We Taste Three Forgotten Bottles And Argue About What Belongs In An Old Fashioned

Orphan bottles are the most honest kind of tasting, because nobody is trying to “win” with a hype label. We grab what’s been left behind in the studio, pour it, and let the whiskey tell on itself. That turns into a lively flight that jumps from 2XO French Oak bourbon with a surprisingly big oak driven nose, to a punchier Sagamore Spirit Double Oak rye that brings spice, dark fruit, and a sharp finish that divides the table.

We also go deep on cocktail culture for home bartenders who want more than the same old two builds. Old Fashioned riffs lead the way, including a Clint Eastwood Old Fashioned that sneaks in Green Chartreuse and blurs the line between Old Fashioned and Manhattan. That opens the bigger question: when a bottle is hard to find, where do you actually get it? We share real talk on the Chartreuse hunt, measured pours, and why the right local spot can suddenly have what every shelf is missing.

The night keeps swerving into fun territory: New York cocktail ideas that sound insane on paper, a quick debate on weird ingredients, and a blunt verdict on a lighter blended Canadian pour that just doesn’t hang with the heavier hitters. Then we end with a show-stopping sample of Maker’s Mark Cellar Aged, the kind of high proof bourbon that reminds you what “full-bodied” really means.

If you like whiskey tasting notes, bourbon vs rye debates, cocktail recipes, and Detroit bar culture, hit subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave us a review so more people can find the happy hour.

Recorded 4-13-26

Transcript

Introductions And Tell A Friend

SPEAKER_07 0:16

We're gonna drink a fine whiskey and smoke a really fine cigar.

Jamie Flanagan 0:25

It is time for happy hour. It is the man cave happy hour whiskey, cigars, spirits, the stories that go along with it. We are off to a boom and stop. Oh yeah, absolutely.

Matt Fox 0:34

Butts in the seats. Who are you?

Jamie Flanagan 0:37

I'm Jamie Flanagan.

Matt Fox 0:39

Sorry. That over there is David Wright, the motor city hypnotist. That over there is August Gitchlack.

SPEAKER_07 0:45

Wow, when he got it right. I'm so proud of you.

August Gitshlag 0:47

I thought you're gonna go easy to go with Barry with uh Barry Mosul over there. No, Barry, you say this guy.

SPEAKER_03 0:55

Uh this guy.

August Gitshlag 0:58

You gotta introduce Matt Fox. There it is.

SPEAKER_08 1:02

There it is.

SPEAKER_03 1:02

There it is.

SPEAKER_08 1:03

We did it.

Jamie Flanagan 1:04

So the Matt Cave Happy Hour. We appreciate that you're here with us. So do this just one step further. You've been here to tell a friend. Yeah, that's uh the next step, the next step in the process. There's there's steps to the process. We have steps here, they're different.

Matt Fox 1:19

What was that? What was that? Wayne's world is that they'll tell a friend.

Jamie Flanagan 1:22

Right, right, right.

Matt Fox 1:22

Then they'll tell a friend. Tell a friend. Then they'll tell a friend.

Jamie Flanagan 1:25

That is it. That's all we need to do. Yeah, tell somebody about it. So it might be the authorities, could be a good buddy. Whatever, tell somebody about it. Somebody about too soon.

SPEAKER_05 1:33

Just just random people. Yeah.

Jamie Flanagan 1:36

Fair play. All right. But thanks for being here. We're going to get into some orphan bottles today. Yeah. Some cocktail recipes. You drop this book off, and I was like, what the hell is this? And I threw it away. Yeah.

August Gitshlag 1:45

You pulled it out of garbage because no one ever touches the garbage here for weeks at a time. Oh, you're right.

Jamie Flanagan 1:49

Weeks and weeks and weeks at a time. Yes. So we're going to get into that. David's with us. Barry's with us.

August Gitshlag 1:55

Yeah. Uh Matt has his books of uh of course.

Matt Fox 1:57

I brought see, I brought this book specifically for you, August. It's called Bubbly. Oh, that's my personality.

August Gitshlag 2:03

Why?

Matt Fox 2:03

Yes, it's a collection of champagne and sparkling.

SPEAKER_05 2:07

Shouldn't Jamie take that home?

August Gitshlag 2:09

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:09

Jamie's good with the champagne.

August Gitshlag 2:11

I am good.

Jamie Flanagan 2:13

We need Mrs. uh Mrs. V.

August Gitshlag 2:15

Since I got you all here, who's uh gonna come to the Whiskey Society on Sunday?

Matt Fox 2:19

You're out, right? Barry's got your in. I'm a firm maybe. I got RSVP, I gotta have spots. I know you do, but I'm still a firm maybe. It's only Monday.

Jamie Flanagan 2:28

Matt, you've never been a firm anything since 1995. You don't know me. Whoa, there's tools for that.

Matt Fox 2:35

Well, Jamie's known me since 1993-ish. And yeah, you would know.

SPEAKER_05 2:41

Yeah, I'll guess I'm gonna appreciate the invitation, but I can't come.

unknown 2:44

Okay.

August Gitshlag 2:45

Well, we're gonna get to that. I don't know if people I'm I'm just getting much much like driving home from Iowa. I'll go another Iowa.

Matt Fox 2:51

Okay, but I'm bummed. You are on a roll. Did you choke on those bones yet?

August Gitshlag 2:56

All right, how many pints did you have at some Irish event before you got here? I was at the Irish Music Cafe. Of course, there we go.

Jamie Flanagan 3:04

The other radio show on the other cave guys network and Pat Johnson and the Irish Music Cafe. We're having some fun over there. I was really gonna just drink two Guinnesses, two Guinean eyes, and next thing I know, there's like Jameson's after Jameson's, and another guy came in with a fresh bottle of triple that the triple, yeah, triple triple. Yeah, and you know, there we are.

Matt Fox 3:26

So it's like a fresh bottle of triple triple in your cup, and now all of a sudden I have a target on my chest. From across the table, and then I whatever, dude.

Jamie Flanagan 3:34

So I'm just being a little silly, but uh it's fine. But yeah, fun and shenanigans. Uh earlier with the Irish Music Cafe. Ironically enough, I was listening to the Irish Music Cafe earlier. This show today being brought to you by my uh my Irish radio.

SPEAKER_07 3:52

My Irish radio earliest record. Soon as you can bring it up, you bring the shit.

Jamie Flanagan 3:59

I could, I could, I did. I did, I can't, I can't. Do you have razor blades in the lip of the play? That's uh so Irish music, my Irish radio. I know my Irish radio, my Irishradio.com. It's uh 24-7 uh Irish Celtic music. Listen if you want. All right, that's all I got. So I August, you had a plan, right? I said, I got nothing. Let's do it. Well, we didn't have a plan. Well, I there was like an Emerson and a Belvedere, and you're like, no, let's do this.

August Gitshlag 4:30

So what were we gonna do? So when we don't have a plan, we always talk about this as being the backup plan. This is that plan B we have been sitting on. Well, you had like some kind of family. I'm like, we got a bunch of orphan bottles, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just grab them. Um, one of them we did open, whatever that two stuff is, and it's really nice.

Jamie Flanagan 4:49

I thought it was like on it right now. I thought it was a cognac.

August Gitshlag 4:53

I it has a color of a cognac, doesn't it? Yeah, I think it's a whiskey, though. It's a whiskey, it's a bourbon. Uh, where so who left that? I have no idea what that is. I got no fucking idea.

Jamie Flanagan 5:03

So I think it might have been from a basket.

2XO French Oak Tasting Notes

August Gitshlag 5:05

I think that was left by Gen Cherry. Gen cherry. I know the sagana rye was for sure. I thought that was left by uh Mrs. Vino. No, okay, that's what makes these orphans. Why don't you roch it? I'm not even well, it doesn't really matter. I am doesn't matter which gorgeous lady left the whiskey here. Thank you, honey.

Jamie Flanagan 5:24

I know, I know. One of they both flew in on dragons. Yes, they did. They're both beautiful blonde ladies, and I'm like, and so it's like, oh, they should arrive on dragons. There that would be so much more fun.

Matt Fox 5:34

What about unicorns? Why not a unicorn? Why is it gonna be a dragon? That's reserved for dragon's tougher.

Jamie Flanagan 5:38

Dragon, yeah. Uh all right, but yeah, so there's this one. It looks like a it looks like it looks like a a like a like a brandy.

August Gitshlag 5:46

But it's got a it's got a what's it finished in? There's like there's a finish on that.

Jamie Flanagan 5:49

That's it's an oak series, French oak, Kentucky Straight bourbon finished in front French oak barrels. Yep. So there you go. The two X. Oh, X. I forgot my readers, so you guys are gonna have to be my people today. So it's the French Oak blend, bold notes, coffee, and cinnamon arise from the secondary edition of a highly charred French oak. So highly charred. Highly charred. So it's like a probably four or five, seven char. That's not a thing. All right. But a high char oak barrel. And towards the end of maturation, the sweeter flavors create delicately complex and balanced within the spicy notes from the rye in the mash bill. But the mash bill is not on here, it's the number two. Let's get it. The letter X, the letter O whiskey.com. It is their website. Yeah, 2XO whiskey. It's nice though. Yeah, I thought it was like a uh like a cavassier or something.

SPEAKER_03 6:48

You probably ought to let that check that out.

Jamie Flanagan 6:50

Doesn't it? Doesn't it look like a C here?

SPEAKER_03 6:52

It does. It does have that color.

Matt Fox 6:53

It's got that, and it's got that boy, the the look too with the black label in the the mash bill on the two XO that we're looking at here is 35% rye.

Jamie Flanagan 7:01

Okay, that's a nice high rye. Okay, not high rye, but it's a good amount of rye. That's high er. High er? High er rye. And then oh, I I think that's it. So 35 rye? Well, it's gotta be at least 51% corn because it says does it say bourbon whiskey or say whiskey on the front?

Matt Fox 7:21

Well, 50% corn, 35% rye, and then there's a other stuff.

Jamie Flanagan 7:26

It says bourbon.

Matt Fox 7:27

Yeah, and then there's oh okay. Well, then I might not be looking at 51 plus. Oh, that's a two times oak.

August Gitshlag 7:33

Oh, it's their French oak.

Matt Fox 7:34

Yeah, I'm sorry, I got the wrong one here. Because I don't know what I'm doing. This is called show prep. Best rehearsal once ever.

August Gitshlag 7:45

But your your little Caesars cupcakes and uh Girl Scout cookies to keep you alive, right?

SPEAKER_03 7:50

Yeah, it does not suck.

Jamie Flanagan 7:51

Oh, anybody want a Girl Scout cookie? There's some thin mints over here. Nope. Um okay. All right, I'm enjoying that. I'm gonna crash harsh. Sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar.

Matt Fox 8:05

Well, 50% corn, 35% rye, and then whatever they want to do after that.

Jamie Flanagan 8:09

All right, how's about that? Yeah, yep. So is it 50 or 51? Doesn't it have to be 51 or 50?

August Gitshlag 8:16

All right, but 50. It's a$50 bottle of total wine. Is it all right? Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, those that's the same one. It's a French.

Jamie Flanagan 8:26

So I remember because we hit this bottle a little bit last time, and I remember enjoying it when we when we tapped into it. Let's uh let's give it another pour and uh there's some rough reviews on it though. Yeah, yeah. Well, let's give it. No, don't read the reviews. Come on in, Nikki.

August Gitshlag 8:41

I already like it. I already thought it had a really nice finish to it. Can you send some of the Gwen can we turn that air conditioning on too? It's goddamn hot. It's ballsman here, man.

Jamie Flanagan 8:49

You are just Donna, Donna. It's right, Madonna Donna, Donna.

August Gitshlag 8:54

Do you see that uh Mariah Carey put her put her penthouse up for sale for 27 million in New York? She was in she was in when was she in penthouse? Yeah. She has a three of it was three apartments to the ceiling, girl. With a rooftop with a rooftop terrace. Well, uh it has it's an eight-bedroom penthouse. I'm sure she had the in New York a few times. I got it. Yeah, it hit the news today. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

So all right, so let's see. Are you moving?

Jamie Flanagan 9:20

It's the blue one that says cool, Matt. Yeah, I have it. You don't normally cool is like something you don't really normally do. Wow! That was bam! I was looking you right in the eyes with this. Yeah, you did reasonably.

Matt Fox 9:36

Ladies and gentlemen, so I almost got to take my shirt off as well.

August Gitshlag 9:38

Well, no love, no love Monday here at uh the podcast uh your voice studio.

Matt Fox 9:46

That escalated. It just wasn't turning on on the cool temperature, and I kept having to turn it down.

Jamie Flanagan 9:50

That escalated quickly. Wow, we need Dave to fire himself. I do, I need to have my computer set up. That escalated quickly. Oh, I feel it now.

August Gitshlag 10:02

Yeah, there you go.

Jamie Flanagan 10:02

You're welcome. Thank you, Matthew.

August Gitshlag 10:04

Yeah, I don't see any other reviews of this. No. All right, what are you doing?

Jamie Flanagan 10:08

All right, so this is 2XO. I I thought it was a I thought it was a brandy. Someone has to make this, right?

August Gitshlag 10:14

So who makes it? Yeah, I don't know.

Matt Fox 10:18

Who makes it? See, I'm already drunk, I was already drinking on it. So drinking on it? I was drinking on it with the big ice cube that you brought.

Jamie Flanagan 10:25

We should have done we should have done it. Pass some of those out there, man. Take one down, pass it around.

Matt Fox 10:33

Barry.

Jamie Flanagan 10:33

Oh, you got some. There you go.

August Gitshlag 10:41

Anyone else?

Jamie Flanagan 10:42

No, we're gonna I I smell the the barrel on the nose, man. You get the barrel, you get the barrel notes. A lot of a lot of barrel notes. On the schnazz.

August Gitshlag 10:53

Prestige Beverage Group Louis. Prestige Worldwide? Prestige World Wine.

Jamie Flanagan 10:57

Don't wreck my boat, Dad. Oh, is that the name of their thing? Catalina wine mixer. It's a fucking Catalina wine mixer, man.

SPEAKER_07 11:04

Fucking Catalina wine mixer!

Jamie Flanagan 11:06

Woo! We're a Billy Joel cover band, a 90s Billy Joel. Alright, anyway. Okay, that was uh less of a look than than one would wanted from August.

August Gitshlag 11:20

Yeah.

Jamie Flanagan 11:21

The nose is nice. The nose is is nice, and it's a lot of barrel, uh, barrel like uh like burgundy kind of.

August Gitshlag 11:29

But I just did a sip of my you know my my girl here, my girl Long Branch, my Matthew McConaughey, my man crush.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

Right, all right, all right.

August Gitshlag 11:37

I was uh oh my god, thank you for Lemberry.

Matt Fox 11:40

Look, it's got potpourri in it.

Jamie Flanagan 11:41

Oh, dried orange that is potpourri, sir. I thought you might like it in the bottle itself. Yeah, yeah. He did a uh a dried tomato in there.

August Gitshlag 11:50

Yes, my fried green tomato cocktail.

Jamie Flanagan 11:52

Sun dried tomatoes in that potato. Okay, boy. Dave, did you give it a shot? I did. What are you what are you getting on this?

SPEAKER_05 12:03

Let me go back to the nose for a minute.

August Gitshlag 12:06

If I see this on the half off shelf, I'm buying it. Yeah, okay. Yeah, all right. It's a it's an easy drinker at the full-blown$49.99.$49. They say you can see it as low as$37.99 in some state minimum. That's probably where I would end up on this.

Jamie Flanagan 12:24

Yeah, yeah. I could see this at a I wouldn't.

August Gitshlag 12:26

I if I saw this at$45,$49 on a shelf, I'd be like, if it had a label that said like, you know, Buffalo Trace, French oak, then I think you could get$50 for it just because of the name.

Jamie Flanagan 12:37

The the nose is great.

August Gitshlag 12:38

2XO from prestige worldwide. I don't really know what else they make.

Jamie Flanagan 12:43

The nose is great, the taste is okay. Yeah, no, it's I I can't disagree with that.

Matt Fox 12:48

It's uh yeah, it's a drinker, it's uh it's nothing that it doesn't offend you.

Jamie Flanagan 12:53

But I wouldn't look any, I wouldn't look it's a little thin, yeah. And I was I chowed like a half a sleeve of thin mint cookies before I tried this too.

SPEAKER_05 13:02

I had water.

August Gitshlag 13:04

They make bison ridge, champs, bivamio, bel pasto, conticedor. They have a they have a portfolio of stuff here. Highland Queen, Kharkov, Kingston, kinky gimmicks.

Jamie Flanagan 13:16

Yeah, we have gimmicks and gimmicks and more gimmicks.

August Gitshlag 13:19

Are they not one that you've heard of? Are they just because I have not heard of one of those a gimmicky label?

Jamie Flanagan 13:24

That's why I think I thought I got this in like a basket.

August Gitshlag 13:27

I thought I won this like an amuse basket. This sounds this looks like all the shit you see in a ghetto party store in the fridge. That's why I thought it was. Windsor Canadian. Yeah, there you go. Uh Starling Castle Saline. It sounds like the bottom shelf at the nose is amazing.

Jamie Flanagan 13:48

The nose is amazing. Highland Queen.

August Gitshlag 13:52

Would you call me? Sounds like one of the websites you subscribe to.

Jamie Flanagan 13:57

No, he's dancing, dancing, dancing Highland Queen. All right. Yeah, this is I might have seen this. Does it taste a little young on the very, very end?

August Gitshlag 14:08

Maybe I guess.

Jamie Flanagan 14:10

It's a little bit more. A lot of these are wine.

Matt Fox 14:15

It's not offensive, it's just well, not at all.

August Gitshlag 14:17

The nose is amazing. You know it's plastic and it comes with a cup of free ice. Good stuff, Maynard.

SPEAKER_05 14:27

I I feel like this this just it just gets it just doesn't get over the top, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 14:34

If that makes sense. I'm the color is great. For a little while from it, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:38

I'm with it. It's getting it gets right here, but it just doesn't go for another.

August Gitshlag 14:41

I need to dump some syrup in there and some bitters and make it into an old fashioned.

Jamie Flanagan 14:45

I'm not seeing, I'm not seeing legs, I'm not seeing great legs on it.

August Gitshlag 14:48

Yeah, you're dead to me. All right. I mean for one getting the old.

Jamie Flanagan 14:54

If you just dump that in your cocktail, I paid for it.

August Gitshlag 14:56

It was fine. Yes, for what you pay for it for, sure.

Cocktail Books And Old Fashioned Variations

Jamie Flanagan 14:59

All right. All right, that's all right. So we brought out books. Why did we bring out books?

Matt Fox 15:04

What well you August, you were uh August was done working for this. Yeah, August was doing uh he was celebrity bartending at Suzy's, and oh and somebody said, Can I get a rum and coke?

Jamie Flanagan 15:15

And he was like, What's in that? And he's like, Well, let me look it up in the book.

Matt Fox 15:18

Let me look it up in the book, yeah. But uh, but Susie was uh gracious enough and gifted him. No more thin men for you. I would mean to vote. Anyways, I'm just I'm just telling your story here, honestly. And so yeah, he uh he was gifted a book of uh old fashioned, correct?

Jamie Flanagan 15:38

Oh, it's all old fashioned, all different types of old old fashions of old fashions.

August Gitshlag 15:43

There is a a couple recipes in here that we absolutely have to try. Okay, sure on this one right here.

Jamie Flanagan 15:48

Yeah, we've done we've done it. We did cranberry old fashioned, we did, we've done smoked old fashioned, but have we had the Clint Eastwood old fashioned?

Matt Fox 15:56

No, I'm happy.

Jamie Flanagan 15:58

I'm feeling sad.

Matt Fox 15:59

I got sunshine.

Jamie Flanagan 16:00

Wait for this. Feeling bad, okay. I don't know the words.

August Gitshlag 16:05

I know the two ounces of rye whiskey, nice, eighth of an ounce of a Angostora bitters, one eighth of an ounce of green chartreuse. Oh, we got a quarter ounce of Dimerera, that's syrup again that I always get wrong, and orange twist. Okay, and they serve it up sort of like the last word. That's great. I guess it makes it uh very weird. The last words are chartreuse, Luxardo, gin, and lime. Oh, yeah.

Jamie Flanagan 16:34

This is whiskey.

August Gitshlag 16:34

All right, so chartreuse and whiskey. Yes, chartreuse. In the Clint Eastwood version of an old fashioned put a put a put a sign me up note on that. I did. Corner is bent in.

SPEAKER_05 16:45

Why is it named after Clint Eastwood?

August Gitshlag 16:48

Great, it doesn't say anything about that.

SPEAKER_03 16:49

Did you drink one and you want to shoot something? Well, maybe, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:55

The only thing you'll be able to say is, do you feel lucky?

August Gitshlag 16:58

One can picture Clint's man with no name squinting and baring his front teeth if they're drawing on one of these cards. Yeah, you gotta be careful when you say that.

SPEAKER_03 17:05

So this isn't like uh Clint Eastwood piano tinkling.

Matt Fox 17:10

So you gotta ask yourself one question.

Jamie Flanagan 17:12

Do I take one step or two? Make me gay. There was this guy, the shamwa guy, you know, there's like the shamwa guy. I know him. Mike I don't know if you want to stand on a pedophile about that or not, but oh oh no, he's like messed up, man. He would do like before he was doing shamwow, he was doing like viral videos back when viral videos on VHS, like the turkey boys, and they would pass them around the cassette tapes. He was doing viral videos on VHS tapes and passing around. He would do like bum fights, he would get bums to go and fight each other in the whole in the Hollywood ball. He was an awful human being, still is funny, screwed up. It was it was great to hang out with him for a week in his apartment.

August Gitshlag 17:59

Uh you know, Jamie just suddenly turned into Rocky's trainer. Mickey, cut me.

Jamie Flanagan 18:06

I'm seeing I'm just trying to disguise my voice.

Matt Fox 18:08

I'm seeing three, Mick. I don't know which one to hit.

Jamie Flanagan 18:10

So hit the one at the time, but yeah, so but yeah, he but he did this Clint Eastwood thing and it was like a spoof, and it was like, Go ahead, make me gay. And it was like it was funny, and he actually had because he knew Jeffrey Lewis's son, and so Jeffrey Lewis was in a bunch of these the guy from every which way, but every oh geez, yeah, he was in Lewis, yeah. And he was in the the monkey, no Jeffrey or no, Jerry Reed. No, Jeffrey Lewis is oh, I'm sorry, I'm thinking of the wrong guy.

SPEAKER_05 18:40

Sorry, okay.

August Gitshlag 18:41

Thanks. I didn't know if it was just a simian in general.

Jamie Flanagan 18:44

So he was in, he was in there in the orangutan. Left turn, Clyde. Yeah, right turn, right? No, right turn, Clyde. Pugs, yeah.

August Gitshlag 18:53

Anyhow, another one that contains Aquavite, but I also have plenty of aqua vieat. Yeah, Acveet. Oh, you got that at home. We don't, yeah.

Jamie Flanagan 19:00

We haven't had oh no, no, let's go back to Chartreuse. Okay, I've done entire episodes on it. Chartreuse is hard to get, yes, yes, chartreuse is no longer hard to get if you're a friend of the man cave happy hour.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

That's true.

Jamie Flanagan 19:12

If if you're the friend of the man cave happy hour, you just have to go see our tallest of our shortest friends who has the best kept secrets.

Matt Fox 19:21

Then weren't they just nominated for an award this past week? They were for best kept secret?

August Gitshlag 19:26

Yes, yes, because they're gonna lose that because everybody knows.

Jamie Flanagan 19:29

Yeah, no, it's like an ash all like the the top whiskey, the whiskey speakeasies in the case.

August Gitshlag 19:34

You can't how do you not nominate them? They have stuff that's impossible to find on shelves, yeah. Yeah, it's just it's just insane. So they are it's a well you've been in that old space, yeah. Yeah, it's now a beautiful cocktail. It was a club before, yeah.

Jamie Flanagan 19:46

Were you back there with us on one of the origin? Yeah, we did those bottom shelf, we did the ankle biters. Yes, that's right. Oh, yeah, Barry's with what's in the uh we've drank red breast in between. Oh, right on. Yeah, that's what we did. But uh since so Tony opened up behind the wine garden, he opened up, he got a liquor license, and he has a speakeasy back there, and so he now he has like he gets like liquor license on premise kind of allocations. He's got I got more chartreuse than I know to do is we're selling it up front. Oh so if you're looking for chartreuse, it's at state minimum at the wine garden. I don't know it, it was right at the counter. He had three of them on the counter right next to the red here, take these, get them out of the way. And well, take them out. Oh, take them out. Oh, no, because of the thing boxes made of it. The rep comes in, he's like, I got six. You want them? He's like, Yeah, yeah, sure. Take all and he's like, Yeah, he goes, I don't need them, they're sitting, but you know, he didn't because they, I mean, it's it's a measured pour, right? Like we're doing the clean the clean use wood. It's in the it's oh, how much is it in the clean eastwood? It's a smaller portion. Go back to uh clean eastwood.

August Gitshlag 20:45

Uh they just want whoa, does it say an eighth of an ounce? They'll save an eighth of an ounce. I don't know if we even have a spoon that small, right?

Jamie Flanagan 20:52

That's like two dashes. It's like two eighths.

August Gitshlag 20:54

If they say this crosses the line between an old-fashioned and a Manhattan, once you put the chartreuse in there, yeah. That medicinal, they call it a medicinal taste. I don't believe there's anything medicinal about chartreuse. I think it's herbal and fascinating. Yeah, but I understand why that is considered medicinal in the traditional sense. What medicinal cocktails taste like?

Jamie Flanagan 21:09

Well, I mean, uh, when you have when you use chartreuse in a cocktail, it's usually one of the smaller pores. And so Tony's like, I got I'm stocked, I got a lot. So he's selling it off. So an ounce at a time, if not less. If you're a friend of a man cave, you'll know who Tony Batou is at the wine garden. Go see Tony, Tony B. He'll take care of you, and you get yourself a bottle of chartreuse, and you'll be the envy of all envy of all your friends and neighbors. Yep. All right, all right, Matt, you were looking through your book.

August Gitshlag 21:32

I mean another bottle of weird there.

Matt Fox 21:34

So, what is that? This I received as a gift. Uh, it's got New York cocktails. It's a collection of 100 recipes inspired by the big apple.

Jamie Flanagan 21:44

Okay.

Matt Fox 21:44

So it kind of goes over through everything, and you know, we got the New York sour, which is one of your favorites with the uh wine float.

Jamie Flanagan 21:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't do the uh I don't do the egg whites. No, no, no.

August Gitshlag 21:54

I'm a big wuss on the it sounds weird, but you don't know. It's really it just makes it frothy and fun. It's all it does. It's a nothing burger. It's really worth it. It's worth it. No, it's not. It's usually they poke that little hole and it drains out. And it's like coli. Yeah. As long as it drains out and it's not solid, you're fine. And I there really is no taste to egg whites. No, there's nothing to it. It's it's a it's a nothing burger of a cocktail additive. I think I'm fine with it. Yeah. And we're all we're all meeting.

Jamie Flanagan 22:20

I am I'm leery of it. I I usually skip it on the Matt, like Matt said, on the on the New York Sours. But yes.

SPEAKER_03 22:25

So did you stay away from the eggnog at my house?

Jamie Flanagan 22:27

I did not.

Chartreuse Hunt And Speakeasy Tips

Matt Fox 22:28

Oh, I didn't. I I didn't stay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I did not stay away from the egg.

Jamie Flanagan 22:32

I think by the end of the night, I was like, well, all right, I'll try the eggnog. Early in the night, I was like, oh yeah, sure, I'll have some whoop over the shoulder.

SPEAKER_03 22:40

There are eggs a plenty.

Jamie Flanagan 22:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm uh, yeah.

Matt Fox 22:44

I just have a lot of color for a rye. There's an awful lot of color in this. Yeah, there is. Yeah. Then uh also we're all music folks in here. They have there's a joy division drink in New York, and it's got uh gin. You can do any, it says beef eater, but you can do anything. It's got gin, driver move, control, and cacao, but uh, and then three dashes of absinthe as well in this. So, you know, it joined.

Jamie Flanagan 23:12

I was absinthe today.

Matt Fox 23:13

Where are you? Where are you?

Jamie Flanagan 23:16

I'm gonna do it. I'm probably a fresh one. I'm gonna know a fresh one.

Matt Fox 23:19

But it's you know, it's a book of drinks uh from New York, so it's it's just kind of fun to all right.

Jamie Flanagan 23:24

So they're New York, New York based cocktails. Yeah, New York. Was there something in there you wanted to highlight? Was there one that caught your eye? That Clint Eastwood, man. That's uh that Clint Eastwood's making me happy.

Matt Fox 23:34

Yeah, there it is. So I really want to do the we were talking about dragons earlier, and this one's called this one's called Dragon's Breath. This is uh Dragon's Breath, where you got five drops of drops, not dashes, of Tabasco, apricot liquor, driver mouth, and calvatos, one ounce of calvatos.

Jamie Flanagan 23:54

Yeah, so I'm out.

Matt Fox 23:56

You never know.

Jamie Flanagan 23:58

I don't know. So do you like do you like that hot saucy stuff? I mean, I have the heartburn to prove I do. So I put that shit on everything. Yeah, I know. I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm Polish, I put Laurie seasoned salt.

SPEAKER_05 24:13

If you're having a bloody merry, you want it.

Jamie Flanagan 24:15

Lori season salt, everything on everything.

August Gitshlag 24:18

Oh, laurie has everything, yeah. Laurie seasoned salt, everything. By the way, it's boiled meat, it's got no flavor. You gotta put something on.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

You ever look at the second ingredient on uh Laurie season salt? Salt, salt, salt, salt, sugar, sugar.

Jamie Flanagan 24:33

There's another ancient Chinese secret. Sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar.

Matt Fox 24:39

I don't know. Would you guys ever put a black truffle in an old-fashioned ooh?

Jamie Flanagan 24:43

A black truffle. Why not? Why there gotta be a black truffle?

Matt Fox 24:46

Because that's what the recipe calls for.

Jamie Flanagan 24:47

Okay.

unknown 24:48

Okay.

Jamie Flanagan 24:49

Why not?

Matt Fox 24:51

I'm just curious if you'd ever you know spend the money to put a black truffle.

Jamie Flanagan 24:55

The truffles are those like cone-shaped mushrooms kind of things, right? Yes, I believe. I mean, yeah, they're cone ish fungus. And they're they're subterrained here.

SPEAKER_03 25:05

Yes, these and things. All right, that's why they dig them with dogs and pigs. I don't know, it's just it's all right.

Jamie Flanagan 25:10

So they're subterraining. All right, I thought they're what are the uh no morel.

SPEAKER_03 25:14

You're thinking morel. I was thinking morel.

Jamie Flanagan 25:16

All right, morel. I got like a little patch of morel mushrooms that come up in my yard every spring. There's like six of them that come up just a corner of my yard, six little, I don't know. They're I eat them every spring and I get really tripped out. So, but I think I think they're morels. No, I don't, I don't eat them. I usually hit them with the mower before I'm like, oh I know. Never mind, I know what's wrong with you. Triple triple.

SPEAKER_05 25:37

Yeah, you figured it out. It took you long enough. What's wrong with him? Oh, this is good content.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

They feel a little bit all right. This one has uh a much better write-up. I'm really interested in this.

Jamie Flanagan 25:51

On the on the Sagamore, we're I'm I'm 9999 sure Jennifer left this was a left behind. I just further Jen left us with us. I'm not although her email is Jennifer.

SPEAKER_05 26:03

Her formal formal name is the first one. Oh, that's Jennifer. This is double. So are you guys all on to the Sagamore now?

August Gitshlag 26:08

Yes. I am not. No, I am not quite there yet. I am.

Jamie Flanagan 26:11

I did. I haven't drank.

SPEAKER_05 26:13

I got like um, please.

Jamie Flanagan 26:15

Yeah, I just tasted. Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it.

Wild Cocktail Ideas From New York

SPEAKER_05 26:17

I'm not, I'm not drinking, I'm just you can drink it. It's okay. I drink it.

Jamie Flanagan 26:20

I drank it. I'm just uh don't leave it.

SPEAKER_05 26:22

It's just got like a flat nose, like like okay, like all right.

Jamie Flanagan 26:26

Wait till you get that shit on the side.

SPEAKER_05 26:28

I'm just gonna say I'm gonna wait, wait till I take a test.

Matt Fox 26:32

I got I got the oak. I definitely got down the nose. Yeah, you couldn't avoid it.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

A cold, you couldn't avoid it.

August Gitshlag 26:41

Actually, I'm not I'm not it's Maryland based, it's made in Baltimore. Really? The Sagamore ride? Yeah, it's like the pride of Baltimore Sagamore, Sagamore.

Matt Fox 26:49

Why why is Sagamore kind of like goodwill hunting? Is is there Sagamore, Maryland?

August Gitshlag 26:54

96.6 proof. It ain't no kid here. All right, 96. Innovative wave stave barrel finishing. Wave staves. Uh that's those staves that wood you put in the barrel, too. They're they're they're rushing it along. Uh oh. So they're in a they're in a barrel and they put the wood staves in I put in the wine.

Jamie Flanagan 27:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. All right. But that's that's cool. There's a resort called Satra. Because like the uh like Sinatra, Sinatra Select from uh Jack Daniels, they score the inside of the barrels before they and if I win another nice uh NBA bet or something like that, I'm going right over to Total Wine and get one of those last bottles they have in Michigan because that was one of the premier things I've had.

August Gitshlag 27:33

My brother gave me a bottle of it. Sinatra select yeah, he gave me a bottle of that for uh talk to me about the Sinatra for my birthday, my 50th, and it's so damn good.

Matt Fox 27:40

My my son-in-law has a bottle of it, but I had a bottle of it at one point in time. One day. Okay and I got through about the end of it went away. I got I got through the entire bottle except for like maybe just a few ounces, and then it disappeared.

Jamie Flanagan 27:54

Much like Oasis, it was poured out in anger.

Matt Fox 27:57

Yes. Don't look back in anger. I I haven't, I've moved on.

Jamie Flanagan 28:01

Poured out in anger. I have all right but you did not like the Sinacha stuff. No, no, no, no, no. He loved it. I loved it. Someone didn't love him.

SPEAKER_05 28:10

Oh he was sabotaged.

Jamie Flanagan 28:14

So we have a we have a saboteur aboard. I can't wait to see what Opus Clips pulls out of this shit. We have a saboteur aboard.

Matt Fox 28:26

So Sagamore Spirit Distillery. Sagamore Spirit Distillery is in Maryland. Okay. It's in Baltimore, Maryland. I believe I had that.

Jamie Flanagan 28:34

Someone said that, yeah. Go ahead and have that. Germans. Oh, he's on a roll. He's on a roll.

Matt Fox 28:39

I'm just playing catch-up.

August Gitshlag 28:40

Go ahead. Go ahead. Okay, well, you can make a mustard too. Man, give it to me. It's got a lot of flavor. I don't know that I like. Oh, okay. It is like super rye to me. Okay. I don't know. Wow, you're a rye guy.

SPEAKER_03 28:50

I don't find anything real objectional about this at all. I mean, it's it's fine.

August Gitshlag 28:54

I feel like when I breathe in after it, it's a really weird scent.

SPEAKER_05 29:00

There's something just slightly off the age. I said a funk to this.

Jamie Flanagan 29:04

Where are we at on the age?

SPEAKER_03 29:08

I wouldn't call it a funk.

Matt Fox 29:09

I would call it a dark fruit. That's what your funk is about. Like a plum.

SPEAKER_03 29:12

Oh, stone fruit kind of thing.

August Gitshlag 29:15

All right. According to AI, a highly regarded Maryland style rye whiskey, known for its balanced, approachable profile and high rye, low ride mash bill blends. High rye, low ride. Rich spice forward. It is very spicy. Yeah.

Matt Fox 29:29

It's got a it's got a it's got a warmth to it on the back end after a hot moment.

August Gitshlag 29:34

So this is the double oak though. So this is different than your regular.

Jamie Flanagan 29:37

I'm getting a little bit ethanol-y way on the end. Way on the end. Yeah, I got it.

Matt Fox 29:42

There's ethanol on the nose. Not on the nose. I got ethanol on the nose.

Jamie Flanagan 29:46

I didn't get on the nose. I got I got just like not so much on the nose.

SPEAKER_05 29:53

How about that?

Jamie Flanagan 29:54

This is a$60 bottle of total wine.

SPEAKER_05 29:55

What is it? It tastes sharper than it smells.

SPEAKER_03 29:58

I don't get a real vanilla note on it either.

SPEAKER_05 30:00

No, not vanilla. I don't get it. I don't get a smell.

Jamie Flanagan 30:03

There's like the fruit, like a plum, and yeah, it's like a dark thing. Like a rich, rich fruit, dark fruit. And I maybe that's where the dark colors come in because it pulled more of the darkness out of the aged four to five years.

August Gitshlag 30:14

Four to five? High charred new American oak barrels.

Jamie Flanagan 30:17

All right. High char. Okay. Well, you get your high charge where the darkness comes from darkness. Four years. Four years in a high char. That'll give you some darkness. And they put in staves.

August Gitshlag 30:25

Hello, they're not they don't shy away from saying we're adding staves to the house.

Jamie Flanagan 30:29

And they add this and they add the staves to it.

August Gitshlag 30:31

So well, for four to five years, if I get this much flavor in something that's only four to five years. No, it's well the char is going to do that too.

Jamie Flanagan 30:38

Yeah.

August Gitshlag 30:38

But made limestone filtered water from our spring house built in 1909.

Jamie Flanagan 30:44

1909. They couldn't afford a new one?

August Gitshlag 30:47

I guess not. Not yet. Yeah, it says nutty flavors of hazelnut and pecan meld perfectly with vanilla and caramel. By the way, did you guys hear this now with pistachio shortage too?

Matt Fox 30:58

Oh yeah?

August Gitshlag 30:59

As I ran, is the number two pistachio importer in the world.

Jamie Flanagan 31:03

How did Biden fuck that up? Damn it, Joe. Thanks, Obama. You're welcome, Matt. Matt, like a lot of people. He wore that tan suit and they kept her pistachios to themselves.

August Gitshlag 31:16

Those Don Clintons, I don't know. I remember everyone was so offended by the tan suit, and now the guy dreaded like Jesus and no one cares.

Jamie Flanagan 31:27

Oh boy. Yes, sir. It's not like we don't know.

SPEAKER_05 31:30

There were a lot of nuts on that island, I can say that.

August Gitshlag 31:33

Hell like Kirkland Island has plenty of pistachios. We just go get those from Costco, you know?

SPEAKER_05 31:44

You get a bag if you buy a dozen golf balls.

Matt Fox 31:51

I don't know. You put pistachios in your trail mix or something. What are you doing over there? Oh, I love I eat pistachios all the time.

Sagamore Double Oak Rye Review

Jamie Flanagan 31:57

I do Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, just to bring religion into it.

August Gitshlag 32:00

We're gonna bring a third bottle into this. And I think we're gonna bring a third bottle into this and play uh Merry Fuck Kill. Oh, okay. Oh, Screwberry Kill. Yeah. All right, Screw Merry Kill. Yeah, wow. Does that are the word wiser mask? But Mr. Musl, as a guest, you can pick which one we're gonna try here.

Jamie Flanagan 32:16

So well, this is just this is just wiser's wise. This is this this is oh it's the Red Wings. That's the 10 year collectors.

Matt Fox 32:25

Well, you can open that. They didn't make the playoffs for 10 years.

August Gitshlag 32:28

They're all they're all yes. I was put in the bottle the last time they made the goddamn playoffs.

Jamie Flanagan 32:33

It's uh yeah, well done. Yeah, yeah. Age 10 years. This is just regular wiser. All wiser's is age ten years. No, I wouldn't.

August Gitshlag 32:41

I don't this is just regular wiser tasting with them. No, I feel like like Jen, that's one of Jen's profiles. It might be or portfolios.

Jamie Flanagan 32:48

I mean, we might have done a tisky tisky whisking, a whiskey tasting.

Matt Fox 32:54

All right, change that, switch it. Yep, bring it on back whiskeys and dotting eyes.

SPEAKER_03 33:00

Oh, I think I've done waste it on some tuskies.

Jamie Flanagan 33:02

Oh, yeah, we've done that. Everyone loves Tiskies, whiskey taco, foxtride. There's a lot of for a boy with a lisp here. Okay, I gotta I gotta speak.

August Gitshlag 33:14

You've gotten over that stutter so well since you became a professional radio DJ 30 years ago. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_05 33:18

No, I am a shitshow on the radio, especially on that Irish station. I see you hear the one.

Matt Fox 33:28

You hear the one take on the radio. You don't know that it took them 30 takes to get there.

August Gitshlag 33:40

Matt, no, I know. All right, so we're gonna open up that JPY. This was a bottle that I bought on accident.

Jamie Flanagan 33:46

Ah, on accident?

August Gitshlag 33:47

I was looking for Irish whiskey for St. Patrick's Parade Day. Yep.

Jamie Flanagan 33:51

And you bought that, and you're like, well, I got a spot Irish at all.

August Gitshlag 33:54

I got a spot where they don't know what they have on the shelves. And if I go in the right corners, I can find something. I go, you climb up there and grab that box, it has a sticker. Give me that's so dusty. I know you're 10 to 12 to 15 bucks cheaper than what it's supposed to be now. Sure, sure, sure. And this was next to it. I go, grab that bottle of that Wiser's Rye, I've never heard of next to it. And like it's like, okay, we'll do that.

Jamie Flanagan 34:15

Is that Sagamore or Rye? Is that Sagamore Saber? Sagamore Ride. Sagamore is here.

unknown 34:19

Yes.

Jamie Flanagan 34:19

Is it say Rye? Yes, it does say Rye. Throw one, throw a little one here for because we're gonna do also we got an all Rye, all Rye, all Rye episode coming up.

August Gitshlag 34:29

Well, we always talk about that.

Jamie Flanagan 34:31

And that's stolen from uh Whiskey Taco.

August Gitshlag 34:33

That was their idea. Yes, they did the all Rye, all Rye. You're welcome. By the way, though, the theme on Sunday is honky tonk. So wear your your belt buckles and your cowboy hats, kids. I need a this is a very uh it's light. It's very what a rye is pro-normalinking up like that.

SPEAKER_05 34:48

It's like somebody peed my glass.

August Gitshlag 34:50

Thank you. That's light. Yeah, that's light. It almost looks like Irish. It does. Which means I'm not gonna, I'm gonna hate it.

Jamie Flanagan 34:58

Oh, I don't like the nose. The bottle it looks very thin in the bottle.

August Gitshlag 35:01

Well, it's the only thing we have here tonight that doesn't have a cork.

Jamie Flanagan 35:04

The sat the Sagamore is the Sagamore and the 2XO are very dark, dark, dark. This is the Sagamore, the darkest of them all.

August Gitshlag 35:10

This is a straight-up blended Canadian whiskey that costs me$33 for the bottle.

Jamie Flanagan 35:13

And this you know what? 30 bucks. The Wiser's the regular Wiser's is darker than the Rye Weiser. That's age 10 years.

August Gitshlag 35:20

Okay, this is a blend.

Jamie Flanagan 35:22

Limited edition.

August Gitshlag 35:24

It's not it's like I mean, he had to look it up in the book to find out how much it charged me because he never remembers buying sweet. Okay, fair play. Really?

Jamie Flanagan 35:30

Wow, okay.

Matt Fox 35:31

Yeah, it's uh that's very Canadian.

Jamie Flanagan 35:34

You get a sweet nose, if you say no, no.

Matt Fox 35:36

I hate the nose, but the taste is sweet.

Jamie Flanagan 35:38

Oh, I was gonna say, I was like, I smelled it.

August Gitshlag 35:40

It was like I mean, it's talk about three distinct profiles. It's just kind of flavors of very, very different. This is all a little different. Yeah, hate the nose.

SPEAKER_05 35:48

I just I just feel like this is like just weak. That's the best way I can describe it.

August Gitshlag 35:52

It's not hitting you in the flavor feels like the other two. Exactly. Also, they're not trying to. Should have started, they're not trying to, right?

Matt Fox 35:58

And it's only 80 proof, Dave.

August Gitshlag 35:59

That's why those are those are bigger dogs for sure. 2XO wants to be a bigger dog than I think it is. Yeah, it's a it's a French Bulldog, not an actual bulldog. Yeah, it's a French oak bulldog.

SPEAKER_07 36:11

I want to be a bulldog. Back, back.

SPEAKER_05 36:21

Why do you think I have this outrageous accent?

August Gitshlag 36:26

Oh, okay. All right, well, everybody's gonna kill the wiser's rye. We get that.

SPEAKER_03 36:34

Yeah, yeah.

August Gitshlag 36:35

Yeah, that that's pretty safe.

SPEAKER_03 36:36

Yeah, it's I can spend$30 in better places.

unknown 36:40

Yeah.

August Gitshlag 36:41

Yeah, what was that was$30? Yeah. You know, tycoons. Or players. That's top shelf at Tycoons. No, that's the door entry fee.

SPEAKER_08 36:50

I'd like to door entry fee.

unknown 36:52

Yeah.

August Gitshlag 36:52

So get in the legends. I don't know that I would marry fuck kill any of these.

Matt Fox 36:57

I mean, I that's a solid I would, I would, I would never, I would never screw around with this. I would never marry this. I would I would never play with this at all. I'd kill it. Bullshit. I know the women you've been with. Oh. Two of them.

SPEAKER_07 37:11

You know, two. No, I don't actually. I was a show. Come on. You know, I don't really know that. I'm sorry, man. I'm on you.

August Gitshlag 37:17

Wow. I remember you in college. That's not true. Okay. I did.

Jamie Flanagan 37:22

Somebody's off the Christmas card list. August doesn't get to come to the barbecue this summer. Oh, you're coming.

August Gitshlag 37:31

The barbecue we've never had. You gotta get your talk about for the last seven years and never had.

SPEAKER_05 37:37

What is the occasion of this barbecue?

August Gitshlag 37:38

We're gonna have a barbecue sauce off in someone's yard. Really?

Matt Fox 37:44

It's gonna be a bourbon fused barbecue.

August Gitshlag 37:46

Nice. So you can't participate. You can judge. You're a judge. No, yeah. If anything, where is a judge? You can be wild card. No, you know, he should be a judge. He's uh he's that good at it.

Jamie Flanagan 37:55

No, he can have it's between us three. Everybody, everybody gets the same type of chicken breast.

Matt Fox 38:01

And then from there, you gotta you you gotta have you know clean. So, what should we start with? Should we have a blank slip?

Jamie Flanagan 38:10

Should we do a pork chop? What should we do as ribs? As the meat was I would do ribs.

August Gitshlag 38:15

I I think pork chops and pork steaks is a great idea. A pork steak, you know, a pork steak.

SPEAKER_03 38:19

You've got a barbecue. Everybody does the same thing to the to the pork steak. Yeah, no, everybody gets a pork steak, and then add your sauce.

August Gitshlag 38:27

Everybody gets the same pork steak. Yeah, well, I'll go up to Hefflingers and get some of those.

SPEAKER_03 38:32

I thought we were just you get the raw meat. I thought you were comparing sauces here because you and me, yes, you and me.

Jamie Flanagan 38:41

So so so the they have to be done exactly the same.

Matt Fox 38:45

For comparison, barbecue, we're gonna make our own sauce now, yeah.

Jamie Flanagan 38:49

Now, yeah. The thing is, it's uh it's a party on the on the deck with with the a gas grill. So if you want to cook in the grass grill or in the gas oven inside, that's your call.

August Gitshlag 39:03

I think that's why you shouldn't put that on the table. Now I feel like we have to have a neutral cook.

Jamie Flanagan 39:09

No, just one batch on the grill. But it's a gas grill, it's a gas that's fine. I never put all three, and you just put a flag in the back. Oh, I'm gonna smoke it for 10 weeks before no no no no no no.

August Gitshlag 39:19

I think I'll go to like Hefflingers, get a bunch of their inch thick Del Monaco pork steaks that are like all the same. That's what they call them. They're inch thick, and they're I know you're used to being what in your past life?

Jamie Flanagan 39:29

A whole different world. I'm going to Walmart. I'm buying I'm buying some boneless chicken. I'm not cooking right from Walmart. I'm a union guy. I'm buying food-like substance chicken breasts.

Matt Fox 39:42

You mean that bioengineered bullshit that's going on over there?

Jamie Flanagan 39:45

I like it's just cheese. It's a cheese-like food substance. Well, all the cr all that stuff is cheese food. And what's a cheese food substance? Yeah. All right, anyway. And what does this? So would you rather on the bait on the base of that? Do we want to start with a based chicken or based pork steak? Or like the pork steak. I was gonna I was gonna say chicken breast, a boneless, skinless.

SPEAKER_03 40:05

I wouldn't do boneless, skinless if I was you. Bonel skinless is a boring palette there is. Yeah, that's the whole idea. They're not dry ass.

Jamie Flanagan 40:14

We want to fuck with the sauce, and then you you gotta make magic from from that.

August Gitshlag 40:18

Then do it, I guess.

Jamie Flanagan 40:19

From orphan bottled bourbons. Orphan bottled bourbons. Right. So, all right, do we want to start with pork steak, right? Like, and they get like two pork steaks each. And do we want to get the pork steak from the same spot?

Matt Fox 40:32

Or we just no no.

Jamie Flanagan 40:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_05 40:34

If this is gonna be a contest, we yeah, that it all has to be a play. The steak itself has to be the same. It has to be the NASCAR.

August Gitshlag 40:40

Yeah, it has to be the NASCAR stock car.

Jamie Flanagan 40:43

It has to be the NASCAR, and then from there, the raw meat, and then cook it. Do you want to do, you know, I we got I got a gas grill available. So do I. If you want to go do the charcoal and bring your little charcoal igloo, nope, bring it.

August Gitshlag 41:00

As long as we're spending a whole lot of time for like the third time talking about something we're never gonna fucking do.

Matt Fox 41:04

Okay, never say never. Goodies, never say die.

Jamie Flanagan 41:09

We're doing it.

SPEAKER_05 41:11

Matt, yeah, actually, this is the first time I've heard this come up. So just to be fair, okay.

Jamie Flanagan 41:16

Matt and I grilled and played records on turntables on my patio for a podcast. Oh, yeah. So don't say no, it won't happen. We brought we brought out a turntable, there's and they're playing records of songs, a hot tub and a and a bath got involved. We were pairing songs and and and drinks. We were, or songs and bourbons, songs and bourbon. And and so, yeah.

Barbecue Sauce-Off And Grill Talk

August Gitshlag 41:39

So we were that's like a drunken shit show. Oh, it was. It was of course. That tastes so much better to the pretenders than Elvis Costello.

Matt Fox 41:47

Was that a Joe Lewis bourbon episode?

Jamie Flanagan 41:51

Some of the most fun we've ever had. And and and the irony was we didn't do Joe Lewis bourbon for any of our drinks. No, we didn't, and they still owe us$340. Please send it now. Yeah, podcast.

Matt Fox 42:01

I just drove by Joe Lewis's Southern Kitchen on Saturday. We drove Woodward from downtown all the way down to the Royal Oak, and I'm driving down and uh we're almost into Highland Park, and I'm like, oh, just watch out. Here we go. Roll them up.

Jamie Flanagan 42:15

Oh no, Highland Park, man. You don't want to play around in Highland Park. Absolutely. Here's why you don't want to play around in Highland Park because the cops, you're supposed to drive 25 miles an hour through Highland Park. Yeah, the cops are just looking to pull you over.

August Gitshlag 42:26

But they're also all part-time, yeah. Yeah, so if you look like you're mean, they drive away.

SPEAKER_03 42:34

Everybody at this table screwed, is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah.

Matt Fox 42:36

We're like, yeah, they want you to do 25 and the 35.

Jamie Flanagan 42:39

This guy, this guy, we'll give him a ticket.

Matt Fox 42:41

Yeah, so yeah, anyway. So yeah, it's uh yeah.

Jamie Flanagan 42:45

That was we're doing uh we're doing a I don't know if I don't, yeah.

August Gitshlag 42:48

This wiser's rye, this is gonna stay here in the studio. Yeah, put it up on the shelf for the guys on the shelf. Yeah, put put that hundred proof in the in the cabinet and replace, you know. That yeah, so I got that Evan Williams in the shelf.

Matt Fox 43:02

I got a few samplers from my son-in-law. Do we still want to go there? That's up to you. I can save these. There's no rush.

Jamie Flanagan 43:10

No, let's do it. Let's do it.

August Gitshlag 43:11

Yeah, so my cocktail I'm emptying clean, so I'm still standing. Bring it. You mean you're empty? Yeah, so while he's pouring that, I sent you guys an email today about some prospects. Yes, you did. Some stuff I got on the in the works. So what are those prospects? So last week, Kat and I went to a Red Wings game and I ran into my good, my old pal, I've known forever, Tom Burrell, who owns Tommy's Barn Grove. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, Hey, Tommy Bahama. I have a I have a box here. I have a box. I'm like, really? He goes, Come sit in our box. So he gave me and Kat and her mom and dad seats in his uh they have like one of the loge boxes where you could walk in. It's not like a suite, it's a box. And then the sits seats down below. Everyone there's known each other, they're all season ticket holders, everyone's friends. So he's like, You gotta come, you gotta come by. We got we see. The archaeological digs going down underneath underneath. Really? You're finding that tunnel that goes to the church, the old abolitionist trail, and all that stuff, the underground railroad stuff. He's like, it's still going. Plus, you know, we've been, you know, we're we're survived. Everyone said we'd never survive when the Red Wings moved, and we're doing great. We're we're shuttling, we're moving people to pistons games. Let's just do this. And Tommy's just the nicest guy in the world. He's like, we're not open every Sunday.

Jamie Flanagan 44:21

This is the old Joe Lewis site.

August Gitshlag 44:23

Yeah.

Jamie Flanagan 44:23

Right. Right. Okay. Fair play. Fair play.

August Gitshlag 44:26

And it's it's shaped like a boat inside. If you look at it, it's kind of like the uh like like the salty dog. It's shaped like exactly like the salty dog. No, no, no, no, no, nothing else. We should go to the salt dog. No, the salty dog is definitely the biggest boat on the block. Tommy's is a schooner compared to that.

Jamie Flanagan 44:44

I want to go to the salty dog right now.

unknown 44:45

Okay.

Jamie Flanagan 44:46

All right. Go ahead, go ahead, go, go, go. Tell the story.

August Gitshlag 44:48

Anyway, so he they're closed on they'll only open on Tiger Home Game Sundays. But he said he'll absolutely open up for us on a nine non-Tiger Home Game Sunday and open up the bar, put a bartender in there, and talk to us in case people want to come in and watch the game and talk to us about what's going on. Or we can do a Thursday night. He thinks that's great too. I told you Thursdays and Sundays are our usual spots. We should just make it up that.

Matt Fox 45:10

If he's gonna open up for us, we just just make a a man cave, you know, night of it and just invite all of our friends. Well, it had to be an afternoon.

Jamie Flanagan 45:18

So Barry will be there, Dave will be there.

August Gitshlag 45:20

Or we would do it during a tiger away game. That's a Sunday day game, obviously, because we're all Sunday Day, and then and do that. That would make it worthwhile for him.

Matt Fox 45:28

Make it a man cave event and just do that.

August Gitshlag 45:31

That's that's a thing. Put us up on stage. Uh Lockerhouse. This is my least confident of them because they're their bartender Nikita loves us. They're doing a May the 5th be with you event along with Space Dive. Yeah. And May the 5th be? Yeah. May the 5th. May the 4th. May the 4th. Okay, I was gonna say what? 5th. May the May the 4th. May the 5th. May the 4th be with you. Yeah. Yeah. I actually haven't watched that show. I gotta watch uh Maul. Maul, yeah, me too. Shadow Mall. Yeah. I haven't watched it yet. I don't know it. Easy there, Voltron. Okay. Okay. Anyway. Uh, but Lagerhouse 5 has that German pop-up in it too. So the Deutsch Detroit.

SPEAKER_03 46:10

Loggerhouse 5. That is a cool space.

August Gitshlag 46:11

It is a really great space. And the owner's a Detroit Firefighter. Uh still active, I believe. And he just makes beer on his days off and runs by. That's his thing. It's all full of EMS and Detroit Firefighter guy. It's a really cool scene. The Lagerhouse. It's right there by the right by the where the Kobo used to be, right? It's funny. We were uh that's Tommy's. Oh, that's Tommy. Okay. Lagerhouse 5 is in Easter Market. Right by Easter Market Vintage. Thank you. Oh, Lagerhouse 5 is Lagerhouse 5 in Easter Market. Not Lagerhouse. Lagerhouse 5. Lagerhouse.

Jamie Flanagan 46:36

It's a are they a brewery?

August Gitshlag 46:38

Are they affiliated? No. Nope. It's Lagerhouse and it's a the it's a it's got the five.

Jamie Flanagan 46:46

Okay, fair play.

August Gitshlag 46:47

Fair play. Fair play. Yeah. So it's an open air in the Easter market. Great five. I know nothing about that. Great five.

SPEAKER_05 46:54

Slaughterhouse five. No.

SPEAKER_03 46:55

That's a little different.

Jamie Flanagan 46:56

Yeah. And House of L Shakers. Vonnegut will be there reading some poetry. That would be great. Should we go read some poetry? Yes. Let's do it. Yeah, that's hard to do.

August Gitshlag 47:05

That's what I want. A drunken Irish poetry slam.

SPEAKER_07 47:09

Yeah, let's go. I'm going to read some Shell Silverstein to you.

Matt Fox 47:14

Sarah Cynthia Sylvia Stout would not take the garbage out.

August Gitshlag 47:17

Oh, she walks in. Read the next stanza, will you? I think Burns was actually Scottish, wasn't he? I'm quite Scottish. Yeah, okay, my bad.

Matt Fox 47:29

Mine being eaten by a boa constrictor.

August Gitshlag 47:33

That's a good that's a good choice, obviously. Then there's cannons. They want us to feature their bunch. They want us to do their brunch. They want to do a Saturday, Sunday brunch. My good lord. Beautiful broom. But he's done there. The amount of money he's put into that place is insane. We still have Gusling Alley just waiting, waiting for us to pull the trigger. To take a couple more emails than usual to get it done.

Jamie Flanagan 47:57

It does stuff there all the time. Thank you.

August Gitshlag 48:04

Thanks.

Matt Fox 48:10

I really don't know what just happened there.

SPEAKER_03 48:11

I don't know what to say.

Matt Fox 48:14

To repeat rim hole or lick the plate is what he said.

August Gitshlag 48:20

We're never getting recommended on Meta ever again, thanks to you. Oh my god. Could I please have both?

Jamie Flanagan 48:25

Yeah. Oh. That is what throwing a finger bang and then we're all there, right? Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_04 48:34

Making an Irish finger bang.

August Gitshlag 48:37

What is it? You gotta put French fries in your ass?

Jamie Flanagan 48:46

So my mom.

SPEAKER_07 48:50

Lastly follow up with my mom.

SPEAKER_05 48:52

You're bringing up his mom. Wait, wait, Jamie's bringing up his mom right after that?

Detroit Venue Plans And Arcade Dream

August Gitshlag 48:55

Fulling warehouse put in a vintage arcade. It's really cool, and they want us to do a podcast from their vintage arcade. It's so cool. They got Donkey Kong, right? They do. They have Rampage. They have so many cool. Oh shoot. What do they used to play? Robotron? Everything.

SPEAKER_04 49:11

Dragon's Lair? Yes. Oh, yes. Oh, now we're talking.

SPEAKER_05 49:15

I used to get through.

SPEAKER_04 49:16

I used to draw a crowd with that one. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_05 49:18

You're good at that? Not to boast. No job. Yeah, all right.

Jamie Flanagan 49:20

I think we have a dance off between Dave and Matt on uh Dragon's Dragon's Lair. Dragon's Lair.

August Gitshlag 49:27

Oh your reflexes are. What are you doing? Good, man. They also have that Dance Dance Revolution, the first one. You dance on the board.

Jamie Flanagan 49:37

Here's the thing. They gotta play Dance Dance Revolution while playing Dragon's Lair.

August Gitshlag 49:42

While the original other hand Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game from the 90s, which I loved. Oh, that game is awesome. They have the Street Fighters, your Mortal Kombat, all those are nice.

SPEAKER_03 49:54

Oh, you get Do they have Tempest?

August Gitshlag 49:57

Sounds like they do. Sounds right. Sounds good. I just hear Tempest is just like you hear the word.

Jamie Flanagan 50:04

I'm all about the caterpillars.

August Gitshlag 50:05

Alright, now back to Jamie's mom.

Jamie Flanagan 50:09

I forget where I was going with that. He's hundred years old. There was comedy. There was comedy in there somewhere.

SPEAKER_05 50:16

So so real quick, Matt, what are we drinking? Because you just poured the sample. I don't know if I watch it. Put it back in the bottle. We'll save it for next time.

Matt Fox 50:23

No, I'm I'm in this is the bad. I'm sorry. My uh my son-in-law shared with me a number of samples when I was visiting last week. And this is Maker's Mark Cellar Aged.

SPEAKER_05 50:33

I was just gonna say, this is the best one of the night. Spicy 113, 112.9, 112.9.

Jamie Flanagan 50:38

112 of it. It's a meatball. I was gonna say spicy, yeah.

Matt Fox 50:41

But I think we all have makers, we all enjoy makers.

Jamie Flanagan 50:45

Oh, yeah, that's good.

Matt Fox 50:46

But but ripping my tongue. But this is one that none of us have ever had before.

SPEAKER_03 50:49

No, this is this is I want a bottle of this. That you know everything. You can run my car on that. Jamie, when you mentioned things being thin and being weak, this is not any of this is full, it's it's a lot, it's hitting your roof, it's hitting your nostrils, it's hitting molars.

August Gitshlag 51:07

So much for my uh allergy issues, all the pollen in my system is now dead.

Matt Fox 51:11

You're welcome.

August Gitshlag 51:11

Yes, yeah, yeah.

Matt Fox 51:12

Yeah, but uh yeah, he shared this with me, and I I'm very thank you for sharing that with us. Yeah, oh and he used to fire that apples bottle.

Jamie Flanagan 51:21

Yeah, thank you for sharing that with us.

Matt Fox 51:23

You're welcome.

August Gitshlag 51:25

I'm gonna start.

Matt Fox 51:26

So we have a so what what just to recap, we've got a lot going on coming up once it gets scheduled. So stick with us and you know, look for the events, join us at the events. You are welcome. Anyone's welcome to come to these events, especially when we're off. Anyone?

Jamie Flanagan 51:42

Here's the thing in studio, pretty much just send us a text, we'll give you the door code.

August Gitshlag 51:46

Come on in. Yeah, I I I you know today's Tulio's birthday. I uh sent them an MF and text because they went to uh was it two, three days ago? No, the party was on Saturday. Uh they went to uh Lenny's, the old post east, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where they used to hang out a lot as kids, you know.

SPEAKER_08 52:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

August Gitshlag 52:02

When I was there the whole time, and I'm like, yeah, again, once again, thanks for the text, butthole. But uh, I sent them this year's this year's happy birthday text with me and Ryan Reynolds and Britney Spears. There you go. I'll sing happy birthday. Very nice. Happy birthday, Tullio.

SPEAKER_03 52:17

Yeah, just got an alert. Jamie Ding won again on Jeopardy.

August Gitshlag 52:21

Your kid is rolling.

Matt Fox 52:23

He is what is that 45 in a row now?

August Gitshlag 52:25

That's three weeks, right? Three or four weeks.

SPEAKER_03 52:28

Yeah, he's maybe making some bank.

Matt Fox 52:30

Do you know that? Do you know that fella?

SPEAKER_03 52:31

He was one of my students. Oh my nice fantastic.

August Gitshlag 52:34

Taught him everything he knows.

SPEAKER_03 52:35

Yeah, sure. Jeopardy is over. Why are we still Jeopardy's?

Jamie Flanagan 52:42

Why are we still awake if Jeopardy is still over? All right, never mind. What? What what anyway? Hi, cheers.

SPEAKER_03 52:49

Cheers.

Matt Fox 52:49

Hey, fellas. Well, we'll talk about your your fella next week because he'll still be winning. I'm sure that's great.

SPEAKER_03 52:55

I wouldn't doubt it. I really gotta hope so. I gotta nice.

Maker’s Mark Cellar Aged Wrap

Matt Fox 52:59

But thanks for sharing, fellas. That was that was a lot. This is a heck of a of a of a B list B list of a show, right?

SPEAKER_05 53:09

Except for this just last one that Matt brought.

August Gitshlag 53:11

Well, that was a that was also a kick in the dick.

SPEAKER_03 53:13

Well, there's that wiser's riot is sort of like Kathy Griffin of uh you want to be headed, D-listed D-list.

Matt Fox 53:20

No, you just remake it. You just remake it in your own image. That's what I guess.

August Gitshlag 53:24

It's the only one here without a cork. It wasn't expecting much, yeah. Right. Yeah, all right.

Jamie Flanagan 53:28

Cheers, gentlemen, all the podcast things, August Kitchlag over there.

August Gitshlag 53:33

Matt Fox next to me. Cheers. Cheers, cheers, Barry Malson next to me.

Matt Fox 53:38

Yep, and then David Wright way over there.

SPEAKER_05 53:41

And and you guys, if you want to just hop over or stay on the podcast your voice site if you're there, because we're doing a podcast right after this.

August Gitshlag 53:47

Oh, that's right. There it is. Plug my own self. I forgot about that. There will be more of the motorcycle. I've never been on the Motor City Hypnotist before.

SPEAKER_05 53:53

Oh, you should come. You should come on an episode.

August Gitshlag 53:54

Are you gonna make me not eat eat potato chips?

SPEAKER_05 53:56

Yeah, I'll please join us.

August Gitshlag 53:58

All right, I'm gonna go grab a bag right now. See if you can convince me not to.