Join us as we sit down with the vibrant Lynette Fitzpatrick, a highly accomplished realtor and designer hailing from the Greater Grand Rapids Michigan area. Lynette's journey is steeped in a rich tapestry of experience and passion, from her humble beginnings in Cedar Springs to her successful career in real estate and interior design. Get ready to be inspired by her story of resilience and determination, as she shares how she navigates the dynamic and often challenging world of real estate with a positive outlook and a heartfelt conviction in the power of empathy.
With a background in interior design and a knack for home staging and flipping, Lynette's approach to real estate is both creative and strategic. As we delve into the impact of the pandemic, she sheds light on how she has transformed adversity into opportunity, establishing a new avenue in the form of a midterm rental business. We also explore the 'Six I's' principle, a transformative perspective on conflict resolution that can assist in better understanding the motivations of others.
Rounding off our conversation, Lynette imparts the essence of stoicism and how it can be a guiding light during our darkest hours, underlining the importance of kindness and self-reflection. Listen as we delve into the significance of appreciating every job, engaging in meaningful conversations and how simple acts of kindness can create a profound impact. Concluding the episode, Lynette talks about her love for her family, her businesses, and her city, Grand Rapids, reminding us all to chase our dreams with passion and courage.
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Join us as we sit down with the vibrant Lynette Fitzpatrick, a highly accomplished realtor and designer hailing from the Greater Grand Rapids Michigan area. Lynette's journey is steeped in a rich tapestry of experience and passion, from her humble beginnings in Cedar Springs to her successful career in real estate and interior design. Get ready to be inspired by her story of resilience and determination, as she shares how she navigates the dynamic and often challenging world of real estate with a positive outlook and a heartfelt conviction in the power of empathy.
With a background in interior design and a knack for home staging and flipping, Lynette's approach to real estate is both creative and strategic. As we delve into the impact of the pandemic, she sheds light on how she has transformed adversity into opportunity, establishing a new avenue in the form of a midterm rental business. We also explore the 'Six I's' principle, a transformative perspective on conflict resolution that can assist in better understanding the motivations of others.
Rounding off our conversation, Lynette imparts the essence of stoicism and how it can be a guiding light during our darkest hours, underlining the importance of kindness and self-reflection. Listen as we delve into the significance of appreciating every job, engaging in meaningful conversations and how simple acts of kindness can create a profound impact. Concluding the episode, Lynette talks about her love for her family, her businesses, and her city, Grand Rapids, reminding us all to chase our dreams with passion and courage.
lynettefitzpatrick.com
http://michiganfurnishedrentals.com/
https://www.facebook.com/lynette.fitzpatricktenbrink/
https://www.instagram.com/lynettefitzpatrickrealtor/
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Speaker 2:Welcome everyone to this week's episode of the Bamboo Lab podcast. This is episode 101. And most of you probably noticed we've taken a month off. I was doing a lot of traveling as well. I was looking for some amazing guests to bring on, so we have a great lineup of people over the next few weeks. Today is no exception. But before we introduce our amazing guest today, I just want to go through the recent analytics.
Speaker 2:As of this morning, we are now being subscribed to and broadcasted on six continents, 62 countries around the world in 1,810 cities, and I want to thank all of you Bamboo Pack members out there for not only subscribing and smashing that like button, but all for all your rating and reviewing and their emails that we send, the heartletters that we get as well. Thank you for sharing with people you love. That's how this is growing so rapidly to become in the top 23% of all podcasts in the world right now. It's all because of you. All I do is bring on these amazing people and ask questions and give them a platform to speak. So this is all due to the amazing guests and to all of you audience members out there. I thank you from the bottom of my heart. All right, today we're introducing a lady today that I really only talked to for the first time literally 10 minutes ago, but I've seen her on Facebook. I followed her on Facebook and everything she posts on there is just so well done. It's very positive, it's very uplifting, it's very bright and cheery and I thought I'm going to reach out to Lynette. So today we have Lynette Fitzpatrick on and Lynette is one of the top realtors in the Greater Grand Rapids Michigan area.
Speaker 2:She takes a multifaceted approach to serving her clients and, supported by her incredible passion and background and you'll see this if you ever see her Facebook stuff A lot of passion and experience in interior design, staging, flipping and in new home construction. She's working with sellers, buyers and investors. It has allowed her to stay on top of the buyer and market trends and because of this passion and this deep interest she has in design and trends, she's able to incorporate the forefront of those desired trends into the homes in order to drive market interest. The sellers and investors she works with are thrilled with her ROI. As a direct result of her design experience, she's a multiple award-winning recipient through her local Home Builders Association and she's in the top 10% of all realtors in the Greater Grand Rapids area and there are a lot of realtors in Grand Rapids. I know that the quality of her work has made it all the way to producers for a spot on one of HGTV's shows.
Speaker 2:Her passion for real estate and design shows throughout all areas. She's a lifelong West Michigander. Outside of real estate, her passions include anything to do with interior design and helping animals. She is the mother of three beautiful children. She's a dog mom and she currently lives in Rockford Michigan and she has a little cold today, folks, so her voice may be a little different and she's got a little 12 and a half pound dog and they're reading meters outside her place and the dog might bark a few times, but that's perfectly okay, as many of you have reached out saying you love the background noise sometimes. So anyway, without further ado, my new friend Lynette, welcome to the Bamboo Lab podcast.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure man, it's great to be here.
Speaker 2:And she asked me today everybody, why me? Why did you choose me? And I'm like dude, everybody has a story and for some reason, after 100 episodes, I'm getting a little bit better. Anyway, I'm just seeing people and saying I got to bring that person on. So this is one of those deals. So, Lynette, I don't really know a lot about you, so I'm excited to ask this first question, and that is can you please tell us a little bit about yourself, your childhood, your family, where you're from? I know you're from greater Grand Rapids area, but who or what inspired you? Just give us a snapshot of you growing up.
Speaker 3:Sure. Well, to your point, my mom always said Lynette came out happy and she stayed that way. That might be where that's coming from. I am an only child, which some people are surprised to hear. I grew up on 10 acres in Cedar Springs. I went to a really small private school. I graduated with the same five kids that I started out kindergarten with. Yeah, it's crazy. My mom always drove inside to people. Well, that graduated in the top five in her class and everybody's like, oh wow, how many, how many were there? My mom's like five, it's still top five.
Speaker 3:One of her favorite jokes. Yeah, so my parents. They met when my mom was 14 and my dad was 16 and they were together until my mom passed away unexpectedly about five years ago. So my grandparents owned 40 acres that they split off and tends to give to my mom's siblings, so it was like a little compound. I had my aunts and uncles and my grandparents all on the same 40 acres and we went to a little country church with about 100 people. It was a small community.
Speaker 2:I've never heard of a graduating class of five people.
Speaker 3:I know I don't hear how the first one to say that, yeah, so it was a private, it was a pro-peal school.
Speaker 3:It's called an ACE school Accelerated Christian Education but you know I have a lot of great takeaways because I was so close with everybody the whole school, honestly, and my teachers and they taught real life lessons too, and we had the only two sports we had was basketball and volleyball.
Speaker 3:And so, you know, us girls played volleyball and we started playing volleyball from the time we were young together until, you know, all the way up through graduating, and so we would travel because there were not very many ACE schools like ours. So we would have to travel and, you know, our teachers and coaches would go and our families would go, and so it was a completely different experience than a public school, for sure. And you know, growing up I felt really different because, you know, we wore uniforms and we kind of were makeup and it was really strict and we didn't have dances and we didn't, you know, have all the sports and things like that. But as I've gotten older I've learned to appreciate the other lessons. You know that I did take away from just being so close with my teachers and the trips that we took and all of the things that we learned. You know that some kids don't have that opportunity of learning.
Speaker 2:I mean I think that's amazing. I mean I grew up in the upper peninsula of Michigan. I think we had like 73 in my graduating class. That's not obviously big at all, but I think it does allow for some really cool I mean lifelong friendships, or at least you're going to stay close with the four people that you are you graduate with, because there's only five of you total. I mean I think that's really cool. Right Was there? Were there popular groups and unpopular groups?
Speaker 3:You know what that's funny there still was all that. There was definitely all that. There were these small cliques and popular people and not so popular people. You know we still had all the normal things like that. But you know, I remember the band trips and the bus trips and you know just really intimate conversations with, you know, the teachers and the other kids and parents and you know I now I just see so much more value in the life lessons that you know I learned from that.
Speaker 2:Well, growing up then I mean, you came out happy and you stayed that way Was there a person or an event or something, a book or something that inspired you as a child?
Speaker 3:You know, I was just always, I've always just been really positive and happy and you know not, you know my dad, my dad yes, I would just say my dad was always such an inspiration to me growing up. I mean, I was, you know, I'm an only child, so I was just so close with my parents and I did everything with my parents and you know, they took me everywhere and they rarely got a babysitter. They just wanted me with them all the time. They tried for seven years to have me and then they couldn't have any more. So they just wanted me, they just wanted me right with them.
Speaker 3:But my, you know my dad. I can share a little bit about him. He was born with a foot deformity and so he, he was never able to run or play any sports and you know it's an obvious handicap. So that was, you know, that was tough on him and he grew up on a farm and so he, from the time I think he was eight years old, you know, he had to work on the farm after school and homework and he's just, he's always been such a hard worker and such an inspiration to me and such an overcomer. And he, his, his dad, wanted him to take over the farm, but he, he didn't. He decided not to do that and he wanted to go into auto body repair and so he went into the city he calls it, you know, because he grew up in Theatres Springs too, on a farm and started working for an auto body shop.
Speaker 3:And then, when I was 10, him and my mom stepped out in faith and decided to open their own business. And they opened the business right next to our house and it was so nice because my mom worked, right, you know, she did all of the running for parts and she did all of the bookkeeping and all the marketing, you know. And my dad worked in the business and he, just he worked so hard and I saw that and you know, from eight o'clock in the morning till sometimes one o'clock the next morning. Just I remember Leigh Ann and Badge is worrying about him, thinking he's going to die, he's working too much, he's going to have a heart attack. I would keep looking out my window to see when the lights were going to shut off up there.
Speaker 3:But always such a hard worker and you know, I definitely get my work ethic from my parents and just watching them always just do the right thing. And you know, even if, even if it wasn't the easy thing to do or my dad was going to potentially lose a job or lose money, he always did the right thing by everybody and I can honestly tell you I think to this day my dad does not have an enemy in the world. Everybody just loves him and speaks so highly of him and people still talk to me about you know the work that my dad did on their vehicles and the experience they had with my parents and you know I just watch people stop by the house and by the body shop just to see my mom and dad and you know it was just always it was a great, great opportunity to be able to see. You know how they, how they built their business and grew their business and that has really helped me in growing my own businesses.
Speaker 2:I'm sure, and your dad's still with us then he is.
Speaker 3:Yes, yup, he is. But, god, we almost lost him. Over the summer. He he was being treated for what they thought was acid reflux, and then he ended up having a massive heart attack. And then he had to have bypass surgery, emergency open heart surgery, and then, about a week after he went home, he ended up getting blood clots. And then he went back in and had another heart attack and a whole host of things. We almost lost him. So, yes, he is still with us.
Speaker 2:Good, good. What's his first name?
Speaker 3:Ed. His name is Ed.
Speaker 2:We want to. We're just going to let you know we're very glad that you're still with us and keep fighting, man. You've done a great job with this daughter of yours. Your legacy is continuing to live on, man, so this one goes out to you, ed. This whole podcast is dedicated to you. That's pretty cool. I love what you said and I think a lot of the listeners can take a lot. And I that really hit me is always do the right thing, even if it's not the easy thing. And I think in our society, lynette, we just tend to constantly try to make more money, we constantly try to improve our, our, our social image, so to speak, or you know, we're just constantly chasing something. But if you just break it down to that simple thing always do the right thing, even if it's not the easy thing you're going to get what you want out of life.
Speaker 2:I think that you know that's the American dream, right there and now you know, to be a gentleman of you know, an elderly, elderly gentleman who has all these friends, not an enemy in the world. People love him and respect him. I mean, that's how I want to retire.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I mean there's no money in the world that can replace that.
Speaker 3:No, there really isn't. And you know, my mom was so well respected and loved as well, and you know, she she actually her aorta dissected when she was walking on the treadmill about five years ago and so she passed away unexpectedly at 69. And so that that was obviously the most difficult thing my dad and I have ever been through. You know, those two being together from the time they were 14 and 16. And they got married when they were 16 and 18. And my mom didn't even graduate from school, she just got married and they just started doing life. And so you know, my dad was like distraught.
Speaker 3:I was worried that I was going to lose him too, because he was just distraught. So you know, I I almost didn't even stop long enough to allow myself to grieve. It was just in full speed ahead motion, like we have just got to keep his head above water and keep him, you know, going because my mom ran everything, my dad just worked, you know. So I remember my dad didn't even know how to boil hot dog. He's like, he's like what do I do? You know, because she just handled everything and it was just, it was, it was um, life changing for sure.
Speaker 3:So, but my dad has since met somebody and he just got remarried. Last summer they just celebrated their one year anniversary. So you know, he's um, he's doing well and living his best life and retiring and now he's healing and because, yeah, we almost lost him like 10 years ago. Before too, he had um, he got food poisoning and ruptured his esophagus while he was throwing up and almost died so, and then two weeks he was in the hospital for like over two weeks and then he got septic from the infection around his esophagus and he almost died again. So his doctors are like dude, knock it off, you're like a cat.
Speaker 2:That is a tough bird right there, man, I'll tell you he's dodging bullets left and right.
Speaker 3:He really is. He doesn't think it's as funny as the rest of us. He's like come on, when am I going to get a break? He's doing well now.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm not, if I can find there. I found some wood. All knock on it and keep him going. Well, ed, if it makes you feel any better, ed, I, unless it's on a grill, I probably don't know. I really don't know how to boil a hot dog either. I mean, microwave or grill is pretty much my my go to. So, um, so you know, lynette, not just in the real estate industry, but also in in the design and in your personal life or whatever. In the last couple of years, obviously the last three years, we've gone through a lot of changes in our country and around the world. Do the, the quarantining and the you know whatever pandemic. Um, what has been your greatest learning during that timeframe?
Speaker 3:Oh goodness, you know it's I. You know, in real estate it's always up and down, right, ebs and flows, and I've been fortunate enough since I um got into real estate in 2016. Um, you know, I just started right out. I was at a, I was at a um new agent training and they were like I remember someone saying you have to get to people to um know you, like you, trust you and then want to do business with you. And I was like, well, that's my sphere, so I'm just going to pour into my sphere. So I started out doing that and so I've been blessed to work um pretty much just on all referrals Um. So the, even through the pandemic and things like that, um, I've been able to stay really steady, which has been such a blessing Um. But you know, I've I've definitely um seen some opportunities through that, for you know, other um areas of income and different ways to bring in um more income. And so I started um teaching in an investor course.
Speaker 3:Um, it was a zoom, of course, because we weren't going anywhere but um flipping out of budget because I've had my interior design business. I mean, I've been, I've been doing design forever. I remember, you know, every time I go to a friend's house, I was redesigning their bedrooms. So you know, I grew up doing that, but I started my business in 2002. And so I was teaching some investor courses and another teacher was teaching on midterm rentals and I was like, well, that's interesting.
Speaker 3:So you know, I took her course and I just kind of started thinking, you know, there's a lot of people who are now going to be working from home, you know, and I was hearing a lot of people saying, well, I no longer have to go into the office so I can live wherever I want to.
Speaker 3:And so I knew, you know, there was going to be some travel involved where people were probably going to have to go, you know, and stay. You know we're what am I trying to say? Travel for work and like contract work, and you know, traveling to different cities and stuff like that. So I started this midterm rental business where I acquire and set up in design and market and host guests and midterm rentals in the area. So you know it's just going through. What we've been going through kind of helps you to readjust your business model and pivot and look for opportunities, and so I mean it's been a great blessing and that business is really growing. And I just see it as something that came out of, you know, the pandemic and just really having to think outside the box.
Speaker 2:I love that. You know you have I think you and I probably have a lot of mutual friends in the. I don't think most people know this, but when I started my coaching practice 27 years ago, I was in Detroit. Where was I? Was in Detroit or Ann Arbor, where did I live? I don't know. I lived, I think, in Novi actually, and my first clients were architects and interior designers. Oh wow, really, I don't know why. I know nothing about either one of those, but it just worked out that way.
Speaker 2:And then you start getting referrals and I went on to my, where my primary business is, working in the financial industry. But then during my divorce, seven, 18 years ago, I was given full custody of Dawson, my son. So I had to kind of take my business, which was all over the country and I couldn't travel anymore, and I had to apply it to Grand Rapids and I joined Leeds groups and Chambers of Commerce and Local First, and I started, you know, networking and built a practice locally for a couple of years until I could get my footing and then I could, you know, start traveling again and I worked with a lot of realtors. I coached a lot of realtors. In fact, when I was looking this morning at your Facebook page. I started looking at mutual friends and things like that, so we definitely have a lot of them. We'll share some names up when we get off air here.
Speaker 3:I'm sure we do yeah it's a cool world man.
Speaker 2:I really was intrigued by the real estate world when I was coaching. I still don't understand it, there is so much to it. But in design I was coaching a designer out of Ann Arbor my first. I think she was my second client. My first one was an architect and I coached her for like two years and I was right in her office and at that time I would get a portion of your increase in profits. It wasn't a straight retainer, if you like it is now, but because I was untested and I would go in their offices for like three or four hours a day and I'm like what in the hell are you guys doing? I don't understand anything you're saying or doing. Like none of it made sense. It was like they were talking in a foreign language and I was just there, you know, trying to get them to be more productive, and it was so challenging but it was so much fun.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. It is. I mean, just like with interior design. There's no two jobs that are the same. There's no two you know, projects that are the same. And I love doing, you know projects interior design for my buyers and sellers because you know it scratches that design itch. But I'm also doing the real estate piece, you know. So I can help my sellers get their properties ready to sell and help them get the most return on their money. And then when I work with my buyers, you know I can help them make any changes that they want. You know it's definitely beneficial when we're going through houses and they're like, oh, but I don't like this. I'm like, well, we can do this and we can change this and you can do this, and you know, take this wall out and add this here. So it's definitely been a huge bonus to my real estate business.
Speaker 2:Oh, I can imagine that fits perfectly. I mean, you'd be in shock if you could see a zoom of my place right now. I have literally I have nothing on the wall, there's not even a, and I have a ton of paintings and art. Nothing has been put on the wall, except for I have a calendar of my son, of my grandson Jack, that my daughter gave me for Christmas. That hangs in my kitchen just because it's. There was one nail in the wall, I just put it there, but I-.
Speaker 3:Well, that's an important thing it is. That's an important thing to have hung up.
Speaker 2:For sure. What I've noticed and I know this is a very remedial I'm not gonna talk interior design with you, but even having a blank wall makes a house cold.
Speaker 3:It does yeah.
Speaker 2:And I understand Feng Shui a little bit, so I tried to Feng Shui my living room a little bit. I coached a Feng Shui expert actually in Grand Rapids, 22, 21 years ago, out of Forest Hills, and so I get a little bit of that. But that my house. I'm gonna have my daughter come down and help me. Just tell me where should things go. But I'm not here often enough. I was home last night, I'm home for the night. I'll be gone for three or four nights and I'm gonna be home for a night. Then I'm gone for another week or two. So when I get settled in, when the snow starts to fall up here and I'm stuck here a little more, I'm gonna actually make this place a little more aesthetically pleasing. I love that. It's just me and my dog anyway. I mean, nobody ever comes over. I visit my children so they don't have to drive down here very often. So it's just me and Chloe.
Speaker 3:You still want it to be. This is what I always tell my design clients. You want a place that you're excited to come home to and excited to show off to your friends, like it's just like. You know, I don't entertain that much because I'm always doing stuff with my kids at work or whatever, but I'm excited to come home to my house and I look around, I'm like this is so great, this is so cozy. I love being here.
Speaker 2:I couldn't agree with you more. That'll be my inspiration to getting my stuff out. When I come back on Sunday, I'll get my paintings out. They're in the garage. I know that they're all boxes in the garage and I'll pull them out and I'll set them in here anyway. So when I come home in a couple of weeks I can at least start thinking of where things go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, do it for you. Don't do it for other people, do it for you.
Speaker 2:That's a really good point. There's nobody else to do it for anyway. So my house looks more like an office, because I have a desk and I've got whiteboards and I've got a podcasting station. It really will walk in here and books everywhere. It really looks like an office that I just happened to sleep in and that's-.
Speaker 3:Well, if you can stop, you can FaceTime with me and I can help you. Tell you where to hang your stuff.
Speaker 2:I'll take you up on that for sure. All right, I'm gonna ask you this difficult question, Lynette. I know you can refuse to answer it and say it, brother or not, but the question is over the course of your life, what is one of the most difficult things you've gone through? And then, how did you overcome it? How did you scale that wall?
Speaker 3:You know, I just well, the death of my mom was obviously really tough but I think over my lifetime is just dealing with some negativity in my life and some naysayers and I had some worry, warts and negativity and, like I said, just naysayers and doom and gloom around me and people you know who try to suppress your joy or our, you know, joy suckers and it's hard sometimes. It's hard not to get pulled into that and not to believe those things about yourself and to rise above it. And you know, when you have that around you for so long, it is tough to not believe that. So I mean you have to.
Speaker 3:I've had to really dig deep and, especially over these past five years, really dig deep and find the strengths you know inside and suppress that negativity and those lies that you know you are told about yourself and rise above it and just really believe in yourself and know that you can do hard things and I think that's I have done hard things and you know things that I never thought I could achieve and but you, just you know you definitely have it in you. You just you have to believe in yourself and it's a constant battle of just shoving that negativity down and just I always tell my kids too and I live by this, especially since my mom died I'm like you always get through what you're going through. You do like I'm like, look at what we've been through as a family, look at what you guys have been through. You know and they're dealing with.
Speaker 3:You know things on a smaller scale, you know in my opinion, but to them it's the biggest thing in the world. I'm like you guys. Nobody's dying is one of the things that I whip out.
Speaker 3:I'm like nobody's dying Since my mom died too. I'm like, okay, this is the worst of the worst. So I always say there's nobody's dying. And you always get through what you're going through and sometimes I'm like, okay, remember this Now, look at that, look how that turned out.
Speaker 3:And so you know, I just really have tried to live that and really practice what I preach and it honestly helps, like when I'm going through something and you know I mean you know that if you're a mover and a shaker and you're constantly moving forward and you're building businesses and you are out there, you're going to have problems coming at you and you're going to have difficulties coming at you and obstacles and roadblocks. And you just have to. I have to sit myself down and say, listen, you're going to get through this. I have to play it. You know, play it through. What's the worst thing that could happen? You know this is going to be okay. You always get through what you're going through. And then I come out on the other side. I'm like, yep, seek, just always need to remember to take my own advice.
Speaker 2:Well, that's it. Do you do any journaling, or gratitude journaling or anything, meditation or anything that's like that, something like that to help you get through those things? I mean to stay positive like you are, especially having gone through years of naysayers and people telling you lies about yourself and suppressing your joy. Is it just you keeping your mind clear, or is there something you do?
Speaker 3:You know, there's a couple of things that I do. I always look at someone is always worse off than me, someone is always going through a bigger struggle than me and I count my blessings. I think of all of the things, like, when I get up in the morning, like I can get out of bed by myself, my feet at the floor, I have air in my lungs and I think, you know, whenever I start getting upset about something or wishing for something, or whatever, I'm like there's somebody or I don't want to work out. I'm like there's somebody in wheelchair wishing that they could work out right now, or there's somebody laying in a hospital bed wishing that they were having my problems today. You know, and it's just, and there's a fine line between, like, when I do that with my kids, I'm like listen, you know, there's people that are worse off. There's a fine line between validating their feelings and I have to do that with myself too Like, yeah, this is really crappy and what I'm going through right now is really crappy. I have to. You know, it's the worst thing I'm going through right now. So I validate that, I give that to myself, I give that to my kids, like, yeah, this really does suck and I get why you're feeling so bad. But let's look at some positive things, let's look on the bright side, let's look at the other side of this and coming out on the other side and be thankful that you know A, b and C. So you know that is one thing that I do.
Speaker 3:Another thing that I do and this is more with conflict and you know, naysayers and things like that Like I always, before I react or, you know, to kind of calm myself down if I get really upset about something, I always literally put myself not literally, but really put myself in the other person's shoes.
Speaker 3:Try to feel what they're feeling, try to see things from their standpoint, try to understand and that is something that helps me a lot to de-escalate a situation or to resolve an issue. You know, even with my kids, with coworkers, with whoever it's been relationships, you know, just really try and see things from their point of view, because I hate being mad, I hate being angry, I hate being upset. So it's something that I've learned to do over the years and probably because of some of the situations I've been in, but it helps me to feel better and to understand the you know what's happening to me and why it might be happening to me, and kind of play the devil's advocate and then try to resolve rather than react or fight or anything like that. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:It makes a lot of sense, you know. I think that the second thing you said there is I was listening to Joe Rogan yesterday when I was driving and he talked about. Every time he sees somebody doing something stupid or mean, he pictures them as a little baby and he said that was somebody's little innocent baby. And the vast majority of people, when they're doing things that hurt us, they're just doing their best in life. They're not usually intentionally trying to do something, they're just they're going through something and to be able to empathize that way, you know, not only does it bring peace to them a little, it brings peace to you, you know that's exactly right, Selfishly, yes it does, and that's probably it's a coping thing, right, like I don't want to feel this way.
Speaker 3:So I'm hoping that I can understand this in a different light and, you know, figure this out for both people or whatever the situation is. But that's true and I do say that quite often, if something's, you know someone's coming at you, or or you know they're flipping you off when you're driving past them, or I'm like I feel bad for them, like their life must be, something's going on with them right now, to just think that they need to do that to me, like you know. So it is looking at things a little bit differently and you know, from the other persons point of view, and I think too, I'm I am an empath, and so I think it might come a little bit more naturally for me to do that, but that in and of itself is a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 2:Yeah no for sure. Well, I believe that people do things for a. I call them the six eyes, and when people do something that seems stupid or hurtful, or trying, or they're hurting someone, they have six reasons. They all happen to start with the letter I. It's intent, indifference, ignorance, inability, insecurity or immaturity. And I think, as human beings, because we have that little thing in our brain called the amygdala, which is there to detect threats we don't have a lot of threats anymore. I mean we don't have typhoons and try other neighbor, you know neighboring tribes trying to grape and pillage our village. We don't have wolves and you know cats trying to kill us. So we still we see danger in so many different scenarios and when somebody does something that seems to hurt us, we immediately think it was their intent, or they are, they don't they're, or they're indifferent, they don't care if they hurt us.
Speaker 2:That's a small percentage. It's normally ignorance. They didn't even know what they said was going to hurt you, or they didn't know they did, or said it, or it's inability. They don't have another way to do what they're doing, but with the way they do it hurts us. Or sometimes it's insecurity. It's just they're insecure people and even that insecurity is. Usually there's some ignorance in there. They don't because they're insecure. They don't know that what they're doing is harmful.
Speaker 2:And I always look at that and I try to judge person. What is the what? Which one of the eyes are they? And sometimes it is intent. Sometimes they're just mean people out there, but that's really rare, right? We found it's about 4% of the time that somebody hurts you. It's that it's really only 3 to 4% of the time is it intent? And when you can look at it from that perspective, you can actually handle the situation from a different level versus going right back at them. You can look, you know, step back and say it's probably ignorance, they don't know, or it's inability, they don't know having a better way to do it, or it's insecurity, and that insecurity is, you know that's it makes me feel bad for them. So I think that's exactly.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to trying to explain, like you just seeing it from really, from there, from their point of view, and that's that's so you're right on. Like that's exactly. It's not. It's not always about me, right? I'm not the center of everybody's world. You're not another talk lesson to learn it is about me? What?
Speaker 2:well when I'm, when I get to visit my set grandson Jack tonight this afternoon, I will guarantee he does think he is the center of the universe. There is no doubt in his mind, and I think that's probably true for all two-year-olds.
Speaker 3:But I don't know when they outgrow that. I'm pretty sure my 21-year-olds still think that too oh yeah, I think they all do.
Speaker 2:I loved what you said. You always get through what you're going through. I I love that. That might be the title of today's episode. I love that because it's so succinct, so simple but so powerful, like you always get through what you're going through. Yeah, you always do, and it seems funny because we go through a challenge, a difficult time. We get through it and then we kind of forget about it and then a while later we go through another one and we kind of forget that, hey, we went through that last one, it passed. This one's gonna pass you, but when you're in the middle of it it's so hard to realize, when you're in the middle of a tornado, that it's gonna pass.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're gonna get through it. I mean, I, I do live by that. I thought myself that all the time when, when I call them, opportunities arise, I'm like, okay, we always get through, we're going through, we're gonna do this, you know and I do, and I do, and then you're right.
Speaker 2:You have to remind yourself of that, okay, remember when, yeah, yeah have you ever read the book the obstacle is the way by Ryan Holiday?
Speaker 2:no okay, I'll write it down, I'm gonna. I'll get you a copy. I haven't sent to you. It's a really, you're welcome.
Speaker 2:It's a book regarding the philosophy of stoicism, which stoicism is the belief that every bad thing happens to us for a reason and it's not what's happening to us, it's how we react to it. And the book I think I've read it six times. I try to read it once a year. And then he has another book, a company book, called the Daily Stoic, which is a book that every day you read an affirmation on stoicism and it just frames everything, like you know, everything you're going through. There is, there's a reason for it and there's power in it and we have to deal with it a certain way.
Speaker 2:And I think you know I did a, I talked, told you before I spoke last week down in East Lansing and I talked regarding how we find our purpose in life during these the dark moments. We don't find our purpose in life during the great times. Things are going well, we're not, we're not really introspective at that time. It's when you're in those dark moments of life and the world is shitting on you, that's when you find purpose if you, if you open up and listen to what the universe is saying to you at that time. I love it I.
Speaker 3:Some of my best, some of my best ideas and some of my most profound moments were born out of that, that, those places that you're talking about all the time.
Speaker 2:So, as this eternal optimist and a positive person you know came out happy and stayed that way right now, at your stage in life, with your children in your career, what is a win for you? What do you consider to be a victory?
Speaker 3:honestly what we've already touched on just being able to overcome what I've been through and come out on the other side and kind of prove people wrong and honestly I think that's been a huge motor bait.
Speaker 3:Motivator for me is just to say, hey, you know, I do have greatness within me and I can do amazing things and you know I just my kids are incredible and I'm at such a great place in my life and my businesses are flourishing and opportunities are coming and I, just, you know I, I also, just I live by, I leave people better than you found them and I truly, just like my mom and dad, you know I just try and do right by everybody and not chase the money. Just really, if you truly have everybody's best interests in mind, that will just follow naturally and you know I learned that from my parents and so that is just feels good, to always have people's best interests in mind and always do the right thing, that we are never worried or never second-guessing, you're always doing your best and that you're just, you're rewarded for that and it's just kind of it's the natural best way to do things.
Speaker 2:It is. I love that. Leave people better than you found them. You know, I don't really care what a person's profession or job might be. I always tell my clients we all have one role in life and that is to increase the sense of self-worth of other people. If you can do increase other people's sense of self-worth, make them feel better and sometimes that is comes through challenging them really hard on things. When you can do that, I mean you make the world a better place, and that's really what our job should be.
Speaker 3:Leave it better than we found it, I love that that is so true and my kids will think it's so annoying because I talk to everybody people in my grocery store. I just want to talk to everybody because I want everybody to have a good day, just like I'm having a good day, and they're like mom, you're so weird. But if I see someone, they're like their hair, they're sure their pants or shoes or whatever. I'm gonna tell them like, oh my gosh, I love that. And I was just. I just was reading something the other day. I'm like you don't, you don't know what that person's going through or how much that could mean to somebody that you just told them that they look nice or what I mean a complete stranger. I'm like, yeah, just do it. Just don't be afraid to do it. I've had struck up so amazing conversations. I'm not amazing people just by starting with I love your shirt.
Speaker 2:It's so cool. I mean it's random acts of kindness. That's really what it is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it annoys my children, but you know, that's what I'm here for.
Speaker 2:I had a guest on I don't know several months ago and he was said something very profound. His name is Art DeLorenzo, he's out of New York and he he said, when we say something kind to someone and we look them in the eye, when we're saying at a stranger, when we go to bed we remember that face and our brain remembers that kindness that we shared. And he said it is the best sleeping pill possible. And I'm like that and I. What it's funny when you go like I go into a lot of gas stations when I you know I'll stop and get a bottle of water or a power protein thing. That was my son and I or I'm driving alone and it's always interesting.
Speaker 2:Those people who work at gas stations normally aren't very happy people. It's their job is not easy. They have a bunch of idiots coming in all day. And when you walk in and say, hey, what? Yesterday I was in Lansing and I was getting gas and I this guy had, he was kind of grumpy, you didn't even look at me. Good morning, he said and I'm like, and his hat said something on it, I don't know what.
Speaker 2:It was an initial. It said what does that mean? And it was a band that he goes, that he's a fan of, and he went on to tell me where the band plays, what kind of music they play it's indie rock and where they started. And the lead singer, his dad, was a reporter, I think, at the Grand Rapids Press or Lansing State Journal or something, and he just went on talking to me, got done. It was hope you have a great day, so safe travels to the UP. I'm like that guy just flipped because of one simple question what does your hat mean? You know? And we don't do that enough. We don't call people by their names, we don't say have a great day, how's your day going, and we do that I really mean it has to be genuine.
Speaker 3:You got, you have to live genuine right and that I mean that's so true and I tell my kids you know, I tell my kids the same thing like you just have to always be genuine like you. Just you can't fake it either. You have to, if you're gonna ask the question, genuinely care about the answer right, don't be robotic about it and yours you're so right to about.
Speaker 3:You know everybody having like his job matters like everybody. No matter what people do, their job matters like anybody. I remind my kids of that too, like it doesn't matter what you do, everybody's job is important. I mean, just think about all the things and convenience is throughout your daily life. I mean someone's making that and someone's serving that, and you know it's just. Every job is important.
Speaker 2:That guy's job was really important yeah, because if he did, if he wasn't doing it, I'm not getting gas in a bottle of water you know I mean so you know, my mother worked in.
Speaker 2:I'm from St Ignis, michigan in the upper Peninsula small town of, you know, 2800 people or something. For 60 years she worked at the St Ignis laundromat and the only reason she quit was because maybe five or six years ago they shut it down and turn it into a I don't know, it's a coffee shop or a church or I don't know what it is. But and she's 88 now she still does work. She works at a gift shop up there and just. But her role in 60 years was not to do laundry. She did laundry, but it was. She met so many amazing people and every time I would go in there to see her as I'm driving through or coming to visit, she'd have two or three friends sitting there drinking coffee, sitting on the chairs and just visiting her. And she's met amazing friends that would come up and live.
Speaker 2:You know, in my hometown is a resort town, a tourist town. They come up and stay and she met these tourists that now have become friends of hers. Now they come up and visit in the summertime because she just engages people in conversation and my mom's very straightforward. She can sometimes put you, she'll put you in your place, but she's also very engaging in conversation and she's she's genuinely interested in other people and and it's so great and she's a very positive person as well. I mean, sometimes when I was growing up I didn't think that, but we never do a single mom raising five kids. You know my dad died when I was young, so you know she had a tough, tough gig, but she, she always had that mentality that life is tough but we're tougher, and she never said those words, but that was, that was always the way. That's the learning I picked up for my mom that's.
Speaker 3:That's a great one.
Speaker 2:It's great why it's it's right up there with you. Always get through what you're going through that's right, those are good ones yeah, all right, I love this question.
Speaker 2:So, lynette, if I were to drive down to Grand Rapidsane and put you in a time machine and we flew off to say you're to a point in your past when you were young 2025, somewhere in that age range and you were able to sit down on a park bench at Rosa Park Circle right now and you're talking to your younger self, what pieces of advice would you give her? What words of wisdom would you say?
Speaker 3:I would probably tell her not to lather up with baby oil and lantern foil you do that, everybody did that back in the day. I did that. I've had skin cancer three times because of it, so yeah, that'll do it.
Speaker 2:That'll do it.
Speaker 3:You know, I would just say I would tell myself that you know hard times are coming. It's inevitable. Tough times are coming, but they always do and you are tougher than you think you are and you're going to get through, like I just I've been through some pretty dark times in my life and really questioning myself and my abilities and who I was, and felt pretty worthless at times and like I wasn't going to mount anything and just a lot of insecurities growing up.
Speaker 3:Then, you know, when I was younger and married, and I would just tell myself I would wish that I could show myself where I'm at now you know and explain that like, wow, like I am better at 49 than I have ever been and happier and content, and have done the hard work and the hard things, and you know you're going to get through it and you're going to be better at almost 50 than you've ever been in your life.
Speaker 2:I mean, when you look back at your younger self, do you think right now she's proud of you?
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely. I actually just posted something about that a couple of days, or it might have been about just yesterday. Yeah, standing in front of younger versions of yourself and they're all proud of you. Yeah, absolutely for sure, I'm proud of me, you know, and I want my kids to see it and I tell them my stories and they've lived, you know, through these stories with me and you know I hope that you know they won't make some of the same mistakes that I did and, you know, be better for what they've seen and heard of what I've been through.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love that. I love when you said I'm proud of me. So many people can't say that or they don't want to say that, and that is that is. To me, that's an indictment on a life well lived.
Speaker 3:Well, it's a hard thing, like there's a there's that balance between being proud of yourself and not being too overconfident, tacky, because you can. Everything can be taken away from you in a split second, you know. But what can't be taken away from me is all the hard work that I've done on myself and I am proud of that. It's been a long journey and it's been tough and it's been dark and lonely sometimes, but I think about all the time like I am the best I've ever been and I have more years ahead of me. How much better is it going to get?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's only going to get better. So I'm looking right now, if you scroll past the picture of the cow sitting on a couch on your Facebook. So, everyone, this is the post that Lynette put up yesterday, on Wednesday the 27th, I guess it was. It says imagine all of the past versions of yourself standing right in front of you. They are all smiling, looking back at you. They are all so proud of you. I love that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm stealing that.
Speaker 3:You can steal it, I stole it. You can steal it.
Speaker 2:There's no honor among thieves. We just keep stealing each other's content.
Speaker 3:That's good. We need to recycle it. It's all good stuff.
Speaker 2:It's right. Yeah, I'm not going to I'm going to give you kudos to it, I'll just I'll share it from your post. Okay, All right, Thank you. Thanks for that. Thanks, Lynette, Thanks, Brian. Children are growing. Summer. You know you've got a couple of adults, but you still have a 15 year old son, I believe he's 15. Yeah, yeah, your career is going well. Your businesses are doing well. What's next for you?
Speaker 3:Oh, more of the same. I just you know I love pouring into my kids. My middle daughter plays water polo for Michigan State. I love going and watching her play. My son plays soccer for Rockford. I love, I love that I just as much time with my kids as I possibly can.
Speaker 3:You know more business building, like I just my Michigan furnished rentals is the business that I just built over this past year and more of that. Like it's just more host acquisition and guest acquisition and setting more of those properties up. And you know it's all really around helping people like filling, filling that need and there was definitely a need in the Grand Rapids area for furnished month to month rentals and you know able for places to put my relocation clients that help with my houses. And you know people are like when are you going to retire? And I'm like I don't know if I ever really will officially retire because I can do real estate forever. And you know I'm putting these furnished rentals, I'm setting them up and putting those in place. And you know design is so fun, like I enjoy everything that I do so much and they all, all of those businesses work so well together. You know, no, two days are the same and I get to help amazing people and work with amazing people, and I just see more of the same in my future.
Speaker 2:I love it. I mean, it's so, it's invigorating and so wonderful to talk to somebody who has such a passion for his or her career and vocation. I think that this is I love it. It's good that we did this at 8.30 in the morning on a Thursday, because I have a busy day ahead of me before I go to see my children, so it's good to kind of get this energy going for it for me first thing in the morning. I'm going to, if it's okay with you, we'll include links to your businesses on the show notes of today's podcast. So if people anybody out there, please click on it. If you're looking for somebody in the design real estate industry, get on here and check out Lynette Stuff. You can. You're going to see that this is the person you want to work with out there.
Speaker 3:So Thanks yeah.
Speaker 2:We do have a lot of subscribers in Grand Rapids. It's one of our biggest cities for subscribers. Oh, wow, actually, yeah, and I don't know. I brought on a few people from Grand Rapids. That's probably what made a difference, so that has helped.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's great. Yeah, absolutely that's great. Yeah, it's such a great city to live in.
Speaker 2:It is You're definitely blessed for sure it's, it's, it's a, it's a small big city. It is everything you want, but it's compact, it's not sprawling like Detroit or Atlanta or I mean, where you just drive forever and you're still in the city.
Speaker 3:Right, right, it is and there's. I mean there's it's. It's small. I mean you people know people, everybody knows everybody. It's big, but it's small it is.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what the population is of this city itself is probably 200,000, but I think it's right around a million. If you kind of the greater Grand Rapids area, isn't it Right around a million, 8,900?
Speaker 3:I would say probably. I mean, that's nothing I've looked up recently, but I would. That's probably a pretty good guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's what I what I read. I love going there. I mean, you know I'm downstate a lot now but I I'm in Lansing most of the time and sometimes I shoot over to Detroit to meet with the client. But I love when I get to go over to Grand Rapids, even just for a day and drive around. It's so easy to get around compared to most cities. I mean, lansing is a much smaller city but it's so much harder to traverse around Lansing than it is Grand Rapids.
Speaker 3:It is You're. You are absolutely right. When I go to visit my daughter, I'm like, where am?
Speaker 2:I, I know I. I went to. I. I was only about 15 miles from Michigan State campus on Thursday, but I had to. I and I've been there so many times. I still had to get on my wave app and figure out how to get to the location that I knew exactly where I was going. I'd seen the building before, but I had. It's just so hard. There's so much construction going on in Lansing right now.
Speaker 3:All the time, all the time. Yes, I know there is and I'm right there with you. I have to put it in my Google Maps, no matter where I go there.
Speaker 2:You know it's interesting your daughter plays water polo. I have I've. I was with my friend Todd three weeks ago. I went over and spent the day at their house for the day and night to visit my. These are friends that I played rugby with in college and he and his wife and they're they're like family to me and he watches really obscure stuff on TV and we were up Saturday morning and I'm like why aren't we watching college game day? There's this football and he's up there watching water polo. And we were certainly, and I'm like so we were Googling like the rules, can you touch the bottom and this and that? And I'm like how the hell do they do that? He said I have no idea. He said that's got to be the most physically enduring sport there is.
Speaker 3:I'm like she is a beast when she is conditioning for water polo, and I mean I so I went to Mexico last year and I got out in the pool and I'm like I'm going to try water for a hot second and see how she does this. I'm like, okay, I'm done. Nope, nope, nope Because no, they. And she plays pretty much the entire game and you know proud mom moment. She was a starter as a freshman and they took three in the big 10, number three in the big 10. And so it's, she's amazing. But they are brutal. I mean they kick and they punch and they pinch and they scratch.
Speaker 3:I mean and they dunk and they it's, it's. It's crazy to watch how, how physical it is. But yeah, they, they tread water the entire time. I mean it's insane.
Speaker 2:I probably could never do it. No, I might be able to do a minute of treading. I don't even know if I could do that. I don't know.
Speaker 3:It's not it's not my thing yeah. I had. The next time I get in a pool.
Speaker 2:Well, I thought they were standing all the time on the in the water. I'm like that's not too hard. And he goes. No, they're treading water. I'm like what? And they? I kind of want to see what's going on underneath. Are they kicking each other? And they kind of it's a pretty brutal sport when you watch it.
Speaker 3:It is as a mom. I was like I'm in the skin. Get off her, you're drowning my kid and she had to have a talk and it's just like mom, you can't do that, that's what we all do. Like I do the same thing, like you can't, you can't worry about it. I'm like, okay, but they do this thing where they call egg beater up so that they can get themselves out of the water, up past their ways to either Try and score or try and block. It's incredible. It's incredible.
Speaker 2:Well, if I'm ever in East Lansing and there's a, there's a match or whatever you call a game or match, I would like to match. I'd like to go see it. I'd like to go see it. Absolutely yeah, let me know because I'm in the least land say quite a bit so Absolutely. Well, good for your kids. They are beautiful children. I'm looking at them right now on Facebook. They are incredibly good looking. I'm sure there is beautiful on the inside as they are on the outside.
Speaker 3:So I think they are. Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 2:So, as we begin to wrap up Lynette, is there any question that I did not ask that you wish I would have, or is there any Final message you want to leave with the bamboo pack audience?
Speaker 3:You know? No, I mean, I think we've touched on my mantras and I think you know we've touched on. Yeah, I think we've kind of covered everything. And I was thinking some of the questions that you asked me, I probably went off on a tangent, didn't even answer them. I have so much to say.
Speaker 3:You have a lot to say I just really feel blessed to be able to do something that I love every day and I wish that, you know, everybody could, and I just wish that for people, that they could get up and love what they do. And I mean because then you never feel like you're working and then you don't feel like you ever have to retire.
Speaker 2:Right, I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday from New Jersey as I was driving up from Lansing, and he said he always says this when we Talk, do what you love with the people you love. I mean what? Oh, that's so true. He's like that's all life is and that's that's living, that's when you work and that's when you retire. That if you can just do that, that's simplicity.
Speaker 3:Do what you love with the people you love, you can honestly create any kind of life that you want. I mean, trust me, I have. It's been long nights and up all nights and and blood, sweat and tears and money, but I have. I've created a life that I love and I think you just have to have the courage and Believe in yourself. You know to step out and do certain things, and that's probably what I hear the most from people is like I would never have the, the strength of the courage, or I'm too scared to do that. I'm like you just have to do it. There is no reward without risk.
Speaker 2:I Couldn't agree more. I you know you you've made my job difficult because normally when we're doing I'm doing a podcast, I circle what I think the title of the of the show will be and I have four things circled here. So now I have to do any mini, my new mode of pick up. You know it's interesting when we're done. When I downloaded into the system, ai now generates All the show notes and it generates the. It gives you a list of here's some really good titles and it pulls up some things that you repeated or profound, and Normally it's the things I circle because it's because there are things that really stick out. But sometimes I have to override it and say, no, this is the one. So I got four here. I think I've got it down to three that I think I'm gonna choose from. But if the AI has something better, I'm gonna put it on there. But you have some really good one liners and I can see your children probably rolling their eyes right now thinking, oh, my god, she says that all the time.
Speaker 3:Oh, well they do. But you know what, deep down, I think they appreciate, because they sure do come to their mama for everything.
Speaker 2:If they don't appreciate it now, they will in the future.
Speaker 3:But you're right, I do get a lot of I roles and you're annoying.
Speaker 2:It's funny, linnet, because I have the privilege of coaching a really good company that's actually in the state of Michigan and my daughter is one of the employees now. She got hired on almost two years ago and she's moving up slowly into some like management roles or, you know, having some more responsibilities. So they asked me if I would put her in my coaching program with the other some of the other people, and she said in mind, yeah, I might as well. My dad's been doing it for free all these years. For 30 some years she's been coaching me for free. So so many of the things that I talk about she does know, she's already heard me for. But she's.
Speaker 3:They're very blessed.
Speaker 2:Well, you know it's funny. I was just gonna say how blessed your children, your family, your clients and your friends are and now you got we got to bless the entire bamboo pack audience of around 62 countries with your optimism, in these great words of wisdom and everything that I, that we, every time when I, when I get feedback from from the audience, you know I always tell what I hear all the time is we like to hear the story of the guest, we like to hear great dialogue between you and the guest, brian, and we really like to get words of wisdom from the guest. You covered all three of those today, so I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Well, I like to talk. My mom would always say when I can talk behind, leg off of me also.
Speaker 2:Well, you're very, you're very, you're good. You're a good speaker as well. So I can tell it's all those years of in your profession of having to be on, I be a very good communicator it definitely has paid off.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 2:All right, we're gonna wrap up here, lynette, so I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. We'll talk a few minutes, so please don't hang up. We'll talk after we're done airing here, but I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for being such a Positive, optimistic and inspiring guest on the bamboo lab podcast.
Speaker 3:Oh, thank you for having me. It's been fun, I appreciate it was a complete pleasure.
Speaker 2:All right, everyone out there, I want to thank you all for tuning in this week. Please hit that subscribe button, please rate and review us. I want to hear what you have to say and please share us this episode with three people. The words that Lynette shared today were so inspiring and so positive and optimistic. There are people out in your people you love and care about, in your world, who need to hear her message. So, thank you all. Please remember everyone. Strive Love, live, love. You all take care.