S34 || Unchanged in an Ever-Changing World || Hebrews 13:8-25 || Session 34

When the world won’t stop shifting, we need a center that doesn’t move. We continue in Hebrews chapter 13 to explore why Jesus Christ [The Messiah] is the same yesterday, today, and forever—and how that truth steadies our minds, our churches, and our everyday decisions. This isn’t abstract: we connect the unchanging character of Christ to the way we handle strange teachings, the balance between gospel proclamation and deep doctrine, and the difference between grace and external rule-keeping.

We dig into the contrast between dietary laws and the righteousness that comes by faith, showing how grace frees us from measuring holiness by trends or taboos. Then we follow the path “outside the camp,” where Jesus suffered and where His people often stand. Leaving the old life—whether religious status or worldly habits—comes with reproach, but it also brings clarity, courage, and hope for the lasting city to come. Along the way, we highlight practical steps: offering continual praise, doing good and sharing, honoring leaders who watch over souls, and fueling ministry through prayer.

The benediction calls God the “God of peace” who equips us in every good work through the blood of the eternal covenant. That peace is more than calm feelings; it’s reconciliation with God and confidence that He will defeat evil and finish what He started. If you’re craving a faith that holds when culture tilts, this conversation will ground you in Christ’s permanence and send you into the week with actionable wisdom—strong doctrine, honest worship, and grace-shaped living. If this helped you, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review to help others find the show.

Transcript

Turning To Hebrews 13 For Stability

SPEAKER_01 0:20

We live in a world that seems to be ever changing. You blink your eye and it's different. Nothing seems to stay the same. We have different foods, we have different ways of getting around, we have different communication patterns. Seems to be every part of society changes constantly. The only thing that is the same is that it is always changing. Well, today, on reasoning through the Bible, we're going to find out something that doesn't change, something that we can depend on that has been here always and will be here always without change. We're going to dive into that today. If you have your copy of the Word of God, then open it to the book of Hebrews, chapter 13. We're in a section here where it is talking about the practical parts of life. How do we live this Christian life? How do we put it into shoe leather? But as we're going to see, the doctrinal and theological teachings of Christianity are the foundation of how we walk and how we live on a daily basis. Without the teachings, then we would not be able to live a Christian life. Steve, can you read chapter 13, verses 8 and 9?

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. Do not be carried away by varied and strange teachings, for it is good for the heart to be strengthened by grace, not by foods, through which those who were so occupied were not benefited.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

It says here in verse 8 that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. What are the benefits of Jesus never changing? What can we hold on to with that? What does it give us as any comfort?

SPEAKER_00 2:06

We know where we stand with him. We also know who he is and where he stands. There's a great confidence in that. What are the benefits of having a good foundation to your house? Well, you don't have to worry about the house falling down or shifting. You have a good solid piece of foundation upon which to live. So I think that is a key benefit for Jesus Christ being the same today, today, as well as tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

Jesus gives us comfort. We can always depend on him. No matter what happens in the world, what morality might change in the culture, Jesus will be the same. We can depend on him. He held the same ways of being right with him in the ancient days and he does today, and he will forever. That is something that we can take comfort in. We also learned some great theological truths. He never changes, which means he doesn't change in his being what Jesus is, then he always was and always will be. Jesus did not start being God, nor will he stop being God. He didn't come into existence and he will not go out of existence. He didn't come to be God because that would involve a change. He will not stop being God because that would involve a change. Jesus was not born in the sense that he had a beginning point. His humanity had a beginning point. But the first chapter of the Gospel of John makes it abundantly clear that he was from the beginning. He was with God before time, in the beginning. The Bible tells us God does not change his mind. It tells us that in Numbers 23, 19 and 1 Samuel 15, 29. Hebrews 1, verses 10 and 11 told us that Jesus is Yahweh and quoted Psalm 102 saying, The heavens and the earth will perish, but Jesus will remain. Malachi 3.6 says, I the Lord do not change. The Old Testament tells us Yahweh does not change and is forever. Here, Hebrews, before it gets out of the book, gives yet another support for the deity of Christ when it tells us that he is the same yesterday, today, and forever. He did not come into existence, he will not go out of existence, and he always deals with us the same way. We can depend on him. That is great comfort. Because my friends, don't depend on me, I will disappoint you. All humans will disappoint you. Jesus Christ will not. When all else fails, we can depend on him. There's nothing dependable in the world. If you're depending on anything in the world, whether it be your own strength or your own intelligence or your own health or any of those things, then you will be sadly disappointed sooner or later. But we can depend on Christ. I just take that to be a great comfort.

Guarding Against Strange Teachings

SPEAKER_00 5:19

Yeah, dependability is everything. And it is a comfort to know there's not going to be any type of change that's going to come down the way, that the covenant that we have with Jesus Christ is one that he is going to continue to honor and to keep. I mean, it's just really the basis of everything in our belief.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

The next verse, verse 9, says, quote, do not be carried away by varied and strange teachings, unquote. Many passages in the New Testament warn Christians to be careful with the teachings, the doctrines, the theology. We're told that several places. Do not be carried about by every wind of doctrine, it says in Ephesians 4.14. Paul warns against, quote, the teachings of men in Colossians 2.22. The last things that the apostle Paul wrote, which were 1 and 2 Timothy, the last two communications, have at least a dozen warnings in those two short letters not to stray from the doctrine that Paul taught. He was passing on to Timothy and telling Timothy to pass on to the leaders, do not stray from the doctrine that I taught. Again, those two little short letters a dozen times, he says that, quote, instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines, unquote, in 1 Timothy 1.3. Right out of the bat, the first verses of 1 Timothy. Paul warns against, quote, whatever else is against sound teaching, 1 Timothy 1.10. Paul warns against doctrines of demons in 1 Timothy 4.1. He reminds them of the quote sound doctrine which you have been following, 1 Timothy 4.6. It seems to me, Steve, that there's a lot of churches that just never talk about the doctrine or the theology that's just not a part of their lives. Is it the case that there's sections of Christianity that think that the practical things, I mean, we should be giving and loving people. We just talked about that earlier in the book. Don't forget the strangers. We should be helping the poor and we should be reaching out to our fellow man, you know, helping all those things. But is the theology critical to Christianity?

Doctrine And Discipleship In Balance

SPEAKER_00 7:38

I think the theology is critical to making disciples. We've mentioned this before in our ministry that the gospel is good. It's a good thing to preach the gospel. It's a necessary thing to preach the gospel. It's what we should be doing. But if all you're giving your flock is a constant gospel, week after week after week, without any other type of doctrines or teachings, then you're really not getting them to a place where they are going to start maturing in Christ. As you talked about moderation in our last session, I think this is an area for moderation as well, meaning that there are churches that are just the opposite of that, in that they teach deep theological things every Sunday, and they really don't go into the gospel or ever teach the gospel at their services. I think that that is a mistake as well. So I think there needs to be an equilibrium and moderation between those two points in pastoring a flock and maturing a flock. We've mentioned also before that maybe a strategy is to give the gospel during the general assembly through the pastor and then have the deeper meanings and the teachings, the doctrines in the small groups. I think that is a sound strategy, as I've mentioned often before. However, not everybody goes to the small groups. But if that is part of your strategy, make sure that you also have something in place in order to get people into those small groups. That might just simply be to tell them, make sure that you get involved with a small group because that is where you're going to grow and mature in Christ, is in the small group. So if you're not participating in a small group, then you're missing out on the great part of the body of Christ. Moderation between those two extremes of teaching the doctrines and theology, which is important, and also sharing the gospel on a weekly basis.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Again, Hebrews 13:9, do not be carried away by varied and strange teachings. That's a command. It's an essential. He's telling you, do not. The core of our faith is the teachings about the person of God, the person of Jesus Christ, and how we're saved. The apostle Paul warned us about another Jesus with a different gospel in 2 Corinthians 11:4 and Galatians 1.8. If we have a doctrine that gives us another Jesus with a different gospel, we cannot be saved. And all of the social work is then for naught. The core of our teaching, the foundation has to be sound teaching. From there, we build our outreach to our fellow man. And from there we reach how to help those in the body and those outside the body. With that, the latter part of verse 9 here talks about foods not benefiting people. What is the meaning of that, Steve? It says, not by foods through which those who were so occupied were not benefited. What's this food that doesn't benefit?

Foods, Grace, And True Righteousness

SPEAKER_00 11:04

Well, I think this possibly is going to the dietary laws that the Jewish people were to subscribe to as part of the overall Torah. Of course, we saw that once Jesus came and fulfilled the law, that the dietary laws were lifted. We have the story of Peter and the vision of the sheet coming down, which was to give a meaning to Peter that now these dietary restrictions were no longer applicable or didn't have to be kept. You could keep them if you wanted to, but you shouldn't keep them in such a way that you thought you were going to have a righteous relationship with God as something of keeping the law before. So I think this is what it's talking about because it says, not by foods, rather by grace, and through which those foods who were so occupied were not benefited. So that to me speaks to them that they were regimentally, religiously keeping the kosher laws and the dietary laws, again, thinking that they were had a righteous relationship with God, whenever now things have moved on to Jesus Christ. And that is now how you can have a righteous and a proper relationship with God the Father is through Jesus Christ the Son.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

Paul makes this point in Romans chapter 14: the eating of foods is not something that brings righteousness to us. That's what he's saying here in verse 9. This is talking about the Old Testament dietary laws. The idea is that the obsession with kosher foods is not helping people be righteous. It may or may not be healthy for your body, but that's not what he's talking about here. He's saying that it doesn't build righteousness. Whether or not somebody eats a bacon cheeseburger has nothing to do with whether you're right before God. May or may not be good for your heart and your arteries, but it's going to do nothing one way or the other with your position before God. It doesn't make you more holy to change your diet. What is the only way, Steve, to be righteous before God?

SPEAKER_00 13:23

Well, as I mentioned before, is to have belief and trust in Jesus Christ. Christ means Christos, means the anointed one. It's the same word as Messiah in the Old Testament or the Hebrew scriptures. We believe that Jesus is the Messiah that is spoken about in the Old Testament. And we believe that he is God. And we also believe that his sacrifice on the cross, death, burial, and resurrection was one which was satisfactory now, and that we therefore have a right standing with God through Jesus Christ, because Jesus is God. Just as Abraham believed God in the promises that were made to him, and God reckoned it to him as righteousness, the same thing, and that our belief in Jesus Christ as being the final satisfactory sacrifice that we believing in that and the promises that he has given to us of eternal life, glorified body, and those other things that we've talked about many times in our sessions, that is reckoned to us as being righteousness as well. So our righteous standing before God is through the belief and trust in Jesus Christ, who we believe to be God Himself in the human form.

Outside The Camp With Christ

SPEAKER_01 14:42

Philippians tells us that Christ's righteousness is credited to the account of the believer. Our righteousness is not because of the eating of foods or the avoidance of things. We don't become more righteous because we don't smoke, drink, or chew, or go with girls that do. It's because we have faith in Jesus Christ. Moving on, verse 10 says this we have an altar from which those who serve the tabernacle have no right to eat. For the bodies of those animals whose blood is brought into the holy place by the high priest as an offering for sin are burned outside the camp. Therefore, Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people through his own blood, suffered outside the gate. Let us go out to him outside the camp, bearing his reproach. For here we do not have a lasting city, but we are seeking the city which is to come. Before we get out of the book, he has another comparison between the Old Testament sacrificial system and the life that we live today in Christ. What's the main point of that section that we just read?

SPEAKER_00 15:51

That Jesus is sufficient for everything in regards to the final sacrifice. There are no more sacrifices that need to be made. The Yom Kippur sacrifice was one which was to be burned, and it was to be burned outside of the camp. Paul is making the direct comparison there that Jesus was sacrificed outside of the city walls. He is that satisfactory sacrifice. They have something that is now better than Judaism itself because Jesus is better than the angels. Jesus is better than Moses. Jesus is better than the Levitical priesthood system. That is what Paul is finishing up with. He started with that in chapter one. Now he's finishing up with it in chapter 13. Jesus is sufficient. They have a better way now through Jesus Christ, and that he is their high priest, and that he is that symbolic sacrifice that was given outside of the wall. He had taken his blood into the tabernacle that is in heaven, and there he sprinkled it. All of this stuff has been outlined through the book of Hebrews, and we've gone through it very thoroughly as we've gone through verse by verse through all of it.

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Verse 10 says, We have an altar from which those who serve the tabernacle have no right to eat. What he's saying there is that those who are still holding themselves under Judaism, under the Old Testament judicial system, the Mosaic Law, they have no right to come to the new sacrifice of Jesus Christ and eat. They don't have a place here. He says, verse 11, for the bodies of those animals, and he's talking about the sin sacrifice from the Old Testament was taken outside the camp and burned, Exodus 29, 14. So therefore Jesus died outside the camp as the sin sacrifice. This is yet another fulfillment of Jesus Christ of the Old Testament picture in the Mosaic law. What he's saying is the people that are still practicing Judaism, they don't have a place in this new altar of Jesus Christ. But since Jesus was sacrificed outside the camp, just like the sin offering was outside the camp, verse 13, so let us go out to him outside the camp. Remember the position that these Hebrew Christians were in. They were cast out of the cultural system. They were cast out of the synagogues when they became followers of Christ. The writer here again, it's in this section that's a practical section. He's telling these Jewish Christians to accept the fact that they are outside of Judaism. They've been put out of the synagogue. Go to him outside the camp is to go to Christ outside of Judaism. Now, Steve, most of us are Protestants, for all of us, even if you're Jewish or Christian, in our day, when we come to Christ, we have an old life that we've left behind. That's what the main thrust of this passage here that we just read. These first century Jews that believed in Christ, they had to leave the old life. Today, with all of us, when we come to Christ, do we have to leave behind the old way of life or can we drag the old life along with us?

SPEAKER_00 19:23

Well, we mentioned that again as we've gone through our sessions that us as Gentiles, the comparison of leading and not being dragged back to is worldly ways. For them, it was the strict 613 laws of Judaism. For us, it's going back to those worldly ways that we had before. Yes, we should be leaving that behind. Now, that said, we're obviously still in the world, and we're not to be of the world, though, any longer, meaning that once we become Christians, we still have. To operate in this world, we still have to go to work, we still have to go to social events with other people that some may be Christians and some won't be Christians. We still have to operate in the world, but we have an old lifestyle that is one that is not pleasing to the Lord. We have a conviction within us that that is not pleasing to the Lord. And so that's the lifestyle, an old life that I think you're referring to, Glenn, that we are to leave behind when we become a Christian.

Praise, Good Works, And Submission

SPEAKER_01 20:33

We cannot stay in the old life and also accept and live in the new. He says in verse 14, for here we do not have a lasting city. The things of this world are not permanent. Instead, our Christian walk is in seeking the permanency of the new Jerusalem, the new city. We're told that in the latter parts of the New Testament. We're not here seeking the old way to try to reform the old culture. We're trying to bring in an entire new one. Just like is says in the verses, bearing his reproach, just like Christ was reproached by the Jewish leaders, these Jewish Christians were reproached by the same leaders. The Jewish culture cast Jesus out, and the writer of the Hebrews is saying the same will happen to you. Steve, when we come to Christ, can we expect some people, especially one of the world, can we expect some reproach from worldly people?

SPEAKER_00 21:35

I think it's a definite that we will, because they don't understand the things of the spirit. It's hard to convey to somebody what is happening within you, your spirit, and what has taken place to somebody that has no idea of how to relate to it or associate what's happening. It's just something that they have to experience on their own. But what it does do is it drives us because of what has happened to us and the sureness of it, it gives us a conviction to tell them about it and to convince them through various ways to become a believer. And I use that word convince loosely. You know what I'm talking about is to continue to tell them how they can be content, how they can be happy, how they can have burdens lifted from them. All of these things that we get whenever we become a Christian, a believer in Jesus Christ, we want to convey that to other people. Why? It's because we're convinced that our life has changed because it is changed. And we know how it is changed. That drives us to continue to try and bring that to the other people who have not yet become believers, even though it's hard for them on many ways to associate spiritually how their life will change if they just give up their selfish life and their worldly life and turn it over to Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

The next few verses give us even more practical advice on how to live the Christian life in our day. Verse 15 says, Through him then, let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that give thanks to his name, and do not neglect doing good and sharing, for with such sacrifices God is pleased. Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they keep watch over your souls as those who will give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with grief, for this would be unprofitable for you. Pray for us, for we are sure that we have a good conscience, desiring to conduct ourselves honorably in all things. And I urge you all the more to do this, so that I may be restored to you sooner. Verse 15 there tells us to continually offer a sacrifice of praise to God. The Lord is worthy of our praise, and we should continually let him know our gratitude. We should all ask ourselves, how often do I come to God and do nothing else but praise him? Steve, do we praise God enough?

SPEAKER_00 24:30

I know that I don't, and I know that that's a shortfall in my life. I don't give him enough praise for the things that he has done. We've also talked about this in many of our sessions as well, is that when we find ourselves in need, something that has happened in our lives, we're very quick to go to God to ask for relief from it, because we know that that's where we can find relief is through God. But then when that relief comes, we're not as quick to go to him with thanksgiving and letting him know how thankful we are and praising him for what he has done and what he has accomplished. I'm saying that from personal experience and a personal life. And I know that it is very much a shortfall with me. I just don't think that we give God enough praise as we should.

Pray For Leaders And Workers

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Says in verse 16, do not neglect doing good. Christians are to be charitable people that are active in doing good things for the church and for the community. We should be known because we are doing good. No Christian should be on the sidelines without having a ministry that does good for others. We should seek opportunities to do good for people around us. God is pleased when we sacrifice our time and do good works for people. And then it follows that by saying verse 17 tells us to obey our leaders. The immediate context is the church leaders, but would also include secular leaders. All Christians should submit to church leadership and submit to the secular government. All Christians should know this and do this, that we are good citizens. We are obedient church members. Pastors cannot lead the sheep if the sheep do not follow the shepherd. Pastoring a flock is a difficult job, and generally most pastors are overworked and underpaid. There's maybe a few bad pastors out there that are in it just for the money, but these are the exception. Most pastors need the help of the congregation. Wouldn't you agree, Steve?

SPEAKER_00 26:46

I do agree with that. As I'm reading this verse here, he says to obey your leaders and submit to them. And I'm going to speak to the religious leaders that they're now under. They were formerly under priests and rabbis. Now they're under maybe elders of a local congregation and church. Paul is encouraging them to treat them with the same honor and respect as they had with those rabbis and those priests before. Here's the reason why. They watch over our souls. A foundation, though, is that those who will give an account. So they have an important position, and it's going to be one which they're going to be judged different from an average person who is not in a leadership role. They have a greater responsibility in order to be overseers of a flock or a group of believers. Then the next verse there, it says, Let them do this with joy and not with grief. Well, if we're complaining and we're working behind the scenes to backbite or backstab a leader in our church, then we're just causing problems. And they can't properly do their job of shepherding the flock. If they're having to put out little fires over here that we're starting of descent or something else grumbling that is going on, then they're not really going to be able to enjoy their overseeing of the flock. The less we do of grumbling and causing issues and allowing them to oversee us properly, the greater that they're going to be able to enjoy doing it, and the greater that they're going to be able to effectively do it for our benefit as well. We should do it because we know that they're going to be held accountable for the things that they do.

The Benediction And God Of Peace

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Now, starting in verse 18, it starts with the end of the book. It starts the intro into the benediction. Pray for us. He's speaking in first person. So the receivers of the book of Hebrews must have known who this is, but it was lost over time. It says, pray for us. We should pray for our Christian workers. We should pray for our pastors, our leaders, our missionaries. The most successful ministries throughout the history of Christianity have had people praying for them. Charles Spurgeon was one of the leading pastors in London during his day. He's said to have had a hundred people in the basement of his church praying on a regular basis. He called it his boiler room. And his that was what was giving all of the energy into his church. My friend, would you pray for us? If you're praying for anybody, pray for the ministry here of reasoning through the Bible. We need it. Would you pray for us? The last section then starts the benediction, starting in verse 20. Now, the God of peace, who brought up from the dead the great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the eternal covenant, even Jesus our Lord, equip you in every good thing to do his will, working in us that which is pleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory forever and ever. Amen. But I urge you, brethren, bear with this word of exhortation, for I have written to you briefly, take notice that our brother Timothy has been released, with whom, if he comes soon, I will see you. Greet all of your leaders and all of the saints. Those from Italy greet you. Grace be with you all. Steve, which part of that benediction do you find the most comforting?

SPEAKER_00 30:36

I think I like the very last sentence there where it says, Grace be with you all. It makes me think that Paul was a southerner. No, I like all of it. I think this gives encouragement to the people that he has been speaking with, the Hebrew peoples that are there. And he lets them know at the very end here that he is a fellow believer. While, yes, he is a leader of the church, so to speak, he is also a fellow believer. He's part of the body of Christ, just like they are. He's asking for prayer for them, just like he prays for them in that one section there, that one verse, he says, Pray for me so that I will be released and be able to come to you even sooner than before. So he very much believes that prayer is effective in working in people's lives. And I think that's probably the most thing that gives me comfort is that Paul believes that prayer of fellow believers can be effective for other believers.

Cost Of Following Christ And Farewell

SPEAKER_01 31:38

This is a great benediction and can be read in church services as a benediction. It's a great literary piece. Look at verse 20. And he goes on to say, May this God of peace equip you in every good thing to do his will. Well, somebody on the back row is gonna say, How can God be a God of peace, though he sometimes uses nations to cause war? How can he be a God of peace when if we just read sections of the Bible, he took the lives of many people? Well, my friend, peace can only be achieved by defeating evil. As long as evil exists, there will be no peace. Only God can defeat evil ultimately and bring about true peace. If evil still exists, you will have no peace. A good God would not allow evil to continue. If he's a God of peace, he's going to destroy evil. For example, God used Israel to attack Canaan and then used pagan nations to attack Israel. Why? It's because Canaan had been sacrificing their children to pagan idols. God used war to destroy them and bring peace. Israel didn't destroy the Canaanites, and they ultimately accepted and started doing these child sacrifices. God sent in Assyria and Babylon to destroy Israel and bring about peace. If he is a righteous God, he will destroy evil and bring peace. Even before he gets out the door here at the end, he talks about doctrine. He says, resurrection again, who brought up Christ from the dead. Even in the benediction, he speaks of key doctrines like the resurrection and the blood of the eternal covenant. Steve, verse 20, who is the shepherd of the sheep, the great shepherd?

SPEAKER_00 33:35

Well, that's speaking of Jesus himself. There's also another aspect of this peace. Whenever the angels came to the shepherds at Jesus' birth, peace on earth, goodwill to man, that was talking about vertical peace between mankind and God himself. I think that's another aspect of peace that he's talking about here when he mentions this great shepherd of the people. Jesus himself came to bring reconciliation between mankind and God the Father. And so I think that is a great story that's here. And I think that's also why he's called the great shepherd.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

Between verses 20 and 21, the writer here is saying, May the God of peace equip you in every good thing to do his will. How do we get the power and the ability to do God's will? Well, the Lord has to equip us. We can't do it in our own strength. If we try to do God's will in our own strength, all we're going to do is get tired. But if he equips us for every good thing, then we will be able to do his goodwill. I find one little humorous thing here, Steve. In verse 22, he says this word of exhortation that I've written, this letter, for I have written to you briefly. Steve, there's a whole lot of heavy teaching in here. He calls this a brief letter. It would have been interesting to see if it would have been a long one.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Yes, I agree with you, Glenn. How many weeks has it taken us to go through this? We spent a lot of time to go verse by verse. And I think it's a wonderful thing that we have God's word where we can break it down and we can have these great discussions about theology and the teachings that are here. It shows us that the scripture and the gospel message is simple enough for a child to understand it, yet it's also complex enough to cause people to go into it and dig into it and understand the deeper meanings that are there. So I think it's just a great thing to have this scripture. And I think we're so fortunate to have this writer of Hebrews that has written to these people there that we are able to benefit from his writing to them.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

There have been 13 chapters of deep theological teachings and much practical everyday advice and commands. Yet the author calls this brief. Lastly, in verse 23, apparently Timothy had been imprisoned and was now released. The lesson there is that following Christ can cost us something. We saw that following Christ cost Jewish believers here in this book some things. They were persecuted, they had been taken and thrown out of the culture. Here we find out that Timothy had been arrested. Following Christ will cost us something. The book ends with this great last line: Grace be with you all. Steve, I could say that to our listeners as well. We're going to go ahead and stop here. We've reached the end of Hebrews, the end of another great book, but we urge you to tune in next time. We're going to start another one. This is what we do here, Steve, on Reasoning Through the Bible. I'd like to just remind our listeners, if you've been here this long, we have free materials so that you can teach books of the Bible yourselves. You can find that on our website. We'd also love to hear from you. Please give us feedback on what you found out of these studies. We'd like to hear from you. Be with us again as we continue to reason through the Bible.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

I've enjoyed going through this book with you, Glenn, and look forward to the next one that we do. Thank you so much for watching and listening. And as always, may God bless you.