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Energy Healing and Spiritual Growth: Karen Foote's Journey with Rebalance Reiki and Moon Magic
Discover the secrets of energy healing and spiritual growth with our special guest, Karen Foote, the founder of Rebalance Reiki and Massage. Karen takes us on a fascinating journey from her early start in the healing arts at age 16 to the creation of Moon Magic in Hillsdale, New Jersey, a sanctuary born out of the COVID-19 pandemic. Through her story, you'll learn how personal challenges shaped her path and inspired her to build a community focused on intuitive healing and the power of Reiki.
Unlock the mysteries of your own energy centers as we explore the vital connection between chakras and physical well-being. Karen shares her profound insights into how blocked chakras can lead to physical ailments, and how practices like Reiki can restore balance and promote deep relaxation. For those aspiring to become healers themselves, Karen provides valuable advice on the training and certification process, emphasizing the importance of intuition and trust in one's healing journey.
Celebrate the transformative power of spiritual practices in personal relationships and self-discovery. Karen's experiences with sound healing, mindfulness, and navigating different spiritual beliefs within her marriage offer a reassuring message of growth and harmony. With a wide array of services and events at Moon Magic, from sound healings to moon circles, Karen is dedicated to supporting others on their spiritual paths. Tune in to hear about her unique approach to healing and her vision for a nurturing, spiritually vibrant community.
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All right, what's up everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Greetings from the Garden State, powered by the New Jersey Lottery. We're in Hillsdale, New Jersey, today at Moon Magic with Karen Foote. Karen, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. Absolutely Thank you for having me. So we just did a little Reiki, sound healing stuff and it's not my first time doing it. The sound healing was my first time doing that, but I've done Reiki before and it was cool. I had a good time. So thank you for showing me what you do here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it helps to receive it, to understand it. Yeah, for sure. When you told me that it might feel like I'm drugged after, I was like a little bit hesitant, but then I was like you know what, let's just go for it.
Speaker 1:You know, see what happens. I know I was afraid I didn't want you to be too relaxed, that you couldn't operate. Yeah, just like, like you know, slumped over my chair but, um, this is a cool space, like you talked about, uh, off mic when I first got here, how there's just a lot of like visual stuff in here and that it can be like you get a lot of things here like little. There's rocks, there's crystals, there's tinctures over there, there's all sorts of stuff. So let's talk about what Moon Magic is first, as kind of like 30,000 foot view, and then we'll kind of get into the more nitty gritty stories as we progress.
Speaker 2:Sure, well, moon Magic kind of came to be four years ago, but my business has been in existence for nearly 10. Okay, so I was operating out of a small office space a few for I guess like six, eight years or something, in West Westwood, and with COVID I got redirected, yeah, and I just knew I wanted a bigger space so I could have gatherings and sound healing. And where I was my space was like a bedroom, a tiny bedroom, so there was only room for one bowl yeah and um with the redirection of 2020, I found this space.
Speaker 2:it was perfect. There's more airflow. That's really what it was kind of concerning to be in a small space before. But then it had its own entity. It had to be Moon Magic. It couldn't be. My regular business name is Rebalance Reiki and Massage, but Moon Magic had to be Moon Magic and I realized in retrospect that it was the Divine Feminine working through me and kind of redirecting my path and my community. So that's kind of how it started. So I built it all out in November of 2020, which was kind of crazy to be opening a new space, sure.
Speaker 1:To be like let's start a new thing.
Speaker 2:And in my old space I was in a third floor like attic bedroom kind of a building, and this is at a train station and at a traffic light so it's forcing public eyes on me. Yeah right. So I said I guess the world is ready for my work, because usually it's like clandestine, you know, like it's not public work.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah, so that's what happened. No, that's cool. And so you said Rebalance is the business name, rebalance with Reiki and massage, which started 10 years ago. But what got you into that? Because there's a lot of things that you do here. So there's the Reiki, the sound, healing. What else? What else? Massage?
Speaker 2:Massage, and then I host classes and workshops to kind of educate people about their intuitive abilities and their natural healing abilities. So people who identify as lightworkers or healers are drawn to this space, whether they knew those terms before or not. It's just a drawing to want to help humanity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's who, my people are Sure, that's good people to be around. So, yeah, what prompted you to start? When you start 10 years ago with Rebalance, what prompts you to do that? And did you have? I mean, I would imagine you'd not just be like, hey, I'm just going to start this business. There must have been some groundwork laid, like you tried at one time. Or take me through that.
Speaker 2:It's a whole story. I'm 46. When I was 16, I started massaging people. I didn't know it was a career until I was halfway through college, and then I had to finish college before I went to massage school, according to my parents, which was fine. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so I went to massage school in the year 2000. And then two years later my mom got sick with an autoimmune disease and massage just wasn't cutting it in helping her. So I got guided to take craniosacral therapy, which is another modality that has to do with like very quiet work. So that opened up my intuition louder to me, so that's kind of what steered me in the more energy direction. So that was like 2003. And then I met my friend who became my teacher a few years later in that class. Then I had kids, so I was a mom for a bit, but I'm still a mom. That didn't go away but like. So they took my focus. But somewhere around the time my youngest was two, my oldest was four I had like a spiritual awakening and a calling to like do something bigger. And I just didn't know what and I just knew there was something more for me, not covered by just massage. And that's when, um, I learned about a class that my teacher who I met in craniosacral was offering. Yeah, and that is called theta healing and that has to do with like identifying limiting beliefs and psychic development to figure out where they come from. Okay, so it could be past lives, it could be this life, it could be ancestral. So that really blew me wide open. And then, um, and that was in 2000 and at the end of 2008.
Speaker 2:And then, by well, 2010 is when I took Reiki, because I was like this work is so esoteric and kind of weird for the regular world Sure, how am I supposed to bring it to my massage clients? Because I still had some clients that came to my house when my kids were little. Like, how do I bridge that gap? I'm like I guess I should learn Reiki, because people told me I was channeling energy when I was doing massage and I was like, okay, but I didn't know or care about Reiki when I first was in that world. So then I figured, well, people know the word Reiki, so I'll take Reiki. And I took Reiki in 2010 and that also changed my life dramatically. And then within a few years, I was teaching it. So that's the long story. So I was doing massage in 2000, but professionally my own business. In 2002, I opened up my first massage space. But soon after I had my oldest, in 2004, and I was like I don't want to run a business and be a mom.
Speaker 2:Sure so I just gave it up. Yeah. But so I've been doing my business all along. You know, I've always been doing massage and body work, and then the healing energy stuff kind of trickled in and then came full blast. So yeah, so that's a long story. So, and I moved to Westwood in 2015 and that's when it opened up, Rebound, ok.
Speaker 1:So and then with so you mentioned Reiki and how people know Reiki, but I do think that a lot of people know the term like they've heard it. They don't really know what it is. So can we talk about what it is? Sure?
Speaker 2:Reiki is energy healing and it kind of brings the body back into balance. I always liken it to a car wash, so it's like what massages to the body. Reiki is to your energy field, so I just kind of clear out the cobwebs and cut away the calluses and blast you with light and leave you feeling lighter and brighter and clearer. And I also have the ability to read the energy in the body. So not I don't know that all Reiki is that necessarily, but it can lead to that easily, so I can read the energy in the body. But so Reiki is just energy healing and I just call it like love, light and prayer, or like love, prayer and intention, you know, like that kind of energy is clearing out the muck. So you could say it's like a spiritual energy clearing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you also mentioned chakras, right, and that's part of Reiki. We mentioned that when we did our little session there. Can you tell me what those are like, what the chakras are, and then like how those affect different parts of your well-being, I guess?
Speaker 2:They're energy centers in our body, so we just filter energy through our physical body and there's some major points that we do that in and that those are the chakras. The seven major chakras are like, if you see, yoga kind of logos where they have the meditating position person with the colors of the rainbow going up the middle. That's the chakras. So the root chakra is at the base of the spine. That's to do with, like our foundation, our stability, um, like our morning routines, like the things that kind of keep us grounded. And then there's a whole. You know you can dive in for hours about every chakra, but the sacral chakra is orange and that's at the like, the womb area in women between the belly button and the pubic bone, and that's the creative center and also relationships.
Speaker 2:The solar plexus is yellow and that's our power center, our sense of self, our self-esteem, our confidence, and they all line up with the endocrine system too. So they're physiologically corresponding to things in the body that make sense Onto the heart is compassion, love, forgiveness, anger, resentment. The solar plexus can also house worry. The throat is communication, expression and boundaries, boundaries, and that's like a pale blue. The heart is green. The third eye is like a dark blue, purpley, like an indigo, and that's our intuition, but it could also be our analytical ability. Yeah, and the crown is our connection to divinity or spirituality or lack thereof, and I see it, and I see it in metaphorical imagery. So I will see people who don't believe with like locks and chains, and I'll see people who are very connected as like a beam of light. Okay, so I see that. So how do they?
Speaker 1:basically, as long as the energy is moving, we're healthy, but if we're not, then things can happen energetically and then physically yeah like all physical ailments have like an energetic component and emotional component sure, yeah, because I think like that's interesting, because you talked about the endocrine system before, um, and then just kind of like physical ailments from you know.
Speaker 1:I mean, like I feel like most people at some point, when they're like super stressed about something, like it affects them physically you know, and I think that this is kind of almost in that same vein to a degree, um, because I think that like you know people you said earlier that people that don't get it or it just kind of, like you said, the normal world, um, but like I think that is a good way to kind of talk about it in a sense that like, if people are just like Reiki, but just like knowing what the connection is actual to your physical and like the similarities or the connections there I think is an important distinction to make, because there is a connection between both, like the spiritual energy stuff that your, that your body's dealing with, and then what the physical components of that are as well, right, yeah, yeah, and the thing is some people get freaked out by the spiritual talk.
Speaker 2:So I mean, usually the people that aren't freaked out are my people. But, like, all people are welcome and as long as you have an open mind enough to want to like experiment and relax, I'm happy to work with you and I don't have to read people if they don't want me to. So I try to make it comfortable for people, because it can be invasive to get a reading when you're not expecting it, so I do it only with permission. But yeah, there there is, there's so much, there's so many rabbit holes to go into. But to keep it to just like a physical, if you don't, if you're not comfortable going that deep or you don't believe in that stuff, it's just physically relaxing and super restorative and when you get reiki a lot of times you have really good sleep that night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so like in that deep sleep state, yeah, fingers crossed, you can really recover and like make a lot of progress right like your physical health.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, can we talk a little bit about what goes into uh training or learning?
Speaker 2:how to be. There's no um like official, anything which can lead to the quackery status. Sure you know?
Speaker 2:yeah um, to be certified in reiki it just requires that you attend a reiki master's class and they and some people it runs the gamut. Some people are very regimented and they run it for weeks or days and days. Other people it's like for me personally I host a class from 11 to 4 on a Sunday for Reiki 1 and then you're Reiki 1 certified. The state of New Jersey will take your tax money for that work, but they don't otherwise care. Or, you know, dissect. I'm also a massage therapist so I have to do my certification and my CEUs. There's none of that for Reiki. So you know my husband is a skeptic, so I could always hear his response to things you know like, okay, that makes me certified, because I just went to someone's house for five hours.
Speaker 2:So I get it in that skepticism for sure, and you would want to do your homework and feel and trust out who you lend your body to, to get your energy balanced, because some people there are create, I mean, every, every, um, every type of job has people who are scammers, yeah, who are bullshitters, whatever right. So you just gotta, you gotta yeah, yeah, or yeah, just take your money, or there's even terrible psychic people that do you know, know manipulative tactics, like. So you don't just go to anybody and you really got to tune in and trust yourself. So I like to empower people with tuning in and feeling what truth feels like in their body as a big, just a life tool.
Speaker 2:Yeah definitely Because we dismiss our intuition. We're in a culture where we're so logic driven that we dismiss the little hints and whispers of our intuition. But if you give them credit and let them speak first, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, Can we also talk a little bit about kind of going off that you know like the training end of it, but also kind of connecting back to an edge you gave earlier about? You know, like the divine thing we see like locks and chains or like a beam of light as examples, like the divine thing we see like locks and chains or like a beam of light as examples, when did you realize that, like you could see the shock?
Speaker 2:see those, yeah it happened in 2011. My mom, as I mentioned, she had an autoimmune disease that bubbled up just like two months after my wedding, which was really a drag because I was 100 miles away and I couldn't do a lot for her. Yeah, she passed away six years ago, but she lived for her grandchildren, I'm sure of it. So she was in a wheelchair and compromised from 2002 to 2018. And one of the times that she got sick from a complication from her disease, she ended up in a rehab facility and her personality changed a little bit and she was a little bit more demanding, which I was, I found, off-putting, so she was like work-putting, so she was like work on me and I was like, okay, and I was like I didn't want to be like angrily, giving her love and light so.
Speaker 2:I was like, okay, I have to give myself a job, let me just see if I could see the chakras. And I just experimented with looking in my mind's eye, with my eyes closed, my hands were on her shoulders and I looked down at her root chakra and I knew where their colors were and I knew their placements and I didn't even know all their names, but I kind of knew where they were, yeah. So I looked at her root chakra and it was bouncing like a in the triangular formation, like a rubber ball, like that, and I was like I don't even know what normal is, but clearly that's not healthy, yeah. And then when I got to her solar plexus, it was like out to here and it was a really pale yellow and I was like, again, I don't know what I'm looking at, but this is clearly malfunctioning or not healthy or whatever. So I went home and did the research of what I just saw and everything lined up with my mom.
Speaker 2:My mom had diabetes, which is this endocrine gland, like I always forget the name of the gland, um, and she had a lot of fear and she had no control, she was paralyzed, she was, she was in a wheelchair. So you know that made sense. And grounding like the first thing you read about how to ground is put your feet in the grass. My mom was in Velcro sneakers, you know in 2002, and wasn't on her feet on the earth since she was disabled. So like it made total sense and there's other things you can do to help ground your energy. But she didn't have those tools and you know that awareness but it was. That was eye opening for me. So then I just started experimenting with all my massage clients. Do you mind if I peek in and see if I can see things? Yeah, so it just kind of came on suddenly and I know, not anybody, not everybody, can just decide to look and see things, but it worked for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's interesting. And so then, have you ever been kind of like uh? Because the first time that I got uh, had reiki or did reiki, I guess received reiki, yeah, um, the the person that did it for me gave it to me, I guess. If I'm receiving it, um, she said that it was like uh, there was like one part of my energy, that kind of just like knocked her back almost, and I forget which one it was, and I'm not to like speak out of turn, but right, um, as that ever happened, where you're just kind of like peeking in, you're just like whoa, yeah, this is intense usually I work on people who are pretty aware, yeah, and like, have a self-care practice and are spiritually aligned and in tune.
Speaker 2:but occasionally you get some, you know some new person that has no experience or whatever. But, um, I worked on a lady somewhere in the last like two years where, as I got to because I go to the feet when I tune in, like not that doesn't have to be anyone's rule, but mine but I felt like I had to put on, like rubber gloves, and if you know who framed Roger Rabbit when he puts on those big gloves because he doesn't want to. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It reminded me of that and I was like, oh, like, I'm like, why am I being guided to put on gloves? You?
Speaker 2:know, and everything about her was just like like a little bit toxic, sure. So yeah, it can be, yeah it can be, and like I remember looking um at her heart and then it looked like there was. It was just a lot of, I think, unresolved things, yeah, you know. So yeah, I get kind of crazy, crazy imagery. That's why I created my podcast, because I like to share the stories, because it's like sometimes it comes in like a dream, so just as quick as a dream comes and goes like that whole story can be gone.
Speaker 2:So if I don't write it down, I lose it. So I try to write down the most noteworthy experiences and then I'll pop them in a podcast episode somewhere down the line.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about the podcast, so what's it called, and we already kind of gave it a little bit of what you talk about, um, but let's just kind of give it to people that are watching or listening I wasn't trying to plug it sure? No, we love shameless plugs.
Speaker 2:That's why we're here, you know but it's called the spiritual seekers podcast. I have a thing for alliteration, rebalance, reiki, magic, um, but the spiritual seekers podcast and, uh, I just love to share those stories. And then, because I have a podcast and people solicit me to be on the show, so, and then I also talk to friends, so I have different interviews with interesting people yeah that are related in that spiritual spectrum, but it's just a place to, to share, like to shoot the spiritual shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's not what I say. Like my dad's a deacon in the catholic church, so he was afraid for my soul and wanted me to go to get Eucharist every week. Sure, and my husband's a skeptic atheist who thinks all of it's nonsense. So I'm like, hey, I have an interesting life, you know. Yeah, and my oldest is a trans girl, you know. So it's just like there's lots of cool stories to share. Yeah, and my youngest is a cis boy, right. Like I'm always like, if I can be married to a skeptic atheist, like I can handle any level.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, like how does that work, you know?
Speaker 1:it didn't work well, yeah, I would imagine not Cause I feel like you know a lot of people that do, especially in an entrepreneurial space, like it's very difficult and I know this to do it by yourself, like you need someone, at least one person kind of there being supportive of what you're doing and believe in you and you know your process or whatever, and maybe it's a belief in you personally not necessarily that was the crux, that was the hard part in the beginning, cause I thought surely you'll believe me.
Speaker 2:Coming out of my mouth, my mouth, and he's like why should I believe you? Just because it's you? Yeah, and I was like dude. So that was, that was terrible. Yeah, that was not easy. Those were hard years.
Speaker 2:So I came, you know, spiritually online in like 2008, 2009 and, and, and he went in the other direction and then we would each like present articles to each other to prove the other one wrong. We got in bad, explosive fights, but I had two babies. I couldn't just flee. If we were dating I probably would have broken up, but we worked through it and he's supportive of me, for me, he's supportive of my business. He helped carry heavy things and hang the curtains and you know he's a wonderful, wonderful guy. I love him tremendously. So it's fine. But it's just it's kind of humorous. So because of my beliefs, I know that we came in kind of like choosing our life path. So in all of those times of upset I'd be like I picked him. I picked him like this is for our greater good for some reason I don't understand why, but it's fine. So like that kind of got me through like the difficult years.
Speaker 1:But yeah, but he's my, he's a big champion, for sure which is great, you know, and I think that's another interesting thing too, because and not that he's, you know now, like all, he's not, yeah, he's coming in and I'm getting receiving he's, he receives my, he received my energy work without realizing it, probably, probably for sure.
Speaker 2:But yeah, he's not like, give me a reading.
Speaker 1:Sure, yeah, I'm feeling a little, my chakras are a little blocked up. I don't think that he's doing that. But that is, I think, also kind of an interesting thing too, because you talk about how you do classes here and certain people, in a sense, are kind of attracted to this space Right, whereas someone, maybe even like your husband, if he didn't know you or met you or whatever, he would never come here. You know what I mean. So, um, to me, like, it's an interesting community of people that you have like kind of almost not initially, but you build that trust of that community, um, and then trying to get outside of that. So can you take me through, kind of like the people that are, you know whether they're customers or whether they're. You know people that come here that are part of the take the classes. That's got to be pretty uplifting, you know. And then it kind of goes beyond that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it's great, I'll do moon circles and sound healings. Those are like the most.
Speaker 2:I mean they're all community, community but like those are the most like like loving, supporting uh environments because of the, the nature of the event yeah but I also will teach people, like about their psychic abilities or how to read tarot or you know stuff like that, like with I had guest teachers for some, some topics, but um, I don't know, I don't know if I I don't even remember what your question was actually uh, we were talking about, like, the community of people that are here to support you, and it spreads out.
Speaker 2:So then I'll end up working on someone's mom. I like I'm always so touched when people send me their mothers or their you know family members, their friends, their husbands. Whenever a husband comes in I'm always like, hey, you okay being here, like I don't have to do it all. But you know, percentage-wise it's probably like 95% women come here and like 5% men.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because there's more men.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, but I'm trying to like. I just had like this I took a class last week called Somatic Mindfulness and in the class I was like asking the teachers like, well, what about psychic development and what about energy protection? Do you guys teach that too? And they're like, hmm, and because they're more in that, in that left, is it the left brain, right, is that left brain or is it the right brain is more analytical, but they're not in that spiritual edge as much as me. So they were a little bit uncomfortable with it.
Speaker 2:And I was surprised because I'm like, when you're so still and quiet with the body, so much stuff comes to the surface. So then I was saying to my husband afterwards like this mindfulness like term is almost like, so generic. And he's like, but it's, it's literal, it's people being mindful. So he was arguing that it was a good thing, Cause I was like almost like, oh, really Like. I feel like it's almost like cutting short what the experience could be. Sure, but for people who are coming at it from a doing, doing, doing, doing mindfulness is like life-changing A hundred percent.
Speaker 2:So I didn't.
Speaker 1:You're on the answer wheel so much that you miss out on the stuff that's happening around you.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I've been like in that presence and in that mindfulness for so long that I just it blends into the spirituality and all that. And he's like you're going to freak people out if you start saying spiritual things. It was kind of cool that we kind of came to an like a middle ground talking about it. So I actually reached out to someone local and asked if I could host a mindfulness and relaxation something or other at their at their place, because I'm like I do think the world needs it and I don't want to scare people away by talking about angels and ascended masters, yeah, yeah, even though that's my favorite thing, you know. But if I could reach more people by being more generic, right and and and teaching people to like breathe, yeah and be present, then I guess that's like you. That's another way to reach the community that doesn't come into Moon Matters Because it's approachable.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have a witch on my door.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:You know, use the word witch like it's a bad thing. It's actually not. It's just a woman in her power. Yeah, so I'm always trying to educate people. But yeah, I can dial it back and be more neutral and just talk about mindfulness. Sure, that's going to help people.
Speaker 1:And then you, then you find people that are open to it, and then you can, you know, add things Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if there's a curiosity and a question, I'm happy to answer it and dive in. But it's going to be, it's a trick. It's going to be tricky for me to like go back and be more neutral. Yeah. Yeah. To just spread that awareness of like relaxing is good for our bodies.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, can we talk about the sound healing stuff too? Sure, because that was pretty trippy to be like, because I told you that when I heard it, like I knew that these are bowls. Yeah Right, so the bowls were on one side of the room If you're watching, they're over here, but I was sitting laying over there and it was like I could hear it coming from, like down by my seat and over on my left and you know places where I knew it wasn't coming from. And even with the bells which you did basically like right over the top of my head, I feel like even that was like coming from different spots. Can you tell me what sound healing kind of is and then maybe why I had that experience? Does that happen? I?
Speaker 2:could do my best. Yeah, Usually that's very common to feel like you were over by my feet, weren't you? I'm like nope. Yeah. So yeah, I mean especially in this space, because that's only 400 square feet, so the sound bounces off the walls. So I think that's what creates that feeling of like not knowing where the sound is coming from. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:So I think, yeah, in a bigger space it might get lost, um, but how it works it's like vibrational healing. So reiki is vibrational healing, crystals are vibrational healing. Even aromatherapy is vibrational healing, because there's something about when the oils interact with our skin it does change our vibration.
Speaker 2:It's something I didn't even know was real until I experienced yeah so sound healing is another form of vibrational healing and just the way like the Reiki. If you could picture how the sound waves come through. They're just breaking up blocked energy. So that's why it can be a real visceral experience and you feel better after experiencing it. And it's a whole different experience when it's in your ears on a recording versus being present with the sound waves, because they go through your whole body, not just in your ears.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Interesting, so but yeah, I don't know that I can explain it. Yeah, yeah, I just would like good, you know about it, but like there's a thing called semantics, like C, y, M, a, t, I, c, s, and that's like when sand is on like a drum and they like or they do music and like it takes to the shapes.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen that the guy does a violin bow on it and it turns into a star, yeah. It's wild, I know yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's sacred geometry. So that's how sound affects our body, yeah, and they illustrate it on sand, they illustrate it on water when they do the sound healing in the somatic experiments. So that's what's kind of happening to us on like a cellular level or in our blood or whatever. So sometimes after receiving, when I did the sound healing meditations, it's like an hour and people are just laying on yoga mats. It's like a big sleepover like bolsters, pillows, blankets.
Speaker 2:But I'll say to people, like in the next, like couple hours, you almost feel like you're effervescent, like you almost feel like you're effervescent, like you almost feel like you're tingling still, because it's like the energy has been shifted in your body. Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Wow, um, so I also have a question, and I don't know if this is, uh like a good question, but I'm going to try, sure.
Speaker 1:So, like I think one of the things that sometimes, when people are kind of like skeptical of certain things, is like, especially when people do like, oh, chiropractory, chiropractic, chiropractic Thank you, I speak for a living or like acupuncture and like different things like that, like they obviously have benefits, like I've done them. I well, I personally feel like there's a benefit. Yeah, the people that I think are really good at it is are the ones that kind of take you like OK, this is what we did today. This is how you can improve so that the next time you, you know, receive it better. Um, can you take me through maybe, if there is a way, if people aren't good, they come for their first ever reiki session, or they come for their first ever sound healing, or whatever the case is how the growth, what the growth looks like, or what if there is like some sort of growth plan for the next one, so that you're able to be more in tune, or is it more of just like a practice?
Speaker 2:I don't give subscribed recommendations to people because I don't like that kind of sale.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:So, even though I'm sure it would be beneficial for my business and for the people, I just don't feel comfortable being like I need to see you twice a week for the next, blah, blah, blah. I don't like to operate that way just because I don't like being pitched that, oh, of course. But like um, I have seen progress in my clients who are repeat people and I tell people it's time to come back. When you're edgy, when you're on your own nerves, when you're short tempered, you're overdue at that point actually, and then so it's best to people book in advance, so that way it's like light at the end of the tunnel waiting for them. Because when you are in your head and cranky and messed up and you can't get an appointment for three weeks, it sucks.
Speaker 2:So you know, sound healings can hold you over between Reiki sessions. It'll do a similar job. But I have seen clients, like you know, who had very suppressed throat chakras where they were like swallowing their truth or holding it down and being polite and keeping it together to to save face or whatever, and then stepping into their power and being like, no, you know yeah so I have seen the progress of clients, personalities, where they step into their power right and they, you know, anchor into their natural gifts.
Speaker 2:So I for sure have seen a progress, but I don't subscribe, you know.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, I think that that was more my question, kind of like seeing seeing the progression and for sure have seen a progress, but I don't subscribe you know, oh yeah, yeah I think that that's that was more of my question kind of like seeing, seeing the progression and you know, so that way, like it's not always starting from zero, kind of thing. You know it's like all right, well, we've made progress after the last one, you know, whatever that was Right. And then I feel like then the person that's receiving it does have a like not know what to expect, because I feel like you don't really know. When you know, you're kind of like in the shit, so to speak, um, but then to kind of, you know, be more prepared to receive it when they're actually here.
Speaker 2:I guess, yeah, like, yeah, it's it. It's definitely like weird for the first five minutes of being a new person on the table, because it's vulnerable. You're just laying there like giving you. You know, and I've had times where I've been like I'm so like humbled by people's trust in me. You know like it. I don't take it for granted, but, um, but usually after five minutes the people relax so fast it doesn't matter, you know. So the next time they come in, they just like hop on the table. Some people like hop on the table so fast.
Speaker 2:I'm like hang on a second, let me cause they're like I need to get it, you know they just want their you know to be have all of the stuff like sloughed off of them, right, and that you, you leave with the same problems that you arrived with, but you just don't care as much about them for some reason.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, it's, uh, it's definitely transformative. And when you know that that's what you're walking into like, there's like no trepidation. People just jump right on the table and are, you know, willing to see what happens next. And sometimes sessions can be physical, like same with the sound. Healing could be a physical experience, but your mind is awake, and then the opposite of that or a little bit of both. I have one of my few male clients. He's like it always surprises me that every time it happens, but it does. He's like he just goes somewhere else and he's like immediately twitching and dreaming and he's just gone. And I remember being like one time, like what did you notice? And he's like I would think I was hanging out with my ancestors. I'm like that's amazing. Yeah, so you know, every time can be a magical experience, whether it's a similar one or a different yeah, it's a kind of magical.
Speaker 2:You just feel like, uh, tingly and floaty and and clear-headed once you get off the the the drunk feeling. Right then you have clarity yeah, um, okay.
Speaker 1:So then we talked about the reiki stuff, we talked about chakras, we talked about all that kind of stuff too. At the end of mine you talked about an animal, so mine was a pigeon. Um, you also talked about mother mayor or mary of the east, and, oh yeah, kwanian, okay yeah, kuan Yin is like one of the many of these.
Speaker 2:I'll have you say that one Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and so those are other pieces I guess Right In this whole process. Yeah, so can you take me through, like, how those are implemented, I guess into the Sometimes it's more like I witness it.
Speaker 2:Okay, kind of going back to like the seeing the chains and Somewhere along the way I started noticing the company of others that I work with, but I don't always and I don't call myself a medium. But if there's a spirit that needs to get a message across, they'll get my attention. But I don't sit down and do mediumship readings. So, yeah, the Ascended Masters just show up sometimes, so I felt their energy, these Mother Mary energies around. So Mother Mary being Mother Mary.
Speaker 2:And then Kuan Yin most people in the West don't know about, but she's like a bodhisattva. She's like I guess it's like a Buddhist ancient. She chose not to ascend so she can help humanity. But she's like a Mother Mary vibe and she presents as like a peachy pink color and Mother Mary presents as a pale blue color. So I'll get like and I'm not seeing things clearly like you right now I'll see like a silhouette and a color or a vibe shift and I'll be able to interpret the way the vibration feels, based on who. It is interesting and then at the end I'll ask for an animal totem a lot of times. Sometimes they just show up, but if I asked for it then they present in different ways. But I just kind of heard the name pigeon yeah before I even saw anything so I
Speaker 1:was like, okay, it's funny. Like we have like a bird feeder on the side of the house. This is just this side note, probably a side note, but it could be related. I don't know how it works. But uh, we have a bird feeder on the side of the house and there's like these gray doves that look like pigeons, that are like always they eat all the bird seed, they fight all the other birds, um, but it's just like interesting. You said pigeon. I was like that's so weird that, yeah, it was the one that it yeah, yeah, because it does kind of come come and they look.
Speaker 2:I think they're related.
Speaker 1:I think they're in the same family. They're definitely related. Yeah, they're ugly as hell. But um, love doves. Yeah, right, that's true, they are love doves. But OK, so let's talk about I saw I'm looking over at the board here on upcoming events Moon Circle, game Night, sound Healing We've talked about Sound Healing, witchy Day Retreat what are some of those and kind of how do you implement them into the overall business? I guess?
Speaker 2:It's just, you know, sometimes I just get inspired Like Moon Circles and Sound he healings happen like they don't happen every the moon circles don't happen every month, because months happen quickly. Yeah, it's like there's only so many days in a week, my august is basically over. I know it's crazy. I just did a moon circle because I was like there's no way I'm going to get one in september, like I could just tell.
Speaker 2:So I just wanted one in yeah um, and the sound healings I try and do like twice a month, but the other ones are kind of new. Um, the game night I never did before. I have no idea if it's even going to happen.
Speaker 2:It might be canceled, but you don't know until you try that's right yeah, like I did in april, I did a witchy weekend retreat, which is the you know. This next one is a witchy day retreat, but the witchy weekend we had three, three overnights. We were somewhere in the poconos and it was just a bunch of friends, you know, know clients, who responded to the call, you know, and I brought a game and it's kind of like a mind reading game and it was so much fun and we like laughed our asses off so I was like we should do that here, you know. So I brought that. I'm going to bring that game and two others just as a chance to like have fun time with community, and not necessarily like a purpose of, like an educational experience. It could just be a fun experience, right of like an educational experience.
Speaker 2:It could just be a fun experience, so we'll see. I don't know if that's going to take off or not. And then the witchy day. I couldn't secure enough people to do the witchy weekend in September so I canceled it. But in an effort to appease to those that were still interested, I did a day-long retreat scheduled for here and it's like we'll do a sound healing. I have a guest host who will do a mediumship gallery and then we're going to do some activities with crystals.
Speaker 2:So that's what that's about, but they fluctuate. In the beginning I taught a lot of classes about introduction to chakras, introduction to crystals, but I feel like I'm evolving out of that now. So we'll see. Sometimes it's just wordplay If I call something psychic, people don't always sign up for it. But if I call it intuition, they do, and it's like the same word, same meaning you know, but different word, different vibration, so yeah, so yeah, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2:I think I'm going to. I just last night came up with a class called Oracle something or other, I haven't figured it out yet Like Oracle Play, and it'll be using how to use pendulums, how to use tarot, how to, you know, work with numbers and the runes and all these different things. I'm like maybe people will be interested in that, because I'm calling it Oracle and I'm writing down like who knows.
Speaker 2:It's always like a manipulation of like People, no people Of like what words are going to draw people and what words don't you know? It's like I don't know and I you know. Business stuff sometimes is not my favorite.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's honestly annoying, but, um, there was also a lot of stuff in here. Um so, like I said we've mentioned before, people can see back behind us. All these things on the shelves, um, what are they? Are they part, are they like for sale or are they on?
Speaker 2:Okay, so they are for sale this is a store, so moon magic is. I call it a spiritual wellness center. It happens to be in a storefront, sure, but it's not really a store. Six days of the week. I have a friend who helps me and she runs the store on saturdays because it's a respite for her, it brings her joy, um. So we're open for store hours from like 12 to 3 on saturdays. Most times it's like check if you want to come. I hate to make people drive and like come to closed doors, but it's primarily, like you know, it's the shopping part is meant for people who are here as clients or students and whoever can show up in that small window on Saturdays. But it's just vibrational healing tools. So the crystals, lots and lots of crystals, sound tools like the chimes Um, like what else is here? I sell sage, um, yeah, those are the tincture chimes, um, but mostly it's just mostly crystals. And then I have I make my own spray for like grounding and protecting energy.
Speaker 1:And then I have the tinctures that I've just recently learned about in the last like two years, and they're good for like sleep and like anxiety and stuff like that yeah, so, um, so, with all these things you have going on here with you know, the stuff for sale, the classes, having your own clients, and reiki and the sound healing and all these different things, um, and moon magic has been in this place, in this space, excuse me, since for almost four years. Uh, what do you see kind of being like its future, so to speak, like just kind of growing the business or the things that you want to like start implementing that you don't maybe do right now, but you're interested in that you might see you doing down the road in here.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I mean, the only other thing that I haven't done, that I'm considering that's another thing that might be on the schedule in in September is a drum circle. So that's new for me. I'm like a little bit uncomfortable with like using my voice, moving my body and doing drums, but like this is probably the next evolution of like me and my own comfort level. I was raised Irish Catholic. We're not very expressive or demonstrative, so it's a little bit weird, but it it's fun if we can get over ourselves. So, like that I'm working on it, but otherwise I think I'm like looking to just be content with all of the growth I've done in the last 10 years. That like I don't need to like continue, like try. Yeah, I mean I have an online class that I created five years ago, but I'm sick of marketing it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's a good foundation for people who are new on their spiritual journeys, especially spiritual healers, energy healers. So I cover being an empath, how to protect your energy as an empath, an introduction to the chakras, crystals coming out of the spiritual closet, and then psychic development. So that's like a little package of like pre-recorded classes people can take, but I haven't like streamlined it to be a beautiful execution.
Speaker 2:But, like I was teaching it along with them, having the recorded notes and stuff. But at this point I'm I don't want to teach it anymore because it's been like I've taught it for so long. But but that's the, that's the joy of having it pre-recorded so people can still learn from me and I don't have to, like you know, learn from me and I don't have to, like you know, keep.
Speaker 2:I'm happy to support people on their journeys and, uh, supplement the things that are taught about, yeah, but um, so like I was always driving and pushing for more and what's next? And what's next that I think at this point I'm content with where I'm at, you know, and like new things will surface. Maybe someone's going to rent the space and they'll teach like restorative yoga and Qigong here on the days that I'm not here. So there's that possibility of like pulling people in to have other offerings for times I'm not using the space, but otherwise I don't have any huge ambitions. I've been told by a few different. A lot of my friends are psychic healers and they're like, oh, I see you in a bigger place with like two rooms in the back, and I'm like, okay, I guess if that's going to happen, it'll happen.
Speaker 2:I'm not pushing for it. Right now, Like I'm I'm I really am very happy with this space and what I do and my schedule, so I don't want to take on too much more responsibility.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally Even to that end. Also about how like you're talking about your kind of like process to even get here and kind of your journey on the 10 years that you've been doing this. Um, what are ways that you kind of because, like, can you read your own chakras or do you need someone else to kind of I'd always rather somebody else do my energy work for me.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I can.
Speaker 1:I could read my own chakras and get into that quiet space of meditation yeah, because I would imagine like to do this stuff for other people can, especially like, if you're doing like heavier things for, you know, people with heavier energy, I guess they can burn you out. Burn you out, you know, because not only do you have your own, but then you're like also kind of receiving their energy as well and all these different things. So take me through kind of how you balance that through kind of how you balance that.
Speaker 2:Typically I'm pretty good about it and I was getting acupuncture like every other week for the last three years and I get Reiki as often as I can. I aim to get it like twice a month. Meditation, journaling, exercise, outside time all those things are super important. And I do eat clean. I don't want to as describe to anyone diet, but like I do eat. I don't like eating like processed and fast food and stuff, but it's easy for it to slip away. So I will actively take care of my energy after I see clients every day and I do different like cleansing, like ritual not really a ritual, but cleansing like I just cleanse my energy and I do different things like salt and salt baths and things like that. But it can pile on and sneak on you. You're not realizing it so I have a tendency to say I'm stopping it. But I was saying yes to too much and I burnt myself out in the middle of June. It's probably accumulated for a few months.
Speaker 1:Sure yeah.
Speaker 2:But, like, because my acupuncture has moved and I stopped getting it and it caught up to me. So it was really evident that I dropped the ball. So the secret is to just stay on top of yourself and keep your energy clear because you can get bogged down. But doing the salt baths and taking care of myself in a proactive way, like making time for yoga, like yoga, has to be in my calendar as a regular. So if those things aren't in play, then, yeah, I will burn myself out. Yeah, and I don't see more than like three or four clients a day. Okay, you know, and I try to, I only work Tuesday through Friday. I only work from like 11 to four, and then one night a week I'll take clients at night and sometimes I'll fit them in on a Saturday or Sunday if I need to. But I generally don't like to work on the weekends unless I'm teaching a class.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause you have to be protective of yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know and I always have off on Mondays, but it's like when I'm working at home it's. You know, it's still. I'm still working. I'm not working with clients.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm still like doing stuff on my website or whatever, but yeah it's kind of get wrapped up here, because I just looked at that little tiny clock up there and I realized how long we've gone. If people are interested in receiving Reiki or some of the things that you do here, what would be your advice for them coming in for their first session? I think we kind of touched on it, but I think it would be important to kind of reiterate it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure, well, on my website and in my online calendar I have it like pretty explicit like first time, people book this and every now and then people will sneak in and take a short session, but I prefer they take the bigger one, not because it costs more money, you know, but like people like trying to like squirrel around it, it's like it's an investment in your time and your health. You know, people will take off of work to come here, which I think is awesome, even though, like, it's like oh, oh, she doesn't have hours at work for me and it's like, well, make some time for yourself yeah right so I've had and I will work with people on, like I said, on the weekends and stuff, but I do direct them to the first time appointment of either reiki or massage.
Speaker 2:So that's the only decision they have to make. They don't have to worry about all of the many offerings I have. Just pick 45 minutes of reiki or 80 minute massage, and that, and under initial consultation, first timer, because that allows me to have more time with them and to kind of like go over um, their just their history and like why they're here and like their spiritual journey, because people don't have a place to talk to about this stuff. So they come here and they unload, which is wonderful, and I'm happy to hold that space for them, but I can only do that if I have the time. So we talk a lot. I include a chakra reading with the first time sessions and we just take a lot of time to just go over whatever it is they're going through their spiritual journey and I could pull cards for them if they want me to.
Speaker 2:That's not included in my first time session. That's just something that you know. Sometimes I'll just be divinely inspired and I'm not going to charge you extra for that. Yeah, other times you can choose to include it. But yeah, it's either 45 minutes of Reiki and this session is almost an hour and a half, because it's 45 minutes on the table Right and then all the rest of the time talking, and then the 80 minute massage is the other option, and because a 60 minute massage I feel like I'm racing and you're not getting a full experience, and the 80 minute allows me to also read the chakras and give a thorough massage. I'm not like cutting anything out to make time, so I just think an 80 minute massage is the way to go. Sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it sounds great yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's, that's the first time, like that's the way in is just to just pick them, and I offer coupons pretty often and I try to be flexible with people. If anyone's ever, like you know, reaching out, like I'm happy to like cut people a break. I'm not, you know, but I do have to pay rent, so it's like I would.
Speaker 1:There are no breaks and.
Speaker 2:I would give it all away for free if I could. Yeah, I'm not that much independently.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, so none of us are no, um, okay. So people, now they're like all right, I'm ready to book. Where should I go? Socials website where would you send them?
Speaker 2:I have it complicated because I have two websites and two socials because I started out as Rebalance for AGM Massage On Facebook it's at Bringing Balance, because that was my name before I figured out Rebalance and I had too many people to change it. So that's Facebook and then at Moon Magic Wellness is for the store and then I did the websites also like just the SEO and all that stupid stuff with like website discoverability. I kept Rebalance with Reiki R-E-I-K-I as a website for my healing work. Moonmagicwellnesscom is about the store and it links back to the rebalance with rakey. So I have moon magic wellness on instagram and at rebalance rakey on instagram and then the two websites. So it's annoying that it's like that, but it's like two different personalities.
Speaker 2:Like rebalance rakey, I share my pictures and it's just my creative um outlet yeah and I also throw my podcast episodes there, for whatever reason, and then then Moon Magic is just all my events, you know. So that's, it's a way to sort it out in my head, to kind of keep keep it separate, sure, somewhat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so they all talk to each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're all interconnected, so you can find me in both of those places.
Speaker 1:Great, all right. So we're going to in the show notes. Just go click them, check them out.
Speaker 2:You can also just look up Karen Foot and Reiki and you'll find it.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, thank you for doing this with us today. Thank you for the session. That was cool and awesome and it was much needed this morning. But thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you for having me. Absolutely so again, we're going to putostatecom in the show notes as well, just because that's the website of the show, and we want you to go check out all of our other episodes that we've done this year because, like I keep saying, we're just crushing it with great episodes so far this year, and this one's no different. So, greetingsfromtheguardiostate Moon Moon Magic. We were here at Moon Magic in Hillsdale, new Jersey. She was Karen Foote.
Speaker 2:I'm Mike Ham. This has been the Greatest for the Guard State podcast powered by the New Jersey Lottery. Thank you for listening and we'll catch you next time. Thank you. Oh, tell me before you go on the wing, do you wanna ride? Thank you.
