Falcons Hire Stefanski

Atlanta finally made a move. We’ve got Kevin Stefanski in the building, and we’re done grading the press conference—we’re grading Sundays. We unpack why this hire fits the roster’s real needs: an offensive mind with head coaching reps who’s navigated chaos and still delivered structure, development, and playoff wins in Cleveland. It’s not a splashy pick. It’s a functional one. And if the Falcons align coach, GM, and QB, functional becomes wins.

We go deep on the context the graphics leave out. Raheem versus Stefanski isn’t about two-year records; it’s about expectations, divisions, and roster realities. We also address the Shadur narrative head on: reps, draft slot, and the depth chart explain more than discourse does. If you want better outcomes, fix the system, not just the storyline. Then we pivot to what Atlanta fandom really wants—results over vibes. The city’s love for Mike Vick and Prime is real, but nostalgia doesn’t score in the red zone. Matt Ryan’s run proved boring can be brilliant. The challenge now is to let performance—not narratives—decide futures.

Beyond Atlanta, we hold the media to the same standard. Josh Allen’s playoff flop, the All-Star starter debates, and college football’s NIL-fueled shakeup all show how incentives distort analysis. Indiana’s title is a symptom of a sport where money and structure outweigh tradition. In the NFL, structure still wins: clear schemes, smart situational calls, and quarterback development. That’s the bet on Stefanski.

Tap play to hear our unfiltered breakdown of the hire, the roster, and the path forward, plus playoff takeaways and a sharp look at how narratives get made. If you want weekly, honest Falcons talk that chooses tape over talk, you’re in the right place. Subscribe, share with a friend, and drop your Stefanski grade—are you about results or vibes?

Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open: Music, Migos, And Memories
• 2:35 Atlanta Rap, Club Eras, And Nostalgia
• 6:00 Relationships, Movies, And Couch Logic
• 12:50 Work Banter, AWS, Walmart Culture Takes
• 16:50 Dogs, Country vs Southern, Locker Room Calls
• 19:46 Note: Shift To Stefanski Hire And Grading
• 27:30 Hitting The Theme: Falcons Coaching News
• 31:50 Why Stefanski: Resume, Fit, And Philosophy
• 38:20 Show Me Sundays: Results Over Hype
• 42:40 Raheem vs Stefanski: Context And Conferences
• 50:00 Race, Media Narratives, And Shadur Debate
• 58:40 Matt Ryan, Mike Vick, And Atlanta Identity
• 1:08:20 Fans, Culture, And What Winning Really Means
• 1:15:10 Closing The Falcons Loop: Picks, Pierce Trade Math
• 1:20:20 Media Incentives And Manufactured Takes
• 1:23:45 Divisional Recap: Allen, Bills, And Coaching Fallout
• 1:31:20 Caleb Williams, Stafford Legacy, And Caldwell
• 1:40:30 College Football: Indiana Title And NIL Era
• 1:48:30 NBA All-Star Starters, Edwards vs Steph
• 1:56:10 Parlay Pete’s Six-Pack And Lee’s Three
• 1:59:10 Final Word: MLK, Narratives, And Sign-Off

Transcript

SPEAKER_03: 0:01

Yeah, go for it.

SPEAKER_04: 0:35

How we doing there, Parley Pete? We are doing fantastically. How are we doing today?

SPEAKER_02: 0:41

You know, not too bad. I meant to have some intro music ready for you, but then I fucked up. Oh, dang, I messed up again, too.

SPEAKER_04: 0:51

I figured you were maybe gonna give us a little bad bougie or something like that. No, I'll give you one better than that. Considering the uh pre-production uh speak. No, I'm gonna give you a better one. How much better? Oh, okay. Yeah, but it's still it's still on theme. Shout out to all my trap niggas.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10

Shout out to my nigga Bo.

SPEAKER_04: 1:11

Trap trap trap trap trap trap is funny. So when we would see trap, this is what we would say to him when we would see him, we'd be like, Trap, trap, trap.

SPEAKER_02: 1:20

I remember.

SPEAKER_04: 1:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:24

Man, I know we probably talk about this more than we should on this show. But I I think Nigos and future will always hold a more special place in our heart, despite how they're rated as artists, just because we were literally in the places that made their music pop when their music popped. Yes. Like, yeah, the Travis Porter shit was cool, like all the other Atlanta niggas, but like they ended up not like becoming legends. We're talking about like people who are can be can can be your favorites of all time, and you're not gonna get laughed out of a room. Yeah, we were there in real time. Yeah, like when you didn't expect the Migos to just make hits yet, you know what I'm saying? They they just make it club bangers. Yeah. Man, I miss I I I miss the Migos, man. RP Migos. God damn. How do we end up even talking about the Migos in pre-production?

SPEAKER_04: 2:32

Because it uh it started with the J. Cole um aspect, but then I had said I it it we somehow had gotten uh Drake into it, or I got maybe I've kind of brought Drake in. Well, I brought him in. I brought him in because of the J. Cole speech. And your OVO chain. Joe Button. Nah, so what is it? Do it do I have an OVO chain or do I have a good music chain? Which one is it, Liz? Or if I I'm repping both.

SPEAKER_02: 2:59

Yeah, you watch you you watch House of Cards? No. Okay, never mind. Never seen it. I I just started watching it last week. Yeah, I'm years late. It's good.

SPEAKER_04: 3:11

I I obviously, you know, I've heard a lot about it, but um I never uh no. Okay. Well you know, there's a lot of TV. I just am not a TV guy, and I know you say you weren't either, but like again, I there are certain this certain shit. Like, again, I've never seen Sopranos, the wire. There's just a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_02: 3:34

You know, that's the one good thing about if you're in a relationship, you get put on the TV stuff because you know women watch way more TV than guys like this. Like we're sports guys.

SPEAKER_04: 3:47

Absolutely, absolutely. I think I might have told you this because an example of that for me would be a movie, even. Um uh The Truman Show. I'd never seen the Truman Show. Kator put me on, watched the Truman Show, blown away. It's I it's crazy, it's kind of one of my favorite movies.

SPEAKER_02: 4:08

You know, it's so I'm never looking to watch a movie on a weekday, you know, like I'm not coming home from work and turning on a movie. I might binge a series, but I'm not turning on a movie. But you know, even with your shorty and y'all get off from work and she's like, hey, you want to watch this movie? Yeah, no problem. And you might watch too.

SPEAKER_04: 4:34

Isn't isn't it easier? It's it's easy though. Yeah, you don't have to cook up something, whether whether it be just from a we're just tired standpoint, or I don't wanna you can order, takeout, you can do what you want, food while you cook together, whatever, but it's easier, especially, and even let's just say, man, I really want to get my dick sucked tonight, or something. It's just so it's easy. It's it's a it's like an easy listen.

SPEAKER_02: 5:01

It's just easy. Yeah, you know, like when y'all watching that movie together, there's gonna be some type of cuddling thing going on. And if you just get like a little bit of wood, you know, you just start popping it up, and you know, she feels it.

SPEAKER_04: 5:15

Yeah, and well, and depending on how they're laying on you, if their heads like high in your lap, they can feel it, but then you can you're just touching ass. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it sets itself up very nicely. Uh, if you're a man and you're heterosexual and you like women, it's very it's it's it's it's natural. I don't know how else to put it, to be honest. It's natural.

SPEAKER_02: 5:39

It's honestly unnatural to be on a couch with a woman watching something and there not being some type of physical contact. It's weird.

SPEAKER_04: 5:47

Some type of physical contact andor um right, because what's the point of really at the movie at that point? I mean, it might be a good movie, yeah. But then at that point, you've probably seen it before, or it's literally something you didn't see in theaters, and then it's like, well, why did you guys go see it in theaters if you wanted to see it so fucking bad? You can watch it by yourself if it wasn't in theaters. You're watching it with a chick. She's either seen it because she took another John out, or if it's actually your girl, then why didn't y'all go see it? Hey, what are we gonna now? There's because then because then it's not about the movie, is what I'm saying. Because you would have gone to see it in theaters if you wanted to really see it, and you have a girl and she wanted to see it. Why wouldn't you just go see it? Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_02: 6:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No.

SPEAKER_04: 6:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 6:40

Uh are we gonna name that segment Dear John?

SPEAKER_04: 6:45

Or uh we're gonna workshop it. I I like that as a working title. I do. I think tentatively that's a great way to uh announce this segment. I mean, we could we could make it like uh the notebook. I don't know how we can incorporate that. And maybe that's like the have you ever seen the notebook? I have a dick. Okay. Have you? I I had to in high school. I I had a girlfriend that I mean he was white.

SPEAKER_02: 7:17

How about that? No, I I I wasn't in a relationship like when the notebook was a thing to watch, so I didn't have to watch it. Oh, yeah, there's that, and then what's the vampire movie?

SPEAKER_04: 7:26

I w I went and saw that in theaters. Um did you read the books too? No, come on. I I have a dick. No, I didn't read the book, but but I because I have a dick, I did see it in theaters with a woman. So I because I have a dick. And in high school, what what what's the easiest? We just talked about it. If you're watching a movie, what makes a chick horny in a movie theater? Her man being up on her and touching her, and you're watching what she wants to watch. She's rubbing your dick the whole movie. You know, you're thinking to yourself, you're like, you like watching these vampires. I want you to suck the life out of this guy. That's what I want, you know? And that's just the honest to God truth. People can they can look at this show and this segment if this gets clipped up or anything. Like, you can say what you want to say, but these are the hard truths that we have to live with.

SPEAKER_02: 8:19

Hey, parlay Pete. We are recording. This is live, and this will get clipped.

SPEAKER_04: 8:25

Okay, well, so be it, so be it, right? That's what pushing.

SPEAKER_05: 8:31

This is culturally inappropriate.

SPEAKER_04: 8:33

There you go. With AC Lee.

SPEAKER_02: 8:38

One of these days. One of these days, Alice. One of these days. Yeah. I almost said that to somebody at work today.

SPEAKER_04: 8:50

Uh it wasn't a certain employee, was it? No, no, it was random. Okay. I don't know what I've told you. You don't even know which employee I'm talking about. That's the funny thing.

SPEAKER_02: 9:04

Yeah, and I don't even know what employees I've talked to you about, so it's you know.

SPEAKER_04: 9:09

Well, you got somebody that might want your dad because they want you, but you're emotionally unavailable. Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh. You're emotionally unavailable for them. Then you got uh hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you got the sweat. No, no, no, no, you got the sweater cow.

SPEAKER_01: 9:29

Um sweater cow.

SPEAKER_04: 9:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The milk. The cannons, but uh cannon. But you I mean he told me about a couple, but those me and the two stories that stood out to me. Okay, well, let's you know. Well, we'll calm it down. We don't have to bring Bezos up. I shouldn't have said that. Well, you no, you've said Bezos world on here before. Yeah, I mean, this whole world is its world, you know. Well, regardless of what people want to realize, yes, he he runs a big he has a fraction of it. I mean, everything's powered by AWS, everything's powered by AWS. You can't get anything delivered without it being these guys, and they're gonna drive the post office out of business. And you know, it's crazy. I always thought that the biggest loser for Amazon was Walmart, but Walmart still wins. Hey, you know what? Some people, some people just like movies, like to go to get their shit in person.

SPEAKER_02: 10:34

You know what else? What's that? The people who go to Walmart don't keep up with the latest trends, and that's not a knock, though. Huh? I said Walmart's great though. Yeah, it's not a knock, but like your your typical Walmart shopper isn't up on all the trends, they're more Facebook less less Twitter, you know what I mean? Correct, that's true.

SPEAKER_04: 11:01

If people that use Facebook faithfully are Walmart shoppers, I guarantee it. I guarantee it. If there's somebody watching this right now on your Facebook, I would love for them to drop a comment and tell me I'm wrong. Now, granted, you can say, well, nigga, everybody goes to Walmart. Well, no shit, Sherlock, but at the same time, you buy fresh fruit from Walmart. You go to the who goes to Walmart? Do you go to Walmart more than once a month? And that will answer the question. I don't go to Walmart once a month. I go to Walmart when I need something from Walmart.

SPEAKER_02: 11:36

I I I get my dog food from there, so like I go once a month, but it's uh it's for dog food. Or like you're a what you're not so you're not a one-stop shop guy. Uh no, not with dog food, because the dog food be uh Walmart be having the tax. Yeah, Walmart just has a good price on dog food.

SPEAKER_04: 12:00

Yeah. And you're getting the big, you're getting the big 50-pound bags, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_02: 12:04

Hell yeah. You see them two monsters, I gotta know.

SPEAKER_04: 12:07

Yeah. And they're well, how long so how long does it take them to eat all that? I don't know. Uh because we've only got my at my dad's house, at least. He, I mean, we got a dog. Well, technically there's three dogs, but there's one that's the outside dog, which I'm sure you've met. Um, and then does the outside dog have a name or is his name outside dog? Frack, it actually used to didn't have a name. It's what's crazy. But we had well, we had two when you came to the house that time. We had two, but one of them died like last Christmas.

SPEAKER_02: 12:41

I remember.

SPEAKER_04: 12:42

Yeah, like which it was so sad, but yeah, I've had because I've had a dog since I was in high school, so it's very sad that many died, RP Many, but yeah, the other one's name is Frack. That's his name.

SPEAKER_02: 12:55

You you know, you know Big Marv, right?

SPEAKER_04: 12:58

Yeah, he's not thinking that he's no longer fat Marv. He's big Marv. And now he's not even big, right?

SPEAKER_02: 13:05

Like, if I hadn't lost this weight, I would be bigger than Marv, Pauls. But uh nah, uh Marv came, like I want to say it was the first time he came to my house uh in college. Uh out there. Yeah, in the veil. Okay. Uh my mom had like these two dogs. They were outside dogs, you know, no, no fence, no leash, no chain. I don't even know if they had collars. They just stayed around the house. Mm-hmm. Didn't bother nobody, just barked to let somebody know, you know, let somebody know. Let you know somebody outside. Marvin asked me their names. I'm like, bro, I don't know them dogs' names. I just came home one time, one, one weekend, and it was here. So he named them dog one and dog two. Now, which one was dog one and dog two? Didn't matter. Dog one and dog two.

SPEAKER_04: 14:01

This and obviously, I mean, I know you got Gucci in California, right?

SPEAKER_02: 14:05

So Yeah, I got yeah, I didn't have like I my dog died in high school, my Siberian husky. And I didn't have another dog.

SPEAKER_04: 14:14

Oh wow, you had a pretty dog.

SPEAKER_02: 14:15

Yeah, I didn't have another dog until I got Gucci. My mama would get like little little yard dogs, you know.

SPEAKER_04: 14:23

But but they were her dogs, they weren't your dog. It wasn't your dog, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 14:27

And I was in college, so like I wasn't even home when she was buying them, and you know, it probably run away. I don't know what happens to them dogs.

SPEAKER_04: 14:34

That's but you know, that's such an interesting thing because that's kind of how we were. I mean, I I grew up with dogs. We have one family dog, like that dog is so crazy. This true story. That dog is buried where we have a mural set up for my mom where her ashes are. We literally decided to place it there. Yes, that dog was that big. Smokey was our dog's name. We never had a leash, never had a cage. That dog roamed around our neighborhood, always came back home. We didn't even have to low-key feed this dog. It was that Smokey was like a I mean, we did. I'm I'm not saying we didn't. Smokey was like a human.

SPEAKER_02: 15:11

Smokey might just come back with a carcass or something.

SPEAKER_04: 15:15

He would uh he's killed raccoons, he killed squirrels, he oh, he killed raccoons. We you know, we have a cricket my house. So, like, even for water supply, this is what I'm saying. It was a self-sufficient dog. It was yeah, he killed a raccoon once. Um it was um we saw it. Like, it was unbelievable. That dog coon's delicious, man. Let me tell you. Can you call raccoons coons on podcasts, or do you have to say raccoon? I call it a raccoon because that's just the proper name. I don't mind calling it a coon. I think that I have a different meaning for coon, which we're gonna get to in a little bit, uh, when it comes to our fan base. But like um, so that's I like to distinguish the two. That way you know who I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_02: 15:59

Okay, because I just grew up, I grew up talking about coon hunting, coon dogs, who is coon out there.

SPEAKER_04: 16:04

Well, we you're a little bit more in the country, you know. It is, it would be more, it would be considered more country.

SPEAKER_02: 16:11

Uh no, I'm from the country, I'm surrounded by fucking woods.

SPEAKER_04: 16:15

Yeah, if I were I mean, so am I Georgia? Georgia is woods.

SPEAKER_02: 16:21

So I'm surrounded by my family woods when I walk outside. There you go.

SPEAKER_01: 16:25

Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, I live in the country, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 16:28

I think it's crazy. Somebody might think that I'm more country than you because there, for whatever reason, people think that I sound country, and I'm like, no, the fuck I don't. Yes, you do, nigga. I do not country, I don't sound country. Maybe I have a southern accent, that's fine. I sound country. Okay, not in a negative way. You don't sound like no, I don't take it as a negative whatever you say, but I don't sound country. Because I'm not from the country, I'm southern, I'm from the south. I will take you have a southern dialect accent, twang. All that is fine with me. Don't tell me I'm country. Who I'm not country, I'm not from the fucking country.

SPEAKER_02: 17:09

Who from the locker room? Who from the locker room can I call?

SPEAKER_04: 17:13

I'm gonna let you pick. Well, Josh Holsey would be the first person that I would honestly reach out to. That's he was my first call. We can't call him. He's not an option. It's eight o'clock. We might can get Boink on the phone. Let's hold that for later in the show.

SPEAKER_02: 17:30

We can get him towards the actually, because No, no, I was only calling to refute your claim that you're not country. I wasn't calling it. I'm not country.

SPEAKER_04: 17:37

I'm not country, but I mean, I guess it's fair to ask one of them, but like none of nobody thinks I am not country. Like that that's the point. I'm not country. Because I'm not. And and and Boink is honestly perfect because Boink is from the same area that I'm from. So is Boink country? The fuck? I mean, what are we? It's more so your accent. Yeah, but does that accent what is that attributed to? Because you've heard my dad speak. Do you think he's country? I don't think so. I think that he says things like commode. There are things that give away where he's from, but I don't my family says commode. Yeah, well, because but but my dad is from the country, and he's the only parent from the country. My mom is from urban city, Wilmington, Delaware. Like, she's not she wasn't country at all. Like, did do you think justice is country? Yes. Wow. Country accent, absolutely. Lair certainly didn't sound country. I don't know. I mean, I know you were, you know, at the funeral. I don't think Taris and Donis are country. Like, I just I don't know. I just I don't know. You know? You know. I don't think I'm country. That's my point. I might wear a Georgia hat, I might have ripped denim. I'm not country though. I'm just from the South.

SPEAKER_02: 19:12

I just couldn't read it. I just didn't know what it what it said. I'm not playing these games with AI bots today.

SPEAKER_04: 19:20

Yeah, well, that's fine.

SPEAKER_02: 19:22

You know, they tried to get us last week, but I guess we should talk about the most pressing news.

SPEAKER_04: 19:30

Uh, you want to hit the theme music? Because I actually feel like doing this.

SPEAKER_02: 19:46

The Falcons have their guy. Falcons hire Kevin Safans get to be the new head coach. Parley Pete at Bake Pie on socials. What are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_04: 20:00

B plus. I'll go ahead and get ahead of it. In terms of the initial hire, when I first heard it, I said B plus. And here's why. To me, he was the best available candidate in terms of for what it is that you want. And what it is that we wanted was three things offensive-minded, experienced, and uh younger. He's 43. He's coached as a head coach in the NFL for six years. And he's an offensive-minded coach with an offensive background. Obviously, he has spent years with the Vikings organization. Think about it. Before he went to Cleveland, that was literally all he knew. He had been with the Vikings since 2006. So think of that. He was with Brad Childress, uh, Zimmer. Um he's so, you know, he's got a network. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's three different guys that he was able to stay in the building for. Three different tenures. And each of those coaches honestly had success. Brad Childress, obviously, Brett Favre, NFC championship, like Adrian Peterson's uh getting drafted. Uh Zimmer went to an NFC championship as well. A lot of success under his and a former Falcon himself, uh defensive coordinator. And then uh obviously, uh what's his face? Uh the current head coach, uh drawing a blank. Help me, Lee. Uh I can see him.

SPEAKER_02: 21:32

Kevin. Kevin O'Connell. Yeah, there we go.

SPEAKER_04: 21:34

So he's been under three different uh regimes at one organization, gets hired by the Browns. Obviously, maybe before now, Detroit would have been in the race with them as the two worst franchises in the NFL. Cleveland still, I think low-key ultimately holds that title.

SPEAKER_02: 21:53

Um, the Sean Watson trade is a is a is an example of it.

SPEAKER_04: 21:59

Yeah, I was gonna say an A-word that you normally use about what that was. I don't know if I I don't want to be that insensitive on these clips. And so um A-word. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, exactly. That's what that trade was. Wow, wow, what I didn't want to say. You're gonna implicate your man's like that on camera? Nobody has the tea leaves, they don't even know what I'm talking about. Oh, that's it might start with an A and an S. What do you how do we know what word I'm even talking about? Could be ass. It was the most ass trade, Lee. God, I didn't want to say ask. And uh I don't want to I don't want to do that type of stuff. But the point is, is that um this is a guy that came from that organization. This is one of the worst organizations ever, and it was one of the few things that they did right by hiring him. He's a two-time coach of the year. Notice how I didn't even bring that up in terms of the three check marks that I needed for my head coach. That was a bonus. Fuck him winning coach of the year, honestly. I think it's impressive, it's great. Bill Belichick might have two coaches of the year, and he's coaching the National Football League for 20 plus years. So it's great that he has those, but that's not even why I like to hire. I like to hire because at the end of the day, he's bringing things that the organization needs. Um, and I know that we're gonna get into everything outside of the hire, but from X's and O's standpoint, this guy was the right hire. He was the best available hire. Mike McCarthy would have been the only other person, if we're talking about resumes that you wanted to bring in. Um, and then I know a lot of people wanted Clint Kubiak because, of course, the night that we hired him, they put up 41 on um San Francisco and they're in the NFC Championship. But what people fail to realize is that we've already hired a hot Seattle coordinator once. It ended or it ended badly, started great. Uh, obviously, went to the Super Bowl with DQ, and DQ's landing on the street and has a coaching job again. But like, no man, we needed somebody that had experience. This guy's got experience. We needed an offensive mind of coach if you believe in Michael Penix, or even without believing in Michael Penix, you're gonna eventually need to replace him too. You need somebody that's gonna be able to work with that quarterback because everything else is in place. Exactly. And and in Cleveland, he didn't have these things in place. He had a when he first got there, he had Baker Mayfield, who many had looked at and said, I don't know. Basically, that's what Baker was at that point. He was a mmm, I don't know type of guy. Oh, we saw flashes when Freddie Kitchens was calling plays as rookie year. Yeah, he was an I don't know guy. And actually, I went to the game where he went off because I went, the Falcons played them. I was at that game. I paid$120 to sit on the front row at the 50-yard line in the freezing cold. And again, Baker was the I don't know guy. But he gets there, what happens? Baker wins 11 games. They go to the playoffs. People are talking about Baker might need an extension. Which everybody knows if you're a quarterback that got drafted by a team, there is no such thing as a Sam Darnold, Geno Smith deal for those guys. Now, they might not get the supermax, basically. The the highest like Bryce Young is not gonna be the highest paid quarterback if the Panthers go eight and nine again and they decide to keep him. They're not gonna pay him$60 million, but he will get 40 over three years with two of those years guaranteed. They're gonna pay him well. He'll get 20 million a year. And we got we got King Atlanta supporter one. I'm just happy changes in Atlanta. We love it, we love it. Uh that's kind of how we feel. There needed to be some change.

SPEAKER_02: 25:53

I love that picture too. Hey, add to the notes that we should talk about MLK as more house makers.

SPEAKER_04: 25:57

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. But um, yeah, I get I guess my thing is this. It's just this hire, it shouldn't be as polarizing as it's been. And I know that you'll probably, I mean, you're we're gonna hear your thoughts on this shortly just from the X's and O's, and we'll get to kind of the outside noise of it. But I just think that it's it's the right hire. Uh, in terms of what's available, there isn't anything better that the Falcons could have done from an X's and O's standpoint. There wasn't a better hire. It checked the most boxes. So I'm happy with the hire. Um obviously, I wish, yes, I wish that we could have gotten somebody sexier. Yeah, of course I do. But in this hiring cycle, I like this hire.

SPEAKER_02: 26:45

Hey, sexy guys aren't usually single. Exactly. Then, right, and then there's that aspect of it. Except for Mike Vrabel, who we had in the building.

SPEAKER_04: 26:54

But and and and this isn't this isn't college football quarterbacks where everybody just wants to transfer every year. They can't be that sexy guy, they can't be the sexy guy that can just pick and choose who they want to fuck. They're not Leonardo DiCaprio, where they can just, I'm getting on the next hot train as soon as it's available. That's just not the way that the NFL works from the coaching standpoint. So Savannah. What were your thoughts?

SPEAKER_02: 27:18

All right. So you went to the grading system. I'm gonna give it an S. Just satisfactory, huh?

SPEAKER_04: 27:28

No, show me on Sundays. And and King Support One, honestly, I agree with you on this, and we'll get to that. Um, but I did want to just acknowledge you. So if we ignore you for a minute, please just stay with us. But I do appreciate you chiming in. But but yeah, absolutely. The general manager does need to be a tough person, it needs to be somebody that commands respect of everybody.

SPEAKER_02: 27:51

And speaking of giving grades an S, hey man, anybody watching the show, man, hit that S and subscribe. Subscribe to this channel so you can see all the content that we put out our weekly shows, so on and so forth. Uh, but I give it an S. Show me on Sunday starting in September. I don't care about the head coach and hire, I don't care about the Matt Ryan, I don't care about who the GM's gonna be, I don't care about who we draft, I don't care about who we pick up in free agency because I've cared about these things year in and year out, and the thoughts and cares and analysis and so on and so forth did not matter because we didn't win on Sunday. And over the last five years going to Falcons games, watching Falcons games, every season we legitimately could have won ten or eleven games. And we won seven or eight. And in those seasons of winning seven or eight, nigga, we could have won like three. Like that is really the difference in these games, like a swing here, a swing there, a season and season. So that led me to believe, hey, the margins are super slim in the NFL, even when like that, that that ass whooping by the by the Panthers, we watched that we both watched that game and said, Oh, they didn't really beat us that bad. It was this, this, this, all of this makes sense. The score was misleading. Yeah, the score did not was not a reflection of the game. Like our offense actually was better than theirs, but we couldn't do shit inside the red zone. So it was just weird. So in saying that it doesn't matter. If Stefansky's the right guy, but the GM's the wrong guy, it doesn't work. If Stefansky's right, the GM's right, but they can't get quarterback, it doesn't work. If Stefansky and Brick don't don't mesh, it doesn't work. If we have a rash of injuries, it doesn't work. So instead of getting caught up on predictions as a fan, just show me on Sundays starting in September, man.

SPEAKER_04: 30:07

That's such a cop-out answer, Lee. We want to we yes, we that's ultimately what we want, but we want to know what you actually think about the hire, not what you hope to see and and and your optimism.

SPEAKER_02: 30:19

I want to know truly, do you think that this was a good hire? He met the wickets of what I wanted the Falcons to uh prioritize.

SPEAKER_04: 30:28

So he checked your boxes as well.

SPEAKER_02: 30:30

Yes. I I am based on based on past performance, I'm happy with Kevin Stefansky. And as we transition this into the more spicy part of the conversation, uh getting into some hard R behavior. Yes. Um I I I saw the I saw the graphic of Stefansky side by side with Raheem Morris over the last two years. I heard what they said on the arena. You know, I there's some more stuff going around. Here's what I want y'all to know. A lot of these people did not watch the Falcons, do not watch the Falcons. A lot of these people did not watch the Browns, do not watch the Browns.

SPEAKER_04: 31:18

Nope.

SPEAKER_02: 31:19

And also some of your favorite sports analysts, especially some of these retired athletes who aren't on on networks, they're not they're not watching all the games and they're not listening to people talk about it. So they're not getting any type of true perspective outside of a game here, a game there, what's on the four letters, and and and and a little bit of Twitter and and and the media narratives, right? So compare Raheem's last two years to Kevin Stefansky and said, Oh, Raheem Morris won more games uh than Kevin Stefansky, why would you fire this guy and hire that guy? Uh here's why. Raheem had a better roster, a better situation, and a better opportunity to win games. And although he won more games than Stefansky, he won less games than he was expected to. Now, Stefansky was expected to win games because he's Kevin Stefansky and he went to the playoffs twice in six years, but starting this year twice in five years in Cleveland, a place that doesn't go to the playoffs ever, right? He overachieved his contract, his time with the team. And he had legitimate reasons for losing. They traded away their future for Deshaun Watson, who wasn't good and uh was hurt, and then reports said he didn't like Kevin Stefansky didn't want him. Kevin Stefansky can be wrong for not wanting Deshaun Watson and not putting Deshaun Watson in the best uh predicament to win. But if your coach doesn't want a player, you can't mortgage the franchise for that player and then expect a coach to win if it doesn't work. Like sometimes shit's gotta make sense. You know, I was having a conversation with a guy today, and he was telling me that yeah, we suck for high for highest Kevin Safansky, he sucks. And I'm like, okay, maybe. Let's see. Like he he he was like, bruh, he sucks. I'm like, no, he coached in Cleveland and made it to the playoffs. You can't, those two things can't exist.

SPEAKER_04: 33:26

You can't I've never heard anyone say a couple somebody that's won two coaches of the years is sucks, right? So who so who the fuck was doing it for him? So Miles Garrett was just carrying the whole baggage, huh? In Cleveland this whole time. He carried the baggage the entire time. Because Baker Mayfield played on three other teams since he was gone when he won the first one. Then the second one, he had six or seven quarterbacks starting for him, and he went to the playoffs and he pulled Joe Flacco off the fucking couch. And Joe Flacco has been employed ever since. But somehow, some way, he's the issue. Hey, it's nigger logic, is what it is, Lee. That's what this is. It's nigger logic. It's like some people don't even listen to themselves.

SPEAKER_02: 34:17

Listen to more of this nigga logic, right? Then we start talking about because he's a Tampa Bay fan.

SPEAKER_04: 34:24

He's already got his bias anyway.

SPEAKER_02: 34:26

So, but then he starts saying, We need to fire top, topows. But fire tar balls. He sucks. This and that. I go. I was like, he's won the division every year except for one as the head coach. He has the best record in the division since he's taken over as the head coach. Why are you firing him? No, look at what we're doing. I'm like, y'all haven't had a Super Bowl roster since the Super Bowl season.

SPEAKER_04: 34:55

Well, I don't know about that, but go on. Maybe the next year, but nobody expects you to repeat. One, two years after, I mean, they could have beat Detroit that divisional game. With Baker, they could have yeah, they could have won that game. Yes, but again, uh they weren't expect that was a good thing. They weren't expected to. You're right. The expectation was not that. This year was if anything right, even more reason why you don't find him, not to cut you off, but he overachieved.

SPEAKER_02: 35:21

Yes, this year was the first year that Tampa underachieved since Todd Bowles has been the coach. And our division, not the records, the actual teams, the players on the field better than you think if you did not watch the NFC South. The way that Carolina could have upset the team that's in the NFC Championship and already beat them in the regular season, but they were eight and nine. We were eight and nine, but we beat the Bills. We could have beat the. And we beat the Rams too. We beat the Bills and we beat the Rams. We could have beat the Patriots. We were in the game against San Fran.

SPEAKER_04: 36:04

But we lost to the Jets and we lost to the Dolphins. Right. There's our season in a nutshell. That's the Falcons.

SPEAKER_02: 36:10

But but my point being is hey, these teams are good. None of them are Super Bowl teams, but the the the top the three, eight, nine teams all could have easily been 11-win teams, and they would have been talked about differently. The Saints gave people fits.

SPEAKER_04: 36:25

Once Shuck got in there, they were giving people fits. I mean, they were those games were competitive. You know what I'm saying? Like, like they were covering these ridiculous 11, 12-point spreads.

SPEAKER_02: 36:37

Yeah, and so I'm and I'm going back and forth with this guy, and I said, Why are you firing him? He he he underachieved this year, but Baker was hurt.

SPEAKER_04: 36:47

And this wasn't even a sexy coaching hiring cycle. No, there were there are only about two, again, which I think Stefanski was one of them. There's only about two or three guys that were truly desirable. Everybody else was going to be a retread, which I guess Stefanski is. Well, they all are retreads, right? But like two unappossible because LaFleur was the possible. He and right, but until he's available, he's unavailable, right? And that's how you have to view it, anyways.

SPEAKER_02: 37:16

Like right, so and I'm telling this dude, I'm like, why would you change the entire culture of your organization because of one down year? But again, you had the best, you you were tied for the best record in your division, so you want you you it was a down year, but you you practically broke even, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04: 37:41

Lee Lee, it's it's it's just like anything else. Again, overreactions. We we live in an overreacting society, and it's a microwave society. We want things now, and if something's not being done now, it's uh everything's always gonna be what have you done for me lately, but uh like we forget, like we have quick memories, everybody has a quick memory. Uh you don't you don't remember anything that's already happened, and you look at well, what happened today? And it that's that's just the issue of where we're at. When you brought it up earlier with Stefansky winning four games in Cleveland, but Ra winning eight games here. If the NFC South is the worst division in football, and I would argue the NFC AFC North is the best normally, right? Like by so he's going against Burrow Tomlin Steelers. Well, and we can even just say it fucking Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. They're expected to finish last. This is like, this is like this is like Kentucky or Vanderbilt finishing 7-6 in the SEC and then, or 6-6 in the SEC, and then I'm sorry, and yeah, in the SEC, and then you look at the ACC, and with Raheem, we are Miami or you know, Florida State, but we're 7-5, we're 8-4, and you're supposed to be the Krimdale, or we're Clemson, actually. You've got all this talent. There's no other team really in your division that's in your way. Why the fuck are you going eight and four? Why do you have three conference losses? What is that all about? It's the same thing. I and it's not to just compare it to crossover, because we're gonna get to college football too, but like it's not to come cross-compare, but the point is that you've got this top-tier division that this guy's been coaching in. He's won two coaches of the year. He's won a football, a playoff football game in Cleveland against a division rival on the road, Ben Robertsburg's last game. He goes in, they beat the shit out of him. They hadn't won a playoff game since 1994. Baker wasn't born yet, cuz. Wait, we got a comment here because this is important. You young men don't understand the racism that exists in the NFL. Stefanski is getting rewarded for his sabotage of the black QB. Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02: 40:08

No, let me get this one. Let me get this one. All right. We do understand that racism exists in the NFL. But we're not talking about race in the NFL. And when we talk about the NFL, we already know that racism exists, and that is queued up into our answers. But see, we're not here to make political stances all the time. We're just talking ball the way sports people want to talk sports. So we're not bringing all that extra shit into it directly. You indirectly inject that into your analysis. Okay. That's the first point. Two, he did he did it wrong by who? Shador? A fifth round pick that the entire league passed over for at least four times. You don't owe a fifth round pick shit. And guess what? They had a third-round pick at quarterback in front of him. I think Shador should have gone before the fifth round. I think Shador should have gone over Dylan Gabriel. I think Shador should have been above Dylan Gabriel throughout the entire process once they saw them play, okay? But that's not how it happened. In the business of it, Joe Flacco, the guy who last led them to the playoffs, it's his job. Ken Pickett, a guy who's an NFL who's been in the NFL and played quarterback for multiple seasons. Was a backup on a Super Bowl team the year before. Backup on the Super Bowl team the year before and has been on a play.

SPEAKER_04: 41:38

And as a former first round pick, where those guys normally do get more opportunities just because of that alone. Right.

SPEAKER_02: 41:46

So Ken Pickett is slotted at second. You have to be a lot better than him to beat him. A lot better.

SPEAKER_04: 41:54

But that's the key word. A lot better. Not because he's black. You just have to be, you've got to show something. And I didn't want to cut you off, but like, and again, I share the same sentiments as you in terms of Shador. Like, I like Shador. I thought he should have gone higher, but like, and I think he's better than Dylan Gabriel.

SPEAKER_02: 42:13

Kevin's defensive is an out of the way. But let me tie it up on the business, right? Because Shador, the fifth-round pick, the four-string quarterback, does not get the opportunity to show how good he is because of where he falls on the depth chart, okay? Because you only get so many reps. The first team got to get their chemistry reps to win games. Your second string quarterback has to get his reps to be able to be a backup and develop the second unit. And then Dylan Gabriel and Shador are now getting developmental reps to learn how to be pros. The guy who got drafted in the third round versus the fifth round gets more reps. So Shador had so many legitimate roadblocks in front of him that delayed his opportunity to show his talent. All legitimate that using race is weak and it's bullshit, even if it's true. Because there are multiple reasons why Shador had to wait. And I'm not saying it's fair, I'm not saying it's right, but that's the business of professional sports. And I think we need and it's back in this hard R shit. We need less people talking about sports who don't take the time to understand the business of sports. I'm not saying you gotta watch ESPN, Fox, FS1 all day, listen to podcasts all day. No, but you should listen to people.

SPEAKER_04: 43:41

If anything, we don't want you, but we I wouldn't want you to listen to them because those are the people that carry off bad narratives. I would not tell you to don't drink from a toxic fountain if you're thirsty. Stephen A. Smith, and this is no shots of Steve. Look, I hope, you know, I never know who's watching. Keith Smith might be Stephen A on fucking YouTube watching us right now, making this comment. I don't know. But what I do know is that you will get these toxic takes from these people that will put this stuff out because they've got to make money off of it too. It's the business of fucking talking about it.

unknown: 44:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 44:18

They will do it too. Max Kellerman's already said it himself. Yes, white man talking about black man. Yes, right. But the thing is, they he's already laid it out. And I know that he's not lying. He ain't lying because that's what it looks like, anyways. These takes and stuff get put out to get people talking because it does create more conversation. It's content. Like it's content. But like the idea that anyone thinks that Kevin Stefanski getting hired by the Falcons should matter because Shador played for the Browns and is a black quarterback, and his dad just so happened to be a Falcons Ring of Honor member. This is ridiculous. It's fucking ridiculous, bro. Deion Sanders claims the Falcons, and I appreciate Prime. We do. Like Atlanta loves prime time. They do. His classic jersey at Walters, like as a kid, when I would go to Walters, when we would get Jordan, somebody went to church with us just so happened to be a manager. So that's how we got the Jade. Um that's a classic jersey. You go to South Decad Mall. They own Sanders.

SPEAKER_02: 45:30

I got a prom jersey in the room. Remember that's the jersey?

SPEAKER_04: 45:35

And that's the original. Well, and that's it in our original picture for the show. That's what you're wearing. So this this Atlanta loves prom. Yes, true. We love prom. That that don't have nothing to fucking do with this goddamn hire. And people need to leave that out of this. This doesn't have anything to do with it. Shador was not done wrong. Whether Stefanski wanted him to be his quarterback or not, is honestly irrelevant. It's irrelevant on two different levels. A, at the end of the day, he fucking started the last seven games. So he went to him anyways. And that's job saving time for him. One way or another, right? Either that or the writing was already on the wall. He knew he was fired. And he's like, well, I'm gonna just give the fans and the fucking owner, whoever wanted to draft them, I'm gonna give them what they want so they can see. Okay, so be it. But then there's two. At the end of the day, man, Prime don't run shit here. He didn't want to. Deion Sanders played here for five goddamn years, dog. I don't give a fuck how much Prime Love Atlanta. We love Prime, but like he played for the Braves too, right? Like, like, I mean, he's a he's a one he's a he's a generational athlete, but like at the same time, I don't Deion Sanders don't run shit here. That nigga don't run shit here. No, Matt Ryan does actually. And and and I feel like it's almost deeper rooted. Now, this is me playing into it. I almost feel like it's deeper rooted into where people are really criticizing this more because it goes back to the hate for Matt Ryan that people have had. He's a polarizing figure here, just as the chemist of fancy hire is. It's just as polarizing. People either loved Matt Ryan or hated Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan got the blame whenever we lost, and then when we won, it was about man, well, Julio, Devontae, fucking damn Quinn was gonna get credit before Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan won MVP and don't get no goddamn credit from certain people.

SPEAKER_02: 47:29

Bro, fuck his MVP season.

SPEAKER_04: 47:32

Yeah, we can no no no hold on.

SPEAKER_02: 47:34

No, seriously, throw that throw the MVP season in the trash, and he still is that dude. He's near and and you know I'm not a Matt Ryan truther, like you were probably a sympathizer, but like but hit he earned his nickname Matty Ice because he ice in his veins. Yeah, you were like, do you remember? No, you remember like in college when oh we're down two fourth quarter, three minutes left. We got the ball back. It's like, oh shit, we might get a touchdown. Man, we might score too fast. Like, do you like you remember the you remember the Baltimore game?

SPEAKER_04: 48:15

The Baltimore game and the Chicago game. Those are two games I specifically remember.

SPEAKER_02: 48:21

The Baltimore game, I was I was and that was the Thursday night football game. Yes. So ROTC was working the concession stand that day. Really? For fundraiser, yes. They were making y'all niggas work for free. No, no, no, no, no. We we we made it was we made money for the unit. And if you if you worked at the beer stand, you got tips. So that was pocket money.

SPEAKER_04: 48:42

But I'm saying y'all work for free. Outside, I mean you guess you're getting donations, but I'm saying the Navy did not. I'm sorry, the ROTC did not pay you guys.

SPEAKER_02: 48:50

No, we did not get paid, but the company paid our ROTC a lot of money.

SPEAKER_04: 48:56

So we could go to get that free labor.

SPEAKER_02: 48:58

Yeah, so we could go, so people could go to balls like you. You know, you came to our ball and shit.

SPEAKER_04: 49:02

Hey man, look, I got invited. I didn't invite myself. A bunch of horseshit, if you ask me. Apparently, I took uh the hottie of the unit too. I didn't even know she was the hottest chick. She was attractive, but like, you know.

SPEAKER_02: 49:14

We don't talk about her on this broadcast.

SPEAKER_04: 49:16

I look, I'm just saying she might listen. Really? Yeah. What was her name?

SPEAKER_02: 49:24

I'm not gonna say that out loud here.

SPEAKER_04: 49:26

We'll do it off air. Shout out to you though. I'm sure she'll remember if she watches.

SPEAKER_02: 49:33

But no, um, so I I I leave my post to walk out and watch that last drive. And it was just beautiful. So I say all of that to say that yo, Matt Ryan, yeah, we did blow leads a lot at the end of his career, but that's not who he always was. And the the hate for Matt Ryan and now remember, I'm gonna sound like a sellout. And if you know me, if you listen to what we talk about on here, you know I'm not. Tell your truth, brother. But this is some of the like this is the black racist shit that black people don't admit that bothered. The reverse racism. Yeah, like hey dog, if you are that type of person, cool. Own it. And at the same time, don't if you're gonna be a re or if you're gonna be a racist that's just not in power, don't be mad when racist people in power treat you like they're racist.

SPEAKER_04: 50:38

Because well, come to come to me with some goddamn facts about the situation. Let's let's start there. Where the fuck are your facts at? Bring some fucking facts to the table. The fact of the matter is that Matt Ryan is top 10 statistically in every quarterbacking metric, and this guy didn't play book for 14 years. Which Brady Brees, these niggas that are ahead of him, they all played more years. Phillip Rivers played longer than Matt Ryan. Ben Robinson, everybody that is ahead of him played longer than him. Matt Ryan was on the trajectory. That's why every time the Falcons, when he would they're like Matt Ryan threw for 30,000 yards, he's the fastest to do this in NFL history. Matt Ryan's trajectory was to go there. He fell off faster. He did. But at the end of the day, I just think that the Matt Ryan hate has to stop. We gotta stop this man. I've seen these theories, and look, they're a minority, they're a very small minority within the Falcons fan base. But you see this stuff, these theories of people of like, man, let's hire Michael Vick to be the coach. Michael Vick is the fucking coach at uh uh Hampton. Norfolk State. Uh Norfolk, I'm sorry, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 51:47

Norfolk is one of them, some of them.

SPEAKER_04: 51:49

No, it's Norfolk State. I was gonna say Delaware State, but that's uh Deshaun Jackson. But the point is, he's the head coach there, and people really, really think that. Or hire Prime, who's been at Colorado had won nothing. Yeah, let's bring Prime in to be the head coach of the Falcons. That'll that'll fucking do this. And then people start talking about well, the business sports aspect of it, that would sell tickets. No, the fuck it wouldn't. Who the fuck do you think buys Falcons tickets, nigga? Anybody, anybody that actually owns Falcons tickets knows that the same people that speak this nonsense can't afford the shit. Yes, young Thug or or DC Young Fly. Yeah, I'm sure he could buy some season tickets if he wanted to. They invite that nigga to the game for free, anyways. Them niggas go to the game for free. They're not normal people. The normal people that are black that talk about this, I'm just saying, I'm not saying it's all of them because there are some that can't afford it. But for the most part, these are tailgators that are saying this. These are Twitter fingers, these are motherfuckers that ain't never been to Mercedes-Benz Stadium saying this. Hey, hey, and I'm not even trying to get classism on people, but I'm just saying I know how much it costs to go to the game, and it's just like, no, hiring prime is not gonna go, ticket sales are not gonna fucking go up. You want to know what's gonna make ticket sales go up? Winning football games. Hey, parlay P. Yeah, you know I'm passionate about this, man.

SPEAKER_02: 53:12

Bro, bro, the people the people who have the strong opinions go to church on Sunday and eat Sunday dinner with their family and watch the game.

SPEAKER_04: 53:24

They don't even have strong opinions, Lee. They got opinions. They're not strong. The opinion isn't strong. That's the issue. It's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's deeply rooted, but it ain't a strong opinion because there's no factual evidence to back up even their their theory. Like they don't even, for their opinion, they can't even give facts to support it. Like it's a weak argument. It's it's it's fucking fodder, bro. Like, that's what it is. It's fodder.

SPEAKER_02: 53:52

And even and even in in in specific arguments, when they're right, it's not because of their logic.

SPEAKER_04: 54:04

What are they right about? Give me an example of somebody like this is thinking and what they're right about.

SPEAKER_02: 54:09

I can't think of one specifically, but I'm just saying, if you're doing a a Falcon's like conversation, right? You're doing some predictions and some debate, most of what they will get right, it's not backed in any type of logic, reason, like repeatable process. It's no nigga. I just yeah, like like when you say why is Mike Vick, you when you say, like, why is Mike Vick better, and this isn't right at all, but when you say why is Mike Vick a better Falcon than Matt Ryan, right? Did you nigga did you watch him? That nigga that nigga Vic Fa. Yeah, I had his jersey.

SPEAKER_04: 54:48

I watched him. I say this all the time on this show. He was great. I loved Mike. I mean I think I had a red seven jersey again. I had a red seven jersey too. I know you know this, but I'm just saying for anyone out there that does not agree with how I'm assessing their opinion. I am a Michael Vick fan. I love the way that he's turned his life around and has get gets on Fox and then is the head coach at Norfolk State now. I fucking love that. Michael Vick is always gonna be a Falcon. I love the last home game of the regular season of the Super Bowl year. We played the Saints, we won that game to quench the number two seed, and Michael Vick finally got to get Serenade. Michael Vick had not been back. We fucking I have it on Snapchat as one of my memories. I love the moment. He was the last person they introduced to come out for the last home regular season game against our biggest rival. And like everybody loved that Mike Vick was back. That did not change what Matt Ryan's done. And it's not about Matt Ryan, but like it's about the hate and the and the and the hard offense. Because they're linked together because basically everybody looks at the the blame duck year from Bobby Petrino. We don't even talk about anything about that season, but that's what's set up for Matt Ryan to come in. So he's the successor in reality. It's not Joey Harrington, it's not you know Byron Leftwich, it's not Chris Redden, it's Matt Ryan. That's the successor to Michael Vick. And the idea that this white guy comes in, he wins 11 games, wins rookie of the year, and fucking goes to the playoffs and has five straight winning seasons when we never had back-to-back winning seasons in our history. It's oh well, well, he's still not better than Vic. Look at what Vic had. Vic had fucking a Pro Bowl running back in Warwick Dunn, who's a minority owner, who is one of the best good guys in NFL history. Uh, he had Algie Crumpler, a three-time type uh Pro Bowl, four-time Pro Bowler. One of one of certainly one of the better Falcons ever. But you know, you let's Pierless Price. Wait, wait, wait, real quick. Pierless Price, as much as we want to dog shit on him, Pierce Price had 1200 yards receiving the year before they signed him. Arthur Blake was doing Rich McCain, too. They did what they should have done. Now, I would have traded for Randy Moss if you could have got him or you know from the Vikings. Yes, that's what you do, or TO before he goes to Philly, but they got Pierless Price. That's who they saw. Pierce Price had 1,200 yards. They added him. It sucks that he didn't fucking do anything. They got Jimmy Horn, who was kind of, I mean, he's washed up. Joe Horn, but he had yeah, I said Jimmy. Joe Horn, who uh look at me. Thanks. Um, but uh yeah, they got they got him who had been in those Saints Falcons games, the games that people care about. The people that talk about it, the one game that they might have gone to. That's who they got, he was washed up by that point. Brian Fenneran, always injured, fourth-round pick Villanova. Uh not even fourth-round pick, wide receiver four, Villanova. He would catch some balls. We had the number one run defense in the NFL at that time. Pat Kearney was a consistent double-digit set guy. We had a good defense with those teams. Maybe Jim Moore wasn't the right coach. I don't know. Dan Reeves was at the start of the Michael Vick era Hall of Fame. Well, not in the Hall of Fame, but uh very good coach. Very good. Most of the cop was coach in Falcons history at the end of the day. Wait, even the four Super Bowls? Yeah. Yeah, like Dan, and people forget it wasn't just with Denver. Dan was the Giants coach too. Dan coach. Uh, and he was an NFL player and was a pretty good running back for the Cowboys in the 60s. So it's like, I don't, you know what I'm saying? I just I I guess I look at it from the standpoint of Atlanta needs to wake up uh in terms of uh their fandom. And I'm glad because I just looked at this, and you know that this sits on my desk, and I still have this to this day. That who is that, Lee?

SPEAKER_02: 58:45

Mike Vick.

SPEAKER_04: 58:46

I have a Michael Vick nerf ball that I kept that my mom got me, and it's still in its packaging from that day. I she bought two of them. I opened up one, it already got fucked up a long time ago. But I keep still keep this as a keepsake. I still have uh a home and away Michael Vick jerseys from before the jerseys changed. I'm a big I'm team Michael Vick. I love that Madden. It was on my 10th birthday, I'll never forget it. Madden 03. I turned 10 that year. 04, but it was 03 when it was.

SPEAKER_03: 59:23

Yeah, it was year 03, but it was Madden 04.

SPEAKER_04: 59:25

I was 10 because I'm born in '93. But my point is, is that like I love Mike Vick. I do. But we gotta stop this, man. We really gotta stop this. This is not even a Matt Ryan defense, it's more of a can we hop off the Vic sack already? The nigga did not, we did not, he made amazing plays, man. We went to one NFC championship, and the I'll never forget the Packers playoff win. I promise I won't. It was great, but we never stood a chance to win a Super Bowl, and he fucked the franchise in reality, which really helped it because we did get Matt Ryan because of what he did.

SPEAKER_02: 59:58

All right, so I'm gonna close. I'm gonna close out the Falcons with this. All of this you know, niggas are talking about wait, we got one more thing by the way.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:14

Understand Shador is in Cleveland and Stefansky is in Atlanta because he tried to convince the world that Gay real yeah, okay.

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Okay, no, but look, we agree. I agree.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:30

Yeah, cool, cool. Yeah, we just keep it moving.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:32

Uh that we're not but we agree, no, no, no. I I and we appreciate you, Keith, for viewing and commenting, but we agree with that sediment, like we agree.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:41

Cool, yeah, yeah, but I'm trying to close out a topic, and his comments just isn't relevant to the topic, and like we closed out that topic too, like yeah, we should have checked it earlier. Sorry, dog.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:52

But uh three minutes ago, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:56

But but no, it's it's this city culture, identity, and all of that stuff, and Falcons fans need to be honest about who they are, or people who watch the Falcons and claim to be fans, right? You need to be honest about who you are and what you want. Do you want your team to be good, or do you want your team to be good the way that you want it to be good? So if you want your team to be good the way that you want it to be good, you're not truly a Falcons fan. Just like many Lakers fans in my age bracket, they're not true Lakers fans, they were Kobe fans because once LeBron went there, they didn't like the Lakers as much. It's not a shot, it's not a shot at them. But no, no, no. I'm being I'm I'm not even being funny here. It's if you are a fan of the team, excuse me, yes, you have allegiances to players, but ultimately you want the team to be good. It doesn't matter who's making the team.

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:47

The NBA isn't fairly, and you know that.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:49

No, I know, but I I'm only making just I'm just I know I get to correlation. I'm sorry, I don't want to interrupt you. So with this Falcon stuff, hey, we just had a black coach and a black GM. It did not work. It's not because they're black, it's because of a lot of things. But let's not try to say, hey, let's go get another black coach and a black GM. How about we go get the best coach and the best GM? Like, like for the for the black people who want to lead with race, why does why do niggas gotta be black to do a job for a team that you support? Like it don't matter if you want the team to win, you just want the team to win. And if you're really trying to be on your pro-black shit and you're racially aware stuff, it's like, bro, do you know how many black people are being taken advantage of by the NFL and by you actually supporting the league and buying this stuff and going to these games and talking about it? You are you are supporting uh black people being marginalized, even though some of them are highly compensated? Like you're talking about a league that doesn't have black owners? Like there's not a majority black owner, you uh a league with not many black executives. In that critical, there's not one black owner.

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:24

Well, and they'll get one chance to be the head coach. I don't want to cut, I'm sorry for cutting you off. I just you're you're you're spitting, brother. Continue.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:31

And and but then, like, if you're an OC because you coach offense, that means makes you a better head coach, even though being a good head coach honestly has nothing to do with your play calling. It can, but it doesn't have to. It's running an organization. So it's like, what do y'all niggas want, bro? Like, hey, if you want, hey, if you want a team ran by niggas, the Atlanta way, you you raise up the money and and you offer Arthur a deal that he can't walk away from, and you name him the East Atlanta Birds. Yeah. But but no, take like, dog, stop. And everything, even though race matters in everything, everything doesn't have to be about race. Sometimes we can be blissfully ignorant. Sometimes we can say, hey, I don't care if this is an oppressive thing that's happening to black people right now. I fucking enjoy it. Because you niggas still wear a Nike. And guess what? People in other countries are being oppressed to make that Nike at the price that you buy it at. And guess what? Those margins look great even when a stock price isn't. Like niggas ain't taking pay cuts. So, like stop like just stop being a moralist. Have your moral standards where you want to have your moral standards and all of that stuff. But but dog, get off, but miss me with all of that. Oh, Dion doesn't like Safanski because he fucked over Shador. What the fuck Shador got to do with what we're doing in Atlanta? He's a fifth-round pick. Nothing pick.

SPEAKER_04: 1:05:07

Nothing. It it has nothing to do with it. And again, and we'll put a bow on this thing and close it up, and maybe it'll get revisited at some point, certainly around the draft or whatever, since now our coaching staff is pretty much um set in stone. But yeah, which none of us people want to talk about outrage. Let's get outrageous about that. Let's get outrageous that he's bringing him with him. That's that guy who I don't like, uh Robinson or Zach Robinson. Is that what's that? Oh, well, Zach's and to your Tampa Bay point, I meant to bring this up when I did the FCC ACC comparison. Zach Robinson got a second interview for OC with the Bucs. Now I'm not complaining, but if there's anything that your buddy should be complaining about, that's what he should be scared of. He should be afraid of that. He's worried about the wrong people. Because they've had two offensive coordinators that were in the playoffs this year. He needs to be worried about that. Maybe Ty Bowles ain't the reason for the season, but at the end of the day, he's the head man and he was able to manage that and then pick the right guy to promote. And then this next guy didn't, it didn't work out. They fired him, and now they're trying to bring in that guy. He needs to be can he should be concerned as hell about that. That's what he should be worried about. So, but to to put a bow on it at the end of the day, Stefancy's a guy, give him a chance. Um, one way or another. Um, let's let's reserve our energy on uh criticizing a new regime before anything can even happen. We're already starting off without a first-round pick, which is fine. We're all okay with it. We should be okay with it. James Pierce is our first round pick. And let's say that we had our pick, and James Pierce played for the Rams this year, and he had 10 and a half sacks, and we traded this year's first round pick for James Pierce, and the Rams accepted. Let's look at it that way. To put it in layman's terms, for the niggas that can't get it through their fucking heads. Let's look at it that way.

SPEAKER_02: 1:07:08

No, no, hold on. Make it simpler than this. The guy that we pick in that slot next year, or this in the upcoming draft, will he be better than James Pierce?

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:21

That's, I mean, yeah, you can look at it that way too, but let's just look at it even better as if James Pierce was drafted by the Rams this year. He had 10 and a half sacks, and for whatever reason, we offer them the 12th or 13th, 14th, whatever our pick is, and we said, hey, we'll give you that for him. Let me let's get him and Xavier Watts and we'll give you this. And they were like, done deal. Let's look at it that way. Everybody would think, man, these guys, they fucking got away with fucking arm robbery.

SPEAKER_02: 1:07:50

That's what everybody would be saying, though. Hey, hey, you know what, you know what Les would do if if Matt called him with that shit? Let me tell you, he'd block Matt's number, nigga. No, no, no, you know, you know, you know, you know, I would tell him, hey Matt, suck the skinniest part of my dick.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:10

Lee, I'll do you one better. He does that, he picks his ass up and he farts into the phone and hangs up.

SPEAKER_02: 1:08:16

Hey, hey, no, no. Like, Matt, I'll let you fuck my wife before I make that deal. Get the fuck off my phone.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:24

Yeah, and then and then you hear doop doop, it clicks. That's what happens. That's what happens.

SPEAKER_02: 1:08:30

But wow, but that but hold on, let's stay here for a quick second because I think that's an important thing to talk about. Is again the media.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:37

We've gone almost an hour. Well, I know that we started off talking. We've gone almost an hour, Falcons.

SPEAKER_02: 1:08:42

But this isn't even the Falcons. The the media, the business of the media, the money behind talking. You know, you used to get paid to talk, and then eventually you tie it the talk to the pay instead of the pay to the talk. The media will start just saying stupid shit just to create a narrative. Hold on, I lost my train of thought. What were we talking about?

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:08

We're talking about uh well, we were putting a bow on the falcons.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:12

Yeah, but we but there was a we were we were went we started spinning out. Fuck.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:18

No, that's what we were on the Falcons.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:20

Yes, but what like what we're talking about the NFL. The NFL fuck. But what like what when I was talking about the media, what was I saying before that?

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:35

We didn't get to it. That's what we were waiting on.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:38

Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying before that, before that, like what was we didn't we didn't get to it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:42

That's what I'm saying. I was putting a ribbon on the Falcons, and he said, Well, let's stay right here.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:48

Yeah, but when I said let's stay right here, what were we talking about? There was like a topic within the Falcons. I'm trying to like replay what we were saying because I was like, There wasn't media, it wasn't about media. I know, I know. Like it was the specific thing that we were talking about. I was gonna tie it to the media, create narratives, and how they make money off of these different narratives that aren't reflective of what's actually going on, but then they become reflective of what's going on. Like, I was gonna tie it in. I fucked it up, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:19

That you will probably uh bring it in uh all together one in one piece once we get to that, but we might as well go ahead and transition into the championship weekend that we've got coming. Uh, which, well, I guess we're gonna do that.

SPEAKER_02: 1:10:38

Well, you want to recap last weekend? How do you want to do it? You want to talk about the games last week first before we get into championship week?

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:45

Sure, we can do just a really quick summary on those games. But obviously, Bill's Broncos was first, Broncos won, which anyone that tailed my Broncos moneyline hit. We lost on the under. Um, Broncos won a close one. Uh, very costly for them, though, because Bo Nick's breaks his ankle. But um, all in all, pretty good game. Very on par with what the playoffs have been this entire time. And um, I think that when you look at that game, Josh Allen has five turnovers. Uh, crucial naturally in a three-point game. I mean, that's it's a game of Martin's window overtime. Josh Allen cries at the podium, says it's his fault, which no shit. Sure, but it it kind of isn't because they they're not there with an out of them. I mean, there's a lot of different ball over. Yeah, it's crazy. And and and of course, you know, the Bills fire um Sean McDermott. Something I've kind of been saying that maybe should have happened last year.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:45

But like, hold on, hold on. You're going too fast.

SPEAKER_04: 1:11:47

You if you're gonna talk about just re Yeah, I think you say state of the game, but like that's a part of the game. That's the reason why.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:55

Let's talk about the best football player in the world. Let's talk about the best quarterback in the world. Let's talk about the the quarterback who has deep playoff experience against quarterbacks who didn't. Let's talk about the uh GWH. You know what I mean? Let's talk about the the MVP last year, you know. Let's talk about how Lamar got Harbaugh fired. You know what I mean? Let's talk about all of these different narratives around this fucking quarterback who got put out in the second round by both fucking Knicks and had five turnovers. He lost the fucking game. And then we still got Rex Ryan coming on TV, defending him. We still got Greeny coming on TV, defending him. And then people want us to watch these damn shows and think these guys are serious and watching the games, and their analysis on players are based upon the games. Either either your analysis is fucked, or the way that you used to analyze the game and you actually used to give players too much credit for wins and losses was wrong. You either lying then or you're lying now.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:00

Well, what's wrong with Greeny, Lee? Is it because he, you know, a lot of people don't even talk about Greeny. He somehow is still there. And Martin Luther King Day was obviously this past Monday shot. MLK will, I'm sure we'll end the show talking a little bit more about him.

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But Mike Greenberg?

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:15

Yeah, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:13:16

About Mike Greenberg still working at ESPN? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:21

This clip, you know, obviously of him saying Martin Luther Coon Day, and this guy.

SPEAKER_02: 1:13:27

Well, you said Mike Greenberg, correct? Yes. Yeah, so he like, like, you know, there's certain Freudian slips that aren't supposed to be.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:38

Tony and King are not close. And we talked about raccoons earlier.

SPEAKER_02: 1:13:41

Yeah, but like to make that Freudian slip, that means you have called it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:46

You use that, you use that, you use that. Yes, that's all that means. It doesn't mean that you really meant to say it, it just means that you it's in your verbiage.

SPEAKER_02: 1:13:54

And I will also tell you that does not make him racist.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:57

It doesn't, but I'm just saying and and I I really wish if that happened today, that nigga would not have a job. No, and you know he wouldn't. Uh depends. Today, he wouldn't work at ESPN. Maybe he'd be at Fox, but he wouldn't work at ESPN. He's Mike Greenberger. Is Green even that good to you? And we're not gonna get into a whole topic on him, but I'm just curious. Not to me, but the way he's just a vet.

SPEAKER_02: 1:14:22

But the way that people in the industry talk about him, they say he's amazing. Like he gets credit for the for teasers, the greeny tease. That's crazy.

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New Kung Fu Kenny.

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:34

Yeah, that is that's you're wild, man. You're wild.

SPEAKER_02: 1:14:36

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Would a greeny tease be a green berg?

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:43

Let me tell you, look, you just did the Sam Rainey uh Spider-Man joke and nobody laughed. Do you know what that joke is?

SPEAKER_02: 1:14:52

I just know it wasn't a good one.

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:55

Well, you've seen Spider-Man 2 with uh Doc Ock, right? Uh, who knows, maybe. You have. And he says, before we get started, uh, was there anyone that lost a large stack of$20 bills in a rubber band? And then he says, Well, we found the rubber band. And it's just like that's a good one, Doc. Really had the whole place going crazy over it. It's a good joke, though. It's a good joke, but it's like, you know.

SPEAKER_02: 1:15:27

Yeah, it's a dad joke. I know, but exactly.

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:31

Exactly. That's basically it. It falls in that category.

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But now here's where the media loses their credibility. Similarly, in politics, the way that like are we gonna get the Jazz and Crockett?

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:42

Are we gonna have enough time to touch up on that when you sit the percent? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02: 1:15:46

I can we can table that ass hitcher.

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:52

This is a Falcon show, Lee. So we can literally we can five minute the shit out of topics, yeah, go back and forth, get an opinion, and then close it and then move to the next.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:01

Yeah, I just want to I just really want to give Josh Allen the time that he deserves on this platform because it appears that the national platforms are just are please happy that he was right about one of these great white hoax that didn't work out.

SPEAKER_04: 1:16:15

He hated fucking uh Jokic at that shit age like milk. Uh you kind of hated Luca. I mean, Luca, the Luka hate is well, no, no, my Luca, my Luca hates it's incomplete, it's incomplete because he's like he's like proved it, but then also like this.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:36

My my my thing on Luca was how are y'all saying Luca is this, that, and the third, and James Harden isn't when their games are the most similar. And Luca, although he led his team to the finals and James Harden didn't, Luca has not surpassed anything that James Harden has done. And if we're being honest, if James Harden played against the team that Luca played against to go to the finals with his team, he would have won that game, he would have won that series. Do you think that so well check all right?

SPEAKER_04: 1:17:08

Well, timeout said is your belief that if uh James Harden in what year did the Warriors 2020? No, what year was that? The Warriors went 73 and 9.

SPEAKER_03: 1:17:22

Oh no, no, no, no, no, that's that's 2016, 2016.

SPEAKER_04: 1:17:25

Damn, yeah, it was you're right. Kobe's last game.

SPEAKER_02: 1:17:28

I'm talking about the 2018, I'm talking about 2018.

SPEAKER_04: 1:17:31

But I'm saying if Harden, that Harden that went to the West Finals against uh that Warriors team, if he was on the Luca team that Dallas won the West, would he have won the finals against the Celtics that year if Devs is just you just swapped those two in history?

SPEAKER_02: 1:17:48

No, no, no, I doubt it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:17:50

So this is what I'm saying. They're really but I I I do you think it's a white bias?

SPEAKER_02: 1:17:56

No, no, no. You were right on my on my Jokic and all of this stuff.

SPEAKER_04: 1:18:01

I never understood why you hated Jokic like that. I didn't hear that. It was crazy to me. I think Jokic is the best center ever. That's just my opinion.

SPEAKER_02: 1:18:07

Yeah, I didn't hate Jokic. I I it it's it's really nuanced, and I don't I don't I don't want to get into that today. We can we can actually unpack that one day, like we can play the plenty of time to discuss. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, after Super Bowl. But the Luca thing was my thing about Luca was he's whiteless athletic James Harden. And that's the category he needs to be put into.

SPEAKER_04: 1:18:31

They're damn near just both as good. I mean, and James Harden is one of the best scorers, but they're really on that same level, exactly.

SPEAKER_02: 1:18:38

And James Harden's actually a better shooter than Luca.

SPEAKER_04: 1:18:40

And I agree. As a just a pure shooter, I take Harden over Luca. But I think Luca uses his body better.

SPEAKER_02: 1:18:50

And if we're being honest, I'm not talking about just stats, I'm talking about playing basketball. James Harden is a much better basketball player than Luca because James Harden has been a sixth man and ran the second unit. James Harden has been a nigga who averaged 35 and 10.

SPEAKER_04: 1:19:05

Luca's got more career to go, though. He's still he's young. No, it's not it's incomplete. Yes, yes, I know, but I'm saying you're saying at this point in Lucas' career versus Harden at this point, you would take Harden. Yeah, I'm saying Luke, yes. But the way at year nine or whatever, year eight, whatever year Luca's in, you would take Harden from what you know versus what you think Luca's gonna do.

SPEAKER_02: 1:19:30

Yes, and I can agree with that. But Luca is talked about like he is heads and shoulders and his ceiling is gonna be above James Harden. Five straight first team all NBA. That's a metric kind of, but like Yeah, but it it's it's stats. Like, and don't give me I'm not shitting on him. He's five. Like, I love to watch Luca play basketball. Like, but when you start talking about winning championships and the Things that Luca does and doesn't do, and the way that it's hard to fit talent around that, like there's not much difference between Luca and Joker.

SPEAKER_05: 1:20:11

Westbrook.

SPEAKER_02: 1:20:11

No, no, no. I'm gonna say Luca and Joker. Hold on, hear me out. I am. Go ahead. But with Joker being a big man who doesn't have to defend, doesn't have to guard every game. The primary best player on the floor. And you can bring in somebody to guard the bigs when Joker can't guard them if they're like the skinny fast bigs. And he can still run the offense, whereas Luca is in a pri is a is in a premium position where you actually need defense. It hurts.

SPEAKER_04: 1:20:53

Exactly. Yes. So he's on the floor. I'm just saying he's on the floor regardless.

SPEAKER_02: 1:20:58

Yeah, but I'm saying positional fit than the way it translates on the other end of the court.

SPEAKER_04: 1:21:04

I mean, maybe he did in the bubble a little, but like outside of the bubble, when they played the Lakers again, you know, we went to get I went to game one of that Nuggets Lakers series.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:14

AD got it. No, AD got his numbers. I'm just saying, yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04: 1:21:19

That's the that's the knock on Jokic for GOAT Center. Is defensively at best he's average.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:28

But he's somebody that led the NBA in Steel. Yeah, no, but hold on. As a center. I know, I know, but you're about to go into something that that that we're not talking about Jokic. I'm only I'll only contextualizing my Luca hate. Is that Harden?

SPEAKER_04: 1:21:41

I got it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:42

It was just that, hey, y'all are bigging this guy up over somebody who's accomplished more in this league, playing a similar style, and is actually a better basketball player because James Harden can play off the ball and he can be a pass first point guard and only score 20 points a game, and you still win. And Luca has not shown the ability to do that. And so just don't put Luca, don't elevate Luca and then push Harden down. And at the time I made the take, they had the same numbers.

SPEAKER_04: 1:22:12

Okay, that's fair. I mean I can I can agree with you. Like, I honestly that's this is a good take, Lee. But this is what we why we do this show, right? Like uh, we're not gonna agree on everything as we shouldn't, but more importantly, that's exactly why we created the show. Because I think that we can challenge each other in this mode when it comes to this stuff, but I can agree with that take. I think that that is a very good take in terms of that. Because I'm not a like Cardinal ain't my favorite player. I know he's not your favorite player, but like he's one of my favorites, though. He is uh, again, I think you said this on the phone to me once. He has changed basketball more than Steph Curry to a degree, and a lot of people wouldn't agree with that because they think that Steph Curry is who revolutionized the idea of being a good three-point shooter and uh it being because it's such a high percentage shot, but being so good at it, if you do it so many times, that analytically it makes sense. When James Harden is just as good, and if anything, he can pump if he gets you, he's not gonna get fouled, cross, and then even still do a middle, and it's good too, or go to the hole, he can dunk on you. Like Steph's not doing James Harden, Steph Steph Curry's offensive bag is not as great as James Harden's. James Harden's better.

SPEAKER_02: 1:23:36

James Harden is a more capable. And he's bigger, is a more capable offensive player than Steph. But Steph is just a better basketball, he's just better. He's just a better shooter.

SPEAKER_04: 1:23:47

He's a better three-point player. But the point about James Harden. I'm not even saying he's a better shooter, he's a better three-point shooter.

SPEAKER_02: 1:23:53

And the part the part about the game being more like James Harden is yo, Steph does a lot of stuff off ball. I watch youth basketball. I see a lot of bad threes. A lot of them don't come from off-ball movement. It's all on ball ISO, and that's James Harden. He's a dog. Trey Young. He's in that James. People try to compare him to Steph Curry. He's more James Harden than Steph Curry. Oof.

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:18

I don't know about that, take.

SPEAKER_02: 1:24:19

But what do you mean?

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:21

He has the ball in his hand, he's dictating the offense. He's he he he's drawing. But how often does Steph not have? I think what what era have a synthesis? Look, Draymond has the ball in his hand. I get what you're trying to say.

SPEAKER_02: 1:24:34

But that's why I'm saying Trey is more is more James Harden.

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:37

So do you think that do you think that Draymond Green before, and this is it, way outside. Do you think that before Jokic became Jokic? Because Draymond was yes, they had Boget, but like was Draymond a point power forward center before Jokic? Is that what you're trying to tell me? I I was not even though he's 6'6.

SPEAKER_02: 1:25:02

I wasn't thinking about Draymond when I was talking, but well, who has the ball in their hands on the wall?

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:07

It's a lot of ball movement, but I'm just saying he's still a point guard.

SPEAKER_02: 1:25:11

I would tell you that that Draymond um yeah, Draymond's a Draymond's a point forward. Draymond, he actually he plays point forward like an 80s or 90s point guard in the sense that he's making everything happen and you have to watch the games to see it because his numbers aren't gonna always show it. Yeah, he's getting a hockey assist, he's setting that good screen that sets up the basket, he's making that extra pass. You know, he's he Draymond does a lot of stuff that if you don't watch basketball, and honestly, if you haven't played basketball or really been taught to understand basketball by people who have played at a high level, or been around high basketball. Yeah, like you won't understand how good Draymond Green is at basketball.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:58

Which is why the Kenyon Martin thing to mean when he named I guess every Ford he said was better.

SPEAKER_02: 1:26:04

That was that was that was internet. That was internet fodder, and and the and the and the thing was Kenyon Martin, as somebody who watches Gil's show, is always complimentary of Draymond. The only thing he's ever said is he picks and chooses his fights, and Kenyon Martin was a nigga who fought in the NBA and is like, hey dog.

SPEAKER_04: 1:26:24

And was good as a former, he was the number one overall pick, no? Yeah, and he was he made an all-star in 04. Yeah, I mean, he was good on a championship, on an East Championship, a team that went to the finals two times in a row. He's the best player on the team.

SPEAKER_02: 1:26:38

And he and he led the team in points. In points.

SPEAKER_05: 1:26:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:26:43

So he's the number one scoring option on the team that went to the finals two years in a row. So is Kenya Martin better than Draymond Green at basketball? Yes. Does he have a better career? No, but that's a different conversation. Uh let's get back to these playoff law, uh, playoff shit. Yeah, Josh Allen deserves to get to get taken to the cleaners for underperforming. Uh you brought up the head coach and firing. You said that um it was common if they didn't, if they didn't win get to the Super Bowl, didn't win the Super Bowl this year. You you were okay with them firing him at after last year, if I remember correctly.

SPEAKER_04: 1:27:18

That's correct.

SPEAKER_02: 1:27:19

I said keep him because I like what Pittsburgh and Baltimore do. I like I like continuity, but I understand why he got fired. I totally get it, and hopefully they can find a good offensive mind. And maybe, I mean, shit, maybe bring back Dayball. I'm not mad at them trying to bring back Dayball.

SPEAKER_04: 1:27:40

Yeah, but you know, Joe Brady was getting all those head coaching interviews. That's like two years, three years. I mean, he was a hot candidate after the LSU shit, but like he gets a lot of stuff, he's in the building. I would not keep continuity in a situation like that.

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No, I wouldn't either.

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Once I scorch the earth, I'm scorching the earth. But that's why I kind of wouldn't bring Dayball back. Like, I mean, it makes sense in a sense, but like it's also kind of like it's just more of the same. And that's why the Rahim high for us, not to bring it back to that, it's just kind of like we're bringing back more of the same. Get rid of that. And I know people can be like, well, what about Matt Ryan? He's part of that Super Bowl, too. He's never been an exec and he was the quarterback of the team. This has nothing to do with that. But I get it. Get the stench out of the building. I, if I'm Buffalo, to me, I want a proven winner. They should be just like how I feel like we should have been, which in the case that we were in, did we get a proven winner? No, because Stefanski's never won anything. But if the Steelers don't end up hiring uh McCarthy, I think that that's who they should go after. I would go after an established coach this one. And make sure that his staff aligns with what you want his staff to look like more than anything. Who is not only going to get the most out of Josh Allen, but who's going to get the most out of um the defense? Who can who can make the defense better than what it has been? Because we don't feel like even though Josh Allen's weapons aren't great, he's got the leading rusher in the NFL. But the wide receiver position, there's a lot to be desired, which is we'll get it, I guess, in the world.

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Hey, wrap this shit up, nigga. I ain't want to go. Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_04: 1:29:32

I don't give a fuck about the Bills. Well, point being Bills lose to Broncos. Not surprised. I picked the Broncos. Um next game, we had uh Seahawks, 49ers. We can spend even less time on this. 49ers, blowout. Um San Francisco hurt. Yeah, Seahawks. Seahawks look like a uh hot knife through butter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then the next day, what did we have? We had uh Texans, Patriots. Uh, we also took the Patriots and that one. I mean, I think, you know, to me, New England was just with no, I knew Nico Collins probably wasn't gonna play. And as good as that defense is, the offense just wasn't gonna produce. And if if if CJ Stroud had four, three, four turnovers, he had like five fumbles in the Steelers game. He only lost two of them, but he had like three or four turnovers in that game. What did you think was gonna happen in the snow as a dome team and a California guy? Uh going against a better team than the Steelers. He played at Ohio State. I don't care.

SPEAKER_02: 1:30:37

Yeah, I I wanted I wanted Houston to win. But yeah, you know, Vrave's the guy we had in the building, he's gone on to the AFC Championship. And then we had Rams Bears, which uh before we get to the winning team, and I know you should probably open with the winning team. I I just want to come on here and just take my medicine again. Caleb Williams is who they said he was. Yes, both the good and the bad. The good outweighs the bad. But like the stuff that he the the great, the amazing, the the the number one overall pick stuff that we see that he does from time to time, yes is why he was talked about the way that he was. Like that that touchdown to Cole commit uh in the fourth quarter. Like fourth down, should have been a sack, should have been incomplete, should have been not a touchdown, a crazy throw that he makes. It it his ability, I'm about to pull a column's worth.

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Come on, suck him off.

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But no, you know how sometimes Mahomes and even shit, the guy across from him that day, Stafford, Prime Aaron Rodgers, sometimes they just do stuff and it might it might be an incomplete pass. Or it might just be a two-yard game, but like they just make a throw and you're like, how the fuck did you do that? Yeah. I saw that in the clutch. I saw the stuff that I don't like from Caleb Williams escaping the pocket and and and getting off schedule more than I'd like. And I saw it work in the clutch.

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It's not here quarterbackingly.

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Yeah, I can dislike the approach because I prefer Aaron Rodgers style.

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Yeah.

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But the results, the proof's in the pudding, and I've heard the I've heard NFL players talk about him. And once I hear the players who've played against him give the praise when they don't have to give the praise, like when they're not talking about Caleb Williams or talking about NFL quarterbacks, and they decide to put him in the conversation, you go, okay. Fuck what the media is saying. Yeah, he's he's a guy. I'm sold. Even if I don't like what I see, the people who are saying they like what they see like it more. And I'm not saying I don't like what I see. I don't watch enough Chicago games week in and week out. But no, uh Caleb Williams is him. And shout out to Matthew Stafford, man. I hope he wins this MVP and the Super Bowl because he's a Georgia guy. And if this turn if this makes Matthew Stafford to be remembered highly in his generation, he deserves it because it sucks to be Carson Palmer.

SPEAKER_04: 1:33:43

It does. You you're not talked about often, and anyone, if you weren't somebody that saw it, you wouldn't realize that, man, you know, Carson Palmer is not a Hall of Famer, but boy, he could play. He gave hope to two for the two franchises where he had the most success. He the Bengals, I always was the team that I liked, even as a Falcons fan. It was a team I silently rooted for because Black coach. I like well that uh Chad Johnson, TJ Hushmanzada. Uh they had Rudy Johnson was one of the running backs. They had Corey Dillon was gone by then, but like Cedric Benson, R.I.P. R.I.P. You know, Cedric Benson's a uh he's a second cousin of mine, but like um Yeah, I did know that. Yeah, it's so crazy too, because like Martha Benson, like I have f he's Texas, he's Wico. Oh yeah, but um he's a cousin of mine. But like, I mean I didn't know him, I never met him, but like he is a he's related to me, and so uh athletes in the family, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Deep on my dad's side, but you know, but but but I mean his mom was my grandmother's aunt. Okay, but regardless, the thing is, is uh him, he's he's somebody that just won't get that appreciation either. Like it's and it's it's it's it happens every error when we get those type of uh guys.

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Hey, you know if you put Eli Manning like on a lie detector test and just asked him questions about Carson Palmer, who do you think Eli believes was the better quarterback?

SPEAKER_04: 1:35:23

During their their time in the league?

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Yeah.

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I mean he's gonna say himself.

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No, no, I I no I say lie detector test, like what he believes, not what he says.

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Oh, I think he believes he's better than because he's got Super Bowls.

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I don't think he believes that.

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I think he does. I think he might not be a good example of it though.

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No, I'm I'm just talking about just just just talent. Like you say, like this, that, and I'm willing to bet Eli Manning would say that Carson Palmer has more favorable characteristics as a quarterback than him on a lie detector. And I say that to say I want Matt Stafford to get this MVP because that cements you. He didn't get Super Bowl MVP in a Super Bowl. If he gets another Super Bowl, he has two. I mean with an MVP award. With MVP, so he has more Super Bowls than Drew Brees, and he has uh MVP, and now you just look at him differently. Yes, like people will say, like some people like Colin Cowhard will say he was better than Aaron. You know, number one.

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He was never better than Aaron.

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He just got fucked by Detroit.

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Which could be true, but oh getting fucked by Detroit?

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But I mean, he also went to the playoffs in Detroit. You know, they they fired my man's after a nine and seven season. Jim Caldwell. Well, who do we blame? Jim Codwell got fucked in both of his head coaching jobs, didn't he? 14 and 2 Colts, Peyton Manning next shit. They tank, they fire him. Did did he get fucked?

SPEAKER_04: 1:37:16

I mean, he got set up in a position to where he was necessarily, it wasn't necessarily, oh, I have to win today, but just more so of uh, well, I've got to win. But I also don't necessarily because I'm new on, I'm I'm learning on the job anyways, but my leash is shorter. Like three years was always gonna be his max. All right, I'm sorry. His men, his minimum was gonna be three. He went to a Super Bowl, he lost. Peyton got hurt. Peyton got hurt, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:37:47

Then he goes to Detroit and turns things around. Yeah, now that's where he got the raw deal. He got the raw deal. I don't know about Andy. Well, they fired him after they they fired him uh uh after the bad year when they drafted Andrew Luck. Well, maybe that was just a whole franchise sanitization.

SPEAKER_04: 1:38:05

It was the new era, yeah.

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But but but still, when you're the coach and Peyton Manning is out and you know he's gonna be out for the whole season, you knew you're Damar Hamlin.

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Yes.

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If you've been there a few years and you already hadn't won the big one and you've had Peyton Manning and you were having playoff failures, and they're like But that's why I'm surprised McDermott lasted as long as he did. And Josh Allen is no Peyton Manning.

SPEAKER_02: 1:38:32

Um so with this week's games. Give me the Rams, give me the Pats. Repeat of 01.

SPEAKER_04: 1:38:43

But I'm not repeat repeat of uh Atlanta Super Bowl.

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But I'm not gonna but I'm not gonna say that uh the Patriots start their new dynasty, even though it's year three for Drake, year two for Drake May. Yes, year two, yeah. And Brady was what year three or year two?

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:03

Year two. He was uh his rookie year he didn't play. His second year, obviously, he had not played until oh boy, but the start of the season.

SPEAKER_02: 1:39:13

So here goes your media storylines because guess what? This is the sports entertainment business, and then when the media makes more money, the sports make more money. So uh here's your prediction, guys.

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:25

Well, I am gonna wait unless you want to need to do my peak picks right now.

SPEAKER_02: 1:39:30

No, you can nah just wait.

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:32

I'll wait for a prediction, but I don't uh we got about 20 minutes to if we keep it under two, but I feel like we'll probably go a little over maybe for the uh I I honestly can't.

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I got three phone calls I gotta make.

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:44

Okay. Okay. Um well here, let's I'll quickly do this. I mean, my thoughts are this. Um, heartbreaking news for Denver. They got home field advantage. They're playing against a team that is beatable, so there's that. Then with Seattle and uh LA, I think that this is a game that it was arguably, you know, there's been so many games of the year this year. But um that was one of the games of the year, the Thursday night game where Seattle did come back at home and won an o on a two-point conversion of all things. Um let's talk about the national championship. That game should be very interesting. I'm excited, and we'll get to the picks with it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:40:24

But yeah, you're talking about that shit with the picks. Let's get to the natty. The natty that no one cared about.

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Signetti doing something that's never been done. For one, they were 16-0. I don't think any teams won 16 games in college football. They did. Um, obviously, it's Indiana. I think that that's even more of the story. Like, there's no way that the Indiana Hoosers are college football champions and they they reign supreme. It's it's so weird to say still, but they did it, and they did it pretty convincingly, and they beat a lot of the teams that you would have wanted to see them play in route to doing it. Oh, and the Big Ten has won three straight national championships, and I think that that's gonna be the I'm not no, we're not doing that. That's the real conversation. Well, I don't think it's better. I'm not a Georgia Hatley. I don't think that the FCC is, but I'm just saying, is that now is that a conversation?

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No, it's not a conversation.

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It's absolutely that's three in a row. I'm just saying.

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National championships are not the only determining factor of conference strength. And in today's college football, where the portals wide open and the NIL money is flowing. What is a conference? Conferences used to have an identity. Conferences used to recruit a certain type of player.

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Do you believe that the identity is gone from conferences?

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The identity is gone from college football. Okay, it hasn't gone from the fans yet because they're still alive. But the identity of college football is gone. The Rose Bowl doesn't matter anymore, the Peach Bowl doesn't matter anymore.

SPEAKER_04: 1:42:09

But that sounds like tradition more than anything.

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Yeah, all of that stuff is gone, and that's what made college football great. The regionalism of it, and the few times a year you get these cross-regional matchups, you know. Like how many years did you want to play against Ohio State or Miami?

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Or see, that was the thing with the SEC even back then, and we're talking mid-2000s, Bush era. The thing was before Saban goes to Bama, the SEC was always still looked at as this superior conference, but like at the same time, and notice you didn't name any SEC teams when you named the how many times a year did you want to play them? Well, I was talking about as a Georgia fan. But the thing is, yes, okay, but yes, from the Georgian perspective, yes, because we were never gonna be, we were always a very good team, but we were never a we weren't a championship expectation team.

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But I'm but I was just saying, like, we we knew But the SEC was also every other year, it was a good whether it was Florida, but and I'm talking like I said, prior, but but the I was saying those teams because it's like the only chance we will get to play them is in uh either Nanati or a big bowl game at the end of the year. Yes, and it was a thing, right? But now these bowl games are corporate shit, so they still make their money and they don't make their money off the fans, they make their money off the corporate sponsorships. Bro, I know we're supposed to be praising Indiana, but Indiana winning a national championship is a is a prime example of how money has ruined college football, and it has very little to do with Indiana. Yes, Indiana has Mark Cuban uh as a as an alum, Joe Buck too. Uh just throwing that out there.

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So I didn't know that Joe Buck went to any uh interesting.

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So so the well is wet over there, okay.

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Well, but you know, that goes back to these big schools in the Big Ten.

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Yeah, there's more money.

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They're huge, but they're huge, they're bigger. They have like they're bigger schools, 80, 90,000 enrollment.

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Yeah, they're bigger schools and they have um they have more rich alumni because they're bigger schools.

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They're big less.

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Yeah, so yeah. What now was about coaching development, and yes, the co the leadership in college football was being overly compensated while the labor was not being properly compensated. Hey, that's the American way. Yeah, it's business. Yeah, so I'm not saying that I like it, but then when you create a space for labor to make money without guardrails, that's always stupid because now individuals control institutions because institutions have like no control over individuals, and and and institutions always work better than individuals, even if you're an individual getting fucked by an institution, just throwing that out there. Like for a society at large, uh strong institutions are better, and right now the NCAA, uh, the conferences, the the schools themselves, not many of them are strong institutions. Georgia football is still a strong institution. We didn't win a national championship.

SPEAKER_04: 1:45:29

Well, Kirby lives and dies on the hill that is Georgia, but but yes, but like we would be going after Mensa to replace Gunner, and not that Gunner's the reason we didn't win, but like if he wanted to upgrade, if he wanted to do Kirby could have dropped the bag and got Fernando Mendoza if he wanted to go. Correct, yes, he could have gotten and same with this cycle because you know the Mendoza uh Mensa thing, the guy Duke, he is good, he's very good. He's better than Gunnar Stockton. He's not gonna do Gunner wrong because he has a way that he's building the program, and he's saying, you wait your turn, you will be rewarded. Carson left on his own area, he's coming off an injury, Gunner comes in, Gunner had waited, it's Gunner's turn. Carson leaves, plus, Carson wanted more money. He got it, he went to national championship. Congratulations to him. But like Kirby is an example of not being like um Dabo, right? Like Dabo is against this stuff, but like at the same time, Kirby adjusts to it, but also still keeps his tradition in the way that he wants to run his program.

SPEAKER_02: 1:46:38

And what's gonna happen is Kirby will have some seasons in the short term that we won't be proud of. And I'm not saying they're gonna be bad seasons. There may be a season like this year. There may be a lot of them, but when you look at what Kirby's doing over the long haul over other institutions, you're going to see that oh, Georgia's one of the most Georgia's a consistent top program, not just a top program in this five-year window. Yes. Or in this recruiting cycle.

SPEAKER_04: 1:47:12

There's never a year that they won't be in the top three in Vegas odds. Because they were number two this year behind well, they were like Ohio State and Texas were like tied to start, but then Georgia was like third. So they will always be a betting favorite, a favorite amongst eye test people in general. They are the equivalent of what Nick Save in Alabama is.

SPEAKER_02: 1:47:36

I won't go that far because we don't have as much hardware and we haven't had as much time, but I'll but they're still gonna be just I'm just saying from a I'm we're gonna we're gonna open damn near. We're gonna open every season and close every season in the top 10. Exactly. Uh but the game was meh, I didn't care about the game.

SPEAKER_04: 1:47:57

Second half was way more entertaining, of course. I know we talked a good portion of the first half, but uh the second half was much more entertaining. I uh I went and got the the bottle of liquor that um I told you I was I was I was thinking about. I went and got that. And the game was just better. It sucks because Indiana cost me. If Indiana had won the second half, I would have won like six grand on a$50 bet. That's not here nor there, but that was still a part of it. And um gosh, you know, we didn't get to get into this whole we'll have to say that, I guess, for next week.

SPEAKER_05: 1:48:31

Well, we had on time.

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We'll have that week in between the Super Bowl, anyways. But like we're out on time. So we uh we got about 12 minutes, and so um yeah, it it it it was a snoozer in the first half. The second half was certainly better. Uh Mendoza makes his Heisman moment in the national championship game with that run, no doubt. And some could say maybe the throw he made against Penn State maybe was the Heisman moment in regular in regular season, but that play will live in lore when they do the highlight package for national championships for years to come. And him diving and getting taking the shot, and the fact anyone that watched the game will always remember they did that on a fourth down up three in the fourth quarter.

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And we saw that Adidas on the field and it was disgusting.

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Yeah.

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Make America Nike again.

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Yeah, well, you know. Yeah, now we got these Libs running the damn office.

SPEAKER_02: 1:49:28

Uh, do you want to talk about the NBA All-Star starters at all?

SPEAKER_04: 1:49:32

We might as well touch on it. I mean, we got about 10 minutes. I don't see why not. Let's give it two minutes.

SPEAKER_03: 1:49:37

I sent it to you somewhere, didn't I?

SPEAKER_04: 1:49:39

I I know it off the top of my head. Cade Cunningham, Jalen Brunson, uh Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown, Giannis, and who's the fourth all-star starter in the East? I don't know. I'm looking forward to the case. Uh it's a foreigner, Giannis. So I named all the Americans. I named all the Americans, because those are the four Americans. You said Giannis twice. Giannis Jalen Cade. Jalen Jalen. No, Jalen Jalen, Giannis Cade. Who did I just miss out on? Jalen Jalen Giannis Cade. I'm pulling it up right now.

SPEAKER_01: 1:50:32

Uh Jalen Cade, Jalen Giannis, Maxie.

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Maxie. Okay. Maxie was who we were missing. So pretty weak Eastern Converse stars, if I'm being honest. Um, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_02: 1:50:44

It's not weak. It's just because it's positionless. It's gone.

SPEAKER_04: 1:50:49

It's weak. It's shit's weak. Uh, and then in the West, very superior. You got Wimby, Jokic, um, Steph, uh, Luca, and Shay. Shea. There you go. League MVP. And so kick Steph out. Kick Steph out just because, in reality, numbers-wise, that was an OG move. But look, I mean, think about it. And LeBron made sense because he missed so much time before the season started, regardless. And I just think that the NBA in general, there's not LeBron fatigue because there's just so many Braun sexuals still that live are like that are here.

SPEAKER_02: 1:51:33

I don't even think it's LeBron sexuals, bro. I think it's LeBron haters that actually fuel it. Yeah, but I don't even think anyone hates LeBron anymore.

SPEAKER_04: 1:51:40

It's just more of a they still do. They hate him in terms of when it comes to legacy greatest of all time talks. Nobody cares about him currently.

SPEAKER_02: 1:51:48

Like Nah, bro. I I'm actually less of a LeBron fan today than I. It's time for him to go in a weird way.

SPEAKER_04: 1:51:56

Like, it's gonna be a sad day when LeBron James seriously is not playing basketball.

SPEAKER_02: 1:52:00

But let's get back to an all-star game because we're short on time. Right. Hey, look here. Ant-Man is averaging 30 on 50% shooting and 40% from the three. He's a higher Steve than Steph. I don't care if Steph is the OG. I don't care about none of that shit. I don't. And I respect Steph. And Steph is supposed to be an all-star starter because he's Steph. But if Kevin DeFloc or ain't an all-star starter, put that young man uh Edwards in because by all the metrics that that matter to the media, and I I get it. It's there's a fan vote that goes into that. But if nigga, if I'm averaging 30, I'm a higher seed than you, and I'm averaging 30 efficiently. Nigga, I'm an all-star starter. I should be an MVP. We're being honest.

SPEAKER_04: 1:52:49

Better question, and we can run through this super duper quick. Just name off the top of your head some of the people you think are gonna be reserves. We know that from no. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02: 1:52:58

I don't know because there's gonna be 16 Americans and eight Europe uh uh foreigners.

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So, like Denny Avi is gonna be one with the Blazers, he'll be one of the foreign players, no doubt. I'm kind of all-star deserving, but he has all-star numbers. Yeah. And the but the Blazers are competitive.

SPEAKER_02: 1:53:17

Bro, the NBA All-Star game is just stupid. They they've lost sight of it. Uh, Gilbert Arenas, you know, I quote him a lot here. He talked about how they played.

SPEAKER_04: 1:53:26

We didn't even get into any of Gil's arena either on all this after we talked about and said we were gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:53:32

I forgot what they talked about.

SPEAKER_04: 1:53:34

A lot of things, but we kind of addressed it anyways with the Falcon stuff.

SPEAKER_02: 1:53:39

But oh yeah. Then oh, oh, you talking about that football show. Fuck them. I don't watch that shit. Gil Gil said, Hey, the problem with the All-Star game is it's a pickup, it's an exhibition game, but they they call it worse than they call the playoffs. Right. So niggas stop playing. And again, that's stuff you can't get from the media necessarily, or even retired players who just talk about it but didn't play in it.

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Yeah.

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It's like, oh, I done went to the basket and I done got hit across my head and ain't even calling it. Oh, I'm not going to the basket no more. I'm just shooting threes. Yeah. I'm not gonna get hurt for games that matter, the playoffs, my legacy, have Skip Baylors talking bad about me because I got hurt in the all-star game trying to play hard to make the fans happy. But the league's not protecting me. And I just think the league is so far removed from the fans. Because if you're gonna do a US versus world all-star game, 12 versus 12, my nigga. And also, why don't we make it North America versus the world? Because that helps it helps your numbers.

SPEAKER_04: 1:54:53

It helps it helps like you mean Canadians, but like the Canadians come to America and and and with Central America and like the Caribbean, but yeah, yeah, the Caribbean. There's not very many South American players that are all-stars.

SPEAKER_02: 1:55:09

Like Cat has claimed his Dominican citizenship. Imagine that nigga playing for the world team. Nigga, you from New Jersey.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:18

And that's the issue with it, too. They just don't they didn't set it up right, but Donovan Mitchell.

SPEAKER_02: 1:55:22

He he he he Panamanian.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:24

Panamanian, yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_02: 1:55:26

I mean, your grandparents are Panamanian. I'm not shitting on your on on that, but nigga, no, you're American. You you should play for Team USA.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:33

We had spoken on that, but look, we've got about four minutes, so let's get into this gentleman.

SPEAKER_00: 1:55:42

It is prime for Paul AP NFL Championship Six.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:54

Sixers. All right. I've got a flaming hot six pack. Obviously, we're down to two games, so it makes it a little bit harder. So I did this. I did a three and three. We got three props. We got three game picks. Uh, I'll start off with the props just because the props, uh, you know, anyone can do those on a lot of those. So we're gonna start with one. Jarrett Stidham, over 198.5 passing yards. Really low to me. Uh New England's got a solid secondary, but give me give me the over here. Next, we got Jackson Smith and Jig, but JSN, uh presumptive offensive player of the year, over six and a half receptions. I love his receptions prop. Um he absolutely should get it in a championship game like this. Uh next, we got Kenneth Walker, who uh what's his face is out, Zach Charbonnet's out. I like under 19.5 carries. I don't think he gets 20 carries. I don't think he gets it. So those are gonna be our player props as a part of this six-pack. And then next, we'll get into the game. We'll start off first with the AFC Championship. A lot of people are not gonna like this and they're not gonna agree, but I like the Broncos on the money line. So give me Denver on the money plus 210. They're the upset of the week. Um, and then we'll go to the Rams game. First, we're gonna start off with the over-under. I like over 45 in this game. I bought a point and a half, but hey, I'm cheating. So give me over 45. I believe that this game is gonna end up going over. And then finally, who is gonna play the Broncos in Parlay Pete's Super Bowl? I like the Rams as a dog at Seattle. Give me the Rams uh on the money line. They are also a dog. Not nearly as big as Denver, but I like the Rams. So give me both dogs this week.

SPEAKER_02: 1:57:44

All right. So we got Stedham over 198.5 yards. We got JSN over six and a half receptions. We got Ken Walker under 19.5 carries. We got the Broncos on the money line. We got Rams at the Seahawks over 45, and we got the Rams on the money line.

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There you go. You like it. I love it. And when you love it, that means it's time for Lee. Lee's three.

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Lead three. All right, so for Lee's three this week, give me Stid um uh on the over 198 and a half. He's a high, he's a highly paid backup quarterback, and Sean Payton's calling the plays.

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He's covered at number three out of his four games that he started, by the way.

SPEAKER_02: 1:58:28

Oh, even better. Give me that over 45. I think there's gonna be some points scored in that Rams Seahawks game.

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And 24-21's a push, even in that game.

SPEAKER_02: 1:58:37

Yeah. Give me the Rams on the money line. I told you earlier.

SPEAKER_04: 1:58:40

You don't like Denver. I knew you didn't like Denver. Fuck no. Okay, I like Denver.

SPEAKER_02: 1:58:46

But hey, man, it's been a great week, Parlay P. Uh, enjoyed it. Anything else you want to say before we get out of here?

SPEAKER_04: 1:58:51

Uh, I do. Hold on. And I literally wrote this down. And I promise it won't. We weren't, we're not gonna go over time. I just have to pull it up because I thought it did. Uh, well, you can do that for your 30 seconds.

SPEAKER_02: 1:59:05

Uh so my quick piece on MLK. Hey, let's stop the pusification of Martin Luther King. Yes, he was a pacifist. Yes, that he was nonviolent. But Dr. King, his movement was not about uh drinking from just drinking from white water fountains or riding white buses. It was about black people having an equal opportunity in this country, both socially, economically, politically, in all walks of life. Having your shot fairly based on your merits. Nothing more, nothing less. So stop trying to make King seem like he just wanted us to eat out the white man's hand and live off of welfare. Uh go study what he actually said and stop just taking the the spoon-fed narrative that's handed to you. Mind you, he was tracked by the government. The FBI tried to ruin his marriage and ruin his movement, and now that same uh government is the uh are the people who are creating the holiday. Let look look come on now.

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We definitely went over. Because it's right at two hours right now. But this is what I have to say. And this honestly goes into what you just said. I won't specifically go into MLK, but I will say this. And I'm going to quote somebody that spoke at our great college, and I'm sure has a great admiration and respect for MLK. Well, you're a black man in this country. You can't car apartmentalize. You must car apartmentalize to stay stained. And I'll leave you all with that. All right, dog. Great show, man. No, I was quoting right.

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No, I don't.

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Chris Weber. Chris Weber. Chris Weber on a fucking NBA broadcast. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Wait, wait, wait. Just hear me out. When you're a black man in this country, you can't car park mentalize. You must car apart mentalized to stay safe. What the fuck is he talking about?

SPEAKER_02: 2:00:50

It's tough out here being a rich 610 black man.

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I don't know. Lee, it's been a pleasure as always. Uh great show. We'll be back next week. All right. All right. I'll catch you, brother.