The Asia New Zealand Foundation's Graeme Acton speaks to Professor Bates Gill  - China expert and author currently with Macquarie University in Sydney - about China's involvement in the Pacific.  What's behind the latest moves? What should New Zealand do? And how will the Pacific change under the proposed closer economic and political relationship with China?  Professor Gill's new book "Daring to Struggle: China's Global Ambitions Under Xi Jinping" is out now. 

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Whakawhetai mo te whakarongo .. thanks for listening !