Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee

Village Vets: When Belief Becomes Big Business

A.C. Lee

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A late start, a lot of laughter—and then straight to the heart of it. Culture keeps changing, but the receipts don’t. We walk into a sneaker convention expecting grails and story-rich classics, only to find last-week releases wearing heavyweight price tags. That disconnect between old-school collecting and hype-driven flipping sets the tone for the night: what happens when community turns into a marketplace and nostalgia runs into the algorithm?

From there, we tackle a prickly question with zero varnish: why do Black men date outside their race? No viral shortcuts, no grand theories—just reality. Attraction sparks it, proximity shapes it, and money and stability complicate it. Case by case, preference is real and context matters.

The conversation pivots through sports media and performance—Stephen A. Smith as swagger, symbol, and spectacle—before taking its sharpest turn of the night. **Druski’s church skit opens the door to a deeper look at the mega-church money machine. We break down Joel Osteen’s stadium-sized operation to unpack nonprofit status, tithes, accountability, and power—pastors as unregistered politicians, faith as a business model, and the tax code as a quiet stagehand.

That scrutiny extends to entertainment power, too. Tyler Perry’s Atlanta studio—Hollywood-scale ownership on Southern soil—becomes a case study in opportunity, leverage, and backlash when you build a city within a city and rent your White House set to the biggest films in the world.

We close on home turf with the Atlanta Hawks and Atlanta Falcons. Are the Hawks finally building a defensive identity that sticks? Can Atlanta attract and keep the right stars? And with Matt Ryan stepping into leadership, will the Falcons find steady direction—or just nostalgia in a suit? We even cast our vote for Mike Tomlin’s tone-setting over flash.

We wrap with Black History Expo plans and a throwback party vibe. Tap play, share it with a friend, and tell us your take. If this episode made you laugh or hit a nerve, subscribe, rate, and drop a review—we’re building this with you.

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Late Start, Aliases, And Banter

SPEAKER_04

He's got a cool ass alias he comes. Alias, because his alias should have been there a long time ago. I got off the phone with him.

SPEAKER_00

First time when he sent you that text.

Papoose, Remy Ma, And Early 2000s Rap

SPEAKER_04

When I put the link on, it was 818. Hell it was 851. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm still on the highway. So yeah, that means something. Rue said he had to he had to get his stuff together. So he said he was cocoa butter enough. So I get it. But I I I don't need to hear about the man cocoa buttering up before he gets on camera. What do you say? Yeah, he cocoa butter up. That makes me slightly uncomfortable. I'm just telling what he said. Well I hope he he he's clothed it up because I don't I hope he's talking about his knuckles. No, Rugo, he's gonna he don't he don't get on uh he ain't gonna be on camera with with it without at least two, three layers on. He's gonna be all right. Yeah, because if he just came here with like trying to show off his cocoa butter and stuff, he's gonna be fine. He's gonna be fine. I might have to ban him from no man he's gonna today. He I can't tell you his alias. They almost said it. Well yeah, his alias is gonna be pretty hard today. That's what that's just what he told me. So I said I was like, hey man, you can't beat that. What are your thoughts on that latest papoose record? What? Latest papoose record?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't heard nobody. I ain't heard it.

unknown

Oh, me neither.

SPEAKER_02

So I'm saying I'm gonna say, no, I ain't I ain't even checking with papoose.

SPEAKER_05

I ain't really been checking ever. No, because he had that he had that one song. I ain't gonna play. He had that one song when him and uh what song was he on?

SPEAKER_04

I think it was on the Jay Z, not a Jay-Z song, uh The Buster Rhymes Touch It Remix, nigga. No, no, yeah, that might be it though.

SPEAKER_02

I knew it was a good verse though.

SPEAKER_04

It wasn't the most, but he had a good song. Sure.

SPEAKER_00

He's more famous for his women.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and it's really Remy and Clarissa. Old fighting Russell. If you had a chance, uh huh. If you could set that fight. No. You wouldn't put no, you wouldn't put Remy and Molly get a hand.

SPEAKER_05

I'm saying, if it's no, like I'm talking about no, no, no boxing gloves, no nothing. If we get in the street and we going hand.

SPEAKER_04

Remy Ma's could have had a good shot. No. Yeah. No, but I'm saying, if you still got to remember, Remy did, what was it, 18 years? No, she did a year. I know she did it. I don't know what she did before. I know she did that year or whatever she did. Remy did a bunch of technology.

SPEAKER_02

I don't care about Remy Mom. I think she can must say, I think she'll do her thing. She ain't gonna she's gonna let Teresa just punch her line, I don't think.

SPEAKER_00

Oh to the E.

SPEAKER_02

She's gonna end up poking uh. Yeah, that's that's all I know about it. Yeah, like a voice of deep. That was made a fine meet up. I ain't gonna tell you no lie.

SPEAKER_04

But I think the early 2000s, I had a thing with women with deep voices for some reason.

unknown

I don't know why.

SPEAKER_04

That's legit, it's legit. If you check my record, it's legit, it was child trauma with it, uncle.

SPEAKER_05

No, it's like I kind of like that aggressive stuff back then. That was me. I mean, I don't know why. I don't hate the old, you know, I ain't gonna say a New Yorker, but they talk like them the Southern girls that had deep voices, they remind me of them New Yorkers.

SPEAKER_00

Oh this should only be one deep voice in this house.

SPEAKER_04

Nah, nah, hell no. But then again, I like when we go back and forth. We don't know who's who. That's the thing. No, I want a fool, I I want I want a fool to know the difference. No, sometimes you gotta, you know, you gotta assert dominance, and we can both have the same voice becoming that. No, we can assert dominance. I mean by we, I mean me.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, everybody gotta be able to. You have to you can voice yourself, you can speak, yeah. Absolutely. You can be heard, understood. But now you can't assert your dominance.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05

That kind of that kind of what what made me want to lead in the first part of the day. That's a max.

SPEAKER_00

Well, why would you no? We was going, don't don't transition out of that. No, but let's blow, don't transition. That's still gonna be the same thing. But actually, but just start talking about it. You don't don't set it up. It was already set up. Oh hell, couldn't ruin. You got them shifting gears and and and uh and they and they hitting on the clutch right.

SPEAKER_04

What's up, hood? Max bigger bear. Oh dang, hold on. Dw.

SPEAKER_02

I'm I'm shit. What's up, bigger bear? Yeah. What's up, hood? That's all where you at? At the house. You doing the show with McConnell? Yeah, y'all rushing me. Yeah. I rushing you.

SPEAKER_01

I when I sent you the link, I said we got off the phone time I send you the link, I'll be ready.

SPEAKER_04

I felt that was rushing you. That was at 818. I felt that was rushing me.

SPEAKER_00

I don't how can it be rushing you when the show's supposed to start at 8?

SPEAKER_03

It's all good. What work, man? Man, you tell me, man. You tell me. A C talking about he's trying to have a party, that's what I hear.

SPEAKER_00

A C's not trying to have a party.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the uh fucking podcast wow village veteran right now you coming back for that I'll come back for that.

SPEAKER_04

I'll tell you I ain't gonna tell you that you told me you was dumb. You said you was dumb. We do that if we do if we do that, nigga.

unknown

That's on that business. I'll come with that.

SPEAKER_04

You wanna count the money? Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I'll come for that and lead it and leave the next day.

SPEAKER_04

You get a morning flight, you're gonna take the evening. The morning, the first flight out. God oh my. But what's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_02

The vehicle wanna see you, Ruth.

Sneaker Convention Expectations Vs Reality

SPEAKER_04

You pop in just for three, four hours. The bill ain't gonna get to get holler at you like that. I gotta get back to the city, man. I gotta get back to the city. What's been going on, man? Tim about your week. Uh I went to the Snickers convention Saturday. That's really about it. Say the Snickers convention.

SPEAKER_03

No, not the Snickers convention, nigga. Hungry ass nigga. What wait? Well, that would be nice though to go to a Snickers convention and see what all type of Snickers they got in there.

SPEAKER_04

That's a problem.

SPEAKER_03

I ain't had that one. I ain't make the screen bigger. I'm talking about my hand.

SPEAKER_04

You mean like like like this? Full screen. Not bigger, full screen. I don't know. I'm only saying I don't know because of the.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, there we go.

SPEAKER_04

There we go. There we go.

SPEAKER_06

What'd you get at that sneakers convention? Well, let's let's rewind. Let's, you know, let's let's rewind. I got something to say, you know. Cause I really because like I said, like when I walked in there, I was looking at everybody.

SPEAKER_03

Like I would tell you, I'm like, man, the shoe game won't change that. See, like, I don't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_04

Like Aiden Ross and academics, and that's the shoe game, baby.

SPEAKER_03

Like, because I like like I like I was telling nigga at the commissioner, like, I'm really from the old school when it comes to this shit.

SPEAKER_06

Like, you know, I'm just being for real, man. What you mean by that? Man, BJ look here. We were ordering out the East Bay on COD. And then we were paying to the house.

SPEAKER_02

They blew up right into the house and that little man B, come on. I get it, I get it. I get it. We were doing what they were doing though, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Just I was expected to see some classic. I ain't gonna say classic Nikes, but classic every shoe, not just Nikes. But I was specifically looking for some classic Nikes. What kind? No, some some classic Jordan, some classic Air Maxes, something. Something, you know, I would have been nice to have some huh?

SPEAKER_04

Something classic that catches your eye.

SPEAKER_06

Man, I see uh one shoe caught my eye, but he had like a nine. I was like, bro, you bring this shoe in here. And uh what was it? The Bo Jackson, the trainer.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't nobody wear no nine.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I can wear that.

SPEAKER_03

But it wear nine? Damn. Nine and a half. That ain't that's where it started getting, that's where it started getting different though, like nine and a half.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I went nine and a half.

SPEAKER_06

But nah, yeah, they they they just you know, you you told me to look for some wolf grays for you. I ain't seen out one pair.

SPEAKER_04

I want the wolf grays and the metallic fives. They had them in there now. You said they didn't have you said you weren't looking for me.

SPEAKER_06

No, I said they had the five, the metallic fives.

SPEAKER_04

But you said you weren't looking for me once you said they didn't have your size, remember?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and they were five hundred. Exactly what you said, and they and they were five hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_06

The metallic bull, yeah. Uh that was the cheapest. One dude, the cheapest was five. One dude wanted like seven, six, like they would have yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Wow, for free. Well, the shoe, the the gamble was the shoe in there though. Like, I guess that's what niggas was wanting.

SPEAKER_04

Like gamma always been trash to me.

SPEAKER_03

No, that motherfucker, when that motherfucker, I looked at that display.

SPEAKER_04

I said, damn, that motherfucker hard though, but I'm you know gamble the first time they came. I just ain't even broken them in college.

SPEAKER_06

I don't like that.

SPEAKER_05

I couldn't never get off on the line. I just didn't like that black and uh that patent leather and baby blue, it shit just didn't hit right with me.

SPEAKER_04

It's gamble. I can't kept you was a southern and you were gambling.

SPEAKER_06

But that was that was probably the most shoe I seen. That one.

SPEAKER_04

That was different too, right? It sounded like some hype bees.

SPEAKER_00

Uh they came out last week. They came out last week. Yeah, yeah, it's not like the dweebs who like go get the sneakers because they come out versus people who are looking for a specific sneaker.

SPEAKER_06

No, they go get them to reset, they go get them to resell them.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's a miracle.

SPEAKER_04

You know, we gotta go, we gotta go charge you for every single thing and and ruin the phone. Yeah, the border system sex agent on representation, so miracle formed. Well, we ain't got it. We got we got one, we ain't got the. But if we can start throwing T into the goddamn hall, we gonna get shot.

SPEAKER_03

But but yeah, I came out of there with some heat. We got a pair of shadow teens like on Martin and uh some retro 20s.

SPEAKER_04

What'd he say on Mark?

SPEAKER_02

For a hundred dollars, you probably get one of these.

SPEAKER_06

He said you might get one shoe for a hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_02

You might you ain't gonna get both of them. We might get one. Yeah. I mean, look what's been going on. Tell about your week.

SPEAKER_04

Man, they got them working. Shit. You didn't work Friday and Saturday. What I do Friday. Uh I didn't do nothing. I was playing a game with Ruin Captain on Friday. What was your Saturday then? Watch football. Uh cleaned up a little bit, did some laundry. You know, clean up the dog area, you know, wipe down some walls, some cabinets. I was excuse me.

SPEAKER_03

I said, wipe me down. I was singing a song my bad.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, is that my boosty badass? No, I was saying that's my webby. Oh, okay. Um what up? But yeah, nah. Oh, I went to um catching the zoo this week. Nah, it was it was sprangling out. I was gonna ride down there, but it was sprangling then. Uh Agent Rodgers called me to play the game and I said, you know what? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, homie, don't be saying my name.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so uh, yeah, I played the game. I didn't go out to the zoo.

SPEAKER_04

I thought about it. I did think about going in there to see some of them animals. So then what told them what? Animals? What kind of animals? Well, I'm looking for I'm looking for the ones, you know, the fact that the case.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, you looking for you looking you looking for a cheetah, nice figure. But you wouldn't saw, but you wouldn't start a C line.

SPEAKER_00

No, because see, I go in there to talk to the staff.

SPEAKER_04

They've got the cold staff workers in there now. Can't even play with them. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I I can't rely on the top that's in there. I know what's gonna be there, you know what I mean? But yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Bring it in then, AC, since we can start. No, no, I but I I didn't know which direction you were going. I was just saying you could have just started the topic instead of saying, Hey, but let's take us into the first topic to go on into the first topic.

SPEAKER_05

No, yeah, because Rue wasn't even here. We had to bring him in. Oh, I could have done this later. No, it didn't fail. We done been here. Rooster had to get his come get his rocks off.

unknown

Come on.

SPEAKER_05

So, Rooster, let me ask you this. Big revenge. He did, I get it.

SPEAKER_04

Rue, let me ask you a quick question. What up though? Why do you think black men date outside their race? Oh no, I got a video to play for that. Oh, we're gonna play that one first.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Why do black men date outside their race? Yeah, don't answer. Yeah, I'm gonna let I wanna let this this woman tell why, and then then we respond to it. Nah, Steve Smith VSP, here we go. I think people look too I think people look in too deep into that.

Sizing, Prices, And Hype Culture

SPEAKER_03

Hold on, listen. Listen to what you're doing.

SPEAKER_04

I couldn't hear shit.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, long story short, she was uh saying words to the effect that um one of the biggest reasons that black men date uh other women is because all the women in the world love black men.

SPEAKER_03

Why can't we just the bitch look good and let's just keep it at that? Don't want to and just stop right there. What's wrong with that?

SPEAKER_00

Uh because when when when people think about, you know right, that's about that.

SPEAKER_03

I think that'd be people's problem, like trying to figure something out that ain't nothing there to figure out. Like she looked good, and it is as simple as that.

SPEAKER_00

Because families and families used to not be like be like that. They were arranged, and it was about uh strengthening the family and preserving the bloodline and adding to the family. So uh you start you start from a place of building a family versus finding a mate, then society changed and it became finding a mate, and there are a lot of people who still have those those desires that you marry to strengthen your family.

SPEAKER_05

I mean I feel like I mean it's true.

SPEAKER_04

But what that's like that's jumping. I was like, we just dating. That ain't trying, we ain't trying to start no family. I'm just dating, is it? I mean, most people, the bitch gotta look good, right? I mean, depends on that look good.

SPEAKER_06

She got some bread, if she got a little bumble back there, you would make it if she got some bread, she look good.

SPEAKER_04

You said so many. But I'm saying if she got a little bread, then that ain't that can change up a lot of stuff. She ain't gotta be just fine. She ain't gotta be, you know, she can be 220 something. If she got some bread, that might change up a bunch of stuff.

SPEAKER_05

She still looks good, she got some bread. Yeah, I mean, you may you got shallow.

SPEAKER_04

So I said about say for me, if you know, if it comes like that, hey man, sometimes you gotta make exceptions on it. Personally, that's me. Can't nobody just have the 220. How old did you say 220? What we talking about? I'm saying, but I'm saying the girl, I'm missing with a girl. She damn near 205, she weighed as much as I did. Yeah, see, I don't want no, I don't I'm I don't want that. I'm not saying it's not attractive. I'm saying it's yeah, yeah, that's cool. You six five, I'm 5'11. I mean she was about 6'3. What am I gonna do with something six three? So ain't Kevin Hartwright calling him.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, he's a midget. Excuse me, a short person. But she got it, she got him by. You can't call him in no more. Huh?

SPEAKER_03

You can't call him midges no more can you.

SPEAKER_04

No, I think I call them like little people or something. I I people the M word is not tolerated.

unknown

Oh god.

SPEAKER_04

But so I'm gonna have you believe what's is that your is that your opinion on that? Man, I think it's a combination of things.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's some of it is like what Rue is saying, like, bro, it's not even that deep. Like, so for some people it's I'm attracted to you, you're attracted to me, we start dating and then we go from there and it turns and it could turn into something. Uh, I think for some people it's proximity, like who are you around? You know what I mean? Like, there are more black men who marry inside of their race than outside of their race. It's just the black men that we see more often aren't married to women inside of their race, but also how many women are inside of their race are they around as peers? You know what I mean? Like they talk about the the football players. Oh, you how many white girls? Have you been to a big college campus man?

SPEAKER_01

What's you know what I mean? Like, even if you even if you and the black girls, bro, like you may just get involved with this white chick because they're there. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04

You done spent four years right around the same person the whole time. Yeah, that makes a bunch of sense.

SPEAKER_00

And then also, yeah, bro, like I done I've been out in the country before. I I see how we're treated. So I think shit, nigga, I can't say how shit I'm here outside my race.

SPEAKER_04

So you do feel like that that whole little stance is for the most part, it is accurate.

SPEAKER_00

It's just whatever you want. It's opinion-based because everybody is different, and everybody goes into these things with look looking for something different. So to try to generalize why people make certain decisions, yes, you get good enough people to get some type of understanding, but even if you get a larger understanding, it doesn't describe why each person made those decisions.

SPEAKER_03

So case by case, this is a case by case scenario. For the most part, yeah. But I think 90% of the cases, hey man, she looks good.

SPEAKER_00

Nah, I think 90 is a high number for that.

SPEAKER_03

You say 95.

SPEAKER_05

I'm personally saying it's gonna be 50, she look good. And my other my other 50 is she got some bread or she got some. Because again, if she's not just overall drop dead, fine, whoop-de-woop. Personally, me is gonna like you, you I guess you can eventually find something that y'all got in common, but if after all, if it's not that and y'all ain't trying to work for that, it's he's gotta be fine, you gotta ask money.

SPEAKER_04

Personally, me just being real, 50-50, I guess. On my end.

SPEAKER_03

What what a oh do people date? I mean, yeah, that's that's what it is. That's what you that's what you that's what gets your attention, ain't it? Damn, she looked good. Don't nobody say, damn, she looked good. I wonder what her personality like.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know nobody that's gonna say that.

SPEAKER_03

If they do say that, you know, then now we looking at them like this nigga, bruh. When he when he walk out, nigga tapping you on the leg, like bro, get your boy, bro. Who who man's is this?

SPEAKER_01

What's wrong with being curious about a personality?

SPEAKER_04

That comes with it. That comes with it. You gotta first you gotta go, but I really don't know. If she gets the look, she got the look.

SPEAKER_03

Nigga like me don't give a fuck. Do she look good or not? I know if she gets on your nerves, like damn, like I don't know how to play the game and just you know, ignore that stupid shit.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it it starts with do you look good, right?

Why Black Men Date Outside Their Race

SPEAKER_03

That's what this is and then basically you got some niggas that my fault, but you know, what you look good, do you what your feet look like, what your hand look like, you got titties, you got ass, like you know what you like, what you like.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, do you look good? How are you built? And then everything else becomes a sliding scale. I can dig it. I can dig it, I can go for that one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's still going my same way. But what was that you said about uh Stephen A?

SPEAKER_05

Uh we ain't got time. I want to see what was it about. I think all them black women trying to jump out.

SPEAKER_00

Do we say it? I mean, I I I think the people are right for calling him out, but his defenses are valid, but now I'm judging his intentions that I don't know. I just, you know, I'm not a fan of Steve Smith VSPN. Brother can't see his name is his name is Steve Stephen A. Stephen A.

SPEAKER_04

Excuse me, Stephen A.

SPEAKER_00

Stephen A. Smith of VSPN.

SPEAKER_04

His name ain't Steve, his name ain't Steve. I said Stephen A.

SPEAKER_05

Smith of VSPN. No, I didn't become a fan of Stephen A.

SPEAKER_02

That's why I said I didn't when I was sitting over there listening to the thing, I didn't know what everybody was so upset about.

SPEAKER_05

But then again, I also didn't know how many, how many other women felt like that.

SPEAKER_03

I wasn't a fan of him, and then I really didn't become a fan of him. I went to the Knicks game last year, and he was walking off the court. And if y'all would have seen the way he was walking and the way he was trutting, like he dropped 30.

SPEAKER_06

If if I you know, I lost my voice the game before yelling with them fucking fans, so I didn't have no voice. I would have yelled and told him to get the fuck off the court, bro. Because I was right there on the road, like right there at the end, like he was like he's literally like I see him walking towards me. Him and fucking uh what's his fat ass name? Wendy. Is it am I right? Yeah, it's Wendy. So Wendy was right there with the with that stupid ass blazer on them, big pants. You can tell he's a reporter, boy.

SPEAKER_04

He had no fly valley.

SPEAKER_06

He just had the he just had the big white t-shirt, jeans, and the big blaze over, like a reporter, like he coming in to work. He ain't gonna watch the game. Stephen A had that shit off.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_06

Steve well, Stephen A was dressed like you know, suit, Taylor suit and shit, but you know, he just shape funny and he trying to walk like he just dropped 30, like with the little, you know, the little cool walk with uh with his shades on in one hand in the pocket and shit, like in the other.

SPEAKER_05

Y'all gotta chill. Y'all still gotta y'all can never see that to the public.

SPEAKER_06

When I said that when he got off the when he got off the court, I was thinking I said, Well, that nigga did just sign that contract.

SPEAKER_05

I said that.

SPEAKER_06

I said, Damn, if I just signed me all that money, I think I walked across that court.

SPEAKER_05

Hell high all the way back here.

SPEAKER_06

I ain't gonna hold him to the shape funny.

SPEAKER_05

He like uh he got that funny mid section. That's all right.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, and then he was like a he looked like he was like a 14, he made like six foot, six one.

SPEAKER_05

So he got V two. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

No, that's like Steven I ain't gonna play with him. Shit. If I'm if I sign that contract, then yeah, I'm gonna walk on the next floor too like that.

SPEAKER_04

I don't care what y'all say. He should just stick to sports, man. Be bad as that.

SPEAKER_03

He had the uh he he and then they was all and then like they was it's like like he was the last one, like everybody walked off. He would just walk in his tray, like like just looking around and shit, like like like he didn't everybody see me.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I know y'all see me. Well letha what uh what Letha shooter be saying I gotta show up. Uh I gotta uh I gotta show out. You know, that's what he looked like he was doing.

SPEAKER_04

That's it. I really wanted to yeah, like bro, get the fuck out of the court, bro. They walk around like, look what I did, man. Seriously, I put the garden on my back. Come on, man. I got all this shit up in the rafters with Steve and A really name behind me. Stephen A. Smith. So you know, he was gonna get pissed, you called Steve again. You know, I I forgot.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, Steve better be glad he was at the time because I would have yelled Steve Smith. Hey Steve.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_04

Tomorrow I get to call him Steve. Watch tomorrow. He comes back tomorrow. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I don't know. I don't watch his shows. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_04

No, I don't. I I watch it in the break room at work because it'd be on. That means you're watching it. But I have my headphones in.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man, I don't need it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, see no, I I I I I get I get headaches when I listen to Stephen A. Smith's talk too long.

SPEAKER_06

You know, Cam, you know Cam Cam boogie on first take now.

SPEAKER_00

Boy, that's another headache.

SPEAKER_05

Boy, yo, can't I'm on that?

SPEAKER_04

I don't watch it. I don't like Cam talking. Okay, okay, okay. Why the why? What's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_05

Why you don't like Cam talking?

SPEAKER_04

Why the extra man, just talk.

SPEAKER_05

He be trying to put that, you know, that little dialogue.

SPEAKER_04

Just cause he gotta be a little gimmicky. That's the Steve, uh oh no Steve. Shannon Sharp had to do it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I don't have to listen to Shannon Sharp community anymore either. Oh god. You know why club Shake Sha depends if the clips are good. I'm like, okay, I can do.

SPEAKER_04

I don't I don't I don't listen to a lot of these people anymore because I think they uh distract from what I do here. I can dig. I can dig that. He's gonna go listen to some Bill Simmons. Nah, I ain't listened to Bill Simmons in months. I don't listen to Calar no more. What's your boy name that you used to listen to? The one who always uh Coco Brown, uh Coco, what wasn't it? Not Coco Brown. Oh what?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, oh I wouldn't listen to him talking about stuff I care about. When he gets to talking about what he wants to talk about, man, shut your fat ass up.

SPEAKER_04

I don't even hear from you.

SPEAKER_03

Well, to be honest, uh Pat McAfee, my new shit, though. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, Pat Y'all both pet. I do watch that. That's what I'm about to say. That's what that's that's that's what I really watch. I like getting southern out of him. Last one I think I watched Pat when he snapped out. Oh, when that boy uh snapped out on him because he kept calling him little. And all that little shit was he talking to? You talk about when he kept calling that uh, I think it was a BMX that's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02

Did he take his shirt off on him?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. No, buddy took his shirt, but he threw some water at it. Pat was like, get the fuck out of here. You're not welcome anymore. I don't know who it was.

SPEAKER_02

Look at DMX dude though for sure. But Rooster, what's been going on, man?

SPEAKER_03

I'm trying to see what it's trying to know the uh you know uh goddamn Jim Jones, you know, Capo was at the uh at the sneaker thing too.

SPEAKER_04

You said you got something to sign from, did he?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, a little hoodie, but I don't I ain't gonna never wear it because I was it was the last one he left. It was like a 2XL, but I just bought it just so he could sign that bitch. But y'all about the same height, V.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, come on, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

But he'll look but he little though, bro.

SPEAKER_06

He is like, I don't realize like he just he just he he like a he like a a street nigga, you know, got the got the shoulders and the arm, but got the little legs, you know what I'm saying? But that's what I'm saying, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Like if you got swole, if you got swole, if you got swole, that's what you would look like. Right.

SPEAKER_05

Don't fucking say if I got swole, I'm bigger than Jim. So that's what I'm saying. You just chill on that. Fuck with me. What the wrong with you? No, hell no. I know I hadn't seen that uh I hadn't seen that they went live. They've been doing that little streaming shit while they was there. So I seen Capo and the screen? You looking at the stream while he was at the event? I had seen the stream for like 10 minutes. He had popped up on my uh it popped up on my Instagram shit. And I seen him and Mano was on that. Well, that was Mano there, right?

SPEAKER_03

No, I didn't see Maino.

Proximity, Preference, And Money Talk

SPEAKER_04

Just just uh Jada and Fat was in there. Fat Joe was in there though. Oh no, I didn't see I didn't see Jada. Yeah, Jada walked in. Who I seen was a big yellow big uh like bright brighter dude. I don't ain't gonna say it was Mano yellow, but he was like big bright dude that was standing beside. Yeah, just talking about uh Capo's table.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you're talking about Jim Jones.

SPEAKER_04

I wanted to ask you though, what's the stories from real life? Oh, I just it was Dan asked just any like stories from your real life you want to talk about. Oh, yeah, no, it was just uh something to throw in there to think about, like it's real life shit. Well, I do want to come back to that because I mean tell you funny stories been going on in my life after a while. But before we get there, before we get there, y'all ain't seen that Drewski church skit.

SPEAKER_05

Bro, that's still funny, ain't it? Man, yeah, listen, because we didn't get to touch on the topic last week because you ended up leaving. I want to touch on uh these two of them. That's the way from Love, right? Yeah, I want to touch on that uh on the church skit first, bro.

SPEAKER_04

What'd you think about it? Accurate just be doing it.

SPEAKER_06

See, I didn't know who I didn't know a preacher was fucking flying around like he Chris Brown at the breezy ball.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

You know the biggest, the biggest crooks in America besides the government.

SPEAKER_04

I stand on that. He's gonna leave one out and I won't say. No, okay. I I I was you know, I always been feeling like this, but when I went to Houston and seen that big ass church, that's I was like, bro, ain't no way in hell motherfucker holding all this money and preaching. It's the old, it's the it's the oldest it's the old it's the old oil stadium, yeah, bro. Like it's oh that's the that's a lick church now, yeah. Man, that's what that nigga that what's the name old thing?

unknown

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_04

Old thing that makes sense. You on the highway, boy.

SPEAKER_00

You boy, you like church enough? Well, how much it costs to get to get a good tea?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, we oh we what's his what's his I wonder what he what his deposit look like at a Sunday night after everything over, you know what I'm saying? They sit and count and collect.

SPEAKER_02

No worries, I'm gonna speak. I ain't gonna be able to tell I'm gonna see something real. I'm gonna see something. Joe O'Steam. Let's check his network. That's what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_04

He don't pay for anything. Everything he got is a home by the city.

SPEAKER_03

He's nonprofit, he's a five on one, uh, whatever the fuck it's called.

SPEAKER_04

He ain't gotta do shit. Well, he's so he ain't paying no taxes.

SPEAKER_06

They probably don't give him a salary because it's his shit.

SPEAKER_00

He gotta explain some of that some of it.

SPEAKER_06

No, he ain't got he's white. He ain't gotta explain shit. He just give he just give him their cut and they leave him alone.

SPEAKER_02

It's saying it isn't officially published.

SPEAKER_06

Because he's supposed to be serving, he's serving the Lord, he ain't supposed to be making all that money.

SPEAKER_05

Many financial and celebrity websites establish his network at around a hundred million on the on a regular, regular.

SPEAKER_06

He just get up there and blow smoke up people's ass every Sunday. Maybe I don't think he, I don't even think he, I don't even think he uh he ain't touching, he ain't touching the Wednesday service, AC or nothing else. He just coming Sunday for for that for the nine o'clock service. He comes for the nine o'clock service, be up there an hour, blow smoke up people's ass and get paid to get the fuck up out of there.

SPEAKER_01

No, he probably do. He gotta do three services.

SPEAKER_06

He's gonna do the morning service, he's too big, he's too big because he been doing this shit. He ain't gonna uh he ain't doing he doing one service at nine o'clock.

SPEAKER_04

So man, you think he do you think he can stay around? He's gonna do at least three. He may only preach one service.

SPEAKER_06

He preached one service and he goes back there and they just keep bringing him the money back while he's sitting there while he's sitting there on his computer doing everything else, but but preaching. Might had a deacon's wife in there with him.

SPEAKER_04

But bruh. So how if you had to guess, how big is this? Like you had just a square footage of a guess.

SPEAKER_06

So it's the football stadium. What's the football stadium? What's the football stadium hold? 25,000 thirty thousand? I thought it was the old basketball arena. Nah, that's the old Oilers arena.

SPEAKER_04

Well, either way, they used to play ball in the street.

SPEAKER_06

What is it that is it the super dome or the astro dome? One of them. So it's a dome. So you know.

SPEAKER_02

I think it would be the astro dome if I ain't tripping.

SPEAKER_06

So a football stadium, that's why I say football stadium holding what, 25,000, 30,000.

SPEAKER_05

So really just it's the it's the whole Falcon Stadium right now.

SPEAKER_03

Ain't no, they're about to ain't none of them different. They all about the same.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. Uh old Joel was banging it out like that.

unknown

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

Oh god, man. His parents, his parents started the church in uh 1959. And he took over in 99.

SPEAKER_04

40 years. He had DNA. Oh, look at this whole thing.

SPEAKER_03

So in 1999, I'm pretty sure he was 60 years old, 50 years old.

SPEAKER_06

So he was probably running shit. Like his parents, his daddy run it, but he the he the he the nigga that made, you know, he the he the operation nigga. He he the one go collect the money.

SPEAKER_04

See, how old is he? That just made me a but yeah, nah, it he bought the old compact song.

SPEAKER_03

Come on. See? I thought I'd call the astro don't never. Damn.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

He bought it.

SPEAKER_02

Hold on, you said he bought it, I think.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, they bought it.

SPEAKER_00

They can um they have uh capacity seating for about sixteen, eight to seventeen thousand.

SPEAKER_04

Uh so he gets about forty-five thousand people a week coming in service. If they give if they give a dollar, if they cut if everybody gives a dollar at 45,000. Well, we straight. We straight. We keep the one though. We're gonna keep the does open for another couple months. Uh-huh.

Stephen A. Smith And Sports Media Personalities

SPEAKER_06

That's what I'm about to say. I'm just saying, but it's probably some people, it's probably some people richer than him that give him, you know what I'm saying, that's sitting down there giving him money. It's probably some people, it's probably some people that's been giving his daddy, it's probably some people that give his daddy and mama money since the damn 60s. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05

Like what I'm saying, like every week too, though.

SPEAKER_06

All the politicians probably go there, like, you know, all the the white people in Houston probably go there. That means something judges, judges, uh fucking, you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04

They they they know what I'm saying, like they, yeah. DA, everybody probably, you know what I'm saying? Everybody probably go there. But you know, I was looking at the thing that's sitting at the and then he's sitting at the country club on Monday with everybody that was just in church, Sunday.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that's they gonna be there after church after first, they might go back over there. They might bring in my uh country club right over there from church. Shit. But no, what I'm thinking though is I'm sitting over thinking if Joel Oldstein with him quick, quick, excuse me, change that. When I went to uh Eddie Long's church when I was like a kid with Francis and Brandon, man, when I tell you I realize they do break because they do the whole nine yards.

SPEAKER_04

Man, look at man, man, look at that. Two or three new well look here, Newbur, Newburgh, big as fuck, but Newburgh ain't got shit on this, bro. This shit. But if you see this shit, bro, it's crazy. Like you said, don't got reason why. But Newburne Newbirth is big, don't get me wrong.

SPEAKER_06

On that's a big ass church, they got a campus, it's a school and all that shit, but nah.

SPEAKER_03

They're not pulling no this hundred. You said a nigga worth 100 million. Eddie Lone wouldn't know where they're worth 100 million.

SPEAKER_04

No, Eddie Lone, but I ain't gonna say that now.

SPEAKER_05

Ain't gonna say that.

SPEAKER_02

I ain't gonna say that.

SPEAKER_03

Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. He he's making he's making money, but this bro, this dude on a different level, bro.

SPEAKER_04

This nigga be on TV doing this shit. And he does too now. Or he was on TV. New birth fits up to 10,000. No, Newbirth is huge.

SPEAKER_06

Like new new birth is huge.

SPEAKER_04

1710. That's that yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It's a big difference.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's what we yeah. They say they say I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_06

I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure 40. I'm pretty sure 50 only. I'm pretty sure 50,000 people ain't visiting new birth a week, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, no, no, because he ain't white.

SPEAKER_04

That's all that's all that's all I'm saying. And it's just more white people.

SPEAKER_06

He's just more white. That's all I'm saying. He's white. So he gonna he got the white people behind him.

SPEAKER_05

Oh hey, Joel, he got to play Joel right there in tickets. He's getting out of that old button right there to me.

SPEAKER_01

He's cleaning everybody's money.

SPEAKER_06

BJ the nigga, the nigga, the nigga that run the refinery on the outskirts of Houston probably go to church right there. The nigga that run the whole oil.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they see that he's saying he donated money to clean it, but I think he just being nigga probably so rich, you probably just give him all that money.

SPEAKER_01

Cause you know they're not gonna be able to do that no no no, but I'm saying because because like to to skirt around the tax code, right? You know, I mean they go they go a big portion in church that you can report that you donated, right?

SPEAKER_00

And now Joe can distribute that money however he pleases.

SPEAKER_05

So what now happened? You don't have like if he was to put whatever his percentages into the church, you don't pay that.

SPEAKER_06

Nah, because churches are churches are non-profit, so facts.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So just like if you like you get up to so much in donations per year, I'm I'm I don't speak tax code. This is just what I just basically know. Yeah, so you can just use that with your donation. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I didn't know Malin I used to always give people uh they uh they receipts at the end of the year or what they put into the church so they can clamp on their taxes.

SPEAKER_03

Now, look at man, you good look at the game is you're rich now, you go to the church, you say, Hey, I'm gonna donate 200,000 and you give me 150 back right now. You know what I mean? That's what it is, that's what they're gonna do.

SPEAKER_04

Or you do these charities or these events for me. So I meant as uh keep that little fit, that's for you. But you write me a check for that one. I can't preach a preacher. A preacher, a preacher is an unregistered politician. That's all a preacher is an unregistered politician.

SPEAKER_00

They are they are uh shepherds to the flock.

SPEAKER_04

They are bringing people to God. The hell does that mean? The fuck does that mean? Oh, he got he didn't need to do that prank call and shit. He had one he's just yeah, he's gonna be. I know what you're talking about, V. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We are shepherds of the flock. Nah, the pastors are just they they helping guide the the people, the lost people to the word of God.

SPEAKER_04

No, they now they're running a business.

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_04

I'm not gonna do that. Right in profit, right in uh profit lost spreadsheets.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's because the government forces them to. If the government didn't get involved, they wouldn't have to do these things. The government don't want to make, you know, make them report what they got going on.

SPEAKER_04

You know, why the church has to reach up the 501c3? These folks giving their money to God and they should be able to that church should be able to decide where that money goes without the government sticking their grubby hands in there and seeing what's going on. No, they bigger than God in America. He said some crazy shit.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no, no, shit, it's gonna be God in America because uh hell, I saw today that like three different uncle Sam terrorists. Wait, you said that one time? I thought like three different groups of Muslims were put on one of these high terrorist watch lists.

SPEAKER_00

Uh uh that organization was registered as like a terrorist organization. Sorry, I don't sound the most educated on it, but point being is the government said, hey, if if you didn't just go out, you was a problem.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, don't be God.

SPEAKER_03

Who you talking about?

SPEAKER_04

That's what the Muslims call them, call them, yes. Yeah, that's what he said on the wood, BJ. That was Stacy said on the woods.

SPEAKER_01

Deep respect for the Muslims, you know what I mean? Like they now for real, they committed, they can pray five times a day. They ain't supposed to eat pork, they ain't supposed to be drunk.

SPEAKER_04

They got a lot more rules than us Baptist Christians. You know, we ain't got too many like rules, you know what I'm saying? Like, we ain't got be in a club with Muslims and they be drinking like say what you just said when you broke up. I said, I'll be seeing Muslims, I be seeing Muslim drinking the club, and I'd just be like, damn. You ain't seen a nigga not eating no pork chops. Or fully loaded ham and cheese.

SPEAKER_00

You ain't seeing that. But yeah, nah.

SPEAKER_04

Uh nah, the government is bigger than God. I'm not agreeing with y'all on that.

SPEAKER_05

I'm thinking this country, I don't know. Oh, this is personally saying, but I'm saying I'm not I'm not agreeing with that still.

SPEAKER_01

Have you not seen what the government been doing? Went to Venezuela, got Maduro. Told some niggas in Iran, hey, y'all better relax. Or we come to get shape.

SPEAKER_04

We already on Q. AC, we already on Q.

SPEAKER_01

We told Greenland. Now we're already in a treaty with Denmark about Greenland.

SPEAKER_04

Hey big dog, now see China and Russia trying to get Greenland, you know, just like they was trying to do work in Venezuela. Now we we need Greenland now too. So we bullied that too. We haven't taken it, but that's what he's talking. Yeah. Because he's he's playing God. That's what he said.

Drewski’s Church Skit And Mega-Church Money

SPEAKER_01

If he was going to Minneapolis, you know what I'm saying? You can't even speak, you can't record ice. That's that thing is domestic terror. You ain't supposed to speak out against them, and and and they can come in here with with shikes on and and and and shoot folks in the car. She wasn't, even if she was resisting arrest, that don't mean she deserves to die. And everybody defends it. You know, it's crazy. You know, we think about well, back in slavery, well, I would have did this. Or well, if I would have been in Nazi Germany, I would have. Man, we're seeing some similar stuff going on. People are being mistreated because of of how they identify or what they was born as, you know what I mean? I mean like their race, their religion, whatever country they're from. And then go shit, boy. I can't lose this check. Well, I don't work. You with me. You feel niggas ain't freedom fighters, and that's okay. It's okay to not be a freedom fighter. To stop saying you're a freedom fighter.

SPEAKER_02

Pretty much stop saying what you would do if you was in the in the situation.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, the freedom fighters died out, AC. Huh? The freedom fighters died out.

SPEAKER_04

Nah, they got they get bought out once they started getting some momentum. That's uh right. Once you get a little freedom train going, they buy you out, or they uh they sick them women or boys on your own. What leave these niggas behind for some money? Where I sign up at that way. I mean, you see what's happening to Tyler Perry. Now he he got too big for his branches, and now they got these boys coming out. Another boy that came out on it.

SPEAKER_05

Another one that came out, but I believe that I ain't gonna say, and I don't want to say it like that because I don't want to ever you know try to diminish another black man out here, but I've always said that I feel like between ever since that TDJ story came out, and then uh and Tom, I feel like they they two are the same people, realistically, bro. I feel like they they two are the same, two big freaks to dress up with all the other stuff and you know get to get to preach the word, I guess, whenever it's convenient for them.

SPEAKER_04

Man, he man, Tyler Perry, man. He just what's that's a real rag the riches story right there, in it?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, to a certain extent. But even then, it's like he didn't. I feel like he was gonna sound shitty. This is gonna sound kind of shitty. I feel like Tyler Perry got bigger than what he was because he did that dressing up as a woman shit for the longest. He made that cool. And I mean, don't get it twisted. I don't know if y'all ever watched the Madea, but I ain't never enjoyed a Madea.

SPEAKER_04

I ain't gonna like Madea. I think he just got big because he does his own, he he does his shit. I mean, I get you don't, but he's doing it inside the church as well.

SPEAKER_05

He's getting all that money coming from there, and he's dressing up as a black woman. I feel like that's the thing, that's where all that shit's spiraling from. It's he getting Bill's name up in the church, he's getting a plate of dominant black woman that is because we have if you went to Mouse, you seen a bunch of Madeas in Mount Zion, respectfully, like it's a bunch of aggressive older women who yell, fuss, and cuss, and then you know, whenever it's convenient for them, they want to be sweet again, and and that's okay, but it's just it was so relatable, it was so relatable to I guess quote unquote the black family because we done seen that for so long. And the white family like to laugh at exactly because it's a black man dressed up as a woman playing like he just a you know, but but also he had a a great business model, he owned everything.

SPEAKER_03

That's all that's all I was saying.

SPEAKER_00

He went and got uh half-being actors and actresses and put him in these movies that ended up doing numbers, so he stacked him on money, then he built the studio. And what I think happened is right now. Let's just think about this.

SPEAKER_04

You're a billionaire, you own it he could be compete with Hollywood, put it like that. Yeah, he's competing with Hollywood. So you already know how Hollywood feels about anybody competing with him. You got them.

SPEAKER_00

Then with the COVID stuff, a lot of stuff came to Atlanta and left Hollywood. You know, you had the little exodus, so you got this stuff going on.

SPEAKER_01

Now you're the billionaire who owns the studio. You got the replica of the White House, and anytime somebody put the White House in a movie, they come into your studio. So you know, you get paid, you gotta be a good one.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, whenever they're not, whenever they ain't filming in LA, that's where they filming it.

SPEAKER_04

Bingo, and then like they I I read that Secret Service to actually use Solid Paris Studios to train, you know what I mean? So you got all this going on. You see you a nice like people pay to use that shit. Exactly. He rent shit out too, right? But you see a nice little piece of ass out there, right?

SPEAKER_00

You own this studio, you got all these movies, these shows. You can put that little piece of tail in there, just keep them close, you know, give them a little money, but you ain't paying them straight up, and you I uh his problem is you too big for that pause.

SPEAKER_04

Put it like this. How much do you think? How much do you think Disney paid him to shoot Black Panther there?

SPEAKER_03

What was that like a 20 million dollar budget movie or something?

SPEAKER_04

The problem was way more, way more thing more than that. Way more a big box. I'm just saying, but he did way more than that. I'm just saying a big a big like that, the guy.

SPEAKER_05

He probably he probably got at least Tyler Perry probably got a 20 million 20 in food. I'm saying Black Panther's budget was good. Oh, that's why I'm saying I know it was way more than that, but I'm saying he probably got 200 for them just to come to his spot and do all that. Because I mean shit, it took him probably about three months, huh?

SPEAKER_04

To film shit, probably a year. No, I'm saying like they ain't gonna sell that the whole time. I'm just talking about as long as they have they flew in Black Panther in Atlanta. I know that.

SPEAKER_06

I know that, but I'm saying they wasn't on Tyler Perry's lot, uh they was out there uh in uh damn uh they do they do you do you do few things, you do a few scenes outside, but most of them shit be green screen, you know what I'm saying? Like green room or shit like that.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know if he did it. I don't think they did the whole thing inside of Talapper.

SPEAKER_06

I know most of the movies with African backgrounds, so you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05

I mean, if you look at if you look at Kennesaw for real mean shit, most of that woods. I mean, it's you know something you see in the woods and the fucking uh the the waterfall shit. That didn't know what was going on with what you seen. That's where the fight scene was at. When they got fighting with him and uh uh uh Michael B. Jordan, they got to fight in Kennesaw, right in the damn uh in the uh Red Train.

SPEAKER_04

It's that little it's a little mountain, you know, the the little mountain mountain, not Kennesaw Mountain, it's like you're talking about the battlefield, but I'm gonna go the battlefield, yeah. I think that was green in a I think that was in the green room, dude. They on a they on a mountain and shit, so I think that was in a green room. Nah, that was up that thieves up there. Oh you know how thieves up there on that little mountain. No, I don't know. That's a hill.

SPEAKER_02

But no, that's that's what you want though. That's why I just I I don't know. It could have been, I might check that out.

SPEAKER_01

The people still gonna see this.

SPEAKER_05

They got RB Bingo going on more. Well no, it's the lights. Well, let's get to what's the TI uh we jumping out with him?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we already, I mean, we gotta hit it.

SPEAKER_00

He he gave we want him to get us thoughts on the church. He's gonna get he gonna do that anytime he brings up the church and shit. He's gonna get started with this shit anytime he gets started. Hey man, a guy I went to college where he has a church up there, I think in Harlem. You should check him out one Sunday.

SPEAKER_03

They got a church in Harlem, they got a church in Harlem. I know he's dirty.

SPEAKER_06

I'm pretty sure because that rent probably high as half.

SPEAKER_04

You know, they they own the church probably owns that that that that's not. I doubt it. I'm pretty sure it's a cornerstone church, you know. It's been up for a minute. I assume so.

SPEAKER_01

I mean Morehouse gave the nigga uh a portrait in the in the chapel, so I imagine he has to fly at his church. I don't know. I ain't cool with the nigga. I just said I don't.

SPEAKER_05

Oh so is he uh uh was he did he graduate with you? Yeah, yeah. Oh shit. Okay, he was a classic freshman year.

unknown

Okay, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Man. Get a sleepy man. A little bit. I see a bunch, I see a bunch of Jehovah's Witness churches around here.

SPEAKER_04

Kingdom, what is Kingdom Halls? Amen.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, and he be full of niggas. I'll be like, dang, there's that many people. I mean, my family, Jehovah, my family, part of my family Jehovah's Witness.

SPEAKER_04

Shit crazy, but I found out found a bunch of my family members, they participate in being Jehovah's Witnesses.

Joel Osteen, Nonprofits, And Taxes

SPEAKER_05

I didn't know it was I really don't understand the whole meat and potatoes of it because they like trying to go without getting no gift on and not eating. I want to eat with my goddamn family and friends. I'm not celebrating, not partying out of that. Come on, man, I'm the marriage. I'm not trying to not party with my people when they go out. No, man, that's shit.

SPEAKER_04

But nobody I just I ain't trying to judge nobody what they do, but I just don't personally don't understand. I don't either, you know, as long as you uh, you know, I thought as long as you write with God, you right with me, but I don't care if you get right with God. That's between you and God. You know, just be a cool person. That's a problem with America. I want everybody to do what they do and have their religion.

SPEAKER_03

It's the first, it's the first one. Freedom of religion.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, until they say until you're Muslim.

SPEAKER_01

Nah, I start being Muslim in America, though. Well, in you remember back, you know how to hit a Muslim band.

SPEAKER_02

Well, let's tell you last part. I guess we can talk about these advanced sports things. You know what I mean? Are we upset by that or is that what we need? New friends want this new start. Is it gonna be is this what we need to bring something to a lot?

SPEAKER_04

Well, the Hawks trade them like nigga. Now you now we finna they all finna suck again. I don't think so, bro. I ain't gonna care. I don't think so. I feel like now we we finally look, we look, we look way better on the defense than that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we did. Yeah, they did. They got the buttons that they end up trading that off. We're gonna end up getting uh the guilt product, the big man from uh Dallas, or was going for AD.

SPEAKER_00

I I believe it when I say it. I get it. No, but I mean, go for Trey, and he's in Washington with Travis Slink, who drafted him in Atlanta and built that Eastern Conference Finals team. So he's with a couple, he's with a front office that believes in him and cares about him. So shout out to Trey.

SPEAKER_04

I'm ready to see him and J Poo go crazy together. I don't like it. They don't play on that no more. In New Orleans, nah.

SPEAKER_01

When he leaves up when the fuck they leave him, beginning of the season like the commertime. Yeah, didn't they trade him and for CJ?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

C J won't come.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, CJ CJ played for Washington now.

SPEAKER_04

Nah, he played. They they waived him. No, no, the that's the trade. He got traded, he got traded there from Jordan Poole, like from the world.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we got Corey Kill spell. I don't like y'all saying CJ C C J can get a bucket now. It ain't no trade button. We see had to get a butt. He ain't young no.

SPEAKER_04

He ain't young no more. Is it for real?

unknown

Damn.

SPEAKER_04

So we traded a little nigga for a little bit.

SPEAKER_03

If he if he if he if he if he's gonna do something, he gotta be on like a contender at this point if he's gonna be effective. I think I think the Hawks come off the bench. I think come off the bench for a contender.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think the Hawks got a good feeling on either somebody in free agency or a big trade because that was a salary dump.

SPEAKER_03

You know, they don't never get nobody, they don't never get nobody in free agency or big trade. I I I know Joe Johnson was the last nigga, but they didn't know he was gonna be, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, don't nobody want to come live in Atlanta, man. I don't be understanding that.

unknown

Why?

SPEAKER_01

Niggas got why baby moments you think you want to live in Atlanta? I don't know why you're baby moments, man.

SPEAKER_02

In this city, going to these strip clubs. You already got 41 months. Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. You damn sure right about that.

SPEAKER_04

You say you going out to to to grab a drink with the guy, it's a little bit different at management. You left at 11 30 now, 3 o'clock when you come home because you don't went to every stop and shop over there. Yeah. Nah, you come home, it's it's goddamn 6 30. Yeah, you gotta go to practice in the morning, gotta go get them kids. Goddamn kids want to go to school when you get what you just walking in something like bank. I feel shit. Yeah, honey, honey.

SPEAKER_06

I've been home. I was just sitting downstairs in the uh basement. Why your why your eyes red? Huh?

SPEAKER_04

Hello, bro.

SPEAKER_05

Maybe if they go deep in the end and out, it's gonna be the little bitty sleep. So anything, anytime the phone ring anything, they write back up to see what's going on, see what time it is. Oh, that my bitch ass shit.

SPEAKER_01

I just woke up.

unknown

Where you at?

SPEAKER_01

Oh shit, I'm over here in the office smoking a cigar. Uh you might know, but I just left that too. Huh? Well, I didn't I didn't hear the alarm go off.

SPEAKER_06

That's what you say.

SPEAKER_04

See, that's all you can say, bro. Huh? Yeah, real quick. So now you got the text and get it home. Oh yeah, yeah. That's a hell of a feeling right there. Hell yeah, Molly. Oh, you thought you were gonna get me. Uh now you can now you can now you can snap. Now you can get me.

SPEAKER_05

I told you about calling trying to check in. I feel all right. That's all. That's all you can really get mean.

SPEAKER_04

Well, but we got we got any luck coming that we got something going good with the Falcons coming up next season. I mean, Matt Ryan is the head of the organization.

SPEAKER_03

So a lot of people that mean, AZ.

SPEAKER_04

That's what I was gonna say. A lot of people he he did a lot for the organization as uh the quarterback. He uh playing. We had our best years under Matt Ryan, so they trust his leadership and judgment.

SPEAKER_00

True. I don't I don't personally.

SPEAKER_04

I I'm I hope he does well and I'm optimistic, but like he's never football operation. We had two good seasons.

SPEAKER_05

But let me ask you, do you think that we could uh you think he's gonna turn stuff around from your opinion? I know he was playing, but I'm saying you don't think he can get the pieces we need to get enough?

SPEAKER_03

One of y'all who the fuck for the who the fuck for the who the fuck for the sake? I mean, I'm pretty sure they're not gonna, I'm pretty sure he's not gonna have any.

SPEAKER_04

You think he'll have some say so in personnel? Uh I think he will have no. I think I think he will have input. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03

Like I think he'll have input.

SPEAKER_04

Do you think he'll be like John Lway with the Broncos?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_04

How John Lway can kind of basically he basically runs, he does what he, you know what I mean? Like he makes you know what, you know what, go through him. Uh according to the the press conference, yes, actually, it said uh he'll that Matt Ryan touch will touch everything. Pause. Words that affect from like turf to something. Your last week your last week quote you get on that. So they're trying to put him like John L right.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Your uh your last week's comment was it hit on the head till you said that if Mike Tomlin didn't uh didn't win, he was gonna get up out of there. He took a step down from the Steelers today.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, man. I and I you know, I wish he would just come right on over to it.

SPEAKER_04

Well, because you know he have a great he could have another 19 years if he comes to Atlanta and just get up to the playoffs every year.

SPEAKER_02

He gets up to the playoffs every year. Be comfortable in Atlanta. We're gonna go around.

SPEAKER_01

It works here was eight and eight. Oh man, please. Well, if my worst years eight and eight, boy, eight, uh nine and eight, boy, we'll take it.

SPEAKER_04

We alright. We alright. But if you had to pick, I only go you and Ru this is my last question of the night. If you had to say, would you go Harborough or would you go uh Tom? Tom, I guess I'm facts. Rue, what about you? I'm gonna go with the nigga. What about you?

SPEAKER_02

I'm definitely going, I'm going to like it. I like I like them yellow eyes coming out and campus and being pissed off on a regular. He can set a tone on that line, I feel like, man. We can get some shit rolling, I believe.

SPEAKER_00

For sure, for sure. Hey, yeah, but before you wrap it up, hey, uh Cartersville, we'll be out at the uh the Black History Expo uh at the end of uh February 29th, I believe it is, 28th, last day of February. And um we are planning that a Saturday or Friday? Saturday. And we are planning to throw a party after that details to uh come so so y'all come out, show love. We have some merch out there, so y'all come buy some merch. Come show the veil of uh how much you love us and join us to come up with.

SPEAKER_02

Like so you want like a 90 vibe or a too early 2000 vibe.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we gotta be like seventh grade when I start partying with them old niggas. So then you gotta get you a pet of uh them Jaboz you used to wear and a tall T. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. Then don't fucking say you want to go back there, Ruth. Nah, you ain't going all the way there, no play.

SPEAKER_03

I'm just talking about the amount of people in there. I don't I don't give a fuck for the for the work. I don't give a fuck for the emergency.

SPEAKER_04

If you don't come in there smelling like mid, then you can't be a uh uh 2000 for a loco. Mid for a loco, and what's that other uh dangerous ass drink that used to be out back in the day? MD MD, yeah. Give one of them, you gotta do one of them. Morgan talking about that, Morgan David. Absolutely, yeah. That's it, yes, sir. Yes, sir. What it like shit look like hypnotic, boy. Blueberry patchy, but that's ready to give you a stomach ache. Just saying, babe, my stomach hurt just then just saying, man. Just trying to get drunk, and it was the east side stove when they were just letting us get it.

unknown

Really making us go through all that carrying all.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, go on in there, get you a bottle, get on about it.

SPEAKER_04

You get tuned in pretty good before you go with the party. Shit, what's something gonna be tall? Yeah, that's bad. You smoke that mid. Good night.

SPEAKER_02

It's a good night, get you some good rest as soon as you get done with.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's it, man. That's it. I'm gonna jump out of that too, Ruth. All right, man, I gotta hit it tomorrow. Village Bets. Yeah, hold it. Party. End of the month. Next month.