Episode 249: Snype Vanishes, Prizm Black Mania & Hobby Market Movement

In Episode 249, Russell and Adam break down a huge week in the hobby.
 Snype — once buzzing with momentum — has quietly disappeared, leaving collectors wondering what happened and what’s next in the “AI grading” rush.

The lads also dive into the latest wave of Prizm Black hype, how scarcity really works when breakers dominate supply, and whether some cards are becoming impossible for collectors to touch.

Plus: a temperature check on the market, a discussion about risk, and honest talk about whether people are chasing cards… or just narratives.

🎧 Listen on Spotify:
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Transcript

00:00:13.02
Adz
Welcome, everybody, to episode 249 the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast, where host Adam, Amy, and Russell Gibson.

00:00:25.32
Russell Gibson
What's up?

00:00:27.60
Adz
249, that's awfully close to what I would call a milestone episode being 250.

00:00:34.74
Russell Gibson
Agreed.

00:00:36.25
Adz
Interesting.

00:00:36.50
Russell Gibson
Not long away. We're just talking off air what we want to do for it. I think the conclusion was nothing.

00:00:43.48
Adz
talk talk took Talk hobby.

00:00:45.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:00:46.36
Adz
Talk hobby. i don't know. maybe Maybe we'll reach out some guests. We'll see what happens. Otherwise, it'd just be us. Celebrating maybe with some fairy bread, cocktail franks, some party pies.

00:00:54.36
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:00:57.14
Russell Gibson
like what we did for 100. Maybe we should do that. Just like go back and look at some of the stuff we did.

00:01:00.34
Adz
Go back.

00:01:02.08
Russell Gibson
and

00:01:02.81
Adz
Yeah. be cool.

00:01:06.98
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. Hope you're well, mate. Hope everyone's well who's at home. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in. This week's show, we're going to talk about a record art sale, which doesn't sound like the hobby, but we're going to try and make that work.

00:01:20.50
Russell Gibson
Collect media reporting on Snipes shut down. We're to talk more about the Beckett data breach. We're going talk about the Toronto Raptors. They are absolutely on fire at the moment. The last time I checked, nine games in a row on the winning streak. I'm going to ask Adam what his biggest hobby regret is.

00:01:39.62
Russell Gibson
We're going to talk some Prism Black this week, in particular Steph Curry, because his sales have been absolutely insane lately. And then we've got a whole bunch of other stuff to run through too, but That's the big boys to start with. So to start off this week, we're going to talk about a piece of art that sold at an auction for $88 million dollars plus fees.

00:02:05.12
Russell Gibson
I'm assuming shipping would have been on top of that too. Yeah.

00:02:09.46
Adz
Yes, probably more than more than likely more than likely.

00:02:10.90
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:02:13.24
Russell Gibson
And so if you're an art connoisseur like myself, so I would call myself a very, very, very low level. Like I like looking at, you know, pretty pictures, but that's all. But I think everybody at home will know what this piece of art is.

00:02:25.58
Russell Gibson
So it's the great wave, the Japanese great wave. It's that super iconic one that everyone's seen, you know, either the actual one or they've seen a, you know, a copy of it or something like that.

00:02:29.30
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:02:36.54
Russell Gibson
And so that recently sold for 88 million.

00:02:37.66
Adz
Yep.

00:02:39.73
Russell Gibson
So what After I saw that come through my news feed, what really got me thinking was Wondershine because I wonder if he sees pieces of art selling like that and he's looking at some of the cards that are selling in the market and thinking to himself, these people don't realize what they've got.

00:02:58.21
Russell Gibson
like These are you know genuine pieces of art and in the future, they're going to be going for these you know insane prices.

00:03:03.35
Adz
Oh, they're relics. they're They're relics.

00:03:04.63
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:03:05.41
Adz
They're antiquities. They they are rare rare rare pieces of history.

00:03:07.21
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:03:11.51
Russell Gibson
And I think he has mentioned about artwork in his spiels at some point, but just seeing that really sort of hit home that concept for me.

00:03:14.82
Adz
Hmm.

00:03:19.45
Russell Gibson
So i thought while I'm introducing one of the cards that should or could be in the Wondershine, why don't you click on the card ladder all-time sales data and see if you can pick up something that you think might be, and I'll run through this and then we'll get Adam's take on this too.

00:03:20.41
Adz
Yeah.

00:03:35.81
Russell Gibson
So For you all folks listening at home, you can Google search the 2003, 2004 Upper Deck Ultimate Collection, Ultimate Logos. That's a lot of ultimates in that sentence.

00:03:52.21
Russell Gibson
Signature, Michael Jordan signed Game Used Logo Man Patch 101. sold for $2,928 June of 2024. it's probably gone up. You might even make an argument half million

00:04:04.54
Russell Gibson
you might even make an argument of half a million since that time, just due to all what's been happening in the super high end stuff in the hobby. I'm going to put this down as a, I'm going to put this into the spreadsheet as a potential Wondershine card, just for the fact that it is a one of one. It's got the logo in it. It's got the one of one handwritten inscription on it. And also that amazing Jordan autograph on it.

00:04:28.98
Russell Gibson
think the other thing about this card too is sometimes it's really difficult to tell, but we've seen some of these high-end cards come through with a bit of damage on them, but this looks pretty clean. It's only graded authentic. It's not graded.

00:04:42.88
Russell Gibson
PSA 8 or 9 or 6 for that matter.

00:04:44.29
Adz
Yeah.

00:04:46.01
Russell Gibson
but

00:04:47.04
Adz
it's ah it's a It's a beautiful looking card though.

00:04:50.42
Russell Gibson
I deliberately put that in for that exact reason though, add because it like taking that back to the artwork thing,

00:04:55.91
Adz
Yeah.

00:04:58.52
Russell Gibson
in very small instances, i I can actually see how he could be making that connection into his head. We're going to talk about some of the manga cards later on.

00:05:04.66
Adz
Yeah.

00:05:06.36
Russell Gibson
I think that's like a a much low lower down example of it, but think we can talk about that. That's a fun one to throw in there too because some of the artwork they've got on that has been amazing. Is there anything that took your eye that could be in the Wondershine Index ad?

00:05:19.54
Adz
Well, I thought I would go for a recent player, someone that's still playing. It's it's LeBron James, the 2003 Upper Deck Exquisite Collection.

00:05:31.81
Russell Gibson
Oh, yeah. Nice one. Yeah.

00:05:32.98
Adz
Yeah. The gold ah patch, which is a rookie patch numbered to 23.

00:05:40.76
Russell Gibson
Oof.

00:05:41.69
Adz
So, yeah. and that

00:05:42.86
Russell Gibson
That's well played.

00:05:43.74
Adz
And that last sold for $4.25 million. In August this year, so...

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:05:49.14
Adz
not very long ago at all on that.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:05:52.90
Adz
So look, I think the, I think the number to 23. So it's, in it's interesting with the art context, I guess that we're we're going to layer this with the one of ones are one of one pieces of history.

00:05:59.72
Russell Gibson
That's actually very clever.

00:06:11.32
Adz
I think that that art parallel is very much ah true and correct. The ones that are numbered are very interesting because obviously players signed photos and things like that.

00:06:22.94
Adz
I have some Kobe Bryant autographed photos that were but were limited runs.

00:06:27.29
Russell Gibson
Sure.

00:06:28.80
Adz
So I have an 81 point um game print that has been signed by Kobe and that's numbered to 24 as well.

00:06:37.15
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:06:37.46
Adz
So like that's that's the idea is it's a rare piece of art that I would, that I display.

00:06:46.10
Russell Gibson
So do you consider that art or memorabilia or do you consider that to be part of your card collection?

00:06:52.70
Adz
Definitely not part of my card collection. I would call it memorabilia. I would i would put it as art. I framed it and it's on a wall.

00:07:02.72
Adz
so oh I think there are a lot of parallels between artwork and collectibles.

00:07:04.73
Russell Gibson
Yeah, interesting. Final thoughts on this, mate, before we move on to Snipe?

00:07:15.76
Adz
I think the Wondershine group have done a lot of good work identifying that there is a, not a change, but do you remember a little while back we talked about the eBay reports and how more people are collecting these days?

00:07:30.84
Russell Gibson
Yeah, for sure.

00:07:31.42
Adz
I think they've identified that trend and seen what collecting other stuff would look like when you use art as a parallel.

00:07:40.25
Russell Gibson
o

00:07:41.40
Adz
Because you've got art collectors and now you've got you've got antique like different types of collectors.

00:07:46.52
Russell Gibson
I think the eBay thing is one population, but I really, particularly for the Wondershine stuff, because it's so far out of my price range, I actually wonder if he's sort of defining his own collector subset where it's this like ultra high end.

00:08:00.66
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:03.31
Russell Gibson
It's a very exclusive you know group of people that are trading in this stuff.

00:08:07.10
Adz
Oh, without a doubt, but in order to justify the demand, I think he needs a basis of society collecting stuff.

00:08:07.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah. and And also, yeah for sure. But maybe also too, if it then becomes considered art, he can then sell that to investment groups or he can sell it to you know private equity that are you know looking for some high risk investment, something like that.

00:08:21.14
Adz
Of course.

00:08:26.81
Adz
Yeah, that's definitely a narrative that they're driving to they're really trying to bring collectibles into the mainstream and make them tangible assets.

00:08:27.01
Russell Gibson
So I wonder if there's, yeah. Yeah.

00:08:37.78
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:08:38.71
Adz
For sure.

00:08:39.66
Russell Gibson
This is from Collect Media or Darren Revell, which we've spoken about Darren previously on the show, if you have listened before, um many, many times before. He went out and started his own media network.

00:08:51.79
Russell Gibson
Basically, that's what he's trying to do with this Collect Media. The story reads very, very simply. Breaking power sale of Rick Probstein is closing his new auction platform, Snipe, and returning to eBay following a failed launch.

00:09:05.88
Russell Gibson
That was dated November the 25th. So for some context, we recorded on the 23rd. So this has happened in in very quick succession. So last week we reported the data breach that occurred.

00:09:19.61
Adz
Yep.

00:09:20.05
Russell Gibson
And if my memory serves me correct, that sort of happened on the 21st or the 22nd. The 23rd we recorded, the 25th this came out. So that's on the Tuesday our time.

00:09:30.29
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:31.13
Russell Gibson
And then basically I was checking out on eBay. He was already, he already had cards listed up on eBay before, you know, even this was officially announced.

00:09:38.04
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:39.82
Russell Gibson
Like he he didn't have many, he had about 70 cards on there, but he, so either the either his eBay platform never a hundred percent fully shut down or he, you know, was just, you back to business almost straight away.

00:09:41.82
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:51.82
Russell Gibson
So I think,

00:09:54.86
Russell Gibson
there's a few things for us to, to break down here.

00:09:57.11
Adz
Unpack, yeah.

00:09:57.74
Russell Gibson
Yeah. And I think the first thing that we should probably do here is, is talk about actually, you know, what happened in that space. So what has been now confirmed is that they did have a massive data breach.

00:10:10.05
Adz
Yep.

00:10:10.26
Russell Gibson
The data breach was then um shown to have all of their customers data, you know, within that. And I think something that we,

00:10:18.62
Adz
As well as bid histories and things as well though, yeah.

00:10:20.63
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so that's the other thing too. And that's what we spoke about last week. And I feel like the way that we used the wording last week, we were confident that it happened, but we weren't certain that it did. Whereas in the next in the week it now it's played out, there's a lot more evidence to show that In fact, it was either Probstine himself or employees of the company.

00:10:39.06
Russell Gibson
And so, you know, I think this is very divisive for people throughout the community because some auction houses actually are very explicit about that and will say in their T's and C's, the staff and employees will do it.

00:10:48.82
Adz
Yep.

00:10:52.44
Russell Gibson
And then there's other auction houses that don't do it.

00:10:52.60
Adz
Yep.

00:10:55.21
Russell Gibson
And it also seems to be, it depends on the state where your business is listed, whether it's legal or not. So I think there is a little bit to be, you know, in that space, but I think

00:11:02.26
Adz
Yeah.

00:11:06.87
Russell Gibson
I feel like this was a big deal for people in the hobby because it gave them the smoking gun. They've always suspected that this man had been um guilty of shilling up his bids.

00:11:17.27
Adz
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:11:17.85
Russell Gibson
And now there's actually, you know, sort of evidence of that. So, yeah.

00:11:20.09
Adz
tangible, like something hard evidence to to back it up

00:11:24.15
Russell Gibson
the The really interesting thing for me, though, is that so you can't buy that type of publicity. and And I don't think this is the same example, but do you remember that time when Cherry got into a bit of online trouble when they were flashing around those Luca base rookie cards.

00:11:41.98
Russell Gibson
And their policy at the time was not to ship base cards out to people. So then they were holding on to people's base cards.

00:11:47.22
Adz
ya Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:11:48.85
Russell Gibson
And then that kind of like Grayson took a lot of blowback for that. But I think probably, you know, now in hindsight, that media that they received for that was so powerful then because it got them.

00:12:02.10
Russell Gibson
You can't buy that many clicks, Right.

00:12:03.74
Adz
is that Is that one of those any publicity is good publicity? Because it puts the spotlight on you, right?

00:12:08.50
Russell Gibson
I think in that particular instance, it did. And that's why I'm a little bit confused on this a little bit too, because it's like, you can't buy that much publicity in the hobby for this.

00:12:10.71
Adz
Shines a light, yeah. Hmm.

00:12:16.38
Russell Gibson
And so the the breach must have been so bad or the damage to their website must have, because it's also possible that their website was damaged.

00:12:23.42
Adz
yeah Okay.

00:12:25.66
Russell Gibson
And I'm skipping a little bit ahead here, but Beckett's website was damaged in their hack. So you wouldn't put it, I didn't read that anywhere about Collector that happened, but

00:12:36.63
Adz
Yeah.

00:12:37.30
Russell Gibson
That kind of in my head, that's what I'm thinking, because why would you just abandon ship when you've invested all this time and money into it? And really, it didn't even last a week, Ed.

00:12:44.66
Adz
It's

00:12:47.64
Russell Gibson
like It was a very quick like you know failed operation.

00:12:48.42
Adz
weird. Yeah.

00:12:50.48
Russell Gibson
you know Let's go back to eBay. So so I think that's like one part. um The other part is eBay. So what's the ethics around eBay except in the back? like How do you feel about, you know, what's your take on eBay just taking them back now knowing that he is a shill bidding connoisseur?

00:13:07.67
Adz
Surely they'll just monitor is is the way his bidding patterns and things are, right? does Does eBay have safeguards and things in place to to to monitor patterns of behavior?

00:13:24.54
Adz
Like if this guy's putting an auction and then bidding, he won't be bidding on his own like on his platform. Will he?

00:13:32.95
Russell Gibson
I think allegedly this as has been going on with him for ever and a day.

00:13:37.23
Adz
Yeah, yeah,

00:13:38.42
Russell Gibson
And I think that was the reputation because, and I think that's what got him some notoriety is that if you sent your stuff to Propstein for sale, you would get, you know, the best amount back for your cards.

00:13:48.06
Adz
yeah. yeah But it wouldn't be... and But this is the this is the um the cost of investigating him, right? He's not got one little account that goes bid, bid, bid, bid.

00:14:02.65
Adz
Right? There are... other accounts that are associated with him that put bids into shill auctions up so how the the question is how do you police it

00:14:16.60
Adz
i i think shilling is probably one of the um most unethical things that happens in the hobby in that sense in the auction sense But the question the the the follow-up question there is, how much do you invest in protecting yourself from it?

00:14:33.53
Adz
I know there are platforms that have a zero tolerance towards it. The question still is, how do you stop it?

00:14:37.68
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:14:44.28
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but yeah, I don't know the answer to that. And I think.

00:14:46.94
Adz
cause cause But you know what you know what I'm getting at.

00:14:47.64
Russell Gibson
100%.

00:14:49.34
Adz
Like if your cousin's second, like, ah someone estranged from the family related to somebody else bids on your behalf. How do we prove that?

00:15:03.45
Russell Gibson
yeah hundred percent and I'd also assume too, at this point, he'd be a very slick machine with, you know, VPNs and changing IP addresses and stuff like that.

00:15:10.62
Adz
Correct. Correct. I just, say he's a pro.

00:15:13.30
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So it's like, I think that's that part, but I think coming back to eBay at the end of the day, the thing they care about the most is getting their percentage.

00:15:14.05
Adz
Yep.

00:15:22.41
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:15:23.19
Russell Gibson
And so we all know, you know, and he's been very public about, you know, the volume of sales that he's done. It's it's in the billions now. So we're we're not talking about a small amount of money in this particular instance for eBay.

00:15:30.24
Adz
Yeah.

00:15:32.95
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:15:33.65
Russell Gibson
So, yep.

00:15:33.67
Adz
Without a doubt. Without a doubt. and

00:15:36.22
Russell Gibson
And so I think eBay care about that. I think the other thing that eBay care about too is returns because I think while shilling is a, and I i just actually want to clarify this like really quickly now.

00:15:47.77
Russell Gibson
It may seem like I defend people who shill, but my true opinion is I don't agree with shilling at all. But the way I try to look at it is like, this is just like the world we live in.

00:15:58.43
Russell Gibson
And so what I'm about to say now is like, I suspect that eBay don't care about that. I think what they more care about is the percentage of returns and how much money they get back from sales.

00:16:07.76
Adz
Well, this is why they didn't ditch him in the first place, right?

00:16:09.09
Russell Gibson
100%. 100%. Yeah. hundred percent

00:16:12.12
Adz
Like, even though they're allegations, if they were seriously concerned about it, there'd be investigations into it.

00:16:12.98
Russell Gibson
hundred percent

00:16:17.59
Russell Gibson
Yeah, because I think also too about someone like Probstein, like yes, with all the problems he does have, there are also some things that he's done really well. Like for example, for example and um this is not advertisement for Probstein, but they know how to pack this stuff really well.

00:16:31.11
Adz
Sure.

00:16:31.86
Russell Gibson
And so I think this is something that we also encounter in the hobby. You can pay someone your $150 for a card and then it gets damaged in the mail because they put it into like a PWE.

00:16:37.90
Adz
Yeah.

00:16:42.33
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:16:43.11
Adz
Yeah.

00:16:43.35
Russell Gibson
what mean? Like they're not doing stuff like that.

00:16:43.77
Adz
Yeah.

00:16:45.06
Russell Gibson
So it's, I think they sort of create different things. We need to go for a break and we'll come back and we'll keep talking about this because there's still a few more dot points that I wanted to get through on this.

00:16:51.83
Adz
yeah hundred percent Let's do that.

00:16:55.83
Russell Gibson
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00:17:30.36
Russell Gibson
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00:17:43.96
Russell Gibson
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00:18:07.54
Russell Gibson
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00:18:07.79
Adz
cool. No. Sure.

00:18:13.62
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, we're back. And we were discussing the shill bidding and the ethics around eBay and collect media's reporting on snipe shutting down.

00:18:25.74
Russell Gibson
So i just wanted to go back to the reporting by Darren Rovell.

00:18:28.89
Adz
now

00:18:29.86
Russell Gibson
So if you go to the Twitter post that was on there, he was absolutely roasted. by people online about his reporting. And I think what they were were roasting him about was how little detail he included into his story.

00:18:44.05
Adz
Mm-hmm. Yeah,

00:18:44.73
Russell Gibson
And I think that this is a really interesting one because the industry at the moment is small. And i I suspect it's going to be getting smaller over the next few years as companies begin to monopolize things a little bit more.

00:18:56.98
Adz
yeah

00:18:57.30
Russell Gibson
And I think what he was criticized around here was he didn't want to say anything critical to Rick Probstein around what happened. So for example, nothing was mentioned about the hack.

00:19:08.33
Russell Gibson
Nothing was mentioned about the data breach. Nothing was mentioned about people's, you know, data being stolen, anything like that. It was just that the company's open, the company's closed. He's now going back to eBay. You know, that's done and dusted.

00:19:19.53
Russell Gibson
I'm not going to read out these comments because some of it's that very kind of like toxic um Twitter slash axe X stuff.

00:19:20.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:19:25.17
Adz
A hundred percent.

00:19:27.48
Russell Gibson
that You know, you get the gist of what I'm saying here. You don't need me to read this stuff out.

00:19:30.80
Adz
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:19:32.02
Russell Gibson
But I do think that it's a really interesting time in the hobby in sense of how do you report on something objectively without ruffling feathers you know and so i think this is something we we're gonna have to be you know navigating at sort of some point um maybe even ourselves ah as we move forward but i i think you do see it you know to some degree with people online all right i'm gonna leave that at that i don't think i need to keep crapping on about that for too much more what does this mean for consumers this is the last dot point i wanted to talk to you about so

00:19:49.32
Adz
The tricky one, yeah.

00:20:10.29
Russell Gibson
There's no platform that you can now, there's no alternative platform that you can now go to. So Snipe is, you know, it's gone. That means there's less competition competition for Heritage. There's less competition for Goldens.

00:20:23.02
Russell Gibson
There's less competition for Fanatics and their auction platform. um Where are you at with this type of stuff at?

00:20:31.35
Adz
do but did did we Did we need the dodgy website?

00:20:32.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:20:36.82
Adz
Do you know what i mean? Did we need the dodgy auction house? i Honestly, i think this is a positive thing for the for the hobby in the in the sense that we don't need to space it out. we've We've got some big auction houses. There are some small ones and big ones. There's enough in the industry.

00:20:54.65
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:20:55.42
Adz
um what we could do is ah is with a little bit more regulation and maybe maybe the Ebays need to start investigating how to detect this stuff. I mean, we've discussed before the break that they probably don't care, but there there are platforms that do care.

00:21:11.64
Adz
So maybe that's a differentiating factor. Finding ones that that have a zero part tolerance to shilling, even though i still, once i so again,

00:21:24.10
Adz
i've got a group of If I've got my own little consortium of 100 accounts, how are you going to catch me for for shilling?

00:21:34.55
Adz
Sucks. Really sucks. um I just...

00:21:38.49
Russell Gibson
No, I really don't know the answer to it. There has to be some like suspicious bidding if you've got like a Xero account that's got 10,000 bids.

00:21:43.77
Adz
put it damp Put a reserve on the card. Okay.

00:21:47.27
Russell Gibson
I mean, maybe you're limited to x amount of bids per day or something like that to try and stamp out these like new accounts coming through.

00:21:57.37
Adz
But yeah, I just, it baffles. it I don't know how you police it. So I like to offer solutions to it.

00:22:02.04
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:22:04.54
Adz
Be aware of it. eBay, stop increasing the fees if there's a reserve. Let them put reserves in. They think a card's worth $500. Let them put it at $500 rather than charge them less to insert it at 99 cents. Like,

00:22:20.76
Russell Gibson
I think for me, what it means for consumers is that eBay is king once again. I really think actually the winner out of this is eBay because, you know, we can talk all we want about all these other auction houses, but I think maybe the thing we actually do neglect to sometimes talk about is just the volume of cards that eBay, you know, actually go through.

00:22:28.80
Adz
Oh, eBay has proven that they're the

00:22:40.32
Adz
eBay are the PSA of the yeah, yeah.

00:22:40.50
Russell Gibson
and so, A hundred percent, man. And I think, you know, maybe what actually would be the most beneficial here is that eBay get their stuff sort of sorted out in terms of their return policies and how they can protect sellers a bit more.

00:22:53.73
Russell Gibson
Because I think probably at the end of the day, that will be, you know, the most beneficial thing here.

00:22:57.49
Adz
It feels both ways.

00:22:59.48
Russell Gibson
All right, let's move on.

00:22:59.92
Adz
Yeah.

00:23:00.90
Russell Gibson
Beckett data breach. This is now part two of this. We discussed this last week. In the meantime of this, there's been very, very little information released on this at all.

00:23:11.73
Russell Gibson
And I think it's kind of a weird thing for me to say about this, but this is what I wanted to report is that there's been very little on that. And so...

00:23:20.39
Adz
We're reporting that there's still no statement from Beckett.

00:23:23.51
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I read an article from it like a nerd website basically just talking about the the data breach that happened, the damage that happened to the website, and really it just sort of summarized nothing. There's nothing really new news on that.

00:23:34.81
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:35.22
Russell Gibson
This is from todays underscore hobby trends on Instagram, and he's basically just reusing gem rate data here. PSA, card submitted 76,000, CGC at 23,000, tag, which is new to the...

00:23:48.58
Russell Gibson
tag which is you know new to the The top 10 list, they're at 6,000 and Beckett's at 1.5,000.

00:23:51.86
Adz
ah

00:23:54.65
Russell Gibson
So it does just kind of seem like this is just a very slow death that's happening now to Beckett. and

00:24:01.05
Adz
yeah

00:24:02.14
Russell Gibson
like The thing that's interesting for me about this is that even though I see CGC and Tag ahead of them on the list, I'd actually don't consider them to be number four in this list. I'd actually probably still consider them to be like a very strong number two.

00:24:15.93
Adz
Yep.

00:24:16.50
Russell Gibson
Maybe that's just more my disdain for Tag and CGC.

00:24:20.06
Adz
a

00:24:20.91
Russell Gibson
But, you know, um we did find one other the small thing just to say that PC Sports Cards isn't sending their cards anymore to Beckett.

00:24:29.89
Adz
Yep.

00:24:31.86
Russell Gibson
I actually don't have a problem with this. I think if a company is having that many problems on their internal processes, do you really want to be sending off more data to them, more cards and and all that type of stuff?

00:24:38.19
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:24:43.70
Adz
No, I think you've got to protect your customers, right?

00:24:44.76
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:24:47.42
Adz
And I think that's a really respectful and responsible thing to be doing.

00:24:47.96
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:24:50.50
Adz
Like if if you were to find out that Beckett have had such data breach, why would you be volunteering? a addition You've got new subscribers, like new customers that are wanting to sub to Beckett. You're like, before you send this off, should we tell you what's happened recently?

00:25:05.64
Adz
Just because your data might not be safe.

00:25:08.52
Russell Gibson
Toronto

00:25:09.41
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:12.78
Russell Gibson
Raptors. Congratulations, Toronto Raptors. You guys are on an absolute tear. Nine wins in a row from the time I researched this.

00:25:20.59
Adz
Mm, they're 4-0 in the NBA Cup and they're headed to Vegas.

00:25:25.72
Russell Gibson
Playing some insane basketball at the moment. I don't mind the way that they play. I get what they're trying to do. They're trying to be a little bit like Oklahoma in terms of having just sort of an all-round team out there. They they switch they switch a lot.

00:25:43.87
Russell Gibson
They don't really have a point guard out there. And I kind of think that's actually like another thing, like the future of the NBA. You're just going to have four or five guys out there that can just handle the ball.

00:25:53.24
Adz
Just ball handlers. It's positionless kind of thing.

00:25:54.49
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And it's just, you know, five guys out there playing ball. And i think it's good basketball to watch.

00:26:02.33
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:03.15
Russell Gibson
Ingram is finally you know starting to play really, really good basketball.

00:26:07.64
Adz
Touch wood, you say, is healthy?

00:26:07.93
Russell Gibson
So i thought the things that we could talk about now is we'd recap the trade to the Toronto Raptors because this is an absolute heist now.

00:26:13.94
Adz
Yeah, that's good, I think.

00:26:16.88
Russell Gibson
We're looking back on it. So the Raptors gave up Bruce Brown, Kelly Olenek, and a first round pick and a second round pick. That's it. And my recollection at the time of this trade is that Ingram wanted an extension and and the Pelicans didn't want to pay it.

00:26:32.29
Adz
Didn't want to pay him.

00:26:32.65
Russell Gibson
So in those terms, it sort of changes the dynamics a little bit more.

00:26:32.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:37.17
Russell Gibson
So that probably explains why they didn't get as much for him as they did.

00:26:38.08
Adz
Yeah. Without

00:26:40.25
Russell Gibson
And he was also injured at the time too, wasn't he? So...

00:26:42.54
Adz
a doubt. Yeah.

00:26:43.38
Russell Gibson
I think that all sort of played into a part of it. But in terms of getting talent onto your team and not giving up too much back for it, you know the Raptors have won this absolutely hands down.

00:26:52.89
Adz
visit without it's out yeah

00:26:55.83
Russell Gibson
Raptors fans, please bask in the sunshine because this is not going to happen very often. We're going to go through three of your Raptors players

00:27:06.45
Adz
Whoa.

00:27:06.52
Russell Gibson
card values on this show. We're going to go through Scotty Barnes. Scotty Barnes is on an absolute tear at the moment. If you filter this down to three months, he is up 100%. So three months ago, he was trading at $100. He's now trading at $200. So we gave Joe Dennison a shout out last week. I reckon Joe's going to be

00:27:28.17
Adz
I'm very happy about this.

00:27:29.14
Russell Gibson
pretty happy with himself at the moment with this. Look, I love Scotty Barnes. I think there's a lot of potential for this guy. I think my concern with this guy is that he doesn't have that sort of Ja Morant, Anthony Edwards flair.

00:27:41.81
Russell Gibson
And so whilst he's a savant on defense and he's a fantastic on-court communicator and he's so versatile, you know how much does that then translate over to

00:27:42.17
Adz
swagger about him.

00:27:54.36
Russell Gibson
the hobby And I think that's probably my problem with this guy, where his talent absolutely exceeds his you know true dollar value. think the question here is buy, hold, or sell, Ad. Where are you at with this guy?

00:28:05.96
Adz
I'm still in cell territory. i I like Barnes, but I don't know if this hype bubble stays hyped for very long. um

00:28:16.32
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:28:16.76
Adz
I don't like being critical. i To all our listeners in Canada, I am sorry, but being in Toronto is a bit of a negative in the in the hobby. They're not a one of those...

00:28:24.98
Russell Gibson
Except if you're listening to Central Coast Radio, mate. They, um...

00:28:29.42
Adz
Well, this has been Raptors fans. It's just, I mean, ah I'm glad you guys like basketball, but hobby-wise, I mean, there's no, the tariffs don't affect Canada, so why aren't they buying heaps of cards? Maybe that's why they're the the spike as well.

00:28:46.39
Russell Gibson
could be why.

00:28:46.94
Adz
canadians Canadians are allowed to buy cards without crazy tariffs from America.

00:28:51.26
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Look, I think if you love Scotty Barnes, you're holding. And I think you just, you enjoy the ride and you enjoy this sort of, but let's just say you went into a random break and it was a repack and you hit a Scotty Barnes RPA.

00:28:58.81
Adz
This could be the year.

00:29:06.97
Russell Gibson
You should probably start to look at flipping it out because no, I'm serious.

00:29:10.55
Adz
Yeah. If you've got ah if you got you get a handful of rookies and you've got a few, yeah.

00:29:13.62
Russell Gibson
He's going through a hot streak at the moment. I kind of feel like this guy's probably going to cool off at some point.

00:29:19.06
Adz
All right. What about something less miraculous and say you've got a blue, like a red to 299.

00:29:19.78
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:29:25.29
Adz
Yeah.

00:29:28.06
Adz
would you would you Would you sell then?

00:29:31.00
Russell Gibson
I think if you love Scotty Barnes, you hold, but if you've just got it in your collection and it's collecting dust and you want to flip it onto someone else and you want to put something else to your PC, yeah, I think now's a really good time to sell for Scotty Barnes, honestly.

00:29:35.29
Adz
no one no one's selling that card.

00:29:43.70
Adz
The red looks really nice.

00:29:44.54
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:29:45.02
Adz
It's a color match because he's in the white uniform too. Oh, that's a good looking card.

00:29:47.37
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:29:49.61
Russell Gibson
You love a good color match.

00:29:50.55
Adz
I love a good color match.

00:29:52.74
Russell Gibson
Emmanuel Quickly, if you've been buying this guy up at $1.80, you have now doubled your money. Congratulations. He is now trading at $3.56 for a raw. um Look, I think Quickly is he's a talented kid.

00:30:09.34
Russell Gibson
I think they overpaid him hideously. But I would also say to you know tread very quick carefully in the Quickly stakes just because –

00:30:18.73
Adz
Don't be too quickly to trade off quickly quickly.

00:30:22.10
Russell Gibson
I suppose at the same time too, we're only talking about three bucks, aren't we?

00:30:23.93
Adz
but

00:30:24.86
Russell Gibson
Like you're not going to lose your house.

00:30:26.54
Adz
It's a buy for me. If I'm, why not?

00:30:28.73
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:30:29.67
Adz
It's under five bucks. It's a buy.

00:30:31.22
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah, sure.

00:30:32.44
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:33.30
Russell Gibson
This next one's really interesting. This is Brandon Ingram. He's trading at the moment at $95. The population on this is just 200 ad. When you scroll out to old time, this is the really interesting thing.

00:30:41.70
Adz
It's, yeah.

00:30:45.06
Russell Gibson
So in the first 12 months, he was up to about

00:30:48.25
Adz
We know why that is though, though.

00:30:50.26
Russell Gibson
445. He was a Lakers guy.

00:30:52.89
Adz
Yep.

00:30:53.43
Russell Gibson
He then went down to about 300 and he sat there for for quite a while. Through COVID, I'm going to say it just because we can, he was up to 2000 and it's been a very, very steady down decline.

00:31:03.77
Adz
saying

00:31:05.83
Russell Gibson
So if you look at him the last six months, you could have picked him up for 50 bucks.

00:31:07.13
Adz
you Yep.

00:31:11.38
Russell Gibson
And I think that's an absolute bargain. $95. that's totally fine.

00:31:18.30
Adz
Yeah, I think 95 is fine still. He's, um,

00:31:20.41
Russell Gibson
I think my problem with Brandon Ingram is I don't think he's really the type of guy who is collectible in the hobby, who people want to like turn him over and flip. I think at this point in time, it legitimately is a PC-only purchase.

00:31:34.01
Adz
Yeah, I mean, he's what, year seven, eight in the league? Nine?

00:31:40.35
Russell Gibson
Nine, mate.

00:31:40.47
Adz
Nine.

00:31:41.64
Russell Gibson
We're getting old.

00:31:41.73
Adz
Far out.

00:31:42.52
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:31:43.48
Adz
Far out. Yeah, he's definitely PC.

00:31:44.45
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:31:46.08
Adz
he's not He might be rejuvenating his career, but it's not going to reflect hobby-wise, I i wouldn't think.

00:31:46.25
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:31:51.70
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's right. That's exactly right.

00:31:55.16
Adz
Good to see Toronto doing well.

00:31:56.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah, 100%. Makes the league more interesting. I think having one or two teams sort of shock us each year has been great. Like Detroit's been good this year. Yeah.

00:32:05.36
Adz
Detroit's been great.

00:32:08.09
Russell Gibson
The Wizards have been

00:32:10.62
Adz
Yeah. Well, I was correct about that. I was not correct about Toronto because I thought they were going to be down there with the Wizards.

00:32:19.02
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:32:19.51
Adz
They're definitely not going to be.

00:32:21.38
Russell Gibson
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00:32:38.10
Russell Gibson
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00:33:04.38
Russell Gibson
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00:33:16.31
Russell Gibson
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00:33:44.54
Russell Gibson
Adam, we're back. How are you, buddy?

00:33:46.95
Adz
I'm very, very good.

00:33:49.14
Russell Gibson
Now, I'm going to steal this directly from Matthew Yuga. He put up a post on his Matt's Card Shop Instagram, and it's a banger. What is your biggest hobby regret?

00:34:00.38
Russell Gibson
Adam.

00:34:02.30
Adz
My biggest hobby regret.

00:34:03.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:34:05.37
Adz
So what did I see on Golden this this this week? Advertising one of their, you know you know how they do the weekly, here's a ah prize card that they'd like to auction off.

00:34:22.07
Adz
Kobe Bryant, rookie 1996, the credentials numbered to

00:34:31.10
Adz
BGS 7.5 yeah yeah I owned that card once upon a time yes I owned it I owned it i owned that in that grade I don't know if it's that card but it was the that was the grade yeah yeah yeah PSA 7.5 actually mine might have been an eight mine might have been an eight actually um

00:34:37.37
Russell Gibson
Was it actually your card or you like just similar? That exact. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

00:34:48.66
Russell Gibson
What did it sell for?

00:34:53.88
Adz
I don't know what it's held for. It's on it's ah up up on the auctions, but recent sales say it's ah it's ah it's probably a 10K card. Anyway.

00:35:01.98
Russell Gibson
i mean, if this is going to cause you too much pain, we don't have to cover it, but do you want to follow this up next week?

00:35:05.02
Adz
there was a there was a there was a There was a point during COVID where I checked the value of this card and the the there were six numbers with no decimals.

00:35:23.21
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:35:24.92
Adz
Anyway, the the the roughly not quite a thousand dollars I got for it way back when doesn't seem like enough.

00:35:26.52
Russell Gibson
That would make you sad.

00:35:35.32
Adz
Anyway.

00:35:35.58
Russell Gibson
No.

00:35:38.07
Russell Gibson
But it's also one of those things you just don't know. Like, who would have predicted this?

00:35:40.95
Adz
no look, i look i would in hindsight, I would have gone and busked for a day to raise that money rather than sell that card.

00:35:49.22
Russell Gibson
That's all right.

00:35:51.80
Adz
Anyway.

00:35:57.72
Russell Gibson
Look, I actually have very little hobby regrets. So this is going to be a very light one for me because like I do buy and sell cards and I do lose money on cards, but I don't have like one that's a six figure one like that.

00:36:02.34
Adz
Yeah.

00:36:15.66
Russell Gibson
But I probably think my biggest regret is probably Nicola Jokic because I really feel like I had OCD on this guy for the last 12 months. And for some reason, i was just didn't want to pull the trigger.

00:36:26.52
Adz
yeah

00:36:29.58
Russell Gibson
I think I was waiting for his price to go down. And it's just gone basically up and up. So if I'm looking at his graph now for the last 12 months, he's up 92%.

00:36:43.45
Russell Gibson
So his silver was trading a little bit sub $3,000. It's currently now trading at $6,000 USD. And I just can't bring myself to pay that money for that, for a silver.

00:36:57.89
Adz
it's it's it's scary that as every year goes on, people are like, is he really that good? And then it happens and it's like, yes, he is. Okay.

00:37:07.00
Russell Gibson
He's so good.

00:37:07.19
Adz
Next year, is he that good? Now there are arguments on on whether or not he's literally one of the greatest centres of all time.

00:37:09.69
Russell Gibson
he is so good at basketball. It's not, it's actually hard to understand.

00:37:20.54
Adz
There are arguments. I'm not saying that's my view. i'm i'm saying there are discussions. He's entering a lot of discussions now. And they're not in a jovial manner.

00:37:29.24
Russell Gibson
I think he deserves that.

00:37:31.24
Adz
The guy goes to work and he's incredible.

00:37:31.96
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah.

00:37:37.34
Russell Gibson
I think if he won more championships, the conversation would be different again.

00:37:37.40
Adz
It's, yeah.

00:37:41.47
Russell Gibson
would be, is he in the top 10 of basketball players, not just centers?

00:37:42.17
Adz
For sure.

00:37:47.61
Adz
Well, it looks, yeah.

00:37:47.92
Russell Gibson
That's where I'm at with this guy, you know.

00:37:49.21
Adz
Yeah. i think um I think the way the Nuggets are going this year, is to they're off to a good start to put their hat in the ring anyway.

00:37:57.98
Russell Gibson
Yeah. ah Just to credit what Matt Yuga did, he spoke about ah football card. was about Tashaun Watson. I have no idea who this guy is, but it sounds like Matty could have sold it for a whole bunch of cash and didn't hold onto it.

00:38:11.56
Russell Gibson
And it sounds like he's lost whole bunch of money. But I think, um I mean, if we're talking about pure losing money on cards, probably Admiral Schofield's been my biggest money pit, but I don't actually regret that.

00:38:23.67
Russell Gibson
So I can't really, do you know what I mean?

00:38:24.82
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:38:27.19
Russell Gibson
Like, geez, that was fun while it lasted.

00:38:35.51
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. Let's talk about Prism Black because I did get my hands on just two boxes. We broke it on the page. It was very well received.

00:38:46.64
Russell Gibson
It's a really weird product for me. i I won't go into this because we've already done this a little bit, but it's like what they should have done forever.

00:38:51.03
Adz
Yeah.

00:38:55.89
Adz
Yep.

00:38:55.99
Russell Gibson
The quality control was good. The photography was sublime.

00:39:00.42
Adz
Yeah.

00:39:00.89
Russell Gibson
The production of the card was fantastic. And what I mean by that of like just the design of the card, how each card is aesthetically appealing.

00:39:08.09
Adz
Yeah.

00:39:08.73
Russell Gibson
And so i think there's that part of it. The mangas, the color blast, five autographs per box. Like it just ticks off so many different boxes.

00:39:19.83
Adz
Yeah, for sure.

00:39:19.90
Russell Gibson
I think the the price has gone up quite a bit. There is redemptions in it. there's, You know, there are some negatives of it.

00:39:29.02
Adz
Yeah, it's risky.

00:39:29.56
Russell Gibson
i think it's tricky to invest into something that is filled up with redemptions.

00:39:34.39
Adz
Yeah, for sure.

00:39:35.48
Russell Gibson
In saying that, I think despite that, I think those boxes will hold very, very well. I think the potential of the mangas, the color blast.

00:39:43.67
Adz
The mangas are the big ones that call boss are awesome.

00:39:46.90
Russell Gibson
And now what we're going to go on and talk about now is Steph Curry. So i didn't...

00:39:51.16
Adz
Chef curry.

00:39:51.89
Russell Gibson
I didn't actually write this down and I can't credit the person who came up with this. or I apologize who I'm borrowing this off, but basically the post was saying Steph Curry's heating up and so are his sales, right?

00:40:02.25
Russell Gibson
It was something along those lines.

00:40:02.90
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:03.73
Russell Gibson
I can't credit the person though.

00:40:03.83
Adz
Yeah. Yep.

00:40:04.81
Russell Gibson
I didn't write it down. Anyway, True Gold 7 out of 10 sold for $17,999. So I'm just going to say these prices, they're all USD. So let's just get that out of the way.

00:40:13.56
Adz
yep Yeah, that's fine.

00:40:15.26
Russell Gibson
Another numbered to 10, sold for $12,499. The gold vinyl Fodal numbered to five, that's outrageous. They would do it as gold vinyl, but I'll let them go on that. That sold for $20,933. The Cherry Blossom sold The Gold Shimmer Auto four out of sold for the five out of ten also sold for nine thousand two hundred so that's just him

00:40:40.82
Adz
Wow.

00:40:42.68
Russell Gibson
amy's

00:40:43.38
Adz
In that set.

00:40:43.77
Russell Gibson
natural in the photography that they've put into the set. Right.

00:40:48.15
Adz
ah you euri

00:40:48.69
Russell Gibson
Now let's move into his short prints. The color blast PSA 10 sold for 9,200 8,459. The manga PSA 10 sold for 45,000, 42,000 and 35,000.

00:41:01.86
Russell Gibson
I checked the serial numbers on the mangas because I was like, has someone just shield this up, resold it?

00:41:05.29
Adz
It could be the same. Yeah, really.

00:41:07.86
Russell Gibson
You know, no, it was three separate sales on, you know, on three different serial numbers and,

00:41:13.12
Adz
Roll mangas.

00:41:14.46
Russell Gibson
Raw mangas have sold twice that I could find for $16,000 a pop. So, you know, we talk about PSA and and their place in the hobby. Well, you can buy it for $16,000, send it off to PSA. Let's just say it costs you $2,000 or $2,500.

00:41:27.54
Russell Gibson
that's You doubled your money plus more, you know on the resale of it. like That's why PSA is going to be here forever, right?

00:41:34.42
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:35.19
Russell Gibson
um So I took some photos of some cards and I just want to just go through them with you. just Just look at the photography. I know these are base cards. I know these aren't gold shimmers.

00:41:48.67
Russell Gibson
They're not silvers even. They're not cherry blossom. They're just they're just cards. just Just have a look at the photography. So this first one is Tim Duncan. Okay, that's a red. That's a numbered card. i'm I'm lying to you slightly, but you get the gist.

00:41:59.55
Adz
It's good photo.

00:42:00.32
Russell Gibson
It's just a lit photo, right? but that's a That's such a good Tim Duncan mode moment.

00:42:02.78
Adz
I love it.

00:42:06.62
Russell Gibson
John Stockton.

00:42:07.03
Adz
Yep.

00:42:07.83
Russell Gibson
That's the memory that's the memory

00:42:09.40
Adz
Classic. That's a classic John Stockton look. Yeah.

00:42:12.25
Russell Gibson
Right. But look at the background ad, just like how beautiful that card is just like overlaid in. Like it just aesthetically, it's not too much.

00:42:19.06
Adz
Yep.

00:42:19.89
Russell Gibson
It's not too little.

00:42:20.08
Adz
They've hit it. They've hit it.

00:42:20.81
Russell Gibson
It's it's just right.

00:42:21.53
Adz
And I like, i actually like the font.

00:42:21.90
Russell Gibson
Right. Yeah.

00:42:25.08
Adz
Yep.

00:42:25.29
Russell Gibson
LeBron James. it's not It's not the chalk toss that's been done to death. It's him raising the roof.

00:42:30.63
Adz
It's the king.

00:42:32.02
Russell Gibson
Right. Yeah. Maybe he's putting his crayon on his head.

00:42:33.34
Adz
and he's putting his crown on. It's the king.

00:42:34.68
Russell Gibson
Ah, right, right, right, right. Yep. Even better. Tatum cradling his championship trophy.

00:42:41.58
Adz
Hugging is precious.

00:42:45.93
Russell Gibson
I believe that's also a Kobe throwback.

00:42:48.95
Adz
Yep.

00:42:50.17
Russell Gibson
Right?

00:42:50.42
Adz
Yep. Yep.

00:42:51.10
Russell Gibson
So again, they've they've nailed that.

00:42:52.68
Adz
Prism Select used to do those where they'd have the the shots with the the the championships.

00:42:58.61
Russell Gibson
Yep. Koi Leonard. This is a nice photograph of him.

00:43:01.93
Adz
Just a nice stock photo, yeah.

00:43:04.16
Russell Gibson
SGA with his finals MVP trophy.

00:43:09.78
Adz
Interesting pose, that's all I've got.

00:43:15.04
Russell Gibson
I like it.

00:43:15.93
Adz
Yep.

00:43:17.39
Russell Gibson
Edwards. Maybe he's doing a gang sign.

00:43:21.39
Adz
mate Maybe he's asking his lawyer if he has to pay the woman in the crowd.

00:43:25.46
Russell Gibson
How much child support? Yeah.

00:43:26.57
Adz
Yep, yep.

00:43:29.53
Russell Gibson
Cat doing the goggles.

00:43:32.76
Adz
Love it. That's a good, that's a, it's such a good action shot.

00:43:38.04
Russell Gibson
Your boy.

00:43:40.61
Adz
Luca, Luca, Luca. He is my boy.

00:43:44.39
Russell Gibson
So if you do want to check out these photos, they're on our Instagram.

00:43:44.95
Adz
It's, it's, i yeah.

00:43:47.54
Russell Gibson
Just go on and have a quick flick through them while you're listening to this while talking about it. It's just good photography.

00:43:51.69
Adz
I've got him up for the YouTube viewers.

00:43:54.65
Russell Gibson
Thanks, man. Yeah, so that's that. um I think we should really quickly thread in here, though, about Steph Curry. We did touch on this, but I want to do it again.

00:44:06.31
Russell Gibson
Steph Curry has left Under Armour, signed with Nike, seven years, 700 years.

00:44:09.27
Adz
Yes, he has.

00:44:13.82
Russell Gibson
and $80 million. dollars

00:44:15.89
Adz
crazy.

00:44:17.05
Russell Gibson
As much as it is crazy, it's outrageous. I think he deserves every dollar.

00:44:21.53
Adz
Every dollar. And look, I think it's a very smart move. Let's be fair.

00:44:26.14
Russell Gibson
I'm sure he made a whole bunch of money at Under Armour, but I think that company is done and dusted. I think that this is going to actually improve his branding, improve his exposure.

00:44:39.51
Russell Gibson
This actually might make him more popular.

00:44:42.25
Adz
I love the second comment and the on the Instagram post. Nike's so smart. They can use Curry to boost Nike golf once he's done with basketball. They can roll him straight into golf.

00:44:52.82
Russell Gibson
Well, that that's, I would never have thought of that, but why can't they do it now?

00:44:55.26
Adz
easy

00:44:57.85
Adz
Yeah, true, true. Just release a pair of golf shoes. Why wouldn't you?

00:45:02.07
Russell Gibson
Just do a whole golf set.

00:45:03.74
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:04.34
Russell Gibson
The funny looking pants, the shirt, the hat, the beige, the off-white, the white, the cream.

00:45:07.13
Adz
and love easy to hold is he loved He loves his golf.

00:45:13.61
Adz
That's cricket, not golf.

00:45:15.04
Russell Gibson
Oh, sorry.

00:45:22.13
Adz
Richie Benno.

00:45:23.16
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:45:23.96
Adz
Rip.

00:45:24.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah. A hundred percent. All right. How much time we got? It's time for a time for a break.

00:45:29.56
Adz
It is.

00:45:31.31
Russell Gibson
U S sports cards, Australia.com.au go onto their website to U S sports cards, Australia.com.au. There you will find sports breaks, collectible protection, singles, categories, hobby boxes, sports memorabilia toys. Did you receive anything in the mail in the last week? Adam?

00:45:47.35
Adz
I have not received actually I did I got a letter from Vic Rhodes asking me to go to medical appointments but I did go to the PO box hoping for goodies.

00:45:56.00
Russell Gibson
It's not what I was referring to. Maybe next week we can talk more about this.

00:46:00.22
Adz
ah

00:46:00.60
Russell Gibson
All right. Let's check out their hobby boxes. We haven't done this for a little while. Let's just do something completely random. Let's do soccer slash football. What's Ross got for sale here? twenty twenty three twenty four Prism.

00:46:15.03
Russell Gibson
Panini Prism Premier League EPL Soccer Blaster Box for $75.99. 2122 Topps Finest Reef Champions League Soccer Hobby Box for $451.00. Mosaic Liga Blaster for $55.00. 2122 Topps Bundesliga Soccer Hobby for $99.00.

00:46:27.63
Russell Gibson
mosaic laliga blaster box for fifty five and twenty one twenty two toppps bunddeliga soccer hobby but ninetynine dollars Also, don't forget, Ross is working steadily on his ComCA, which is a card consignment services. Send all of your cards into Ross on this. Now, there is something i need to talk to you about this week, Ad.

00:46:51.67
Russell Gibson
One of our listeners of the podcast, Mel, sent in 400 card sub to ComCA in the last week. The card submission fee is now 50 cents per card.

00:47:03.10
Russell Gibson
So Mel saved $200 on her submission. just by being a you by being a You Can't Comp This listener, just write You Can't Comp This on your subsheet to receive a free submission on Ross.

00:47:07.51
Adz
Wow.

00:47:16.46
Russell Gibson
So thank you so much, Ross, for your support. Congratulations to you, Mel, on that. And another listener shout out, I'm going to do this at the same time. We had a listener shout out on the Spotify platform.

00:47:31.48
Adz
Nice.

00:47:36.28
Russell Gibson
We were making jokes last week about people weighing packs in GameStop being evicted. This is from Damien.

00:47:41.66
Adz
Yes.

00:47:42.97
Russell Gibson
I once took a box of Cocoa Pops to the scales in the fresh produce section of the supermarket to make sure I got a box with a lightsaber cereal spoon. Back to mum's basement I go.

00:47:56.52
Adz
Oh my God. Next time there's a promotion like that, guess where I'm going.

00:48:00.18
Russell Gibson
So, um you know, they say like criminals start small and sort of get bigger over the years.

00:48:01.32
Adz
Oh,

00:48:04.58
Russell Gibson
I feel like Damien, you know, started off weighing Cocoa Pops boxes and then um graduated onto Pokemon.

00:48:06.74
Adz
I love it.

00:48:12.36
Adz
It's a bit funny. It's a lot funny, actually. Clever. Clever.

00:48:18.74
Russell Gibson
ah Alrighty.

00:48:18.81
Adz
all about that lightsaber. Oh,

00:48:20.41
Russell Gibson
Absolutely. MVP race. Let's talk some Turkey.

00:48:23.67
Adz
it's a what? a what I was raised. Luka's got it this year.

00:48:27.06
Russell Gibson
You reckon?

00:48:27.89
Adz
Oh, Luka, Luka, Luka. No, no, I think there's a few horses in this race.

00:48:30.65
Russell Gibson
So I'm not going to say the odds because this is not what this section is about to promote gambling.

00:48:36.02
Adz
We're not sports betting. we are We are talking about who we think is leading the MVP race.

00:48:41.34
Russell Gibson
According to Vegas, SGA is one, Jokic is two, Luka is three, Giannis is four, but he's been injured the last sort of week or so.

00:48:42.14
Adz
Yeah, yeah,

00:48:49.16
Russell Gibson
So I'm assuming this this is three days old, interestingly.

00:48:49.34
Adz
yay yeah.

00:48:52.80
Russell Gibson
Tyrese Maxey is next at $51 and Cade Cunningham at $81, which is interesting. I would have thought... Cunningham would be ahead of Maxi, but that's okay. So why don't we just talk a little bit of card values of a couple of these guys.

00:49:06.47
Russell Gibson
We've already done YoKick today. Is anyone on this list that actually intrigues you? I think Kade's a good one.

00:49:11.76
Adz
Luca, I'm joking.

00:49:12.79
Russell Gibson
We can do Luka. lists When was the last time we did Luka card values?

00:49:18.46
Adz
It's been a couple of weeks at least.

00:49:19.77
Russell Gibson
we I feel like we talk about Luka a lot, but we when was the actual last time we went through his prism? I cannot remember.

00:49:26.36
Adz
Actually, it's been a while since we've done a check-in.

00:49:28.86
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:49:29.44
Adz
would have been a few weeks ago at least.

00:49:30.23
Russell Gibson
All right.

00:49:30.92
Adz
Yeah, okay.

00:49:30.93
Russell Gibson
Let's do this. Population 2,402 PSA silver is currently at So in the last year that's up seventy three percent which is

00:49:43.64
Adz
I was so wrong on it.

00:49:43.70
Russell Gibson
i think it's kind of funny in a way isn't it because yeah we would

00:49:49.27
Adz
Very wait.

00:49:49.94
Russell Gibson
quite out on this. In the last month, he's up 13%. The last three months up 23%. Let's look at the last two years.

00:49:56.19
Adz
Yeah.

00:49:57.19
Russell Gibson
That's probably going to give us the best amount of data.

00:49:58.87
Adz
Two years is a yeah, two years is pretty much the highest one is 2000 in May 20 at the end of May 2024.

00:50:06.49
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So if you chop that sort of peak out then between January 24 and And February 25, he was basically floating around 1,200 and quite overall you know level there.

00:50:23.93
Russell Gibson
After that time, he did have quite a peak and then he went down.

00:50:23.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:50:26.85
Russell Gibson
But then he's just kind from May 25, he's just basically just very consistently gone up. So i think Los Angeles has been kind to him.

00:50:33.50
Adz
Yeah.

00:50:37.30
Russell Gibson
i think he's been playing well. He's in fantastic shape.

00:50:41.64
Adz
He's been playing for some great basketball.

00:50:45.66
Russell Gibson
I think all the shade that you can throw at NBA players about not caring, not having good attitudes. like That guy cried when they traded him away from Dallas. like He cares about basketball deeply.

00:50:57.75
Adz
Yeah, he cares about the relationships he e builds, yeah.

00:50:58.26
Russell Gibson
I think you've got an i think you've got an absolute star in LA with this kid, honestly, man.

00:51:07.37
Adz
100%, couldn't agree more. It was, yeah.

00:51:11.03
Russell Gibson
So buy, hold, sell at $1,600. Let's just call it $1,700. Let's just round it up three bucks. Where are you at with this, buddy?

00:51:16.95
Adz
I cannot believe I'm saying this. Maybe I have, i've I've drunken all the Kool-Aid.

00:51:23.16
Russell Gibson
Drink it, man.

00:51:23.18
Adz
it's a buy It's a buy for me.

00:51:25.05
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:51:26.04
Adz
Given the pop count of Wemby's, 2000 is not that bad for Luca.

00:51:33.46
Russell Gibson
All right.

00:51:34.18
Adz
Here's a buy.

00:51:35.13
Russell Gibson
I tell you what. I think Luca as a whole is a buy.

00:51:39.77
Adz
Yeah.

00:51:40.09
Russell Gibson
But I'm going to say the same thing I said about Wemby cards. I don't want to buy silver. i want to buy something numbered. So just really quickly, the choice red numbered to 88.

00:51:46.61
Adz
Mm.

00:51:49.76
Russell Gibson
That's a population of 25 on the PSA 10.

00:51:52.03
Adz
Yep.

00:51:53.18
Russell Gibson
That last traded for $3,700. I know it is a price jump, b but it's not a price jump so far away that, you know what i mean?

00:51:57.34
Adz
Hi. Yeah.

00:52:04.12
Adz
It's impossible kind of thing.

00:52:05.08
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah.

00:52:05.32
Adz
Yeah.

00:52:05.72
Russell Gibson
So i would rather put my cash into something like that

00:52:09.46
Adz
Yeah.

00:52:10.46
Russell Gibson
Um, yeah, I personally have a Ruby wave and this has been so volatile that I don't even look at the prices anymore.

00:52:20.25
Adz
Yeah.

00:52:24.22
Russell Gibson
I reckon I'm probably a little bit upside down on this from, I bought this a couple of years ago. So I think looking at the trend on this now, it's gone down a little bit, but I bought this for, you know, a very long-term purchase.

00:52:36.47
Russell Gibson
So yeah, I probably should have put it into like a numbered as opposed to a colored.

00:52:37.05
Adz
yeah

00:52:40.98
Russell Gibson
um But I just didn't want to get into a silver. I think that's what was my concern at the time. i was like, the population on the silver is so high. This is 358.

00:52:51.22
Adz
Yeah.

00:52:51.54
Russell Gibson
You know what i mean? Like that was my thought process, but,

00:52:53.62
Adz
I've been, um' I'm digging around in the in the purple category because I love a good color match, as you know.

00:52:58.97
Russell Gibson
Yeah, you do love a color batch, man.

00:53:00.22
Adz
So the purple to 75, pop last 8,227. twenty seven The, where's the other one? There's two two other purples.

00:53:13.37
Adz
The purple wave is 1800, which has obviously been a spike since he was traded to the Lakers. ah What else is there? There is a fast break purple to 75, last sold for eight k

00:53:33.27
Adz
And then there's the Purple Ice, which last sold for $6,312, and that's numbered to $149.

00:53:40.09
Russell Gibson
I think those purchases are significant. Obviously they're more expensive, but I think they're much better.

00:53:45.66
Adz
The targeted numbered...

00:53:46.06
Russell Gibson
But yeah, I think if you can step up out of silvers and into that, I think you'll be much, much better off long-term.

00:53:54.89
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. and And look, it's the obviously the Fast Break Blue still an $8,000 card still. like He was drafted to Dallas, so...

00:54:02.88
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Really, really, really quickly, Giannis Antetokounmpo, population on his silver PSA 10 is 87, last traded for 7,500.

00:54:04.97
Adz
Yeah.

00:54:14.65
Russell Gibson
All time, he's actually down from $42,000 at his absolute peak in the last 12 months. So he's been pretty steady. Actually, he's up. The last 12 months, he's up 35%, which is really interesting to me because I actually would have thought

00:54:29.02
Adz
yeah

00:54:29.34
Russell Gibson
He would have been down. Oh, no. So what happened was if you scan out to the last two years, he was at 14K. It's come down and now it's recovered a little bit.

00:54:35.65
Adz
Yeah, so he's just he's bounced back a little bit.

00:54:38.58
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So if you bought in at that sort of $5,000 point, um you've done very, very well for yourself.

00:54:42.20
Adz
Yeah.

00:54:45.10
Russell Gibson
So congrats to you.

00:54:45.28
Adz
Yeah, he's tanked a little bit recently.

00:54:46.76
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:54:49.27
Russell Gibson
I want to do this one, which is a little bit of a a funny one ad, but it's been on the run sheet for a few weeks now.

00:54:56.42
Adz
Sure.

00:54:57.02
Russell Gibson
And I just want talk to talk about it. You might actually just blow it off really quickly. And that's totally fine if you do. um It's called Cheap Case Hits, The Next Day Non-Auto.

00:55:10.46
Russell Gibson
And so the reason why I'm bringing this up is because Donruss was a product that was traditionally beloved because it had the first on-card autograph from the rookies in it.

00:55:23.95
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:55:24.18
Russell Gibson
And it was a ah low-end product that had a high-end card return in it. So basically, you got one per case. But they were – like if you got the Luca, like that was $1,000 plus card out of at the time box.

00:55:35.29
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just the next day auto. yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:55:42.71
Russell Gibson
But then as the the war between Fanatics and Pinini broke out, Fanatics was signing up the rookies. Pinini didn't have that ability to do it anymore. So they essentially they did a non-autograph, but it was still a case hit.

00:55:56.86
Russell Gibson
So in terms of population, these cards are actually, i don't want to call them ultra rare, but it's actually a rare card.

00:56:03.52
Adz
What's a rookie next day is the is the is the Bronny one from Don Ross isn't it the note.

00:56:07.45
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so I've got that in the in the sold prices there.

00:56:08.50
Adz
I

00:56:11.05
Russell Gibson
So if you just scroll down a little bit through the eBay listings there, one recently sold for $11.50. So I suppose what I'm trying to, the narrative I'm trying to push here is, is this actually a buy?

00:56:17.11
Adz
like that.

00:56:21.78
Russell Gibson
Even though i think it leaves a lot of bad taste in people's announce because it should have an autograph on it.

00:56:29.02
Adz
Do you know what's funny? that's still That's still one of my, i and and this isn't to do with this ah segment, but the rate the one Wemby I want is the Nordograph.

00:56:38.42
Russell Gibson
Well, is now the time to buy it?

00:56:40.83
Adz
It's $1,000.

00:56:42.58
Russell Gibson
Is it? Wow.

00:56:47.93
Adz
Like, you look at the sales, it's it's ridiculous.

00:56:50.01
Russell Gibson
So a PSA 9 sold for $425 USD. That's wild, man, isn't it?

00:56:54.12
Adz
Yeah, yeah, I want it in a PSA 10, but it's over $1,000.

00:56:56.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:56:56.94
Adz
It's crazy. crazy

00:57:01.24
Adz
Yeah.

00:57:01.94
Russell Gibson
See, I wouldn't spend that on a card.

00:57:02.08
Adz
No,

00:57:04.95
Adz
I wouldn't.

00:57:05.75
Russell Gibson
I think i I was intrigued by these because I saw them going for really low prices.

00:57:09.08
Adz
I thought I would. Yeah.

00:57:10.78
Russell Gibson
That's what sort of piqued my interest. But now that you've just told me that, like that... Yeah, nah.

00:57:16.37
Adz
Yeah.

00:57:16.49
Russell Gibson
No thanks.

00:57:19.29
Adz
But as soon as there's a little bit of hype around something, the the prices go up, especially for graded cards though.

00:57:27.17
Russell Gibson
That's wild, man.

00:57:28.50
Adz
But the Bronny James stuff will still stay pretty cheap. He's not getting much game time, that's for sure.

00:57:33.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but I just think... You know, we talk about rare cards in the hobby and we talk about, you know, cards that are hard to find. And I think what I was trying to spin here is actually these are cheap and rare.

00:57:48.76
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:50.04
Russell Gibson
Is it worth a little bit of a set chase there? But yeah, at $400, yeah, no thanks. I'd probably rather like a second year or um like a ah Fanatics autograph from his rookie, even it hasn't got the Spurs logo on it.

00:58:08.44
Adz
Interesting, right?

00:58:08.49
Russell Gibson
Yeah. All right. Sell cheap cards is the next, this has been headlined. This is from Instagram, Biggie's rips. And what he's talking about here is, is his thought process around, he likes to buy up lots and then he likes to do buy so buy collections, sort them out, do single sales, do auctions, do whatnot sales.

00:58:22.39
Adz
Yep. By collections and

00:58:29.85
Russell Gibson
And he's basically saying he's return on investment, even though it's a lot more work.

00:58:36.31
Adz
is a higher percentage and makes more.

00:58:36.47
Russell Gibson
Um, Yeah. So he's basically saying he's getting at least 50%, if not more, and he's but on his investment.

00:58:41.99
Adz
Yeah.

00:58:44.89
Russell Gibson
And so I think this is really interesting because I feel like what we tend to see on Facebook groups is a lot of really big cards. And we sort of see bigger sellers sort of you know buying and selling.

00:58:53.66
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:58:56.48
Russell Gibson
And we see repackers you know buying and selling. But you don't really hear about you know the little guy sort of doing stuff like that sort of so much. So I thought this was a really good one.

00:59:06.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:06.81
Russell Gibson
Where are you at with this? Are you interested in buying and selling a whole bunch of small cards?

00:59:11.13
Adz
Well, it depends on the platform because i was trying to I was trying to articulate what he was doing and then I saw through the post he's on Whatnot. And so, i mean, I sell a little bit on eBay, but I couldn't imagine because the amount of work it takes to sell lots and lots and lots of little cards on eBay is quite arduous.

00:59:20.62
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

00:59:28.62
Adz
Like you, it's a lot. It's photos, it's this, it's that. Whereas on Whatnot, you're on a video stream and very quick.

00:59:36.02
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:59:36.12
Adz
So maybe it maybe it is. Maybe I need to download Whatnot and start start that shenanigans.

00:59:40.78
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:59:41.08
Adz
Or eBay Live, which is happening.

00:59:44.44
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:59:45.82
Adz
But yeah, like, I don't know, if you if you can put a little bit of extra effort in to get a a better return, I think it's a good idea if you've got the time. You don't want it to be consuming and and stressful for you.

01:00:00.09
Adz
um But i think it's I think there is money to be made in the in the in the in the the cheaper card space.

01:00:07.48
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I think for me, it's it's about time allocation. Like I've got my fingers in so many other different pies at the moment and just the age of my kids and, you know, whatever.

01:00:12.22
Adz
hundred percent Yeah, time.

01:00:17.70
Russell Gibson
And so, you know, doing the podcast, like that's that's sort of my like, that's my so soiree into the hobby at the moment. And so I think when guys do stuff like this, I think you have to enjoy it.

01:00:28.61
Russell Gibson
So I think if you're going to,

01:00:29.98
Adz
You need to love doing what you're doing.

01:00:31.64
Russell Gibson
Right. You have to enjoy sorting. You have to enjoy you know getting $1 or $2. I think there's a horses for courses. So when I see guys doing this and they find their spot in the hobby, I'm like, fuck yeah, man.

01:00:40.15
Adz
like that, yeah.

01:00:43.64
Russell Gibson
like if you know If this is what you enjoy, it's fantastic. like you know Keep doing it. so um i mean, Joe Fu does it. That's the guy that we know personally who goes out, buys out lots, you know flips cards out and yeah.

01:00:54.18
Adz
100%, But he also uses it to fund his his acquisitions of of the biggest shack.

01:01:02.29
Russell Gibson
A hundred percent. I'm sure this guy's doing it too, man.

01:01:03.99
Adz
Yeah, yeah, and it's Phil, it's, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.

01:01:04.79
Russell Gibson
hundred percent. Yep. Yeah. This is for you, buddy. Kobe to close.

01:01:11.99
Adz
Kobe, to close, which one have we got?

01:01:14.70
Russell Gibson
I'm not going to say anything. I'm just going to sit back and listen to you break this one down.

01:01:18.84
Adz
um know um You're going to break my heart, aren't you? I knew what you were going to 2013 Innovation Kobe Bryant Kaboom.

01:01:28.15
Russell Gibson
Hang on a second. What?

01:01:29.72
Adz
but Remember the fake Kaboom I got? It was like a year ago.

01:01:32.51
Russell Gibson
Oh, no, it didn't even it didn't even click.

01:01:32.94
Adz
It was a year ago. was a while ago now.

01:01:35.41
Russell Gibson
No, that's – sorry, mate. But no, and no.

01:01:38.84
Adz
Kobe Kabooms will always be stuck in my heart with stake.

01:01:41.14
Russell Gibson
Oh, okay, so no matter, the the trauma will be there.

01:01:43.67
Adz
the traumaub's the The trauma just bubbles to the surface.

01:01:43.78
Russell Gibson
Okay, sure. Yep. Yep.

01:01:47.03
Adz
It's a sick-looking card. Love it.

01:01:49.25
Russell Gibson
Yep.

01:01:49.78
Adz
2013, as I said, innovation. Kobe Bryant, number nine. Should be number eight, let's be fair. um Kaboom PSA 10, last sold for $51,376. Definitely not a Wondershine purchase because of the incredibly abnormal final sale amount and the the low value, I guess. Pop count on it is $22,000.

01:02:10.68
Russell Gibson
I think you have to go through the sales history from the last couple of years, man, because that is significant.

01:02:16.63
Adz
two All right, so

01:02:21.09
Adz
50K mark is is recent.

01:02:23.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:02:23.71
Adz
30K earlier in the year, we've gone 2024. It was hovering around that Back in COVID, spiked to thirty k again.

01:02:31.38
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:02:39.16
Adz
but in two thousand and nineteen you could have picked this card up for a hundred and fifty dollars

01:02:46.87
Russell Gibson
but That is, yeah, that's wild.

01:02:53.26
Adz
Hobby regrets. We're going to go back to earlier in the show. Hobby regrets.

01:02:55.86
Russell Gibson
Maybe this is the hobby regret, isn't it?

01:02:55.98
Adz
I didn't just, just not buying kabooms in, in 10 years ago.

01:02:59.38
Russell Gibson
Why weren't we buying Kabooms? yeah

01:03:01.83
Adz
Yeah.

01:03:02.94
Russell Gibson
Well, it's not even 10 years, man. It's like six years ago. Yeah.

01:03:06.09
Adz
10 years ago, you could have picked it up 50 bucks anyway.

01:03:10.87
Adz
Wow. Good card though.

01:03:12.94
Russell Gibson
That's a banger.

01:03:16.70
Russell Gibson
Thank you, Adam.

01:03:18.52
Adz
Thank you for, for another great show.

01:03:21.34
Russell Gibson
Thank you. Thank you to all our listeners out there on all the different podcast platforms. We've been having a lot more activity lately in that space. So thank you everyone to that. Thank you to our listeners on Central Coast Radio.

01:03:32.30
Russell Gibson
We keep saying this the last couple of weeks, but we say it genuinely. We really appreciate you guys tuning in.

01:03:36.98
Adz
Yeah.

01:03:38.58
Russell Gibson
Canada, America, in Southeast Asia. it's It's fantastic. It really does help us out a lot. ah We said we're going to fix this up last week. We haven't done any work on it.

01:03:49.07
Russell Gibson
We do have a buy us a coffee feature on our podcast description.

01:03:54.42
Adz
that's fun bo for it yeah

01:03:55.11
Russell Gibson
If you want to send us a few dollars to say thank you for doing the pod, we would love that. We'll probably put it towards advertising or you know something along those lines. um Probably buying basketball cards too.

01:04:06.68
Adz
Look, we'll wait until everybody's got through the Black Friday sales, Christmas buying and all the rest of it before we go and hassle them and ask them to buy us a coffee.

01:04:10.46
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's

01:04:14.71
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's it.

01:04:15.00
Adz
um But yes, and by then, hopefully by then, our New Year's resolution will be to get an actual bit of scripting so we can explain things so much clearer.

01:04:23.83
Russell Gibson
A little bit better.

01:04:24.12
Adz
um But yes, thank you everybody, everybody for the support.

01:04:25.37
Russell Gibson
But other than that, yeah.

01:04:28.10
Adz
Doesn't matter where you listen to the the show or tune in from, be it live on the YouTube, watching it back on YouTube, watching our our shorts on YouTube, going to Instagram and seeing bits of it.

01:04:32.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:04:39.29
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:04:40.38
Adz
Central Coast Radio everywhere. And of course, all the all the standard podcast platforms. Thank you so much for your support.

01:04:47.16
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:04:47.64
Adz
Thank you, Russell, for another great show. And we will see you all next week for the Big 250.

01:04:49.53
Russell Gibson
Thank you, mate.

01:04:54.18
Russell Gibson
Peace, guys.