Episode 270: Midweek Stream: The Legends, The Rookies, and the Magic!

This week on the Midweek Stream, we're tackling some of the hottest topics in the world of basketball, from the eternal goat debate to the latest sensational rookie. We'll start with the ultimate matchup: LeBron James vs. Steph Curry. Who truly reigns supreme? We'll analyze their careers, their impacts, and their legacies, settling (or maybe just reigniting!) this legendary discussion.

Next, we'll shift gears to a fascinating piece of sports history: the infamous Michael Jordan Star PSA 3. We'll uncover the story behind this rare and valuable card, exploring why it's a piece of memorabilia that captured the attention of collectors worldwide.

But that's not all! We'll also dive into the exciting world of current basketball, discussing the phenomenon that is Victor "Wemby" Wembanyama. His meteoric rise to fame, his unique talents, and his potential to rewrite the record books will be the focus of our in-depth analysis.

And finally, we'll wrap things up by celebrating the "Prime Playmaker," highlighting the importance of this crucial role on the court and discussing some of the greatest playmakers to ever play the game.

Join us for a stimulating conversation that will have you cheering for your favorite players, debating the finer points of basketball history, and looking forward to the future of the sport. Don't miss out on this action-packed episode!

Transcript

What's up everybody? Welcome to the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card podcast. I am your host Russell Gibson

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and this is another midweek stream. Just to give you a bit of a preview for Sunday night show, we are going to be joined by Melbourne comedian Kappa

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Flapper or Nick Kappa. It's not a super heavy NBA content episode. So, if you're

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hanging out for some deep dive into NBA material, this episode might be the better one for you. However, we of course we'll still be doing some NBA

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content and super funny guy. I think you'll really enjoy it. This week's show, we've got a little bit to talk about as always. We're going to talk

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about Burbank card and their approach to Bowman's basketball that's dropping.

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We've got a Steph Curry, LeBron James comp, a Michael Jordan recently sold, which I think is actually quite interesting. and then

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congrats on the top shot and how that may or may not be coming back to the pop culture. So without too much more wasted time, let's

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get straight into this video that was put onto Burbank's Instagram account.

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I'm very interested by this story because their approach to hobby boxes and the owner of Burbank has been very public about this. He believes that part

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of the issue in the hobby is breaking and and they are staying away from that.

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and his aspect on on cards is selling sealed boxes but also singles. If you've ever been to the Burbank shop, you've never seen so many cards in your life.

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There's also rumors that he has literally millions more cards out the back or that aren't able to be purchased

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or, you know, aren't on display and at some point in time he's going to be doing a larger expansion and then all of those cards will be put out for people

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to go through. So that's his perspective on the world to combat the rising prices of boxes that if you come into the shop

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on release day. So he's going to be generating a whole bunch of buzz for his shop. People can come in and get the and

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and amazing prices. $700 for a jumbo or sealed for 1,600. Hobby 359 cut or

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sealed for 800. And then value boxes which is a blaster box. It's exactly the same thing, just different terminology.

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$35 sealed. Sorry, $35 cut or $60 sealed. And so, I think this is fantastic on a whole bunch of different things. I think it talks about the

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elephant that's in the room, which is it's getting harder and harder for collectors to get their hands on product. I think this is fantastic

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marketing. It's fantastic campaigning. I I think it keeps them in the news loop.

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And I also think it keeps them hobby relevant. You know, I think and that that's really important in today's age where realistically breakers are getting

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so much more publicity than what hobby shops would be getting. So, you know, I like this a lot. The only tiny caveat to this is that it's only for one day. So,

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they're doing this fantastic deal, but it's only for one day. I would personally like this to see stay for a little bit longer. Even if, for example,

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day one the jumbo price is 700, day two it's 800, day three it's 900, and then they leave it sitting at 1,000 bucks.

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But if you still want to get it sealed, then you pay market price, you know, something along those lines. That's only a suggestion. It is not a criticism by

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any stretch of the imagination, you know, at all. So, all righty. Thank you to the Hobby Hangout for your ongoing love and support. Go to the hobby

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hangout.com.au U to get your tickets for this weekend show. It's this Sunday, guys. The morning session is completely sold out and exhausted. If you do want

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to come along and you haven't got your tickets, you now need to go to the afternoon session, which will be totally fine, guys. Do not stress about that at

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all. Sunday the 26th of April at the Royal Exhibition Building, 10:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. Nice long day. 9 Nicholson

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Street in Carlton, Victoria. Australian and international guests, speakers, sports cards, tables, live breaks,

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trading zones, trading card games, entertainment cards, activations, free play areas, and of course more. We've

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got more and more announcements coming in. Galley's gym, Zack Merritt, Nick Watson, Josh Weedle, Food Trucks, Hot

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Dog Guys, Hoy, Pinoy, Lana, Nem, Dough Truck, Goldie Boy Burgers, Schnitty

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Schnitty Bang Bang, which is an awesome name for a food vendor. And TCG Grading will be there taking all of your

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submissions also too. They will be on the stage with me to do a one-hour interview slashodcast and I'll also be

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going around the afternoon doing interviews. So guys, if you see me walking around with a t-shirt on and a little microphone, come up and say hi.

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Show me the collections that you've got. We'll do a little promo video for you.

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Thanks again to the Hobby Hangout and their team. Our next story for today is this amazing Steph Curry 8.5 BGS graded

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card versus the LeBron James 9.5 graded card. So the Steph Curry sold for $372,000 and the LeBron James sold for $288,000.

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I think actually this is very very hobby relevant and I'm actually surprised a lot more buzz isn't going into this because despite this being a lower

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grade, it's actually sold for more. And so, are we actually seeing hobby movement right in front of in of our eyes here? Should we be bookmarking this

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day to look back and say, "Hey, look, this is the day that Steph Curry overtook LeBron James in the hobby." And this for me is a crazy concept because I

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probably don't believe that this is true. I suspect this is a a one-off sale. However, imagine if this is true.

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Imagine if now Steph Curry is considered to be greater on the hobby tree than LeBron James is, which if we're using the market cap metrics, that has not

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been the case at all. And so this is potentially a huge change within the hobby. I'm really excited about this though. I think this is something we

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have to keep our eyes on. I think that this further emphasizes Ryan from Gem Rate's perspective that Steph Curry is

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an undervalued player in the league, in the hobby, I should say. Yeah, the timing of this for me is super weird though because actually I thought at the

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moment the Warriors have really been struggling. Steph Curry's been playing fantastic, but actually the Lakers have probably been the, you know, the better

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news story of the year. So really interesting one for me. Just reading through some of the comments on here, mixed fits collect. People have to

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understand in the hobby playing stats are not everything. It's likability too. Curry clearly above LeBron in the hobby.

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Both are great, but Curry is proving to be a legit long-term hold as well. This is very telling. Yeah. So, definitely agree with that. I think there's some

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liability issues going on there. LeBron is an absolute buy at this price. That's from Tom Armstrong. That's an interesting way to look at it. Maybe it's just simply it's just gone too low.

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The 9.5 is an interesting one. So, I'm just going to try and zoom in here if I can read the subgrades. Nine on centering, 9.5 on edges, 9.5 on surface,

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and 9.5 on corners. So yeah, I mean you'd have to have huge testicles to send that off to PSA and crack that out.

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This has nothing to do with who is better. This is about scarcity and that Steph is more rarer uh not having its own product and it was miss mixed in with Top's flagship. I could be wrong

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about this. I thought that these two cards were actually numbered to be the same. And that's from Turpin Enforcer.

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And we'll read one more. And this is from Vaughn Thompson Jr. Wow, that's crazy. Supports what a lot of collectors have thought all along though. Steph

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seems better than the Brun and a grade lower. Yeah, that's the thing that really takes my attention on that one, 100%. All righty. This is a huge Jordan

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sale that we're going to talk about next. This is the 1984 Star Michael Jordan card. Very good condition at PSA

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3. And this sold for a whopping $34,160.

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I'm actually more interested in lower grade PSA and lower grade BGS because that's something that I I spend more time looking at and trying to sift

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through where you can find some value like where are the price mis mismatches within the grades. So for me this is really really fascinating and I think

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what you can see here you know extremely clearly on this graph here look at this from early 2025 this was trading at about $10,000 and this has gone up here.

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So, I was talking just a couple of seconds ago about the price mismatches.

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Maybe what we could have seen if we're looking back at the data from 2025, a price mismatch on this three because clearly what's happened here, this is

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all caught up with the rest of the market. And these particular cards have been skyrocketing the last couple of years, particularly once the collector

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sentiment changed from the Fleer card being the rookie card and now the star card is absolutely considered to be the rookie card. So, huge movement there

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going on that one. I think this actually says a lot about the Jordan market and I think it says a lot about the star card market in that

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these have just been it's just become the card to collect and and literally it's as simple as that. All righty. This next one's a little bit of a fun one and

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this one is a little bit of a different story for us to go through here but I'm going to try and tie this back to what was happening a few years ago. So what

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you guys Melo Ball being interviewed by the Courtside reporter. Then we got Grant Williams coming up from behind and

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hanging a very blinged out pendant around his neck. If we do get a closer look at it though, and here we go here.

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So heaps and heaps of bling on this.

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This would make Kevin Olirri happy. It's got the lovely Amazon Prime logo on that. I've got no problems with that marketing type edge that's going on

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here. And then it's got here basically the play of the game. And so I think how this works though is it's not so much the play of the game. They can it's not

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the play at the end of the game. They can pick out any play from the from throughout where the game is. Actually what it is, it's an iPhone put into this

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gold encrusted pendant. And my question around this, I've got a few questions around this, but my first question is, do the players get to keep it? I I don't

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think they do. I've got a funny feeling this this is going to get recycled through all the different athletes. But what I think this really does present is

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an opportunity for this to be more like a promotion with Topshot so they can try and tie this back into that. So I really

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think Amazon needs to be reaching out to Topshot and make this something that's happening. And so we've seen a lot of popularity with Panini, well not Panini

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doing this, but Tops have done it fantastically with Tops. Now, could you do a NBA Topshop type themed where at

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the end of each game in combination with Amazon Prime, you're releasing these ultrashort printed Top Shot moments into

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the product. So, the athletes get to interact with it, but then also the players do too. I think that would be super cool. Look, I didn't spend a lot

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of money on Top Shot because it's it's not really my thing, but I really do enjoy opening digital packs, and where I enjoy opening them is on FC26. But I can

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see how this could translate back across to different MBA products. And I think that people could get back into it if the marketing's right and if people are

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given a reason to interact with it on a, you know, day-by-day basis. I I think that's where video games do it so so well in that you can you get these

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digital cards out of packets and then you actually use them in the video game.

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I personally think the problem for me on Topshot was like, yes, you open these moments and you collect these moments, but then what do you do next with them?

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I think this would give it somewhat of an interactive angle if they couldn't be then used in a video game. So yeah, for me this is super cool and I would

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definitely like to see more of these type of, you know, fantastic interactive ideas. All righty, this is just a follow on here and this is where I got the

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information that it's actually a mobile phone. So this is from at the real bead.

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Jason bead magic forward. Polo Ventura was gifted the Amazon Prime playmaker chain in the locker room after Orlando's

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play win over Charlotte. It's an iPhone guarded by some shiny bling that plays his highlights for the game. All righty.

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Up next, we've got from Giles, JY Ali S.

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Give this guy a follow. He's doing some good organic content here, and he's actually highlighting some Webby sales from this year. So, this was from March

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in 2025. WBY numbered to 24, pop four on this, sold for $25,000.

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And then we've got the quick flip here. April 2026, it sold for $138,000.

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So, an absolutely insane flip there. So, congratulations to the guy who pulled that heist off. Look, my my truly

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long-term belief about WBY is that you you have to buy numbered stuff. And the reason I believe that is because the population on this man is just

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absolutely through the roof. And so what I worry about this guy longterm is it's not his value. I think his value is

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going to be totally fine, but what is going to be the problem is the population. We're already up to 5,000 silver PSA 10s alone. So just alone,

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we've got 5,000 of those. The total population at PSA is 8,100.

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So that's going to get to 10,000. That that's just it's not an if or a when.

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You know, my crazy claim on this card was that could the silver PSA 10 get to 10,000 because it just how much stuff that's out there and everybody's going to get them and send it off to PSA.

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Look, I me personally I I think this is a massive concern. I think if you're spending this much money on a card that's a population of that higher and could go higher, it's a massive problem.

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The problem now is that okay, 25,000 is a heap of cheddar. There is no doubt about that. That's a massive risk. But

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to then flip it out into that at $138,000, now the problem is to to buy into this guy, it's it's even bigger of

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a problem. So, you know, collectors are now left with either a massive bill of of six figures and above or buying a

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card that's got a population of 5,000 on. It's a really, really tough dichotomy. And I think, and maybe this is a segment that we could do, where are

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the areas of value on Weby that you can actually get into and get into at a reasonable price? Like what can you get for $100? What can you get for 500? Even

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a,000 bucks because yeah, clearly this one here is up to 2,600. Uh listeners at home, I'm going to put this back to you

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guys. What cards are you buying that are a reasonable price that are good value?

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Is there anything out there that's left that you think is a good purchase when it comes to WBY? Yeah. All righty. This is what I would call a good news story

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for the hobby. This is announced from Topps directly from their Instagram account and they're announcing they've signed Anthony Edwards to a partnership.

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I am very excited about this and I think this is a step in the right direction.

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My personal belief is I would like to see all the athletes on the same contract and I'm sure that's impossible and I'm sure that that will never happen in my lifetime but that's just my dream.

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That's what I would personally like to see. I would like to see Jordan, LeBron, Luca, Jarant, Kevin Durant, Anthony

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Edwards all in the same product and I think that's actually better for collectors. But I can also see how it's, you know, panned out and played out like

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this. I was reading about this the other night and I didn't get a full capture on this, but it looks to me like Luca actually isn't lifetime to Panini and

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that his contract is coming up really soon. So, it could be a matter of time until we get Luca into a Topps product.

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I think we we do have to hold our breath a little bit on that, but at the same time too, this is a very exciting announcement for collectors who are out

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there. We've had a couple of guests come on to the show recently and all they've talked about is actually Anthony Edwards and how excited they are for him. So, I think just in terms of having good

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veteran autographs into products of those topline headline players, you know, this is a really, really big deal. All right, this is an interesting one.

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This is from sj2k.com.

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They are a very large hobby shop in Australia and this is their PSA announcement. PSA grading. After careful consideration, we've decided to keep our

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PSA grading service closed for the foreseeable future. The main reasons are turnaround times, price increases, and

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the added impact of US tariffs. When delays happen, the frustrations often comes back to us. And we want to make sure we only offer services we can be

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proud of. If you'd like to submit cards to PSA directly, reach out and we'll happily walk you through the process. We hope to resume our PSA submission

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service when conditions improve. So, for me, this is a really interesting one because is the issue the cost or is the issue that people are complaining and

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they now need to manage that? Because that's kind of what I'm reading into that people's orders are delayed and

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then the blowback comes to SJ. And look, I work in a customer service industry. I understand one of the worst parts of your job is dealing with people complaining. It's never a nice thing.

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But I'm actually going to tie this back to another card consigner that's in Australia, which is the hobby. That's Lane Pierce. This is not a sponsored

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segment at all. I just have respect for the guy. They are currently doing a Instagram video week in and week out.

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It's a relatively new implementation from their behalf, but literally just to update people about where things are at.

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They do do email correspondence and they also do put up some spreadsheets which you can access to see where your grading submission is. But at the end of the day, just communicating with people and

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letting them know where they're at is, you know, is a really helpful tool. So, I would actually implore SJ to reopen up their submissions because we don't need

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less reputable people submitting. We need more of them. So, if you're good at what you do, adjust your pricing. Let people make the decision for themselves.

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Don't take that decision out of their hands. I I personally think, you know, people are grown people. If you tell them, look, it could be six months up to

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eight months, and then people willingly know and put their cards in, you know, I really think, you know, we're all grown men, right? All right. This is a really fun one for me for a number of reasons.

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It's Steph Curry versus Kai Leonard.

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It's PSA versus BGS, and it's just a regular old silver card versus a juicy, juicy patch autograph that's also a

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rookie card. So, where do we go from here? I think we start off here with the Steph Curry card. 2012 Panini Prism PSA

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10. Absolutely beautiful card. Sold for 14,999.

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This is a iconic card. It's the first year of Prism. Everybody wants these cards. I get it 100%. I personally think

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this is an overpay. It's a beautiful card, but at the same time, that is a lot of cash. Very popular guy, fantastic with media, likable dude. All right,

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we've ticked that off there. We've also mentioned in today's show that he overtook LeBron James. Now, flip across to the other one. It's a BGS card, which

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is the sign of the times. During 201213, BGS was king. PSA wasn't. So, it's completely understandable. It's in a BGS

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lab. I personally wouldn't remove it out of that. I think BGS has got enough um reputation in the hobby to maintain

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that. No dramas with that at all. A 9.5 on this card is insane. Getting a thick card graded like this is just absolutely

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unbelievable. It's number to five. Game worn patch and an oncard autograph. This guy barely signs at all. This for me is

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like a grail card. This is something that I would sell two or three of my cards in my collection to get my hands on. I personally think this is a card

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that in a ideal world where you could get as many cards as you want and you know your budget was unlimited, these are the cards I think you would put into your collection and hang on to. I

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understand that he's not the most popular guy, but I think when we look back on this guy's career, it's going to be a lot more favorable than it currently is now. So, whoever purchased

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that for $13,000, I completely tip my hat to you. That is an absolute bang. Let's go through a couple of comments here. Least

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Tough call, but got to go with the quai rookie. Yeah, I'm with with you, man.

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VIP basketball cards. That black number to 50 is going to hit 1 million in 5 years. Um, I'm assuming he's talking

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about the Quir Leonard. It's actually numbered to five, not to 50. Uh, and then we've got here JMBB cards with

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three little fire emojis. NBA playoffs is here. We've got the Detroit Pistons versus the Orlando Magic. In game one,

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we've had an upset. The Orlando Magic actually beat the Pistons 112 to 101. If you're a gambler, I hope you're okay.

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After that game, Banerio had 23 points and Kate Cunningham went off for 39.

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Good news for Cunningham fans when he's coming back from a new thorax. This is what you want to see from your star player. I'm not overly surprised to see

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an upset in this series though. Like I think Detroit's going to win the whole thing, but for Orlando to get one or two or even three games this series is not a

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complete surprise. This Magic team has been a little bit sluggish this year.

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They haven't played up to their full potential. We know they've got an absolute mozzer of talent on that team.

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It's just whether they're going to put it together and, you know, play well enough. This is a very interesting one for me. I'm actually surprised by that.

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I thought the gap on this would be much, much bigger. Paula Banchero, gold number to 10. PSA 9, sold for $34,000.

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Kate Cunningham, which we've been speaking about him a lot and just how hot he is within the hobby, sold for $40,000. Uh, again, PSA 9. I think the

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numbers are right, but I what I probably do think is that the Cunningham should be a lot higher than that. The reason I say that is because his silver the last

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6 months is up 100% and that's currently trading at $1,000 US. So for me, there's just so much more movement on that card.

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40k is a lot. If that was a PSA 10, that could actually be a six figure card.

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Let's do one more card versus card. Then I've got a listener question and then we're going to tie this bad boy off for today. We're going to keep this one nice and short and sweet. We got Jaylen

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Johnson here. His gold prism PSA9 sold for $13,350

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versus Kyle Anthony Towns BGS9.5 and that lasts for $9,300.

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If I had to choose between one of these two, I'm absolutely going for Jaylen Johnson. It's crazy to me how talented

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Carl Anthony Towns is actually how good his career regime has been. and he's just one of those guys in the hobby that just really hasn't caught on for for

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whatever reason that that that is. You can make a really strong argument that he's actually undervalued. And if you said that to me, I wouldn't disagree

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with you. The reason I say this is based on population. So Carl Anthony Towns

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2015 silver rookie PSA 10 population is just $171 and it last sold for $170. I

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think that's a totally fine purchase. I think if you're buying this long-term, you're going to be totally fine. The total population on this card is 807 and

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that includes 471 BGS cards. Again, that's more of a sign of the time. A lot more cards were going off to PS, sorry, to BGS at that particular time. I'm just

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going to go with the Jaylen Johnson. I think this guy's super hot at the moment. I think he's had a huge breakout year this year and there's no reason to think he can't continue to improve his

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game. the assist numbers that he's got this season. 8.7 assists per game for me is just absolutely outstanding and and frankly I can't believe that he has that

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many assists. Like I would never have picked that for his development. All righty. This question is from Cooper's Card and Collectibles. So, thank you so

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much for reaching out, man, sending me that lovely message on Instagram. And your question is, it's around burnout

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and people losing perspective of the true collecting side of the hobby. At the end of the day, we all do this because of the excitement it gives us, like that little 10-year-old version of yourself ripping packs just to collect.

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I see so many people comp driven. How do people manage burnout in the hobby? So, I'm going to put this up as a Facebook post and I'll also put this up onto

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socials. If you're listening to the pod, feel free to answer it. Now, my personal question with how do I avoid burnout in the hobby is I've had so many people ask

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me over the years, am I going to be doing card collecting full-time? Am I going to be doing flipping full-time? Am I going to do the podcast as a job? And

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pretty much every single time my answer to that is is actually no. And one of the big reasons why I say no to that is because for me, this is a hobby. And

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part of a hobby means to me is I can do this when I want to do it. So, like, yes, I have things that I want to do every week. And I I do give myself small

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deadlines. Like, that's true. But I don't have to put out a podcast every week. I don't have to put up Instagram clips, you know? I don't have to sell x

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amount of cards to um pay my mortgage or you know pay my car registration or put fuel in my car and I think that for me

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would be so much pressure that I would definitely not enjoy the hobby anymore and I would be comps driven and

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absolutely it takes takes it away from you know the pure the enjoyment of it.

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Now am I throwing shade at people that do that? Absolutely not. We need all these different people in the ecosystem grinding out doing whatn not sales,

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doing Facebook sales, listing 99 cent auctions, eBay, the whole thing. So this it's not like that at all. But me, how I

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manage my stress and how I enjoy the hobby? Absolutely. Do I take time off from breaks every now and then? Yeah, I do. Do I not rip product for Well,

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actually at the moment I'm on a really really long dry streak of ripping some product to the point actually tonight I'm I'm going to rip some product and so yeah that's personally how I management.

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I I I don't do things you know as a job and it supplements my my career. It

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stands along my career and it gives me that downtime and and lets me have some some peace and enjoyment in my life. So, I'll definitely love to hear your

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perspectives on this and thank you so much, man, for the question and again for your kind words in the group chat.

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Thank you so much everyone for listening to this week's show. I really appreciate everyone who has tuned in today.

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Absolutely fantastic. And we'll catch you next week. All righty, let's do some shoutouts. NBA Card Kings, Clear View

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Cards, and Ultimate Collectibles Australia, what's up guys? Thank you so much for jumping into the live. Hope you guys are really well. If you've got any