Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee
Unfiltered. Unapologetic. Unafraid to say what needs to be said.
Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee is where sharp wit meets grown-man perspective. A mature rebrand of Big Baby’s Podcast, this show dives headfirst into the intersections of sports, politics, hip-hop, and culture—without watering down the truth.
From the barbershop to the boardroom, A.C. Lee blends humor, intellect, and raw honesty to tackle the conversations others avoid. Each episode brings bold takes, cultural critique, and unapologetic storytelling shaped by Southern roots, Cartersville pride, and Atlanta energy.
If you’re tired of safe conversations and cookie-cutter commentary, you’ve found your spot. This isn’t about being politically correct—it’s about being culturally inappropriate.
Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee
Village Vets: New Year, Same Vets
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The night starts with windburned lips, icy sidewalks, and a paint-splattered rave story, then veers into a warehouse stripper party at 5 a.m.—the kind of chaotic detail that says more about city instincts than nightlife glamour. We’re laughing, reading rooms, and choosing our peace, whether that means sitting in a booth, grabbing takeout, or turning around when the staff vibe is off.
Then the tone sharpens. Atlanta cleared the deck—Rich McKay’s influence, Raheem’s growth curve, and a front office reset that feels both overdue and risky. We pull apart what “new” really means in team-building, why a run-and-play-action identity fits this roster, and how coaching philosophies can either elevate quarterbacks or exile them. The hard truth lands: the Falcons have been close for years, good enough to lose tight games, and culture—not just play calls—decides whether a franchise learns to finish.
Across town, the Hawks look different without Trae. A big guard putting up 30 and 10 changes the geometry of defense, rotations get longer and faster, and fans face the heartbreak of loving a star while seeing a better team shape without him. It’s not hate—it’s identity. Systems that match personnel win; systems that force compromise leak points in crunch time.
The conversation’s heaviest turn confronts faith, power, and belonging. Allegations tied to a gospel figure open a raw talk about “praying the gay away,” mentorship misused, and why so many people feel judged in sanctuaries that should feel like home. One of us still shows up on Sundays and calls church folks to remember the God part; the other lays out why he stopped walking through the doors. Pastors who live among people—know the music, fix the car down the block, and listen before preaching—bridge the gap between pews and real life.
Nightlife, sports, and spirituality end up pointing at the same lesson: culture is everything. Build around people, not ideals. Seek spaces that see you. And when it’s your turn to lead—team, table, or church—choose humility over performance. Tap play, ride with us, and tell a friend. If this hits, subscribe, rate, and drop a review—what part got you thinking?
Yeah, no, that's the only thing though, bro. I will I left this morning. It was I want to say it was dark as hell about 4 30. I left the left the building, that other building at six. Then had to go down that damn road. I just got back at nine. Shh. I said, man, fuck everything. Oh my fault. I forgot we just went live. Forget everything. What's been going on though, man? What you been up to? How was uh what New York been whooping you on?
SPEAKER_04:Uh shit's cold, man. Cold, cold as here.
SPEAKER_02:It wasn't it wasn't that rough here. We've been getting that good January uh break in pretty good.
SPEAKER_04:Man, I had to put on chapstick all day today. My lips are so ashy because it was so windy.
SPEAKER_02:What'd you say?
SPEAKER_04:It was so windy today, nigga. I had to put I'm putting on chapstick all day.
SPEAKER_02:You don't want to walk around with the poop. No, I can't get a little.
SPEAKER_04:I can't have little I can't have a little cool j on my side because that shit gonna get you chopped up quicker.
SPEAKER_01:It's gonna have a chap too quicker. Go ahead. You so chopped up, it's gonna be a waste of time.
SPEAKER_03:Uh what y'all talking about going to a western show? Oh you're gonna have your chops on.
SPEAKER_04:You said you're going to Coachella? That's what you said.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no, I ain't going to Coachella. It's hot out there.
SPEAKER_04:No, it's not.
SPEAKER_03:Where is Coachella at? In the fucking desert.
SPEAKER_04:What's the name of the CJC? Was it?
SPEAKER_02:I thought that she was in Florida.
SPEAKER_04:No, no, that brought a lap.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, okay, that's what I'm all right.
SPEAKER_03:I don't remember the name of it, but you like flying to Palm Springs. You done member? No, I could have gone one year and worked it.
SPEAKER_00:And then I could, I mean, I could have bought this ticket too.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I didn't want to go when I was in the military because I feel like if you go to a festival like that, you need to be open to doing drugs. True. No, that's for sure. I ain't saying you gotta do them, but like I feel like if you go out there, you should be open to like some psychedelics or some stuff like that, you know. No, I don't think you should do ayahuasca there. Maybe some shrooms.
SPEAKER_02:I never do them again. I tell you, no, I'll never do shrooms again in my life. This did me awful. I mean awful, Jack. Like, oh man.
SPEAKER_04:Hey, you talking about the gummies?
SPEAKER_02:No, I had a raw one, like a real mushroom, bruh. My buddy has my buddy has some me and him did, and it was like it was crazy because I thought I always thought I ain't never really had one of them hallucinating vibes with those jokes. Bruh, no lie. I'm sitting at a kitchen table, I never forget it. It felt like everything started moving closer to me, and I'm it felt like I was stuck at the kitchen. Man, that shit was awful. I don't really recommend it personally. Do what you do, but I don't I don't recommend it. That's all that's the vista.
SPEAKER_03:I don't recommend drugs to anyone.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that'll be different.
SPEAKER_03:I ain't gonna say that, but I'm I said I don't recommend them. I I didn't say I have a problem with people doing them, but I'm just I ain't gonna recommend it. I do.
SPEAKER_04:I seen a nigga. I saw they said uh I seen a nigga lay. I didn't tell y'all last week. I seen a nigga get tased, fell straight to the ground.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, that's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, tell us tell me a little bit more about that one. Uh them goddamn rosters was out there arguing with this shit and thought he, you know, police came over there, taught to calm down. He still went do all that yellow. Police he he backed up, had his hand up, had his hand on the uh taser gun and said, Hey sir, you know, he's still doing all that raw rock, BJ. Boom, went down.
SPEAKER_00:Couldn't even scream good. She caught everything, and it's cold. I say, Man, please.
SPEAKER_02:Man, please. It's still snow outside, too. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Hitting that ground, man, please.
SPEAKER_04:It ain't it ain't it ain't snow no more. It's blocks of ice just sitting on the sidewalk. That's okay.
SPEAKER_02:How do that how did that work if you got like if it's wet on the ground or whatever?
SPEAKER_04:It's still got like a little uh well every day they all day they don't, you know, the trucks.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they clean the street. I mean, I get it, so that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_04:Uh dropping salt.
SPEAKER_02:Salt I know what you're saying. That's what I'm that's what I mean. So yeah, what I'm saying is is when you when buddy got hit, did he fall on the snow? Did he fall on the snow?
SPEAKER_04:Well, they're gonna they go on the sidewalk, they clear the sidewalks because they'll get sued. Like I failed.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you threw the fall. I got it.
SPEAKER_04:They said they supposed to because I fell hard as fuck. I ain't gonna lie to you.
SPEAKER_02:That we that when that side was hurting, so maybe straight side, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I thought I was gonna have to go. I thought I was gonna have to have the bo Jackson.
SPEAKER_03:When'd you follow your hill? Last week two weeks ago.
SPEAKER_00:It was last week. What I didn't have last week. I had a week.
SPEAKER_04:Then about two weeks. Man, I was walking at sea. Man, I was walking, I had my book bag, you know, had my phones in my hand, and man, I just boom, just went down. It was so it wasn't no stumble, it wasn't no stumble. You know, most niggas stumble and all this. No, it boom, straight to the ground.
SPEAKER_02:Straight ground when you six five, you ain't supposed to fall. That's a that's a long fall, too.
SPEAKER_04:Got dirt all over on my jacket and everything.
SPEAKER_02:Your feet go up first. What fell?
SPEAKER_04:I fell down like side, like side. You just went straight, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You gotta make sure you flat, you gotta flatten out that wrist. You want to be very flat here. When you impact the ground, that'll break the fall.
SPEAKER_04:Well, no, I didn't I had time to break no fall. I fell straight to the ground. AC was well, see, that's why you have to break. So you wasn't there, Cass How that day when Miss Mason came walking fast and your fat ass fell down.
SPEAKER_05:Hey, relax, relax, relax.
SPEAKER_04:That's how I feel. I didn't get up quick like that because I'm on concrete.
SPEAKER_02:Hey man, what let's bring it in? What's tell me about y'all new years, man? How was it?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was cool.
SPEAKER_01:What the hell you do?
SPEAKER_03:Tell us uh man, uh me and Parlay Pete was out just doing some wash and wedding shit, you know. We went out to uh Manny's. What that is uh bar. We brought in the new year's at Manny's, then we went to some other bar. Uh and I I don't really know um what was going on there. Uh I forgot the name of the bar of the club or whatever. A lot of house music, not a lot of people who look like us. Uh what's house music? Like, is that considered techno? I mean to me, it's modern day techno. I don't know. I'm a nigga, man.
SPEAKER_04:You remember when Terry Cruz was going crazy on white chick? Yeah, I got you. And when they didn't have coat check, man, you remember you remember we went to that rave years ago, BJ. I ain't gonna say who were with us, but you remember we went to that rave. Me, you were by six d I ain't gonna say who would have, but we're about six d we went to that rave.
SPEAKER_02:I remember what was it? What was that in a little?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Hold on, y'all went to a rave.
SPEAKER_04:GB invited us, I'll say that.
SPEAKER_03:GB GB. Y'all know we have a oh, you know we have a group text, right?
SPEAKER_04:You could just Chippendale, you know what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay. I know exactly what you talk. Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04:They were playing their house music in there, yeah. Yeah, some of them had me walk around with blue sticks on my neck.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Dog, I never tell told y'all about the rave I went to when I was at Morehouse. Uh uh. So some niggas was going like one of my partners was going to a rave. I had never been to one, and I heard about what rave, you know, a wild party. I'm like, it let's just go to one. It was a paint party. I didn't know that when I got there. So you know, I'm in regular, I think I'm in polo. And we get in there, I ain't really rocking with the music. I wasn't on drugs, you know. I'm saying, like, I don't really do, I don't, I don't do them party drugs and shit like that. So I I I I wasn't feeling what they was in the feeling, but it was my first time, so I was just like, well, maybe it's just me. Let me just keep drinking. I keep drinking. I'm like, bro, I can't find this vibe. And I'm like, hey dog, we're gonna give it 30 more minutes. Cause it was a bunch of you know, chicks just making out, making out with each other. Like, you see, it's it's in there, so it's like I just gotta find what they do because they don't see me not realizing they they drugged the hell up, so they just zombies, ma'am. We walking through, dog. I got hit in the face with some of that paint they started flicking around. Uh I looked to my nigga. I said, Hey bro, don't go.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I don't go, bro. They ain't throwing paint at me at no point.
SPEAKER_02:Hell no, I know paint. Yeah, yeah, I use urinals. We are uh I I do want to know who I want to know about the six though. What uh what six is with us, Ru? We'll talk about it off camera. But I knew he know what six is with us.
SPEAKER_00:He really tried to over there trying to figure that out.
SPEAKER_02:That what wait, let me see. Was that when uh no? That was me, you and Dean that was that had all them. Remember that night we went out and they had all the uh those characters and shit. I don't know what was going on, but I think I got pictures in my phone from it. But it's like we was was all dressed up. We were dressed up, we were dressed up, yeah. Everybody had on like suits and shit. And I want to say we went to I want to say it was like opera or some shit, but they had like what was it? It was like oh no, yeah, I it was like they had costume, you know.
SPEAKER_03:I'm talking about they had the costumes. Did I go to opera that night, or did y'all just come to Morehouse after? We went to opera. Y'all went to opera, then y'all put up on me after. I didn't go to opera that night when y'all was when they had the costumes. Y'all told me about it. You was definitely there. We got pictures there, me, you and Dean. Uh or it was me treaving you, Trev and Dean. Then y'all pulled up on me after okay, okay, okay. Y'all really wasn't feeling what was going on in there. Gotcha. It wasn't Wednesday night, it was some of that weird shit going on in there. Super weird in there. So, yeah, y'all pulled up, yeah. Y'all end up pulling up on me that night.
SPEAKER_02:But it was lit in that older. Now, if I'm thinking about it right, it was lit now. If I ain't tripping, but anyway, yeah. No, I was just I thought the opera's still open.
unknown:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I don't think we should go. I think we too old.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, they still got grown-up nights. Yeah, I'll still I go check out grown-up night after 30. I don't really like partying with them uh 20, them 20 year olds, no way no more. They jump around, they party too much. I used when I was younger, young V, I used to enjoy that. But even then, like I I do what I do now that when I do when I was younger. I'm not getting in the club doing all that moving around like y'all. I get somewhere and sit down and it's book a time, or you know, we just kicking the boa.
SPEAKER_03:You ain't getting two butt lights and taking your shirt off and bouncing to the club. Uh-huh. Uh wait, what happened? You ain't getting two butt lights and you're gonna hold them in one hand and you walk around with no shirt. I never, yeah. I don't really even get beard in the club. I think that's country.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Doing that. Yeah, I feel like you bring if you walk around with two bills in the club, you dangerous because you're doing that for for your own protection type shit. Absolutely, yeah. People don't just walk. If you walk around with two build uh two glass beer bottles, there's most of most likely you done drunk one of them, you just carrying that other one around corona.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah. When I when I if I'm in the club and I'm not in a section, which I don't go to the club no more like that. Yeah, and if I do, I'm usually in the section. Uh, but nah, if I go to the club and I'm in GP, I have two beers on me at all time. One to drink, one to one to crack ahead of me. I gotta be bro.
SPEAKER_02:You know, I go out by myself. Facts, but even then, I done told you that because you told me that little story this week. Only you and Ruby doing that crazy shit.
SPEAKER_03:Bro, I went and had dinner by myself at the zoo Friday night. He likes doing that dumb ass shit. I'm like, bro, I just went and got dinner.
SPEAKER_04:I did that last night.
SPEAKER_02:I just think both I think uh that's why I said I can only only y'all two can really do that. Just get up and just go eat dinner and then get in and get out. If I'm gonna go eat dinner somewhere, I'm gonna have to sit down. I'm gonna wanna drink, I'm gonna wanna just kick the bubble, or I'm just come on home, get my food and come on home if that's the case. That's what I do.
SPEAKER_04:What get my food and get the hell up out of there?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, so you ain't eat you ain't eating inside of there, it just depends. Depends on what yeah, no, that ain't never really been no eating inside if I'm by myself.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm gonna go in there, sit inside. Hell depend it depends on how I'm feeling. Sometimes I'll walk in the establishment and I'll look at the staff. And if the staff isn't pleasing, I'll just walk right back out.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that's real.
SPEAKER_03:That's why I went to the zoo. I knew I wouldn't have to worry about it oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:No, the zoo they're gonna have some lookers in there now. That's for sure. Rooster, what's your new year's looking like, Jack?
SPEAKER_04:So we was so we was we was we up. What the hell was that now because I gotta tell you about the after party? The worst stripper party I've been into in my life.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04:The worst stripper party.
SPEAKER_02:Worst ever?
SPEAKER_04:You know, they you know, strippers suck up here, they can't dance.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they can't take off their bottom.
SPEAKER_04:I go to Magic City, motherfucker hanging from the ceiling when we walk in there, motherfucker. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02:Doing a public house, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, what they do in New York, white white bitches say nothing, nothing.
SPEAKER_05:Go ahead, rule that tell me about the story, man. Me, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Oh man, um, so we so we so we was at a little club that was cool, but then we went to a little stripper party, got there by five, so I'm ready to go already, but I went driving, so we got there like five. We go up in there 5 a.m. Yeah, no either. Oh, but you didn't just sleep in the car. Huh?
SPEAKER_03:You didn't just sleep in the car.
SPEAKER_04:No, you know, I smoke booking now. Stay up now. That's the that's the spinach now. You know what I'm saying? We good.
SPEAKER_03:You know what I'm doing? If y'all take me to a stripper party at 5 a.m. You know what he's gonna say? People say shit, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Let's get around these skirts. That's what he's gonna say.
SPEAKER_02:He'll probably fall asleep on the ride over there, but then as soon as we jump it up, ready to go. So, yeah, that is triple enough. Yeah, that's and then and then if they terrible, that's when you'll leave, and then you'll want to see they good and terrible.
SPEAKER_04:Keep talking all loud. All right, so I got in there, they almost had me. So I got in there. I'll see everybody getting on. I'm like, man, I'm looking at all these hoes. I'm like, I was like, let me go get some ones. I'm gonna get 100 ones. Like, these bitches ain't shit. Let me get 100 ones, and I'm gonna go 10. Man, I was like, where you get the one from? Man, they don't took me over to the girl to set the party up. Like, you get the one from her. I was like, man, I'm straight, bro.
SPEAKER_03:I was like, I'm gonna say why you didn't get them because she was still gonna take her piece off the top.
SPEAKER_02:Like, oh no, that's for that's anyone, they you know that rude. Don't start acting like that.
SPEAKER_04:They ain't never they ain't never recycling one because we had we're not at a strip club, we had a stripper party.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, so they going and sweeping the ones up and then putting them back in the mix.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I like it. I like that. Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER_03:No, yeah, I ain't gonna do that. I like that. No, I want to accidentally throw five dollars trying to throw one because my shit's sticking together.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know, it was it was because it wasn't a strip club. This was a stripper party, like like I danced.
SPEAKER_02:It was like a house party for the most part.
SPEAKER_04:I'm pretty sure it was nigga with guns in there. That's how this shit was.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I thought okay.
SPEAKER_02:Well, no, I'm about to say, so that's so it was more of a house party vibe, room with the with the strippers in there, or was it just a stripper party? Huh?
SPEAKER_03:Hell y'all whispering about. Oh, I'll tell you after it. It it just it just didn't need to be said on here, but I needed to whisper for dramatic effect.
SPEAKER_04:Oh that's probably what he said, but uh but no, it was like a stripper party, but it was like a warehouse upstairs in a warehouse. Oh, I don't like that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't like that at all. I feel safe, yeah. I feel safe in the car asleep.
SPEAKER_04:No, that wouldn't happen to you out there.
SPEAKER_03:I I know I feel safe out there. That's that's the point I'm getting at.
SPEAKER_04:We was in Brownsville. No, I ain't gonna lie out there. I think it was in Brownsville. No, it was in Harlem, it was in Harlem. It was in Harlem.
SPEAKER_02:Brownsville, that's Brooklyn. That's uh Brooklyn.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I he don't understand what I'm saying. I feel safer. I know what's outside.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you'd have been in somebody in the car with the nose locked tight.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel safe.
SPEAKER_04:I know how much I know how much shattering it and on his chest and stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when shit goes crazy in that warehouse, I'm I'm stuck.
SPEAKER_04:You stuck in the car, yeah. I'm asleep. Yeah, I mean, yeah, gonna go a little quicker, yeah. When you sleep, you know why.
SPEAKER_02:PD, they they gonna be walking around somewhere though. I probably if you and Brownsville, they somewhere close.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's what I'm trying to outside. They somewhere close in Brownsville. I ain't gonna lie, I ain't gonna lie. The police that was in front of the stripper party, they were two black bitches, they were about this big. No, no cap. What they're gonna do, shoot somebody. That's what I said, but they can they're gonna knock you out before you can even reach to the uh well. My I was thinking, like, I was telling my partner, I'm like, Hey bro, I guarantee you they dirty. I just I just know it. Like, I just know it.
SPEAKER_02:Hey man, they that little extra money comes good in New York, I guess.
SPEAKER_03:It's expensive.
SPEAKER_02:Like you said, shit get expensive.
SPEAKER_03:It's eight dollars a gallon up there, and you know, you gotta like don't you gotta live in New York to be nypd? I don't know. You i i'm pretty sure maybe you can live in Jersey, but like you you it's only you can only live in certain counties because I looked it up.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, so you can't live in like like you couldn't live in like uh Philly or nothing and dry to New York.
SPEAKER_03:I I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I'm pretty sure you can't. Like it's okay, it's specific because I remember looking it up when he told me they started 95,000.
SPEAKER_02:I know that, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I was like, okay, so Rue slept on my couch for like six weeks, so I can stay on his couch for two months. Um, so 95. Okay, my disability. New York, okay. I can go find me some something. And then I was like, Do I really want to be a police in New York?
SPEAKER_02:Probably. In New York, probably. I ain't gonna because the way Ruby making this out that shit is sweet. It's like I ain't gonna say it's just super sweet, but I'm gonna say we're gonna be able to do it.
SPEAKER_03:They got niggas got poker stuff.
SPEAKER_02:I'm about to go, uh you got that fight in it's different.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, we gotta go to this file called Cakes, weed infused restaurant.
SPEAKER_03:Oh you said cakes, boy. I thought you talked about the club, baby.
SPEAKER_04:I'm about to show, I'm about to send it to you.
SPEAKER_03:I'm the baker's man. Screw who uh what who's who club is it?
SPEAKER_04:That's a weed, it's uh that's a restaurant.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, it's a restaurant. Oh uh, we need to get some earthy holes and take them.
SPEAKER_04:No, I don't hang out with them type of bitches.
SPEAKER_03:You know what I'm saying? Maybe a little dreadlock, do a little yoga, might have a little armpit. What the fuck is wrong with you? Might want to do a little yoga in Central Park. Nah, they wouldn't do the central park. They wouldn't do yoga in some random park in one of the biggest.
SPEAKER_04:They're gonna do the central park.
SPEAKER_03:Nah, I don't want one of them. I want one that do it like this random park that don't nobody know about because she's really in tune with the earth. She feels trapped in New York with all that concrete.
SPEAKER_04:Eric about new ass, bitch.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you know I'm lying. I don't want to be around.
SPEAKER_02:I was just gonna say who y'all talking about because y'all doing a lot. I don't know who y'all a woman who know who he's talking about.
SPEAKER_04:He's being funny.
SPEAKER_03:Oh hold on, y'all said I was talking about somebody specific. No, text who y'all who y'all think I'm talking about. Because I promise you I wasn't thinking about nobody. I ain't even got a text.
SPEAKER_01:I promise you I wasn't thinking about nobody when I said it. Yeah, you know. Oh, that ain't who I was talking about, Ruby. No, that's definitely not who I was talking about. Uh uh.
SPEAKER_02:Just type it in if you know I ain't good doing all that while I'm doing all that. But anyway, let's move on, man. Hell about well, no, I took my new year. My new year's I forgot my new year. We didn't ask about you. I don't give a fuck what you asked about. My new year's basic math, man. I didn't do too much. I had some kick it, a little drink, and was with the famos. I'm about to say Big Van. Uh uh, he had. I think Big Van starting his little um slow down, low-key fast type shit, where he ain't trying to drink so much this year. He done went. I want to say I think he done been since day seven. He done went had two two glasses, two liquor shots into the in seven days. So I'm proud of my dog for shows. Good for him. My dog slowing it down. That's for damn sure. But I will say, I don't know if I don't know how that's gonna work with the old Vista. Because I was thinking about slowing it down myself this year, but me too.
SPEAKER_03:I've I've been slowing it down so far. Uh drinking. Oh, yeah. I don't I ain't really doing that heavy drinking in 2026. God get bad, you know. When you just wake up in a room that you didn't know you was in at a time, I was just gonna say what you talking at a time after you were supposed to be up. Yeah, you know, hold on, get this off my darn feet. I ain't got no socks on. Well, the camera is doing its thing, and you know what? If somebody wants to see my feet, oh well. You know, some people have foot fetishes. You I we ain't talking about me.
SPEAKER_01:I don't have a foot fetter. I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:I got a homeboy, that boy. That boy hit me up. He was like, Boy, check he's like, Yeah, zoom in, like, check it out. That's how that's how you know a foot look good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you know a foot look good.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, hey, what you hey if he really him, if he sees a pair he likes, he go get he he go get him a picture. If you see a nice set of toes on on social media, you should go get your own personal picture.
SPEAKER_02:No, I mean, I'm not a foot guy, so I ain't gonna say I don't really get me off like that. I don't really feet don't do nothing for me.
SPEAKER_04:What I say, put no socks on, baby.
SPEAKER_02:That's it. No, yeah. I mean, I ain't really tripping.
SPEAKER_04:Oh god, no, don't put no socks on.
SPEAKER_02:See, that's what I'm saying. Say that's exactly what the hell I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03:We need to be we we need to be able to be one with the earth so we can get that, you know.
SPEAKER_02:You know, now I you know I agree with that grounding now. I'm with that good ground, but look, let's let's jump in. I uh y'all I want to talk about these almighty falcons. We we finished up on that four four game winning spree. Hold on one second. Uh uh well, you snap with that.
SPEAKER_05:I didn't know that was over there. That's it.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I'm rising up right now. If you could just understand how much blood I got rushing in my pants.
SPEAKER_02:Why? What the fuck?
SPEAKER_03:Falcons fired Rich McKay.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they give me wood. Let me ask you though. They got rid of Rich McKay, they got rid of they got rid of Terry, they got rid of Rahane. Are we gonna be a better team next week? Opinion based, just writing a quick answer. I gotta see who they hire. So you don't think just off just off what you see, and from what you see in the last four games, you don't think you can't give a pretty good one?
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I think we're gonna be a better team because um I think that unfortunately, Raheem Morris has some lessons to learn as a head coach that he needs to be a head coach to learn. But unfortunately, he was coaching my team, and he was coaching my team that hasn't been to the playoffs since like 2017. So um, and because we're getting rid of Rich McKay, who Rich McKay uh has a relationship with Raheem going back to Tampa Bay, and Rich McKay's been with the Falcons since like 04. Once Rich McKay goes, anything that he's touched needs to go. So because we got rid of him, I'm cool with Ra and Terry getting fired. When I first saw that they got fired, I was like, Bring them back because Rich is still here. Like the team is getting better. Raheem is learning how to be a head coach, he hasn't been a head coach in damn near 20 years. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a lot of stuff. So uh, but all in all, because Rich McKay's fired, I'm happy. Yeah, I look Rich McKay is fired, he's gone.
SPEAKER_02:So he's not about to say he didn't just take a step down.
SPEAKER_03:I thought he was just taking a step down from the well, he took a step down, that's what they reported. Yeah, but he got fired. He's still on well, he's still on pay. He's not the CEO of the A and B group anymore. I got you then. I got you, which means Rich McKay is out of the building, but again, he still gets a check, is what right? I don't care about his money. Uh oh, I care about his influence on the franchise, I don't pay him.
SPEAKER_02:Uh Duche.
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SPEAKER_02:That's the thing, is that's why I say it's just sometimes we've sitting over there. We and I can under I can agree with you on that. Author do, but that's why I say it's it it becomes a little bit of an issue with me because again, rich, and I'm trying to think of the right words to say rich.
SPEAKER_04:I gotta go, fellas. I'm sorry. You outhood.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm sorry. Where you going?
SPEAKER_04:I gotta go.
SPEAKER_02:Hey man, you in the middle of the show.
SPEAKER_04:I'm gonna hit you. I gotta go. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:I'm sorry. Can you say I'm sorry one more time, please?
SPEAKER_04:Why? So we can make fun of you.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, you just kept saying sorry. Like, you know. All right, real.
SPEAKER_02:We'll holla at you. No, I'm about to say, so I really feel like that whole Rich McKay thing. It's cool, but I don't really know how much. I don't really know. I don't really know how I like it. I don't really know how I like none of it, personally, my opinion. Just because again, I felt like we left.
SPEAKER_03:You wanted to keep Raheem another year, didn't you?
SPEAKER_02:I did. I did just because I wanted to see him with Kurt for a full season. And now, like I said, just seeing how seeing how we was all so big on Mike on uh Penix and trying to see that train, seeing how it was gonna run out, it was cool, but it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't these last four games I done seen. The last five games, hell for real, with uh that I done seen with with Kurt with Raheem with all of them running the show without the extra influences.
SPEAKER_03:But you know, I mean I think the team would have won more games, you know. I think we would have been fine just firing Zach Robinson personally. I mean, he's a big problem. But no, uh it's just a tough spot because we've been out of the playoffs for so long. So it's like, what do you do? And new always sounds better than running it back.
SPEAKER_02:That's a fact, though.
SPEAKER_03:Even when running it back may be better because you've seen the growth, you've seen like our defense was good this year. We got yeah, we got pressure on the pass rusher. B. John Robinson was a uh top uh all-purpose yards getter. You know what I mean? Like, we can move the ball, we have playmakers. Kyle Pitts showed back up, especially after uh uh Michael Pennings got hurt. So Kyle Pitts ain't the problem, it's been his quarterbacks because when Matt Ryan was there, his rookie year, he was good. Just back half of Kirk, he was good, you know what I mean? So, like I just think the organization needs a reset. They need a they need to flush out the old culture and create a new culture, and even if that new culture doesn't work, we just need something different. So I just understand getting rid of everybody, and yeah, it sucks.
SPEAKER_02:Well then, even with that, do you feel is even so we stay in football? Is do you feel like what you saying something like that same opinion? Do you feel like that harbor of uh fire? Do you feel like that got something to do with anything?
SPEAKER_03:Like doing the cleaning house, or do you think it's yeah, I mean, because they kind of got stagnant, yeah. And and maybe his voice was growing, you know, was was was getting old, and maybe him and Lamar aren't on the same page because you gotta remember this. Like John Harbaugh doesn't say much, but Jim Harbaugh is a big Catholic, conservative guy, you know, and and and I'm not saying that's problematic, but when you see how Lamar acts and carries himself, that doesn't always marry up with with with with the values that I've seen from Jim Harbaugh, because Jim Harbaugh even said like something about with abortions. Oh, yeah, no, we tell our players in Michigan, like, we'll adopt the kids, and it's like you feel that strongly about abortion, that's cool, but that can also tell me something about how you feel about your quarterback maybe having diamond teeth and and and and braids, and not saying that you have a problem with him as an individual, but there are just cultural differences to where y'all aren't connecting in a way that y'all may need to connect. So, I mean, Harbaugh's been there for like 18 years or something, he won a Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_02:Like, how long have you been in Baltimore though?
SPEAKER_03:I think like 18 years. He's been there for a minute.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, really?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no, I didn't and and and he's and he's getting interviews out the yin yang. Why? Because he's a good fucking coach.
SPEAKER_02:That's a fact.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like I hope we interview him.
SPEAKER_02:I do too, because it would the fact that we're trying to interview uh the Browns head coach or old head coach, it just You don't like that? No, why not? I feel like they I feel like he's one of the main reasons why the Browns weren't that good, personally.
SPEAKER_03:He's a he won coach of the year twice in six years.
SPEAKER_02:I can agree with that. They were loaded then too. They were loaded that uh which they picked up Deshaun Watson, got Nick Chubbs at that time. They had uh uh what's the receiver name? Um they they had a I can't think of that fucking receiver's name. Um they grabbed Miles Garrett, they got loaded with uh in that little time that he did come over there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I like his offense because it's a run play action offense, which I think we need. But I don't like him with quarterbacks. He didn't like Baker. Uh reports came out he didn't like Deshaun. That's what I was trying to say. Uh reports came out that he didn't want Shador drafted, and I mean that played itself out.
SPEAKER_02:He wanted Gabriel as the starting quarterback. Yeah, he sucks. Yeah, so it's like I said, it's just it's certain, it's different things.
SPEAKER_03:About him, and and what really what it boils down to is it seems like he wants his quarterback to be a certain way. And I don't want a coach who wants that because you can't always get the quarterback you want, and you need to be able to build your offense around what you have, even if you don't want this player on your team, but your GM, your own or whatever, they they draft this player because they're your bosses, then you need to put this player in the best position to be successful, and more importantly, this team in the best situation to be successful. And I'm afraid he's not that type of guy. That's a fact. And I I don't want that.
SPEAKER_02:Which, and I would say, if we even was to do like a one-year deal with him, because I feel like just and again, not going bouncing off what you said, which I know that five years is gonna be the but I'm saying if we was to give him like a one-year deal just to test him out and see how he would work or would look with Kurt Cousins, I feel him and Kurt would be great together, personally. Yes, like him and Kurt will look great together, however, the minute we would want to the minute Penix would get healthy and start looking good again in practice or whatever, whatever, I don't feel he would get the same shot that he deserved, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I I don't disagree with that, but I also know that unless the Falcons went in their heads and said, hey, this is a prove it deal, he wouldn't take the job. And also, what does that signal to the rest of the other interested coaches when Raheem got two years? Yeah, he wasn't great, but he was eight and nine both years and lost his quarterback, and he lost his quarterback both seasons. I mean, like, yeah, we under we underperformed, but Raheem really should have gotten fired. Like, and I and I've called for his job on on Washington winning, right? Like, but that was just a fan upset and seeing things I didn't like. But what I set back is like coaches need time to coach and learn and stuff. And and who's coaching the coach? You know what I mean? Like, who's making sure this head coach who hasn't been a head coach for a very long time is being coached up properly? And and some of that's on Raheem because of the staff he built. But like, I you know, uh Kevin Stefanski, I'm I'm good on that. Yeah, I really hope that the Steelers get their doors, huh?
SPEAKER_02:I couldn't think of his name. That's exactly what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I really hope the Steelers get the doors blown off of them and they make a stupid decision and fire Mike Tomlin.
SPEAKER_02:And Atlanta's like, hey, man, uh, you know, I've been saying that for a couple years. Mike ass ain't going nowhere. Mike going Mike, honestly, he's gonna he gonna retire a uh a Steeler. And that's it, and I know we don't get to say that much, but Mike, bro, he's solidified. He's he's winning with the fans want him gone though. Do they? I mean, yeah, do you really?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like I I talk to Steelers fans and they follow Steelers. Like, I know like apparently in Pittsburgh, the fans have been wanting him gone for a while because that whole getting to the playoffs and losing the first round, it's not good enough for them. They're a Super Bowl franchise. So if you're not delivering Super Bowls, we want you gone. And I'm like, I'm the Falcons. We're happy if we make the playoffs. You win at least nine games every year. Come on, nine games would have won our division, you know.
SPEAKER_02:That's a fact.
SPEAKER_03:You know, we were eight-nine too with the other two teams who could have won the division because you know, we lost to the Panthers twice and beat Tampa Bay once. And we beat Tampa Bay once, but we lost to them at home on pretty much a walk-off touchdown or a walk-off field goal. And you know, we lost to the Jets.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Then you know, like um we gave up the game against Indy and Germany. Yeah, uh, we gave up that game against uh the Patriots, too. Yeah, the the the here's the crazy thing, and here's why I can understand getting rid of everybody. The Falcons have been damn near good for the last five years. 7-10, 8-9. And like if you watch the games, you you've watched the Falcons lose these games because they know how to lose games, they don't know how to win. That's a fact. But I blame all that on Rich McKay because he's the only constant.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I don't know, bro. That's it's just like what you just said, though. That's a fact. We've been good for really the last six, seven years. Well, no, Desmond Ritter, I ain't gonna get at it. We'll take those.
SPEAKER_03:But no, even those years we were in game, we were going games and losing games on field goals of young way cool start missing.
SPEAKER_02:I personally don't think we could have won. I don't think we, and I don't want to say I'm I don't want to be buying. I don't think we win that the the division with Desmond Ritter, personally. I feel that year, it was just that was when they got Baker Mayfield. Uh that was when he came uh to Tampa Bay. That was when uh I think Bryce Young just got drafted in.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, Bryce Young's not a good NFL quarterback.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, he's not, but he beat us 30 to nothing. You see what I'm saying? So again, it's like I said, it's just certain, these are certain players that we had a chance to go grab. If that was the case, we fucking go grab Desmond Ritter, you know. So again, it's just it's certain things that just what you just said, the Rich McKay thing, the whole Terry thing. Like again, we love Mike, but much rather have Baker Mayfield in alone.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, me too. I I look here, I I will never defend Desmond Shitter. Uh I think he should be a PE coach, uh, you know, or uh maybe a college football coach, but I don't think he should be NFL quarterback. I didn't believe in him when he was our quarterback, and I thought it was absolutely insane that in his second year, we said, you know what, this guy we drafted in like the third, fourth round is gonna be the guy when Baker Mayfield was on the street, Sam Darnold was on the street. Like Sam Darnold got the number one siege. Baker Mayfield, this is his first year not winning the division since he's been in it, you know what I mean? Like, and he won as many games as a team that won the division, you know what I'm saying? So, like and we could tell Baker has been hurt for a minute this year because he was on my fantasy team and I saw how his production fell off.
SPEAKER_02:Man, fuck the Falcons, though. Yeah, what about Trey?
SPEAKER_03:Trey, Trey on the block.
SPEAKER_02:I'm ready. I'm ready for him to go. I love, yeah. If you know me, you know I love Trey, but this Jalen team now, man. I hate to say this Jalen team now, but did you see what he's been doing? She 30 and 10. Come on, but Annie, a big guard. We just look, and I hate to say it, we look so much better on defense when Trey's gone. We look fast, we look long, pause, we look like we we get to what we gotta get. We just look like a solid team.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and for for the foul for the Hawks, I hate it. I hate it because I love Trey. And I love Trey because during our Eastern Conference Finals run, I went to two playoff games. I was there, I saw his impact.
SPEAKER_02:Like Trey TL was real that time.
SPEAKER_03:It looks different in person than it does on TV. I mean, I sold my shirt after one of them games in the strip club, and security was like, Hey bro, you gotta put on a shirt. And I'm like, Hey big dog, I sold it. He was like, Hey bro, I'll fuck with you, but you can't do that again in here. I'm like, okay, you ain't gonna jersey. No, it was a t-shirt. I was with you. Was it cheetah? And you sold your shirt. Yes. Why the fuck did you do that? I don't remember that. I was like the nigga came up to me. He was like, Hey, bro, I really like that shirt because it was like an ATL ho shirt. I had just bought it for like$20 from um one of TJ's wife's friends. Shout out to Tamisha, and um and so I bought it over to the game, and buddy was like, I buy it off. He was like, How much you want? I was like, shit, 40.
SPEAKER_02:Right now, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Off my sweaty body, sold it to him for 40. And I and that's why I told security, I was like, hey bro, I paid 24. He wanted it for 40. I doubled it. And I only I just got it today. He was like, Nah, yeah, you had to.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'd have got rid of that motherfucker.
SPEAKER_03:That's what I like about Atlanta, though. There's an understanding of culture. And and and and nigga shit that everybody gets.
SPEAKER_02:I ain't no cap, I'd have got rid of that motherfucker too, though. I it's but yeah, even if it's just got made to yeah, I'm gonna get rid of that guy. Yeah, oh absolutely, yeah. I just double my money, yeah, for sure. Well, what tell me, what's this TR? What are you talking about? I don't want to do this without Ruth. Okay. Well, then what about Donnie McClurkin?
SPEAKER_03:Did you you ain't see it?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, you know I see it. That's why I said I didn't I didn't see the Will Smith, but well, okay. Well, Donnie, who can be this last month of the night?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so apparently um there was a guy. I I'm not gonna look up his name because it it's important to him and his family, but for our conversation, it's not important. He um read Donnie McClerkin's autobiography, and Donnie talked about how, you know, pretty much God delivered him from his gay disease. And and this guy, you know, I guess he identified with that, and he reached out to Donnie after, and they started a relationship, and he's pretty much said, you know, he was going to Donnie for mentorship, and Donnie was mentoring him all right. Paying him out, or was he making it?
SPEAKER_02:He just said he was he was sexually abused, and he was looking at it. I had heard so I had seen I had seen some little shit they kept saying that Donnie was telling him to pray the gay away, but then was coming in there and wearing him out. So again, that's why I said it's like that's the allegation. That's the allegation, true. I don't know, allegedly, yeah. But that's why I did. That's why I said I wanted Ruhea for that one. That's why I went and started the show with that one, but I didn't want to jump. I didn't want to jump.
SPEAKER_03:So, do you what do you think about this pray to gay away shit?
SPEAKER_02:It's ridiculous, personally. It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_03:Now, don't get me wrong. I think that if you don't have a relationship with God and it's introduced to you in a certain way, that that could lead you away from from being homosexual, right? Especially if you get one of these old preachers who say if you're gay, you'll go to hell, and you're one of those people who don't have a soul, and and you just throw yourself into whatever you're into. That's what you're into. You probably won't be gay anymore because you're so deep into this, right? But I also don't think that person, if they uh if I think that person is like living gay, they're not actually gay, they're just over there because they're accepting, they're seeking acceptance. But yeah, my nigga, I don't think you can pray gay away.
SPEAKER_02:That's where I was going, and again, I hear I hear everything you said, and I and I I'm listening. But personally, me, if you gay, you gay. It ain't nothing somebody can sit up here and keep praying to nobody about if that's how you want to live, or if that's how you, you know, a lot of folks say they was born like this way. If you were born this way, or if you got those type of vibes, ain't no praying gonna do nothing. Ain't nobody because again, it's like I say, at this point, NAS gonna feel like just like most of the man, I'm trying to think of the right words again without how most of younger people feel when they come to church, they get judged just based off what it is. So it's like that's how I feel or would look on I guess the back end for homosexuals to get the same thing to get told to pray the gay or a little shit like that, I guess.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like I I worked with a guy and he's gay, he's never been with a woman. Uh, he had girlfriends when he was young, you know, because that's what he was supposed to do. But when he finally came out of the closet, he told his parents, and he was scared as fuck. And his mom was like, Yeah, we all we always knew.
SPEAKER_02:You all, I mean, uh, really, you gonna know you.
SPEAKER_03:Because he said that he was born gay. He was like, he was like, Yeah, I was never in the woman, I was always in the dudes. And that was the first time I accepted that argument because it I didn't accept it at first because not because I I don't think people can be gay. I don't I I don't think every gay person's been sexually assaulted. It wasn't none of that ignorant stuff, it's just like hey, naturally you're not like you're not naturally gay because you can't reproduce, like scientifically, like you can't reproduce if you're gay. So, like, how can you be like born gay, right? But I never talked to anybody who had expressed it in that way, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02:So, with me, I I I can totally agree with that to a certain extent, because again, with me, I've been around like gay guys my whole life. Like, I got cousins that's gay, I got friends, you know, I got friends, real life friends that I grew up with that they were always, I guess, feminine, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:But bro, and we can say this name, I don't even think because it's not even being shady, like niggas knew Adam was gay when we like like respect, like like and and like again, we're not knocking people for being gay, but just to make it real, is like when he decided to actually openly go down that route, it's like, yeah, we thought that, but it didn't change how I felt about you, like and even then, like it's always cool.
SPEAKER_02:You can even go, you can even go further, like with me. I can because again, I can I can name the Adams or like or the Dustin Garnigan. Like, I can tell you Dustin Garnigan, that's a guy that I rule respect with my whole heart, just because again, like one Mount Zion Boys and Girls Club, like these are people that help grow me, you know what I'm saying? Like, help when my parents was at work, these the ones that was watching me. You feel me? So, you know, so again, it's like I said, is with all the extra stuff, I'm not entertaining that. So, again, it's like I said, with all that, they just like those are guys that I knew were like that, but I knew they had girlfriends, I knew they had whatever they was interested in. If they tried it out, whatever, but I always knew if that's the route they took, it ain't never gonna be where they can go to church every week and say, Oh, Pastor, please pray this out of me. Oh, hey, parents, y'all, this is what you are. If this is how you are, it is what it is.
SPEAKER_03:You know the cool thing though about like being around uh having those experiences.
SPEAKER_02:What's that?
SPEAKER_03:Is that you also learn like the respect that that gay people have because it's assumed in straight homophobic world that gay dudes aren't respectful, and it's like, I don't want that nigga looking at me, bro. I might be bro, you're not as tight.
SPEAKER_02:Come on, man. Listen to that. Let's do the thing, it'd just be you know, it most of the time when that happened, I feel like sometimes guys be wanting that attention for real, for real. Unless, unless it's just like point per, like we've just got to be.
SPEAKER_03:There are lines that have been crossed. Like, like I told you, I've told you privately, but like I've been at a bar talking to just sitting talking to a random dude, and like motherfucker touched me, and I'm like, hey bro, don't touch me. Like, like, like it wasn't even like a sexual touch, but he touched, he put, he just put his hand, hey bro, I don't know. You don't put your hands on me. And you know, I stopped laughing, joking, like it's serious. And then he do one of these. Bruh, I had a bill, it's probably this big. I had just bought it, and the bartender was catching what was going on. I said, Hey, you close me out. Took that bill, deep throated it. Straight new cupbook.
SPEAKER_00:I turned that tall boy up. Oh, new cupboard straight to the new cupboard right now, right? You're going to trail now, right?
SPEAKER_03:And as I'm walking out the bar, uh it was it was my bar in San Diego. It was upstairs. And it wasn't Miss Rachel, she wasn't there though. But like the bartender, she meets me, uh, because they had like a bar, a bar entrance right there, uh, by the steps. So as I'm going uh out to go down the steps, she meets me. She's like, hey, I'm so sorry. He's really drunk. I'm like, hey, you did nothing wrong. Yeah. I was like, I just get it. I mean, she still got she still got a decent tip. Now, you didn't get like me sitting here all day, too, because you only poured me one beer. But like, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna make this right. You did nothing wrong, lady. This man is into something that I'm not into. Again, you can shoot your shot. You can you can you can say one thing, but when I say no, cross over. I get it. I get it. And I say that to say that when you've if you've been in a situation like that or you've just been around like gay dudes that you weren't related to, and and you actually talk to them, shit, talk to them, and and you say some homophobic shit, bro, they would like they would check you respectfully, but like let you it like really let you know they mind because you can start asking questions and having a conversation of like, hey bro, I'm about to say some real ignorant shit. Like, make me smarter, but I want to say this ignorant shit because this is what I truly think. I I I want to be told, I want to be taught differently, you know what I mean? But it's hard for a lot of people to do that because I don't know, but excuse me. Is that a bird? What the fuck is it? Oh man. But before we go though, the preacher doing it. You know what I mean? The preacher who professed that he had been delivered from his gay disease, quote unquote, right? Allegedly. Somebody who's also struggling with, you know, these feelings and feel that they're wrong and wants to get away from it, right? And we can take it away from homosexuality. It's like, hey, you are going to uh a religious official who you respect who went through something you went through and you're asking them how they got through it. And for them to then take that same thing and then use that against you because yes, you're weak. You know what I mean? Obviously, you can't make up your mind for yourself because you're asking the gay to be prayed away. You either just aren't gay or you are gay and you accept what comes with being gay because it's your life and it makes you happy. You know what I'm saying? What are your thoughts on that? Like, is that why niggas don't go to church and don't trust like that's where we went back to the blue because you know, I'm a church going nigga, and I see all the bullshit in the church, but I block that out and and and do my, you know what I'm saying? But like you're a nigga who would go to church and didn't have to go to church, and you're now a nigga who doesn't go to church, which says there's a reason why you don't go to church. And I'm not saying that from a judgment piece, but like really like talk about, you know what I'm saying? Like why you're somebody who would voluntarily go to then being somebody well when you could go, you wasn't thinking about going.
SPEAKER_02:What I said earlier. It's like a if you like when I would come in, being just me, I ain't gonna say nobody else. Me personally, when I would come in, I always feel like I would be judged. I would be judged behind everything that was going on. Rather, people knew, and I'll say I'd be open. If people knew I smoked weed, people knew I hung with certain people, if they knew I had X, Y, and Z girlfriends, if they knew I was whatever. It can be a little bit of anything. It's just I'm one of those guys, I get socially awkward anyway when it's in big crowds with people that I know but don't know for real. Like you know my name, you know my face, you know of me, you don't know me. You get what I'm saying? So it's like when you have your own judgment before you actually take a chance to even meet me, when you already preset what you think of me, that's what always set my whole line with church. And I feel like I say, with the pastors, Reverend Lampley, I love him to death. That's one past that I can say if if I was still heavy in church and I was still in that vibe, I would go to I would go to Mount Zion just for uh Lamp. Just because like I said, Lemp ever since day one when Christmas on the Hill was here, like Grammy would make me and Lamp go and have conversations, just just because you know I'm saying, just to open them up and have certain conversations behind shit, I guess, with church and with real life, because Lamp, one thing I can say, Lemp before he found Christ real, he was one of us. And that's one thing, and that's the reason why I can say I respect his story a lot faster than I can respect people who ain't never really been through too much.
SPEAKER_03:So that's one of the reasons why I rock with Lamp, and me and Lamp have a very interesting relationship, and it's honestly a relationship a lot of people don't know about because he was my youth pastor, he was my Bible study teacher, my Sunday school teacher. So we spent a lot of time together and like sparring, and as a nigga who was going through like puberty and shit and being childish, and like, bro, I'm cracking jokes on this nigga, and like he already understands, bro, these are young, young niggas, like immature as hell, insecure, trying to find their ego, you know what I mean? And he understood how to hey that nigga might shoot back. You might win, you might lose, you know what I'm saying? But like it's still man stuff in there, and then even like private conversations we've had. I mean, dude, when I was in college, I started struggling with the whole Christian religion thing. And it's still a struggle I deal with like now because I go, I hear what you're teaching me, and the lessons and the way you tell me to live, A1 solid. You know what I mean? Like, I think the lessons in the Bible are good lessons. But I also think the lessons of most excuse me religions, the lessons are good lessons. Like if you just look at what they like the way they tell you to live, pretty much the same.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. And every and that's that's kind of in every book, though. Yeah, and every way you look at it.
SPEAKER_03:And so I was like, yo, dog, if God is who he says he is, you mean to tell me he's gonna send a Buddhist to hell who live right, but didn't wasn't exposed to God or Christianity at all, or not exposed to it first. So you he rejected it because the people who loved him ingrained this into him, but then you got a nigga who says he believes in Jesus. I ain't saying you don't believe in Jesus, but you're not living a Jesus-like life, you know what I'm saying? But this other person is living more like Jesus than you are, but they don't say Jesus, they say something else, so now you don't get to get eternal life, and they got to get it. That don't that don't make sense to me, you know what I'm saying? And I won't disclose how that conversation went. Mind you, this conversation was 15 years ago, but there were some things that stuck with me that just let me know what type of human being he is, what type of pastor he is. Like, he ain't just a nigga that's just gonna go up there and I refer to him as a nigga, but like I know what you're saying. But like he ain't gonna just go up there and just necessarily just say what the crowd wanna hear and all of that. Like, you can he's somebody you can talk to privately and and really just yeah, like you say, he's one of us.
SPEAKER_02:And like just just really most of the time. This is gonna be this is gonna really be more my last part on saying with this is well exactly what you said. I've I questioned a bunch of stuff when I was growing up, and I ended up getting into a bunch of like before I joined Mount Zion. The reason why I came to Mount Zion for real was because I got into a not a heated debate, but it was like I got into a little debate with one of the dinkins at my granddad's church or whatever, just because it was like they would always preach that God He wanted you to be X, Y, and Z. He wanted you to have to live a certain way and do this and do that. But purpose, like personally, me, I've always read certain stories that in this my this is what I interpreted from the Bible. God hung with thieves, robbers, rapists, uh the worst of the worst, and he still didn't judge none of them. You get what I'm saying? So when I look at how he lived and then how the stories of him is, but then when I come back and I see how church people treat people inside of the church, it started showing me that everything is played with a contradiction, and that's that's where my that's where my ego trip comes in with me.
SPEAKER_03:So I ain't gonna hold you. One of the reasons why I really rock with my daddy, uh, shout out to my dad, his birthday was yesterday. Happy birthday, happy birthday, Pops, love you. Um is yeah, he's a pastor, but he's with the people, like even in his pastoring. Like, bro, I remember one time I was in New Orleans dog, we had to go out on a Saturday and evangelize in the street. We just in the middle of the hood, and niggas out here preaching, passing out stuff in people's houses and doing all, but but like it, you're taking it outside of the church, and like when if my daddy needs some work done on a car that he ain't gonna do, he ain't necessarily well, he's not going to the dealership. He going oh, you know what I'm saying, around the corner, the nigga who work on cars.
SPEAKER_02:Daryl, come on over there, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly. But I got you, and you it might be anything going over there, but like everybody cleaned up when the pastor comes and cleaned the language when the pastor comes, the pastor comes now because the pastor he he nigga he in the streets.
SPEAKER_02:Pastor know what's going on. He ain't finna come in here and judge and that he just gotta get some work done. He ain't just in the church, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That nigga damn this damn the nigga Sam man. He he listen, bro, he still likes listens to some hip hop music, listens to RB, just because he like, I gotta know what I gotta know what my people are listening to. I gotta know what they're I because I can't. If if I just stay on all this this this this church stuff, I won't be able to feel like that. I can't talk to you because and I think a lot of church people, not just preachers, but church people, they get so caught up on this church shit, they forget about the God shit. You know what I mean? And I know some of y'all might hear this and and not like me curse when I'm talking about God, but see, that's that's the problem. That's the church nigga shit can be because now y'all taking these earthly words and putting these different meanings on them. But see, when I talk to God, we have a personal relationship. And if you understand your personal relationship with God, that means he understands you as a person. So when you speak to him and you speak about him, you may not use the words that other people like, but God, God is the only one that judges you, right? That's the only person who's supposed to judge. So if that nigga knows what I mean when I'm saying, Hey, God, that's my nigga. Hey, I when I was talking to that nigga Jesus the other day, I will uh uh and you you ain't gotta like it. You nigga, I ain't gotta church. You ain't gotta listen to me talk, but see, because I ain't talking to you, I'm talking to him. So if I'm talking to him and he can receive it, but you can't receive it. Why the fuck should I come to your church?
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SPEAKER_03:But God wants us to go to church, church niggas be better, and 2026 church niggas be better, man. Village Vets, we out of here, out of here, baby.
SPEAKER_01:Vets I was solid.
SPEAKER_03:Let me press and strain shit. You still
