💣 BLOCKBUSTER BLITZ: with @SHAQFOO32 Giannis, LaMelo & Kawhi Traded + Hobby on a Budget! 💸

The NBA landscape has been completely shattered! This week on You Can’t Comp This, host Russell Gibson is joined by co-host Joe Foo (@shaqfoo32) to break down an absolute avalanche of blockbuster trades and draft-night drama that has upended the trading card market.

From the thermonuclear Giannis Antetokounmpo trade to Miami to LaMelo Ball's new home with the Wolves, we analyze exactly what these historic moves mean for card values, market speculation, and your collection.

Inside This Episode:

• 🏝️ Giannis to South Beach: The Greek Freak and Bobby Portis head to Miami for Tyler Herro, Jaime Jaquez Jr., Kel'el Ware, and a haul of picks.
• 🐺 LaMelo Joins Antman: Breaking down the hobby implications of LaMelo Ball being dealt to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Naz Reid and draft capital.
• 🌲 Ja Morant to Portland: Analyzing the shocking trade sending Ja to the Trail Blazers for Jerami Grant and Kris Murray.
• 🦖 The Klaw's Return: Kawhi Leonard heads back to Toronto alongside Brandon Ingram and Gradey Dick.
• 🐻 The New-Look Grizz: Memphis reloads instantly by acquiring Isaiah Stewart, international star Karim Lopez, and dominant Duke phenom Cam Boozer.
• 📉 The Hobby on a Budget: Our massive strategy breakdown for building a premium collection across every single tier: $0, $1, $5, $10, $25, $50, $100, and $150!

🎙️ Available now on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify! (Check the link in our bio to stream!)

Transcript

Welcome everybody to this week's show.

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This is the You can't comp this NBA trading card podcast. I am your host Russell Gibson and as you can see the

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mighty Shak Fujofu combo is on the show today. Joe, what's up man?

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Hey Ross, thanks for having me back again man.

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Thanks for coming. It's going to be a fun fun show. What do you want to talk about?

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There's so much happening in this off season. I did not expect a lot of this.

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Um, obviously we got to start with the bombshell which is uh Giannis Giannis and Bobby Poris going to the Heat. Uh in

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exchange for the Bucks getting Tyler Herrow, Haimei Hakez, Khal Wear, [snorts] uh Kisparas, Yakonis,

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uh a first round pick the number 13 in 2026, the number 13 lucky 13 unprotected first round picks in 2031

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uh and 2033 2030 [snorts] uh uh 2030, sorry, first round pick swap. Uh 2033

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second round pick. So, it was quite a swag.

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Yeah, it's a huge hole. I mean, you have to pay a lot to get a guy like Giannis and he's still relatively in his prime.

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Maybe a tiny little bit past it, but you're getting an absolute A-lister in this guy. And I think the Miami Heat the last few years have been trying their

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dandest to get an A-lister. So, they finally got their guy. And I think the other thing, too, is it's a very Miami

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Heat thing to do is trade away all their future assets. like this is not the first time that they've emptied their draft picks to try and get a guy. So I

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think for me the really big thing is like what's the rest of the Miami Heat roster going to look like? Because at this stage it doesn't make a whole bunch of sense.

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They still got the going joke is basically it's Giannis Bam and a bag of potato chips versus you know a bunch of

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anybody they can get from LA Fitness to play alongside them. Uh but what it actually looks like is uh Giannis Bam uh

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Wiggins uh Tim Hardway Jr. they signed him to a one-year 6.5 million deal and then they'll keep um they'll keep

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and retain Davon Mitchell their um the point guard.

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I think that's the big one for me. Like if you're looking at who is going to be the opportunistic guy who's going to benefit from this, I think Davon Mitchell as the roster stands now is like the really big standout.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And I think the other one too is Nicole Yovic because that losing Jamie Harkz that really sort of

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cleans up court time in that sort of wing rotation cuz they do like to play guys a little bit positionously. So I

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think that's going to help him. And then to a degree probably Khal where stepping away is going to give him a few more minutes to play into it, isn't it?

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Bobby Poris is there. Oh, Norman Pow's there, isn't he? So then Norman may get traded. So, I wouldn't I'd hold my breath on Norman.

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Why do you think Norman Pal will get traded?

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I think it's a money issue. Uh they could probably move him off for some pieces and there's uh there's a few offers uh coming through that Miami can't match.

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So, don't be surprised if Norman Pal gets moved on pretty soon.

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See, I'm the opposite in that space because look at his contract for the next five years. 15 16 18 19 20. Yep.

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Um sorry, let me rephrase that. Oh, is he unrestricted?

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Yes. Yeah. Right.

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So, so yeah, there is room for him to move and there's room for somebody to swoop in and steal him.

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And why not? I mean, he was he was basically one of their leading scorers uh last season, you know, possibly even

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ahead of BAM really like Yeah.

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Like for most of the season. Yeah, there's no scenario he comes back getting paid 15 or $20 million a year, does it? Like he's at least a 30 $35 million player now, isn't he?

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He would he would definitely command that after being quite steady last season. He was very steady. Shot the ball really well. Just a steady offensive scorer.

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Yeah. So I I wouldn't be surprised if some team offers him his 30 million and he gets and he and he moves on. If you're buying into someone from the

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Miami Heat at the moment, who are you looking to to buy into after this trade?

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I think look, Giannis pretty much stands to gain the most. Uh it's he's he's been a bit stagnant of late. He's held his

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value. Uh he's in a position now with a real real finals contender. Uh, we always talk about the finals being a

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really good chance to push a val player's value and him pairing up with Bam and hopefully they can pick up some

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more veteran pieces to round out this team. Um, they could make a real genuine push.

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So, looking at Giannis' silver PSA 10 value, it's currently trading at $7,100.

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Normally the card we would look at is the silver PSA 10. But I think for Giannis the better thing to do is actually look at the base because the

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population on the silver is just 88. And the total number of sales as you can see here it's there's a few there the last 12 months but it's really not much. I

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think we'll see heaps more on the on the base which I think will give us a bit better of an idea in terms of trends. So you can see see here straight away look how many more sales is there.

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Population is 3,251. That's the only thing about that. Mhm.

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So when

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[snorts]

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I mean technically he's actually gone down I think since the trade. It's only a little bit though. He's gone down about $60 since the trade. But this card

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this fluctuates. I was actually looking at the PSA 9 the other day and doing a segment on this.

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And the fluctuation on this card is amazing.

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You can almost like a little roller coaster.

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Almost make the argument you could sort of fluctuation trade this card. Yeah. Yeah. It's actually all over the place.

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If you did miss currently up. It's currently up.

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Well, if you did miss that segment that I was doing, because I think when I did that segment, I actually thought it was around the 200, sorry, the $150 mark.

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Yeah, I think that's a really good purchase. Not bad, right?

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I'm going to double down on that. I feel really happy with with that as a find.

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And I think particularly when when you look at the the price difference between the nine and the 10, I think that's something I want to do a bit more work on. Like when

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there's a massive discrepancy between the 9 and the 10, it's not massive, but it's at it's 3x in this instance.

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I think those I think those gaps can close. And so I think that's a a really good way to actually look at a card and like try and find a little bit of value

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there. Well, when you can't especially when you can't afford the silver, like when the silver is so far out of reach, you got to think of the alternatives.

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Oh, I think absolutely. And the train is gone on that on that card.

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It's 7,000 US. Like that's Yeah, it's a really big ball of cheese. Yeah.

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For for us mere mortals, that's that's well well outside of reach. [laughter] Um, who else on the roster should we

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talk about before we move on to the next trade? I look Davian, I mean, he's young, he's getting minutes, uh, you know, like he's he's gonna he's going to

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be a starter this season. He has shown that he's got flashes to to to do better. Um, so, you know, it'll be his

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first starting gig after being a rookie for so many years.

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You know, look, from my perspective, I'm probably the wrong person to talk to about this

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just for the fact that he was a Kings rookie. So, like clearly I'm I'm biased in this space. I've actually got a fair bit of this guy just from going into

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breaks and just picking up sort of random bits and pieces. But my take on this guy is that he's an excellent 3 and D player and

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you know he would be perfect on the Spurs. He's the type of guy that would just fit into a system, you know, once he was put into the right system. So I've got really high hopes for him in

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Miami and if he does end up being the starter, I wouldn't be overly surprised because he is competent on both sides of the ball and he's actually getting

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better. he's shooting in particular. And look at the prices on this guy. $15 for a one and one on card autograph.

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Obviously the the one touch on this is scratched and the photograph is terrible. But I'm sure the card inside that's absolutely lovely. Look at this.

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This is the Spectra RPA patch there for $30 again on card

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autograph. But someone like this is really a bargain basement purchase and you might see a bit of movement on this guy.

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Just a fun little side PC, you know, like it's not it's not always going to be about making money, make money, but if you want to just collect somebody who's fun, going to give you some

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minutes on the court and you know, he's a starter, you know, like I I think that that's that's like that's the part of collecting where you actually get to

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watch your player grow. And we talked about it last time when I was on um where my buddy Josh collecting Mitchell Robinson having meaningful minutes in a

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meaningful playoff run in a in a championship you know season you know like getting to watch him and like he was like what peanuts to collect

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you know but that's his PC player and you know he gets minutes and he gets to play probably cheaper than Devon Mitchell to be honest centers go less than point

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guards so that's his true vertical RPA that sold for 287 so yeah so you like like comparatively like if you were trying to go after like a

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Giannis or Hell Shack or like you know it just it'd be way too expensive.

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Did you want to break this one down, man?

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Yeah, I mean you got like um you got Wiggins also signing a threeyear $64 million deal. Uh solid little pickup,

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you know, not breaking the bank. Once again, $30 million roughly or 20 millionish dollars every year going forward for the next three years is a

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good little pickup. you know, NBA championship vet. Um, good scoring pedigree, just just a nice addition and

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a good guy to kind of throw the ball out to on the wing alongside Tim Hardaway Jr. as well.

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Yeah, I I think now is a really good time just to refresh everyone's memory on what the maximum salary is in the NBA. So, six or

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fewer years in the NBA, it's $41 million a year. 7 to n years of experience is 50 million. So, for You know, just for some context, that's about 50% of the max.

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So, I actually think even though Andrew Wickens probably hasn't lived up to his true potential that everyone was hoping

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for, him being the number one overall pick, he plays both ends of the court.

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He's a really good rebounder. He's never the type of guy who's going to be making waves in the locker room or anything like that. So, I think him as a role

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player as a second, third, or fourth option is is what you want. And that's sort of about the salary where he sits at for me. So I agree with you. I think

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this is a really tidy little deal. And it's a good it's a good pickup for the Heat to be honest.

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It's a very Heat pickup, you know, like he's just a solid vet, not going to make waves, very Norman Powell. Comes in, does his job, scores 15 to 20 points.

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And so what it's just saying in the comments here from Drew It Up, shaved almost $9 million from his player option. So Pat Riley strikes again. I

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mean, you like that's brilliant, isn't it? the heat bring him back and save money. That's just Yeah. Fantastic. That's very Pat Riley.

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Are you buying Andrew Wiggins though?

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Uh look, I had some Andrew Wiggins back in the day and he was probably one of the rookies that burned me when I was like back in my prospecting years. Uh so

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I' I've uh I've learned my lesson uh prospecting fresh rookies and Andrew Wiggins was the catalyst for that.

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I mean, I'm I'm actually going to say that's not bad for a silver PSA 10. $41.

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Yeah, he's a fun collection. He's a fun like once again, like another great player you just pick up. You know, he's going to get minutes. He's going to show up on the court. He's not going to do

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dumb stuff off the court and $10 for a base.

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Yeah. But once again though, this probably won't grow.

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like like I'd put this in my column of like it probably won't grow and explode. Yeah. Okay, fine. I'll give you that.

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It's more of a PC only sort of pick up, isn't it? But also, when does it get to a point where people are undervalued though? So like see

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Kevin Durant, see Shaquille O'Neal, at some point the tides turn and then people start to realize there's a bit of value in these

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guys. Like do you ever see that happening with Wiggins?

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[snorts]

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Oh, look, he was look, he's won his NBA chip. I think he'll probably join the pile of other NBA players that have won NBA chips and played meaningful minutes

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and but his value probably won't won't explode and take off. Yeah.

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Like he he wasn't he like I mean you kind of go back to like even like what was it big shop Bob and Robert Horry like he's got seven chips and and you

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know collecting his cards.

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Where where's his value sitting you know? So like you know I yeah I think he'll just yeah he'll join big shop Bob.

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He'll be one of those memorable players that us as fans of the NBA will remember him being a solid player but as collectors and there's value probably won't.

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No good call man that's that's really good. All right. LaMelo Balls also on the move.

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I'm a little Yeah. You were surprised about this one?

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I was I was actually to join you. I was equally surprised just for the fact that Yeah. that they were so good.

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Yeah, that he was good, but more to the destination that he went to. I think there's been a little bit of innuendo that the Hornets were trying to move him

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for a year, a year and a half. And so that part of it I'm not too surprised about. And also to the assets that they

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got back that I I think you can't say no to that type of package when it's being offered for a player like that. And so

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what I'm very interested in and what I really want to read more about is the Wolves because I think they're actually a deep analytics team. So the Go Bear

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acquisition was all driven by defensive analytics and I think that the um the

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Nars Reed contract was also like an excellent excellent contract and I think that's actually a really big piece of this trade in terms of like the talent

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acquisition for the Hornets. And so I think that the the Wolves are actually a lot more competent of a franchise than

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we probably give them credit for. I think just traditionally they've been so terrible for such a long time. It's almost hard to sort of see the

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transition, but my gut feeling is they've got an elite scorer with Anthony Edwards. We've got an elite defender

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with Goar. And now they've got an elite playmaker. And can those three pieces actually coexist together and do really

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well? And my gut feeling is is yes because this is my analogy on this is the Lakers last year you had three fantastic players but a lot of the

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skills that Luca Austin Reeves had and obviously Luca Dodic was that it was all skill duplication whereas what you've got here

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is like three really talented players that all do three very different things.

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And so I really hope that LaMelo goes in there and just becomes this energetic uh floor spacer

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playmaker creator that sets up LaMelo, sets up Goar for lobs, and Gobear is just cleaning the glass, blocking shots, and then Edwards just gets to go out

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there and do his thing and just become this ball swinging, high swagger, highscoring dunking machine. Do you know

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what I mean? Like that's kind of I'm hoping this is the high end of how this all sort of plays out. So I I love it when teams

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Yeah. You love it when teams sorry just swing for the fences and just have a go man. And so I I think good for them.

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They're not scared like they they like like you said they are swinging for the fence. Um there's also don't forget they still got AO Dumu on this lineup along

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with Jaden McDaniels. Uh two guys who really showed in the finals what they're capable of if left with the keys in the in the you know to the car.

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and you know two very competent you know players that go both ways as well. So this rounds out the lineup you know it's

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just like Ball Ant-Man Gobear Dumu McDaniels and yeah obviously they ship off Reed who was the sixman of the year

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um but like you said really great contract to ship off very flexible good good potential for um for the for the

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Hornets. Um, they also get an unprotected first round pick. Uh, 2033 unprotected and then some first round

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pick swaps from 2018, oh, sorry, 2028 to 2030 and then three second round picks.

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So, that's a lot of picks potential. Um, going insane amount. Yeah, it's an insane amount.

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He definitely played well last season to deserve it though. He helped. He was part of the reason why the Charlotte's resurgence last year.

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Did you also touch on the trade exception? I'm not too I can't remember if you did, if I missed it all.

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No, I didn't talk about the trade exception. So, bring that up.

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So, basically too, the Hornets also created a trade exception. So, essentially what that means is in the future they can trade that exception

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away and bring players into that falsely accumulated catch space. Is that the right way? How do you explain it? Is

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that the best way? Yeah, I think look it's as close as you can get without without you know spending too much time on it. But they basically Yeah, they

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basically opened up potential in the future.

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Yeah. So I think that's a really big deal. My fake trade that I was hoping for to happen next was that then the

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Hornets would take in Jamaran into that trade exception and then be given picks to take on that salary. So then they've like double dipped on in terms of

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getting rid of LaMelo, getting in a whole bunch of draft picks, then replacing that talent with Jamar and also getting more draft picks again, but obviously we know that didn't happen. We

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can segue into that in a second. But um just really quickly on AO Dumu, I'm not super high on this guy. So he's 6'4.

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For me, that's a little bit of a tweener.

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Y and I like his game, like don't get me wrong, but I also hope that they don't sign him for too much money. like if he

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gets less than Wigan's contract, I think that would be a good outcome. But actually looking at the contract here that's on Sprack, which is fantastic.

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They're predicting 19 million 2022 and 23, which I suppose is like Wigginsesque numbers, isn't it? So

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well the cap being 40. So yeah, look, I I'm very middling on this on this

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contract and this sort of act like he was good for them last year, but I don't think he's like $23 million a year good.

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That's my sort of gut feeling in that space.

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Yeah, look, he's just a very serviceable player. I mean, like over at Chicago, he was pretty decent, you know, and he came over and joined um and had some instant

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impact over at Minnesota as well, cuz it just it became too much of an Ant-Man carry the ball show. And so like, you

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know, when you put when you put LaMelo Ball next to Ant-Man next to like the Sumu and McDaniels, it becomes much more

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harder to guard them as a team when it's just like when it's just one guy holding the ball. It's kind of like, okay, well, we kind of know what we got to do, you

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know, but when you've got like a floor general like B who sees the court, you know, at an more than elite level, you know, it becomes a guessing game

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now. It's like what's who's what's he going to do? Is he going to lob it? Is he going to pass it? Is he going to shoot it himself? Or is he going to like create something for Ant-Man? And

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it gives Ant-Man somebody that, you know, are finally a robin to his Batman.

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He's a dynamic playmaker. Oh, he really Look, I really I I told you last time last year like Charlotte was my league

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pass team last year and they did not disappoint me.

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I think we have to talk a little bit about values here because I think potentially this will affect Anthony Edwards and I think this is going to

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definitely impact LaMelo Ball and the very very early signs of this. He's already ticked up.

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Yeah, he's about 100 bucks already.

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Well, they they paid him. They It's What's interesting is that there was they were they were both from the same draft class, weren't they?

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So, it's just kind of like it's pretty crazy to have these two guys join and they're pretty much reaching their primes. They're getting close to their

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primes now. So, like you get to see two, you know, two great talents join together in their prime. Um and yeah, young and exciting pair, too.

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Yeah. Look, I'm I'm really happy that LaMelo Ball's value is going up because I think a lot of people put a heap of money into this guy. So, if people can

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now recoup back some of that money, you know, as his value sort of goes up a bit, people start to get a bit more excited about it because he is now going

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into to a contender. Like, this isn't just sort of a middling Eastern Conference team. Like, this is going to be a legit contender in the West next year. So, I think this is going to be

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very very positive for his value. And so I think if you're holding him and you want to get rid of it,

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begin to get yourself ready to move these cards off. The question is, should you be buying into him and then looking to flip at the end of the year when the playoffs come around? Like you could

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also make a pretty strong argument for that, too. I think this people love this type of stuff. I think in terms of

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a good thing for the hobby. This is the hobby dream, isn't it? Having these two guys together.

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Yeah. And like also like it just makes this like already pretty loaded west even more loaded. It's crazy.

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So like now now you got now now you got like even more craziness happening.

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Um another another decent power, you know, rising and they and Minnesota gave teams real trouble last playoff.

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Um Anthony Edwards population on this is 2285. He's actually just entered into the $1,000 club. So, congratulations to him.

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Wow.

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He's sort of been floating around that $1,000 mark for a little while now. He hasn't seen any dramatic rise just like

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LaMelo Ball has, but he is in the last month alone, he's up 20%. So,

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yeah, I think Antman was always a pretty safe Oh, like I mean out of the the money you can bank on a player playing

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right now, he was always pretty good pickup. Like I never really poo pooed anybody who's going like I'm gonna buy some Ant-Man. I'm like not bad.

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Yeah.

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You know, like he's exciting.

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Yeah. He's exciting. He's a god, you know. He's a god. He's exciting. He gets headlines. He does he does like exciting stuff. He gets highlights,

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you know, and yeah, he he I mean, the only stuff he does outside of the court is shag women and have babies. So, you know, like he's living the rockstar

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lifestyle. He's being, [laughter] you know, he's he's not he's not doing dumb dumber stuff, I guess, you know, like

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he's not he's not, you know, hitting children or like pointing guns around, you know, like he's not committing crimes. I think that's he's not committing crimes. Yeah, he's

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not committing crimes. He's just doing what athletes do.

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Look, I I think that he's going to probably keep sliding up this year. I think this very sort of steady trickle

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up that we've seen, I don't see a good reason this is going to not happen or not continue to happen.

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No, look, I'd be shocked. I'd be shocked if if anything happens to Amand values.

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I I think what my underlying concern is is like what is his peak going to be and

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at one at what point do people sort of start to unload these because they're tired of that investment cycle and they're not actually there to collect

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him anymore. I think that's the part in the back of my head where I'm not too sure about. But I think I was so wrong

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about SGA. I was very wrong about Jaylen Brunson. And maybe you just have to just ride with it until something terrible happens until he has a terrible injury

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or he does commit a terrible crime. And until that point, you know, he's been not injuryprone. steady.

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I mean, like probably the last time we saw a real big surge was probably last year's, like the the year before's finals where he had that, you know, that

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real crazy run and he was playing absolutely on fire.

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Um, 25, I think that's what you're referring to. There was a very steady uptick there.

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That was the That was the He's the Michael Jordan's baby. He is the he is the you know he's like he's Michael Jordan's son and he's the second coming

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of MJ uh uh peak. We didn't get to see that this year. Minnesota he was mainly injured. He was mainly hobbled. He had

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some he still had some amazing moments but he was still very hobbled from that knee injury that was just a freak accident. Like he was balling.

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So already on today's show we've covered Giannis trade. We've covered the LaMelo Bald trade. We have not covered the LeBron James free agency announcement.

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And before we even get to that, we're going to get to something bigger, which is the Jamaran trade. So, just a fun fun off season so far.

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It's been an amazing trade season. I mean, when we when you when we when I approached you about this idea of talking about it was originally going to

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be a draft show. [laughter] We haven't mentioned anything about the draft and then and then um and then you know

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all this craziness went down and in between that time even more trades happened. Uh so yeah so I guess we

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should probably move on to the Jarant movement right which is 100%. Yeah which is what the Jarant goes to the blazers for Jeremy Grant and Chris

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Murray and no picks whatsoever were moved.

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So the rumors behind that is that teams were asking Memphis to give them draft

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equity. So in terms of this trade here, it's actually a win for Memphis because they haven't had to give up equity to

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get rid of this guy. So that sort of explains the draft the lack of draft assets being moved

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considering what we just saw with his value just went just crated almost you know like this was a guy who's two-time allstar

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you know peak of his powers probably what like two years ago when they made that playoff run. Yeah, maybe even three years ago now, that

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playoff run, um, they were that was like the the good old days of Memphis where

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they had him, Jiren Jack, Triple J, um, they had Dylan Brooks, and they had Bane.

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And I don't think they've actually been able to return ever since that fateful run where they were good in the West.

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Did you hear last week's episode that we did with David Love? Yes.

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So, I asked him about his injury history and what should we be worried about. Yeah.

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He actually didn't give me anything that was going to make me super worried. The guy that he actually was like, "Oh, that's a bit

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that's a bit of a worry was was Zion." So, yeah.

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Um I actually think healthwise it's not going to be an issue. I got to tell you, man. I think

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there was a lot going on between the coach and the team. It wasn't just a Jarant thing last year. I I think there was a lot going on.

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Yeah. Oh, man. Like that that bench was so fractured. Uh it was not funny. I I Yeah. I've never seen a team that was

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just there was just no hype. There was just no love on the court anymore.

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And if it does come out that there was a rift between the coach and Jarant and the Grizzlies organization went with the coach

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and I predicted this last year cuz I actually saw one of their games and the whole body language and the sets they were running for Jar and just everything

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was just it it's not a it was never going to be a good fit. I think the personality of Tumas is just not right

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for Jaran and what he needs and the sense. Yeah. Just I don't want to go back through it again, but

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honestly I I want to hear the the locker room scuttlebutt around that. I I really do.

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And if that is the case Yeah. And if that's the case, like the general manager has to be fired. cannot pick this coach who is not really that

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proven at all over Jamaran. It's just insanity. Talent wins. Head coaches are great. They don't win.

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Well, they have. And uh that this gives um this gives Blazers a pretty pretty tidy lineup of Morant, Abdia, Lilid, Scoot, and Klingan.

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Yeah. So, uh, you know, kudos to our friend, um, to our friend Big Al for [laughter] sticking to his, uh, his Scoot his Scoot pickups.

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I mean, is Scoot and Jarant going to be playing at the same time? Because actually, I think if anyone's going to be saying R, it's going to be Scoot Collectors. I think that's a terrible thing.

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Scoot can come off the bench as a sixth man.

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Um, he can he definitely played meaningful minutes last year. Like, he just come off and microwave, get 10, 15. Yeah.

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You know, and his shooting has improved, his shooting has improved. Yeah.

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His health has improved. He's just he's just more steady out there, you know, like, you know, having watched a lot of Blazers games this season. Uh they were

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my number two um League Pass team this year and just watching the growth of ADIA and and Scoot um come together.

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That was, you know, that was pretty fun. So, shout out in the Instagram comments.

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Rosco let's go jailblazers 2.0. Do you think that that's a risk of happening?

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They're gonna have a Jailblazers 2.0 scenario. [laughter] Not not quite. You can't you can't uh

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you can't you can't match the uh the the Rasheed Wallace era Jailblazers. Um that was something special.

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I agree with you. I think looking down that roster, there's no one else there that's actually got behavioral issues at all. Drew Holiday is an outstanding citizen.

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You've heard nothing bad about Scoot.

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You got Clingani is Denny is clean. Damian Lillard is the epitome of a professional.

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Yeah.

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And Shaden Sharp, I've heard nothing bad about this kid either. So, look, I actually think the Blazers have done a really good job of retooling this

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roster. I think the Denny Arja pick was an absolute steal. I think Kamar is going to be a fantastic NBA pro. Yep.

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Clingen looks like a pretty serviceable big. Young Hansen seems to be pretty talented and you know he could go sort of either way between a bench player and a starter.

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Yep.

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Lillard I think actually can coexist with Jaran. I think they'll be very very small in the back court when that happens, but it'll still be fun to see.

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Shaden Sharp has got a heap of potential. So look, it's going to be a fun roster. I didn't watch very much Blazes at all last year, man. But I I

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think there's enough here to actually tune into a couple of League Pass games this year.

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I mean, there was a reason why they made the play in and they actually managed to do a little bit of damage uh on the way on the way through. You know, they managed to get their way into the

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finals. You know, albeit they had to play the Spurs first, but you know, when you say it like that, they're a playing team and then you add

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Jarant to them. That's actually it's pretty juicy, isn't it? When you say that, it'll be fun. [snorts] So the public sentiments actually swung

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already. So he is up from $185. His last two sales was $2.88 and 291. So

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obviously there's a bit of positive public sentiment there. Is this the moment in time where you're buying into Jarant, mate?

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Look, I would have bought before the upswing. Um I was definitely buying a little bit when he basically hit rock bottom. I think I was I think I joined a

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few people and I think even even a few times before that you know I always believe in buying in the dip and Jamron was definitely one of them. He didn't

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get hurt so badly that he just doing dumb stuff you know like when he first got suspended it was just dumb stuff. He

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didn't go get hurt. He didn't you know it didn't affect his uh but then he eventually got injured. Uh, and that's when it started to worry me a little bit

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because players like him who are so dynamic who rely on their dunking ability, you know, injuries to the knee, injuries to the ankle, injuries to the

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foot, you know, like that's the kind of stuff that scares you when you're collecting jar.

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I think the concern is valid, but has the pendulum swung too far the opposite way? And I think they just been I think people

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just been hungry. I think like I think like people people have been waiting on J like the people who've held on to J have been waiting for this moment

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and they are probably using this opportunity now to recoup some money that they lost.

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Yeah. And that's totally fine. I just I think for example so at the moment he's trading at $290.

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Denny Arja is not in the card ladder ladder system. So I'm just using the sales feature here but 300 285 280.

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Yeah, he's technically more expensive than Jamaran is. So, I think in that instance, you can make the argument that he probably is a little bit undervalued

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at the moment, but if you're asking me who I've got my eye on on this roster, it's Denny. I think this guy is an absolute stud. He is such a hard worker,

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man. You can't help but get behind and, you know, feel good watching this kid play. I I think there's a lot to like about this guy.

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He was one of my favorites to watch last year. I mean, he just puts his head down. I was actually worried that WBY when they played that Spurs series, I was worried that he would get a bit

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exposed because his game was attacked the ring and you know and attack and attack the paint and like you know what

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happens when you attack the paint and there's a 7 foot five monster waiting for you and he showed that he could still get the job done.

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Yeah, he's an absolute beast, isn't he? Yep.

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All righty, man. Next up, we are going to talk about the Toronto Raptors and the Kai Leonard trade. He's back. He's back, baby.

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I I love I like I like I was actually kind of quietly smiling when this happened again. I thought I was actually like was was my NBA feed kind of like

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broken? Did I kind of like step back in time and and it kind of just showed me flashback um trades and then I realized

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that actually was a real trade. He's actually gone back to uh Toronto and the Clippers will receive Brandon Ingram,

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Grady Dick, uh two unprotected first round picks in 20 in 31 and 2033 and a

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pick swap in 2027 and two second round picks. So, not a bad little haul for Kawi Leonard.

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So, I think my question to you is why like why are the Clippers doing this trade and why is the Raptors doing this trade? What's your take on that?

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I [snorts] think look the Raptors the Raptors felt that they were that they were close last year. They felt, you know, close to what though? Like I don't know about that.

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They played a lot better than people expected to be honest. Like they they they were reason they were well balanced team. Three like three stars all

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coexisting all like RJ Barrett, Barnes and and Ingram all had decent numbers.

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They were all like in the high teens.

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They were very they were a very hard team to kind of pin down and stop offensively when everyone scores, you

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know. Um, so I think they made this move because well, it worked for them last time when they had Kawaii in the in the

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building. Uh, so why not run it back again?

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And you can probably you can move off Ingram who was probably going to be a bit more expensive. Um, he's going to get a bit costly. So, and yeah, Grady

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Dick eventually he's going to get, you know, you're going to eventually have to pay Grady uh cuz he's almost out of his rookie contract. Yeah.

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I So, from my This is my perspective. I think that from the Clippers point of view, they were unloading the Quiet Leonard contract.

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Yep.

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Last year, this was probably one of my favorite stories. It actually flew a little bit under the radar. He signed a no appearance contract with a company

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that Balmer had put a whole bunch of money into. So another way of saying that is that he signs a contract with a

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company, Balmer gives them a whole bunch of money, 50 million, they keep 5 million and give 45 million to Kqu Leonard. And so

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essentially it's you're just paying an athlete under the table, which is a complete circumvention of the salary cap. And I'm actually not too sure if

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this has all been finalized yet. So potentially there'll be even though they've traded him away,

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they can still be penalized for this in the future. But I believe it's got to do with that in terms of just sort of

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removing themselves from that part. I think the other thing that the Clippers quietly did last year was get a little bit younger. And so Kai Leonard is now 35 years of age.

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Yep.

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And that actually takes me to my next point. I don't understand why the ros the Raptors have invested into this guy when you got Scotty Barnes at 24,

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Barrett at 26, and Quickly at 27. Like, he just doesn't fit the timeline for these guys. And I don't think he's got enough left in the tank to actually push

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this team over the top. So that actually makes me think that it's more about unloading Brandon Ingram, who essentially became the scapegoat in the

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playoffs last year. I think that when you're paying somebody $40 million a year, I think that's reasonable to expect them to get 25 or 30 points in a game. And he did. He played terribly.

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But I don't think that he was the the cause of their problems last year to be honest with you. I think there was a little bit more going on with that

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roster. He was he was he was good, but he wasn't great. And I think he needed to be great.

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No, they needed him to be great, and he just wasn't great for the 40 million that they were paying him.

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Um, so I think, look, they bring back they bring back an old favorite, they run back an old favorite. Ko Kawaii, you

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know, was supposed to, you know, get his chip and stay and, you know, he was supposed to leave. Actually, he never promised them anything. He just said, "I'm just going to come in for a year

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and get the job done." and he came in for the year, got the job done, got them a chip, and so, you know, he's a good look. He's a he's a he's a

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good vet. You know, for the minutes that I saw him play for the Clippers this year, he was definitely still, you know, still Kawaii. Um, even in the All-Star

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game, he still was Kawaii. Um, you know, one of the quite superstars in the league.

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So, look, I'm a huge fan of Kai Leonard.

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So, I think if I'm going to say this, I feel like I'm not going over the top saying this, but you can't rely on this guy anymore. He's sort of what a 45 a 50

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game a year guy. I mean, come on. We all sort of know what this this guy is at this point. So, I think I think probably Toronto are hoping that their young legs can kind of carry him

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through the regular season and then just unlock him just before playoffs and, you know, dust off the cobwebs and go

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kawaii. just wind up that little mechanical gear and [laughter] and and kind of just let him loose in the playoffs, right?

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Let the Terminator free. Look, maybe I'm being too pessimistic about this and I need to be a bit more optimistic. I think you're right, man. I found the numbers for Brandon Ingram in the

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playoffs. So, 12 points, two turnovers, two fouls, uh6 steals, eight blocks, 2.2 assists,

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three rebounds. It's all pretty anemic stuff. It's nothing that you're going to write home about. 328%

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from the field, 38 from three, 73.9 from the free throw line. Like it's it's pretty average stuff, isn't it? When you're paying a guy 40 million,

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you've got Yeah. Like you've got like some highlights. Well, so some some serious lowlights between some, you know, middling games. Like he was five

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of nine, 17 points, then three of 15 for seven, then five of nine again for 12, and then six of 23 for 23. And then the

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piece to resistance zero of two for one point, but he only played 11 minutes.

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So, you know, can't really That's fair.

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That's fair at that point. Yeah.

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Yeah. I'm just like I was just like, "Yeah, you can't do much." Uh, have we covered everything on that?

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I think I think so. I think the uh Look, the jury will be is still out on whether this is going to be a good trade or not.

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Um, but I think it does kind of fill two gaps for two things. a scapegoat uh in Brandon Ingram and Clippers can put some distance between themselves and Kawaii.

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Yeah. Look, honestly, does anyone really like care about this trade ultimately of everything that's happening? Probably not so much. This will go right under the radar until we start next season.

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Yeah. I I think there's going to be some fans out there that don't even realize that Ingram's on the Clippers.

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No. Or they even realize that he was even on Toronto.

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[laughter]

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All right. You want to talk about the Grizzlies roster? Do you want to talk about the Grizzlies roster or should we talk about LeBron James at this point?

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Uh, look, I think I think look, I think we should talk about LeBron. I think it wouldn't be fair to LeBron and what he's, you know, um, if we if we skip him

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and talk about the Grizz. Um, but yeah, he's he's uh he's finally said goodbye to the Lakers. Uh, he's told them,

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"Look, I'm not." He didn't do a TV special, though. So, I'm a little bit disappointed with him, to be honest. Man, he kind Look, he got his he got his agent to do the job. He told Rich Paul,

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"Hey, tell them I'm not coming back." And he's not coming back.

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Um, but but in true dad fashion, he managed to secure his son the bag beforehand, though. That's [laughter] right.

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He managed to get Brody James one last contract guarantee of 2.3 million before he walked out the door. Yeah, that was

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actually really well played by the LeBron James family. All righty. So, I think at this point there's nothing really to report here. This is all just

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pure speculation. So, my question to you is going to be what's your top three favorite landing spots for this guy and

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and why? I mean, look, it it a pairing with Curry has always been in the has been in the hopes for a lot of people

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because we see them play in the All-Star game in the uh All-Star games and in team USA so many years.

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We know that Draymond and LeBron have got business ties together and they hang out socially. So, yeah, I agree with you. That's that's on my list. Yeah, they're buddies, man. And then like I

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think look even even Dre not Draymond not taking his like he didn't opt in on his player option which was a sizable

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chunk for a guy his age like 27.6 million he turned that down be a free agent.

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I heard part of his podcast today he actually said that he did that on purpose to give the franchise flexibility and a chance to retool. And

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so he basically just said like this, the way I interpret that was like they've done so much for me. I'm going to do something for the team. Like

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I love that stuff so much. And it actually takes me back to when Gary Payton, Carl Malone signed for a minimum contract and go to the Lakers just to

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make a juggernaut team. They never won the championship, but just the fact that they would actually do that to give themselves the opportunity like that stuff just speaks to me on such a level.

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It's like sacrif like Yeah. just kind of the humbling of of these great giants, right? Yeah.

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We I love that too, you know, like I love the I love the stories of the players who come from nowhere like the Alvarados of the league who've just like

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come from nothing, you know, and get to You're referring to Draymond being a second round pick. Is that what you're talking about?

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Yeah, like Draymond was a second round pick. No one expected much out of him.

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Came on to become one of the most defensive, you know, one of the most defensive, fiercely defensive players in the league. one of the best. Um, very

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cerebral player, high IQ, and yeah, very well respected.

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Yeah. All right. Lakers is your first pick. What have you got your two other picks?

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I wouldn't mind. Look, I think I think at this stage it's nostalgia, right?

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you're either thinking a back to South Beach situation where he can he can ultimately go join you know Giannis and

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Bam and be and you know it just depends for how much though like like yes we've all talked about LeBron having made his millions.

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Um how much would he sign for? Like would he do a vet minimum to join a team that's a contender? I've just look every

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every angle has told me no he won't do that. So, he went about this on his podcast today.

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He said that LeBron hasn't asked for a dollar figure. He's seeking happiness, which implies that he will take less money to make it happen. Yeah.

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Okay. Well, you know, I'll look I'll wait to see that because like he's he's opted in in every opportunity to make money.

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Um he look every every turn he's always chosen the money. You know, he's had opportunity at the Lakers. I remember, you know, talking to ads about it, too.

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like it was, you know, like he said, he's always put the financial benefit of his family first before the team.

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Um, I haven't seen him sacrifice yet.

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So, I'll wait to see if he does, but if he does, Miami would be the perfect place for that. you know, take a take

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less money to go join Giannis and Bam where you've got two real, you know, juggernaut centers and bigs that he can

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just lob to that he could just pass the ball off to. And he's also got two other strong vets in THJ, Tim Hardaway Jr. and Wiggins on the wings.

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Um, and yeah, Davon Mitchell to back it all up.

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Number two, you got one more or that's it?

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I look number three. The other the other thing that has been popping up is obviously just the nostalgia tour is once again go back to Cleveland where it

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all began. Um you know Oakland is where his heart is and he has been proudly repping Oakland. Um there has been talks

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that you know was it uh James Harden has been you know waiting to sign his deals

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make his deals um in anticipation for you know making space for for for James to land first. Uh, so yeah, this would

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it'll be a nostalgia. I would not see him going anywhere else. I mean, what, New York? But that just doesn't make sense to go to New York.

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Yeah, they're stacked already, right?

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They're stacked already. They don't really need him. But like a team like Cleveland who got a pretty good team, you know, you got Donovan Mitchell, you've got Harden, you've also got a

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pretty good center, you know, backup center, you know, centers in Jared Allen and Evan Mobley. um they haven't made

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any moves yet. So they they very very potentially have the ammo and the and the and the parts to make it happen.

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Yeah. So I like your choices, but I've gone in a bit of a different direction.

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I've gone more for like f like fantasy sort of options. I think yours are very logical, by the way, so I got no troubles with it.

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Uh the first one, Golden State, that was on my list, so that's done and dusted.

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My second pick is the Denver Nuggets because can you imagine the IQ on the court of Yokic and LeBron at the same

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time? I just think that would be the most amazing duo to play together.

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Like imagine those two running a pick and roll together. Like that would just be it could still happen. I mean there was chitter chatter. There was chitter

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chatter about was it a Jaylen Brown to to Denver for Murray. Um Murray hasn't been dealt off yet. Uh there is room on the board for a Denver a Denver move.

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I actually I don't mind that trade at all. That's a really good trade because the Nuggets need extra athleticism so bad. That would be actually quite nice.

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Yeah. Uh and then also a reliable a reliable scorer like like Murray is a great is a good scorer but he's not reliable. Like he'll have a

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game of 40 points and then the next game he'll drop 12, you know? Like, I just need you to drop your 20 and just be steady [laughter] for like, you know,

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and just be steady. I don't care about you dropping 50 points and then giving me seven. I need you to Okay, just give me 20 every game, man.

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I probably like him as a scorer better than Brown. Actually, I find Brown a little bit clunky and sort of robotic,

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but maybe it'll be great around Yoki because Yoki would just set him up all the time.

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You need somebody steady. He He want Look, Yic needs somebody steady. He deserves somebody steady uh next to him.

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And yeah, like if if they land Brown and then like LeBron goes, "Oh, giddy up, you know, like you guys need a forward

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to help fill that gap, you know, that'd be awesome." You then you'd have Brown, LeBron, and Jokic. Yeah, that'd be sweet team.

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Like if you're talking fantasy, that's a that'd be a fun one.

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Yeah, that's super fun. And just hear me out on this one here. San Antonio Spurs, right?

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Yep. I think he would be a good fit because they've got a massive hole at power forward. I think we can both agree on that.

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They're a young team that's very very good and he could go in there as this sort of like old mentor that knows how

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to play the game, teach them how to work out, how to do their rehab and recovery.

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they would carry most of the regular season load and then he would just play for the most important 15 20 minutes a

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game of every single playoff game, right? Yep.

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I think that he would be fantastic front court pairing with WBY. I think he would do really well with a pick and roll say

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with with Fox and I think he and Dylan Harper would be super fun playing off each other too. So

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I think if he went to the Spurs on the minimum that would be amazing.

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Well, this this speaks to the was it the if Chris Paul was there this year, he would have been that kind of there was that chatter about how if Chris Paul was

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there, he would have been there to kind of control the team and help, you know, control their their their panic and, you know, kind of help them guide them

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through the finals. And if Paul was there, he would have led them to the finals and finished it and got the job done. Um, LeBron, LeBron very much equal

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parts, you know, very high intelligent player. Um, won't turn over the ball in key moments, which is what they were kind of lacking. They, you know, when

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when Fox didn't quite get the job done, you know, you you you really start to reach for another elder statesman that

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could help balance the boat when the waves are rocking. Yeah, it was tough to watch last year.

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It was not not to open you wounds for you, but But, you know, like like look, I like I don't mind this if they I'm just going to turn off my camera for

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a second. Just dry my eyes. Weak for a few seconds. But like look, it's a great it's a it's a great if they can afford

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it. I mean, look, once again, if if if he's willing to take pay cuts and and

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kind of pick his landing spot, you know, where would he do the most damage? And look, honestly, like Denver would be

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great pairing him with Jokic Brown. Um, San Antonio would be great. All that youth to carry him, you know. Um, Miami would be great. A

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reunion in South Beach, you know, Cleveland would be I think, look, all of them are very viable. He's got he's got

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and look, he hasn't even said that this is his last season. So, we might even get to play this game again end of next year. He can't do it again, can he?

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He's a machine, man. He's still He was still top Well, I'd say I'd argue he was potentially top 10 last year still.

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very, you know, very easily still a top 10 player last year. It's crazy. He's 41.

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It's just nuts, isn't it?

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He puts us all to shame. He Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.

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He puts us all He's not that much. Yeah.

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I'm not that much older than him, but I can barely walk around anymore. It's It's insane what this guy's doing. All right, that's enough about LeBron James

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and his potential landing spots. You want to talk about the Grizzlies roster?

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Let's do that for five minutes and then we can probably tie this bad boy off.

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Man, look, it was a it was it was a nice and neat one. They they basically, you know, obviously move off Jar, move off of the

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Jar era. Um, that's the last piece of that playoff running Grizzlies team and they go off and they go pick up this

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is basically the rebuild era. Um, so now they've got, you know, uh, this is a full-blown rebuild. It's going to be ugly this year. I I don't know how

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much. Yeah, this is going to be a tough one to watch um in Memphis this year. But, you know, they go off and they get the third round

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pick in in Cam Booza. Uh who was pretty much of the draft most ready like of the

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most of the NBA draft, the most ready player like ready to go, can kind of do every he can do everything. He does everything well, you know.

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I watched no college so I'm taking your word for this man. Yeah.

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You know, he did everything well. Like he was just steady. He wasn't like he didn't have the highest roof like he didn't have the highest ceiling of the draft. Yeah.

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But he definitely he's definitely one of those kind of players who he brings he brings the base up for for Grizzlies who desperately need

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you know some some form of base really because they have no foundation to build off right now. Um so they got they got

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Camboozer to help be their new superstar. Um they've also got, you know, one of that def, you know, your

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defensive um boy in coward um who was who had a great season last year. Um just to cut you off,

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he's already already the early betting favorite to win rookie of the year at plus 240.

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He's steady. Like I said, he just kind of gets he does makes sense.

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He's on a roster that's got so much opportunity to make shots and create shots. And if he's coming in as the most NBA ready

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guy, it's almost the ball's going to be in his hands straight away. Like it's not it's not a question of when he's ready for it. The

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the question it will be welcome to the Grizzlies. Here's the rock and just just take it, you know.

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Man, I think they're going to have trouble getting the ball up the court and starting offense. Like Cedric Cow is not a great ball handler. Nope.

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Scotty Pippen Jr. is a okay point guard.

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He's not fantastic. I think Ty Jerome is the safest guy so far I've spoken about.

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I think Jaylen Wells, they're going to want to create offense with him, but he is going to struggle with consistency and turning the ball over. Like I I like

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Jaylen Wells, but he is not a steady hand by any metric at all.

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Yep. And then they've also added in Isaiah Stewart. Beef Stew joins the fry.

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What was that with Beef Stew leaving the Pistons? What did you think about that?

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Look, I think I think they would they I mean like they they they they're not they kind of what they lowballed Duran

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so we don't know where Duran's landing yet. Um I think this was kind of like the Detroit Pistons going like you guys

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stank up the joint and you know these are these are going to be our scapegoats for last year and they're gonna you know

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Isaiah Stewart and Duran are the ones that are going to get you know going to get the axe for their disappointment.

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You know, like I hope that's I hope that's not the case. I think that wasn't the cause of their season ending.

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Well, like was it was be like like Duran just had a lackluster finals. Just absolutely lackluster finals.

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Yeah, sure. But [clears throat] that's was just a backup. Like he he you can't really blame him. He just kind of comes in and gets the job done, right? He

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didn't do anything crazy either in this playoff. I was waiting for it, but nothing nothing insane.

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I just think he's just a explosion waiting to happen. He's just like a powder keg waiting to explode that guy.

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I'm not surprised they traded him and like moved him away. I We've quickly segueed onto the Pistons. So, they actually picked up Isaiah Joe from

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Oklahoma City Thunder for literally nothing. Just a pair of seconds. Yeah, I think this is actually something you almost have to keep an eye on because

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that Thunder team is so stacked, they actually need to give away good young players just to make room for the next first round draft pick that's coming in.

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So, I think Iso Joe is going to be awesome on that team and that's exactly what that Pistons team needs. Like another good young guard that can defend

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and can shoot and so like that to me is just an absolute home run for the Pistons and that's what I think they just need to keep doing. They just need

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to keep building this roster up. And I don't think um making Jiren the scapegoat is going to fix their problems.

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They They kind of needed I was They need more talent.

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Yeah, I was surprised. I guess they just didn't want to pay him more. I don't know what the price was.

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Like you just never know what the negotiating price was. Like was Duran asking for the max? And they were like, "No, you're definitely not worth the max." You know, like

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actually I don't disagree with that. But I think what my point is though is like you just rewind back 12 months. If you had have said, "Oh, the Pistons were the

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the best team in the Eastern Conference in the regular season." You would have said, "Oh, that's fantastic." Like, what? You know, congratulations. What a great year. But somehow it's actually

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gone, "Oh, no, that now that's not good enough.

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We're going to during the scapegoat." And it's Yeah, they kind of folded it up, right?

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They kind of like, "Oh, let's just pack up our toys and, you know, ship you guys off and we're done with this run." Like, they had I don't know.

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You know, I was I was Look, I was surprised. I was very surprised that Duran isn't sticking like you know that that deal fell apart and they couldn't

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make it happen. Um look we'll we'll wait and see but like Detroit was definitely one of the uh one of one of the surprise

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rises last year. Um it just so happened that in the finals they got exposed like it just very you know it was just very obvious they

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struggled to score. And so like by adding Isaiah Joe who is a steady scorer, good shooter, someone that Kade

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can pass to on the wings and you know now you're starting to build around Cade in a really smart way.

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So he was basically asking for a max and they're offering him 30 million bucks a year. I suppose that is a big difference in in cash, isn't it?

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Yeah. [snorts] I mean look like if you can pay him 30, fine. I I look that's reasonable, right, for what he did. He was he was a regular season

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great player. Like he was 20 and 10 guaranteed and then he got to the finals and he forgot how to rebound and he forgot how to score.

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Okay, fine. I'm changing my mind on this. I'm with the Pistons on this one.

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Yeah, you can't pay that guy the max, can you? That's just gonna be mediocre.

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Yeah, you know, you can't give him the max after that. Like if he if he could just show that he could like like Rudy Gobear go on the court, play defense and be a

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defensive monster, fine. Okay, you might have a case for for for your max, right? But he did neither.

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He He didn't do either. Like I was just like at least score. Don't play defense, fine. Just score. Just give us 20 points. Give us, you know, but he

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couldn't do it. So, um, yeah. So, I look, I I will wait on the Grizzlies, but yeah, they're just in full rebuild.

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Absolute full rebuild.

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Is there anyone here that you're looking to buy that you think might be worth picking up, or is this to stay away from your perspective?

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I didn't mind Zach Edi. Um, I didn't mind Zach Edy. And like I look, if if I was to dabble in in in prospecting, um,

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oh my god, I wouldn't I wouldn't do Cam Camboozer. like you know my thoughts on on draft players and paying the premium for the rookie years like Camboozer's

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cards are going to be high straight off the bat. Um along with the bans along with you know along with everybody else

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um but you know if I was to prospect a little bit on somebody fun you know Zack Edy um you know would be a pretty fun

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guy to collect. He was a you know he was a fun he was a fun watch. I've got a hot take. Fire away.

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I think I think Camboozer is going to be this year's conapple.

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Like like surprise surprise superstar or so look at look at what happened to Canop this year.

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Yeah. So his prices are going to shoot up hard and then look at this up to 1,800 and then all the way down.

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There's I think in the world of NBA cards how people love that sort of hot prospect if he gets off to a really strong start.

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Um and then reality hits as the season goes on. I think a lot of the luster and the shine will come off that card and you'll see another conuple. Like he's gone from hideously overpriced.

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He's actually he's actually back up again, but he was down to the 400s for a while. Well, he's he's back up because they've decided that they're going to

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move off LaMelo Ball and hand the keys to the kingdom to Con.

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I think there is some truth to that, but I think that 400's too low for this kid.

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I I think that it went down too far. And yeah, and actually I feel like 700 is probably a little bit too high for my

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liking. Like for me, 400 is is fantastic. And this is this is a Russell special where I've I've talked about it, but then not actually executed it. So, um, yeah, that's that's my hot take.

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I think with Cam is the exact same thing and we we've I've talked about it before. You've talked about it before.

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In the rookie year, these lottery players, especially the top three will shoot up hard and their values will

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shoot up hard and then after their rookie year, watch them plummet. So if you are to sell these guys in any year,

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like if you join in any breaks and you hit these guys, sell in the peak, which is pretty much in their rookie year, you know,

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immediately after they start getting some good stats, you know, you can hold them for a little bit and see how well they perform for the year. The moment

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they start putting in a row of good games like Conan did and, you know, and Cooper Flag did, like look to sell.

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But also too, just with the Zack Edy part, are you worried that he's a 7 foot4 guy?

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I think I'm just I think I just like big dudes. I think like I mean like my shack collection is example to that. I'm just like everyone's like don't collect

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centers, you know? Like sinners are a horrible investment [laughter] and like had I not listen had I listen not listened to that I probably would

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have collected Jokic and I probably would be doing a lot better because there was a moment where Jokic was dirt cheap. Absolutely dirt cheap.

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Like no one was touching him and now now he's in the thousands.

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Yeah. It's like the Giannis train. It's it's it's departed the station. Yeah. All right man. What do you got for me?

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Final thoughts. Uh, look, final thoughts. I mean, you've also got um, look, hot take though. I think like OKC

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managed to pick up a pretty fun little draft pick in that Ad Mara kid. Uh, 7 foot three uh, out of Michigan. Uh, Michigan State.

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So, he did win a chip with Michigan State this year with the NCAA. Um, but yeah, Adara with the 12th pick. Uh he

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that's a sneaky that's a sneaky WBY counterpick and there was a lot of them this year. Um a lot of teams picked up big sevenfooters like seven foot threes.

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I saw the combine assessment of this kid. He comped out the same as Camboozer in terms of uh speed and athleticism.

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Yes. Yeah.

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And he's he's freaky. He's like look he's got a really good wingspan. I think they said his wingspan is 9 foot one in.

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That's that's wild. Um he's 7 foot three, really good defensive instincts, really great court vision. Um if you go back

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and look at his like his videos, um he's got some ridiculous passes this year and yeah, he just played really well. Um he

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helped lead Michigan to a to a to a chip and he will complement the Oklahoma City Thunder quite well behind Hartinstein.

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Um they'll give him some minutes to grow in the background um and give him the rookie season to kind of get a bit bigger and then just trot them out

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whenever they need someone to to stand in front of WBY.

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Yeah, they're so deep now. That's what they can do, isn't it? Just sort of alter their rotation depending on who they're playing against there. Yep. It just sucks.

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And give and give Chad a bit of a break, you know? Like just go, "Hey Chat, go go go be a forward. Just go to the go be power forward. put a Day Mara in the center spot, put him in front of Wemby.

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Um take some take some grief off of Cet because Chad, you could see he was greatly undized. Um he just struggled

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against WBY. So hopefully if a day can grow into that role of Wember and that's his only job, just get on the court and be a WBY stopper. Um that'd be fun.

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Yeah. No, good way to finish out the show, man. Thank you so much again for coming on. It's fantastic having a chat

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with you. Drop your Instagram again too, man. If just in case people don't know who you are, you find me at Shak Fu32.

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Um, just just posting up my new Shacks.

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Look, I've I've been a bit more quiet of this year because I've just been focusing on condensing and growing the collection into bigger pieces. But this

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is what happens when you when you start to go into, I guess, side quest of the side quest now. like I'm really chasing unicorns and and unicorns obviously don't show up every day.

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It's awesome, man. Again, thank you so much everyone out there. Thank you so much for tuning in and listening. Really appreciate it. Take care of yourselves and we will catch you for the next one.