Road To Redemption
Road To Redemption
John Farrow Faith, Tithing, And Building A Legacy That Lasts - Audio Version
What if the smallest act of obedience reframed your whole future? That’s the thread running through this conversation with builder and developer John Farrow, whose story moves from a jar of coins on an altar to a nationwide portfolio built on excellence, generosity, and steady trust. We open with the move to Destin and the discovery of a church that prizes small groups and service, then follow the practical habits that anchor his life: daily Scripture, prayer, and a bias for action that pairs faith with work.
John unpacks the “trash enclosure” moment that changed his trajectory—a minor job others dismissed that he completed with uncommon care. Corporate noticed, phones rang, and the door cracked open to large-scale hospitality and resort work. The lesson is specific and repeatable: do the small things in excellence, give first, and let your reputation carry across rooms you haven’t entered yet. From there, we get personal about business choices, including the costly errors of jumping into deals without prayer or partnering where values didn’t align. Matthew 6:33 sits over his company culture—seek first the Kingdom and the right way of doing things—and acts as a filter for opportunities, hiring, and growth.
Community keeps the engine running. John describes a vibrant network of men’s groups, mentoring, and new believers hungry to learn how to pray, serve, and lead. He shares the funnel image of spiritual formation: life starts wide and noisy, then narrows as conviction grows, habits strengthen, and character hardens in the right direction. We talk about the discipline of yielding—choosing peace over retaliation—and why forgiveness is a strategic decision that preserves focus and opens better doors. For anyone feeling stuck or skeptical, we outline actionable steps: read Scripture daily, pray morning and night, join a Christ-centered church, find a small group, give what you can, and work with excellence—especially when a task seems beneath you.
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Welcome. I'm John Martin, your host. So excited to be here today with my good friend John Farrow. John, how are you, sir? Doing well. Good morning, John. I'm so excited to have you here. I'm just so blessed to know you, and we have a lot of mutual friends. And just the other day, I was so blessed to be with you over at the at the church, Desi Worship Center, and that that glass classroom. And I got to hear you share your story, and I was just like, wow, we've got to have our listening audience hear this this testimony from John Farrow. So, John, just start off. Tell us a little bit about your background.
SPEAKER_00:So I am a recent transplant five years ago to Destin. Immediately we found Destiny, and this is our church. I can't tell you how blessed we are to be involved with such an amazing church of excellence. And everywhere you look in that church, it's excellence, right? From the time you walk in to the greeters, to your safety team, to the people who help out in all of capacity, even getting your cup of coffee, it's just done in excellence. Everything is clean, everything is welcoming. You know, I find myself at church not just on Sundays, right? But uh sometimes on Mondays and definitely on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and Thursdays, and and you know, the church is open. And so um coming from um moving out from the West Coast, I say escaping because uh, you know, the taxes and the politics weren't quite what we wanted, and not to get into that today, but really being home. We really just got here, uh, my wife and three children, um, who are grown children now that work with us, uh, just to be able to come into an area that is paradise. And you know, we look around and sometimes we see the traffic, and and this isn't really traffic on 98, even in the hard times. And we're so blessed because coming from uh Northern California and areas like that, you know, you could sit in two and a half to three hours of traffic and we complain when we have to go five miles. And I just say, we live in paradise here. And the reason why there's traffic is because so many people want to be here. So just blessed to be here and really just got in and dug in, um, became members early, um, you know, volunteered, have done a number of things in the church and and just want to serve. I'm at that time in my life where I have uh the opportunity to serve. I am busy in my businesses. I run uh a few companies, and in doing so, that takes up a lot of my time. But I really think what's most important is spending time with God and doing life with with other men and women who are Christians. And I, you know, um I just really believe in the philosophy of building lives and of creating relationships and doing life. I I love a church that focuses on small groups. I'm involved in many small groups, as we all are, but you find that that those small groups are your fellowships with your friends, with um with people that you really get close to. You get to pray with them, you get to cry with them, you get to lift them up, they get to lift you up. Iron sharpens iron. And so this church is very unique, and we're we're humbled, and we're so grateful to be part of it.
SPEAKER_01:Wow. Well, and and you've you're a very successful businessman, you have a construction company, you do development, all the and and and people see you and and and they see a successful businessman, but but but I know it wasn't always that easy. You've walked through some tough trials, you you were very transparent about that when you were in California. You want to share a little bit about that part of your story?
SPEAKER_00:Sure, and I will say this um the success isn't my doing, it's God's. And I I have to start by giving God the glory because um without God, none of what we do would have happened. Um, it starts with God and it ends with God, and everything in between is God's blessing. We all have gifts, right, John? We all have the opportunity, some are in ministry and some are in in uh uh other forms of service and some are in in being blessed. God um chose us to be blessed to be a blessing. And you're right, it hasn't always been um, you know, successful. Uh and even now, even in the successful times, the trials still come, the tests still come, the challenges still come. Um I've had several business opportunities and relationships here, even with people who you know you think may be a good fit, but God tends to cull and prune. And for us, I've gone through some really, even here, some tough challenges that we thought were the next level of what we would do, even praying and saying, God, I can't wait for this business to go like I believe it's going to, because the tithe alone on that, oh boy, the enemy hates when you say that. The enemy will come. We know in John 10, 10, we know that the enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy. But we know what the other side of that is. So the challenges in California, yeah, we're tough. The challenges are still here, it's just different levels, right? And I think that that goes to our faith as well. So, what level of faith do we have? At what level are we ready? And we'll talk hopefully about that a little bit more. But really, going back to California, um, there was a time in in our young lives, my wife and I, when we had just had our first daughter, and I was working with a group, and that project and that group came to an end. And we had just bought our first farm house together, and uh I no longer had a job. And my wife was a stay-at-home mom taking care of our first daughter, and I'm sitting looking out, going, Okay, Lord, here we go. Um, we had uh we'd used our money to buy the house, so we had no money left. Um, we basically uh, you know, we were expecting to live paycheck to paycheck through this this entity, but this entity had dried up, and so here I am, sitting out in the field, looking out into the heavens, going, okay, Lord, where do we go from here? And it hit me that the widows might, as we remember that story in the Bible, where, you know, you can't outgive God. So, so it hit me instantly. We've got to give. We're at a place where financially we don't know how we're gonna eat top ramen, let alone pay our mortgage, our bills, take care of our newborn, and be able to succeed. And and I went inside and I talked to my wife, and I said, I said, honey, I said, Lord in imprinted on me that we need to plant some seed. And she said, Okay, well, what do we need to do? And I said, Well, we've been saving a Quaker oats jar full of change for a long time. She goes, Yeah, I remember, here it is in the kitchen. So one of those old Quaker cardboard jars, and it was full of change, all the way up to the top, probably a couple hundred dollars. And I said, I said, Well, we could go and we could wrap this in coins and we take it to the bank and we could get maybe a couple of hundred dollars for it, or we could do what we're supposed to do, and that's give it to God. So she was in agreement because it our faith is pretty strong together, as you know, where two or more are gathered. So um, so we said, okay, and we we provided that. We we brought that before the altar to the church, and it was a really it was a humbling and emotional experience because that was it, right? Now you have to trust God because He's got it all. And it's like, okay, Lord, you have it all. And the next morning I get a phone call, and it's a call that I don't know, but I pick it up and I go, hi, this is John, and they say, John, are you the guy that built that trash enclosure? And I said, Yes. And they said, We want to talk to you. Well, the story about the trash enclosure is that um a large contractor didn't want to be bothered on a big uh timeshare resort to do a small trash enclosure. And he calls me and goes, I don't have time for this. So we said, we'll do it, because you know, it was a little project. So we had built this trash enclosure as part of this other entity, and uh we did it with excellence. We did it with CMU block and louvered aluminum doors and a trellis, and it was just a beautiful trash enclosure. And apparently um corporate had got a hold of it and said, Who'd built this? And the the the big contractor said, Well, I didn't have time for that, I just gave it to some guy. And they said, Well, who was that guy? I would like to talk to him. So they called me and they said, Do you want to do some work? And I went, Yes. I said, Thank you, Jesus. I said, Yeah, I'll do whatever you want, you know, thinking it's gonna be one small thing or whatever. And they said, Well, can you mobilize a crew and get up to Oregon? I said, Yes, I can. They said, Okay, we have a large project for you. And I went, That's God. That's God, that's God, that's our obedience to trust him with what was left. And from that moment on, they said, Because of your excellence, you were giving me all this work. And it's just today it's still. I just get emotional because I know that's God, right? I know it and I know it without a shadow of a doubt. And God used that moment not only as a testimony, because years later I was able to share that with a big group and write a white paper called From Trash to Treasure just on something and that obedience, and it was within 24 hours. Now, I I don't look at God as Santa Claus or a genie. Uh I look at God as faithful to those who are faithful, and we were obedient. And because of our obedience, God opened the door and said, I'm gonna use this as a testimony. Look at this. I mean, this is 30 years later, and we are talking about that moment that changed everything from there. God continued to increase. This led to working with World Mark and Wyndham nationwide in timeshare and resort and hospitality and hotels and renovations and big work all across the country, getting licensed all across the country, working in New York and working in Arizona and working in Nevada and working in all these awesome places because of the obedience to not only do something in excellence, but also be faithful to that small tithe. And so the encouragement that I always do is number one, when there is a call and when there's an ask, I pray with my wife about it. And if it ministers to us, she'll go, What do you think we should give? And if the number that I have in my heart matches up with hers, which it always does, because it's God, we give. And and I'll go back to this that even in the hard times, even in tough times here now, you cannot outgift God. You cannot. God's increase in tough times. You know what you do when you have nothing? You give. Yes. You give. To get it to you, you have to get it through you. And this isn't um, this isn't a lottery ticket where you say, I'm gonna pay in or I'm gonna, I'm gonna play the slot machines. This isn't gambling. This is God's word. And it's evident all throughout God's word about what his promise is. And I will share that with you as we go a little bit longer, but that's this the beginning of the testimony, and God continues to this day to use us to be a blessing, both to the church and to those outside of the church, through not only tithes, but also offerings, because it's not just about the tithe, the 10%. The word tells us that it's first fruits. And I can remember when we had that farm, our first farm, when we started to get our increase, we had a garden. We would actually take fruit and vegetables out of the garden, our first fruits, and we would, we would, we would give them to the church because that's scriptural, right? And it and it what it's not about it's not about the amount, it's about the heart, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, and it's it's I think John, it's it's about trust. God is wanting to really see, do we trust him? You know, in situations of financial crises that we we all tend to have in our life, the health, um, you know, prayer, time. I mean, it's it's it's also our time and our prayer that he wants. You know, he wants to see will he we give him the time, will we take a day of rest, you know, a Sabbath day, as we talked about recently, and trust that he's gonna provide for us, you know. That rest is for us, it's not for him. You know, he gives us as a as a gift. But but but it's just it's about trust, I think. You know, do we really trust him in these these times in our life? Well, talk to us now a little bit, John, about just what God's doing in you and your family's life today.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Um, but I gotta pile on what you said because trust absolutely, but I'll tell you what's been ministering a lot to me and what is coming out in these small groups that I'm in. It's faith. It's faith and the why behind faith, and it's how we do our life, because we know about faith, we understand faith. Faith is a biblical principle, it's a life principle, it's a way of honoring God through trusting Him. We know that we as Christians, foundationally, faith is so key. Last night, even in one of the groups, I'm involved in a couple of groups on Tuesday, um, and you know, we talk about faith, but we also talk about works, right? So having faith and expecting a stork to drop a bag of gold on your on your doorstep isn't really the way that God has it intended for us, right? So God has it intended more about having faith, but also works, because faith without works is dead, right? So you have to do something. Having faith is great, but if God has given you the gifts and talents and abilities, which we we learn about all throughout the Word, you have to do something. So you have to be, you have to be intentional. So being intentional in faith, and so I love that you said trust, and we're learning all about it now. And um, you know, I I uh to talk about my business a little bit, because because you had asked, um, you know, we are general contractors locally and national. We're certified general contractors, so we are licensed to build anything. Um, this is a niche market that we started about four years ago, really, because my daughter had was working as she graduated from college, she was working for a um a medical group, and she said, Dad, I just don't feel fulfilled. I don't feel like I'm making a difference, like I'm impacting lives. I said, Okay, honey, do you want to impact lives? She said, Yeah. I said, How about working with me? And she's like, Well, I don't know, how does that impact lives? I said, Well, we build a lot of houses, right? And she goes, Yeah. I go, think about most families' number one largest investment. It's their home. Think about first-time home buyers who have been renting and now have the opportunity to purchase their first home. Think about the legacy that they can leave leave and the memories with their families and the years that they get to see their children grow up in the house and that and the memories and playing in the backyard and going for walks. And I said, I said, that's the difference you're looking for. And she said, Yeah. So we started a small division and it's kind of just blown up. God, thank you, it's all his anyway. Um, you know, and and I wanted to really honor God as this as this company grew. We have a development company, we um we work in some software, uh, we have a uh a painting division, uh, we have uh uh a fortified concrete division. We have just got um uh certified for through Sam.gov so we can work with military and and and uh the Department of Justice now, DOJ. So so we're kind of just uh organically scaling through what God wants to do to continue to increase and my children being able to work for me, I get to leave that legacy and that inheritance according to the word of God, which is leave a legacy for your children's children. Train them up in the ways that they should go. So I'm getting a chance to train them up, but not in a coddling way, right? I mean, you have to think about it. It has to be organically, but they also have to skin their knees and fall. One of the things that I learned, and my father taught me that I resented so much is he could have bought me my first car or helped me with my first house or helped me kind of in business, but he didn't do that. And I resented him for a long time. And one day I came to him and I said, Dad, I said, I respect you because you taught me the most valuable, and that's to work hard and to trust God and to do it on your own. And so I've let my children follow that same example. Sure, I'm there, of course, of course, I'm I'm I'm not gonna leave them ever, like my father would never leave me or forsake me. But to but to have that and to be able to see these kids growing up, and that's why we built this division. Well, the division is growing. So we've been blessed with the opportunity to have our own building now. And so we've we've been able to buy a building, and and I said, okay, how can I glorify God? Because it's all his, right? John, come on. This is everything is God's, right? The minute you start thinking it's you is the minute God tumbles you and puts you down and says, okay, get back up again, let's go. And and and it's not that he's a punishing God, but we sometimes get out over our skis, right? So um I I said, I want to put a scripture where every person who walks into this building knows it's God, it's his building. And um I said, okay, Lord, what is that scripture gonna be? And there were many because God gives so many scriptures, and Matthew 6 started to well up inside of my of my spirit, and you know, uh Matthew 6, 25, and going through and and how God sees us and how he views us and how he, you know, protects us, and you know, talks about the lilies and how they don't toil and how beautiful they are, and even more than Solomon. And I said, What is the scripture, Lord? And and he gave me Matthew 6.33. Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all of these things will be added unto you. And righteousness defined is the right way of doing things. So the purpose of honoring God through righteousness and through doing it his way, not our way, and giving God all the honor and the glory allows him to take the obedience of that and bring increase that becomes a blessing to others. The thing that I would say to the viewers is trust God, have faith in God, get involved in the church, get involved in small groups, do life. It's so funny. Last night in our second um uh uh spiritual uh sons of God is our is our group, and there's some mighty men, Charles Musgrove and and and and and and Dexter are uh our teachers and our leaders, and we have some young men, and these young men are hungry, but they're like, Well, how do we pray? Well, you pray at night before you go to bed. I told them my prayer is forgive me, Father, for the sins and my sins, both known and unknown. I repent of them and ask what I can do for you. And I said, I pray that at night and I pray that in the morning, along with Psalms and some other prayers, and so we start talking. I said, roll out of your knees, roll out of bed onto your knees. Um, a famous preacher one time said, put your slippers so far under the bed that you have to get on your knees to be able to pull them out. And while you're there, pray. So, so to be able to be involved in that and see for our listeners and our viewers here, get involved, get into a group, and then get hungry. So these kids are so hungry, these young men, we're seeing a revival in our in our country right now. Young men, that it's it's exponential. It's like 46% more are coming to Christ and coming to church. And I'm seeing all these young, young 20s and they're hungry. Well, we don't know how to pray. Well, you're in the right place. Well, what else do we do? Do life. Well, I'm finding I deleted all my podcasts of all the secular music. I said, that's fantastic. I said, I said, your faith and your walk with God is like a funnel. I said you start out here in this big funnel and you've got sin around you, and you're doing things and you're listening to things and you're going places you shouldn't and you're doing things you shouldn't. But as you get closer to God and as you start doing life, this funnel tightens up and it tightens up and it gets smaller and smaller to the point where you're you're refined, you're changed, you're rearranged, you're closer to God, you're walking that narrow path of life. And these guys are hungry, so hungry that that these mighty men, Charles and Dexter, they talk every day and we get we get you know alerts on our you know on our phones, on our group man, we're you know, we're going back and forth. But they felt the intent so strongly in them and the unction, the nudge so strongly that they're actually starting a group on Saturday mornings just for young men to teach them principles of how to become a stronger and a better Christian. And we know in life, and these were unbelievers who just became believers, right? We know that these believers then become disciples. We know that those disciples then become leaders. And when we get to our stage, praise God, we get to be servants. So it's a full circle, right? And so for me, I'd rather talk about how we can make an impact on our younger generation and how we can encourage them that this is the right path and that God blesses obedience and that God blesses the faithful, and that through our trust and through our obedience to God, we are able to be used as vessels, as witnesses, through testimony, through our walk with life. What's your walk look like? Well, how how often are you doing God's work? How often are you doing life? Right. Uh Mondays, I'm in, I'm doing a group. Two on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, we've got two. We do ROI, we unpack it Fridays, you know. My only day to actually go out and be on my farm is Saturdays and then back to church on Sunday. But you know what? That's not an obligation. That's an opportunity. That's a blessing, and that's something that once you start getting hungry for it, it's hard to stop. So I encourage the viewers to seek God, seek his kingdom, seek the right way of doing things, and see what God will do in your life.
SPEAKER_01:Amen. Well, and a lot of people out there are just asking, how do I get started? You know, like I'm I feel hopeless. There's a lot of problems in this world. And what we encourage you to do on this show is to first get into the Word of God. Get up every morning and open, get a Bible. If you don't have a Bible, get it's on every phone, and start reading the Word of God every day. Give Him at least 15 minutes in the morning and spend time with Him and read the Bible and pray. And and ask God, Jesus, to come into your heart. And and then is to get into a Christ-centered church. And and go. Just go to church. So you'll never find the perfect church, but go. And and and just God will meet you there. And He will bless you, and then get into a small group. Like John is in so many. And and and get into a group, and most every church will have one. A group that you can be vulnerable with, make you know, people help make you accountable, and and and God will really start coming into your life and blessing you as you've seen, John. Um you know, because it because not every area, we we're blessed with you know, here in Northwest Florida, all these groups, and we're really blessed, and our desire is to see this all throughout the country. You know, uh people going to church and getting into small groups. Um but but as we kind of come towards the end of our show today, what else is on your heart to share, you know, with with with folks that are listening out there that are, you know, it's it's it's a challenge for people in business and families and and and you know, you really walk with the light of Christ. You you are walking in abundance. We know God wants that for everyone. What else do you have on your heart to share before we go today?
SPEAKER_00:Read the word, as you said. Every answer that you can find, you can find in the word of God. You know, I have Bibles, but I use this all the time now. And the reason I use this is because what would take me through a concordance, 10 minutes to find, or 15 minutes, I can find in five seconds. I can literally type in my need. And there's an answer for everything. There's an answer for lack, there's an answer for pain, there's an answer for sickness and disease, there's an answer for hardship, for anger, for sorrow, for lack, there's an answer for those seeking wisdom or knowledge or understanding. God's word is living. It is Jesus. And when we understand that it's more than just a book, when we understand that if we have a need, if we're in lack, if we have troubles, if we have sorrows, if we've had a bad relationship, if we've been hurt in a business deal, the word of God is so specific to whatever that need is. So my encouragement to the audience is get into the word of God and get linked up with another man or woman and allow that iron to sharpen one another. You know, the word tells us in Proverbs that if we rebuke a foolish person or a scoffer, he will hate you. But if we rebuke or counsel a wise man, he will love us the more. And I think that the importance of a faith-based church, a Bible-based church, a word-based church, with with men and women who are of like mind to do life with. The reason why our churches and our group is so successful is because we encourage men and women to do life together. So my encouragement as we round out the show today is seek ye first the kingdom of God, seek the Bible. It's all in there. Every answer to every question you could ever need or want is in the word of God. Let that minister to you marinate, dine with Jesus on that. Marinate on the word of God, let it saturate you, cry, laugh, get angry, but get happy because it's God, right? And God wants us to get closer to Him. He yearns for that. Think how much more as a parent I am, and that I would lay down my life for my children. And think of what God, our Father, did with Jesus, his only son, to give his life for us, for our sins, that would die for us so that we could have everlasting life. That is so powerful. So if you stand on the word of God, if you trust God, as you had said, and if you have faith in God, even of the grain of a mustard seed to say to your challenge, your mountain, be removed and be cast into sea. Mark 11, 23, 24. And you believe that in your heart, and you trust that God will reveal exactly.
SPEAKER_01:So good, John. Wow. Well, one other thing before we go, I wanted to share. You and I, when we talked the other day, um was about taking the time to pray and get godly counsel before we make decisions. You know, because we were talking a little bit about your past and how, you know, we we in the business world of entrepreneurs, we get all these deals coming to us all the time, and you know, we're movers and we're we're we're going fast, and a lot of times, you know, we'll get into a deal and not really take the time to to pray and get with our wife or you know, our small group, or and and sometimes I know in my life, you know, it's it's resulted in mistakes, you know, because I didn't take the time. So anything you can add.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yes, and thank you. And and what you said, I've actually been corrected on multiple times, not only um in previous but recently. Uh two things on that. First off, you're absolutely right. I love deals, I love business. Business is exciting. You know, an opportunity comes up and you go, go, go, you forget to pray. I'm guilty of that. I've done that multiple times here, and and every single time that I have not put God first when I just jumped into it, it has failed. Okay. Every single time, 10 out of 10, let's call it. Um, didn't seek first. I got so out over my skis that I missed the opportunity to pray and to think about it. Here's the other thing that I've missed in a couple of business deals, and I'm so grateful that you brought that. I'm humbled to be able to say this. Sometimes we're unequally yoked in a relationship, and the deal is so good that we don't see it. This happened to me recently in a very, very large deal that had the opportunity to really bring some amazing tithes into the storehouse, into our church, and and be a blessing to that. And I believe that God kept through mighty men sharpening me, correcting me through mighty men going, I'm not, this doesn't feel right. And then the word of God came out, and then and then it was unequally yoked, even though there could be faith-based men and women involved in endeavors, sometimes, even in faith-based, it's not a good fit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know, you you court your wife, you you do um Christian counseling before you get married, you follow the steps to ensure that you're equally yoked. And I look back and I go, God, you absolutely protected me because even if it was a great financial boon and a huge opportunity, if it wasn't done the way that God wanted it, at the end of the day, if if the others didn't agree to a tie the 10% and God's God's what all of it, which is God's money, didn't go back to God, then that would have been in disobedience. And if I wasn't able to be to make a change in that and this went along, we missed the blessing. And I think God wants to correct us. So you I love that you said that, and thank you for saying that, because the remembrance of that is the lesson that even being successful in business, I still make mistakes all the time. And usually it's because I didn't listen to God, didn't seek him first, and was not equally yoked.
SPEAKER_01:You probably didn't ask your wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are the ones that you're not. Yeah, because it's like, oh, you know, hey, you lost money on that deal, hey, you lost money on that deal.
SPEAKER_00:And and I'll I'll I'll I'll say this also the hardest thing and the lesson that I've learned in my life that is the biggest Christian principle in my life that continues to minister and correct me is love those who hate you, give to those who take from you, bless those who curse you. If someone slaps you on the right cheek, offer them the left. If someone takes your robe, give them your tunic. These are the hardest principles because we want to retaliate. We want to get legal. We want we live in a litigious society right now. And God blesses those who yield. I received a book from a mighty man that was about the grace of yielding, and I read through that during one of these challenging times. And it really just gave me the peace of God that passes all understanding to say, I yield, Lord, because I know that it's all yours anyway. And in the natural, it doesn't look great, but in the supernatural, you have something so much better for your kingdom to honor and to glorify and to magnify you, Lord. That's what this is about. That's what it's all about.
SPEAKER_01:It is. Wow, this has been so good. And and John, you you really carry the light of Christ, you carry abundance. Um, I'm so excited to get you on today because you're just just your energy, you know, is for Christ, and and people can see it in you. You don't even have to say anything, you know, it's just it you just you abound with the light of Christ, and people need that today. So thank you for being bold, um, for sharing, for being a great man of God. And I know this is gonna bless a lot of people. Um so I just want to say thank you for coming on, it's been just a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_00:Um I'll say you're welcome, but I'll also say this I'm not perfect. God still deals with me every single day. There's still things that come up that are not where they should be. I love God and I love Jesus and I love the Word and I love the fellowship. But listen, this word of encouragement is to say that I am not perfect, nor will I ever be until I am up in heaven, and even so, you know, humble before God. And I think that we all need to know that there is no perfect man or woman other than Jesus Christ is the perfect man. He is the Son of God, and that is the perfect person. So we still stumble, we still scrape our knees, we still fall, we still make mistakes, we still have to ask forgiveness, is why I prayed at night, and I prayed in the morning, because we are not perfect. And so I'll say thank you for that. Um, and you're welcome for that, but um, just know that uh I am a work, I am still a piece of clay, I'm still getting refined, and I will be till the day that God receives me up in heaven.
SPEAKER_01:Amen. That's been a lot of fun. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Appreciate you, John. Thank you for uh today. I'm I'm honored to be here. I really appreciate it.