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#187 After 2 Beers: A missing skull, a Midwest mansion, and a web of scams collide into one wild ride you won’t forget

• After 2 Beers • Episode 187

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A dog carries home a human skull. A grand Midwestern estate hides 10,000 bone fragments. A man fakes his death with a kayak, an e‑bike, and three flights to chase a new life overseas. We follow the trail from a bizarre headline to Indiana’s haunted true‑crime map—Fox Hollow Farm, Herb Baumeister, and the overlooked victims along I‑70—then pull back to ask harder questions about how stigma and jurisdictional blind spots let predators operate in plain sight.

From there, we widen the lens. MKUltra moves from rumor to record as we unpack what’s known about illegal LSD experiments, the Manson murders, and why “conspiracy theory” sometimes becomes “declassified history.” The conversation doesn’t settle every debate, but it sharpens the tool we need most: a habit of checking sources, tracing timelines, and recognizing when power hides the ball. That same vigilance applies closer to home. An EMT in the room shares indelible scenes from the field, and our true‑crime talk shifts to real prevention—Suicide Awareness, how fast a bad night can turn permanent, and why a simple call or check‑in can change the plot.

We keep the momentum with a sprint through modern scams and tech: a Wisconsin “death” hoax unraveled in Europe, an octogenarian duped by a so‑called astronaut “low on oxygen,” and a Florida dealer who flew a drone loaded with meth and fentanyl to the wrong house. Then it’s drones at scale—Ukraine’s battlefield lessons, cartel adoption, and the future of low‑cost, high‑impact warfare. Along the way, we share the weirdness that lives in parking lots and big‑box aisles, from foot‑fetish thefts to retail floor creepiness, as reminders that danger isn’t only cinematic. Curiosity isn’t just entertainment here; it’s self‑defense.

If this ride hooked you—midwest true crime, MKUltra history, scam‑spotting, drones, and real talk on mental health—tap follow, share with a friend, and leave a quick review. Tell us: which moment shocked you most, and what should we dig into next?

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Welcome to the After Two Beers podcast on Chris Dutch Dalton.

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Yeah.

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Joined by uh Jeremy Scaretti. What up? Jeremy, we got to come up with a clever nickname for you. We've got Pudding, we've got Dutch, we've got Gibbler with Kim Rock. Scarpetti. Scaretti, Sagetti. Scarpetty. In honor of Zach. Yeah. You know who gave you that? It was me. I know. And Zach stole it from me. Oh, did he? Yes, he did. Every time I seen him, he called me Scarpetti. Scarpetty. And uh Michael the Pudding Summers. What's going on? Uh, welcome to the After Two Beer Show. It's um, it feels like we haven't been in here in a month and a half. It does. It feels like it's been a minute. It does, right? God. Uh, as you can uh, if you're a regular watcher or listener to the program, you could probably already pick up the fact that uh Gibler's not here. What? Yeah, she's out running uh for mayor here in Richmond. Uh no, I'm serious. Put me at the big table. That's right. No, actually, she's uh helping put together some last minute things on a uh uh an event here locally that raises a lot of money for Parkinson. So um if you're not gonna be here, that's a much better option to be out doing good stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, right. So but it does allow Jeremy to sit in. So tonight we can talk about God, all about politics, French Indian War, all the stuff.

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Annabelle, ghost, uh ghosty, French and Indian War. Aliens. Even better, Disney porn. I'll get another one. These two. All the fun stuff.

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All right, as we're getting going, we want to make sure we thank everybody that makes this possible. Uh, our good buddy Kevin Shook here at um Global Media Enterprises. You know, he's had this working facility. Hey, there he is. Um he's had this working facility now for a number of years, and he's got a new studio and he's got mobile service. And uh, so if you're at least here in this part of the world and you need somebody to help you out with that kind of stuff, he's also pretty good with a drone. Yeah. We're gonna talk about that later. He does amazing work, you know, honestly.

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Yeah, very good.

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Very good. And uh so reach out to Kevin. Also, I want to make sure we thank our drink sponsors every uh every op episode we do now. Um, the bottle shop here in Richmond. And um what are we doing?

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You got note on it. Prices. Oh yeah. There you go.

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The bottle shop. Tonight uh we went bloody merry, and it's the reason I'm wearing this shirt. Tonight is the kickoff of the NFL season. This will be a very quick show for my own vested interest. But uh a bloody merry seemed like a very fitting thing, as well as uh the bottle shop here, Wheatley Vaca. Uh this stuff's$16.79. It's actually really good. It is really good, yeah. And uh we've got the bold and spicy Mr. and Mrs. T's uh five bucks. Now, here is the other thing that I want. So thank you so much to the bottle shop. Thank you to all the people down there. Um I will say that has become my place to go now to get anything just because of that. Awesome. Oh, you got to. Yeah, yeah. That it's it's local, you know, they're locally owned. So uh you gotta always support that.

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Where do you think these cowboys came from?

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There you go. I love it. Uh, our next shout out to go along with the uh the Bloody Mary theme. Uh, there's a uh local couple uh that is putting out uh their own version of pickles. They're actually really good. They uh they have two available right now. It is the uh Jax J A X Pickle uh cart. This is the fired up version. These go in the Bloody Mary's are phenomenal. They are, they're really crunchy. Uh the dill, I would give them a B. I'm just being straight. Like, you know, I'd give these an A. And I don't dislike the dill. If you like a very mild dill, yeah, they're good. I like a sweet midget, but they don't really make those.

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Well, they come out right. They're called little people. Jerkins. Yeah, it's getting worse. These are hot.

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They're hot, but not too hot. Oh, these things are on fire. Oh, they're good. They're good. They're so good. So uh, but no, what I they're really good. They're crunchy as well. Really crunchy. So um if you're looking for these locally or even online, I'm sure they'll probably ship them to you. Uh, just go to their uh Facebook page, Jack's Pickle Cart. These are the uh fired up pickles. Yes. Shout out to uh Doug and Jackie. They are spicy, they're really good, right? I'm our third one. Are you really?

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Oh yeah, they're good, man.

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He's gonna be holding water for three days, but he's gonna and this shit's gonna burn his ass tomorrow. Yeah. You get yeah, it happens.

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Man, you know what happens. I'm old.

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All right, you guys are ready to jump into the show. What do we got?

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What do you want to go with first?

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Well, you know, we um we typically do like a bonfire discussion, and uh I shared a story with you, it's probably been over a week now. Yeah, and uh it reminded me, uh, or reminded you rather of a um a situation here locally, yeah, here in Indiana. And uh so we're gonna chat about that. Okay. And uh then we got a couple stories. Um you know what's interesting about this story? So uh just to kind of set the scene here a little bit, here's the story, and this is weird anyway. This is our first story. Um it's not intended to be funny, but it's just weird. A um a lady, uh or excuse me, someone was dog sitting uh for a dog in Alabama, and uh this canine uh potentially is helping solve a murder mystery because it repeatedly brings home human bones.

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What the heck?

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Two-year-old German Shepherd Mix has dragged human bones home four times in the less than a year after finding them in nearby woods. The latest discovery appeared to be a part of a human skeleton. The remains were recovered and sent to the Jefferson County coroner's office. Uh so anyway, apparently this dog was spotted by this lady's husband. He was playing on the road next to their house with a human skull in its mouth. Wow. Yeah. Like, are we sure this isn't like an old burial ground or oh, an autopsy confirmed the skull had a bullet wound. Oh, geez. But no one matched the skull via a DNA profile. Five months later, the same dog brought home a human tibia, which belonged to the same person. This was all followed up in April when they also discovered a femur from the dog, and they continue to search the property and located a jawbone of the same victim. So this is wild too. It's interesting for me, right? The bonfire part in me is like, I wonder how many people are dead that are just not discovered all the time, right? And they're just right there in normal everyday life. Yeah. And uh it's just it's wild to me. So as I was telling this story to uh to Pudden, um, he gave me uh a story about uh what are they called? Fox the Fox Hollow Farms. Fox Hollow Farms Herb Baumeister? Yeah, I didn't know anything about this. Oh, yeah. No, like I I've been listening to all kinds of different podcasts lately, and uh I was listening to Joe Rogan's that he did like five years ago with a guy. His name was uh I think it's uh Jim O'Toole. Um maybe butchering his front name. But uh he wrote a book that was about the MK Ultra experiments that the CIA did. Yeah, I didn't know anything about any of this. Really? No. And that's what I I miss sometimes about after two beers, is we don't get into some of the history shit that there's a lot of cool stuff that's happened all over the world. All over the world, especially like here in Indiana. Yeah, I mean, and so as we were drawing towards um Halloween, we're only a few months away, one of my absolute favorite holidays. Yeah. And uh as I just found out about these Fox um Fox Hollow Farm Fox Hollow Farm murders, I was like, Pudding, let's talk about that. So I asked him to kind of fill you and I in. Do you know about this guy?

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Not just what we were briefly.

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Isn't that the wildest part that you could have a serial killer in like that if that isn't the most United States thing ever.

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And that's the thing, it's not like it's long ago. It was late 80s, early 90s. Yeah, yeah. He just he were dying in 96.

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Yeah. Died our graduation year. Yeah, killed maybe 40, 50. They don't even know how many. They don't even know. I don't remember it.

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Said he would uh frequent gay clubs.

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Well, let's go into it. Okay, so interest um you know save a lots in Indy? Nindy.

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Not to act like here in Richmond, not that save a lot. There's a bunch of them.

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He started them. Oh, okay. Yeah, and he was killing people the whole time. Was he a butcher? He was very weird. Um yeah, give us what's his name. First name, his name's Herb. Herb. That's right there, I should tell you something.

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Herbie. He was Herb. And even in school, the kids thought he was weird because he had to fetish with urine.

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Urine?

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Urine. He wanted he wanted to know what it tastes like.

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Well, you know that you can just you're not in a desert, you know, trying to.

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And him and his wife, his wife said that they had only had sex six times and she had never seen him naked.

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Really?

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He had three kids, though.

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Well, you said he he frequented gay clubs, so he was closeted homosexual. Yes. All right. So there's where we're getting into it.

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And that's where, you know, all these guys, gentlemen, we're coming from. Jeffrey Dahmer. Yeah. Yeah. And they right now have found over 10,000 bone fragments in his farm.

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So here's the interesting part, right? I I did a little back history today just to make sure I was prepared. So this guy's born in Indianapolis, and uh for a number of years, he was traveling up and down I-70 between Indianapolis and somewhere in Ohio.

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Yeah, I think it was Columbus, right? Okay.

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Yeah, back and forth. And uh all of a sudden, this is in the 80s, there's just homosexual men that are coming up missing all along I-70. Now, the cool it and this is why I'm just blown away by that. You've never heard about it. No, it didn't happen in my lifetime. It's not even outside my own era. No, and the other part that was wild to me is that I was looking through this, they found dead bodies in Preble County. Yeah, just right over the border. They there was a uh a believed individual that was here from Richmond, a Richmond resident that he killed.

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Yeah. He was la that guy was last seen with Herb, and he was found over and eaton in a so did Herb get caught?

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Did he die?

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Well, no, he uh guy So let me before we get to that, so he was doing this for the 80s.

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80s, like good. Well, when he bought Fox Hollow Farms in 91, that's when the I-70 murder stopped.

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Right. So the farm is just outside Carmel.

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Yeah.

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And it's it was like 18 acres. I can't imagine what it's worth.

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Yeah.

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It's literally right off 31. Yep. Uh just west of 31. And it's an 18-acre farm. And so when he moved there, 91, um, the all the killings on I-70 stopped.

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Yes.

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And then this is the place Putin was mentioning they found 10,000 bones.

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So did he move them there or was he like a big thing?

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No, he would take them back to his house while his wife was out of town, and they would party and he would drug them, kill them, burn the bodies, spread the ashes or bones everywhere.

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Uh on this property. On his property. Yeah.

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But you said he's been killing in the 80s, so what those were the bodies they were finding in the well, he's a he was the one that they're putting it on him, on the ones on I-70. Which means it probably was him. Yeah. But it could not. There may be. That's the wild part. You you don't know. You don't even know how many serial killers are out there that people don't even know about, right?

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I'll bring it up because it's on every TV program you can see. Zodiac killer. Oh, it's a great one. Yeah. That's a good thing. They never found they think he died.

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Well, that's then Herb, he had a the guy got away he was trying to kill that night, and he helped the police get a sketch of him. And once once they went to go find him, Herb took off to Canada and that's where he shot himself. He left a note, but he didn't say he the only said. Nothing. He said he was sorry for uh hurting his wife and kids, and that's the only thing.

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I read that the kids found one of the bodies and it was already burned, right? So it was just the bone.

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Yeah.

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And he was he had found the skull and put it on a stick and was chasing his sister around with it.

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But yeah, they said it well, he said it was his father's because his father was an uh anesthesiologist.

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Right. They said it was just like um a skeleton that he had at the house. And it was the kid was playing with the head. Yeah. Can you imagine killing all these people and your family doesn't even know?

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Yeah. Don't even know.

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There's probably more serial killers like you said than we'll ever know. I mean, just people.

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Well, and unfortunately like with the I-70 killer, they just put it on him, but a lot of these gentlemen, like they were gay in the late 80s, 90s, and the police were just weren't gonna investigate it, unfortunately.

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So it's wild to me that we have multiple serial killers out of the state of Indiana.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And like in this area specifically, well, because the one guy they thought might have done it was that uh Larry Eller. But he was already in jail for life in '86 for killing a kid, and he's he is known to have killed at least twenty-one boys and young men. But he killed him a different way. He didn't strangle him, he knew.

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Now, where's the guy in Indy?

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Yeah, he was from Indy. He was originally from uh Florida, came up from Wasn't there a house in Irvington, or AJ could probably help me? Uh this guy that's Larry Eller, his the only reason they linked him over here because his mother lived in Richmond.

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Uh well, that's wild too. Right. And then there was the lady that would have all the men come out to the house. Yeah, that was late, late 1800s. Yeah, here in Indiana. Yeah, there's so many serial killers from the state of Indiana.

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Put an ad out for a male suitor, they would come out, she would rob him, kill him. Wow. Oh, yeah. And she apparently got away. There was a house fire, but her body was never discovered. So they don't know where she went.

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Oh wow. And then there was that other guy that uh they did the series, the film about that uh he was killing women. He was a uh Civil War reenactor. His just wild. We get bored in any way.

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We watch them though. Like I do, I mean, I was criminal justice manager. I watch them, you know, and a lot of people in this country watch those serial killer movies. Oh, fucking women level, man. It is but it's wild. I didn't know anything about it. I do watch like the John Wayne Gacy one. I've seen that one. That one's crazy how he got caught by a a a ski ticket. Ski ticket, and yep. And uh some of the other ones, uh oh, what's the one that the in California he was the something hills killer uh Hillside Strangler? Hillside Strangler. And you remember the Green River murderer.

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Yeah.

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That was a big one too. Yeah. And they say that guy was 50 over 50 plus women hookers that he killed.

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Yeah, and that's the thing. You don't like especially here in Indiana, you don't hear about like Indiana killers. Like it's crazy. Well, yeah.

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I just it's wild. I don't I mean H How Yeah, that guy's up in Chicago. Have you ever heard of Castle?

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Uh up in Chicago.

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This guy would it was around the uh World's Fair and people would come and stay and he would lock them in uh this room. It was like they thought they were coming and checking in. Uh and he tortured them, gassed them. I mean, all kinds of stuff.

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Oh, yeah. All kinds of stuff. He had this house specifically built for this type of shit. Kill him.

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Kill house.

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Yeah. It was. Yeah, it was a mansion.

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It was in Chicago. Is it still up and running? Let's go check this shit out. I'm gonna be in Chicago. I'm gonna find this investigation.

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You can stay the night.

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I'm not doing that. No, I'm just kidding. I don't know about that.

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We do a ghost hunt.

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I actually think they tore it down, didn't they? I don't know.

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I think they tore it down.

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Well, they tore down the Jeffrey Dahmer uh where he lived. Yeah, that apartment complex. Yes.

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Well, that's uh because it was getting too much attention or something. Yeah. Uh well, it was that MK Ultra stuff that I've just been fascinated with the last 48 hours. And uh there's a um a Netflix show on uh you can watch it. I think it's called Chaos. Okay, and um it's two and a half hours. It basically and I will say I'm not a the biggest fan of Joe. I yeah, I did. And I'm not the biggest fan of Joe Rogan, uh, all his podcasts, but this one he did it like five years ago. Some of them are really interesting that he does. Yeah. And uh so if you can, you can go back and watch it. But it's all about how Sharon Tate was murdered. Oh, yeah. And uh oh the the Manson murders, yes, okay. And so Manson is tied to these murders through this MK Ultra, which was basically and and this is all proven. This isn't a um hearsay.

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It's true.

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Yeah, it's it's not one of those uh um that that Manson stuff's crazy though. Yeah. Well, what you know that guy, he was from Cincinnati, and the reason he went to federal prison is because he had stolen a car when he was a kid and he drove it to Indiana and was in Indianapolis, and he got put into a federal pen because it was that uh going across state lines. And they it was the Indiana Boys School, and they raped the hell out of this guy. He was a little guy, too. He was like 5'2, 5'3, he's a little tiny guy. And um their thought is is that the government, and this was proven, they had um uh Senate uh hearings on this. Yes, at the MK Ultra experiments, which were conducted by the CIA, which you're not supposed to do. FBI investigates all the shit in the U.S. Yeah, the CIA is all external, they're not allowed to do anything here. No, they'd be right, but they'd be doing shit all the time. So one what they were doing is they were giving these people LSD without their knowledge. Yep. So as an example, they would go to a brothel in San Francisco, and these Johns would come in, and the the prostitute would leave the room, and then they would either spray these guys with something, and they're losing it. Yeah, but they would never say anything because they got caught at a brothel.

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Yeah, yeah. You're yeah, you're not gonna say anything if you're caught somewhere you're not supposed to be.

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So the whole point of it is they were trying to develop the Manchurian candidate. Have you seen the movies? Yes, where it's basically someone that you can just say snap your fingers and they go and kill. Yeah. And the theory is now is that the guy that ran the tests in San Francisco was also working at the same place that Charles Manson was coming in and bringing those ladies in.

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Yep.

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And they think that he was dumping them full of acid in this test, and it went haywire, and they went and killed these people, and it was all because Charles Manson had this kind of control. And what's wild is the same. Listen, it's the same doctor that was given the medicine to Charles Manson and all those people that committed these murders, he was also the same doctor that met with Jack Ruby 24 hours before Jack Ruby was claimed to have gone crazy. And so they're like, we can't even put this guy on trial because he's a loony to me. And that doctor had met with him just the same fucking doctor just days prior. Yes, it's crazy. Now he's crazy.

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Now he's gone crazy.

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Yeah, so that's I think, I don't know, I it's conspiracy theory shit, but this ain't conspiracy theory. This is real shit. It's just proven, yeah.

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This has been proven now. It used to be a conspiracy, but now this shit has come out, and it's like, oh no, we did that shit. This is the kind of shit we can talk about.

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That's okay now, we can talk about it. Yeah, well, Kim's not around, so we can bring up like guy superior now like Indian Wool. But no, this uh and the guy's name was Jolly, which I think is funny anyway. Yeah, that's the best part. But uh no, look this shit up. It's so wild to me. Like this I'm blown away that there was a serial killer in our back neighborhood when I was a kid.

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And when you were a kid, I didn't know anything about it, dumping bodies right here, like literally right picking up kick guys from Greenfield, Eaton, Richmond, Indy, like at the Vogue. We've all heard of the Vogue.

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Yeah.

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He was he was seen leaving with one of the guys from the I-70 Strangler, leaving from the Vogue. Yeah, like Broad Ripple.

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He used to go to Broad Ripple.

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Yeah. He could have. Yeah. I mean, you don't you don't know. The guy from Richmond was supposedly left his apartment and was going to a place called Our Place. I don't know if that was here local or I've never heard of it in or in India or somewhere. But yeah, he was seen with him and he was found over and eaten by a bunch of kids. That's crazy.

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It's funny. Not that part. Uh Amanda and I, we were out on the golf course yesterday, and I hit obviously one of my balls into the woods. What? Yeah, and we're driving around and we're going down the line, you know, to see if I could find it. I go, this is how they find dead bodies. Random body. Oh, absolutely. Right?

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Like, oh shit, what is that? Oh shit, what is that? Is that a gamer?

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Is that okay? So let's ask you.

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No.

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Found one, no.

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No. Me neither.

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No. I think they had a bigger one. Oh yeah. That's you know, that's the thing. Like, I don't know. You think about uh like Kevin. Kevin would be great at this to talk about it. I mean, only from his EMT background. Yeah, what kind of dead body would you like to hear about? How many bodies have you had to like go and assist with? Oh. And how long were you doing it? 19 years. Oh shit. Oh wow, so each other. Probably 2, 250. Oh my god. Yeah. Alright. Like how many of them were like they'd been there for a while and it was gross as hell.

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Uh I had some that look like broth in a bathtub. Oh were they in the bathtub? Yeah. Oh. So they just heart attack or something?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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No.

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What do you do in that case? I mean, and I don't mean to be fixed vapor? No, I'm not. I'm talking about the body. Do you like, and I'm not trying to be gross, right? Right. Do you just go get a bucket or do you just pull the drain? Pull the drain.

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No, you don't want to lose evidence in case it was a murder.

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Well, we bounce once once we know the corner.

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Yeah, that's yeah, they're we're leaving.

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Why would you ever want to be the corner? Oh man. That seems like the fucking grossest job ever. Worst.

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You get a badge. I'll tell you what, though. I was driving on I-70 one time. And right there by the Heart Hospital, um, right in downtown. I can't meditate. Oh, in Indy. Yes. Okay. We're coming around the corner. There's 70 and 65. Heading back home. So heading back to Richmond. Coming around that heart hospital. And it kind of has a bunch of ways you can get on to interstation. That sucks. And I'm telling you, man, this is this is this is the closest thing I've seen to something like that. This car came as SUV came out of nowhere. We're going 40-50. Yeah, oh yeah. This thing comes off the off ramp onto the stage. Somebody clips them.

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Oh no.

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They go straight left. They don't no one hits them. It goes straight left into that C-Manette barrier. Cement barrier. By this time I'm I see what's happening, I stop. Oh, yeah. Everybody does. They hit that barrier, they hit that barrier and it starts rolling, right? Holy cow. It flips up and it starts flipping end over end, right? And I'm really close to this wreck. And I see two bodies, two women, fly out.

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Oh no.

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Okay? They go, you know those uh green um where it tells you where to go. Yeah. They flew over it. Holy shit. And then they hit the paper. Oh, interstate. Here's the creepy part. You see that, you're like, oh my god, what happened? Yeah, yeah, home run. Oh, over the over the sign. I get it now. You have to, so people are like that's morbid as fuck, Kevin. Hey, people are stopping, and you're dry, you're trying to get, you know, traffic's still going. Oh, wow. I drive right beside the ladies as I'm driving. Like, like this. Holy cow. Because you're trying to get out of the way. Right. Some people get out to see. It's bad. I I don't, I'll never take that out of my mind. Did they get hit by cars after they hit? No one got hit by cars, but they hit the payment so hard. So then I was like, man, I was disgusted. I couldn't drive for like an hour, pulled over, you know, was kind of trying to get my thoughts together. Oh, yeah, you gotta get out of here. I get home and I'm like, I'm gonna check. It was on the news. Yeah. They talked about I wanna I wanna say, I hope they live, but they were in intensive care.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh wow. I bet they were. And I'm like, it's probably because they were unconscious when they came out of that wreck. You know, if you're awake when you do it, it's worse. But I mean, that's the closest thing I've seen to something crazy like that.

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I bet.

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Not to go into a long story, but uh what's the weirdest one you've ever seen, Kevin? Autoerotic asphyxiation?

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As in dead body?

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Yeah, like like you're just like, huh. Well, I would have never expected that.

SPEAKER_00:

It was probably that one I told you. Did I the bathtub? My first uh MVA fatality. MVA. Motor vehicle accident.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, motor vehicle, yeah. I think you told us about that one.

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Up north, and it was a teenager, and uh she snapped her neck, so she obviously died, and she was, you know, her head was like this. And uh that's when we did do body removals where I was at. So we had to remove the body after it was investigated. So we did that, bagged and tagged, and then um that's when my space was big. And so I always kind of liked it, like I like to look them up to see what they did and what what kind of life they had until it ended. And uh in her profile picture, she she was like she does dance in school, and in their profile picture, she was on stage doing this pose, and she was like this. Oh wow, so she was in the exact same pose, her neck, her head looking like this, but on dancing on stage. That's crazy, and she was like 16, 17. Oh, that's horrible. So that was like the weirdest rough one there, but yeah, I've seen everything brain matter on washing machines. Um they would shoot themselves in the laundry room.

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Oh how many of them were suicide? A lot. Isn't that wild? And not and no, I mean like it happens way more frequently than I think people realize.

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Oh yeah, and and there's so many perspectives to it, too. That I mean, it is Suicide Month National Suicide Awareness Month. Um Yeah, there was a lot. There was there's a lot. Um what was sad though is the ones that like the hangings or jumping off elevated um areas because you know as soon as they do it, they instantly regret it.

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Well, that's what the until they have a couple survivors have jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. There's long been a few that have survived, and they say as soon as they jump, they regret it. They're like, Yep, nope, I shouldn't have done this.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh yeah, it's yeah, this is like 80 or 90 percent. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

As soon as they jump, they regret it. It's a uh a permanent problem to hopefully a uh short is short solution, yeah, short issue.

SPEAKER_01:

Permanent solution is short issue. If you guys it gets too bad, make a phone call.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, in half the time it's just a medication imbalance, or like me, I had to cut alcohol. It's just there's things that can trigger it can get fucking better. That's why we always say reach out, talk to somebody. All right, well, CNFL season. Yeah, we just we just did the outro at the oh we did, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Well, that's you know, you start talking about serial killers. Maybe we're gonna have to think about this better next time. We're trying to do a fast show. All right, let's do some lighthearted shit. Yes, let's get out of that. And uh we'll move on. But that's interesting shit, man.

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It is. Like you don't think like like the woman that I told you about, that Larry Eller, he killed, he's killed over 21 young boys and men.

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Crazy.

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In Indiana and Illinois.

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Like that you know of.

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That yeah, that's the wild part.

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Yeah. That's the wild part.

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But he's only on the death row for one.

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Does anybody know what the number one serial killer is for most deaths that's been recorded?

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It'd be in it, I think they say Jim Jones. They consider Jim Jones the like 700. It was over nine, I think.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, there's quite a few. Yeah, I don't know the number exactly offhand, but that's a lot.

SPEAKER_03:

That's one act, though. There's some that do like the BTK guy, he did a bunch, and uh, but he didn't do that many. That toy box killer.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, that dude was fucked up. It was with his daughter. Yeah.

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Oh, anyway.

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Yeah, anyway. We can talk about that guy who loves some cereal.

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Oh, that's campfire shit right there, man. What do you think?

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I listen to at work all the time.

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Is it? Oh, yeah. You're like, man, this guy. Who's your favorite? You have a favorite?

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A favorite. No, I don't think I have a favorite, but I think they're just all interested, like they're all state of mind.

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The most odd one to you, or the one that you're the most intrigued by.

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Well, that herb. Is it really? Because they don't know. He never admitted to anything. They didn't catch him, he killed himself. I mean, granted, I'd say the zodiac for me he did it.

SPEAKER_01:

The zodiac. Yeah, because it was it was weird. Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean you got a photo of Hillside Strangler, the Green River murder.

SPEAKER_01:

Dahmer's a weird motherfucker. So many good ones. Yeah. Yeah. AC fucking clown. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. He had his picture taken with the first lady.

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And the BTK killer, he's still alive in jail. And the only reason he is is because he uh he pleaded out and tell his story so they wouldn't kill him.

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Yeah. And that's the wild part, isn't it?

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And so they wouldn't kill him, but you know, hey, what I did.

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For the only actor. Yeah. You would think they would keep him just uh um find out where the bodies are. Ed Gain.

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Ed Gain was a good one.

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Yeah. Well, these people aren't of right mind. Right. And a lot of them are uh psychopathic, so they don't or sociopathic. Yeah. So they don't have feelings. They don't give two shits if you find the bodies or not. They don't care if somebody has a bone they can bury so they can get final. I mean, i I don't know how it's it really comes down to what we were just saying a minute ago, and I can't get off the subject because it's just wild to me. I mean, that's it, that is definitely a campfire. Mental health is a real problem in this country.

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Ed Kemper, like, he's another one. He picked up college girls two at a time when we kill him. He killed his own mother. Had sex with her skull. Like from Indiana? No, I don't think he's from Indiana, no.

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Thank God. I've never heard of him.

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Uh Green Bay. Yeah.

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Never heard of him.

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Go back up.

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Yeah. Never heard of him.

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You're welcome for Micah.

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You can have him and his injuries. Uh hey, I'll take him. All right, let's get into some shit then. What do you got? Uh, you know, I love that these people are piping in. Logan Hoover, Jim Jones, responsible for the only U.S. active congressman shot. They went down to investigate it, and then they just shot up their plane. And then some of those people had to fake being dead to survive the moment. They were shot and laid there for like 24 hours or something with bullet holes in them. Wow. So many interesting shit out there. Quentin Schuler, the Netflix series, Fuck Hollow. I don't even I didn't even know about this. I didn't know that was out there. Yeah. Easter Sunday Massacre in Hamilton, Ohio. This is the wild part. I find this chef interesting as shit, but I don't think I don't believe in ghosts at all. Like they talk about, I mean, there's gotta, if there was gonna be haunted places, that would be you think that'd be it. The place in Westfield. He killed those 25 boys and men in the basement in a swimming pool.

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And burned their bodies and buried them in a in a backyard.

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And you can go, the house is still there. Still there. And that's the other wild part is you can buy these houses and live in them if you want. That'd be messed up. It would be messed up.

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Imagine doing podcasts in the basement.

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I would do it. I'd be able to do that. We'd do it in the pool if they let us to the pool. Apparently, the guy that's a swim. You can't trust anybody that has an indoor pool in Indiana, right? Because we don't really have that kind of money. See, that's fucked up.

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What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_03:

You need to be closer to the mic.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

What else we got? What's our light hired stuff?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, let's get into the A to B shit so I can go eat some chicken wings, watch football. All right, here's our first story. Speaking of dead guys, a 45-year-old man from Wisconsin was in court this week after he faked his own death, abandoned his wife and three kids, and fled the country. Fled the country. To go uh be with his mistress in Eastern Europe. It happened one year ago this month. This guy's name's Ryan Borgward. And uh he made it look like he drowned while he was kayaking last August, but they never found his body. Okay. He staged his kayak in a lake, paddled an inflatable raft to shore, rode 70 miles on an e-bike, took a bus to Detroit, then Toronto, hopped three flights to Paris, Asia, and back to Europe. And it turned out he had been taking uh talking to a woman from Uzbekistan that he had met online a few months earlier. Oh, I bet. This guy, talk about like he must have just really hated his own life.

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I know Down to do all that shit.

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That he met this person online for a few months and he faked his.

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I'm sure she had millions of dollars over there, too. Oh, he probably was catfishing. It was a dude. It was a dude over there.

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Cops eventually found out he had gotten a new passport, taken out$375,000 life insurance policy and reversed his vasectomy so he could start a new family. That dude had to be miserable.

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I mean, that's a lot of work. Yeah. You think it's because he lived in Wisconsin? Is that what he said? I bet his wife was mean to him.

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Yeah.

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He must have really hated his kids. I mean, to do all that, I so they uh they finally tracked him down in Georgia, the uh the country, not the state. So he's out there in uh that's the that's um Middle East. I mean, that's that's not even Europe then. Uh they got him back home to the U.S., charged him with obstruction. Now, here's an interesting thing. Wisconsin doesn't have a specific charge for faking your own death. Holy cow. Wow. So he was looking up to nine months in jail, and he agreed to a plea deal that lowered it to just 45 days. Are you serious? You think he got back with his wife? No, I'm pretty sure not. Now here's the interesting thing. Maybe he got his family back. The uh judge rejected the deal, doubled it, so he spent 89 days uh in jail.

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And they came on like insurance fraud then.

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Uh he also had to pay$30,000 to cover the cost of the search and rescue. And uh he said at sentencing, I deeply regret the actions that I did that night and all of the pain that it caused my family and friends. His wife of 22 years filed for a divorce two days after he got back to his hospital. It's not clear if the mistress is still in the picture. Must have been some good who. I'm gonna say no. It was all conversation at that point, too. It's amazing how many people can get taken by social media.

SPEAKER_02:

We talked about that last time on that last one. They females were paying this uh lady to hit on her guy text message, and they fall for it.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh my gosh. Well, that actually takes me into another story came out of Japan this year, uh, this week. Same kind of deal. Let me find it here. Ah, here we go. A woman in Japan, she's in her 80s, fell for one of the uh romance scams that you hear about. Now, this is this is a wild one. No, this is way different. Uh, this happened back in July. She started talking to a guy on social media who claimed he was an astronaut. She kept talking to him and developed feelings. Oh shit. You're lying to me right now. Now, here's the interesting part. So she ended up giving this guy one million yen. It was$6,700. Okay. Okay. But this is how he clinched the deal on how she he needed the money. He dropped the hammer one day. He claimed he was in trouble. He was in space on a spaceship, and he was under attack in his ship. And he needed money to buy more oxygen. He was low on oxygen, and she agreed. Was he playing a video game?

SPEAKER_02:

So no. Seriously, man.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, officials in Japan shared the story and said to be suspicious if someone you met online asks for money. That and he's an astronaut. I gotta tell you, I'm probably gonna regret telling this story eventually one day. My mother told me a story one time. This was years ago, and uh some guy reached out to her, right? And she accepted the friend request and he started messaging her. And I said, Mom, this is so fucking fake. Yeah, like you know you're you know, and you're like, and she's like, No, she goes, He he must be real because look at all these mutual friends, and they were all a bunch of middle-aged and older age women that this guy had friended that were here in town. I knew a bunch of them. Oh, wow, right? And my mom's like, you know, he's so nice to me and this or that. And I said, I'll tell you right now, if you want to have a pen pal, have a pen pal. I said, but you do me one favor, let me know the moment he asked for money. Oh, yeah. I said, it's coming. Oh, it's coming. You know it is, it's coming. Yeah, I just need you to let me know when it happens.

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Can you send me a couple dollars for what it was?

SPEAKER_03:

That's what it was. So he was in the military. Yeah, it's always the military trying to get home. He needed phone cards to be able to call home. Yeah, you know, and and she she she said he asked for like$400 on these uh like Visa cards, right? And she's like, No, I can't do it, I can't, I just don't have any. He's like, Well, I'll take 200. 200 I start high and then go low. Yeah, and she got everything. And then he got pissy with her, yeah, right? At the end, and I'm like, it's because he's fucking fake. I said, He you are probably on a bulletin board and you are a funnel. Yeah, you like sales, and when he's like, Oh, I've got these three, the stage three, yeah, and I only need a couple of them to work for me to and I don't even probably live in the country. Nope. This stuff happens all the time.

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I was just listening to a podcast the other day about a guy that goes online and actually they track scammers. They get them to call them once they get a hold of them, you know, because scammers are told to stay on the phone as long as you can to get they get them to click on something, get access to their computers, and just start, hey, you know, Ramesh. How are you doing? That's not my name, my name's Daniel. No, no, it's Ramesh, you're sitting right here, this computer, this camera, next to this, next to them, and then they freak out. And then they put a virus on a computer and shut everything down.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, the movie Beekeeper. Yeah. I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_02:

Jason Statham.

SPEAKER_01:

That's an amazing movie. Is it good? You have got to watch it. What you're talking about, um, I won't tell you the whole story, but at the very beginning of the show, this old lady that he has works on their farm with the bees, they take everything she has. Like millions or something, even her trust fund. And so, and then she kills herself. Or I think that's what happens. Well, that's how the movie starts. Well, they try and bust him. What what what it was was he goes and finds these people. And they're all sitting in a building making fun and that's the thing now.

SPEAKER_02:

They're actually working with the India police that are actually starting to crack down on these places.

SPEAKER_01:

And he burns the damn thing down.

SPEAKER_02:

But unfortunately, a lot of these people that are doing it are you know, yeah, people that don't have money, so they're promising them all this money and stuff.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, man. Yeah. It's wild what's going on out there, man. Don't fall for it. Speaking of which, here's another one, and I'm sure we're gonna hear way more of these kinds of stories. Speaking of drones, we talked about these earlier.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

According to deputies, uh, Jason Brooks was arrested after allegedly flying a drone loaded with meth and fentanyl straight into someone's house. What? Uh, this was in Florida. It's about 50 miles north of Tampa in Lutz or Lutz, uh, Lutz, Florida. According to the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office, it was the bizarre late night incident began when a local homeowner reported a man showing up at her door asking if he could retrieve his lost drone.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03:

The guy sent it to the wrong fucking house.

SPEAKER_02:

At least it was a house, not to a prison.

SPEAKER_03:

Are you serious? Oh man, I've seen where they've trained cats now to deliver drugs. Oh man. Um, the man was later identified as 49-year-old um Jason Brooks, who insisted his device might have crashed in the backyard. Deputies responded to the scene, and a body cam video shared by the department shows them retrieving the drone. Uh what they found to it was uh it was pretty bad shit. It was multiple bags of meth and fentanyl, some even labeled with names. Oh, wow. Yeah, this guy's a real dum dum. Yeah. Uh investigators say the discovery left no doubt about what the drone was carrying. Uh the bags confirmed were uh they were contained and confirmed for both matters.

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Well, you know drones are gonna be used in a military. Oh, they're oh, they already are. And here's the thing they're putting missiles on them. That door sucks. You know, they're trying to figure out how to well think about this too. Electronic, uh what's some EMPs that they're trying to do? Yeah. So if they shoot an M EMT and all electronics, now they're trying to figure out how to do it without having electric. So all these all these things, missiles, how you launch a missile without having electric. Right. Well they're very interesting what these drones are. Well, you even did the story with uh how small they are, you know. Oh, the one that was the size of a mosquito.

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Well, if you look over in like the Ukraine, you see all the fiber optic cables everywhere that are connected to drones.

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Well, that's the wild part. Uh what Ukraine has shown is that um wars for at least the next few years will be fought with drones.

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Oh, absolutely.

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And China has developed this master drone that is uh it's like 25 yards wide, right? Oh it comes up and over wherever they want it to go. Maybe it's a plane even, but and it's loaded with other drones. Oh, it shoots them out. And it drops them out. And so what Ukraine has done, and they're fucking geniuses for it, right? They were delivering these things to Russia so they didn't have this master drone, it was in a cart. And when they got, they delivered them right outside the Air Force.

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They were all on their on top of the roofs, they were covered on the trucks, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, and they took off and then they go and they blow up and so I it it's a yeah, they took out the all the the planes, the airplanes.

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Loaded with C4. Yeah, they're these trucks rolled in, and they're gonna be able to get the drive it into it, boom. They don't know they're getting them, so they just come in, they park these cargo trucks right here, they blow the tops off the roofs, and then all these drones come out.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and just crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

It is crazy. They're all the all the drones are programmed to go hit something. So as soon as they park, they're go here, here, here, and that's why they're hitting all the planes, the tarmac, so they can't take off.

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That's the future, man. I'm telling you. It's crazy. And that well, they they still talk about the fact that um earlier this year in New Jersey, where they had all those drone signs.

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Yes, all that.

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And it just no one ever You don't talk about that no more.

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No, you don't know what that was.

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Well, they went away. It did. Well, they think they were looking for a lost warhead. I didn't know they did say that.

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Think down how many were missing? 18. 18. They did say that.

SPEAKER_01:

They were looking for those drones, those things were looking for radioactive.

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That's just us.

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That's wild. That's us. Russia has shit that they don't even know. 18 missing warheads. How the fuck do you misplace a warhead that's got nuclear capabilities?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, we have an underground tunnel system in the United States that transports nukes. Well, I believe that.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, actually, that's what uh Elon Musk wants to do with future travel. Anyway, man, we are going down the wild passion. We're talking about guy cool shit. I don't AJ, is this interesting at all? See, she's the lady, she prefers this kind of shit too. Yeah, all right. Uh, but anyway, one of the things that I've seen is um the uh the cartels are really getting into drone technology as well. And they're sending people to Ukraine to fight in the war just to learn the drone warfare. Yeah and they're coming back, and I guess in California, they have lots of wild farms and they're growing. And I told AJ this story. They're making like not to be a smart ass, but Mexican, you know, dirt weed.

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Yeah.

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And then they you they lace it with fentanyl to make it better. Make it stronger, yeah. And they're using drones to to see if there's people coming in on them. They're flying. I just it's all over.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Oh my god. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01:

It's the did you look up the story about the uh cartel being blown up by Trump?

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No, I didn't have to look it up. I saw the video of the place for Venezuela.

SPEAKER_01:

Did you see that?

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Dude, I played Call of Duty all the time.

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I told I told Dalton, I said, we can talk about that.

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And he's like, when's the last time they put a$500 million bounty on a president's head? Oh, I don't think it's$500 million, but it's only quite a bit.

SPEAKER_01:

Did you see the tanks that they that Venezuela pulled out from they got from China and they're in the water and they're they're saying they're attacking us, and they said they got four, they got four point five million troops ready to fight.

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Yeah. You know what I've learned? You know, you brought a troop to a drone fight. Yeah, right. I mean, it troops don't matter no more. They really don't.

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I the the way you can That's what they're trying to do away with.

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Troops don't matter no more. The way you cap like, honestly, if you wanted to hurt any country, especially the United States, you figure out a way to knock out our electrical system for just two days.

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It's easy.

SPEAKER_01:

No, that's my point. But that's what Trump said. That's what Trump said when he came into office. He said, your guys' electrical system sucks.

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Well, you know where most of our uh power grid stuff's made it, right? China. Well, it's cheap. Made in China. That's what I'm saying. They have found a lot of that stuff that comes back has a kill switch on it.

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I agree with you, man. Man, we are look at AJ. She's shaking her head, she's like, You guys are on the deep stage. Yeah, we are. Oh my god. All right, what are we doing? All right, let's do one more and let's get out of here and go eat some chicken wings. Uh-da-da-da. All right, this one's a goofy one to end. This is why I'm so glad I was born a man. I think women probably go through shit that I'll never know. AJ's probably she works at a store here locally that has just some of the finest D-bags that you've ever seen. Sure. Walk into the place. I mean, let's just I mean, I've worked retail. It's not pleasant.

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No.

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Have you ever worked retail?

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Yes, I worked at Lowe's for 10 years.

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I worked at Elder Beerman. Did you like working retail? I was loss prevention.

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Oh, you got that. I loved it. That would be kind of fun. It was. Anyway, uh, this comes to us from Florida. This is one of those weird things that women and only women seem to have to go through. A woman in Florida told police that uh she met up with a 28-year-old man named El Moncy Circle. Um look how is that right? Is that how you'd pronounce it?

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No.

SPEAKER_03:

El Moncy?

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

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Circle? Circle? Sakaya. Sakaya. Circeli. It's Italian, okay? Uh in the city cool. She uh she met this guy named uh El Monsi at a hotel on Sunday afternoon. This was last week. She was gonna sell him a pair of used shoes. When she got there, he asked to sniff her feet. She wasn't cool with that, so he turnedfinder.com. She turned him down and he got upset. He grabbed the shoes and ran out into the parking lot. Yeah, he's probably smelling them the whole way.

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I love it.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh man, he probably it was hard to run. He probably had Kickstein going. She chased after him and confronted him, and that's when he hopped into his SUV, did a three-point turn, and hit her. Oh shit. Uh fortunately, she wasn't seriously injured. She called the police. They arrested the guy and charged him with aggravated battery.

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Yeah.

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Um apparently there are similar incidents on this guy's record. Per feller. I was gonna say anyone do a smaller fee.

SPEAKER_02:

Have you heard about the guy in California?

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What's that guy?

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The serial butt sniffer?

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Yeah, they caught him though. Yeah, they caught him. But sniffer? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, he would go around and sniff.

SPEAKER_03:

He was riding bicycles, right? And he would walk like go up behind somebody and just sniff their ass.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah. Dog style. And like in department stores, too. They caught him on camera doing it. Stop.

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You ought to see some of the stories I don't bring. Oh yeah. Absolutely, Dan. Dan is right. These people are fucking weird, man. There was a guy that was arrested just last week, and he got wrestled, I think it was at a uh a convenience or not a convenience store, like at a department store. And he was walking up behind women and just taking pictures under their skirts and stuff, right? And when he got arrested, he's like, I I'm allowed to, this is my job. And they're like, What do you mean? He goes, I put these pictures on the internet, I sell these to people. This is what I get paid to do. Oh, wow. And just like not even like non-store. Yeah, well, like, hey, well, I'm telling you. Are you paying these people? No, I doubt it.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, back to the feet sniffer guy. Poor guy. Just let him smell them feet. You know, I'll give you 20 bucks. You can smell my feet. That's it.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm telling you, man. That's why I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02:

You don't like no guy feet.

SPEAKER_03:

Would you let a random dude smell your feet? Hell yeah. You would not. 20 bucks. We're getting ready to go have some chicken with you. 20 bucks. We'll go. 20 bucks. I'll find somebody at frickers. I'll let them smell my feet. What if he said, hey man, can I smell your feet? I'll give you two dollars. I'd do it. Two dollars. Yeah, two dollars ain't gonna buy that's fucking weird.

SPEAKER_01:

It's gonna buy you a beer with frickers tonight on Thursday night. So you guys are gonna think about opportunity though. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03:

I just feel like I don't want to be around a guy that wants to smell my feet. All right, let's wrap this up and get out of here. Jesus Christ, this show's gone off feet. I love it. That's the best. I don't know where we went wrong today. Where's Kimmy when you need her? All right. Let's wrap this one up. What do we got? Uh we want to make sure we thank everyone, especially our Patreon sponsors. Uh, if you want to support the show, we greatly appreciate it. All you have to do is go to patreon.com backslash after two beers. And uh for as little as$3 a month, um you can uh support the show. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. Uh thank you again, our buddy Kevin. Lots of opportunities here at Global Media Enterprises, if that's something you're looking to do. Thanks to the people that support the show. Crosstown carryout, crosstown beverage shop, bottle shop, bottle shop. I said that last time. Bottle shop. Bottle shop, appreciate you guys. Um pickles. Get you some pickles. Uh it is uh Jack's Pickle Cart, J A X Pickle Cart. You can check them out on Facebook. All right. Uh we say it at the end of the every show. It is by far the most important thing we say, and it is it's this, you know, and we talk about people with mental health. Uh, mental health is a real problem in this country. And you know, I don't want to get into gun debates or any of that kind of stuff, but you know, a lot of these people have some serious issues. Yeah. And you can prove that uh there's no money in it because we don't have them anymore. Used to have mental institutions. We didn't know what the hell we were doing. We were shocking the shit out of people, but uh we close them down. Now we let the jails deal with it for some reason. But uh there's a lot of people out there that need help, and then there's a lot of people that are normal folks, just like this poor guy in Wisconsin, hated his wife and kids, had to move across the world to get away from them. You don't have to go to that extreme, you know. But more importantly, if you're ever just struggling, um just reach out to somebody. Definitely. Um you'd be surprised how just chatting with somebody that uh is on on a bad way can uh can turn everything around. Also, if you know people that um you know maybe they're living alone, um just check on them.

SPEAKER_01:

You know what the number one thing is? Just be nice.

SPEAKER_02:

Be nice, be nice, ealy.

SPEAKER_01:

It doesn't cost anything to smile at somebody, not creepy though. No, but just be nice.

SPEAKER_02:

No, just reach out. It's important. Yeah. If you're struggling, if you see somebody struggling, make sure you reach out.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02:

Don't think you're a burden.

SPEAKER_01:

It's and you're not alone. Don't ever think that. No.

SPEAKER_03:

All right. I appreciate you two gentlemen. Thanks again, Kevin. AJ for sitting in with us in the uh the old studio there. Thank you. Uh well, I guess without further ado, it's NFL time. It is time. Pudding. We will talk to them all next time. After two mean.

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Oh, we got it. Take me home! Take me on home.