Four Roses, Three Letters, One Pour

Ever stared at a Four Roses label and wondered what those letters actually taste like? We pulled on the baseball tees, poured a mystery single barrel at 100 proof, and put our palates to the test—no hints, just noses, notes, and a friendly wager. What started as happy hour turned into a crash course on mash bills, yeast strains, and how recipe codes like OBSF, OESO, and OESK map to real flavor in the glass.

We break the code in plain English. “B” or “E” tells you the corn and rye balance, the final letter reveals the yeast’s aromatic fingerprint, and together they shape everything from apple and cocoa to baking spice and mellow oak. As the glass opens, we talk through ethanol on the nose, how sweetness and spice trade places between sip two and three, and why color rarely gives away the profile. One taster locks on apple, another gets a bright rye lift, and the reveal proves how yeast and mash bill can be heard if you know where to listen.

Then comes the question every bourbon fan asks: is the $100 single barrel really better than the beloved Four Roses Small Batch you can actually find? We compare structure, finish, and versatility, and we’re honest about price-to-pleasure. Along the way, we share practical tips—how to taste smarter at home, why bar markups on staples like Sazerac Rye change the calculus, and which salty snacks dial up sweetness while taming heat. It’s whiskey nerdery without the pretense, wrapped in laughs and a clear takeaway you can use on your next store run.

If you love decoding labels, exploring mash bills and yeast strains, or just want a reliable guide to Four Roses single barrels, this pour is for you. Hit play, taste along, and tell us your pick. Enjoying the show? Tap follow, drop a review, and share this with a friend who thinks they can guess the code by nose alone.

Chapters

• 0:00 Happy Hour Opens
• 2:20 Sazerac Talk And Bar Pricing
• 4:13 Weather, News Tangents, And Rye vs Cocktail
• 5:21 Four Roses Focus Announced
• 9:17 Why Small Batch Is A Daily Sipper
• 12:40 Rum In Sazerac Barrels Experiment
• 15:28 Four Roses Codes Explained
• 20:20 The Three Single Barrel Picks
• 23:14 Fresh Crack And First Impressions
• 26:55 The Big Reveal: OBSF Wins
• 30:45 Is It Worth The Price?
• 33:32 Studio Happenings And Free Podcast Day
• 36:20 Baseball Detour And Purist Rants

Transcript

Jamie Flanagan: 0:00

I should probably hit the themes to other stuff that's part of the picket.

Theme Song: 0:22

We're gonna drink a fine whiskey.

Jamie Flanagan: 0:30

It is time for happy hour. It is the man cave happy hour. Whiskey, cigars, spirits, the stories that go along with it. That over there is Jamie Flanning. Wow, he dove right into that. I know. There's August Gitchlag. Sexy Matt Fox is right next to me here.

August Gitschlag: 0:45

To my right in his old spot. It's where he's supposed to be. Right, right. A glad of facts.

Jamie Flanagan: 0:50

In a comfy rocking chair. Pull it up the fire. All of a sudden I'm a friendly giant. Uh, we're gonna be talking four roses just a little bit. But before we get to the four roses, how the hell are you guys?

Matt Fox: 1:04

Oh, God, it's been a hot second since uh we've sat down for a uh conversation and a cocktail.

August Gitschlag: 1:09

Oh, like a holiday. It's a holiday week. Fake holidays and real holidays. I think didn't we just miss uh sweet ass day or something? Wasn't that last week? I think we missed that one. I didn't get you a card. I'm sorry. I do love you.

Matt Fox: 1:22

Actually, I was well, I was walking through I was walking through a bakery and I thought of you guys because I'm like that ass doe.

August Gitschlag: 1:28

Yeah, boy. How long have you been sitting on that one? For a while.

Jamie Flanagan: 1:34

Oh, mercy's sakes. For a while.

August Gitschlag: 1:37

That is yikes.

Jamie Flanagan: 1:39

That is pretty bad stuff. Yes, you're welcome. See, that's why you missed it.

August Gitschlag: 1:43

Oh, you do notice. What's that? We're wearing kind of like matching us. Oh, yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 1:48

Yeah, it's uh we got our uh Warriors Escape from New York t-shirts uh or the baseball gang.

Matt Fox: 1:55

No, this is the this is like the best version of bad news bears, Falcon. Okay, bad news bears.

Jamie Flanagan: 1:59

We got our bad news bears Man Cave Happy Hour Edition. Um, I I made them brown, so they'd be kind of like barrel, barrelish, kind of brownish. Are they brown?

August Gitschlag: 2:06

Brownish, they're just cooking yellow, black and yellow.

Jamie Flanagan: 2:09

Coco, cocoa.

August Gitschlag: 2:12

So as Catherine said, it looks like my uniform. Black and yellow. Yeah, but I I I also themed it out for the holiday, though. You did it is it is Halloween week. I did not bring any candy, but I brought steak bites. There's uh yeah, that would they tasted like it was like snacks. It was like candy, they were delightful meat snacks.

Jamie Flanagan: 2:30

So, in honor of like our baseball, I was doing the uh Sazerac for my welcome cocktail. Well, that's the favorite.

Speaker 4: 2:36

Uh, what's his name? Uh Brockmeyer. Brock Brockmeyer.

Jamie Flanagan: 2:39

Yeah, we've never you can taste the jazz. I was waiting, I was waiting to do like Sazerac until we could get matching Brockmeyer jackets, and I just cannot find it. I have one. I have one. I got a good platoglue jacket. I can't find the proper Brockmeyer jacket to do the says so.

August Gitschlag: 2:56

I've been he hit that ball can't bury it in a Jewish cemetery because it's tattooed.

Jamie Flanagan: 3:03

Right? So yeah, it's uh but I've been enjoying the Sazerac for I just that's a nice little rye.

August Gitschlag: 3:09

It's the right, it's the right price at the store. I'm finding it's incredibly overpriced at bars. Oh they jacket like it's a great $38.5 bottle.

Jamie Flanagan: 3:18

$29.95.

August Gitschlag: 3:19

Well, I know why I thought that because I just got the barrel pick from uh Wine Garden I got theirs, which is a different flavor. I mean, I should have thought to bring it in to compare to that one. Oh, we could. That might be fun to do, yeah. Yeah, for it's we can't we gotta wear the jackets though. That's every time we we do a barrel pick, I feel like we have to have the base there. Otherwise, why are people why are people buying these, right? Exactly. If it's not better, and it it every time I haven't found one yet that wasn't better. I say that I expect them to be different. I have enjoyed every barrel pick, but then again, that when A and B guys are in here, they just inundated us with a whole bunch of barrel picks. We had no idea what the other stuff tasted like. We delivered it all. Yeah, and we all had to take a half day the next day. We all basically took a knee that night.

Matt Fox: 4:01

Yeah, honestly, you're not wrong.

August Gitschlag: 4:02

And then you doubled up and had those guys stick around and drink more for the uh hit now.

Matt Fox: 4:06

Yeah, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Nope. I don't remember that. I'm blocking it out, they're blacking it out.

Jamie Flanagan: 4:13

So lots of crazy weather all over the world. Well, yeah, except for here, it's like where it's lovely, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Perfect hoodie weather finally. Jamaica, prayers for everybody in Jamaica.

August Gitschlag: 4:24

They're gonna get womped on. What's the highest uh wind gust ever recorded just now with 241 miles an hour? That's insane.

Jamie Flanagan: 4:30

That's nice. Argentina's uh Argentina's pretty cold. It's bordering Chile.

August Gitschlag: 4:38

How did that how did that make it here? Apparently, uh the Venezuelan segue out of death. Apparently, the Venezuelans do a dad just Venezuela. Apparently, caught one of our CIA teams on the ground. Oh, called uh uh clear and present danger, like the one with uh yeah, go send uh get off my plane.

Matt Fox: 4:57

Oh, wrong movie.

August Gitschlag: 4:58

Wrong movie. Oh, they're spies, but not spies like us. They cut our comms off. What? Oh, they're spies, and they accused Trinidad and Tobago of being uh our spy center and and that they're being in cahoots. Oh my goodness, yeah. I thought you were going d dun dun dun dun dun dun.

Jamie Flanagan: 5:19

All right. But uh we're we're drinking some uh four roses tonight. Matt, you love the four roses.

Matt Fox: 5:27

The four roses small batch is my my daily. It's uh yeah, I will always probably go to a pro rank. I wish it could be a pro, but it's something I always have uh on the counter on the shelf, you know, in my home. Um, I always enjoy the four roses small batch. Yeah, I do too.

August Gitschlag: 5:44

It's a great product for the price. Um, I wanted the $17.92 are like the best.

Jamie Flanagan: 5:50

I like the Four Roses line. I do, yeah. And it you know, again, it's like the the wild turkeys um up and down the line. I like them.

August Gitschlag: 5:58

Um I can't find them anymore.

Jamie Flanagan: 6:01

The the ones I like. My wild turkeys are off the shelf. The Buffalo Traces up and down the uh up and down the dial are good too, but you can't find any of those. Like now you can finally find the Sagara Sazerac, but you know, I was actually rare is still hard to get.

Matt Fox: 6:14

I'm I'm so married to the Four Roses when I went out west. Well, I went to New Mexico on a ski trip uh one winter because everyone goes to the desert to ski. Well, yeah, but we were up in the mountains, so there was snow.

August Gitschlag: 6:24

There was snow with the aliens at area.

Matt Fox: 6:26

And this was in March of 2020, and I'm so married to the four roses, it was right when COVID was rear rearing its ugly head. And I bought a bottle of four roses, not the small batch, just the regular four roses, and I was gonna use that drink on it all week long because we're gonna be there for the entire week. I got there on Saturday.

August Gitschlag: 6:46

You got into that bottle, didn't you?

Matt Fox: 6:48

We were informed on Sunday that we were going home on Monday because of COVID. So shit out of that bottle all day Sunday, all day, Sunday, and Sunday night when we had a potluck because everyone had bought food for the entire week. We had to eat it.

August Gitschlag: 7:02

I mean, I just joke about wild turkey, whatever, and how I like it. And buddy of mine goes, you know, we always make fun of you because I drink wild turkey as my my shot of choice at feather blowing. And whether we had a good round or a bad round, I reward myself or punish myself for the wild turkey. And one of the guys goes, You know, Ug, I we always tease you for the wild turkey. He goes, Yeah, I picked up a bottle the other day. I saw a bottle, I picked it up. I'm like, why not? At the price point, it was like it was at the counter, you know, and I'll be damned if I didn't get into it and it didn't uh didn't last a weekend. I'll be damned a weekend because you don't feel guilty.

Jamie Flanagan: 7:36

Well, I'd be a mother sending it to an early grave because uh you didn't spend that much on it.

August Gitschlag: 7:42

And and this, which I'm sipping on now, yeah, um, is the Myers rum aged in the Sazerac barrels.

Matt Fox: 7:48

Oh, that's M Y E R S, not M-E-I-J-E-R.

August Gitschlag: 7:52

Right. Not the family that owns the big box store. I'm just busting your balls. That's all. I know. Well, they're here to be busted. All right. Consider them busted. So the Myers, a very unique taste. I put a little agave syrup in there um to sweeten it up like the to sort of old-fashioned it. Uh-huh. Because uh, yeah, the Myers rum in the Sazerac barrels are nice. So I like my Sazerac. Yes, you do. And as a Sazerac, it's a cocktail Sazerac, which is made differently than just a plain Sazerac. It's a Sazerac.

Matt Fox: 8:22

So is it a Sazerac? Yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 8:26

That's the thing with the Sazerac rye. It gets confused. I want a Sazerac. Oh, yeah. Well, what do you want in that? Well, but it could be the Sazerac cocktail, which is a different says a different piece. That gets a little confusing. For some.

August Gitschlag: 8:39

Yes, it does.

Jamie Flanagan: 8:40

Who's who's on first? Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam. Something with just a little spam in it. Sorry.

August Gitschlag: 8:47

Um we've gone down a money python rabbit hole here before. So now, yeah, so parrot's dead.

Jamie Flanagan: 8:54

That weird is no mall. It has ceased to be.

unknown: 9:03

Pully pulley, bully, bully.

Theme Song: 9:05

That rabbit's gonna streak a mile away.

Matt Fox: 9:09

I need a book it.

August Gitschlag: 9:10

All right, so but uh four roses. Four roses. So yes, you've you've used uh painter's tape to to hide the version this is.

Jamie Flanagan: 9:17

Yes, so there's uh they have a single barrel, right? And they've had a single barrel. Yes, and then they came out with uh three more unique, so there's a total of four single barrels. Uh uh mash bills and expressions. Uh each. Okay, I get it. I know what you're saying. Yes. And then so, but there's uh, so you guys grab a piece of paper, Matt. I got a pen, you got a pen, share some paper over there. Uh you got some learning to do. There's just sticky note. There's your sticky note. You got some learning to do. All right. Well, you don't have to write this down yet, but when we get into it, so there's four letters, right? There's uh, what do we got here? We'll got uh can I get another piece of the OBSF I broke my sleep OESO and the uh OES K. But you don't have to write that. OESO. I gotta write it down. I'll do it, I'll give it a little bit. We'll get it later. We'll get it later. So each expression has a has a different set of letters, right? And so they they stand for something. And I have a tab here open that tells us what they stand for. So the letters um stand for the O stands for the old apprentice distillery. Um and then the second letter uh for the specific mash bill, the B or the E will stand for the specific mash bill. Uh, and then the S is for the straight bourbon whiskey. Uh so the first and the third letter uh will always be the same, right? So there's always an O, there's always an S. Uh, and then the other two change depending on what strain you have.

Matt Fox: 10:52

Oh, for goodness sake.

Jamie Flanagan: 10:53

Um strain I was as if it's a version of COVID.

Matt Fox: 10:56

I was under the understanding there would be no math.

Jamie Flanagan: 10:58

But no, actually, because the last one there's there's there's V, K, O, Q, or F. Uh, and those are the different yeast strains. So it is it is a different, it is really a different strain.

August Gitschlag: 11:08

That's beer nerd level stuff now. So it's stuff that Malsa would be involved in.

Jamie Flanagan: 11:12

It is, it is so the uh the yeast you use in your honey, right?

Matt Fox: 11:16

The B, which is the mash bill, right?

Jamie Flanagan: 11:18

The the B the B or the E, right? Yeah, the B or the E are both the mash bill. The B is 60 corn, 30 you know, 35 rye, and 5% multidirlate. Uh so Matt's like you don't really have to write that down. I was just I'm just sharing well.

Matt Fox: 11:33

I got if we're gonna be taste testing this, I gotta know what I'm talking about.

Jamie Flanagan: 11:36

All right, the E is 75% corn, 20% rye, and 5% multiviolet. So there you go. So that's that's the difference between the B and the E. All right. So uh it's it's a deep dive in all of it. So that's what the letters stand for, right? So it's it's the mash bill and the yeast strain. So it signifies what the mash bill and the yeast strain is. That's fair. And then they're all from the old prentice distillery, and they're all straight bourbon whiskies. So there you go. So there's there's the there's the three. So I have one of them because they they run about a hundred bucks.

August Gitschlag: 12:08

Uh MSRP is close to uh $100 for the booze and a baseball jersey today. Wow, it's like Halloween.

Jamie Flanagan: 12:15

We got candy and gifts. I don't know. I was like, I had this on. I hadn't shown Colleen and I had it on, and I didn't think she saw it, and I had my coat on already, and she walks up and she was leaving too, and then she stops, she turns around, she comes back, she opens my coat, and then she just like she didn't say anything. She just opens my coat, looked at it. Of course, she had no pants on, looked at yeah, looked at me, and then just shut my coat vigorously and rolled her eyes and said, Okay, well, I'm going and what she told me, whatever she was doing. And so I'm like, That's just disdain. Was she not gonna say online what we were doing anyway?

August Gitschlag: 12:52

Uh no, she didn't watch, and that's no, she'll watch the one time you don't want her to. I know, I know, I know. We've been down that avenue, yes. We have in the whiskey bourbon based. The women in my life always watch my bourbon. My mom watches and she sends me messages. Don't swear, August Kitchlag, and uh Catherine watches, and I'll I'll get home some evenings and Holly like so.

Matt Fox: 13:12

X, Y, and Z.

August Gitschlag: 13:13

I'm like, oh, you listen even this is the time you listen. Uh huh. This is the only one. This is the time. All right. Look, woman, I'm podcasting.

Speaker 4: 13:23

So it's mom Monday. Stay out of my Monday. Okay, August. Lady. Keep going. I I invite Catherine here every time she's coming.

Jamie Flanagan: 13:35

I tried to get I've invited my podcast. So these are uh these coming in 100-proof. Oh, we're coming in hot.

Matt Fox: 13:40

So it was a single, it's a single barrel, right? So it's a hundred-proof, but it's not bottled in bond, right?

Jamie Flanagan: 13:45

No, it's not uh, they don't call it bottled and bond.

August Gitschlag: 13:48

Yesterday I was gonna have an old-fashioned at the painted lady with some friends, yeah, and I went for the 1792, and they go, Well, all we have is the bottled and bond and the barrel proof. I'm like, Nope. Give me makers 46. There you go. Go that way instead. There you go. French oak, baby. But it's a bet I just didn't want the heat and the proof. Sometimes you don't.

Matt Fox: 14:05

No, no, you gotta sometimes you don't.

Jamie Flanagan: 14:07

You're like, I'm gonna have you know more than one.

August Gitschlag: 14:08

I want to be able to have more than one. Yeah, I just wanted to have one, but I was at the you know, bounce from Susie's to the lady, I gotta go home and cook, you know, like that stuff like that. So, yeah, I wasn't in it for the uh wasn't trying to get the business done. I gotta slow down, man.

Speaker 4: 14:20

Give me an eight ball.

August Gitschlag: 14:21

I gotta slow down.

Jamie Flanagan: 14:23

Yeah.

August Gitschlag: 14:24

So uh I don't even know what that means. I'm not good man. Good, good, innocent dude. All right, so I'm what I'm gonna do because I have I didn't DJ, I wasn't in the world of cocaine and hand jobs.

Matt Fox: 14:36

Neither was it for a DJ. Neither was I. I just pretended.

Jamie Flanagan: 14:41

So I have uh I have one of the three expressions. Sorry, guys. Yes, you have one of these three. I have one of the three expressions. Then we gotta call it B. I'm going to I'm going to uh give you the the letters and then read the description. And then we're gonna try this and try you guys gonna try to figure out which of the three expressions it is.

August Gitschlag: 15:04

Well, I can tell you right now, it's got an incredible amount of color to it.

Jamie Flanagan: 15:06

It's very red. Very red. It's very red. They were all they were all pretty colorful. Oh pretty colorful. Yeah, it's very red. So uh if you now you can write this down. Okay. The O E S O. Got it. O E S S O.

Matt Fox: 15:23

And that's an acronym for the I'm just kidding.

Jamie Flanagan: 15:26

I'll go back, I'll read it again. I'm just kidding. You told us not to write it down the first time. So but that's give me tasting notes on OES. So that's gonna have the 75% corn in it. That's the one with the 75% corn. 20% corn.

August Gitschlag: 15:44

So, what's the tasting notes on that? What are we supposed to be looking for?

Jamie Flanagan: 15:46

So, this is rich in red fruits and brings vibrant sweetness. This is according to the Four Roses Bourbon website themselves, and sweetness.

Matt Fox: 15:56

Vibrant sweetness, vibrant, my name. Vibrant sweetness?

August Gitschlag: 16:01

Yeah, on the on the quartz.

Jamie Flanagan: 16:04

Delicate, delicate oak, delicate oak. Says it has delicate oak and smooth vanilla, right? A hint of brown sugar, and a nice lasting finish. Sticks on your face. All right. So that is how they describe it. Okay, so O E S O. O E S. Oh, the next one is the OB, the O B, the O G the O B G Y M. The O E S F. O B.

August Gitschlag: 16:32

The OB OBS. This one spreads your taste buds open. Yeah. And explores you. Oh my god. So this is notes of saddle leather and stirrups.

Jamie Flanagan: 16:48

That's great. All right.

Matt Fox: 16:50

So the OBSF it's right on the tip of my tongue.

Jamie Flanagan: 16:53

Yeah, so the the B, this one, this is the one that coming in at 60% corn instead of 75. Uh OBSF. Uh lush notes of apple, vanilla, and coca. Coca. Coca. Coca.

Matt Fox: 17:08

Her name was Coca.

Jamie Flanagan: 17:10

Uh, again, this is all according to our four roses. Is it coca? Is it cocoa? C-O-C-O-A. Cocoa. Yeah, okay. I'm aware. Got it. Uh so B-A-S-F. Luxurious richness on this one. A bright touch of rye and a hint of brown sugar. They both have brown sugar then, so all right. I just put B S. What's our third? Did they say both brown? They didn't say brown sugar. Yeah, you said brown sugar. Oh, I did some brown sugar enhances. After you said uh I did, I did.

Matt Fox: 17:43

Smooth vanilla with a hint of brown sugar was the same.

Jamie Flanagan: 17:46

All right, yeah. Number three. O E-S-K. Um, the four roses. The Osaka. So the E again, we're back to the 75% corn on this one. Uh baking spices. Oh, okay. Introduce a gentle heat complimented by mellow oak and tiny earthly tea leaves.

Matt Fox: 18:10

Earthy tea leaves.

Jamie Flanagan: 18:12

Tea leaves. Rich caramel rounds it out. All right.

August Gitschlag: 18:19

So that one of those three is what we're about to put in our body.

Jamie Flanagan: 18:23

And that is, yeah, so there you go.

Matt Fox: 18:25

So we have to decide which one of these is in that bottle. Yes.

August Gitschlag: 18:29

So here's the final. I'm up to the Pepsi challenge. There it is.

Matt Fox: 18:34

Fresh crack. I don't think that was the pop of the bottle.

August Gitschlag: 18:38

No. That was the pop of my purpose.

unknown: 18:40

Okay.

Matt Fox: 18:41

And we gotta go neat.

August Gitschlag: 18:42

Oh yeah, neat. If you want more, you're gonna have more. Oh, thanks, Dad.

Matt Fox: 18:50

Okay.

Jamie Flanagan: 18:52

Is that enough for now? Yeah. That's enough for now. That's a lot of color there.

Matt Fox: 18:57

I'm gonna put it in the light.

Jamie Flanagan: 18:59

And here's the thing. I almost forget which one's in here. I'm like a goldfish. I already know. Five minutes later. I got it. All right. Hang on, hang on. All right. So that's a nice color.

Matt Fox: 19:09

That's a little ethanol on the nose, but it's I gotta get used to it first.

Jamie Flanagan: 19:13

It's just we just open it up. Let it breathe, man. Jesus. These are all I am breathing. These are all seven to nine years. Uh they're all have a seven to nine year age statement on them.

Matt Fox: 19:25

And they're all 100-proof. Is the OBSF age longer than the OESO?

Jamie Flanagan: 19:29

No, they're all three of them are labeled seven to nine years. Okay. So it's a crapshoot. Yeah.

August Gitschlag: 19:40

All right. My palate is cleansed.

Matt Fox: 19:44

Oh, you you got some chips in you, did you? Okay.

August Gitschlag: 19:46

Ruffles for the wind.

Jamie Flanagan: 19:49

See, I know, and I've just read these, and so I know what I'm looking for.

August Gitschlag: 19:52

Yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 19:54

So I'm I I was pretty sure now I know I know.

August Gitschlag: 19:57

Yep, I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I got this.

Jamie Flanagan: 19:59

And I'm not even good at this shit.

Matt Fox: 20:01

I haven't tried it yet. So knowing what you know based on the color, is it rep is it does it stand true to the color? You said you said that all the colors are the same.

August Gitschlag: 20:12

Yeah, well in the in the store, they're all very comparable. Yeah, so the rich fruits isn't necessarily a giveaway by the color. No, yeah, no, no. No, I I think I got it.

Jamie Flanagan: 20:20

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Um, oh, that was not a happy face there, Matt. No, no, I I okay. I did Philly. Did I do that, Philly? I did the all right. You're doing it, sucking it down on the mic. I missed the last one. I missed her. It was fun. It was fun. Yeah, she's always Vino is always uh right.

August Gitschlag: 20:43

She had that $300 wine recorking contraption. It looked like you could do eye surgery with it. Small tiny needle thing. I think Atagorn gas.

Jamie Flanagan: 20:53

Atagorn. All right. So um one does not walk into Mordor. Oh, go on. So, all right, let's see. Can we make this interesting?

Matt Fox: 21:03

I think I know I think I know which one it is. Yeah, me too. I think right away. I think I got it.

Jamie Flanagan: 21:07

I think it's all pretty much a different one. Uh, yeah, right. Well, I but I know, so I know, and I I I I I'm feeling it.

Matt Fox: 21:14

I will go out on a limb myself. I will be the first.

Jamie Flanagan: 21:17

Matt, um, writing it down. August, which one do you think it is? Okay, all right, Matt, what do you think it is?

Matt Fox: 21:26

I circled it. It's down the right-hand corner there.

Jamie Flanagan: 21:28

All right, you guys have picked something different. Yeah, you guys picked something different, and only one of you is correct. Uh oh. Wouldn't it be great if you were both wrong?

August Gitschlag: 21:37

So one of us has to stand up without pants on if we lose.

Speaker 4: 21:40

On camera. For the ladies.

Matt Fox: 21:42

On camera.

Jamie Flanagan: 21:44

One for the ladies.

Matt Fox: 21:46

Free speech, not that free.

Jamie Flanagan: 21:48

All right. So, Matt, what did you pick and why did you pick it?

Matt Fox: 21:51

I picked the O E S K. Oh, yes, K. Because the last one. It felt very corn forward. Okay. And there was the fuck you feel corn forward. Because I've had Are you a Somalier of No, because I've been about because I've drank Joe Lewis Bourbon. Yeah, we drank that Joe Lewis. I had a real muscle memory.

Jamie Flanagan: 22:17

Very much so. On the third sip, this is uh yeah, there's something happening on the third sip. All right, go ahead.

Matt Fox: 22:22

Anyway, yeah, OESK because of the uh it had a really corn forward feel to it, yeah, and I really felt the baking spices that you had mentioned. Okay, and I really wasn't feeling tea leaves, but it's just the spices hit me right off the bat.

Jamie Flanagan: 22:36

All right, all right. I guess what did you which one did you pick? The OBSF.

August Gitschlag: 22:42

Because the apple went right up my nose the minute I stuck my. Oh, you got apple out of it straight away, okay, okay. Right away. And then it's it's I drink a lot of rye, and I got the rye heat in the back. As I was talking about drinking the spiciness of a rye, and it had it said it had the rye back to it, was mentioned specifically. So uh that's kind of where I went.

Jamie Flanagan: 23:01

August is our winner.

Matt Fox: 23:03

I'm taking my pants off right now. That's right.

unknown: 23:06

Woo!

Jamie Flanagan: 23:07

All right, so yes, I I when I tasted it and I was like, I sipped it, and I was like, oh, wait a second, I went back to the thing. I was like, I thought I felt the rye. Yeah.

August Gitschlag: 23:20

More so than the fruits or any baking spices. It was definitely an apple that I got.

Jamie Flanagan: 23:25

I did because I like I covered up, I covered up because it's big on the neck, and then I was like, oh, cool, that's it. And then I noticed it was really big on the back of the bottle, so I covered that up too.

Matt Fox: 23:34

Um, but yes, I had a 33% chance of getting it right.

Jamie Flanagan: 23:37

You did. Everybody had a 33% chance.

August Gitschlag: 23:40

Uh oh, you didn't use painter's tape. You're taking all the good all the labels off, aren't you? Oops. No, I didn't.

Jamie Flanagan: 23:44

I put I put I put oh safety tape on.

August Gitschlag: 23:47

Okay.

Jamie Flanagan: 23:47

All right. And it, but this is uh good DJ gaffer tape. It is gaffer tape.

Matt Fox: 23:52

Of course it is.

Jamie Flanagan: 23:54

So there you go. The OB OBSF.

Matt Fox: 23:56

Well done, August. Thank you.

Jamie Flanagan: 23:58

Well, well done. Look at you. You're and you're the one that's like, I got it. Who's the small year now?

Speaker 1: 24:02

Corn forward.

August Gitschlag: 24:05

Mr. Small Ye over there. Well, when you tell me what I'm what I'm gonna taste, I can tell you that I tasted it. And I haven't been sitting. I was eating steak bites, I got a good base. Yeah, you know, we're not sitting here like doing our welcome cocktails and pounding drinks. Right, right. Had one little you know, sucker here, yeah. And then I cleaned my nose and cleaned the palate, and uh yeah, I got the I immediately got the apple and the I didn't get the apple until the cocoa and the rye heat in the back.

Jamie Flanagan: 24:31

So my second taste, and then my third taste, I was like, it was like this is nice though.

August Gitschlag: 24:36

No, it is no, it's great. I'm sure they're all three are gonna be cool in their own way. Yeah, yeah.

Matt Fox: 24:40

Um, I would actually I would visit this every once in a while. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 24:44

I'm glad it's on my shelf. I'm very I'm happy that I'm gonna be.

August Gitschlag: 24:47

I'm glad it's on your shelf and I can drink it there.

Jamie Flanagan: 24:50

Absolutely, as long as those damn other podcasts in here don't wheeze the juice. Start zip tying that door shut. I'm telling you, man. Yeah, they got after the basil Hayden. They hit the dark ride pretty hard, didn't they? They got my dark basil Hayden fell last week.

August Gitschlag: 25:07

It was like can't believe you left that door open during free podcast day.

Jamie Flanagan: 25:11

Yeah, right. It was more like open bar at Saltfield Day.

Matt Fox: 25:14

How did Free Podcast Day go, James?

Jamie Flanagan: 25:16

It did. We're at the podcast Your Voice Studios in uh beautiful podcast your voice studios of the policies, and uh so yeah, I invited folks in to do that. It was cool. We had like three or four people that uh had never been here before pop in and say hey, and the people that had been here before popped in and said hey, and so it was cool, yeah. It was cool. Uh it's uh uh shoot temptations, Ruffin. Yeah, one of the family members. Yes, yeah, Ruffin Jr. was here. His son was here. Uh DRJ. Yeah.

unknown: 25:49

Yes.

Jamie Flanagan: 25:51

So that was neat. Um okay. So but that was good. Yeah, so we were like opened it up, you know. It's like crack. First one's free. Get him in here. Get him in here.

Matt Fox: 26:00

Did you have a did you have an event that night as well?

Jamie Flanagan: 26:02

Did you DJ an event that night too? Speaking of crack, probably, yeah.

August Gitschlag: 26:08

We uh my uh my good friends have finally opened up their place in Gross well, Gross Point, Detroit border, the old uh Lost River. Oh yeah, yes, you had mentioned that the 1880s techno bar. They uh they're trying to have they they claim to have, and this is what you guys want the perfect pour of Guinness.

Matt Fox: 26:26

Oh, okay, really jam. Yeah, it's better than corporate Buffalo Wild Wings. Well, that's what they're trying to do.

August Gitschlag: 26:33

All right, so we'll see. We'll see. I don't know how much longer they're they're they're just getting their shit together. They're soft open after soft open. There, we went in there on Wednesday last week, yeah. And every bar still is filled, sure, but you know, no TVs on, they only turn TVs on for soccer, right? Right. You know, the English bar. Bless you, English pub, but no fish and chips with lots of oysters. Okay, yeah, they have tables now, it's coming along. All right, so we're gonna go we'll visit them when they think that they're ready to have us for their next channel. But they they have a patio there. This is such a small place that like filling in a spot there can be like kind of jams you in there.

Matt Fox: 27:09

I know now's the perfect time to get there before it gets really cold.

August Gitschlag: 27:12

Yeah, you can still go outside on the patio. But but inside's where you want to be because it's so eclectic. The decorations are great. So those are on the on my agenda for the future of our of our podcast with these outfits. Yeah, and then we got uh we gotta have we have the yellow pants with the black stripe that goes with it, like like the Savannah Banana style. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4: 27:30

What are they the savannah bananas are coming into town?

August Gitschlag: 27:33

No, they're not, they're sending the other clowns, the party animals and the firefighters.

Speaker 4: 27:37

And I hate that I know that because I hate the Savannah bananas. I hate them.

August Gitschlag: 27:40

Hate them. How do you think that's what we do what's wrong with Ball today? Yeah, I just I won't even go to Jimmy John Field. I think that that's that the more appropriate spot for them. Yeah, that's where they should be. Where are they playing? Comerica. But it's not the Savannah banana, it's like the other two teams in the league. The other banana, it's the other banana ball. Banana ball, you know. You have to have X amount of trick plays per inning.

Matt Fox: 28:02

It's yeah, where they got guys on uh on like high-rise stirrups, tilts, and balls.

August Gitschlag: 28:07

They gotta smack, they go to catch the ball, they gotta catch it in their shirts, and it's just or they do a flip in the catch. I can't stand it. Yeah, bastardizing it. I know I get it, it's the Harlem Globe Trotters of baseball.

Matt Fox: 28:17

Bayern.

August Gitschlag: 28:18

Well, no, that's uh San Francisco. That's there. Purer than that. I don't know. It just drives me nuts.

Matt Fox: 28:24

You're a purist, August. Just admit it. I am admitted.

Jamie Flanagan: 28:28

It's bastardizing the whole it's for a bunch of little kids.

Matt Fox: 28:32

But that's why you have folks like Otani that can fucking hit a home run three times in one freaking game. After striking out six people, no, or striking out ten and six innings. Was it ten and six innings?

August Gitschlag: 28:44

Yeah, let's still get up there and swing it. Yeah, the man is just in the great postseason except for that one game, which is considered the greatest game in baseball history. Yeah, really. Okay, he pitched, he struck out ten, pitched six innings, struck out ten, and hit three home runs, three home runs. Three home runs. One of them is still flying out of Chavez ravine.

Matt Fox: 29:02

Yeah, he hit it out of Dodger Stadium, it's still in the air. I believe it. I believe it. Wow, but Mac Scherzer tonight, yeah, him pitching. Yeah, this will be a wasn't he ours? Yes, he was. He this is an historic event in MLB history because he's uh only the third pitcher to pitch for three different teams in a world series.

August Gitschlag: 29:22

Uh and I think all three of those teams are still paying him. I do think Texas uh is still paying him. I think uh where was he last year? Uh did he pitch for us in a world series? Uh yeah, yeah, okay. Absolutely he did.

Matt Fox: 29:34

What that was because we had the world series that was 2006.

August Gitschlag: 29:37

When when the fat panda from San Francisco single handedly beat us himself, yeah, that guy. Fucking fat panda. Dude, the Giants didn't have to be. Was that the last time we were in the series? Yeah. No, no, then it was the Cardinals that beat us up, too. Yeah, um, I can't remember which one was first now. They kind of blur together. Anyways, the San Francisco Giants did something unprecedented today uh this week. They hired the a new manager from college. What? The hair of the university. University of Tennessee's manager. Unheard of to hire in baseball. Unheard of to hire a college manager in the pros.

Matt Fox: 30:08

Just like right off right off the bench. Just right into the pros.

August Gitschlag: 30:11

Yep. I mean, Tennessee has a great program. They've been historically great. He's uh he's got a culture there. People rave about him. He wasn't the batting coach, he wasn't the first base coach, he just went to head coach from manager of Tennessee to manager of the Twitter. Holy snakes, that's a bold move. Very because I mean these guys, he's got to deal with people like Raphael Devers, who's kind of like an egotistical prick and makes 10 times more money than him.

Speaker 4: 30:31

Right.

August Gitschlag: 30:31

You know, college ball, you're the boss. These are a bunch of kids, you know. It's different. So we'll see. I'm I'm I'm rooting for him. Hope it works out. That's okay. Bring it more than you expected in the baseball podcast tonight with our baseball jerseys.

Jamie Flanagan: 30:46

Yeah, I broke out.

August Gitschlag: 30:47

I broke out the baseball. You broke out the baseball talk. It's like, oh, okay. I just thought it looked cool. Or is my fifth grade? Was I fifth grade when I said my little my little TV show or radio show called Baseball Beat? I recorded it and I still had the tape.

Matt Fox: 30:59

I playing right.

August Gitschlag: 31:01

Let's go through some stats. This is Johnny Bench's game yesterday, and I started reading stats off of out of the out of the box scores of the free press. Oh my god, that's fantastic. It's my little sports show when I was in fifth grade. Did you play T ball too? I did play T ball.

Matt Fox: 31:12

Me too. Yeah. My father was my father was a coach.

Jamie Flanagan: 31:15

So was mine. And then he played the cassette and held it up against the window, playing it out to the baseball beat.

August Gitschlag: 31:20

Baseball beat. With the one speaker. Yeah. Yeah. We can try to listen to baseball beat. You can hear just how my the evolution of my professional voice. Squeaky little, you know, beep 42-pound August.

Matt Fox: 31:36

Hello, my name is August. Hello, my name is August Kitchlag.

August Gitschlag: 31:41

I mean, the the dump I took today weighed more than I did today.

Matt Fox: 31:45

I was just like, so you're saying you've you've grown up as I've got to be. I've grown up, yes. Grown up, up and down. Hey Jamie, you want to throw me a little more nip in there?

Jamie Flanagan: 31:53

So this one, this on the bottle, it says there's uh uh delicate rye, which is what I got first, apple, mint, clove, and cocoa.

August Gitschlag: 32:03

Definitely clove. Now, is this I didn't get the corn, but that was probably did you pick this one based on the on the profile, or did you just grab one and said and go?

Jamie Flanagan: 32:11

Uh yeah, I picked it because this is the one that had the uh medium amount of corn, and so that's why I went with that. You want the 60% corn?

August Gitschlag: 32:20

Oh, you too are a corn nerd.

Jamie Flanagan: 32:22

I I went a little lower on the corn, and that it was uh there was something that attracted to me in the uh in the world.

August Gitschlag: 32:28

See, I thought the corn on this was so yeah, I did. I did pick it on purpose. 100 proof is not what I'm want tonight, but yeah, I'm gonna have them.

Jamie Flanagan: 32:35

Yeah, I I picked it because of the rye, because I know you like ries.

Matt Fox: 32:39

Oh, I do like rice.

Jamie Flanagan: 32:40

So that's I think that's why it was also like that.

Matt Fox: 32:42

It was a bright rye, is what they said. Yes, it's a bright rye. Yeah, I get all this. No, it's uh it's a it's a very good um sipper, if you will.

Jamie Flanagan: 32:51

Yeah, is it worth uh $99.95?

Matt Fox: 32:55

I would still go back to uh the small batch.

August Gitschlag: 32:58

I'm going to say no.

Matt Fox: 32:59

I go back to my $35 small batch.

August Gitschlag: 33:01

Lovely, yes. Yeah, do I need another one? No, not necessarily.

Jamie Flanagan: 33:06

I would I would I would replace my small batch before. The color is is really fascinating to me. It looks like it's really if they stop doing these, I'll be like, oh dang. Um we already know the couple though.

Matt Fox: 33:18

We already know you married this, so August, kill Mary Screw.

Jamie Flanagan: 33:21

But I gotta know what the other options are. Kill Mary Screw.

August Gitschlag: 33:30

Would you find it finger bang it? Okay. All right, you had to work it around. It's uh got it.

Jamie Flanagan: 33:36

There it is.

August Gitschlag: 33:37

Yeah, I shook your hand and hit the bell. That's right, some on my finger. Um, you told my favorite uh dirty joke the other day. What was it? How do you know if a mechanic got laid? Uh how do you know if a mechanic got laid? One of his fingers is clean.

Matt Fox: 33:52

Oh, for my god.

Jamie Flanagan: 33:55

What? Okay.

Speaker 4: 33:58

What?

Jamie Flanagan: 33:59

Family show. No, it is not. It absolutely isn't. Family show.

August Gitschlag: 34:06

What's worth? Finger banging mechanics or uh or mushroom fairy jizz. What's worse? No, no, I think that was mushroom fairy combo. Yeah, bad choice. Could have been more literary. I could have had alliteration better with that.

Matt Fox: 34:18

No, no, you couldn't have because the way you said it and the reaction you got was the exact response you wanted.

Jamie Flanagan: 34:25

Oh yeah. Oh, yeah, not a family show. Not a family show.

Matt Fox: 34:28

They they had no idea. They had no idea what to do with themselves when you said that. Yeah, well, uh, all right.

Jamie Flanagan: 34:37

We're gonna do this uh again. We're gonna do it from your house. Um, all you gotta do is drop us a line and uh we'll I got people lined up, they're itching to it. Chew it from your man cable. What are we waiting for? I need uh trophies.

August Gitschlag: 34:48

Yeah, we need trophies. Yeah, uh we need we need something to put on the wall. Man cable commemorate that we were there.

Jamie Flanagan: 34:54

I had a guy besides like shit in the checkbox who's gonna do a 3D print thing for me, but he's like, Well, it's gonna look cheesy. I'm like, it's have you heard the show? Yeah, um, anyway, so we're coming up with something. We're working on it, working on it. But uh, yeah, so we're coming to a home near you like yours. Uh, if you drop us a line and uh and we like doing uh lions games.

August Gitschlag: 35:18

Yes, we'll do a lions game from your man cave. Sure, a sporting event is usually what you're doing in your man cave, right? Correct. So if it's lions, it could be pistons, it could be a Red Wings game, whatever you want to show off in your man cave.

Matt Fox: 35:28

If you had somebody custom make your bar in your man cave, oh yeah, invite them, bring them along.

August Gitschlag: 35:34

Oh, yeah.

Matt Fox: 35:36

Show it off, get it, yeah.

August Gitschlag: 35:37

Get your contractor in there, sure. Sure, or your brother-in-law, whoever did it.

Jamie Flanagan: 35:42

Some of that, some of that.

Matt Fox: 35:44

I was going a little higher up, but okay, let's go.

Jamie Flanagan: 35:46

Brother-in-law, brother-in-law. I like it. Uh all right. So, uh, anything else? No, I think anything else for the good of the group.

Matt Fox: 35:54

What else is coming up, fellas, in the next few weeks?

Jamie Flanagan: 35:57

Oh, we got the uh double meat. There's a snack box called Double Neat.

August Gitschlag: 36:02

I'm fascinated by this because you're gonna sell a snack box to us to drink with. Don't we just eat everything in sight? Yeah, I know.

Jamie Flanagan: 36:08

All right, uh, but it's it's uh all the snacks are like bourbon inspired, so it's like bourbon-inspired jerky. There's uh you know, uh I brought meats, seasoned meats, uh coffee that was aged in bourbon barrels, you know. So it's all it's all uh very bourbon and bourbon-esque, bourbon inspired. Uh, and they're fun. It's uh fun, fun stuff in the box.

August Gitschlag: 36:27

Oh, if anybody wants to buy any 80s or 90s toys, I'm selling off my toy collection. Chocolates. Are you yes?

Matt Fox: 36:33

Oh, the Han Solos? No, the Han Solos are staying. We used when you sent that out, I was like, is he absolutely out of his connection?

August Gitschlag: 36:39

Not the Han Solos, nope, everything else. All the other random stuff I picked up, like from the black hole from the 70s, and my Robotech toys and my uh Stargate toys and all my Pulp Fiction toys and I got a whole bunch of Legos that are boxed that are like you know serious Legos, yeah, serious Legos, like Indiana Jones Legos and things like that.

Matt Fox: 36:58

So my boy this past weekend took the moment to clean his sorry clean his bedroom and he A lot of crusty underwear. No, no, god no, we're not there yet.

August Gitschlag: 37:07

Com socks.

Matt Fox: 37:08

No, stop it. And he showed me a figurine still in the box of a figurine from the solo movie. He's like, is this worth anything? I probably haven't. I'm like, no, the solo movie?

August Gitschlag: 37:23

No, that's a pretty that's that's fine. But he but he's into it.

Jamie Flanagan: 37:26

He's in he's like, is this worth anything?

Matt Fox: 37:28

I'm like, no, I'm sorry about it.

Jamie Flanagan: 37:29

What was the uh uh Luke Skywalker trading card just sold for 200k 200 plus 200, like 250,000?

August Gitschlag: 37:38

There was the C3 appeal one that looks like he has a brass boner that was the air card that everybody wanted back in the day. That was the expensive one.

Jamie Flanagan: 37:45

Yep, no, it was like this sold like in 2015 for like 300 bucks. Uh, and then just this week, this week it sold uh for over 200,000.

August Gitschlag: 37:56

Yeah, the the holy grail is the one that I don't believe exists, and that's the Boba Fett with the shooting rocket that was advertised as being a mail-in thing, and the only people that claim they ever have it are people from uh Cincinnati.

Matt Fox: 38:07

What?

August Gitschlag: 38:08

Because that's where Kenner was that's from the original, and it was like their prototypes, and there was some TV show where like one of the founders of UFC or something bought it for like fifteen thousand dollars. Wasn't that what kid not to tell his wife that he did it?

Matt Fox: 38:20

That was called How We Made America or something like that, one of those TV shows.

August Gitschlag: 38:24

No, well, it was just one of those toy hunters. It was a guy called the Toy Hunter, it's an interesting show. I watched, I enjoyed it. Um, but yeah, it's just that's like the holy grail of Star Wars toys. Yeah, um, but I don't know that there's more than one or two of them out there.

Matt Fox: 38:35

Dear Mr. Lucas, they were advertised actually exist in comic books as these things.

August Gitschlag: 38:40

No, he wouldn't know. Of course he wouldn't. He wouldn't know.

Matt Fox: 38:42

He's got his pulse on everything Star Wars. Maybe that's the funniest thing I've ever said.

August Gitschlag: 38:49

The Empire Strikes Back line of toys, about 15%, 20% of the toys never existed in the movie. They never showed, they're just made weird toys. So you're they never feel like bouncing robots and all these crazy troop transports. None of that shit was ever in the movie.

Matt Fox: 39:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just making a buck.

August Gitschlag: 39:05

Yep. There's certain people that only collect Empire Strikes Back toys because of how weird they are. Okay. Wow. Yeah, very nichey. All right. So I guess that's it. And there's your nerd talk for tonight. If we weren't nerdy enough about the apple spices and baking spices, yeah, yeah, corn forward pulses. Congrats on getting it right.

Jamie Flanagan: 39:24

M O U S E. Yeah, well done. You you win a shirt.

August Gitschlag: 39:27

Hey, I got it. You get a t-shirt.

Jamie Flanagan: 39:32

Everybody wants a shirt. You get a shirt, you get a shirt, you get a shirt. All right. Uh, all the podcast things, all the podcast places, do that. Like, subscribe, leave a comment. And uh, it does. It's uh it's fun to see. It's fun to see those numbers grow. Yeah, uh, we like that you like us. Like, share with a friend, like whatever it is you share with friends. Um, I was going to do that.

August Gitschlag: 39:53

That is the magical voice of Jamie Flanagan. That is Matt Fox.

Matt Fox: 39:58

And this gentleman, and I use that word properly, August Kitchlag. Right next to me.

Jamie Flanagan: 40:04

Yes. All right. We'll see y'all very soon. See you guys. Cheers. Thanks, guys.

August Gitschlag: 40:08

Cheers. Cheers.