the man wants, but you don't really understand what the plan is, what's interesting to me here is, just prior to this, what happened?

Speaker 1:

Peter had come up with the confession you are the Christ, who am I? You are the Christ, the Son of the living God Very spiritual and very high level of spiritual discernment that he had there. He was recognizing who the Lord Jesus is. The very next verses, peter hears this message from Jesus and says no, lord. And Jesus pulls him aside and says get behind me, satan.

Speaker 1:

So it's interesting to me in one breath Peter is praising Jesus and saying you are the Christ, and in the next breath he's rebuking Jesus, saying no Lord, what you just taught was wrong. So I find it interesting because isn't this so much like us On one minute? We tend to be very spiritual and we'll have great spiritual insights when we read the Bible. Then in the next breath sometimes we're inserting our own desires and our own wishes and the things that I want, and I end up getting my hand slapped or worse from the Lord. I just find this, peter, to be an example of a very human condition, of especially the Christian. We have two natures and we can be in one minute on a very high spiritual plane and agreeing with the Lord on very deep spiritual concepts and in the very next breath, I find that inserting my own desires instead of the Lord's. Steve, are we ever guilty of that?

Speaker 2:

I think we are and we're in a position here of knowing what has happened. We know the rest of the story and at this time of taking place in the narrative, jesus knows the rest of the story. So we can easily put ourselves in the place of Jesus here, because we know that he's going to die, he's going to be resurrected, he's going to ascend and that he's going to be coming back again for a second time, whereas it's a little bit more harder to put ourselves in Peter's position, because we do know the rest of the story. So I think, again, that's why some people look down on Peter at this particular point as to the way he's reacting to Jesus. I think that's our case in our day.

Speaker 2:

As we go through our life, we don't always know what the future is going to hold. We know some of the prophetic things, but I'm talking about more on our personal day-to-day lives. We really don't know what's going to happen in the future, and so we have to put ourselves forward and trust in faith and belief that Jesus cares for us and God is going to take care of us, and we're to pray to God, the Father, and get us through these hard times. So I think from that perspective we can then put ourselves in Peter's place. He doesn't know what's going to take place in the future, much like we don't know exactly on our personal lives what's going to take place. How many times do we turn and put things to where it's in our interest and things that we want to happen for our interest and things that we want to happen for our benefit versus things that are going to happen for the benefit and glorification of God?

Speaker 1:

Picking up on that theme about our benefit versus God's, peter thought that this was the point where Jesus was going to usher in the earthly kingdom. When Jesus says no, no, I have to go to Jerusalem and die and be rejected by the leaders. That didn't fit Peter's program. It didn't fit his expectations. Is it ever the case today that we hear something from the Lord and we find it to be unpleasant? We find it well, wait a minute, lord. That's not a very pleasant message. That's not something that I was expecting to hear. I was expecting to hear positive things that feel good. Now I'm hearing things from you, lord, that this doesn't feel good. This isn't something that I was hoping to hear. Is that ever the case today? Do we ever hear something from the Lord that we find to be quite painful?

Speaker 2:

I think it's more often for the times whenever people just read the Bible and Scripture that way, they don't read the Scripture starting at chapter 1, verse 1, and read through the whole book and go through it and study it the way that we have been doing here on Reasoning Through the Bible.

Speaker 2:

Glenn, Whenever you just go to particular places and look at particular things, then you can get to those points you say I don't like that, I'm going to go look for another place and something that's going to please me, or I'm going to go find a church or a pastor that doesn't tell me about some of these harsh things of judgment that are going to come, just as an example.

Speaker 2:

However, when you go verse by verse, I think you get a very full picture of Scripture and you also get a very full picture of God, His character and who he is, why he's doing the things that he's doing. And when you get that full picture, then I think it's easier to understand the harsh things that are there in Scripture as to why God might be doing it and what might be taking place, and as to whenever we get to particular places in our life, whenever there are harsh things that happen a loss of a loved one, loss of a spouse, family members. It helps you guide your way through that and navigate through it, because you have that full body of the Word of God behind it and not just periodic little verses here, little verses there. You understand God more fully.

Speaker 1:

Too many times I think people don't do thorough Bible study and they have this image of God that only rains down presents on my birthday and only does good things that feel good. Well, sometimes God sends us off to assignments that are just difficult. He has a purpose for us and maybe it's a really hard purpose. It's a really hard job. He may send us to a country to do mission work that's just a very difficult assignment. Or he may have a very challenging job or send us into a. That's just a very difficult assignment. Or he may have a very challenging job or send us into a church that's in great need, that there's a lot of issues going on in that church and maybe he wants us there to help with those issues. But it's not a very pleasant assignment and I think we need to be prepared to hear things from the Lord, even his teaching here, not so much sending people out, but he had a teaching here.

Speaker 1:

That was not what Peter wanted to hear. Sometimes we have to learn to bend our will and bend our teaching to the Scriptures and not the other way around. Notice here he rebuked Jesus and says no Lord. That's just a contradiction in terms to say no Lord, we sometimes find ourselves being given assignments by the Lord God that is for his purpose, but it's not always pleasant. Then, in verse 33, jesus responds to this with very strong words. In verse 33, he says get behind me, satan. Now he was speaking to Peter. But why would Jesus call Peter Satan? Why would he say I mean, this is the strongest rebuke that Jesus gives? Now, I don't say that lightly. If you turn over to Matthew, chapter 23, he rips the Pharisees up one side and down the other, calls them whitewashed tombs full of dead men's bones, calls them hypocrites. Several times here he does something that he didn't even call the Pharisees. This he called Peter Satan. Why would he have such a strong rebuke?

Speaker 2:

I don't think that Peter is possessed by Satan and I don't think that's what Jesus is saying here. I think he's getting a principle across to Peter. We talked a little bit earlier. Did they fully understand about the resurrection after three days? Here he's giving this message that, peter, you come into me and say no, it's not going to happen that way. Saying no, it's not going to happen that way, that's the same thinking that Satan has, and Satan is going to do what he can in order to keep me from completing the mission that I have.

Speaker 2:

Again, peter doesn't know what the ultimate mission is. He doesn't know about the redemption that's going to take place through Jesus's death, burial and resurrection, that he's going to pay our debt. I think really, it's Jesus in a most harshest way, kind of like a slap in the face to wake him up to Peter Eppes saying no, peter, you're working on behalf of Satan when you say that, because Satan is going to try and get in my way of fulfilling my mission. You need to get behind me, because you're not thinking of God's interests, you're thinking of your own interests. That's what Satan wants to do. He's thinking of his own interests.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. He's not saying Peter was Satan-possessed. What he's saying here is that the ideas that Peter were expressing were satanic. What was Peter trying to do? Peter was trying to talk him out of the cross. What was Jesus' main purpose for coming to the earth was to die on the cross and then rise again. That was the message that he had just given them. Again, verse 31, began to teach them that he must suffer and be killed. Peter came and tried to talk him out of the cross. That was a very satanic idea. Talking him out of the cross, get behind me.

Speaker 1:

Satan that's why he was so harsh was the ideas that Peter was expressing were from the pit of hell. This was something his main mission was to die on the cross, and the idea of Peter saying, oh Lord, this doesn't fit my program. Well, peter was thinking for himself and he was thinking what ultimately was a very satanic idea. It also says in this passage turning around and seeing his disciples, he rebuked Peter, which means all the disciples were apparently thinking the same thing that Peter said. It wasn't just Peter, it was all of them together that had the same idea. The rebuke was really to all of them. He was rebuking them because even the 12 that had been with him so long at this point didn't get this idea that he had to go and die.

Speaker 2:

As we're sitting here talking about this, glenn, I'm thinking if you had gone to Jesus and said, jesus, it's not going to happen that way, it can't happen. That way he turns to you and says Satan, get behind me, versus just saying Glenn, you don't know what you're talking about. Do you think him saying Satan, get behind me is going to get your attention a lot quicker and make more of an impact than just saying Glenn, you don't know what you're talking about?

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, by all means. I mean, this was something quite strong that he said on purpose to put Peter and those ideas in their place. What we're going to see here, as we read this next section, is that Jesus's tone has changed. He's starting to teach some very difficult things. Prior to this, the message was repent, but the kingdom is here. Now he's teaching some very hard things. He's teaching very difficult things, as we will see as we read this next passage.

Speaker 1:

I'll be reading, starting in verse 34, says this he summoned the crowd with his disciples and said to them if anyone wishes to come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospels will save it. For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul? For what will a man give in exchange for his soul? Now, steve, that is a very definite change in tone. He's speaking very cold, hard things. Now, when Jesus says these things again, what's the context? What had just happened in the chapter?

Speaker 2:

He had just explained to his disciples what was going to happen in the future. Peter rebukes him. What was going to happen in the future? Peter rebukes him. He rebukes Peter back, and now he turns and invites the whole crowd. So it's not just his disciples that he's making this address to, he's also including the greater crowd that is there at the time.

Speaker 1:

Right, exactly. He turns to the crowd. It says in verse 34, and said these things Get the picture. The confession that Peter gave earlier in the chapter you are the Christ. That was what he was trying to get people to realize. He was the Christ, the Messiah, the anointed one, the expected one that was prophesied in all of the Old Testament. Once he got that confession, he started teaching I have to go and die. Peter says no, no, no, no, you shouldn't die. He rebukes him get behind me.

Speaker 1:

Satan then turns around and starts saying if you want to follow me, you have to take up your cross, you have to deny yourself. How much is a man's soul worth? He's starting out talking about sacrifice and talking about the cost of being a disciple of me. He's giving a very different message. This is one of the true costs of being a disciple of Christ. He's telling this to everybody there, whenever it says the crowd, that means people that like him, people that don't like him, hangers-on, curious people. It's to everyone. He's telling non-believers this very harsh message.

Speaker 1:

Now, also notice here that in verse 34, if anyone wishes to come after me, this assumes that it's possible to have a wish to come after me. This assumes that it's possible to have a wish to come after me. So he's saying this to not just believers but the crowd, which means there's people there that didn't want to follow him. There's people there like Pharisees that's trying to trap them. There's just curious people that aren't sure. Yet he tells them if you're going to follow me, which means theologically that the crowd can have a desire to follow him. It's possible for people to have this desire to follow Christ, or else the message doesn't make any sense. The NIV says if you would come after me or want or desire if you have this desire is what the original says. So if we have a desire to follow Jesus, this verse gives three things that we're to do. What are the three things in?

Speaker 2:

there, steve.

Speaker 1:

He says there in the previous verse, in 34, that they must deny themselves, take up their cross and follow him Jesus had just accused the disciples of being quote mindful of the things of men and more interested in self things than in God's interest. Here he says you have to deny your self-interest, you have to take up your cross. What does it mean there, steve, when it says take up your cross? Because that's a phrase that people latch onto. What does it mean? We'll hear sometimes this phrase oh, I have this cross to bear Well what is Jesus mentioning here in context?

Speaker 2:

Jesus hasn't yet mentioned to them how he's going to die, because the Jewish way of disposing of somebody was usually through stoning. That's generally how they took their life. It was the Romans that did crucifixion. The cross was associated with crucifixion. The people around there would have known when he's talking about pick up their cross. As we see Jesus later on, as he's going to the area of Golgotha where he's going to be lifted up, he's bearing his cross and taking it with him. The people, I think, recognize that he's talking about a situation where it's death and you have to deny yourself of that. You have to deny yourself of the burdens of your life. You have to deny yourself of the things of this world and kill them, take them and do away with them and follow me. Later on, Jesus tells them take on my burden, because my burden is light and my way is the straight and narrow way. So I believe that's kind of what he's getting at there.

Speaker 1:

A cross was an instrument of death. It was for killing people. When he says, take up your cross, he means to take up the thing that's going to kill the self-interest, to take the things that are of my interest and destroy it so that I can do what? So I can follow him. He's saying deny yourself, kill the old self on the cross and follow me. He's saying, if you're going to follow me, you have to deny your own self-interest.

Speaker 1:

Now, this is why ministries that focus on self you know there's churches and different teachers and ministries that focus on getting ourselves wealthy or getting ourselves healed all the time, or getting ourselves to be promoted and to be growth in my interest. These types of teachings are offensive to the gospel. This is why they are so offensive, because what is he saying here? If you're going to follow me, you have to deny your self-interest. And these other churches, these other ministries, they're building up the self, they're focusing on the self, they're building up the things that feel good to the flesh.

Speaker 1:

Jesus says no, you've missed it entirely. You have to crucify the old flesh. The old desires are things you need to do away with. Take up your cross means to get rid of focusing on my own wealth and my own desires and what's good for me, and focusing on him. There's a lot of churches today that focus on self-interest, a lot of Bible teachers that focus on the self. Jesus says that's not the gospel. Jesus says you have to crucify the self, steve. How can we then deny ourselves Practical ways? What are we to do to deny the self?

Speaker 2:

Well, I think that we again through Scripture tells us that anything of the world is the enemy of God. We need to guard ourselves of what the world has to offer. Paul tells us that our citizenship isn't here. Our citizenship is in heaven. We've got to think about where we're going, where our ultimate destination is. Jesus, I think, refers to that. What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but yet loses his soul? We have to guard ourselves against the world. The world doesn't have really anything to offer us as a long-term benefit. Everything of the world is a short-term benefit. It satisfies our senses that we have, but this body that we have now is not going to be the body that we're going to have through eternity. We're going to have a glorified body. I think that's the main way to deny ourselves. We need to be careful of the world. And again, another place in Scripture it says be in the world but not be of the world. I think that's one way, probably the major way, to deny ourselves.

Speaker 1:

We just said that this passage here means to deny yourself. That's true. There are ministries that focus on building up the self, and that's against what he's saying here. The opposite is also true. There's also people out there in different religions, and even some Christians, will get into self-denial just for the purpose of self-denial. They'll get into denying the self and even injuring their own bodies sometimes, and you'll have people doing these just horrendously austere things around food and injuring their bodies and cutting themselves. To me it's just sort of odd self-denial things just for the sake of self-denial.

Speaker 1:

I don't think that's what this is saying either. It's deny the self to follow him. We deny the things that get in the way of following him. God is not a cosmic killjoy. He's not here just to make our lives miserable. No, no, no, that's not the point. He's here to fulfill our lives. By following him, we deny the things that get in the way of following him. But if there's something in this life that again you talked about our bodies, well, bodies are a blessing. We can feel good about our bodies and we can feel good about the things we eat and the things we do, as long as it's glorifying him.

Speaker 1:

We don't deny ourselves just to deny ourselves. That's not the point. We deny ourselves of the things that would get in the way and hinder our walk with ourselves. That's not the point. We deny ourselves of the things that would get in the way and hinder our walk with Christ. That's the point. That's what he's saying here. If you're going to follow me, then you have to take up your cross. You kill the things that are going to get in the way of following Christ. We don't focus on our interests, we focus on his, and then we enjoy ourselves in that. That's the goal here. So, steve, then he says save a life and lose it. What does he mean about he who wants to save his life must lose it. What's he mean there in that?

Speaker 2:

passage. The saving of the life is the eternal state, the hereafter. That's the life that he's talking about, the one that's saying losing it means that it's this life that you're leaving behind. I think that's what he's talking about. You've got to be thinking again of where we are and where we're going, versus just the here and now or what's going to happen in the next few decades of a life that you have left. Our lives, in comparison to eternity, are just a small blip. You have to think more of the long term. When you think of the long term, then you lose the things that surround this particular life that you have.

Speaker 2:

And I agree with everything that you were saying about self-denial. It's not bad in order to have a good job and to have a good house and have some luxuries and things like that. But if that's the focus of your life and to build up a reserve, you can't take it with you as the old saying. You've got to think about the long-term effect. I think that's what he's saying is to save your life, your eternal life, your eternal soul. You need to think about and lose the fact that you're trying to do everything here in this world, here and now, and realize that it's going to be a temporary life. That's here.

Speaker 1:

Verse 36 and verse 37 say this again. For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul? For what will a man give in exchange for his soul, steve? What is a soul worth? I?

Speaker 2:

asked Lazarus, who Jesus talked to, and he said can I just have a drop of water? He said can you go tell my brothers that they don't want to come here? I think that's a good description of what a soul is worth. It's worth everything whenever you make the wrong decision. We have the decision, here and now, to make the right decision. Don't make the wrong decision.

Speaker 1:

I'm reminded that some people have sold their soul awfully cheap, and in that passage you were just talking about, the man sold his soul for wealth and wasn't interested in spiritual things until after he had died and he was suffering, and now he wished he would have done otherwise. That's what he's saying here. He talks in verse 38 about an adulterous and sinful generation, which is in every generation, I think, Steve, even ours today is adulterous and sinful. He speaks of himself here when he says Son of man, coming with the glory of his Father and the holy angels. The term Son of man there at the end of this chapter comes right out of Daniel 7, verse 13, where the Son of man is on the throne of God and receives the eternal kingdom over all the created world. He's giving yet another claim to deity here, another claim to being the Messiah. He's using this title on himself. He's placing himself as the highest heavenly being, the anointed one. With this, I think it's just a great high point to end this chapter on.

Speaker 2:

As he's talking with them and he uses this term son of man will be a when he comes in his glory and with his holy angels. This is another way that I think he's introducing to his disciples that he's going to come again, that there's going to be a second coming, because they're trying to now put together what does he mean by death and resurrection? How does that fit into the kingdom? The kingdom is here. Here's the king, here's the Messiah. Yet here is that, coming in his glory, with his angels. That's also talked about by other prophets. Jesus is starting to give them glimpses of what his mission is. What's going to take place Also, I think, telling him this is going to be a first coming where I suffer, die and am resurrected. I'm going to have a second coming that's going to come when I come in my glory.

Speaker 1:

That last verse talks about his coming again. He says the Son of man comes in the glory of his Father. And I reminded there in the Old Testament it says more than once that God, the Father, will share his glory with no one. Isaiah 42.8,. I am the Lord, that is my name and my glory I will not give to another. Isaiah 48, 11, I will not give my glory to another. Yet here in Mark 8, 38, jesus says he will have the glory of the Father. And in John 17, verse 5, jesus is praying to the Father, talking directly to the Father, and he speaks of the glory that I had with you before the world was so. Sharing the glory of the Father, jesus is giving yet another claim to deity. He is yet another claim to be the God Almighty. It's such a high note to end this chapter on.

Speaker 2:

It is Now, as we get into Mark, and he's changed the way that he's teaching his disciples we're going to see even more and more great things as what he talks to them about.

Speaker 1:

Next time we'll be in chapter nine. Come back then, as we continue to reason through the gospel of Mark.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for watching and listening. May God bless you.

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