Little Bracket of Horrors
A horror movie review podcast that puts the fight in fright. We review a film every other week and at the end of the season we'll have a tournament to see who is the champion in the Little Bracket of Horrors Death-match.
Little Bracket of Horrors
Ginger Snaps
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Welcome to Little Bracket of Horrors. The pod that puts the fight in fright!
In this episode we attack and tear into Ginger Snaps. Directed and written by John Fawcett, with Karen Walton also credited as a co-writer. Staring Emily Perkins and Katharine Isabelle as the Fitzgerald sisters who have a morbid obsession with death and will soon come face to face with a violent werewolf that will bring them much more closer to a violent end then either of them could have imagined.
So join the LBOH crew as they settle into the quite town of Bailey Downs and start picketing for people to bring their dogs inside the house
Welcome back. I'm Derek. I'm Matt. And we got a special guest with us this week. We got Lisa.
SPEAKER_04Hello.
SPEAKER_02Hello, Lisa. How are you doing?
SPEAKER_04I'm great. I'm here. It's just awesome to be here.
SPEAKER_02Well, thank you so much. We uh we had to throw an Audible again this week because Shelly is still uh down with the sickness. And uh, you know Yeah. Wow. But uh yeah, if you guys want to send some positive thoughts, energy, you know, light a candle, whatever you want to do, send some positive energy Shelly's way. And hopefully she's back for next episode. We miss you, Shelly. But yeah, if anyone, you know, if anyone listens to this episode, they should know who Lisa is. She's a constant contributor to our voices from beyond segment.
SPEAKER_04So I'm number one losers. No skinning.
SPEAKER_03We miss we do miss Shelly, but I'm excited to have Lisa with us.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it'll be fun. Very excited. So just like with Jamie last week, we had some questions. We're gonna have some questions for Lisa this week. So, Lisa, what's your favorite horror film?
SPEAKER_04Um, I know I have to narrow it down to one, but I obviously can't because these two are awesome. It would be 1978 John Carpenter's Halloween and also Halloween 3 Season of the Witch.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. Nice. That's a fantastic film. Uh different than all the other ones. Standalone fantastic film. I I enjoyed it too. Actually, this year was the first year that I watched it.
SPEAKER_04Really?
SPEAKER_02Yes. And I uh I'm I'm happy I finally watched it. But I have a lot of catching up to do myself as a horror fan. Oh, I got I got I got some lots of things.
SPEAKER_03I got some lots. I got salots of catching up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but uh if you you know you should totally check out uh season three's uh it's season of the witch. Yes, season three? Season three. It's it's Halloween three. It's Halloween three season of the season of the three. Oh yes, okay. Got it. Check it out. I think it's on Shudder. I think that's where I watched it. Yeah. So you you can you can check it there. So uh what's your favorite horror sub subgenre, and then what's your least favorite?
SPEAKER_04Um, okay, so a little bit of background on me. I have four older brothers who introduced me to the cult classics slashers, which those are my favorite uh genres. Um, I was like five years old watching stuff. I'm pretty sure I shouldn't have that's insane.
SPEAKER_02I my son's nine years old, and I can't even get him to watch The Mummy. The 1932. Yeah, I was like, hey man, it's not bad at all. No, I couldn't even get him in the same room.
SPEAKER_04No, I'm gonna date myself. So we would go to Blockbuster every Friday and yeah, they'd rent the movies, and I would be watching like My Little Pony and parents go to bed, and my brothers be like, Come on, let's come on, we're gonna introduce you to this stuff.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, my brothers, Matt, you know, Matt's my brother, obviously. But uh I had I had what I had three older brothers, and I remember you guys watched uh what was it? Blair Witch. No, no, we did Blair Witch, probably. No, I'm talking about when we were kids, but okay. It was Nightmare on Elm Street, I think the second one. Is that the one with uh the bus? Yes, yes, the second one, yeah, and uh I was freaked out and I ran out of the room. So they couldn't even get me in the room. Yeah, so props to Lisa. Yeah, good job.
SPEAKER_04Thanks, thanks. Um, and my least favorite, I've made it abundantly clear sci-fi. Yeah, cannot get behind the sci-fi.
SPEAKER_03I can drag a little bit. So you didn't like the thing.
SPEAKER_04I'm sorry, I forget if you're I actually that's the exception because it's carpenter. I love carpenter. That's a great one.
SPEAKER_03Yes, it is so good. Cool.
SPEAKER_02What about uh dreams? You have any scary dreams you want to tell us about?
SPEAKER_04I wouldn't say scary, maybe freaky. Um I always hate the dreams where I realize that I am in the dream and I'm trying every which way to get up and get like out of the dream, and I just get frustrated.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like you're stuck in quicksand, like something like that. It's it's insane. Like is quicksand even a thing anymore? I it was in the 90s. I was I was terrified that I was gonna run into quicksand with all the quicksand stuff that I saw growing up. I was like, it's gonna happen and I'm gonna be stuck and I'm not gonna know how to get out.
SPEAKER_03Not too many movies with quicksand in them anymore. They gotta bring it back.
SPEAKER_02Tremors, what a great movie. But it was really quicksand. Yeah, that's not quicksand.
SPEAKER_03They were in the sand. They were in the uh the what was that Arizona desert or something? Yeah, I forget where it was. Could be Mexico. Yeah, that sounds about right too.
SPEAKER_04It might be Mexico. I think you're right on it.
SPEAKER_03Kevin Bacon. Yeah, definitely Mexico. Yeah, it's yeah, Mexico. It looks like Mexico.
SPEAKER_02I can tell by the sand.
SPEAKER_03I can tell by the way that Kevin Bacon's acting. It's definitely Mexico.
SPEAKER_02The way the sun's beating off his face. All right, so how about uh scariest thing? Scariest thing that happened to you? Um, got any ghost stories, any stuff like that?
SPEAKER_04Nothing like that, but when I was younger, I think I was like 12. I convinced my mom to you know play with the Ouija board. Oh yeah. And there was nobody in the house, it was quiet, and we asked a question and it answered, but it was perfect timing because the wind outside kind of just gushed, and there were kids outside playing and they laughed, and I we both got freaked out. We're like, okay, no more Ouija board.
SPEAKER_03We were we were growing up, we were forbidden to play that game. And it's so crazy because I mean, we come from uh, you know, uh not a super religious family or anything.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we didn't go to church.
SPEAKER_03Mom and dad would we went for a little bit, but mom and dad would like read us stories, but it was But they would so you you you might not remember because it you were probably a little bit younger, but my mom used to send us out of the house to go to church. The church was down the road walking distance. Yeah I remember that, yeah. She would say, You guys need to go to church. You need to and it was like it was just to get us out of the house. That's all it was. It wasn't anything really. So yeah, we were forbidden to play with the Ouija board. That's all right. And then there was a game too called The Watcher or something. I think it was nightmare. The gatekeeper?
SPEAKER_02The gatekeeper. We had to say, Yes, my gatekeeper, and mom walked. There was a video, there was a VHS with it, and mom walked downstairs and saw her kids sitting on the floor looking at the TV, saying, Yes, my gatekeeper. She's like, We're getting rid of this game. And it was this guy that was slowly turning like old.
SPEAKER_03He almost looked like demonic looking emperor. He looked like the emperor and stuff. Yeah. Wow, we just digressed there big time. But anyways, because he threw an Ouija board and that brought back memories. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_02All right. If you had to be bitten by vampire, zombie, or werewolf, which one and why?
SPEAKER_03I love this question, by the way. Yeah, this is a great one. I love it.
SPEAKER_04Hands down, vampire. And if I had to choose a vampire, I want David from The Lost Boys.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02With the did he have a feather in his hair, or was that one of the other games? No, he had a mullet. No, it was a beautiful mullet, though, which literally was tough to pull off.
SPEAKER_03That wasn't the key, wasn't it? He was David. Okay, cool. Awesome. I'll put it to you this way.
SPEAKER_04I was, I think, seven years old when I first watched The Lost Boys, and he came on, and I probably went through puberty right now. I was like, wow.
SPEAKER_02Speaking of ginger snaps.
SPEAKER_04Great segue, right?
SPEAKER_03Right. That's so funny. That's great. Awesome. So that was your first crush, then, yeah? Oh, God, yes, David and Keeper Sutherman. Yes.
SPEAKER_04Give me a moment, guys. I need a moment.
SPEAKER_02Timeout. Timeout. Timeout. We'll edit this all out. All right, guys. All right, let's get into ginger snaps. Matt, you want to kick us off with Dig Up the Bones? And in this, Matt just goes over the movie, a brief little synopsis, touching on any major points, and then uh we kick into it. So, Matt, take it away. Let's go.
SPEAKER_03All right. So Ginger Snaps, and it uh was the initial release was in uh August 1st, 2000. Director was John Fawcett. It's starring Emily Perkins, Katherine Isabel, Chris Lemch, and Mimi Rogers. Which Mimi Rogers is, yeah.
SPEAKER_02When she showed up, I was like, what is she doing?
SPEAKER_04I was like, I know her.
SPEAKER_02I know.
SPEAKER_04Like I don't know her now.
SPEAKER_02Which is crazy because she was married to like Tom Cruise. She was married to Tom Cruise, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I was like, yeah. Interesting. Sorry. So no, you're good. So uh there is a sequel, Jim Ginger Snaps 2. Yeah, sorry. Derek, I think he watched it. I started watching it and I and I was I I kind of stopped.
SPEAKER_02Lisa saw them all, right? Yes, I have. Oh, funny. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Alright, so this was uh music was by Mike Shields, and it was distributed by Lionsgate.
SPEAKER_02Cool. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Box Office Gross was 21.1 million.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_03The cost for this movie was 4.5 million.
SPEAKER_02I killed it. So we made it. Good job, Fawcett.
SPEAKER_03Good job. All right, now I'll go into the story of the movie. So the story of two outcast sisters, Ginger, played by Catherine Isabel and Bridget, played by Emily Perkins, in the mindless suburban town of Bailey Downs on the night of Ginger's first period. She is savagely attacked by a wild creature. Ginger's wound miraculously heal, but something is not quite right. Now Bridget must save her sister and save herself.
SPEAKER_02So how did you, Matt, how'd you feel when we pulled Ginger Snaps off the wheel?
SPEAKER_03I was I was like, okay, another movie, here we go. I mean, I I didn't I I mean I was for some reason without looking at it, I was thinking of like a gingerbread man. Oh I know there's a gingerbread man horror movie. So I was thinking, okay, is this gonna be like uh like a fucking like a horror comedy? Like a horror comedy, which I love. Those are if you're talking about genre, those are my favorite.
SPEAKER_02Oh, cool, yeah.
SPEAKER_03You know, the the uh the zombie land stuff like that. But I mean, I was ready for it, obviously. I mean I have to be ready for it, but but uh I was looking for a gingerbread man. Nice.
SPEAKER_02So Lisa, as a listener, how were you were you excited when we landed on ginger snaps and you already knew the movie?
SPEAKER_04Well, first I was like, ooh, ginger snaps, a delicious cookie.
SPEAKER_02It's my favorite cookie, it is a good cookie. Yeah, not as good, not as good as Snickerdoodles.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. I like a good molasses cookie, dude.
SPEAKER_03I'm I'm all about some snaps. I have molasses in my cupboard that I've been talking about for a very long time. You've been talking about molasses? How do you talk about molasses? I'm like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make, I'm gonna make some cookies, but I've never done it. Anyways, edit that one. It's all going on the end.
SPEAKER_04Um no, um I heard it. I was like, okay, it's it's a decent movie. I wasn't overly excited about it, but it wasn't that Donald Duck murder movie. So I was okay with ginger stuff.
SPEAKER_02That was a beautiful movie. It's a terrible movie, get real. I know. I know. Alright, so you guys, let's get into it. Feasting. And this we just have a round table discussion on overall pros, cons of the movie, favorite lines, most enjoyable and most annoying characters, favorite kills slash scares. So, Lisa, have the honors. What's your pros?
SPEAKER_04Ooh, okay, I have a couple. Um while watching this, I didn't know if I should put some of these in the pros because I just I really wanted to point them out and talk about them. But anyways, here goes. The beginning part when the woman comes out frantic, she's like, Oh my gosh, I got my dog. And the kids just sat there and laughed.
SPEAKER_02Oh, those shitheads? Yeah, yeah. Fucking playing hockey.
SPEAKER_04I I started laughing because I probably would have done the same thing as a child, so like, what a crazy woman.
SPEAKER_03What is the matter with her?
SPEAKER_04Um I did appreciate the beginning of the movie, the like the different photographs that they did for their project with the different kills. I love that. I loved that. I was like, oh wow, that's pretty different.
SPEAKER_02It was that urgent stuff, I thought. Yeah, that school project they did was awesome. Yeah, and I enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_04I what I appreciate about it is like it shows the viewer that these are twisted girls that love death without really having to like make it that obvious. It was just like that little hint. I really appreciated that. Um, I did appreciate the werewolf attack scene. I thought that was pretty well done. Uh, like it it really gave a lot with such little. Again, goes back to the simplicity of giving the viewer just a little bit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04And then lastly, you know, I thoroughly enjoyed throughout the movie, it was a little by little transformation for gender. Slowly moving.
SPEAKER_02First, a little bit of hair on the shoulders, then her face was changing. Yeah, the nails, the teeth.
SPEAKER_04I was like, oh, that's clever. Again, the simpli simplicity of it.
SPEAKER_03I appreciate it. That was good. Yeah, like that. Matt, what about you? You're pro. So going to the mom, I I feel like the mom played by Mimi Rogers. No, no, no. The uh the scene where the lady comes running out. Oh, yeah, everybody in the neighborhood is kind of doing their thing. They stop for a second and then they go back to what they're doing. I feel like this isn't her first time she's ran out front and screamed something. I have to agree. Like, dinner's ready. Like, ah fucking Carol over there yelling again. So, anyways, I I just thought that was funny. But um, so yeah, so my pros were, you know, I thought I I really liked the buddy sister um yeah thing, the relationship, the relationship together. I thought that that was really cool, you know. No matter what, they're in it together. Ginger was very protective of Bridget, you know, and they just stuck together, even though I thought Bridget was a little too emo.
SPEAKER_02I mean, she she was emo, actually at the time of emo, so yes.
SPEAKER_03But you know what? What's funny too? Because I I thought as I was writing this down my prose, I'm like, I feel like she was too emo, but I I know some people that were too emo, so she probably played that real quick. Why are you looking at me? No, no, no, no, not you.
SPEAKER_04The elephant in the room.
SPEAKER_02So yeah. Here's my question about Bridget, real quick. We're getting off on tangents that's fine kind of. But like there was something about her hair that was driving me crazy. Was she wearing I thought it was a wig, yeah, because it didn't look natural at all. And it was it was it was like an inch off of her head. Did you see? I know you look up interesting facts. Did you see if that was a wig or anything? I didn't see it. And it contributed to her emo look. That's why I thought of it.
SPEAKER_03But it was very stringy and just kind of yeah, yeah, it was weird. It's like, yeah. All right. But uh, no, that was that's good.
SPEAKER_04No, that I agree to your point. I I was like, very odd.
SPEAKER_03So I thought, so going back to my cons, I thought both of them played their roles really well. So good acting? Good acting. I thought they both played their their roles really well. From Emily and Isabel. Yeah, they did good. I like the storyline. I liked how I I'm I always like how a movie like kind of explains sort of what's going on. Yeah. Now we don't know where the initial there's the other question. Was it a werewolf?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Was it? Right? Because don't werewolves in in in like the order of horror movies or whatever, isn't it like you can only kill a werewolf by a silver bullet? I think a fucking truck hit this thing and that was it. A van rather hit this thing.
SPEAKER_04But remember, I might be jumping ahead. They talk about that. Yeah, they talk about it. Oh, do they?
SPEAKER_03Okay. Well, shame on me.
SPEAKER_02Because I when it was Sam, damn it. Shame on you. But I think when they were talking to Sam, they brought up like the silver bullet stuff and they were trying to find a cure and all that.
SPEAKER_03So I take that back. But I like the storyline too. I thought the storyline was good. Yeah. And then I thought it was a great teen horror movie. I'm from the 90s, where like, you know, craft and all that kind of stuff. But it's like, but it's like that was like that's like a perfect movie for sort of my my age, where you know, the the those kind of movies were just were just awesome, very cult, classic sort of stuff.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, I dug it. Alright, so I'm gonna jump in. You know, I'm pretty much gonna echo uh Matt and uh Lisa here, but you know, I just said it was a smart take on a werewolf film. As far as I know, this is the first werewolf film where they had, you know, the changing of a girl into womanhood coinciding with being bitten by a werewolf and how you know some sim similarities between the two. And then I just thought it was well done without leaning into like cheap similarities, and it did it subtly and it was it was really well done. But then, you know, to Matt's point about the relationship, I just said who else would help you bury a body and then talk shit to you while doing it besides your sister or brother. Right. So I thought that relationship was done very well. Yeah, and you know that that that was my that was my pros. Perfect.
SPEAKER_04Solid pros.
SPEAKER_02We're gonna keep it going on to cons. Lisa, cons.
SPEAKER_04Um, so my first con, although I do appreciate the fact that they did not use CGI, they kept it very simplistic with realistic effects. Yeah. The dog in the beginning I felt was a little too fake.
SPEAKER_02I was like, I th I thought the way they shot that at the angle, like it wasn't like it's just a straight like shot, like right square on the frame. I thought the angle that came, it made it cool how it like you saw the dog's face, and then it just like it's in trails and then his bloody little doghouse. I enjoyed that, but fair enough.
SPEAKER_03To your to your point though, that that dog wasn't the one that threw me off. It was the it was where they were where they grabbed the other dog to try to I guess they're talking about the one on the on the field hockey? No, not the field hockey one, the other one where the leg pulled. Where they were trying to get the girl that was picking on them, they were trying to like like Oh, they were gonna go steal her dog. Yeah, yeah. But when they pulled this other dog, it looked like a stuffed animal to me.
SPEAKER_02When did they get to that?
SPEAKER_03It was we can cut this out too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02Because on the way to get uh to get Maya's dog is when uh Ginger got attacked. So they never made it.
SPEAKER_03I know what you're talking about by the playground, right? Yes, that dog that dog looked ridiculously fake. Okay. It was like almost like two perfect hair, like like on a stuffed animal.
SPEAKER_04It's the night she gets attacked.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that was hey, I yeah, I was just so traumatized by the attack. I completely blocked out the fake looking dog. No, it's fine. I didn't mean to I didn't mean to step on your cons, but I agree with you with the dog stuff.
SPEAKER_04You know, uh my other con, I wouldn't necessarily say it's a con, but uh it was a WTF moment. They're in high school, and then you see the chick with I'm like, who brings a dog to high school? What is this? And this is not a service dog. You can tell it's not.
SPEAKER_03I was just like Lisa, Lisa, wait, wait, wait, wait. Listen to me. That high school was fucked all together. Yeah, so they're out there smoking on the field, like not even really being that discreet about it, just like you're you know, yeah, smoking on the field. What the the gym teacher is just like oblivious to anything that's going on. I mean, it was, and then the dog walk, I'm like, who the fuck brings a dog to high school? Like, and it was it is Canada, they may they may operate differently. Oh, eh? And on top of that, it was a Rottweiler. Exactly. Yeah, it was a Rottweiler, you're right.
SPEAKER_04I think my reaction was, what the fuck? And Roger looks at me like what? And I'm like, there's just a random dog here.
SPEAKER_03Me and my wife watched it. We were doing the same thing. Like, what high school is this? It was it's Bailey, Bailey High School.
SPEAKER_02All right. Oh, absolutely. You said, did you have more?
SPEAKER_04I have one more. The parents, specifically the dad. Dad, take it away. I was just like, first off, you can edit this out, but I was like, is he a Republican? Like, what the hell?
SPEAKER_02Very absentee fatherish.
SPEAKER_04He was, and just some of the outlandish things like, you know, let's have a cake for your first period. Like, that was just yeah, yeah. The dinner scenes did it for me. Um, then the mom's like, at the end, she did that transformation of I'm gonna protect my daughters, let's burn this bitch down. I was like, Whoa, the parents are just a little conny for me through this. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03So I've got more on the dad for you later. I okay Matt knows all about dads. Yeah, I do. He's really into dads. Dads are either cool or bad. Whatever.
SPEAKER_02So a wide yeah, wide range. Huge range.
SPEAKER_03They're either cool or not so cool. Not so cool, yeah. Any more cons?
SPEAKER_04Nope, that was about it.
SPEAKER_03Matt, what do you got for your cons? All right. So my cons, I just put down, okay. Now, I and my wife agreed with me, so I'm allowed to say this. Okay. Just a little too much menstruation uh talk and action shots.
SPEAKER_02So the flow was a little too heavy. It was a little too much. It was kind of heavy.
SPEAKER_03I mean, we could I get it.
SPEAKER_02I thought it was subtle enough, but like realistic. I I I didn't think it was beating us over the head with it.
SPEAKER_03So there's just a couple. Well, there were a couple scenes. There's there's when it first happened. Yeah. And then there was she has it on her leg. Right. Yeah. And then it was when um they were standing in the bathroom and she was and it was happening there. But she was also transforming at that time too, because that was after the uh werewolf attack. But also the other so the other scene too that probably of all of them, that was probably the most disturbing thing.
SPEAKER_04Was it was it the underwear?
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_04My mom tried to shout it out.
SPEAKER_03I was like she tried to shout it out. Yeah, exactly. I was like, okay, yeah, I get it.
SPEAKER_04I mean, you know, without take taking away from your cons uh from a female, I can buy the first scene with the on the leg. But I I do have to agree with you. Um it got a little too too much. But to Derek's point, she was starting to transform, so it probably, you know, sped it up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, those how about you, Derek? What do you got for us?
SPEAKER_02So I enjoyed the s the slow transformation into the werewolf for ginger, but uh I thought that the final look was just a little hokey, and you know, and I I I saw how it made sense that it was kind of hairless because she was like a new werewolf, but I I I I would have wished that there was like more of a fierce look to her, and she didn't look so much like a ball of play-doh. Right. So I didn't enjoy the final look so much for her, and that was pretty much it, because I talked about you know the high school scene being pretty much a teenage smoke commercial. That was my only other guy.
SPEAKER_04Was it was it the albino look? She not like the albino looking.
SPEAKER_02Perhaps, but I it just didn't look fierce enough, and uh it it wasn't brooding enough. But like I said, I get it, and it makes sense because she's a girl who is transforming into this werewolf and she's young and stuff, so I get it. But for me, for it to be intimidating, I needed To be a little bit more scary.
SPEAKER_04But if you look at the picture um in the beginning that they took of the initial werewolf, I think he was white too and looked just like that.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah? Oh yeah. Possibly. You know what? I think I did see a still uh from when the truck was about to hit him from the backside. And you're you're right. He was he didn't have a lot of things. Yeah, absolutely. You're right. Absolutely. Okay, well, I didn't like any of them. Stupid werewolves. All right, let's move on to favorite lines. Lisa, favorite lines.
SPEAKER_04Ooh, I have like three.
SPEAKER_02Okay, great.
SPEAKER_04So the first one is uh B and Ginger were talking and they were making fun of I think it was Trina, is the bad girl. Yes. And uh I think it was B that said it. Your standard cumbuckety date bait. And I was like, nice. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And her friend overheard it and told her that's when it was like, it's fucking Donkey Kong.
SPEAKER_03I watched the when she was I was reading her lips when she was telling they're talking about you. Oh wow. Look at you digging so deep.
SPEAKER_02It's deep dive there. What do you got? What else you got, Lisa?
SPEAKER_04Um the second one, Ginger goes to be if you don't like your ideas, stop having them.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I love that. Because and that and that go that went with my like this is such a sister, like brothers, you know, that type of relationship movie because like they're going to bury a body. If you don't like your ideas, stop fucking having them. I was like, that's a sister land to give. I loved it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because I do that with my brothers all the time. Yeah, exactly. And then the last one, which both Roger and I busted out laughing, was uh Trina, stick my fist.
SPEAKER_03What is it? I missed it.
SPEAKER_04Trina, stick my fist. That's when they got caught in the van. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah. Hilarious. Matt, what about you? What do you got for the last one?
SPEAKER_03So um, so when they're at the convenience store, um okay, Bridget, Bridget asks uh Ginger, Are you sure it's just cramps? And Ginger responds, is just so you know, the words just and cramps, they don't go together. Yeah. So I thought that was pretty funny.
SPEAKER_04Yes, I I relate it to that.
SPEAKER_03You better know. So don't ever say, Yeah, I get it, I get you just have cramps.
SPEAKER_02You just say, I'm so sorry, and you're gonna say, I'm wrong, you're right. Always I'm out. What do you need?
SPEAKER_04Just have a bar of chocolate on demand. That works out.
SPEAKER_02There you go. All right, uh, that takes us through lines. Oh, what's a gauntch? I wrote that down. Isn't that your isn't that your that was when they were shoots? That was what yeah. I can see your gaunch. Yeah. So I'm guessing it's slang for lady parts, but that was hilarious. When uh they were shooting the uh the photos for their class, yeah, she was impaled on the fence. She's like, I can see your gaunch. And I was like, that's a Canadian slang for something, isn't it? Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_04I can see your gaunch, eh?
SPEAKER_02So did you do your favorite lines? I'm sorry. I don't think so. Well, you guys, you you both took mine. So I I liked I liked the uh convenience store interaction and then just telling her stop having ideas.
SPEAKER_04Overall, there were so many good one-liners throughout.
SPEAKER_02All right. Most enjoyable characters. Let's go with Lisa.
SPEAKER_04So I'm gonna go in. Um, my favorite, favorite character was Samuel. I really enjoyed him.
SPEAKER_03Oh, you like Samuel? I did.
SPEAKER_04He was kind of the hero, but he wasn't overdoing it. He just really uh cared um about the the girls, specifically B. Yeah. Um, and he even like said no no to the sexual advances. So I was like, good job.
SPEAKER_03Stand up being yeah, he fought, like he kept saying, no, stop, no.
SPEAKER_02He didn't fight at first, but he he did stop it before it went too far.
SPEAKER_04He did, and then yeah, uh Ginger broke his arm, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's that's some rough uh bedroom play right there.
SPEAKER_04And I will say this, and I don't know if you guys are gonna agree with me when we start talking about the characters, but there were certain scenes I loved Ginger, and then there are certain scenes I hated her. And the same thing went with B. Like it was just depending on the scene and how they were interacting, it was like, you know what, Ginger's pretty badass. And I liked her that's like more in the beginning, but when she started transforming, I was like, ill. Same thing with B.
SPEAKER_03Oh, cool. Yeah, no, I can see that for sure. Okay, Matt, uh to to what you said about Sam, I I like Sam, but I didn't, I didn't the only thing I I didn't believe was was his badassness. I just I like it was the he was a drug dealer, right? He was a drug dealer, but he's like he wasn't like he wasn't I didn't I didn't see him as being this like badass, but he was he was a great you know sort of protector and stuff and and helped him out and stuff. But anyways, so my my um most enjoyable was I did like ginger. Okay. I like ginger, I did like Bridget, but I I like ginger just a little bit more. So that was probably my favorite one, yeah. Cool, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I was the same. I like ginger. I just thought like she like in the beginning she gave attitude to a movie that like needed attitude and she she showed like the teenage teenage angst really well and like being combative with her mom. So I enjoyed ginger a lot.
SPEAKER_03So again at the beginning of the book. Again, even Bridget with the whole emo thing that I was saying earlier. I mean, I thought maybe she was overplaying it, but then again, maybe not, because that's the way a lot of emos do act.
SPEAKER_02So all right, so let's move on to most annoying characters. Okay, I I got a few here, but uh Lisa, take it away.
SPEAKER_04I do have a few. I mean, the obvious three dumb high schoolers and the bleachers. Oh, the friends of yeah.
SPEAKER_03Uh what was uh it was uh Jason was like the ringbinger. Timmy and I forget the other kid's name.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_03The fact that you know one of the other kids' names is pretty good because all I have was Jason, the other douchebags. Jason and Timmy. Yeah, those are the only things.
SPEAKER_04I just I thought they were douchebags. They're sitting there ranking the girls, like, oh yeah, baby, bounce for me. I'm like, what a douche.
SPEAKER_03Again, again, going back to what the fuck high school is this?
SPEAKER_02And the fucking teacher or coach just allowing the fucking girls to be catcalled. Yeah. Like, what are you doing? And there's a dead dog in the field. Sorry, I'm jumping all over you.
SPEAKER_04It's fine. But I love this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's get the combo going.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, them, and then obviously you hate Trina or Trina or whatever her name is. Uh she's just a bitch, and I used to get picked on in high school like bitches like that. So I was having flashbacks, it was PTSP, man.
SPEAKER_01Get it out, yeah. Get it out.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but those were my least favorite. Oh, and the dad, we've touched base on the dad, but I'm sure I will give it to Matt because he has some pointers. You got dad info. You got the dad one.
SPEAKER_03It's not the dad info, but guess who my least favorite character was? The dad. Yeah. The dad. So the dad to me served no real purpose in this movie. I thought he was just like I was actually talking to my wife about it. Um, because she hers her thoughts were too. And her thoughts were like with the mom, like it was just like oblivious to anything, but just trying to appease her daughters. But the dad was the worst because he just she could have been a single mom and did all that stuff. There was no reason they could have saved themselves some money and not have a dad. Yeah, he served no purpose. The scene where they find the fingers in the yard and the dad, the dad found the fingers, could have done without him. Yeah, she could have just grabbed the finger and said, Oh, oh, it's props for their photography or whatever. Dad, get him out. No reason for him. So that was mine.
SPEAKER_04And you know, not to step on toes or anything, but can we talk about who has period cakes? Oh, I'm just saying, yeah. I is that a thing?
SPEAKER_03I I would not know. Uh I would I would venture to say that it is probably a thing. Really? I would venture to say if you if you took a poll, if you took a pull, I guarantee you you'd you'd have some people that have gotten some either cake or something. You're gonna have to post that one yourself. I think we should pull that.
SPEAKER_04I think we should, because when I got it, my mom's like, here's a box of pads, honey. Good luck.
SPEAKER_03I read read the directions, you'll figure it out. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So is is that like a strawberry short cake then? Or whatever? There was a strawberry short cake, but then uh what kind of cake? What kind of cake?
SPEAKER_04It was a pound cake with like some strawberry cherry stuff on it. I was like, okay.
SPEAKER_02So to what you said, like a chocolate bar, I would think a Purie cake should be like maybe a chocolate cake. Like something. Like maybe not stuff with red oozing things on it. Oh god.
SPEAKER_04So, anyways, Matt, what other least favorite characters did you have?
SPEAKER_03Oh my god. Well, so I did so so the I my actual original uh character that I but then I had to think a little bit more was uh Jason. I think it was I think his name was Jason.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the the head douchebag.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the head douchebag.
SPEAKER_01I like that.
SPEAKER_03So he I didn't like him because I mean I know in a movie you have to have that sort of part of the movie. There's gotta be something that antagonists. Yeah, there's gotta be something there. So I get that, but I just didn't I didn't like his character. Yeah. I thought I thought again they could have done without that, but I know there has to be that too.
SPEAKER_02So I was I was bummed as far as Jason goes. So Jason was starting to transform after he had intercourse with uh Ginger, and I was bummed that he was the one that got the cure. And it was like the least deserving person to get any cure of anything. Like if he got a cold, he should have gone down from the cold. Like he did not deserve the cure at all. So I was I was bummed that he got it.
SPEAKER_04To piggyback off, though, and I don't mean again to step on toes, so just help me to show you.
SPEAKER_02Nobody's stepping on toes. Bring it.
SPEAKER_04Jason, I I appreciate the fact that during the sex scene that they kind of flipped the tables and made him be a piece of meat. I was like, Yeah, I like that jerk.
SPEAKER_02He even said I think at one point, I'm not a piece of meat. He did, and I for I forget what Ginger said, but uh I was like, tables are turned for sure. It was it was cool. All right. Uh I think my it's my turn for most annoying characters, and you guys pretty much hit it. I said uh Henry Fitzgerald, which was a father for all the same reasons Matt said, and then Jason McCarty, which was the head douchebag, just an ass clown. But I also said the gym teacher for what I what I interjected in the middle of uh Lisa's uh annoying character. It's just like, how are how are you running this class? How are you a teacher at this fucking school? Yeah and this madness is going on of a dead dog in a field and assholes in a stand kids smoking, yeah, cat calling on the stand. Ridiculous. So Miss Sykes, fuck you. Was that her name? Yeah, Miss Sykes.
SPEAKER_04Can we put that on a shirt? Yeah, Miss Sykes, fuck you.
SPEAKER_02All right, let's go to favorite kill slash scares. Lisa, take it away.
SPEAKER_04Um, so obviously the Trina kill I thought was a little comical. They didn't even kill her, she did that herself. Killed herself, yeah. I mean, yeah, they added gasoline to the fire and taunted her, but she did it herself, and I was just like, Yeah, like you finally deserve it. Yeah, and then um that was pretty much my favorite kill. But what I really enjoyed about the killings throughout this movie, especially in the beginning, you don't see them. Like you just pop in and there's blood and ginger sitting there, and I'm like, oh, that's uniquely done. Again, back to the sim simple things. Um, it wasn't until the end where you started seeing more of the kills, but um overall that Trina was my favorite, and that's how I feel about the kills through the movie.
SPEAKER_02So to to jump on the Trina thing, it was so funny. I've I figured they could have played that off like this girl came over and was arguing with us and slipped on a floor and hurt herself. Like they didn't have to play it off like they killed her, but then you know, when they put her in the freezer, it's like, oh now you yeah, now you're you've went and done it, you silly girls.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, mom opens the freezer and Trina's.
SPEAKER_02It was like just tell like, hey, this girl came over to attack us and slipped on the floor.
SPEAKER_03Trina's literally chilling out.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Dad jokes, dad jokes, you should hang out with Mr. Henry. 2022.
SPEAKER_04But honestly, though, to your point, during that kill, I was like, How the hell are they gonna clean that up in time? Oh, I know and how they covered it.
SPEAKER_02And I was that was brilliant, and to bring it back to the beginning with their morbid photo sheets. So, yeah, it was great. Yes. All right, Matt, what about you? Favorite kill scare?
SPEAKER_03I mean, like, you know, you didn't see anything, any real kill scenes or anything like that, like we said. Um, so mine was when Ginger got the uh earring from Sam to go pierce uh uh I'm sorry, Bridget. Bridget got the earring from Sam to go pierce Bridget's belly button because of the silver or whatever. And I didn't I cringe at that. That was probably the only super turn my head because I don't I don't like that kind of shit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm like uh so you're not gonna get a belly button piercing anytime soon? Not yet.
SPEAKER_03Not yet.
SPEAKER_02It's a good look for guys in their 40s.
SPEAKER_03I'm almost I'm almost midlife crisis. We'll see what happens. I'll get a to uh a Corvette and a belly button.
SPEAKER_02Button piercing, yeah. And you have to wear midriffs so people can. Oh, definitely. Well, why would you get a belly button not that seems you get like the little bedazzled ones that have like the jewels on them? Well, I'm gonna get the plastic little beads on them. Oh, yeah. The yellow and stuff. Yeah, it'll be pretty. And then you can get a nose ring and you can get the string connecting to it. Now you're just getting carried away.
SPEAKER_04And your nipple pierced. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's the trifecta. How do you know that's not already done? And your belly button to the trifecta. There you go.
SPEAKER_04I will say this to your point. As somebody who has a navel piercing, I totally agree with that. Because I like was like, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03My wife had one and it was pretty gruesome. I wasn't there when she got it or anything, but she got one. Melissa had one in uh years ago. But yeah.
SPEAKER_02Is it when she went to Mexico? Mexico.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. She got braided uh hair braided hair and a navel piercing. Yeah, navel piercing. Mexico's we're all over the place today.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we are, but it's cool. I guess my favorite kill was uh I enjoyed when Bridget and Ginger like did the photos at the beginning. Oh, yeah. I just thought all those were really creative, and it was awesome how they pulled it off. And it was a shame that their teacher, you know, dogged them brain class.
SPEAKER_04That was creative.
SPEAKER_03This is the worst high school ever, I'm telling you. There's so many things wrong. Yeah, way to stomp on a creative mind and like get the hell out of my classroom, yeah, go see the guidance counselor. What's the matter with you?
SPEAKER_04Isn't it ironic that the whatever I don't even know, was he like history or like social studies or math class?
SPEAKER_03Math class. Math class, what yeah, they had to put on a presentation social issues class, maybe but like I just thought it was funny.
SPEAKER_04We're dogging him on what he the gym teacher should have been doing. That's true, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It was just too extreme. Yeah, yeah. It's like big asshole didn't give a shit about anything.
SPEAKER_03Well, think about the school again. So you think about the school, you have the the gym teacher, the whatever social teacher, whatever, the um the lady, the nurse.
SPEAKER_04Oh, that scene was hysterical.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I forgot about her.
SPEAKER_03It's like it's all natural. Yeah, you go. Yeah, and she hands him condoms and stuff. Like, wait a second, wait. And then I asked my wife, because she's a school teacher. I go, is that acceptable for a teacher to hand out condoms to now it is? You better. I think it is now. Now you better.
SPEAKER_04In in middle school when we did sex ed, they did give us a condom.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I remember I remember sixth grade or something when we had health class like sex ed, and they gave us like a condom. Oh, maybe.
SPEAKER_03And then a lot of like floating things through the hallways, yeah, kids blowing them up as balloons. Yeah, I do remember that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, uh, so I've that was my favorite kill, but then for scares, uh, I I did enjoy when Sam got taken by the ginger wolf because it it did like it was a little jump scare, and it got me pretty good. So, you know, that was a that was a good scene and well done for the scare, Mr. Fawcett. Nice. Alright, guys, let's move on to final cut uh in this I reveal the shocking ending of the film, and then we discuss Ingraver ratings of one to five stabs. One stab, atrocious, no redeeming value, waste of time. Two stabs, bad, forgettable, poorly done, three stabs, mixed feelings, mediocre, okay? Four stabs, good, interesting, enjoyable, and then five stabs. Masterpiece, excellent, perfect. So, Ginger returns to school looking for Jason. As Bridget arrives, a message on a PA asks her to go to the guidance counselor's office. She knocks and is dragged inside by Ginger, who has killed the counselor. Bridget calms Ginger down and goes to find cleaning supplies, but returns to see the jander with his throat torn open. He survives, though infected, until Bridget says he should have gotten help and incites Ginger to disembow him. Pamela Fitzgerald, the mother, discovers Trina's corpse and goes looking for her daughters. While she is looking for her daughter, she sees Bridget running and picks her up. As she drives her to the greenhouse bash, she tells her that she will burn the house down by letting it fill up with gas, then letting a match to erase the evidence of Trina's death. Bridget arrives and finds Sam rejecting Ginger's advances. As he approaches Ginger, she breaks Sam's arm. In despair, Bridget infects herself as Sam pleads to her not to. As the sisters leave, Sam knocks Ginger out with a shovel, and Bridget and Sam load her up in a van to take her back to the home and give her the cure. Ginger fully transforms in the back of the van and breaks out, and afraid and unaware, she is transformed. Sam and Bridget hide in a pantry. He makes a solution, and as he goes to find Ginger, the ginger wolf mutilates Sam. Bridget picks up the drop syringe and follows the blood trail downstairs, running into Sam and the Ginger Wolf, and she tries to drink Sam's blood and attempt to calm down her sister, but chokes on it. The ginger wolf senses Bridget's insincerity and kills Sam in front of her. As the ginger wolf stalks Bridget through the basement, Bridget returns to the room where they grew up, finding the knife that Ginger had used before on her tail. And Bridget holds the cure in one hand and knife in the other as the gingerwolf lunges at her and stabs her with a knife instead of the cure. As the movie ends, Bridget lays her head upon the gingerwolf sobbing, listening to her breathing until she stops. Very sad.
SPEAKER_03Very sad. So I love that I love that part though, where at the end, where you know, she still, even though she's now tr fully transformed, her sister still goes over and lays her lays her head on her on her and waits for her last breath.
SPEAKER_02And the fact the fact that she had you know this the cure in one hand and then a means to protect herself in the other, she, you know, she knew the the craziness of the situation, but she was still hoping for the best. Yeah. And it was just it just so happened that she got stuck with the wrong one instead of the instead of the cure. Great ending. Yeah, it was great ending.
SPEAKER_04Agree, agree, agree. Great ending. Sad but good.
SPEAKER_02Alright, guys, you ready for your stabs? Let's do it. Let's do the stabs. Let's do it. Lisa, take the stab. The first stab.
SPEAKER_04First off, whoever was the smart alec who said I rate my movies 2.5.
SPEAKER_02That was me.
SPEAKER_04Derek.
SPEAKER_02Constantly. Are we getting a 3.5?
SPEAKER_04We're getting a 3 out of 5. A three out of five.
SPEAKER_02Suck it. Solid. So I can go eat it.
SPEAKER_04Yes, go eat it. Um, you know, I appreciated the different take on a traditional uh wolf movie because we always know it's a man who transforms, and we have all these sets of rules, which they threw out the door. Uh there were some questionable choices through the movie and some loopholes, but overall, it's not a bad movie. Would I pay to go see this or watch it? No.
SPEAKER_02But I think goodness for streaming services.
SPEAKER_04Right. Thank you, Tubi. Um, but I do think it deserves at least one watch. Uh, but if you want to go for the sequel and the prequel, good luck, guys, because those are not so good.
SPEAKER_03Oh boy. Awesome. Matt, what about your stabs? So I I actually uh enjoyed this movie. Um to me it felt a little nostalgic just because of the time I grew up in or whatever. Yeah. And the movies that's too far off from us. No, I know I'm not, but it's just like I just remember these movies, sort of the backdrop and the feel of these movies, you know, where like there's some some kind of like uh you know so social awkwardness or you know, some darkness and stuff. But I I I liked it. So overall I gave it a four. I I would I wouldn't go pay to see it, so maybe that's that's a good way to look at some of these movies, but but I like Lisa said, I think it's uh I think it's a good movie to watch at least one time. Yeah. Great teen movie, I think. So yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I we we've had a couple films, like we talked about the innkeepers, like it's a good introductory to the horror. It's not too crazy. Like, this is another one I would put in that camp. It's a good introduction to horror. If you don't want to, you know, be up late at night with cold sweats, right? Check this out.
SPEAKER_04That's that's a solid point. I agree with that.
SPEAKER_02So um overall, I just thought it was a decent film and well-executed premise with you know the girl being transformed along with her, you know, natural progression through life. And I just gave it I gave it three stabs. So let's move on to Voices from Beyond. And this is where we go through our social media platforms and then choose some listeners' posts and share them with you guys. So, first up, we got Jeremy W. And he said, Well, the for the first one, of course, was by far the best out of the three. So he's speaking of all all the films. Uh, and he said, There's really no cons in the movie. He loved it all. Uh, my favorite character was, of course, Ginger. Uh, annoying character was the guy Ginger ends up infecting when they fucked in the car. Adult language, Jeremy. Jeremy, check yourself, brother. Yeah, check yourself, brother.
SPEAKER_03Which we try to keep this PG.
SPEAKER_02Oh, we lost that a long time ago. Yeah, we did. All right, he continues on. Uh, favorite line was by far in the beginning when Britney, I think it means Bridget, was like, I can see your gaunch lol, classic. Good line, Jeremy. Uh, found it interesting that the two girls did different death photos for their uh photography class. Uh so morbid but yet interesting, like a car crash, you can't just look away. His favorite kill or scare was when Ginger first gets attacked by the beast, and then he also found it fascinating how throughout the film uh Ginger was transforming into a werewolf slowly, so to Lisa's point. Yeah. So that was Jeremy W. Thanks, Jeremy.
SPEAKER_04See, sometimes I know what I'm talking about. They're agreeing. Yes. Thank you, Jeremy, by the way.
SPEAKER_02All right, looks like next we got Tim from uh actually he's from the podcast Horror Flicks and Guitar Picks podcast. He interviews uh like heavy metal hardcore musicians and they talk about horror films. But uh he said Ginger Snaps is a film that for me would be hands down in my top five werewolf films of all time, possibly top three. It's a perfect blend of dark humor and gory scenes filled with practical effects that catch. Of Catherine Isabel and Emily Perkins as Ginger and Bridget. Couldn't have been better. This one I'd recommend to any level of horror fans. So that's from Tim at Horror Flicks and Guitar Picks. Thanks, Tim. Next up we have Jamie F. He says, Well, this movie certainly didn't turn out as I expected. I was a little disappointed that Ginger didn't get any superpowers. I was expecting to see some vansurfing and a few basketball dunks. Teen Wolf style. Wrong movie, Jamie. His favorite character was Bridget. Uh worst character was the dad. Alright. So dads recognize dads.
SPEAKER_03Dads being dads.
SPEAKER_02Yep. And then he says, Come on, figure shit out. I could have done uh without that tail. Oh, her little tail. I think it will give me nightmares. And then he uh he finishes up with saying, It wasn't wrapped up in a nice bow at the end, which I always need for closure. Hope that doesn't mean I need to watch Ginger Snaps 2. Overall, not a bad movie, considering uh likely budget for this film. I give it a solid three stabs. Three stabs from Jamie, who gave four stabs to the demented. Let us all remember that.
SPEAKER_03Remember that.
SPEAKER_02And then next up we got a sec. Oh never mind.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I almost go into Jamie.
SPEAKER_02No, we're not going up on Jamie. Next up, we got Melissa W. She says, What a movie. Teens dealing with teen stuff, bullies, peer pressure, relationships, those annoying cheaters, and oh yeah, a changing into a hideous creature. Mom was my favorite in her snazzy denim shirts and turtlenecks and cutesy pumpkin earrings. She was seriously paying attention to mom. Her heart to heart would be about what men really want.
SPEAKER_00I freaking be right.
SPEAKER_02And then she says, The mom was a riot to me. She obviously yet wanting her teenage daughters to love and approval, then uh ready to make drastic changes to protect them and start their lives fresh. Way to go, mom. If you like ridiculous horror flicks, then you should check out Ginger Snaps. Ooh, she's getting a little tag at the end. Nice. Alright, so that takes us through our voices from beyond. Uh Matt, did you have any interesting things?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. So uh I always like to try to look up some fun facts and everything. Um, so what I found was was very interesting. So I don't know if you know this or not, but the actress Isabel Um and Perkins uh that played uh Bridget the Sisters, right? Yeah, they shared many things in common. Oh, yeah, I did see that. Yeah. Both were born in the same hospital, attended the same school, had the same agent, and were represented by the same casting agency in Vancouver. As a result, they uh they'd known each other for many years before casting in the movie. Funny enough, Perkins played Isabella's younger sister, despite the fact that Perkins was five years older. Yeah. So I thought that was kind of cool and interesting.
SPEAKER_02They also, I think both of them were on an episode of X Files. Oh, maybe, yeah. Yeah, but then their their careers intercross a bunch of times. They play Sisters again in like um oh my it's it's like like a Selena. It was like a Disney movie with like Selena Gomez or something. They played sisters, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, you have a kid, you watch the Disney stuff. I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_02We can't get enough of Selena Gomez in this house, man. We love it. Look out for you. Does anybody else have any other fun facts? No, I didn't I didn't really look at it. You got something for us?
SPEAKER_04I mean, if you enjoy the actress who played Ginger Snaps, she's in this other horror movie called Disturbing Behavior, which I do recommend. It's a pretty good disturbing.
SPEAKER_02It's got uh Katie Holmes in it too. Yes, it does. Oh, okay. That was uh I I developed a crush on Katie Holmes after I saw her in Disturbing Behavior.
SPEAKER_04Was it the scene where she's dancing on the bed? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It wasn't Dawson's Creek. No, I didn't watch Dawson's Creek.
SPEAKER_00I don't want to wait.
SPEAKER_02I was too emo. I watched Disturbing Behavior. There you go.
SPEAKER_00I don't wanna wait.
SPEAKER_02You know the lyrics. Good job. How do you know all the words?
SPEAKER_03Uh you know, I'm a musician. I love I love music.
SPEAKER_02All right, especially that. So that's it for interesting facts, yes. Next up, Wheel of Death. In this, we are gonna spin a wheel and pick our next movie, but before we do that, we gotta stick our hands inside the Frankenstein monster trick-or-treat bag or treat and pick the film to replace Ginger Snap. So I'm gonna give the honors to Lisa. Absolutely. Lisa, you know what I want.
SPEAKER_04I want what I want exactly.
SPEAKER_02She wants high tension.
SPEAKER_04I want high tension, baby.
SPEAKER_02We're not being creeps.
SPEAKER_03Hey, while you're in there, why don't you throw out Itchy? Just happen to throw that shit out. Have you seen Itchy before? Okay. God, I don't want to watch that.
SPEAKER_04I've seen all these damn movies because I'm a loser.
SPEAKER_03No, that's you're awesome. We love Lisa.
SPEAKER_04Okay, uh, what's going to replace the snaps of ginger?
SPEAKER_03The snaps of ginger. Ginger snap too. Oh no.
SPEAKER_04Electric Googaloo. What do we got? Ooh, you would like this one, Matt. It is Tucker and Dale. Oh, Carsus Evil. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Can we just do it now? No.
SPEAKER_04We have to listen to the wheel. It's the name of the game, bro. So, yes, to replace Ginger Snaps is Tucker and Dale versus Evil. This is a comedy horror, and it was from 2011.
SPEAKER_03Alright. Very good. Good job, Lisa.
SPEAKER_04Why, thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02So let us know when you're you're ready to spend so we can do the chant.
SPEAKER_03All right. I need to go through what we have on the list right now.
SPEAKER_02Please read what we got on the list.
SPEAKER_03Alright, so the Wheel of Death still has up for grabs, I guess, or whatever. The uh Cabin in the Wood, Itchy. Itchy. Ichy. The stupid itchy movie. Alright, think of it.
SPEAKER_04Think of it this way. The beer, Ichi bottom. Ichy.
SPEAKER_03Ichy the killer. I'm gonna say it wrong next time, too. So take that. No, we'll we'll fuck it up every time and it'll be fine. High tension. Knight of the Living Dead, Mother, Wolf Cop, Sinister, the newly entered Tucker and Dale vs. Evil.
SPEAKER_00Nasferatu.
SPEAKER_03And Thirst. Yes. Alright. Alright, so here we go. I'm gonna turn my volume up on this wheel.
SPEAKER_02It needs a little bit of a wheel of death. Wheel of death. Wheel of death. Wheel of death. Ooh, we timed that well. Good job, Mr. Perfect.
SPEAKER_03Matt, what do we got? So the wheel has spoken, and what the wheel has said, we need to watch is Mother.
SPEAKER_00Oh god. No.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. I know Shelly wasn't happy about this either. We gotta see where Mother's streaming. Yes, please do. Isn't it Mother with an exclamation point too? Yes, it is.
SPEAKER_04Jennifer Lawrence is in it. Javi R. Dem.
SPEAKER_02I can't say his name. It's crazy. So I'm seeing that it is available on Amazon Prime with uh a subscri with uh your subscription. And that's all I'm seeing. I can s I can check Shudder real quick. I don't think it's on Shudder, though. I'm pretty sure not.
SPEAKER_04I think it might be on Hulu, no?
SPEAKER_02Nope, it's not. So it looks like Amazon's the route to go. You know, it for anyone who pays attention to our social media stuff, if we find it anywhere else, we'll share it up there as well. So alright, guys, our next episode drops July 20th. And then uh make sure you stay with us and tune in to the end of the season where all these movies we watch will be thrown into a March Madness style tournament to determine which movies get cut and which film will be crowned champion of Little Bracket of Horrors. If you listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, please hit the follow button and give us a ratingslash review if you like what we do. You can find us on Facebook by searching Little Bracket of Horrors or on Instagram by typing at Little Bracket of Horrors. Thank you everyone for tuning in. I'm Derek. I'm Matt. And I'm Lisa C. Lisa C. And we will catch you on the other side. Did you like how in the last episode I had the bloopers at the end?
SPEAKER_03Oh, with me and Jamie. Bloopers are fun.
SPEAKER_02That's what I was like, maybe the stuff that I cut out that's like kind of funny, maybe I'll just start throwing it at the end. All right.
SPEAKER_03I like the I do like the family guy where he's like, I'm just gonna sit on the couch and make dad noises.
SPEAKER_02Are you guys ready? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Lisa, when you're ready, go ahead.
SPEAKER_04Do the intro. Alright. Do the intro.
SPEAKER_03Like for her, is it a thing for werewolves to like change their hair color changes? Like her hair went from red to being like this white. Oh, she had streaks and it's a little bit more. Then she started having streaks and stuff, and then it finally just became like this. I don't know if that's I don't know if that's part of the lore. It's just a thing. Whatever. It has nothing to do with anything. Transformation. Sure. Transformation.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Alright, so that takes care of our cons.
SPEAKER_04Well, if it does help you, I mean redheads do turn white, they don't turn gray.
SPEAKER_03Oh. Did not know that. And your redhead.
SPEAKER_04Brownish, red. Brownish. I do have white. I do have.
SPEAKER_03You do have?
SPEAKER_02So do I. Oh no. I got my facial hair. None of my none up here yet on tops. Yeah. Just in the chin. This is a good conversation about hair. None of this will get cut.
SPEAKER_03We're gonna be so pissed. This is all valid stuff we're talking about. It's all about werewolves, man. Yep.
unknownOkay. Why are we whispering? I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I don't know, but it sounds pretty cool. We should do a show where we whisper. Yeah. And then no. We'll we'll get like five listeners for that episode.
SPEAKER_00ASMR. Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, ASMR podcast. That's perfect.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Alright, before any any last words before any of the outro.
SPEAKER_03Can I uh you didn't you didn't ask us, did we have anything? I know because we were introduced. I'm gonna tell you a story and you can you can edit this, get rid of it whatever you want to, but I've been having so I've been having dreams lately.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03The one was about my dad revisiting and uh coming back to one of my gigs. Oh wow, that's weird. And uh he he was there in the crowd, and uh he came over. Was he headbanging? Totally headbanging. No, so he came over and uh and I wasn't even gonna tell this one, but so he came over and I was like, hey dad, how's it going? He was like, I was just coming in to say hi, checking out, how are you doing? It's like you guys are doing really good. So he my dad was always like very awkward at like either hugging or shaking hands or whatever. So I just embraced him and hugged him and I just started crying. Woke up in fucking tears.
SPEAKER_02You should say that her dad has passed away.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, preface it with saying that, yeah. That that's probably an important part.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So, anyways, you're just like your dad showed up and you're next door crying. Yeah, right. Yeah, he passed away. Passed away in 2008.
SPEAKER_03So, yeah, so I woke up like in tears. My wife had to console me and everything. So, anyways, and then um Did she did she rub your uh navel piercing? She rubbed my half thumb. Oh, your half thumb. Yeah, it made me feel better. So no, it's your appendage. So the most recent dream Oh my god, you do have a half thumb.
SPEAKER_04It's so stubby. I'm so sorry. I'm it's been there for a while. For a while. Does it do the job? That's all that matters.
SPEAKER_03Listen, there's cool tricks you can do, you know, more fun stuff. That's cool. You know, with a thumb trick where they pull the you use your you tuck your thumb in between your index and middle finger, and yeah, I can do that now. Nice.
SPEAKER_04You know, I'm I'm gonna quote the League of Their Own. You know, if you put a little line down it, it looks like a penis.
SPEAKER_03You know, it does. I don't even need to put a line.
SPEAKER_04So if there's a oh my god, it does look circumcised.
SPEAKER_03It does. I have a circumcised thumb penis. You gotta make up for some of the I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_04Please continue with your emotional dream.
SPEAKER_03So so this one's actually kind of funny. Yeah. So I had a dream that um that we were all, it was our family, we're all together and stuff, and and Derek and Carrie were sitting there, and Carrie's like, oh yeah, once Derek gets the papers for me, then we'll, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, wait, what? Papers? She's like, oh yeah, we're getting divorced. And I was like, Oh my god. I was like, wait, what? Dude, I was like, it was crazy because I was like, wait, what? She's like, Yeah, yeah, we're getting divorced, and everyone's like, Yeah, they're getting divorced. And I was like, wait, what? I was totally distraught and upset by this news. Like, I was like, wait a second, what are you talking about? Did Melissa have to console you again? No, I did not wake up in tears on this one, but I was like, it was so real, and I was like, and I'm like trying to talk you talk to you and being like, like, wait, did you guys like, is there something you can work out? Like, I was really genuinely like upset and wanted wanted you guys to work this out. Yeah. So that's good. I'm just a weird one.
SPEAKER_04I'm just gonna say this. If you guys divorce, I claim Matt and um Carrie. Oh. Sorry.
SPEAKER_02So I get I get Roger out.
SPEAKER_04Roger gets me. If you want the Jolly Roger, you can't. I will take the Jolly Roger.
SPEAKER_03I will take the Jolly Roger. So, anyways, you can do what you want with that those stories, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, so interesting. Yeah, I was very upset about you and Carrie potentially well, you were getting divorced in my dream set. Probably more upset than your son would be.