Episode 259 – Farewell Adz, PSA Fee Hikes, Grading Delays & Market Shockwaves

It’s the end of an era. After 4+ years co-hosting You Can’t Comp This Podcast, Adz says farewell in episode 259. 

Russell and Adz break down:
• PSA’s immediate grading fee increases (AUD) – bulk under $500 now $50
• The Sports Cards Radio slurs “PackMan” 
• Trade deadline: no Giannis move, no Ja Morant move, Sochan to Knicks, Cam Thomas to Bucks
• Major sales: LeBron Blank Slate PSA 10, Jordan Exquisite BGS 8, Steph Curry rookie auto BGS 8.5
• Paul George suspension update, Damian Lillard’s 3PT contest win, Pistons-Hornets scuffle, and more 

A fast-paced, news-packed final episode. Thank you Adz. 

Transcript

00:00:10.26
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 259 of the UConn Conference NBA Trading Card Podcast. We host Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson.

00:00:23.56
Adz
It's All-Star Weekend.

00:00:25.46
Russell Gibson
Is it?

00:00:25.60
Adz
We're so excited. You know what? Watching the AFL State of Origin feels much more exciting than All-Star Weekend. I'm sorry, but...

00:00:36.95
Russell Gibson
I mean, my confession is I haven't watched a second of it so far, so I do apologize.

00:00:40.67
Adz
Yeah. I'll watch the recap on YouTube, like when I'm really bored or need to go to sleep, I'm sure.

00:00:46.30
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I'll definitely watch some highlights, but um I'll wait for the All-Star Game to finish to see whether I watch it or not, to be honest. I definitely won't be watching it live. um this week psa increasing fees sports card radio with some excellent um racial slurs night vision pack odds this is actually from a ah facebook group which i picked that up on just stuff i missed out on last week so trade deadline no yana's trade no jar trade Jeremy Sochan's moved on. Cam Thomas has moved on. We've got some really cool sales to talk about. We've got a LeBron blank slate, a Jordan exquisite, Steph Curry, and then just sort of general NBA news. But I think the biggest news of this week is going to come from in-house ads.

00:01:33.05
Adz
Yes. um God, it's ah it's ah it's one of those things you sort of, you get to the moment, you don't know how to say it. um This will be my last episode of You Can't Comp This as as a co-host.

00:01:45.88
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:01:46.01
Adz
um I'd like to hope that in the event that Luca wins the MVP, that we'll have a special dedication to Luca Doncic. Yeah.

00:01:54.01
Russell Gibson
Do you mean Jersey burning or do you mean you coming back on?

00:01:55.99
Adz
No, no, the ce the celebration, the celebration and and guest appearance to talk about the the the great Luka Doncic.

00:01:58.68
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. yeah Yeah.

00:02:05.56
Adz
I mean, the journey started a long time ago and it wasn't the great Luka Doncic. It was the overrated Luka Doncic, but and know, here's here's hoping.

00:02:11.66
Russell Gibson
That's all right. We've all changed and evolved. Haven't we? Yeah.

00:02:14.90
Adz
Exactly, exactly. um Yeah, look, it's it's been a long time. I've loved this last four years. It's been a hell of a ride. Get to know so many people. Obviously, yourself, Russell, every Sunday, hanging out, talking cards has been fantastic. All the the dinners, which won't stop seeing Al, Joe,

00:02:35.46
Adz
Scotty, people at the at the conventions, albeit card shows still. So please, listeners, it's been awesome getting your comments, speaking to you at shows, and I'll be at the Hobby Hangout, I'll be at the National, I'll be at random trade days. So yeah, by all means, please come come up, say hello, ask me about my current thoughts on Luca and LeBron if you want me to get me triggered.

00:02:59.74
Adz
um Yeah, no always up for a chat. Obviously, I'm still on socials and um yeah, yeah, I'm sure we'll see what's next.

00:03:10.04
Adz
But um at the moment, life's getting in the way. So time to time.

00:03:12.79
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Step back a bit and focus on other things.

00:03:16.25
Adz
Yeah.

00:03:17.42
Russell Gibson
And yeah, would definitely second pretty much everything you just said then. It's been, it's kind of crazy to think like it's just been a every Sunday night for the last, what sort of four years pretty much.

00:03:20.79
Adz
Yeah.

00:03:27.77
Adz
Yeah.

00:03:28.01
Russell Gibson
So yeah.

00:03:28.13
Adz
Yeah. It's been for four, four, it's pushing four and a half. I'd say four, we'll say four to be for good measure, but the official pods for, but four years, three months, I think. So

00:03:37.75
Russell Gibson
like i know you I know you're leaving, but at the same time, I still haven't got my head around it.

00:03:41.69
Adz
yeah, know. Right. Like, it's all right. I'm still in the group chat, ah it's which will be on mute more than likely, but,

00:03:43.18
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:03:49.30
Adz
because everybody knows that I have that on mute.

00:03:49.91
Russell Gibson
Anyway,

00:03:51.42
Adz
Anyway, without further ado, let's see how many segues we can get to in my last appearance.

00:03:53.58
Russell Gibson
let's get onto it. Yeah. Because

00:03:59.22
Russell Gibson
that's it.

00:03:59.32
Adz
No, I love a segue.

00:04:00.86
Russell Gibson
Look, I think we've, you know, the best thing to start with then really is just PSA increasing their grading prices. So effective and virtually immediately.

00:04:09.75
Adz
Yeah.

00:04:11.03
Russell Gibson
February, 2026, they've increased their pricing. So I can run through a couple of the prices. I won't run through every single one, but under $500 bulk was 45. Now it's going to be 50.

00:04:22.01
Russell Gibson
These are AUD prices, by the way, people are under plus.

00:04:23.83
Adz
Yeah.

00:04:27.66
Russell Gibson
So it's gone from to and then under has gone from So

00:04:34.68
Adz
Okay.

00:04:34.87
Russell Gibson
i think

00:04:35.00
Adz
Yeah.

00:04:37.62
Russell Gibson
You know, the actual dollar value isn't a huge amount of money depending on the card that you're grading. So if you're grading low end, it's a really big deal.

00:04:47.64
Adz
Yeah.

00:04:48.47
Russell Gibson
If you're grading high end cards, I kind of feel like you're not going to notice this almost at all. And so I think this particular, the way they've done the fee increase It's very much to deter people sending in all that low end stuff, which we I feel like we've had this conversation at least once before, maybe even twice before.

00:05:10.71
Adz
Yeah.

00:05:11.64
Russell Gibson
And so, i mean, look, there's a part of me that would love to see the price go down, but I think considering the number of cards that are being sent in every day, every week, every month, and then the number of cards that they're grading,

00:05:13.54
Adz
there's all been it's It's one of those natural things, like it's always going to happen.

00:05:29.09
Adz
Yeah.

00:05:31.32
Russell Gibson
that they're pumping out. I think that's the only way to say it. And then the other thing to add onto that too is the wait time, just how that's recently blown out significantly to the to the point that they they're not guaranteeing anything at at all anymore, even like the you know the express times ah reportedly have been quite slow.

00:05:39.64
Adz
Yeah.

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Adz
Yeah.

00:05:51.13
Russell Gibson
So I think the only thing they can really do to manage that At some point, you can't hire any more people. At some point, you can't grow your storage out anymore. You can't you know get more floor space.

00:06:02.12
Russell Gibson
At some point, you just have to increase your pricing. And so i personally think that's what they're doing here is to deter people sending in cards, which I don't have a massive problem with, particularly on that low end stuff, which I think is what's going to be most effective here.

00:06:04.94
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:15.05
Adz
It's interesting that it's just PSA because PSA, given they own the other two could increase Beckett's pricing could increase. Who's the other one they own is GC is yeah.

00:06:24.86
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Well, I think the reason for that, there is,

00:06:26.89
Adz
andre done they're They're busy, they're busy burying them rather than making them more profitable.

00:06:32.36
Russell Gibson
well, I mean, allegedly they're still going to be wanting to improve technology. BGS, but at the same time too, they're not getting the same amount of numbers.

00:06:38.77
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:40.74
Russell Gibson
So for example, this is from GemRate, at GemRate on Twitter.

00:06:41.51
Adz
Yeah,

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Russell Gibson
Follow this guys if you're a stats nerd. In 2025, PSA graded 19 million cards, CGC 4.9 million, SGC 1.4 and Beckett less than a million. And so...

00:06:58.55
Russell Gibson
I don't see there's no, what's the benefit in them increasing the grading fee on SGC and Beckett. Maybe what you would try and do is try and push some of those lower end cards back to Beckett or back to SGC.

00:07:09.27
Adz
yeah yeah, definitely.

00:07:09.59
Russell Gibson
that That would make sense, right?

00:07:11.06
Adz
Yeah, that's true. and But this is the thing, right? You go those numbers, 19 million cards, $5 increase $100 million. dollars

00:07:19.00
Russell Gibson
Yeah. It's good money.

00:07:19.90
Adz
How crazy. Like, it's just they turn the dial up and they can, I mean, you'd you'd want to see to get something from it.

00:07:21.34
Russell Gibson
yeah It's good money for them. Yeah. Yeah.

00:07:27.13
Adz
Extra graders, bigger a facilities, something.

00:07:29.57
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Or they've got shareholders and people that have invested into the company. ah you know the Those guys have to get rich somehow.

00:07:34.08
Adz
mean, we will.

00:07:37.88
Russell Gibson
So yeah, what else do we need to say about this? I feel like we've covered all the big spots here, but I think the last thing we have to mention is just there's a monopoly now. They've got a complete monopoly, even if they increase the pricing on all three.

00:07:48.76
Russell Gibson
like Where are you going to send your cards to anyway? The only...

00:07:51.48
Adz
Well, there's nowhere where else to send your cards.

00:07:53.30
Russell Gibson
The only independent one left now is CGC and tag, but looking at the tag numbers, like they're so, you can't even really, I'm surprised Ryan's put them on the top four, to be honest.

00:07:53.56
Adz
like it's

00:08:04.10
Adz
Well, you've got to put whatever's next, I guess. I mean, it it but it shows.

00:08:06.10
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:08:08.07
Adz
If the bottom couple in the top four are questioned as to why on earth you're even putting them there, that just gives further evidence to the monopoly we've got.

00:08:20.01
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:08:20.50
Adz
And i'd ah as much as PSA is like the the grading service, I don't see just the one grader being a good thing for the hobby.

00:08:26.61
Russell Gibson
No,

00:08:32.23
Adz
i I fail to see how a monopoly that is very manipulatable and controllable is is a positive thing for this hobby. I don't know.

00:08:43.16
Adz
But I don't know any action is going to taken. Like I don't see a change in anything.

00:08:47.90
Russell Gibson
no.

00:08:49.34
Adz
This is the new normal.

00:08:51.22
Russell Gibson
So I found this, this is a Twitter exchange at Five Royal Man, and he sent a card on 10 day express at 24 days.

00:08:57.62
Adz
Bye.

00:08:59.14
Russell Gibson
He sent an email asking why. And the response he got was, I understand how nerve wracking it can be waiting for your order to complete. And I'm sorry that taken longer than expected.

00:09:09.81
Russell Gibson
dotda dotdada um Please keep in mind that all processing times are estimates and not guaranteed. So an order may complete before after the estimate based on factors so such as submission volume, capacity, and other unforeseen circumstances.

00:09:25.50
Adz
Hang on, hang hang on.

00:09:25.75
Russell Gibson
Additionally,

00:09:26.66
Adz
but 10 days and they're saying it depends on anything. No, it doesn't matter.

00:09:30.94
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:09:31.98
Adz
If you're in the 10-day service, you get put to the top of the pile.

00:09:36.33
Russell Gibson
Well, the next thing that I think is interesting, though, there is no set processing time for each step tracked in the status bar. So please don't be alarmed if your order remains at a particular step for an extended period. It is due to a current volume of submissions that PSA is receiving and processing.

00:09:49.55
Russell Gibson
So like that's an ultimate sort of get out of jail card for me for free. And I haven't actually put this into the run sheet, but this is probably the perfect segue now too. There was a video that came up on Instagram this week where a guy paid goods and services for...

00:09:58.51
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:10:04.41
Russell Gibson
a whole bunch of Pokemon cards and they've PayPal have just recently put in a new TNC to say that if you're reselling the item, they won't honor the goods and services insurance component.

00:10:06.17
Adz
ye

00:10:16.17
Russell Gibson
So he got dotted out of his money for the cards. Like the guy never posted them. And when he went to do a charge back, they said like they wouldn't honor the charge back just based on him.

00:10:28.12
Russell Gibson
So it's like, just an,

00:10:29.66
Adz
Buying resold goods.

00:10:31.86
Russell Gibson
If you're buying it to resell it and they know that, cause he's a well-known card flipper within the community.

00:10:35.80
Adz
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

00:10:37.84
Russell Gibson
They said then that particular transaction doesn't meet the terms of PayPal goods and services.

00:10:44.95
Adz
I would think that's um very, very gray and would scream legal action because that doesn't seem like it would be a breach of terms. buying If you're buying anything, whether what the intent to do afterwards, that doesn't seem.

00:10:58.65
Russell Gibson
I think that they've had an enormous amount of problems with trading cards over the year.

00:11:01.44
Adz
Oh, the chargeback stuff with trading cards is cooked.

00:11:03.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah. and I think for, you know, for PayPal, it's just not worth their while. So this is just something to protect them and their own business injur interests, but it's just another way to get scammed in the hobby.

00:11:10.17
Adz
Yeah.

00:11:13.49
Russell Gibson
That's how I feel about this. It's the same sort of thing with PSA, you know, it's just someone else has taken money out your pocket.

00:11:14.94
Adz
Yeah.

00:11:18.30
Adz
but yeah Yeah. Sounds like, well, the the PSA guarantee doesn't apply to turnaround times.

00:11:19.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:11:25.14
Russell Gibson
It does not.

00:11:26.01
Adz
Yeah.

00:11:27.38
Russell Gibson
All right. So this next one, we're not going to go into this a lot. All right. So let's just check the timer out. And once we get to three or four minutes, we'll just hard stop this because there's no need for us to really go into it.

00:11:35.71
Adz
Yeah.

00:11:38.54
Russell Gibson
But this was something that was said on sports cards.

00:11:45.94
Russell Gibson
Sports cards radio. And look, I know who they are. i wouldn't say that I listened to oodles of their content. they They basically stream for three hours at a time. I'd like the amount of content they pump out is insane.

00:11:54.97
Adz
Yeah.

00:11:57.85
Adz
yeah

00:11:58.17
Russell Gibson
And they were responding to Pac-Man. putting pressure onto people to buy into their, that remember that massive, we've talked about this, that the 20 box break, 20 case break that they did of, of midnight.

00:12:12.38
Adz
Yeah.

00:12:12.63
Russell Gibson
And when the single player spots were 5,000 plus, and then he was freaking out because people.

00:12:16.98
Adz
You're just losing losing his mind.

00:12:18.26
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:12:18.85
Adz
Like having a bit of a break. I paid money for like it's the ah the the vendor attacking the customer because they're not feeling it.

00:12:24.73
Russell Gibson
Right. And so there was a there was a lot of fallout from that.

00:12:26.87
Adz
Yeah,

00:12:28.30
Russell Gibson
And then so the response from Sports Cards Radio was that to they essentially name call him. And I'm not going to say the whole slur, but they said pencil neck, slant eye, mother effer.

00:12:35.49
Adz
yeah.

00:12:40.61
Russell Gibson
And so... It's an interesting one because, and this was pointed out, you know, really, really well by a couple of other social media people that like, why wasn't this picked up?

00:12:44.84
Adz
Okay.

00:12:52.32
Russell Gibson
Why hasn't this been made into ah like a bit bigger of a deal? And I think there's a few reasons for that. I would probably say the first one was, I think the precedent has been set within the hobby with backyard breaks. Cause remember that guy who said he was going to um get implants for his daughter and then put her into a an OnlyFans site to make money or for it.

00:13:13.62
Russell Gibson
So like something along those lines.

00:13:14.51
Adz
There's some low bars that have been set in the hobby.

00:13:18.17
Russell Gibson
Right. So I feel like once that's been said, which in my mind, both things are inappropriate. I'm i'm not defending ah either party here, but I feel like once the stripper thing's been established, like everything else from that of your own daughter, it's kind of like, it's easier to swallow.

00:13:25.91
Adz
Yeah, 100%.

00:13:31.96
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:13:34.17
Russell Gibson
So I wonder if that's, you know, where that's kind of come in. There's another influencer called Denny and he's a, um look, to be honest, i actually don't know his true nationality, but let's just call him Asian American.

00:13:47.42
Adz
Yeah.

00:13:47.86
Russell Gibson
And his post was, and it was actually very interesting. His post was, don't be offended for me. If I choose to be offended, like i will be, because he wasn't offended by the post.

00:13:59.00
Russell Gibson
And so, and that's an issue. Like I have a Singaporean wife and there's a,

00:14:04.02
Adz
<unk> It's just, there's no place for slurs on just,

00:14:08.09
Russell Gibson
But that know that where so where I'm going with this though, and I wonder if this is actually applying to this scenario too, is that, so my wife, there's an Asian slur that begins with G. i don't feel like I need to say it onto the show, but she actually didn't realize. So she told me that when she was growing up, people would use the G slur against her, but she didn't understand what it meant.

00:14:28.34
Adz
Okay.

00:14:29.40
Russell Gibson
And this one here, I think most people would understand what the slur is, but I feel like there's also a I think sometimes when people say slurs, they're hoping to create a response, but they're not always going to get one.

00:14:39.82
Russell Gibson
And so, for example, you know, my wife's situation, you know, she never gave a response because she didn't understand it.

00:14:42.08
Adz
Mm-mm.

00:14:45.34
Russell Gibson
In that Denny's guy situation, he he just doesn't care. Like he understands what it means, but it's just not getting a response from it. So I think there's also that part of it too, where we, if you just, if you're not offended, you're not offended.

00:14:53.18
Adz
Trying to diffuse it by i just playing it down, going...

00:14:58.29
Russell Gibson
And so like, it's just sort of you know duck off the water's back, you know,

00:15:01.46
Adz
Yeah, yeah. yeah By saying you're not offended, you're saying, whatever, I don't care what you did. So it's trying to diffuse out the impact of the work.

00:15:06.88
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I think that means, you know, and I think this is what I want to talk to you about. I personally feel like stuff like this, if you don't like what these people are saying, you know don't tune into their content.

00:15:18.71
Adz
hundred percent agree

00:15:19.80
Russell Gibson
If you don't like backyard breaks and the way they roll, don't give them your money. And then Pac-Man, if you don't like Pac-Man stuff, I'm going to roll all these three guys all into the same sentence.

00:15:23.80
Adz
Yeah.

00:15:28.44
Russell Gibson
Like, frankly, I find all their behavior like...

00:15:31.45
Adz
Yeah, it's horrible.

00:15:31.96
Russell Gibson
To me, this is not what I'm here for. you know it's like So don't give your money to Pac-Man. Don't give your clicks to SportsCards Radio. And like don't even join Backyard Breaks' as fees. I mean, like what are we talking about here?

00:15:43.02
Russell Gibson
so

00:15:43.16
Adz
Yeah, yeah. I think the the only the only minor difference is that when someone in a public setting, and and these streams are relatively public, When you make a racial slur, it's not about the person, it's about the race. So anyone from that race can be offended.

00:15:58.04
Russell Gibson
Yeah, for sure.

00:15:58.17
Adz
and that and And that's where the impact comes from. So, yeah, I just don't know why people are so stupid, to be be blunt about it. Yeah,

00:16:05.85
Russell Gibson
I think that's their shtick though. Their shtick is to like say stuff. Cause then the following week they made some, some comment about, um, Snipes.

00:16:11.35
Adz
yeah, 100%. Yep.

00:16:15.83
Russell Gibson
I don't even want to say this in case I say it wrong, but he, the cultural hat that he wears on top of his head, you know, so like they're back at it again, you know, less than a week later.

00:16:17.02
Adz
ye

00:16:23.74
Adz
Yeah,

00:16:24.62
Russell Gibson
Like that's just their shtick.

00:16:24.98
Adz
Trying to be controversial to try and get reactions because all publicity is good publicity.

00:16:26.27
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:16:29.41
Russell Gibson
Yeah. right. We've done that. Haven't we? That's enough.

00:16:32.21
Adz
Yeah, we went for five minutes, but I think so.

00:16:34.07
Russell Gibson
Did we really? Yeah, right.

00:16:41.10
Russell Gibson
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00:16:53.94
Russell Gibson
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00:17:22.14
Russell Gibson
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00:17:36.73
Russell Gibson
number to 50 SGA number to 12 Larry bird on card autograph number to 20.

00:17:39.45
Adz
Nice.

00:17:42.14
Russell Gibson
I actually don't mind some of this midnight stuff. It's just the pricing that freaks me out. Dylan Harper to 35. And they also got a midnight oils moonrise parallel of SGA, which is actually a redemption.

00:17:53.34
Russell Gibson
So check out neon trading cards.com.

00:18:02.07
Russell Gibson
And we are back. Adam, are you ah up to date with your beverage?

00:18:06.39
Adz
I am. I'm sufficiently hydrated, i think would be the term.

00:18:09.94
Russell Gibson
Excellent. All righty. Giannis didn't get traded. I think this is like for me, the biggest one I was genuinely expecting this guy to be dealt. And we've done a couple of stories on this over this NBA season already. So the bucks came back with an amazing,

00:18:24.85
Russell Gibson
um clap back at Shams. Just in, conversations have started about Shams' future and discussing whether ESPN senior inside traders' best fit is staying on Giannis' all-star celebrity team or elsewhere.

00:18:37.66
Russell Gibson
i personally think he should be elsewhere. I think after all the tweets he put out about Giannis being moved on, it's only fair that he gets... Yeah.

00:18:46.88
Adz
Oh, that's so, it's such a troll back at at at Shams after, because the spotlight was on him for the whole trade period. Now, we know that Milwaukee had had put, put it said he's on the block,

00:19:01.75
Adz
but they're not, they're not, they're not chasing a deal.

00:19:06.20
Adz
they they They weren't happy with it. They're going to get more offers at the end of this season. this is the whole This is the whole thing. A lot of teams were doing there what they were doing, to free up cap space and do all the rest of it.

00:19:18.01
Adz
It's just the best thing in the Milwaukee Bucks, in their interest, to to wait until the offseason. Wait until everyone can put their hat in the ring.

00:19:27.42
Russell Gibson
So do you believe that they just didn't get the offer that the Bucks wanted or do you believe?

00:19:32.02
Adz
I think Giannis wasn't happy about what was put on the table. I think there's a lot of talk around it because the optics for Milwaukee have to be good.

00:19:41.30
Russell Gibson
So do you, did you hear that rumor that he's joined Calci as a shareholder?

00:19:46.61
Adz
Oh, interesting.

00:19:47.64
Russell Gibson
Do you know what this Cal, do you know what Calci is before we go too much more?

00:19:49.27
Adz
No.

00:19:50.28
Russell Gibson
All right. So basically what it is, it's a betting loophole. where it's not a not a gambling platform because you're not actually gambling on outcomes.

00:19:54.84
Adz
God.

00:19:58.82
Adz
I don't know.

00:20:02.01
Russell Gibson
um It's a, I'm not even sure the right word, it's an opportunity thing where you can place money down and it can be on things. So for example, will the president say what three times in his speech?

00:20:15.16
Russell Gibson
And if that happens, then you can claim money back on that. The other thing too is,

00:20:18.27
Adz
That's degenerate gambling.

00:20:20.22
Russell Gibson
You put the money up and then people can then bet against you.

00:20:20.29
Adz
yeah

00:20:22.98
Russell Gibson
So he's become like a a shareholder in that. So the rumor around it was, no, Giannis has.

00:20:27.72
Adz
Shams has.

00:20:29.71
Russell Gibson
So the rumor, like the you know the deep conspiracy there is that he created all this trade rumors.

00:20:29.88
Adz
ah okay.

00:20:35.91
Russell Gibson
People put money up against it.

00:20:38.44
Adz
Hmm.

00:20:38.55
Russell Gibson
he He took the money the the opposite way and then became a shareholder in it.

00:20:38.66
Adz
Hmm.

00:20:42.75
Russell Gibson
And then it was like, you know, promoting himself into that. And so-

00:20:45.69
Adz
To be fair, I think Giannis earns enough money not to give a fat rats about winning money on stuff like this. But...

00:20:53.11
Russell Gibson
I would actually beg to differ on that, right? Because how many of these and NBA players, like Billups, dude,

00:20:57.82
Adz
Oh, yeah, yeah, we know the gambling habits that some of them get into. Jordan was a degenerate gambler. So, yeah.

00:21:02.48
Russell Gibson
Billups has vaporized. When was the last time you heard the word Chauncey Billups be murmured in NBA circles?

00:21:08.79
Adz
Yeah, true.

00:21:09.62
Russell Gibson
Like, it just is he just hasn't come back.

00:21:12.70
Adz
Yeah.

00:21:12.82
Russell Gibson
no No announcement. No, like there's an investigation pending. We're looking into this. We're doing that. We're giving him counseling. Nothing gone. You know, for all we know, he could be in like the bottom of a river with concrete attached to his ankles.

00:21:25.43
Adz
but the amount of money Giannis is on. Like, ah just think it's Giannis.

00:21:30.52
Russell Gibson
All right. So my next question to you is why wasn't Jamarant traded? That's the really interesting one for me.

00:21:36.47
Adz
Really?

00:21:37.21
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:21:38.58
Adz
i ah

00:21:39.67
Russell Gibson
So they bottomed out their team. They got rid of Triple J, which I don't understand that. ah If you're going to train somebody, I'll be like, move Jara keep Triple J. Like, what did that guy do?

00:21:49.82
Adz
I've hang on.

00:21:50.71
Russell Gibson
What misstep did he put through?

00:21:50.74
Adz
I've got.

00:21:52.11
Russell Gibson
I don't understand that at all. The story that Windhorse reported after the trade deadline was that teams weren't offering value to the Grizzlies.

00:22:02.32
Russell Gibson
They were asking the Grizzlies to give them future compensation. So what I mean by that is it's Ja Morant and also a future first-round pick from Memphis State going to Miami.

00:22:12.07
Adz
Mm Mm hmm.

00:22:13.62
Russell Gibson
So they weren't getting any value. They actually had to pay people to take JAMA and away. That's how low his trade value was.

00:22:18.81
Adz
Well, that.

00:22:21.50
Adz
the the man The problem is matching his salary. Like, and for for what he what he is at the moment, the $39 million dollars a year price tag is just not worth it.

00:22:31.33
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I think the heat is born to make trades. Like all of the contracts that they've got, ah like they're, you know what I mean?

00:22:37.59
Adz
no

00:22:39.86
Russell Gibson
Like I think all that is there already, but It's just crazy to me that he's stock has fallen.

00:22:45.39
Adz
Enjoy.

00:22:45.95
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:22:46.33
Adz
in Injuries, reputation with the the gun stuff, right?

00:22:49.08
Russell Gibson
Oh, his reputation ruined. Yeah.

00:22:51.17
Adz
Speaking out, not just as the reputation on social media, but speaking out against the team. So he's hit two strikes with that. And then it's it's the injuries of the cream, like the cherry on the top.

00:23:03.90
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:23:04.66
Adz
There's no,

00:23:05.69
Russell Gibson
The gun stuff is pretty hard to move past.

00:23:08.09
Adz
like the glass isn't half empty. It's empty.

00:23:11.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:23:12.15
Adz
Like they keep taking swigs. Jack keeps taking swigs out of the glass. It's well beyond half empty. So I'm not surprised that no one made a desperate move. um reckon the Wizards might've made a stupid move if they didn't already get Trey Young, but they already, they already did it by getting a bunch of injured stars.

00:23:33.11
Russell Gibson
Yeah. i I mean, I'm just really quickly while you're talking, like, Jar Morant for Tyler Hero nearly works one for one. Like, it's almost, their salary is very, very close.

00:23:46.49
Adz
but ah But even Miami says no to that, though.

00:23:51.93
Adz
Do you know what i mean? Like, they'd have to give it aid they'd have to give it a little bit more of a piece to to make the money work. I just...

00:23:59.13
Russell Gibson
I still think he's worth the upside risk though, man.

00:23:59.38
Adz
Why would you...

00:24:02.20
Adz
But if the man plays 45 games a season because he keeps throwing himself into the game and hurting himself, he's these there's no value there.

00:24:12.18
Russell Gibson
So Ja Morant for Tyler Harrow, Drew Smith just works straight up. So then you put some picks in going to Miami, like whatever.

00:24:16.31
Adz
Nice.

00:24:19.10
Russell Gibson
I still think that's crazy.

00:24:21.29
Adz
I know. I, yeah. I think Tyler Hero is the much better player and Miami says no.

00:24:29.69
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:24:31.22
Adz
But I guess, I guess I'm just out on jar. Like I'm, He got over the gun stuff and then he spoke out against the coach. I'm like, what's wrong with you? And then he keeps getting injured because he said he wasn't going to throw his body at every things again. And then he kept doing it.

00:24:44.73
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:24:45.24
Adz
Like he just doesn't learn.

00:24:48.15
Russell Gibson
I think I've turned so much on jar that I'm at the point now where I'm like, I think he's stock has fallen so far that I think he's good value.

00:24:58.10
Adz
and it's a three-year deal. So they've got him for like two more years on top. Yeah.

00:25:02.74
Russell Gibson
So he's currently trading at $200 for a silver PSA 10 population on that. It's 1,789.

00:25:08.34
Adz
Well,

00:25:08.82
Russell Gibson
think for 200 bucks, like i wouldn't invest everything you've got into it. i actually saw one on Zion. We're going to segue design. This has got nothing to do with the.

00:25:19.04
Adz
it's got to be like, shouldn't the the trade on the table being straight up Zion for Jart?

00:25:24.54
Russell Gibson
but I saw

00:25:24.97
Adz
Memphis get an expiring jo Zion. That would have been perfect.

00:25:27.99
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so dude, so he traded, Zion traded in the last month for $138 for a silver PSA 10.

00:25:36.63
Adz
Wow.

00:25:37.56
Russell Gibson
So like wait we're talking about John Morant's value falling down, but actually the one that's fallen down the most, oh, well, technically he's trading at $237 at the moment.

00:25:37.75
Adz
I just meant the dr trade period. I would have i would have ah i would have said yes.

00:25:47.04
Russell Gibson
So he's $37 more expensive than Jack currently, but the one that's probably fallen the most is actually Zion when you say it like that.

00:25:54.42
Adz
Yeah. But it's like Zion for Jarwork straight up.

00:25:59.74
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:26:00.34
Adz
Both on $39 million dollars and three. They've got the same contract.

00:26:03.58
Russell Gibson
I feel like that's the shifting chairs in the Titanic though, isn't it? All

00:26:07.99
Adz
Pretty funny.

00:26:09.78
Russell Gibson
right. So Chan to the Knicks. So Jeremy, so Chan couldn't negotiate a deal with the Spurs.

00:26:16.63
Russell Gibson
He wanted to re up with the Spurs. The Spurs didn't want to pay him. I completely understand why the Spurs wouldn't want to pay him just because of the fit that he can't shoot the ball well enough.

00:26:19.96
Adz
a

00:26:24.95
Russell Gibson
This to me is like Josh Giddey 2.0.

00:26:25.43
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:27.96
Russell Gibson
two point r You know, Giddey just didn't fit into what the,

00:26:30.33
Adz
The Gini Caruso swap.

00:26:31.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah, didn't fit into what the Thunder needed.

00:26:32.67
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:34.42
Russell Gibson
Sochan does not fit into what the Spurs need.

00:26:34.49
Adz
Yep.

00:26:36.35
Russell Gibson
He was released just completely outright. I was actually hoping he was going to go to the Bulls where they were desperate for a big guy.

00:26:43.51
Adz
Someone that wasn't a point guard, I think, is the the requirement Chuck Hager.

00:26:45.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:26:46.75
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:47.06
Russell Gibson
the Wizards where there's just so much roster opportunity there and there's so much flux. like I think that would be great. He ended it up going to the Knicks, which I think is better than both because but there is some talk, which I'll ask you this in a second, whether you agree or not, that there's some critics are saying that the East is going to be won by the Knicks.

00:27:05.00
Russell Gibson
Where are you at with that?

00:27:06.46
Adz
I think the Knicks are a good crack. um

00:27:09.41
Russell Gibson
I can't believe we're having this conversation.

00:27:10.86
Adz
Celtics are rounding into it, but the Pistons, I don't I don't think the Pistons have the playoff experience. So that's where my, my concern would be.

00:27:18.36
Russell Gibson
Yeah. When you say it like that, it kind of makes sense, doesn't it?

00:27:20.25
Adz
But then, yeah.

00:27:22.03
Russell Gibson
But look, fantastic young addition by the Knicks.

00:27:24.28
Adz
Hmm.

00:27:26.40
Russell Gibson
I can't imagine he'll stay there long term, though. i I reckon he's going to want to get that bag and he'll move on to whoever's going to give him some money. Speaking about not getting their bags and moving on, Cam Thomas was waived by the Nets.

00:27:38.93
Russell Gibson
There was that relationship had completely. They weren't going to give him any more money.

00:27:42.40
Adz
Oh,

00:27:44.06
Russell Gibson
and he was picked up literally the same day by the bucks. I think, again, that's a fantastic get. You need young talent on your team.

00:27:49.43
Adz
ah the box of, yeah.

00:27:52.25
Russell Gibson
He scored 34 points, four rebounds, four, three pointers on 60% from the field. That was three days ago now. So on the 12th of February, ah like that's what you need coming off your bench.

00:28:02.05
Adz
Yep.

00:28:04.60
Adz
But and the the Bucks have, and don't get me don't quote me, but I thought they won their last two coming into All-Star, which was like the Cam Thomas edition.

00:28:04.85
Russell Gibson
Like,

00:28:13.96
Adz
They're looking good. Like it's a positive little, but it surely bit of firepower that's not Giannis coming into the Bucks is good.

00:28:23.86
Russell Gibson
Holy moly. All right, we have to talk about this. Cam Thomas, silver PSA 10, is currently trading for $150. That is wild. That's not that far away from a jar.

00:28:37.69
Adz
Yeah, that's the Zion. I would have had the mighty have fallen.

00:28:44.18
Russell Gibson
Population, that's 52. These don't trade a lot and the last

00:28:47.28
Adz
No.

00:28:47.96
Russell Gibson
In the last three months, there's only been one sale. All time, maybe 25.

00:28:52.79
Adz
There was a spike in the all time wasn't it when he dropped his multiple 50 point game thing.

00:28:53.82
Russell Gibson
twenty five

00:28:56.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah, he went up to $450 at one point.

00:28:56.95
Adz
yeah

00:28:58.16
Russell Gibson
That was his absolute peak. and Then he went all the way down again.

00:29:00.00
Adz
Yeah.

00:29:00.96
Russell Gibson
Then he was back up to $335. He's been very, very consistent in that sort of $100, $150 mark.

00:29:05.02
Adz
Yeah.

00:29:08.34
Russell Gibson
So yeah, Cam Thomas is now a member of the Bucs. This is ah a roundup story here.

00:29:12.89
Adz
in

00:29:14.16
Russell Gibson
So a couple of weeks ago, we we spoke about Paul George being suspended for the rest of the season, 20 or 25 suspension. I was speculating that it was a ah benzo that he was suspended for. It turns out he was suspended for ketamine. So I

00:29:28.63
Adz
okay

00:29:30.46
Russell Gibson
i i actually think this is a really interesting one because in my previous job life, I worked as a pain nurse and we use ketamine, um you know, for complex pain patients. We used it for, you know, really large surgical procedures.

00:29:46.10
Russell Gibson
And um look, the the drug itself was, it's not widely accepted to be used, but I would also say the uses for it becoming a lot more accepted now.

00:29:56.25
Adz
Yep. 100%. Mm-hmm.

00:29:56.66
Russell Gibson
And so, you know, ah I don't want to use the word experimental, but what we're starting to see is like, it's being applied a lot more and they are actually, now they're using it for, you know, depression.

00:30:08.73
Russell Gibson
They're starting to use it for, you know, different reasons, not just for pain management. So, ah and, you know, my sort of take on this is that,

00:30:13.27
Adz
hundred percent

00:30:17.88
Russell Gibson
So we would call this an opiate sparing drug. You use this to try and reduce down the amount of opiate that you're using. Like that's a very simplistic way of using it. But in my mind, actually, you know, opiates are the enemy.

00:30:29.94
Russell Gibson
Like you you develop tolerance, you can get addiction.

00:30:31.32
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:32.82
Russell Gibson
there's a whole bunch of stuff that goes on with opiates. Whereas I actually wonder if, you know, the next phase of, medicine is going to be using more of these drugs and less of opiates. And so i sort of, I feel like I want to bookmark this moment in time where we say, okay, he was just suspended for 25 games, but in the future, this is going to be a drug that actually is going to be, you know, more highly regulated.

00:30:42.87
Adz
Possible, you know.

00:30:53.08
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:53.60
Russell Gibson
It's going to be more widely accepted. And there's going to be even applications for elite athletes to be using it, you know, in very, explicit circumstances. and i'm not I'm not saying this is... And I'm not encouraging recreational use of this drug because it can also be recreationally abused. But... Like, how can I say this?

00:31:12.59
Russell Gibson
I'm really...

00:31:12.66
Adz
It's it wasn't a performance enhancing drug is pretty much the.

00:31:15.03
Russell Gibson
Correct. i I am going to guess this was used for his mental health in a low dose. And um I'm kind of disappointed it's ended out like this, actually.

00:31:20.28
Adz
Yeah.

00:31:24.50
Russell Gibson
And um and again, like the fact that this story has come out, i there are some people that are genuinely brave in these spaces. Like there was that Australian athlete who came out as gay. And then there was you know there's been a few guys who have talked about their mental health.

00:31:38.18
Russell Gibson
And it's not something that... large elite athlete, you know, buff dudes discuss. Like it's just, it's not the norm.

00:31:48.09
Adz
But on the on the um the critic, they're being a bit of a critic to it as well, there's the appropriate, because he didn't declare, he knew what he was taking, he knew it was banned.

00:31:53.49
Russell Gibson
Sure, sure.

00:32:00.57
Adz
So it's like not trying to get around the drug test side of it. Like the, if I get caught, I'm screwed, but I'm just going to do it anyway. Like, I don't know. I'd be declaring stuff like that and just taking some time off.

00:32:14.71
Russell Gibson
I would love to hear the story behind this, one this like because he's very big on podcasts and interviews. and like So I can't wait for him when he's allowed to actually talk about this, hear this, because I think it's going to be a fascinating, I hope that as a case study, or I hope they use it as a case study and then we can sort of move forward from this.

00:32:27.35
Adz
Yeah. The interview. Yeah, for sure.

00:32:32.10
Russell Gibson
So,

00:32:32.34
Adz
Yeah, 100%.

00:32:35.14
Russell Gibson
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00:32:57.90
Russell Gibson
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00:33:10.20
Russell Gibson
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00:33:38.26
Adz
Nice.

00:33:45.53
Russell Gibson
Do you want to open that now while we're in the break?

00:33:48.82
Adz
What's that?

00:33:49.63
Russell Gibson
Oh, have you got a can?

00:33:51.09
Adz
No.

00:33:51.65
Russell Gibson
Oh, I thought, i thought you were opening in the can. I was like, I'll wait for you. Are you good?

00:33:57.53
Adz
Yeah, I'm good. I was just, I was just, mut I just had a fan of USB.

00:33:58.17
Russell Gibson
okay

00:34:01.11
Russell Gibson
ah

00:34:04.12
Adz
Trying to figure out what's on it, but I'm like, doesn't look like one of mine. I know what it is.

00:34:11.58
Russell Gibson
And we are back. And this segment has the headline, important sales. And we're going to start with a LeBron James blank slate. Right. So this one caught my attention for a couple of reasons. Obviously, it's LeBron James, it's PSA 10.

00:34:27.86
Russell Gibson
Obviously, the price is something to talk about too. But I think I'm really curious to see, we're now officially out of the Panini era. We've moved into the Topps era. People can can forget very quickly.

00:34:39.41
Adz
Okay.

00:34:39.80
Russell Gibson
So where are we at with all these case hits that we used to froth over so hard and we used to you know collect and chase and da-da-da-da-da. So this is also why I want to talk about this too. 2017 Panini Court Kings, LeBron James, Blank Slate, PSA 10, sold for 10,731.

00:34:57.14
Russell Gibson
I can't help but comp this to Jordan inserts where they're selling for a lot more money than this. The population on them is significantly higher. The pop on this is just 20%.

00:35:07.70
Adz
okay

00:35:07.77
Russell Gibson
i I think the worst case this population will go to is 40. And I'm saying that the absolute worst. If this goes to 25, I'll be like, okay, if it goes to 30, I'll be surprised.

00:35:19.10
Russell Gibson
So, you know, we see cards with much, much higher populations on this.

00:35:25.08
Adz
is Is blank slate one of the ones that you put at that second tier then for, um we've talked about Kabooms being the PMG, talked about Kaboom and Downtown being the two the two big ones.

00:35:33.06
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:35:37.10
Adz
Is blank slate sort of that nexts next tier but expect the big players to go up?

00:35:43.16
Russell Gibson
I think some of the blank slates are just as good as the downtowns, if not better, depending on the card. Because i I think the issue for me with the downtowns was that the artwork was very experimental on some of them.

00:35:50.01
Adz
Okay.

00:35:56.62
Russell Gibson
And also they took a lot of risks. So some of them looked amazing and some of them you're like, oh, I could really take or leave this.

00:35:58.64
Adz
Yeah.

00:36:02.61
Russell Gibson
But if you want that really classic,

00:36:03.28
Adz
Yeah.

00:36:07.26
Russell Gibson
Very simplistic. And I personally think they look super hot like that. The blank slate can also be your go-to on that. And I also think particularly too, if you're not the type of guy that likes a whole lot of flash, the Kaboom has got too much shine on it for you.

00:36:15.96
Adz
yeah

00:36:22.36
Russell Gibson
I think this is actually going to attract... I personally think it's going to hold up but really well long-term. So I'm very happy to see this. I also think too, this is the type of sale where you look back on, say in 10 years and you always say like, what were we thinking? Like, why did this sell for so cheap? Because that to me is nothing compared to what some of the Jordan inserts are currently selling for.

00:36:45.30
Russell Gibson
i

00:36:45.43
Adz
Yeah.

00:36:46.14
Russell Gibson
ah really struggled to get my head around this, to be honest. Yeah.

00:36:49.65
Adz
What's the year on it? 2017. But yeah, it's got 20 years on the Jordan inserts.

00:36:51.75
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:36:53.63
Adz
We'll so we'll see where this is in 20 years' time.

00:36:56.79
Russell Gibson
But you know what i mean, though? It's like...

00:36:57.82
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Like it's this – I don't know. I don't think LeBron stocks have started to increase yet.

00:37:09.14
Adz
I think because – I think he's going to enter the washed king phase where people are down on him and then they go right up depending on how how people see him in history.

00:37:17.10
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:37:25.25
Russell Gibson
I've got nothing to support what I'm about to say, but i I actually think his stuff is starting to go up a little bit. Yeah.

00:37:30.94
Adz
ah It'll trend up a little. like this This is an example of one of them, but I do think i think LeBron's very concerned about LeBron's final narrative.

00:37:42.52
Adz
I don't think he has to be. I think he just needs to be dominant. He got a triple-double the other day. He's performed well. Go out on a high. Or go out... Like, if next year's not the last year, I'd be surprised.

00:37:53.46
Adz
And I also wouldn't be surprised if this year's the last year. But I think but i think he needs to

00:37:56.24
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:38:00.12
Adz
not just fumble to the finish line. I think he needs to draw a line in the sand and go, it's the end of it. So people can start appreciating the great things he did over the years.

00:38:12.31
Russell Gibson
All right. We're segueing into LeBron conspiracies now. do you think that he's going to wait for an expansion team, go to that expansion team?

00:38:19.80
Adz
Can't wait that long. um

00:38:21.27
Russell Gibson
play for it with these like two other sons at the same time and then become an owner.

00:38:23.51
Adz
ah

00:38:26.49
Adz
He might come out of retirement to do that, but I think um i think next year in Cleveland is the one that makes sense. Cleveland or Miami, but one of his previous teams, he will, I'm pretty sure third chapter in Cleveland to say goodbye.

00:38:41.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:38:44.00
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, going from one goat to the next. 2006 Exquisite Collection Michael Jordan Limited Logos, numbered 250. This has been graded by Beckett.

00:38:56.86
Russell Gibson
BGS 8, autograph 10.

00:38:59.51
Adz
huh

00:39:00.09
Russell Gibson
So this is a bit hard for you guys to get your head around, but this is the very classic Exquisite card where it's the the black... shading in the background at the top and it's got sort of the the red of stripes coming down and then it's got that amazing triple colored patch in it And then of course,

00:39:17.95
Adz
It's very lucky to be a triple color patch, let's be fair.

00:39:21.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah, it's a very, very beefy patch though. Like that's an absolute banging patch. And then that, you know, fantastic Jordan autograph down on that.

00:39:27.33
Adz
Oh, hell yeah.

00:39:29.69
Russell Gibson
Now this actually traded at $158,000. Population on this is eight. Obviously we're talking about a BGS eight, but you have to remember, you know, during that 2006 time Beckett was the PSA of that era.

00:39:39.85
Adz
namely

00:39:42.94
Russell Gibson
So that's why we're seeing these cards graded with that. what are you Where are you at with price on this? Because I think that's where we need to start talking about this card, man.

00:39:53.50
Adz
um the the The PSA 8 is probably a tough thing, but it's a Michael Jordan patch auto.

00:40:01.03
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:40:01.30
Adz
um It'd be interesting to see what the what the PSA 10 sells for, but there's 50 of them. like in the in the population of ah like the actual printing, i'd be I'd be interested to see the full pop report because the population on their beat the eight is is eight, but I'd like to know how many of the big ones there are, like PSA 10s.

00:40:30.74
Adz
I think this card only goes up.

00:40:32.72
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:40:33.72
Adz
Like we've seen it historically. do Do you know what i mean? Like it's not... we've talked about how ridiculous Jordan inserts are going. This is a patch autograph. And this isn't a patch as in it's just a bit of material. This is this is game worn.

00:40:51.67
Adz
So I don't know. It's pete it's like ah it's it's like a an art piece.

00:40:57.21
Russell Gibson
So I actually think we should go back through and talk about some of these old sales.

00:41:03.42
Adz
Okay.

00:41:03.45
Russell Gibson
So ah I won't go back too far, but 22.

00:41:05.43
Adz
but Looking at the 23 sale where it dropped, it plummeted out.

00:41:10.30
Russell Gibson
So, yeah, so let's just go back to 22 because I think that's probably enough.

00:41:14.76
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:41:15.27
Russell Gibson
A 7.5, which has got an amazing patch on it, and that might be to do with it, sold for 92,000.

00:41:20.98
Adz
Okay.

00:41:21.75
Russell Gibson
In October 22, BGS8, one sold for $43,000, which looks kind of similar to the one that we're talking about now, to be perfectly honest.

00:41:29.39
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:29.88
Russell Gibson
Could even be the same card.

00:41:31.77
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:31.99
Russell Gibson
Then one sold for in December 2022,

00:41:37.40
Russell Gibson
BGS 8.5 for $30,000.

00:41:38.28
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:41:39.68
Russell Gibson
And then there was another $30,000 sale in 2023 of a BGS eight moving forward. One sold for 74 grand one for 48. Then we'll start to read it a couple more of these dates as we're getting closer now.

00:41:52.94
Adz
Yep.

00:41:54.18
Russell Gibson
BGS nine sold 40,000 in 23. A 8.5 sold for one 2024.

00:41:58.05
Adz
Yep.

00:41:58.46
Russell Gibson
ah bgas eight point fives sold for one in twenty twenty four In June, 2024, a BGS 8.5 sold for $23,000.

00:42:09.43
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:09.51
Russell Gibson
I'm not even too sure about that price. I wonder if that's like, if that's wrong, to be honest with you. Then in January, 26, a BGS 8.5 autograph 10 sold for 122. And then we've just had this sale here. So they are going up.

00:42:23.83
Adz
Yeah, but i've got the full ahve I've just pulled the full pop report of this card.

00:42:27.64
Russell Gibson
Hit me, go get me.

00:42:28.73
Adz
alright All right, so there's two SGCs and they're graded as six. There are 10 total PSA graded cards. There are two sixes, two fives, and six authentic.

00:42:44.76
Adz
This is how hard this card is to grade.

00:42:46.81
Russell Gibson
So if you're getting an eight or an 8.5, that's pretty much top of the mountain then.

00:42:50.62
Adz
Right, so BGS is where all of the pop comes. Total population is 55. So some of these have been crossed, obviously. Yep.

00:42:57.69
Russell Gibson
I was going to say, i reckon the CGC ones, you just like take out the conversation. So I reckon they would be cracked and resubbed.

00:43:02.36
Adz
Right, BGS stats.

00:43:03.11
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:43:03.98
Adz
We have a 6.5, two sevens, four 7.5s. Last sold on that was 72K. We have the i ps eight BGS eights. Last sold, obviously, 159.

00:43:17.46
Adz
the We have 15 8.5s and we have 13 9s. No 10s of this card or 9.5s for that matter.

00:43:31.35
Russell Gibson
I want to talk to Ryan about something like this because I find that population report, like, I don't believe that.

00:43:38.62
Adz
Because you but you can't go last sold price because the last sold price on the 9 was sold in October 2023 for 40,000.

00:43:45.47
Russell Gibson
Hmm. Well, clearly if the eight just sold for 158 and then the 8.5 just sold not that long ago.

00:43:50.97
Adz
Although it was sold in 2022 for 156,000, the nine.

00:43:58.39
Russell Gibson
Oh, that's 2024. So that's two years ago, but yeah.

00:43:59.77
Adz
<unk> I'd say it's 300K for the nine, but anyway, yeah, 8.5, yeah.

00:44:02.89
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:44:06.53
Adz
don't know. 20, 122K for the 8.5, that seems, maybe someone missed out on the auction so they bid harder to get it. Do you know what i mean? Like it's,

00:44:17.98
Russell Gibson
I don't know. I find that stuff actually like really hard to get my head around because I just don't dabble in those circles, but...

00:44:21.84
Adz
Although given given those raw numbers and the picture of the raw is really nice. um i'd I'd buy the raw one for $16,000, but that's the price from 2018.

00:44:33.69
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:44:36.47
Adz
But it's pretty insane. it's um They're only going to go up. It's only they head. the head

00:44:44.92
Russell Gibson
All right. Now this one here, I'm super keen to talk you about one too. 2009 tops, Steph Curry rookie autograph. BGS 8.5 on this one. Population is four.

00:44:56.79
Adz
Yeah.

00:44:59.48
Russell Gibson
This is the black.

00:45:01.65
Adz
Back to 50.

00:45:01.72
Russell Gibson
no

00:45:01.91
Adz
100%.

00:45:02.42
Russell Gibson
Number to 50. This sold $81,000. If you look at the graph on this and This is the second time in like two minutes I've said Ryan's name. Ryan from Gemrate has been saying how undervalued Steph Curry is.

00:45:15.60
Russell Gibson
So I feel like this is just another example of how Ryan's been right all along about this.

00:45:19.83
Adz
one hundred percent

00:45:20.04
Russell Gibson
That's just, it's a straight line up. That's gone from 30 K all the way up to $81,000. You'd be pretty happy with yourself if you picked that up for 30 K when you man.

00:45:29.91
Adz
Very much so. um I'd love to own the black one. That'd be cool. I'd almost prefer the black to the gold, to be honest.

00:45:38.30
Russell Gibson
How come?

00:45:39.37
Adz
I just think it's got more it's got more elegance about it.

00:45:41.97
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:45:42.73
Adz
Blackboarded. And you know, the one of ones are black. not not This is chrome, but you know what I mean?

00:45:49.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:45:51.58
Adz
But I like it. I think it's ah it's a sleek, elegant. I mean, you'd want it in a high grade. You wouldn't want it dotted and and scuffed up around the edges, but it's nice-looking card.

00:46:02.17
Russell Gibson
feel like I'll take anything to be honest.

00:46:03.90
Adz
Yeah, exactly.

00:46:06.43
Russell Gibson
Like what?

00:46:07.29
Adz
Yeah.

00:46:09.98
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I feel like a lot of these cards, so

00:46:14.67
Russell Gibson
they're really getting out of reach, aren't they, with some of these prices?

00:46:17.83
Adz
Oh, 100%. 100%.

00:46:21.69
Russell Gibson
So where I sit with a card like this, happy for the guy like congratulations you know whether you bought it or sold it whichever the side of the coin on i think i think if you bought it for 30 and sold for 80 like that's that's amazing but at the same time too it's like where do you go with this and you you've been buying some of the other steph curry rookie cards and i feel like this is a really good time to talk about that so it's like if you don't have eighty k to spend what where do you spend your steph curry cash at

00:46:30.68
Adz
Yeah.

00:46:45.24
Adz
yeah

00:46:49.91
Adz
Yeah, yeah. It's just like just try and get anything. start Start at the very, very lowest rookie available. um And then my goal is to upgrade every rookie I've got of the players I want.

00:47:01.34
Adz
is Whatever I've got is what I've got. And then I just, that's a slot in my on my mantle, so to speak, to go my carry rookie is going to get upgraded to that rookie if I if i can can afford or or can come come buy another one.

00:47:16.09
Russell Gibson
Which rookie card of Steph's did you pick up?

00:47:18.78
Adz
so like the prestige or something like it was as a base.

00:47:20.50
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:47:21.86
Adz
It was not. Yeah. Not a very well-renowned one, but it's still a rookie card.

00:47:27.73
Russell Gibson
Hmm. It's actually a PSA 10 of that black.

00:47:32.44
Adz
Yeah.

00:47:32.95
Russell Gibson
So population on that's one and that hasn't sold for 10 years.

00:47:36.31
Adz
No one's tired. No one is moving that.

00:47:38.17
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So that sold for 9,000, 10 years ago. So imagine what that would be selling for now.

00:47:43.90
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:47:45.72
Russell Gibson
All right.

00:47:45.75
Adz
You need to buy someone a house for their, for their, don't know, your kid's wedding present, buy them a house, sell your curry.

00:47:46.16
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:47:51.43
Adz
That's yeah.

00:47:51.48
Russell Gibson
Yeah. All right, so let's buts let's go by what you were just saying then. So you can get a 2009 Bowman, the 48 reprint, BGS 8.5.

00:48:00.54
Adz
Yeah.

00:48:02.82
Russell Gibson
That last sold for $1,200.

00:48:06.14
Adz
How crazy.

00:48:09.28
Russell Gibson
I've got no problem with that. Like, yeah, it's still a lot of money, but at the same time, like that's not...

00:48:12.60
Adz
Yeah.

00:48:17.05
Russell Gibson
You know, you could flip a few cards, you could save up your cash and you could make that happen if you like really wanted to get into the Steph Curry.

00:48:24.09
Adz
into the game.

00:48:25.11
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Like that's numbered to 2009.

00:48:27.74
Adz
You can grab the 2009 tops, the base for fit last sold like 950 for the raw.

00:48:33.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Right. Okay.

00:48:35.67
Adz
um Like it's, yeah, it's not easy.

00:48:39.16
Russell Gibson
I reckon I would.

00:48:39.33
Adz
They're not easy to come by. i got the 2009 prestige and that, yeah, so they're not, they're not supposed to be the big ones.

00:48:44.41
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:48:48.58
Adz
The prestige is the lowest.

00:48:50.33
Russell Gibson
This is my own paranoia though.

00:48:50.83
Adz
Yeah.

00:48:51.73
Russell Gibson
ad I would buy something graded. I wouldn't buy something that was raw. I don't have the old vintage.

00:48:56.11
Adz
That's fair. 100%. 100%.

00:48:58.14
Russell Gibson
Okay. This is probably not vintage, but that old stuff. I just don't have the knowledge to go to know the nuances to say, you know, this is fake.

00:49:05.50
Adz
hundred percent

00:49:05.74
Russell Gibson
This is real. Yep.

00:49:08.06
Adz
hundred percent

00:49:08.19
Russell Gibson
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00:49:22.07
Russell Gibson
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00:50:09.01
Russell Gibson
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00:50:33.64
Russell Gibson
All righty, we're back at... All right. You want to talk about Damien Lillard and the three-point competition. I'm going to leave this to you because I know nothing about it. I've not watched it.

00:50:43.86
Adz
I haven't watched it. I just saw a Shams post.

00:50:44.77
Russell Gibson
I'm not going gaslight

00:50:46.65
Adz
I just saw a Shams post. I had a laugh. It's going to be a a somewhat of a dummy spit. Why is someone that's injured playing in the three-point contest, let alone winning the damn thing?

00:50:58.84
Adz
Have we not got quality shooters in the NBA that we can put into All-Star Weekend?

00:51:01.59
Russell Gibson
ah

00:51:05.14
Adz
Honestly, Damian Lillard

00:51:05.98
Russell Gibson
ah

00:51:09.24
Adz
in order to maintain some form of relevance in the league, has pushed himself into All-Star Weekend. and Not only done that, but he has won the three-point contest given, don't know, there wasn't really anybody.

00:51:23.42
Adz
There was a couple of players, let's be fair. But if you don't if you don't have Curry in there, i don't know what you're doing. He should be there every year. Should be the Steph Curry three-point contest.

00:51:39.23
Adz
Rant over.

00:51:40.34
Russell Gibson
All right. I hear you.

00:51:43.22
Adz
So Mac McClung, was he allowed to play in the three-point contest? He's actually on an NBA nba list now anyway.

00:51:46.87
Russell Gibson
Well, allegedly, allegedly they, people didn't want to compete against him.

00:51:55.27
Adz
Because why didn't they why don't they just get non-NBA players and get street dunkers in? Anybody can jump in the the dunk contest. Who cares if you' you've been playing? It doesn't matter.

00:52:06.19
Adz
Damian Lillard hasn't played a game of basketball this year.

00:52:09.02
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:52:09.24
Adz
there There are games to qualify for awards. You should have demonstrated capability through this season to participate in skills challenge dunk competition three-point contests.

00:52:23.32
Adz
what is What has Damian Lillard contributed to the league this season? Absolutely nothing. So it's an unwarranted appearance. Congrats for winning, but why? Anyway, that's that's that's all I've got to say about All-Star Weekend.

00:52:34.85
Russell Gibson
I'm not sure why. right.

00:52:38.42
Adz
I didn't even watch the dunk competition.

00:52:38.74
Russell Gibson
So... All right, my thing on that is this is who participated. Who do you think should have participated, right? So Booker, Knappel, Maxie, Lillard, Donovan Mitchell, Murray, Norman Powell, Bobby Portis. That's who participated.

00:52:53.30
Adz
Yeah.

00:52:53.40
Russell Gibson
the ah The obvious ones who aren't there is Steph Curry, Michael Porter jr Luka Doncic. LaMelo Ball is fifth in the league in makes.

00:52:59.46
Adz
Yeah. Mm.

00:53:02.49
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Anthony Edwards is seventh. Trey Murphy is ninth. Actually, that that kid can shoot. AJ Green, I would have liked to have seen him. um Twelfth is DiVincenzo. Thirteenth is Harden.

00:53:15.80
Russell Gibson
so I actually think the what they should have done is to take the top 10 makers because that's that's a really good list. Steph Curry, Michael Porter Jr., Donovan Mitchell, Luca, Lomelo Ball, Knoppel, Edwards, Maxie, Trey Murphy, Murray. Easy.

00:53:30.09
Russell Gibson
Like, great. That's a good shootout.

00:53:31.95
Adz
It's, yeah.

00:53:33.43
Russell Gibson
mean, the other one to invite is Duncan Robinson because that guy can shoot the ball in a really uncanny way. Clay Thompson would have been good. Laurie Markkinen.

00:53:43.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah, it's a weird one. It's it's a really...

00:53:45.11
Adz
Do you know what they should have done? Should have been Jason Tatum, Damian Lillard, Trey Young, Anthony Davis, anyone that's injured in that long term, let him in. Oh, and Luca. He's been an injured for a bit.

00:53:56.44
Russell Gibson
but Another fun one. So friend of the podcast will appreciate this. Isaiah Joe.

00:54:01.58
Adz
There you go.

00:54:03.15
Russell Gibson
Reed Shepard, like they should have put him into race. He's profile a little bit.

00:54:07.29
Adz
Yeah, it's, it I don't know. I think the the All-Star weekend has lost ah lost the plot and I think they're they're scrambling at the moment. so

00:54:13.98
Russell Gibson
I wonder if it's also at getting people to agree to participate.

00:54:19.07
Adz
Well, that's true.

00:54:19.11
Russell Gibson
Cause like what on earth is Bobby Portis there?

00:54:19.99
Adz
like I'm surprised. I think um' i think the to to segue on that, Luke is playing. Luka's been injured for a week with suspected like leg injury, like hamstring. They were worried.

00:54:38.81
Adz
And he's come he didn't play against in the last game against Dallas, but he sure as hell playing the All-Star game on a minutes restriction. I'm like, that's got to be the league begging Luka to play.

00:54:52.02
Adz
That's not Luka saying, I want to play. That's the league saying, you're the you're one of the biggest draw cards. You're the highest vote getter. We need you to play. Because he was injured.

00:55:04.41
Russell Gibson
I actually think he wants to play. I think that guy has got an insane competitive spirit. And then the that's the other thing I think we, I was literally about to say, then it's also the Yoki thing.

00:55:10.21
Adz
I reckon him and Jokic want to tear the the USA team apart.

00:55:16.82
Russell Gibson
Like if you want to talk about deep conspiracies of the NBA to see those two on the same roster is something that I would love to like, see that happen. And you know, like super teams being formed together,

00:55:28.57
Adz
but When Jokic joins the Lakers in a couple of years, you'll you'll be able to see it. It'll be fine.

00:55:33.43
Russell Gibson
Any footage of those two guys hugging and talking into each other's ears, I want to see it translated.

00:55:37.94
Adz
Yeah.

00:55:38.27
Russell Gibson
You know, like there's those videos are out there now about being stuff being translated. I want to see it. Yeah.

00:55:42.65
Adz
Yeah.

00:55:43.61
Russell Gibson
All right. Malik Beasley. This is from Shams. The opportunity to play for the Bad Bunnies team in Puerto Rico and showcase ahead of the 2026 free agency as he awaits a ruling on his NBA investigation. The Puerto Rico team season begins in March and Beasley has been under NBA and fba FBI investigations for gambling allegations. I think this is terrible for Beasley. I don't think he's coming back. If you're signing with the bad bunnies, your NBA career is all over.

00:56:11.02
Russell Gibson
Beasley averaged 16.3 points in all 82 games for the Pistons last season, setting a franchise record 319 threes. Yeah, I think this guy is toast just like Chauncey Billups is, mate.

00:56:22.17
Russell Gibson
We're never going to hear from this guy again. Yep.

00:56:23.74
Adz
Yeah, they're going into irrelevance for from now on for sure.

00:56:26.87
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:56:27.51
Adz
Yeah.

00:56:28.12
Russell Gibson
How much do we talk about that? That's enough, isn't it?

00:56:30.39
Adz
That's plenty.

00:56:31.03
Russell Gibson
All right. This is what i I definitely did want to talk to you about this. This is for sure. There was a lovely scuffle between the Pistons and the Hornets this week.

00:56:41.62
Russell Gibson
I didn't mind it. I actually thought the Diabetes Jalen Duran stuff was fine. It should have stopped at that. like Diabetes went off his head.

00:56:50.94
Adz
Yeah.

00:56:51.41
Russell Gibson
Apparently those two guys have got history going back to high school. So they've competed at a high level against each other for a very long time. Have you seen the footage of Duran as a high schooler?

00:57:02.06
Adz
Yeah.

00:57:03.10
Russell Gibson
That is scary. Like he basically, you know how like big he is now.

00:57:07.44
Adz
Oh, wow.

00:57:07.74
Russell Gibson
He was basically that big in high school.

00:57:10.72
Adz
Okay.

00:57:10.90
Russell Gibson
It's nuts. Like, can you imagine how scary that would be? Like your prepubescent, you know, kid that somehow made a high school basketball team and you got this Jalen Duren monster, like barreling down the lane at you.

00:57:13.82
Adz
Yeah.

00:57:25.69
Adz
I just, I, I, I'm looking at the suspensions. Like I'm,

00:57:31.03
Russell Gibson
Oh yeah, sorry. Back to the suspensions. Duran got two games. Diabetes got four. Bridges got four. And Beef Stew got seven. He came off the bench. And the photo that we've got up here is him literally facing up in a boxing pose um with Bridges.

00:57:44.63
Adz
Got against Bridges.

00:57:46.94
Russell Gibson
Bridges has also got history to being suspended. And, you know, we don't need to bring up his domestic violence allegations, do we?

00:57:54.81
Adz
least he's taken it out on the court.

00:57:58.42
Russell Gibson
Oh, God. It's true.

00:58:01.43
Adz
but

00:58:03.64
Russell Gibson
um Yeah, look, expensive tussle, to be honest.

00:58:07.70
Adz
Very, very well. The Pistons are still sitting proud proudly atop of the standings in the East.

00:58:13.27
Russell Gibson
So the the precedent for this has been set, though. So Alvarado got suspended last year. Three games were coming off the bench. So i think double plus one is more than reasonable for Stewart. You remember him chasing down LeBron that time.

00:58:26.02
Russell Gibson
It's not the first time this guy's carried on like a pork chop.

00:58:28.95
Adz
Yeah, it's true.

00:58:30.65
Russell Gibson
speak Speaking of I think we absolutely should.

00:58:30.71
Adz
While we're ah while we're on Jalen Duran, shall we?

00:58:35.61
Adz
Love this guy.

00:58:38.52
Adz
Jalen Duran, one of one Black Prism. Rookie card. Last sold on the 5th of February on Alt-RM. for $25,600.

00:58:51.90
Adz
Bargain.

00:58:53.14
Russell Gibson
You like it?

00:58:54.01
Adz
i like it.

00:58:55.22
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:58:55.29
Adz
I like Duran. I've been on Duran for a while. Like he was going to be like one of those side PCs to, do you know what i mean? Like, it's like, I think this kid's going to grow. And I think he has.

00:59:07.96
Adz
um Obviously he's overshadowed by in um in a his role on the team. He's so serviceable. I think he's a really good big in the league. He's found his spot.

00:59:21.75
Russell Gibson
He's a good big. He's an all-star. I'm not taking any of that away from him. i think my concern with Duran is that what I would apply to every big man in the league, like take Christopher Paul Zinglis, for example.

00:59:33.27
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:36.54
Adz
Yeah,

00:59:37.67
Russell Gibson
He's one of the most talented basketball players maybe I've ever seen. like The talent that that guy has is insane. You can pick up at one of his rookie cards for, what, 50 bucks now?

00:59:49.27
Russell Gibson
like No one really cares about big guys who are good at boxing out and setting fantastic screens. I think that's a little bit of the problem with all this is that

01:00:00.12
Adz
young though.

01:00:03.36
Adz
He's young, 2022.

01:00:06.92
Russell Gibson
I'm trying to find his rookie card. It's really hard. He's not on card letter.

01:00:10.43
Adz
He's not on card ladder. i wouldn't I wouldn't go too hard into it. It shows you bit like the one of one. It's a one of one. It's not the Nebula. I'd probably pay. I'd be more impressed if it was the Nebula, not just the black.

01:00:23.00
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:00:23.35
Adz
Black looks really good with the blue and red trim. the blue and red trim

01:00:28.82
Russell Gibson
right, I found one. Jalen Duran, rookie card from 2022. This is the cracked ice one. PSA 10. This is selling for $90. Look, actually, man, at that price, that's that's pretty reasonable, isn't it?

01:00:41.85
Adz
Yeah.

01:00:42.42
Russell Gibson
i just I think the problem with with guys like this is what's the upside?

01:00:42.58
Adz
Yeah.

01:00:46.26
Russell Gibson
you know you

01:00:46.87
Adz
Yeah. 100%. Yeah.

01:00:48.12
Russell Gibson
You might make some money out of it, and that's fine. and you know I think all your things you've said, it's right. They're going to be on a good team. you know Maybe they make the finals, but it's like...

01:00:54.71
Adz
yeah

01:00:55.93
Russell Gibson
Okay, here's another one here. A Blue Ice, which is numbered to $125. That's sold for $330. three hundred and thirty dollars Card ladder validates that value. So that's always a good sign when you know you get that right. And that just sold actually just literally two days ago. So that's a very ah very, very fresh sale.

01:01:13.30
Adz
Very.

01:01:14.26
Russell Gibson
um Really quickly, Darren Fox has been named an all-star. This has got nothing to do with me loving Darren Fox. This is just a really important piece of news that has to be included. He is... um He's been named as an injury replacement for Giannis, actually, of of all the people.

01:01:31.31
Adz
Can I just say that means they, um they chased Fox. They didn't, wasn't attracted there. Is that the legends don't chase they attract?

01:01:40.82
Russell Gibson
ah i wasn't sure if you were making a Fox reference because they they run fast.

01:01:42.31
Adz
They chased him. No, no. Chasing the fox. There we go. have

01:01:47.42
Russell Gibson
All right, what should we finish on this weekend?

01:01:49.91
Adz
we got? We don't have a Kobe or a jaw a Jordan to finish, do we?

01:01:52.76
Russell Gibson
I don't, but I do have a Luca and SGA dual autograph if that takes your fancy.

01:01:52.99
Adz
No.

01:01:57.41
Adz
Oh, yeah. We've got one superstar and an SGA on it. Yep. Cool.

01:02:03.12
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. Why don't you take us out? Yeah.

01:02:06.08
Adz
All right. So finishing up, we have... what's the eminence? I'm like, what's what set is this? 2024 eminence, Luka Doncic, Shea Gilgis, Alexander, dual auto, platinum, one of one.

01:02:25.21
Adz
We have one deserving MVP candidate that should win the MVP this year. We have someone that's got one of Nikola Jokic's MVPs. These are two very good basketballers. Last of $34,800. Definitely not a purchase by our friends one shown

01:02:44.18
Russell Gibson
you You don't think Sean picked this up?

01:02:46.71
Adz
Maybe. Maybe they've been hearing all of our suspicions about the round numbers and they're throwing in $600 and $800 to put us off the s cent. That could be it.

01:02:59.80
Adz
I don't think so, but it could be. Who knows? $34,000. Would you grab this and add it to your collection? It's Luca in a ah Lakers jersey. This is an interesting one for me because I don't want SGA in my house.

01:03:11.90
Russell Gibson
right. All right. So the first thing I need to admit and fully put forward is I'm quite obsessed with Eminence because essentially it's higher quality and it's more expensive than Flawless.

01:03:28.66
Russell Gibson
And the resale of the singles is is super weird because the price of what the boxes are versus what the cards resale for, like the equation is so whacked.

01:03:40.38
Adz
Yeah, true.

01:03:41.14
Russell Gibson
But if you want to try and buy a box, so look, I'm just, these prices don't, you know, quote these, but I'm looking at a price now. This is 40,000 AUD for one sealed box.

01:03:57.34
Russell Gibson
And this off DA Card Worlds. So, you know, take, again, take this for a grain of salt. They're asking $120,000 It's

01:04:06.51
Russell Gibson
it's like this stuff is so insanely but expensive. So when you can get a one of one with Luca and SGA on it and it's, well, they're great at authentic.

01:04:18.66
Russell Gibson
So, you know, it's still, it's,

01:04:19.97
Adz
It's a one of one. It's still a one of one with their autographs on it, right?

01:04:22.30
Russell Gibson
But it's also PSA graded too.

01:04:22.61
Adz
Like...

01:04:23.82
Russell Gibson
And even though it's authentic, I still put some stock into that. Like for 34K, I actually think that is a very, very reasonable price.

01:04:31.01
Adz
Savvy purchase, yeah.

01:04:31.45
Russell Gibson
Like I've got a super low end eminence card in my collection. And pretty much the only reason why I bought it was because it's eminence.

01:04:39.86
Adz
Yeah.

01:04:40.02
Russell Gibson
um It was a rookie patch autograph. It's of Davian Mitchell. So basically like the lowest, you know, like the lowest sort of like prospect you could like buy into.

01:04:43.74
Adz
Okay. Nice, nice.

01:04:48.98
Adz
Yeah.

01:04:49.46
Russell Gibson
And i was like, it's just like to have it in your hand is, it's kind of one of those experiences for me. I'm just kind of like, look, I'm glad I've done it. But it's also too, man, the resale on this stuff is nuts.

01:05:00.57
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:00.70
Russell Gibson
It's just, so actually I'm i'm really,

01:05:02.91
Adz
I'd be interested to see where the market sits on it long term, I guess.

01:05:08.76
Russell Gibson
i think they priced it so badly that

01:05:12.54
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:13.21
Russell Gibson
it became almost untouchable for people to even like look at.

01:05:13.34
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:17.14
Adz
Invest in.

01:05:17.95
Russell Gibson
Yeah. It's such a weird and look, everything in it is game worn. Everything in is on card autographs. You know, there's no redemptions in it, you know on and on it's, it's the, it's the product that everyone dreamed about.

01:05:24.75
Adz
There's quality. It's just pure quality.

01:05:29.66
Russell Gibson
But at the same time too, I think the pricing is so whacked on it that.

01:05:29.82
Adz
no

01:05:34.04
Adz
Well, it's also, yeah.

01:05:34.75
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:05:35.08
Adz
Yeah. It's it's one of those. yeah It's tough. it's It's actually really tough.

01:05:39.26
Russell Gibson
I think if you're an eccentric billionaire though, you should be buying up all last year eminence because, you know, we've talked about boxes, yeah boxes being loaded.

01:05:45.34
Adz
Final year stuff. Yeah.

01:05:47.60
Russell Gibson
Like they made that, what was it called? The the Chronicles or the, what was that?

01:05:51.74
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

01:05:52.86
Russell Gibson
Silhouettes.

01:05:52.92
Adz
it was like fun yeah

01:05:53.38
Russell Gibson
No, no. They made silhouettes and basically they had so many patches left over that they just made this product and loaded it with patches.

01:05:59.42
Adz
put it all in 100%.

01:06:00.70
Russell Gibson
So that was a fantastic product that people loved. you know, multiply that on, you know, testing and steroids. And that's, you know, that's what you've got with eminence.

01:06:08.15
Adz
Yeah.

01:06:10.09
Russell Gibson
So it's like, yeah, super interesting.

01:06:14.22
Adz
Yeah.

01:06:14.97
Russell Gibson
Final thoughts, Ed.

01:06:16.47
Adz
Final thoughts. Um, it's been that It's been real. It's been a ride. ah Yeah.

01:06:23.26
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:06:23.54
Adz
Thank you for the last four years and change.

01:06:25.59
Russell Gibson
Yeah, man, you too.

01:06:27.26
Adz
And um yeah, who knows like what the future brings if i I jump out behind the microphone again at some point.

01:06:27.31
Russell Gibson
Yep.

01:06:33.53
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah

01:06:34.10
Adz
um But yeah, I'm sure if Luca wins, we'll be in touch. We'll be in the group chats.

01:06:37.83
Russell Gibson
yeah.

01:06:39.19
Adz
um But yes, ah ah i'll I'll finish up just like Giannis. Legends don't don't ah don't chase, they attract. So yeah.

01:06:46.55
Russell Gibson
Yeah, man.

01:06:48.25
Adz
to being attracted at some point at a hobby hangout or ah or a national, but yeah, thank you to all the listeners. I look forward to seeing people at card shows. So yeah, and for sure.

01:06:57.45
Russell Gibson
they're going to miss you for sure, man. Yeah.

01:06:59.34
Adz
And yeah, thank you and all the best for the future of the pod because yeah, it's in good hands.

01:07:05.08
Russell Gibson
Thank you, man. Appreciate it.

01:07:06.07
Adz
Awesome. See you everybody.