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#188 After 2 Beers: A spirited deep dive into Charlie Kirk’s assassination, online backlash, and why free speech can cost you your job but shouldn’t cost you your humanity.

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A political killing, a social media pile-on, and a bigger question: how free is free speech when your boss is watching? We crack open a local tequila and dive into the week’s most volatile story with clear eyes and real talk—no shouting, no dunking, just a hard look at what the First Amendment protects, what it doesn’t, and why at‑will employment turns tweets into career risks. From the vice president’s call to “name and report” to hundreds of people losing jobs over posts, we ask where accountability ends and petty punishment begins.

We map the actual boundaries—FCC rules, George Carlin’s seven dirty words, landmark cases on symbolic speech—and contrast U.S. standards with countries where online comments can trigger arrests. Then we shift from politics to people: mental health. The alleged shooter’s behavior reads less like a manifesto and more like untreated distress. We talk access, insurance, and why investing in care would do more to prevent violence than any new speech code. Along the way, we confront AI fakes, chopped clips, and the way algorithms reward outrage while starving nuance.

What do we suggest instead? Curate a wider media diet. Debate in good faith. Choose “change the channel” over “call their boss” when you can. And when you can’t agree, say so and move on. The goal isn’t to sanitize speech; it’s to rebuild the muscle for respectful dissent. We close with something simple and urgent: check on your people. If someone seems off, reach out. Kind questions beat hot takes every time.

If this conversation hits home, share it with a friend, subscribe for more thoughtful shows, and leave a review with your take: should employers police personal posts? We want to hear you.

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Welcome to the After Two Beers Podcast. I'm Dutch Dalton. Joined as always by Kimmy Gibler.

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That's me.

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Kimmy Ross. It's your uh birthday week.

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It is my birthday.

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Happy birthday, 43. Congratulations.

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39 and holding.

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Yeah. I tried to make it at least more realistic.

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Ouch.

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Yeah. Jeremy Scretti sitting in tonight in the big chair. Mr. Summers is taking a hiatus for the show. Yeah, hi. Big germ is here. Big germ. Big germ. We uh we opened our webpage back up, after2beers.com. That's the number two. So if you want to go back and look at some old shows we've done, some of the guests we've had on our show, and uh some of the history topics we've covered, you can take a look at that. We've got trivia coming up here locally on uh September 27th. We will be at the VFW here in Richmond. Uh would love for you to stop out to that. And finally, our thank yous, Kevin Shook here at Global Media Enterprises. Thank you, Kevin. Does a great job producing these kinds of things. Uh, if you like the show, we also would like you to maybe help us out with it a little bit. And that leads us into our next thank you. That's our Patreon sponsors. Uh, you can go to patreon.com backslash after two beers. There is a link and uh on our webpage as well. And uh for as little as three dollars a month, you can support us. We would greatly appreciate it. Yeah, it's less than a paper. I used to like that song, and now the moment I hear it, I'm changing the channel. And I love dogs.

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I love dogs, and I think it just makes me sad when I hear the song because I think of all of those little sad dogs.

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Yeah, sometimes I tell Amanda, like, I'll make my dogs watch it so they know how good they have it.

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Hey, back to the Patreon thing, though, man. Three dollars is cheap.

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Well, look at you throwing out free ads.

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Wow.

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I I I didn't intend to, but it's National Burger Day.

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Don't throw out a Hardy's ad. No. It was on fire like before you guys got here. I was listening to it. Which one? Um Truckstop. Uh Truckstop Hardy's.

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Also, we want to make sure we thank the bottle shop. Tonight they have provided us with this bottle of tequila that was um it's the brainchild of a Richmond, Indiana resident. Jeremy, fill us in on this uh this liquor here.

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Uh so as you can see, I can't remember what the name. Maxweller Maxwell Park tequila. 100% agave. Um bottle shop, Crosstown have it for$54.99.

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Um gluten-free. And a little bit of background on this. Uh I guess the guy that um made this is uh a 1993-95 uh Richmond graduate. Really? We were in school then. Yeah, yeah, we were.

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All right, let me try it. Give it the old taste test here.

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Oh I wasn't on there?

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No, but it should be.

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No.

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All right. Well, I'll take one. If this is your uh first time tuning into the podcast, uh, we greatly appreciate you tuning in this evening. Uh the concept of after two beers is simply this. Uh we consume at least two alcoholic drinks. I know that's probably not mad friendly, but um we do it with the idea that it takes the muffler off our uh conversation. Uh we're Gen Xers, uh, we don't put up with a lot of shit typically. We're pretty open-minded, pretty opinionated, and we're free uh pretty free to share them.

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Kim's on one tonight. I'm trying to have a we're gonna have a serious conversation tonight, and it's gonna be interesting because Kim is on one.

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Why are you gonna blame me? I'm not blaming you.

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Okay.

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All right. I uh I it's dominated the headlines. Um, you know, we typically talk about funny news stuff on here, and uh, I have some of that backed up if we need some levity at the end to kind of bring it all back together. But uh, I wanted to first talk about um it's been dominating the headlines here locally and around the world, I think. Uh it is the assassination of the uh political pundit Charlie Kirk. Um and when it happened last week, Americans did what uh we love to do in 2025, and that uh we flocked to social media and expressed our First Amendment right of the uh Bill of Rights, and that is our right to free speech.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Now, in my personal timeline, I'd love to hear from both of you. Most of what I saw on timelines were people that were expressing fondness for Charlie Kirk. I'm here in Indiana. A lot of my friends are uh Indiana-based, Midwest based, and uh it's a pretty red area, just to kind of give a uh a sampling of that. And uh, but most people wish kind words to Charlie's family and uh into the children's horrible situation, you know. To lose a father at 31, that's horrible. But uh I did see other posts that said Charlie Kirk could be an asshole, more or less. And I'm not gonna lie, those were probably accurate too. But I will say, in my personal timeline, I didn't see one post about anyone that I would consider offensive or celebrating uh the man's demise so far. Uh now, that wasn't the case everywhere. That was not the case everywhere. There were uh certainly some posted, some by pilots, uh medical professionals, teachers, even a secret service employee. And that's when our vice president of the United States, J.D. Vance, went on the Charlie Kirk show and said, call them out. And hell, call their employer. The VP has asked us now to snitch on people on social media. Right? I think we can all agree that you shouldn't celebrate the death of a human being. But doesn't it seem a little childish to ask people to tattle on others? But ultimately, that leads me into my first question tonight. I'd love to get feedback from people in the office there, uh, people that are watching. Should, and this is like we're had a few drinks, we're hanging out, I'm gonna ask you both. Should a person be fired for something they've said on social media?

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It almost depends on their position. Well, social media it's after work, but it is depending on if you take your employer off of your page, I think it's fine. Do whatever you want to do.

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I think you should I think you shouldn't be fired. I don't think you should be fired.

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You don't think you should be fired. No. And you're a no.

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I think that if you uh if you feel very strongly, um I I I don't think you should be fired, but that's not the that's not the world we live in. So I feel like you if if you want to have it.

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Have some cooth about you. You know what that means? Yeah. Have some cooth. Not really because honestly, I mean, quit going out there and and being a dumbass. You know what I mean? Like, have some cooth, have some respect. That's it. Right? You know, the the man died, okay. No matter if you like him or you don't like it. I've seen it all week. You know, some of my friends they they say some stuff I didn't agree with. I don't get into that. You know, that's their opinion. Okay. But at the end of the day, he died. And I listened to him. I I wasn't like an avid Charlie Kirk guy. I seen him on TikTok. I listened to someone. A lot of stuff he said made some sense, but a lot of stuff didn't. So it's it's whatever. The guy was out there trying to do what he did. You know, I thought he was he had a movement going, and I think that, you know, they went they didn't like it. You know, the some of the people didn't like what he had to say, and and obviously, if you if you watch the news, they got the text messages from the kid that shot him. I think he's 22 years old, um, just said I hated the guy. And that was it. Told his girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever it was, and they got all the text messages, they read them, whether or not they're true or not, we don't know. No, and we I mean, come on. The guy shot this guy, didn't like him, obviously. And I what's funny is the week before that I seen the interaction between him two. I watched it on TikTok before he died, yeah. Before he died, that guy was on there on the show with him. Oh, really? With a bull with a uh um one of those megaphones jumped in front of everybody and Charlie didn't like it. He's like, Well, obviously you want to talk first, and they show it on you know on the show and they get into it, and it's just back and forth, back and forth. I don't know how it ended. But then the next week the guy killed him. Didn't like him.

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You know, so the thing that I don't like is that um people have a lot to say and they've never listened to a whole thing of it.

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Yeah.

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Does that make sense? Like I think that some people are putting I I'm not gonna say that he does not have his own opinion, and he does, and he makes it completely known. Yeah, this is what I stand for, whatever. But then there's other things that uh I feel like some people are making it their own platform to talk about, which he's never even talked about. I mean, like he was never saying anything negative about it.

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Now, um, so you both don't think there's anything that you can say on social media that should get you fired.

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Oh, I'm sure that there is.

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So okay, because that's I mean, if you if you said I want the guy to die or you you die, or you know, something stupid, yes.

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Yeah, and we'll we'll talk about hate speech here in a minute. We'll get kind of dive into that. So I I think uh there's cause and effect in everything you do in life and everything you say, right? It's um the first amendment, we can dive into that. Uh Thomas Jefferson wrote it, it was very important. Uh obviously, it was the first one. It's the big dog, right? It probably felt like it was getting overshadowed by the second amendment. That's all you ever hear about anymore. So the first amendment became a big deal. And um, you go home and you say something you shouldn't, it doesn't mean that you can go to jail, but you may catch some shit for it.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just like anything else, there may be a lot of an apology.

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Cause and effect. I think as you get older, you say shit all the time. I think it gets worse as you get older.

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But I think as you get older, you're like, oh, I hope nobody fucking back down. Jesus. I don't want to heard that.

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So uh as of uh when I was pulling the data together, over 900 people so far that I had read have been let go based upon what they've written on social media regarding Charlie Kirk. And uh this was well before the Jimmy Fallon thing. We'll talk or Jimmy Kimmel. Fallon is next. President Trump has already called him out. So he called out Colbert, he's gone. He called out Kimmel, he's gone. We're gonna talk about that in a second. But what's beautiful about this country is uh you can say whatever the hell you want. But your employer in uh 49 states in this country can fire you for whatever they want. Only Montana requires just cause. Like you can go in and be like, I just don't like the way she smells. And that's good enough reason to be fired. I don't like what they posted, and you can go. But I looked this up. We're pretty unique this way. This is kind of what makes the Bill of Rights so kick ass in this country. This year in England alone, 12,000 people have been arrested for things they have posted online. Wow.

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Arrested, not just fired.

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No, arrested by the government. Yes, arrested. You may have to do community service, you may have to pay a fine. You could even go to jail for the things that you put on social media. Isn't that crazy? There's hell, that's terrible. Dalton, you're going to jail. I'm not going to. I haven't said anything negative yet about nothing. I'm starting to stay clean of this shit. Now, currently in the United States, there are only two places where your freedom of speech isn't protected. Broadcast television and broadcast radio. The FCC will find the shit out of you if you do something bad. Oh, yeah. We know this.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. We have we've all seen in this room, probably at least once or twice, Janet Jackson's nipple, thanks to Justin Timberlake. Hee hee. That cost him a lot of money. Thank you, Justin.

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Yes, it did.

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Uh Bob and Tom had to pay a lot.

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Yes.

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He says something you shouldn't say every now and then. How it's turn, maybe? He did. All the time. Now here's the wild part about the FCC. The FCC is uh it's not elected, it is a uh a job that is given by the United States president. So basically, the president and the uh whoever runs the FCC determines what they consider to be offensive. Yeah. Exactly. Follow me so far?

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I'm following you.

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All right. Now there was a uh a person who really brought this to light. It was a comedian named George Carlin, and he created the uh the seven words that the FCC called indecent for public airwaves. These are the only seven you're not supposed to say. You want to guess on them? Shit. Shit is okay. Nope, shit's number one. Yeah. Shit.

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I think that there's gonna be the C bomb.

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Yeah, the C bomb is number four. Ass is okay. Could be a donkey.

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Yeah. Hell's fine too.

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Hell's fine. Hell is fine. Fuck is one.

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Fuck is one, yeah. Uh pussy?

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No.

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Could be a cat.

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Think about it.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's new?

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Titty. Tits. Tits. Tits is one of them. Isn't this fun? You know, I went to Ball State University and I had to take an FCC class. I majored in broadcasting. And uh this was some of the shit we covered. The seven dirty words that George Carlin wrote about. You can't say shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, or tits.

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Okay.

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Those are the those are the seven that'll get you in the goo. They'll get you. They'll get you every time. Really, what I, you know, I'm we're kind of this is kind of boring as shit, the way we're putting this out here. I'm just trying to get to a point that um the first amendment is a big damn deal. It's arguably my favorite amendment. It's uh it's it's the first one in the Bill of Rights. Thomas Jefferson wrote it, and the whole point of it is um, aside from hate speech, which is threatening violence, harassment, or inciting violence, you're good to go. You can say whatever you want in this country and you can get away with it. You don't go to jail, we don't get arrested like you do in England.

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12,000 fired.

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Well, you could get fired, but that that is what it is, right? Yeah, but do you agree that um Jimmy Kimmel's comments were offensive enough that he should have been pulled off air?

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I cannot tell you exactly what he said, so I don't know.

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I listened to it like I was telling you before. I listened to it and I was like shouldn't have said that. Right. But I don't know about irony or pulling him off the air. He could have he could have backtracked, you know, because it's everybody's right to have an opinion. Right. But the only thing when I when I listen to it, I mean he's an arrogant ass. Like he he says stupid shit all the time. And he's not a Republican, and he he has the right to say whatever he wants, but like it's like he's poking. And it's like everything that happens in this country is trying to separate us. You know, with race, they're trying to separate us. Um this political, whatever happened, trying to separate us. It's like I mean it's an act of civil war. I mean, that's so you really think that I I think there's a lot of fucked up shit to it. But there's conspiracy theories out there that think this is what's gonna put us in the civil war.

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No, I see, and I'm gonna tell you right now, this is just one crazy kid. Yeah, I agree with you. And I and I hate to be rude by uh the one thing that we have not figured out in this country is mental health. Yes, that's what I was gonna say.

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This has nothing to do with race, it has nothing to do with politics, it has to do with mental health.

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This is a mental health situation, just like anything else. Um, whether it's somebody that attacks politicians in Minnesota, whether it's some kid that is sitting on top of a uh a building in in Pennsylvania. It's just these are people that have issues. And honestly, even if you're of means like this kid was, it's still difficult to even find a psychiatrist in in the country. And then more importantly, good luck finding them that is available on your insurance or your network, yeah.

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Did you hear that he was more worried about the it was his grandfather's gun that what his grandfather thought if he didn't lost his gun than killing Charter Kirk? He was more worried about getting the gun back. That right there should say something. That shows and I was like, and he also inscribed on the bullets, he he made these bullets and inscribed something on them.

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Um well the guy that shot the uh insurance uh CEO did the same thing. Yeah, and that's you know, it is what it is, it's not good.

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But if you've ever fought insurance, you kind of understand a little bit, but not that far.

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I wasn't a big fan of Charlie, but I didn't watch a whole lot of his stuff. But I will say, since he's passing, I have gone back and I watched him sit down with Bill Maher, and um it was really good.

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Yeah, you know, I I didn't agree with his politics, but even if he didn't agree with you, he was still a like he didn't he could be an ass.

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I thought he was of sound mind though. Like he he had good points. Like it wasn't like Charlie wasn't so far crazy, you know.

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It wasn't Charlie was a smart guy, very smart guy. And um, you know, fuck, he's 16 younger years than I am, so he clearly accomplished a ton. And uh he definitely had impact on who won the election. But at the same time, in this country, uh, we do have the separation of church and state, and he was very religious. And there's nothing wrong, I'm not saying that as a negative, but he's a religious guy, and so a lot of his opinions and ideal lifestyles were based upon religion. And so there's a lot of people that are out there that are crazy, and I I don't know if crazy sounds like a shitty word, but hell I'm Gen X. They're crazy, and there's a lot of guns out there, and they're honestly they look at it like the best way for me to end this hate, I can't counter them. I'm gonna just eliminate the problem. And it's scary, but that's where we're at in today's world. Yeah, it was making an impact. Well, yeah, oh, for sure. Absolutely, for sure. And uh, I do I do feel bad for him. I feel bad for his his family. I mean, that's uh I can't imagine watching that as a child.

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Did you see uh Justin Jefferson?

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Uh yeah, a lot of that was fake, by the way. It was fake? That was a lot of that was AI. Didn't know that. Yeah.

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Can't believe everything you see on the other side.

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That's what wild about all of this. So, like, there's been a bunch of athletes that stepped up and said they were gonna help pay for his expenses. Nah, it's all bullshit. It's all bullshit. It was honestly the guy the guy was a millionaire. The last thing that he needs, it's most of the people in this room that I'd more worry about their expenses. Yeah. You know what I mean? Jimmy Kimmel thinking.

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You know what?

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Honestly, the wild part about Jimmy Kimmel is if you go back and you watch after it happened, he he showed remorse and felt bad for Charlie. He wasn't bad mouthing Charlie on that uh what got him fired. He basically said the same thing that you two said before we went on air. That people are making this into a political issue.

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They are making it into a political issue, and you're only getting an excerpt of all of the things said on all of the sides.

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That's the I it's so funny to me that politics has become so dominant in in everything that we do now.

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So I seen this the other day. I guess the NBA or maybe it's the NFL, they're doing uh Charlie Kirk um memorial ads or whatever on their on their thing, and people are in outraged about it. Like some people are on Facebook and social media and saying, well, such and such didn't get it. It was they were making it about race and they were making it about color, and they were making like, well, we didn't get that. Why does Charlie Kirk get that? You know, and I'm like, when's it ever gonna end? It doesn't. It's just it just keeps going, you know. And oh, Colin Kaepernick. People like to freaking argue, man. And I'm just like, how are you comparing Charlie Kirk to Colin Kaepernick?

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Man, people will find a way to argue about anything.

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Well, here's the good part for us anything The FCC only controls public broadcast television and radio. And uh you can say whatever the hell you want on a podcast. Now you may get fired, and I could come on here and say something about Amanda that she may not like and it may end a relationship. You say shit, there are consequences to what you say. That's the reality of where we're at today, right? I just can't imagine being that much of an asshole to sit at home and go, oh, oh, oh, what did they just say? What where do they work? I am calling their boss and I am getting them unemployed.

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Or shooting them. I don't exactly.

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The irony of it is that that man was shot using his First Amendment right. And now people are talking about that using their First Amendment and are getting fired for it. And the whole thing about Charlie Kirk, and I'll go, I'll give him credit for this 100%. He sat there, not behind a glass wall, and said, Come at me, prove me wrong, was what the banner was that day, right? He at least engaged. He would hate this. This is the exact opposite of what he was trying to do. He was trying to increase conversation.

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And knowledge and different things, and just hey.

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Yes, that's the beauty of living in a democracy where you're allowed to talk out loud. You can express your points, and and I grew up, and I said this to a guy that helped me start in all of this, but we have lost the ability in this country to say agree to disagree. Agreed. And I think a lot of it is because people get behind their phone and it's not a conversation that you're having direct with someone eye to eye. Yeah, they can just spout off and oh, that's what it is. And people should know, and this is why you get fired.

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I've watched a lot of his episodes since then, you know. Like I have yet found one that is like okay, makes sense. Like Well, because that's it's it's have you watched any? I mean, I watched the time. I haven't found any of them. Like he he respected the person. He said, you know, unless he got crazy. But like he would be like, nope, you know, and then they would just argue.

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I'll say this, regardless of what he thought, he didn't deserve what happened. No, absolutely not. And that's what I'm trying to get to. But at the same time, that um the fact that Jimmy Kimmel now basically has to pay to get back on television is just wild to me.

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You think he'll be back? You guys think it'll be back? I don't know why it would.

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I'll tell you why would you? Because that's the beauty of a podcast. This is the beauty of Kevin Shook. Kevin is on the the edge of what is gonna happen next, which is a guy like Jimmy Kimmel, look how much money Joe Rogan makes. Yeah. You don't have to have a uh you don't have to be on ABS or ABC, CBS, NBC, or Fox to make money anymore, to keep your conversation out there. You just need the internet. Yes. Yeah, yeah. The most dangerous man in the world to all of that right now is Elon Musk. And that's because Elon is working on trying to get these satellites that will allow you to have Wi-Fi anywhere in the world. He's helping Ukraine win the war by giving them internet, right? You give somebody in the sticks the ability to have internet, you don't need PBS. But some of those people need it now because they live in an area where they don't have money, and you know how it is in Richmond. If you had to live off an antenna, you couldn't catch shit. The stations in Dayton and Indy and Cincinnati aren't strong enough. So you've got to have Wi-Fi.

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How are your kids gonna learn any language about Sesame Street? That was well, and that's the whole thing. It's gone.

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That's just gone, Kimmy.

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Fuck that big bird. Yeah. Damn it. Shit was costing money. PBS is gone. You can't afford it. But isn't that sad? Yeah, I I don't agree with that. And I'm a Trump supporter.

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That's that's the whole thing.

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This isn't political.

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We're not we're not doing political. I'm talking about the First Amendment. This is a right that we is that him cutting us off? No, that's you off the top ropes. Here he comes. Here he comes. No, I I you know what? I absolutely love this country. And this and the weirdest part for me has always been is that both sides are doing what in their minds are right for this country. We're just fighting over how much we love this country and how much we want to work together, and we don't want to work together. We haven't a vision of what we want it to be, and if the other side doesn't agree with that vision, then we don't want to work with them. And now we're getting violent about it. And we've been violent in the past. It's not good, it's not good. We need to come together and have conversation. Are you guys ready to move on to something? Yes!

SPEAKER_04:

Yes!

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man, this is important shit. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_04:

Right now.

SPEAKER_01:

This is important shit.

SPEAKER_04:

Over shoes.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, I'm gonna ask you two a question real quick. If you had to guess what the world record is for the number of births that a woman has had in her life, how many kids this lady has uh pro uh has made in her life? How many would you guess? What's 42. 42. Whoa. 42. That's a lot of kids.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, we just had this trivia on our on our so we do trivia every day at work on our fridge.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

And I feel like we just had this recently.

SPEAKER_01:

34. 34 and 42.

SPEAKER_04:

38, though.

SPEAKER_01:

The ironic part is the number is 69. That's a lot of kids, right?

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, can somebody explain to me what the whole 67 shit is that these kids are doing nowadays?

SPEAKER_01:

All right. Let me can I finish the 69?

SPEAKER_04:

You finish your thing. You finish your thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Somebody threw a squirrel out here.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh this Russian woman, her first name is Valentina, is widely believed to be uh the holder of the world record for the most children born to one woman. She had 69 offspring. Now, she allegedly gave birth to 16 pairs of twins, seven sets of triplets, and four sets of quadruplets. Same dad? Um, yeah. I don't know. Child support, dude. That's a kid. No, dude, 69? 69 kids? Shit. Uh the claim is not uh universally accepted due to the lack of uh records at the time. It happened in the early 1700s. Uh, but it became a prominent part of folklore and pop uh popular culture. 69 kids. I wonder how many dads there were.

SPEAKER_04:

Just one. It was the 1700s.

SPEAKER_02:

No, no, I'm pretty sure. She probably had sailors and Vikings and Oh God. Why do you gotta make her out to be a prison Hindu? Oh my god, man.

SPEAKER_03:

60 million.

SPEAKER_02:

You better get some child support for them, them kids.

SPEAKER_04:

They were just falling out towards the end.

SPEAKER_01:

They were out singing a song.

SPEAKER_04:

There's another set.

SPEAKER_01:

All right. You know, I uh we were talking about free speech. Uh we were talking uh about free speech earlier. Uh this one comes to us from Florida. This actually happened three years ago, actually maybe five years ago now. Uh, but this is the this brings it all together. There was a man named Dylan Shane Webb. He was in Lake City, Florida, and he was arrested after he was confronted by a sheriff's deputy about a sticker on the back of his car. I remember this.

SPEAKER_02:

Do you? Yeah. You remember what the sticker said? It was uh wasn't it Mill for Okay. The sticker said, I eat ass. Yes. It was I eat ass. I eat ass. He got pulled over for it, made it want him to remove it, didn't he? Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

So the uh the cop uh pulled him over, said it was a uh maybe he his choice of burger is donkey. It wasn't Delko, was it? Delko. Dale used to work at Building.

SPEAKER_02:

He used to say that all the time.

SPEAKER_01:

I eat ass. Golly, man. No. What are we doing on this show right now? Uh he was charged with a misdemeanor count, uh, including violating four. You know, it's so funny, I can't even fucking do this now. Like, that's what happens when I leave it. You knew him.

SPEAKER_02:

You know that. You guys are well over the string. Yeah. Yeah. Keep going. I want to hear this because this this was uh I remember this was on national news. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

It was a vi so anyway, the guy got arrested for it. Uh the cop wanted him to go up and remove one of the uh the letters off the sticker so that um I ate ass? No, it wasn't past tense. He didn't want to change the verb. Oh, Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm eating ass. I'll buy a vowel. It's current. Not a vow.

SPEAKER_04:

He he marked off the eye to just say eat ass.

SPEAKER_00:

This is why uh is this where we play have you ever?

SPEAKER_04:

No.

SPEAKER_00:

No.

SPEAKER_04:

That's gross. Come on, let's go. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, anyway. Um, yeah, I'm done with it. I'm done with it. This didn't work out well at all.

SPEAKER_04:

Like, how did he get the sticker off?

SPEAKER_01:

He didn't remove the sticker. He got arrested. He did, he got arrested. He wouldn't do it. I remember that. Yeah, they uh they took him to jail.

SPEAKER_04:

He said I feel convicted in this.

SPEAKER_01:

He was. Technically, he said even then, he's like, You're violating my First Amendment rights. Yeah. And it went up to the Supreme Court in uh, I believe in Florida at least, and uh they were right. He won. You're allowed to say it. He won, right? Yeah, it happens all the time. I actually noted some cases uh that will be coming up in Texas versus Johnson, 1989. No, this is a big deal.

SPEAKER_04:

Sorry, you said Johnson.

SPEAKER_01:

Johnson, Jesus. Uh burning the American flag is a form of symbolic speech and is protected.

SPEAKER_02:

You can you can burn the flag, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But the president now wants to make it a crime. I know, I've seen that. Yeah, that's going to go back to the court. Yeah. Nothing.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I mean, like I always learn, like, you don't even let a flag get like shambled or touch the ground.

SPEAKER_02:

But that's there's that's kind of gone away because people I don't know, man, they just don't care. They just don't care, man. Like what do you want to talk about? Like right now? I'm kind of intrigued about eating ass, but no, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, dude.

SPEAKER_04:

Um I eat squirrel.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm joking, I really don't eat squirrel, but I'm making it a little bit.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I get you. I gotcha.

SPEAKER_04:

Like it's donkey. Never mind. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, there you go. Disney porn.

SPEAKER_04:

No.

SPEAKER_02:

That's pretty funny, though, when Dalton brought it up.

SPEAKER_04:

It wasn't.

SPEAKER_02:

It was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_04:

All right, what else do you got for us? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

I that I was hoping this would go better. This is oh no, no. I uh you know, it's it's funny. It's uh it's one of those things that um probably made better sense in my mind. That um and then I think you two are probably uh into the battle a little more than normal. Into the bag is almost what I said, but you know what I mean. What's that mean? You're you're uh you're feeling no pain as much.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm good. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

No, no, no. All right.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

French and Indian. You know what? French and Indian War would be a good topic. Let's talk about that.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you actually, you know, it was called the Seven Year War? No? Yeah. Let me hear some history. No, I'm not going there. Why? It's boring as shit, even for me. Oh, are you worried at all about the First Amendment or do you just don't give a fuck? You don't even really think about it, do you?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I mean, most people in this world they they know they have the First Amendment rights, right? Yeah, but do you know what that actually gives you? Freedom of speech. Which means what?

SPEAKER_01:

Means I can say whatever the fuck I want. Right. But right now doesn't it feel like you can't? No.

SPEAKER_02:

Not at all. Isn't that scary? I mean, are you talking about because Charlie got shot and you don't want to be freedom of speech, or are you talking about I'm talking about you.

SPEAKER_01:

You said that uh you don't feel like you can say whatever you want.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't. Um, I own a business and sometimes you have to, like I said, cooth, right? Um you can't really go out there and say bad stuff and still expect people to do business with you, you know, and it's not that I want to go out there and say bad stuff anyway.

SPEAKER_04:

I was gonna say it's not uh that you can't, but I mean fucking shouldn't.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, if I'm gonna say a cuss word or if I'm gonna, you know, I shouldn't have to worry about about saying cuss words, right? That's just who I am. If I say a cuss word, it shouldn't matter. You know, it doesn't make me I'm a bad person, doesn't mean hey, don't do business with that guy because he said a cuss word.

SPEAKER_04:

But on the other hand, you know who you can say cuss words around with.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. And if you smoke, it shouldn't matter if you smoke. Shouldn't matter. I don't know. I mean, there's all kinds of you drink, you know, it doesn't it doesn't matter. There's there's I think we get caught up too much in what people think about you.

SPEAKER_04:

Sometimes it's all about having respect of who you're encountering to. But there's people that you know that you shouldn't cuss in front of. There's people you know you probably shouldn't smoke in front of. Like my dad's people you shouldn't drink in front of.

SPEAKER_02:

To this day, if I say cuss words for my dad, he's like, you stop cussing. Yeah. To this day. You know, and you're just like, you know what? You're probably right.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. I would never cuss in front of my 93-year-old grandmother.

SPEAKER_02:

Like I'm just saying for all of it, right? So I don't know. I mean, I think it's important. Yeah. I think if you would have done the Second Amendment, we could have done a whole book on it. Yeah, but I don't even want to go there, man. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh like it's it's to me, it's um But it has good place because of what's happening in the world. Well, the Second Amendment is what it is, right? But the first amendment, I think what alarms me about all of this is that um there's a lot of people. This happened to Roseanne. Maybe you've had a few too many one night. Maybe you're in a bad spot.

SPEAKER_04:

I would never do it.

unknown:

I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_04:

But maybe I was talking about never have a few too many.

SPEAKER_01:

But I mean, you go out and you type one thing, and your shit can be fucked. Yeah. Immediately. Yeah. These people lost their job. And that's that's I'm not saying it's wrong that they did, but I think people need to understand that when you publish something on social media, it is live forever. You may think you can go back and delete it. You know how many times I've heard in a press release from the now deleted text or you know, Twitter post. Yeah. And somebody's fired. And it's someone's always apologizing to you.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, that's, you know, and that I just and a lot of them are false apologies.

SPEAKER_01:

There's just so many people that are just anymore, just butthurt over every fucking thing. People get hurt over it, just it's just silly to me. What happened to changing the channel? Or just turning the TV off? People are soft now. That's yeah, but see, it goes both ways. Yeah. Now it's, you know, cancel culture. All I ever heard because the people didn't want to buy somebody's pillow was cancel culture. People want to make money off of you.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, and and they'll see you. You know, oh, you you did me wrong, I'll see you. Oh, coffee got spent on my hand. You know, oh, I'm I got third-degree burns.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but man, that stuff is so rare. Honestly, when you're talking about stories like that, and I think that's what kills us now, is there's so many people in this world, and people are gonna do bad shit. We didn't get to the top of the food spectrum by being nice. Yeah, we're fucking evil people by trade. If you look at what the Japanese did in World War II, and that was just one generation ago, they threw babies against the walls in China. I mean, like evil shit. We are evil people. I can't believe we're talking about this on after two beers. But what I I guess what I'm referring to now is now we're turning on each other. Oh, yeah, and we're turning each other in for saying shit we don't like, and it just seems childish to me. Petty. It uh it is. It is we're sucking ourselves down, man. We should be trying to figure out how to bring each other together. But anyway. Ponder's active. Yeah. Ponder thank God for Ponder. I thought, you know, we would I guess we're not gonna be controversial because we're all pretty much down the middle on all this.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I mean you could say things, but you don't want to be controversial.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm not gonna be controversial.

SPEAKER_02:

There you go.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, can I ask, is controversial being real?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Are we afraid to be real anymore? Are you afraid to really express how you feel about something?

SPEAKER_04:

No, but I also prefer to. I I don't I can have my own opinion, but I can also keep it to myself. Well, we learned I cannot offend people. I cannot offend people, and I can still love people even if they have other opinions.

SPEAKER_02:

I can offend them and still love them.

SPEAKER_04:

And that's the difference, is that like I can still love people that have completely different thoughts of me. And when I they want to talk about it, I'll be like, no, we don't talk about that. So that's just me.

SPEAKER_02:

We've had many conversations though.

SPEAKER_01:

About we don't we don't fight about it. Well, it's because we're uh that's what I've been trying to explain. I mentioned on social media that um a lot of these conversations used to be had with people that you would have face to face, and I would look at you and you said you're a Trump supporter. I'm not um anti-Trump. I'm anti certain things that he does. But I wasn't a supporter of Harris, so I don't know where I'm at. I've lost. Like I I mentioned on the show he said.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, but you've had very good points. That's what I've said. Like, we can take me and you can have a conversation without getting angry. People a lot of people can't do that. Well, it's because it's built out of respect. Yeah. But I mean, you have certain things that I like, you have certain things that I like, and if you could find the middle ground.

SPEAKER_04:

And that's what it should be.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, if you can find the middle ground, then that's uh that's good.

SPEAKER_01:

But it's all about having the ability to say, hey, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree and end it. Yeah, yep. And end it. But the thing is now you could go on internet and on social media and say the most hateful shit. And you're gonna get a thousand people that will agree with you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

But if you don't agree, unfriend me now. How many times do I see that shit this week? Oh man, I can't. How do you guys seen that shit? I posted.

SPEAKER_04:

Do you know that I haven't even thanked all the people that wish me a happy birthday? Because I'm just like, I don't even want to be on internet.

SPEAKER_02:

Anybody that sees this and you and my friends, I can't keep up with birthdays anymore. On social media.

SPEAKER_01:

Kim wished happy birthday to a guy who died a few years ago.

SPEAKER_02:

Like, hey, you probably had a button that decided to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_04:

I used to look at the button, but I didn't even realize that he passed.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you must have been. You could just do that. Why do we have to feel like you have to wish everybody a happy birthday? Because I we have 2,000 followers. I'm not bragging about that. I'm just saying we have for our business, and I'm like, all right, I gotta keep up, you know. I gotta I couldn't do it no more. I can't even keep up with my own birthday. You know, people wish me happy birthday, and I'm like, No, that's what I'm saying. I'm like, every single time that someone tells me.

SPEAKER_04:

Thank you, everybody. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I love it. But no, it's Daisy. It's Gradio Walter Fringy. Hey, everybody, happy birthday for this year. There you go. There you go.

SPEAKER_04:

Happy birthday, everybody, and thank you for the happy birthday wishes.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. All right. Well, next uh in two weeks, we'll be back to our normal show where we just make fun of people throughout the world.

SPEAKER_04:

That would be great.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I just this uh I just I know, you know me. I don't like being controversial because I'm a it's not a matter of being controversial, it's a matter of you've gotta stand up for what you believe and you've gotta have a moral compass, and there's gotta be something that's more important to you than you know what's happening. And I'm not saying you specifically, but you know, if we're wasting our time by ignoring I it's so funny. I it's ironic to me when people say they ignore the news. Like they it's a positive. I'm like, why would you do that? If you don't trust the sources, that's one thing. Find another source. Yeah. But the last thing you want to do is put your head in the sand and just expect everything to work out great because that's the way that you get you're a fucking sheep.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't expect any of it to turn out great. Well, then that's why you should be paying attention. Why I don't watch the news.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, that's even scarier. I don't know. Ignorance is not always blessed.

SPEAKER_04:

But I don't want anything that's gonna daily bring me down because I'm like, ah, it's another shitty situation in our world.

SPEAKER_02:

About politics, religion, anything, even outside of this. I don't even know where she stands on any of it. Oh, I can tell you.

SPEAKER_01:

No, honestly, that's how the that's the way it used to be. The uh politics in itself, um what I'm really getting back to is this. I I don't really care what Donald Trump says, I don't care what Joe Biden gurgled um when he gurgled. My point being is this I just want us to have the ability in this country to continue to communicate. Yeah. And we need to come together, find people that will at least have a respectful conversation with you.

SPEAKER_04:

Respectful is where it's at.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and you're not gonna do that on social media. But the point is, is there's a lot of people that don't want to go out and intermingle anymore. They want to go home, they want to go to bed, they'd rather just live their life on the couch. I like it there. Well, that's I'm telling you, we are as as human beings, we are social animals.

SPEAKER_04:

I know.

SPEAKER_01:

And if I don't anyway, it's uh I'm we're and now I'm rambling. No, I get it.

SPEAKER_02:

Couch, people want to go home and get on the couch.

SPEAKER_01:

Right, but what what happens is is people pick up this phone and it allows you to have the ability to speak to the world. You can say behind it. Not even hide behind. You say shit you wouldn't say in public.

SPEAKER_02:

That's what I'm saying. You're not doing it. You wouldn't stand up in church. Yeah, you wouldn't say that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's the whole point. Yeah, and may that's that's what's scary. And now people that are saying it out loud are gonna start getting punished. It and it's only the matter of who's in, you know, like you could post something next week, and if somebody on the other side suddenly starts reporting you, people are gonna start losing their jobs because people are petty.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, that's scary as hell for just having an opinion.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, the guy got shot for it.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

That's our anyway, that scares the piss out of me. Yeah. And now you gotta pay to be on television, but nobody watches television. That's the beauty of a Kevin Shook.

SPEAKER_04:

Thank you, Kevin.

SPEAKER_01:

And what I mean by that is podcasts, there's a reason Joe Rogan helped win an election, and Charlie Kirk was so famous because Charlie Kirk wasn't elected to anything, he wasn't the CEO of a major corporation. He was a guy that walked out with an opinion and tried to have conversations. That's how he became famous.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

You can do it.

SPEAKER_02:

He was everywhere. You know, I was just talking the other day. Guy busted his ass. And they they he was at Purdue. I know people went and watched him at Purdue and he traveled the country and he welcomed the bait. You know, uh he like Dalton said, engaged people.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. You gotta engage and you gotta listen. Yeah, and you can't just be trying to figure out why they're wrong and why you're right. And the other thing that you have to realize with the freedoms that we have, whether it's the Second Amendment with guns or whether it's the First Amendment with uh the ability to convey your opinions on things, there's gonna be times where you don't like what people say. Yep. But you have to allow them the ability to say it because that's what makes us fucking awesome. That's what makes this country great. It's the greatest country in the world.

SPEAKER_02:

Even the times that he argued with somebody and it he thought it was a good conversation, he would say, I appreciate you. Yeah. Well, you know, he would say, I appreciate your opinion, and I value your opinion. Thank you. Even when they would have a hard argument, he would always say that. I think Josh is leaving.

SPEAKER_01:

Bores me. Where's the funneless to it? Right?

SPEAKER_02:

Josh don't leave, we have alcohol.

SPEAKER_01:

He's gotta work in the morning. He's gotta work in the morning. He's one of those guys who's like, I'm gonna go home and not watch the news.

SPEAKER_04:

He'd rather watch like Rick and Morty thanks. Do you watch the news? Every fucking day.

SPEAKER_02:

Do you watch the news?

SPEAKER_04:

Not a bit.

SPEAKER_02:

What news channel do you watch? I watch uh I watch three. I can guess. Yeah? HLN. Nope. America's News. Never even heard of it. The obvious CNN. I do watch CNN.

SPEAKER_01:

Fox? I do. You got another one you watch? Yeah. News Nation. News Nation. Watch all three of them. That's right.

SPEAKER_04:

And just see what all of them say.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, they all have they have different opinions on it. Exactly. But I also read a little bit of both. But I also read the BBC and I also read um and I listen to podcasts.

SPEAKER_04:

What do the British have to say about us?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, the British are the ones that are the most legit because they have no reason to bullshit the information they're giving you.

SPEAKER_04:

Exactly. I love the British.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, they're basically saying the same thing. Jimmy Kimmel got fired for saying something mean about somebody that the president liked. I mean, that's be I mean, I'm just being straight up.

SPEAKER_02:

The guy that fired him, though, was the big dog for like ABC, and he's the one that Because the FCC reached out to them and said he should be suspended.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh. And the FCC is appointed by the president.

SPEAKER_02:

The only part that I seen was the guy that owns all these. I guess he's a billionaire. I don't know. Well, yeah, that's they all are but he said he said no, you you're done, or something. He he said something crazy. He's like, I'm done with him.

SPEAKER_01:

They uh they're pulling the Charlie Kirk or uh pulling Jimmy Kimmel, and on Friday, on all of those channels, they're gonna run a Charlie Kirk memorial special on ABC. You think he'll be back? I don't think so. They honestly he just said that uh as long as they pay him, you know, he can apologize, then he can come back. Yeah, I don't think he's apologizing.

SPEAKER_02:

He says he don't have nothing to apologize for.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't think he does either. I don't I'm not saying I agree with what he's doing. That's what President Trump said. What did he say?

SPEAKER_02:

Did he say anything negative?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh he came out against um he called them both losers. Fallon and who was the other on NBC? Seth Myers? Who did Fallon did? Trump did. Oh, Trump. Trump just said it.

SPEAKER_02:

Trump says whatever he wants. He don't give a shit. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01:

Isn't that what Kimmel just did?

SPEAKER_02:

Hey, yeah. Isn't that what Kimmel just did? Yeah. But he don't but Fallon's not dead.

SPEAKER_01:

Neither is Kimmel.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I'm just saying, or you know, they're not dead. Like the incident is what is making this a sensitive subject. Yeah, but it's that's what I'm saying. Those guys aren't dead, you know? I understand all right.

SPEAKER_04:

This episode of After Two Beers.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm just saying that's why it's such a hot subject right now.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah. It it's well, like I said, I feel bad for the guy. I uh he definitely didn't deserve that either. But I just um I don't know. This is crazy world. We had guests show up tonight and they're like, I don't even know why they do their show. The show isn't funny at all.

SPEAKER_04:

I thought this isn't even funny.

SPEAKER_01:

Where's the barn fire at? Right? I mean, I had all kinds of stories about Florida people. And we could have done Annabelle shit because you haven't died yet.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, no, Annabelle shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Shit ain't real, man. I'm just telling you. He's gonna you're gonna have a cold. It ain't real. You're gonna have a cold next week. No, it was going around. All right. I uh we're gonna wrap this shit up because this is one of those shows that uh if we weren't live, we would act like this never happened. That's true. Back in the day, we used to record shows all the time. I'm like, yeah, we're not posting that one.

SPEAKER_04:

We're not posting that one.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, hey, it makes it what you makes you you, man. Yeah, I just I just sometimes these subjects you gotta talk about. I I think what it really comes down to for me more than anything else, is that uh I love everybody. I love people in general, and uh we are products of our upbringing and the things that we've been through, and that's what shapes all of us and and it forms our opinions on things, right?

SPEAKER_04:

And regardless if we don't have the same opinions, I was gonna say you love debate, but you're still gonna love everybody that you debate with.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, the only reason I like debate is because I'm one of those guys that actually listens and learn a lot of shit. Yeah. Like I want you to tell me why I the the way I'm looking at it is different. I'm not saying it's wrong. And that's the thing. Everybody thinks that one side is right and one side is wrong. Like I you have to have the ability to look at whatever you consider your side and say, well, yeah, they're my side, but these are eight things they do that are stupid. I if I went to a Joe Biden guy two years ago and said, What's he doing wrong? They wouldn't say nothing. And if I went to a Trump support, name me five things right now that you don't like that Donald Trump does.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, come on, let's not do this. Let's not, nope, nope. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01:

That's my point. No, no, no. My point is, is we've got to get away from this my side, your side. We're fucking Americans.

SPEAKER_04:

We're all supposed to be together. Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. They all do wrong shit.

SPEAKER_04:

And this is all just a way We all do wrong shit. Well, that's the whole point. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh screen correct the reason people are having it all. It's not okay to murder anybody. And just as it wasn't okay for some guy to walk in with a hammer and uh beat up Nancy Pelosi's husband. You're exactly right. But they didn't talk about that much either. That's the whole fucking point. That's the whole point.

SPEAKER_02:

I've agreed with you on the case.

SPEAKER_01:

They wanted to hang Mike Pence on January 6th. They had on the lawn of the National Capitol, they had a uh a gallows ready to go. They were ready to kill the man. You know? You know, we'd be having different conversations. They wanted to what you know what they wanted to do to Nancy Pelosi if they found her in that building. Do you think they would have been nice?

SPEAKER_02:

No. That's but if Trump would have been shot, we'd be having a whole different conversation. Yeah, that's a bad one. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah, I'm I am grateful for this country didn't. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it would have been bad. It wouldn't have been good. Anyway, I agree with you 100% though, Stacy. No one should celebrate anyone's death. At least uh anyone that's just a person that gets up and speaks. Um, you know, there's always a few. Hitler, Putin, guys like that. But uh other than that, no, you shouldn't. This guy was just a speaker. If you didn't like what he was saying, debate him. Yeah, or debate himself. That's my whole point with Jimmy Kittle. Change the channel.

SPEAKER_04:

Change the channel.

SPEAKER_02:

I just couldn't believe it. Uh if those texts are accurate, it's like this dude, just like he was watching TV and like, oh yeah, I killed him. Oh well.

SPEAKER_01:

That's because they're not of right mind. Like, what?

SPEAKER_04:

We know we it's because we have become soft and we don't punish people the way they should be punished.

SPEAKER_01:

This kid had nothing to be punished for up to that point. He's gonna die. Anyway, this is the wildest after two beers podcast ever. I uh I'm officially never writing anything important ever.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, no, don't please don't.

SPEAKER_01:

Maybe on my own. I love you, but it needs to be talked about. It does. I think it is so important. But I and I the reason I bring it up, that's at the national level. I see it here locally. Yeah. There are Facebook pages that basically are just local politicians that are going back and forth at each other, and it does nothing positive for the community. The idea is that if I want to have the biggest house in the neighborhood, I can either build the nicest house or I can tear everybody else's down. And then mine will be the best. And that's what I feel like we're doing. Yeah. And it's sad because what we should be doing is coming together and like, if you've got a tax code and I've got a tax code and we don't agree about it, let's debate why one's different than the other. But if we're gonna start personally attacking each other on politics on things like this, we're not gonna succeed. As Abraham Lincoln said it, and I posted it, and this would be the last thing I say. A house divided cannot stand. We have to come together.

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True that.

SPEAKER_04:

As we should. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

True that play. Yeah. And it just as you shouldn't celebrate the man's death, you shouldn't be calling for a civil war. No. Because a civil war is the last thing that any country needs.

SPEAKER_03:

Amen.

SPEAKER_01:

Amen. All right, all right. And next time we'll talk about butt jokes and stuff.

SPEAKER_04:

I like butt jokes.

SPEAKER_01:

All right. Right. Or eating ass. Eating ass.

SPEAKER_04:

That guy got a little bit more. Let's not talk about eating ass. Anyway. That's gross.

SPEAKER_01:

All right. Uh, thanks again to our Patreon sponsors. If any of them are left after this show. Uh also thanks to our buddy Kevin Shook.

SPEAKER_04:

Thanks to um Beverage Shop, Bottle Shop, what sponsors we have after tonight.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I don't know. I don't think it's anything.

SPEAKER_04:

It's a joke.

SPEAKER_02:

No, honestly, shit needs to be talked about. So chalk it up to that. Respectfully. Yes. Respectfully.

SPEAKER_04:

Respectfully. Agreed. Everybody can have an uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

After the week that happened, good topic.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, well, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I I don't know. I I gotta get Kim to open up more. Good topic.

SPEAKER_04:

I fell asleep a couple times. It's fine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, this is. I'm joking. I'm joking.

SPEAKER_02:

Kimmy don't like talking to my stuff. I don't like talking about it. It's the most important shit to talk about.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but Kimmy don't. So it's fine. It's all right.

SPEAKER_04:

It's good.

SPEAKER_01:

We'll do a show without you next time on this time of stuff.

SPEAKER_04:

We did that last week and you guys didn't did it.

SPEAKER_01:

It was good. It was a good show. I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_04:

All right, and this is my last show. Good seeing everybody.

SPEAKER_01:

Thanks, everybody. Give it or we say it at the end before I get to that. And this is what this is all about. I love everybody. I really, really do. I don't care who you voted for. I don't care who you support. I don't care what your favorite National League Central Major League Baseball team is. I just love you guys. And um life's hard. And that's we're constantly being bombarded by negative shit from everywhere. Whether it's uh at your local watering hole, maybe it's at your local schools, maybe it's uh on your social media. But it shit gets hard. And we all go through challenges, and a lot of people are going through shit you don't even realize. Has nothing to do with any of this stuff. And it leads me to, without question, the most important thing we say at the end of every show. It's simply this. If you know someone in your life that you feel like, man, they just don't seem like themselves. Maybe they're struggling, maybe uh they just look like um life's getting them down. Do me a favor. Just reach out to them. Ask them how they're doing, how they've been. Invite them to watch our show. Let them go back and watch previous shows that are better than this one. But uh, just reach out to people. We need to be human beings again to each other. And uh Um, we all need some help from time to time. There's nobody that's super strong in this world.

SPEAKER_04:

Mental health is a big deal.

SPEAKER_01:

And I'm telling you, we have got to figure out a way in this country to help with mental health and the homelessness. Otherwise, we're gonna be in a shitstorm pretty soon. All right, Gibler, Putin is not here, Screddy. We say it at the end of every show, and it is by far the well, not the most important, the second most important thing. We will talk to them all next time.

SPEAKER_04:

After two beers. Take me home! Take me on home.