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S5 E12: The Fall of 1777: Brandywine, Germantown, and Saratoga

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In this episode, the conversation continues through the American Revolution by exploring the pivotal battles of 1777. Along the way, Dale and Brian highlight the resilience of George Washington and the Continental Army, the bravery of leaders like Nathaniel Greene and John Stark, and the surprising role Benedict Arnold played before becoming one of history’s most infamous traitors.

The episode also reflects on how perseverance in the face of loss helped shape the future of the nation. From tactical retreats to unexpected victories, these moments of history reveal powerful lessons about endurance, sacrifice, and fighting for something greater than yourself. 


Episode Highlights: 

  • Washington fights to protect Philadelphia after retreating through New Jersey.
  • Nathaniel Greene helps save the Continental Army at Brandywine.
  • Fog and friendly fire derail the American attack at Germantown.
  • Saratoga becomes the turning point that brings France into the war.


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There were times when you couldn't win the battle, but you fight your best, then you step back, you regroup, and you go at it again. I mean, how true is that in life? How true is that in business, in family, what have you? Things don't always go your way.

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So, why would two guys leave comfortable jobs, move across the country, and start a business in an industry they don't know, a place they don't know? And could it be successful? We're Dale and Brian Carnegie.

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Welcome to the Impact Without Limits Podcast.

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Hey, we've we've been giving you some quizzes. Here's one for you Ohio residents. We're we're filming here in Stark County. How is Stark County um associated with or affiliated with the Revolutionary War?

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Welcome back to the Impact Without Limits podcast. Brian Carmy here with my brother Dale. Hey oh. And we are walking through uh American history, the American Revolution in celebration of the semi uh semi-quincentennial. Semi-quincentennial.

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I've said that more in the last well, I never said it before. So it's so funny. I hated the word. I love it.

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It's now a great word.

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Lori rolls her eyes now. And she doesn't love it either. I I say it all the time, and Lori rolls her eyes. It's the semi-quincentennial. Yeah.

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Makes sense. Of the 500 years.

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If if we have people that are paying attention, they might notice things look a little different here. A little refresh on the set. We uh updated the set. We're no longer in our uh lounge lizard chairs. We're up sitting at the table. Uh different camera angles to you out there in camera land. And uh we'll see. See if it throws us off or how we do. It's already thrown us off a little bit, but we'll get there. I do want to call out. Uh having this had here or notice this is for Everlon in honor of the semi-quincentennial America. Um, if anybody wants one, send us an email. I think they're for sale. I don't know how much they are, but they're cool. That was a sales pitch and a half. Yeah. If anyone wants one, send us. Send us an email. How do they do it? They there's a thing on the link, right? All right. So our our uh producer Bethany just reminded us that there's a fan mail button or fan mail link on the uh Impact Without Libit Limits podcast that you can click on that.

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I guess that's how they would do it. And if you send us fan mail, the first three fan mails we get we're sending free hats too. Wow. Three free hats because we're covering three battles today. Look at that. Yeah, how about that? So the last we were kind of walking through the there are some we were just looking at this. There's hundreds of battles.

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Hundreds of battles, some of them in foreign countries. Can I pause for a moment and just say it is stunning the number of battles we're just scanning through, and I realize some of them may be smaller skirmishes, but we had this website that recorded every battle. It's mind-boggling.

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Yes.

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I mean, we end the doggone Brits won a bunch of them.

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They did. They did. So the last episode we did, we talked about uh Washington crossing the Delaware and then the surprise attack on Trenton and then the battle at Princeton. So that was beginning, or it was early seven, late 76, early 77. Yep. New Year's, Christmas and New Year's, 76 into 77. So we're gonna jump ahead to the fall.

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This is time travel seven. Look, a lot of, I'm sure a lot of big things happen between January and September of 77. We're gonna fly over those because we we got to choose our battles.

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Oh, I see what you do.

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I like that one.

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One thing I'm I'm gonna stop on just for a second as we're flying over and look out the window and point at June 14th, 1777. The stars and stripes become the official flag of the United States. And it was the Betsy Ross flag specifically. So the the flag with the 13 stripes, the blue square, and the 13 stars. Um, and kind of a neat story there. So June 14th, I knew it was flag day, but I never knew why. It's because that is the date that Congress adopts the Stars and Stripes as the American flag. Love the Stars and Stripes. All right, so the British have this strategy in 77, which um is kind of two-pronged. You've got General Burgoyne, and I probably say some of these names wrong.

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No Burgoyne's, I think you got it right.

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General Burgoyne is in Canada and he's coming south, and the idea is to cut off New England from the rest of the colonies. And then you've got Sir William Howe, which I was wondering why we don't call him General. We can, but he was also a knight. So he was like British. So he wore the armor and had the sword. I think he had the feather. I think that made him. But yeah, he had the but so his plan was to to take Philadelphia and then move north and meet up with Burgoyne to they're trying to cut the head off the snake. They are. And Washington is like just trying to survive.

SPEAKER_02

So remember, just quick rehash, um, summer of 76, we lose New York. Yes. And then the British, I'm I'm gonna say chase, I don't know if that's the right word, but they push the American Army, General Washington, and the Army out of New York, chase them through New Jersey. And um, you know, we have the the um crossing of the Delaware, which was a strike back at that, but uh our army's been getting pushed. It's now we're trying to protect Philadelphia, right? That's what's leading up. So lose New York, getting pushed through New Jersey. Now we're trying to protect uh the city where we signed the Declaration of Independence.

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So Howe uh comes in with 17,000 men. They come across from the, I think they're coming in from the coast. They land in in uh northern Chesapeake and they they march north to Philadelphia, and Washington is realizing he's gotta fight them. So the first battle is uh September seventh September 11th of 77, and that is the Battle of Brandywine. And so Washington is trying to stop.

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Interesting September 11th.

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I know Washington's trying to stop this. Um, and and this is actually a there's a couple things come out of this battle. Uh spoiler alert, we lose it. But Washington realizes he doesn't have really good reconnaissance, he doesn't have a good intelligence of what's going on. Um, and he also realizes that like sometimes you have to fight a battle even if you're not going to win it, because you have to show resistance. And so there was some good and bad that came out of it, even though we we lost. But they're they're fighting this battle, and the British have uh in Hal are like fighting the front side of this battle, and then they send a group around with General Cornwallis, and I can't remember whether Cornwallis is the front and Howe goes around the side, but it's the other way, but they come around the right flank and they attack, and the Americans are totally exposed, and they're just getting crushed. So they're overwhelmed with number of troops, they're overwhelmed with strategy. Uh, but there's a hero that jumps up, and it's a name we're gonna hear a lot more, Nathaniel Green. Yep. So Nathaniel Green's guys start fighting this right flank, and they hold off the British enough to let Washington and his troops retreat and save themselves through this battle.

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So we've said this before, right? It was up in uh, I think the the Battle of Long Island, bat battle of Manhattan, where we talked about the retreat, right? That that retreat may have been one of our biggest victories, and and it happens again. And you know, we have to understand if if Nathaniel Green doesn't take that group and engage the British where he did, that British army collapses on and around Washington and the and the whole you know, the main force of the revolutionary army, the Continental Army. Again, that that could be the end. Absolutely. And um you know, you never you you never want to take uh pride loss, right? You're not looking for moral victories, but you know, maybe you are.

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I think that was one of Washington's strengths early on in the wars. Um I mean he didn't have a lot of victories right up to I mean you talked about summer of 76 was the retreat across New Jersey, or the fall. Um and and but key moments he would win big battles, right? Yeah, the crossing of Delaware and Princeton and or Trenton and Princeton. Um and here it was one of those moments where he was smart enough to realize hey, we can stay here and keep fighting, we're gonna lose. Let's let's save it to fight another day. Step back and regroup. So that allows the British, it opens the road, they get into Philadelphia and they end up taking over Philadelphia September 26th.

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I want to pause because I don't know that this is uh completely right, so though some of this partly right. This is either the biggest or one of the largest battles of the Revolutionary War in terms of troops. And the one I'm looking at here says there's 30,000, um over 30,000 troops engaged. Pretty even. It says 15,500 are British, 14,500 of the American. I was doing a quick search to try and find was it the largest? I don't know if it was the largest, but it was one of the largest. That's a big battle. And again, we are fighting Britain's best. And so even though that becomes a loss, the fact that you stood toe-to-toe, the fact that you um you know defended your ground, but then when you realize that we're able to execute an orderly escape, uh that that is that moral victory. So now so go back. I it's just the scope of because I think a lot of people, if you said, Hey, uh, what do you know about the battle of Brandywine? A lot of people don't even know that it was a battle. I I I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but it's I to be honest, going through it.

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The amount of stuff I didn't know and don't know is amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I absolutely agree. And and again, for those of you out there and listening to this, please don't hear this as us trying to be experts. We're not, we're going through this learning, and I've learned more going through this than I learned in any history class. But go research this stuff. There's so many good books, so many good resources where you can learn. Yeah, just use good sources. Yes. Yeah, right?

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Closer to the source the better.

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Yeah.

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But we we were walking in, we're coming across the parking lot, and uh Brian, you and I were both lamenting about the fact that I wish I knew this stuff before. Yes, right? What if what if I would have known all of this and been diving into this information trying to learn 20 years ago? How cool would that have been? But the flip side is 20 years from now, we might be saying, I wish 20 years ago I would have dove into this. Yeah. So here we are.

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So we're we're we're getting in at the right spot. It's like the saying on planting a tree, right? What's the best time to plant a tree? 10 years ago. But you what's the second best time right now today, right? So uh short of Doc Brown on the time machine. We're gonna have to go for right now. All right. So the British take over Philadelphia September 26th, and then October 4th, we've got the Battle of Germantown. So Washington devises this plan to kind of separate his troops into four columns and attack the British, kind of a surprise attack. Um and and it it reminded me, and I didn't see any other people talking about this, so I I could be totally off, but it reminded me of what he did when they were crossing the Dun River, right? He divides into three groups, three columns. When he's crossing the Delaware, two of them don't make it, right? So it's a little different, but in this case, same context. Because of the ice on on the on the river. So they divide into four columns and they're attacking, and they do initially surprise the British, and they start to to drive the British back and they start to take ground. And the the British retreat into this house. There was a Chief Justice, and I can't remember his first name, but his last name is Chew. They call it the Chew House, like Chew Tobacco. Um but so they're they're they're in this house. And I actually I think this house is still standing, because I saw pictures of it. But this it's this stone home. It's Justice Benjamin Chu. Justice Benjamin Chu. And the British hold hole up in this house and they're shooting out the windows. It's not that I mean it's big. It wasn't a good thing. Is it the British Army hiding in a house? Well, I don't think it's the home army, but a section of them. But the Americans are stuck trying to attack the and take this house, right? And so they've got this group that's doing that, and and it really slows down the advance and the attack. And so the British are just holding ground, and then you get this fog that rolls in. And when the fog rolls in, you've got Americans kind of split, and you've got these different columns. The one led by Nathaniel Green, and the other one was, you said General Wayne. Yeah, General Wayne. Well, they get confused because there's like this kind of pause in the action, and then there's fog, and they hear the then they hear the firing at the chew house, and they actually start shooting at each other.

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Friendly fire.

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Friendly fire.

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And right, so so Green's, I think Green's group or Green's Brigade open fire on Wayne's, and then Wayne's surprised in the fog, they get hit, they turn around and start firing back, and it takes a moment till they realize, oh my goodness, we're shooting at each other. Yeah. And uh it could have been a lot worse. I I they you know, I my notes say that the the leadership of both Green and Wayne and how they were able to control the men and and get them separated saved a lot of lives. But how crazy is that? Yeah, the other thing, right? You compared it to crossing the Delaware. Crossing the Delaware, the surprise attack was hampered by the ice and the river, and they had this plan and they couldn't execute it the way they did. Now that one turned out better for us, but this one again, the weather, the the initial attack here worked. The surprise caught the British off guard. It truly was a surprise. You had them fleeing in disarray, but the other troops that were supposed to be in place to like exploit that weren't able to get there because of the fog. Uh the house, too. But uh the weather really, really threw things off for us there.

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So you end up with because of the friendly fire and the all all the commotion, the British rally and they win, right? They win that battle. So they you know repel the Americans. They don't get to um advance and take back Philadelphia. The British maintained control of Philadelphia, but there were a lot of European, really specifically French observers that watched both of these battles and and the the orderly and the the fighting of Nathaniel Green and the orderly retreat of Washington and ability to save himself his crew to troops to fight another day, and then the the military um intelligence of of how they attacked uh this uh Germantown battle, and then also just the bravery of their men. The French are like, hey, these American colonists are real, and those battles, even though they lost both of them, were part of the big reasons that the French ended up saying, All right, let's bet on these guys.

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Yeah. I think you um emboldened or persuaded the French, and I think it was a also a big blow to the psyche of the British, because the British, as you read, you know, some of the things I've read, some of the books I've read, what have you, I mean, time and again, the British thought this was going to be a short war, it was going to be a quick war. As soon as they flexed their muscle, you know, these tiny colonies are gonna collapse, and they didn't have the the fortitude, they didn't have the stamina, they didn't have the willpower to resist this. And all of a sudden, like you're saying, even in a victory, their eyes are being open. They're like, wait a second, what you know what's going on here? This was supposed to be easy, and it's anything but um so yeah, the the and it it's funny, Brian, because there are also aren't watching this theater in real time. Yeah, right? People in Europe don't find out about what's going on. I mean, at the the the quickest would be weeks, weeks, likely months to get this information and what they're getting is a recount. Here's what happened on the battlefield, and um you know, you would think that if the British are sending information back to their king, they're probably gonna try and paint it in as good a light as they can, but they still gotta say, we lost this many people. Yeah, we we took it, but here's a record of all the soldiers and the people we lost. That was pretty amazing.

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So, about the same time that those battles are happening, you've got Burgoyne and his troops coming, they captured Fort Ticonderoga, they're they're coming down from Canada, and again, they're supposed to connect with Howe's troops, except Howe is stuck in Philadelphia. Some of it could have been because he was battling these attacks from Washington, some of it could have been because he made some misjudgments. He maybe didn't have the will. But um the British troops are are coming down and and they start to run out of supplies. So they actually go on this foraging expedition to go gather food and and supplies and and things, and there's this uh Battle of Bennington where um American troops under Horatio Gates and specifically it was a general John Stark attack these British troops are out there foraging, and and there's a victory. And John Stark's this guy from New Hampshire, and this is where all these like small, not small, the these major characters of this battle that sometimes get lost in history. I mean, it's a name that I didn't really know, right? But Tony Tony Stark. I mean, come on. I mean it's a little different. But so as I'm reading this, the account of this, I I read John Stark is is from New Hampshire and he wrote the words live free or die, right? Death is not the worst fate. But that becomes the motto of New Hampshire, right? And I knew that New Hampshire was a live free or die. I never knew we're live free or die from. It came from John Stark. But then as he's getting his he's kind of encouraging his guys to attack, he I the the encouragement, he's like, hey, there's the red coats. This is our opportunity. Go get them. Either tonight we take these red coats or Molly Stark lives as a widow. And he said that, and I said, wait a second. You know Molly Stark? Right? What do you know Molly Stark from?

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She's the ghost up in the building house. Yeah, right. I mean, right literally right up the road, 15 minutes from here was the uh the Molly Stark sanitari sanitarium.

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Less than five minutes from our house, right? Yeah, and and whether it's truly haunted, I'm not gonna say one way or another. I don't know, but it's an old sanitarium. My kids tried to break into that once.

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They did. It was it I it's I think they've kind of tightened it down now. Yeah. But when we first moved here, it was not as protected. And I think Derek might have taken Kaylin and maybe McKenna down, and they were like hoisting up, trying to climb up and look in windows, and it was it was pretty run down.

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If anyone is is into that thing, like you know, haunted mansions and stuff, you you do some research. Molly Stark comes up quite a bit, like but so I'm sitting there reading, I'm thought, oh my goodness, we live in Stark County. And I start doing some research. Sure enough, Stark County is named after this guy, John Stark, and he is from New Hampshire. He actually never stepped foot in Ohio, lives his whole life in New, you know, New New York, uh, New I'm sorry, in New Hampshire, fighting these battles in New York. But it's around the time Stark County's founded, around the time, you know, shortly after the Revolutionary War, and they're trying to honor all these heroes, and so they name it after him, and then the tuberculosis hospital, sanitarium, ends up being named after his wife, Molly Stark. All right. So there's a little bit of a divergence there with John Stark, but I just thought that was unique enough. I had to dive into it. So Howe ends up staying in Philadelphia, doesn't join up with Borgoyne, the American m militia is able to to win this battle against um. His troops when they're out foraging. And then you have these two battles that kind of together become the Battle of Saratoga. You've got Freeman's Farm, September 19th, and Bemis Heights on October 7th. And this is under Horatio Gates. He's kind of the leading general. But there is a Horatio's a cool name.

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Horatio is a good name. I don't like Gates.

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Not the name, the person. So Horatio Gates and George Washington both served together in the for the British under the uh, I guess, French and Indian War, right? Yep. And so they had they had been in battles, knew each other, um, but now they're fighting for the Americans. And George Washington's in in command, he's in Philadelphia. You've got Horatio Gates, um, who's leading the Northern command and fighting these battles up in Saratoga? Um, but there's somebody else that jumps in here. Who's the hero of the battle? I think you know this one. Yeah, do we have a do we have a can we do a quick question?

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Quick poll. Pop quiz. Uh who was the hero aside from Horatio Gates of the Battle of Saratoga, and what side of the war was he on? Ooh. The answer is Benedict Arnold. Benedict Arnold. I think we might have asked that question in another one, but that's okay. We'll see who is paying attention.

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But Benedict Arnold, he actually kind of defies Horatio Gates a little bit, and he goes full out to win this battle and ends up a lot of bravery, ends up winning this battle. And and this is considered Saratoga's considered the turning point of the war, right? When really it started to shift.

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Well, I I mean, I think that's that final battle that convinced the French absolutely to come in. You had Brandywine, you had Germantown, they were losses, we presented well, and then you have the Battle of Saratoga, and following that, the French are like, okay, and I mean there's a lot going on, but that was kind of like that defining battle that told him to come in. So it is they pivotal won in the war, and it was won by Benedict Arnold.

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Benedict Arnold, who shortly there at not shortly, but a few years later ends up, I think it's money that gets him, but ends up being a trader. It's interesting.

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So I watched that series turn, yeah, about watching the spot. It's it's just so it's kind of cool to I've watched that before I knew some of the details of the things we're we're reading now, and now I'm getting uh information that I plug back into that series. And I'm not saying the series was completely accurate, I'm sure it wasn't, but there there was a lot of uh, you know, it's based on the true story of the I'm not even gonna say the name because there's gonna be a question later, but um but they depicted Benedict Arnold as wanting to achieve, wanting to have greatness, wanting to be recognized, was never quite getting it, was never quite getting the acknowledgement um he received. And yes, when when he ends up turning, there was money involved, and maybe we'll dive into this more later, but more than the money, it was him wanting to be recognized. Yeah, kind of interesting. How how true is that? I don't know. We'll need to dive into it more, but that was it was an interesting portrayal.

SPEAKER_01

So the the result of the battles, the the battle of Saratoga, is that Burgoyne and his troops are surrounded, they end up surrendering. 6,000 British troops surrender on October 17th. What do you do with Put them to work? What do you do with these guys when they surrender?

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I guess you march them back to a camp and I know what the British did in a lot of cases. They had the ships in the harbor harbor and they made prison ships and they'd stuff our you know, our soldiers in these ships, and death rate in these ships was incredible because of the disease and disease and the filth. But what'd we do? It's not like we had camps or prisons or things to do with them. I I don't know the answer to that.

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That's just a yeah, it's a thought. That ends up being, I believe, the largest British surrender, certainly in that up to that point, but I believe in the entire war. I think Yorktown might exceed that. But Yorktown's I don't want to give it away. You know, pretend that wasn't said. Um, but anyway, so that this fall of 77, just such a big shift in the war, right? The British had been winning. They were um you know, Washington is fighting in Philadelphia, the Brandywine in Germantown. They're not able to win, but they show good fortitude and they show good military strength. Um Horatio Gates and the team up north wins the Battle of Saratoga. French see all of this and they're like, okay, we're in. And we're gonna we're gonna and the French didn't like the British, right? So this was an opportunity for them, right? The the enemy of our enemy is our friend, right? And so that was the opportunity here.

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And and I don't know, I think we're probably getting towards the end of this episode, but I I want to pause, I don't want to bring this to life, right? Think about what we're saying. There were there were there were times when you couldn't win the battle, but you fight your best, then you step back, you regroup, and you go at it again. I mean, how true is that in life? How true is that in business, in family, what have you? Things don't always go your way. You uh I mean, you know, we have three or four seasons of the podcast where we're talking about all the hardships, all the challenges we hit. We lost a lot. We took a lot of hits. But you don't let it defeat you. You regroup, you you you escape out of the situation you're in as orderly as you can, you protect yourself as well as you can, and and then you go back at it and you go back to the fight. And sometimes just staying alive, just surviving gives the opportunity maybe for you to do something better, but maybe it's for somebody else or something else to happen to come in and assist you. Another battle, Saratoga, um, the French joining, somebody else joining your cause or seeing what's happening. Uh, there absolutely this is a I don't know if the battles are microcosm of our life or if it's the other way around. The lives are microcosm of the battle, but there are things you can look at and you can learn, and you can say there's a lot of life lessons, a lot of profound information there.

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I another thing that jumps out to me is just some of these names and some of these people that were so instrumental and the heroes of this, right? And we watched another video clip. Do you want to talk about Knowles at all right now? We'll bring him in in another one. I think I think we're at probably 20-some minutes or people that fought in so many of these battles. Sometimes generals let it that get lost to history, especially, I think, because we don't do a good job teaching it anymore.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, but I mean we, and this is a collective we're talking our people, society, whatever, we don't even know what year the war started. We don't even know the opening words of the Declaration of Independence. How in the world are we gonna know key people or key figures associated with this?

SPEAKER_01

Correct. It's a crime, but these are people that without their sacrifice, we don't have what we have, their will, their fight, we wouldn't be here. And so the gratitude that we should have looking back at this and thinking about this and appreciating, you know, it goes back to the lines that you you put on your car, our right, our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor. They didn't lay that down for their own well-being, they put those on the line for future generations and posterity. And um we're very grateful that they did.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we we should be memorializing these people. We should be memorializing what they did, what they stood for. And again, being redundant, but sometimes you got to hammer a point home. That's why we're doing what we're doing. That's why we're we're we're that's why we do our impact without limits. We want to be people of impact and we want to help create people of impact. And one of the ways we're doing that now is by reflecting back on our nation, our founding, our heritage, because if we don't know it, we can't remember it, we can't memorialize it. And um I would I I want to say amazing people did amazing things, but I I almost want to change it. I don't want to say common or ordinary people stepped up and did amazing things and and made the life we have today possible. It's just astounding.

SPEAKER_01

And here we are, Stark County, Ohio. I bet you if we went did a man on the street interview, I could ask a hundred people. I would be shocked if I got more than that knew who John Stark was, but we do now. John Stark, his wife Molly, lived in New Hampshire, but our namesake here in Ohio, because of John Stark's bravery, specifically in the uh Battle of Saratoga. So uh with that, we will uh wrap up this episode and just a quick teaser. There's another name we'll talk about next week. We might have talked about him before, but another name that somebody that never was in a hung up, but something here is named that.

SPEAKER_02

I remember that is, so I can't wait for the next episode. See you next. God bless.

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This is the thread calling me reminding you that faith looks up, hope looks ahead, and love looks all around to see whom it can help. Good day.