Little Bracket of Horrors
A horror movie review podcast that puts the fight in fright. We review a film every other week and at the end of the season we'll have a tournament to see who is the champion in the Little Bracket of Horrors Death-match.
Little Bracket of Horrors
The Cabin in the Woods/ *Ian discusses Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness*
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Welcome to Little Bracket of Horrors. The pod that puts the fight in fright!
In this episode we sacrifice ourselves to the Ancient Ones in Drew Goddard's 2012 film, The Cabin in the Woods. This starts off with your standard horny college kids running off to the woods for some fun. What awaits them is an orgy of monsters, waiting to be unleashed by...Gary and Steve??? Well...that's something new.
So join the LBOH crew as they get this party started with their friends the
Zombie Redneck Torture Family (The Buckner's) and of course, Merman.
*stick around until the end to hear Derek interview his son on what he considers his first scary movie, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.
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Welcome back, everyone. I'm Derek. I'm Shelly. And we got I'm John Lee. John, it's covered for Matt today. Could not make it in, but uh we we got a very special guest, a good friend of Shelly's. So uh let's uh let's kick this off and get to know John a little bit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So uh John, tell us a little bit about yourself. Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm John Lee, co-owner of Bad Moon FX. We are a costume and prop company based out of Florida and also an all-around horror snob.
SPEAKER_01Love it.
SPEAKER_02Awesome.
SPEAKER_01Then you're perfect. Yes. You're gonna fit in just well here. Glad to be here.
SPEAKER_05Perfect puzzle piece to fill in for Matt for sure. We've had people cover before, and I've just asked like general, like, you know, questions to get to know you, like your horror history. Oh, good. So I'm gonna throw some random ones at you. Perfect. Let's go. Great. So uh what was the first horror movie you remember watching as a kid? Children shouldn't play with dead things.
SPEAKER_01I've never even heard of this.
SPEAKER_05I was gonna say the same thing. I've never heard of it, so please do tell us.
SPEAKER_02Oh god. So Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things is by the same director who did the original Black Christmas and uh my least favorite Christmas movie, uh A Christmas Story.
SPEAKER_01Oh, those are the same directors?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, right across the ground. Yeah, he hated Christmas. He hated Christmas, so he did Black Xmas right after doing a Christmas story.
SPEAKER_01Which is like a quintessential Christmas movie these days. But it's all about the kid and like hating his family. And I don't know, if you really look at Christmas story.
SPEAKER_05I used to love Christmas Story and then hanging with my wife's family, they had it on all day through Christmas Eve. And I was like, fuck this movie. That's why I never watch it again. I'm done.
SPEAKER_02I'm done with it. Yeah. So my earliest horror movie memory, Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things, terrified with the crap out of my life.
SPEAKER_05I know it's it's on my list now too. Children shouldn't play with dead things. I have it on VHS if you Ooh, VHS. Classic. I'm the DVD guy, so now we got a VHS guy. There you go. I love it. That's do you do you have a uh VHS player still that works? Three. Oh.
SPEAKER_02So if you need to borrow one, I'm pretty sure.
SPEAKER_05So we're covered. I love that.
SPEAKER_02So how about what's your favorite horror film? Ooh, so my favorite horror movie and entire franchise all at the same time is gonna always be Scream.
SPEAKER_01This is a Scream House. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh I'm a I'm a recent uh Scream fan.
SPEAKER_05My my wife has been a Scream fan forever, but I didn't uh I didn't get the bite until I'd say last year. I've seen the original. I was like, okay, that's fine. But uh I I got into it and Jamie Kennedy's character I I absolutely loved. And I was like, you know what? This is a fantastic franchise. Uh let's see. Uh here's a funny one. Have you ever said Bloody Mary in front of the mirror?
SPEAKER_02Yes, but I won't do Candyman.
SPEAKER_05Okay. What was your experience like with uh Bloody Mary? And like what age?
SPEAKER_02Was that like a sleepover at like 12? And I think my best friend's father started screaming and bounding on the door outside the bathroom, so I just shit myself. So I'll never do it again.
SPEAKER_05I'll never do it again. Yes, that is that is terrible. You gotta scare them a little bit so they know for next time. Don't don't mess with the bloody Mary. So that's uh that's hilarious. But all right, so what's the scariest thing that's ever happened to you? Any ghost stories, any near-death experiences?
SPEAKER_02Well, I've been electrocuted twice. Shocker? Oh yeah, no, I used to be terrified of my grandma's house. She had a weird corner that was had uh every grandmother has dolls, right? Like every grandmother has porcelain dolls that were always light up. Like the way the street light came in through the window, they seemed to glow at night. And she every morning when you'd wake up, how'd you sleep? Terrible. You you have a room full of haunted dolls. But basically, I think that would be the only thing that's ever been like truly terrifying.
SPEAKER_05Waiting for that doll to just be like turning into and they just have those eyes that never leave you too like those like those. They follow you, yeah, they follow you. Those creepy paintings, and they're just like you can't get away from the the dolls, have that magic inside them too, where it's just always creepy, terrifying. Yeah. Alright. How about this? If you had to be stuck in a horror movie, which one would you choose and why?
SPEAKER_02Oh, a nightmare on Elm Street. Okay, great. Yeah, I feel like it would be at least like maybe in the later franchise, let's do Freddy's Dead. Like, let's go the last nightmare on Elm Street where it was just campy. There's a good chance my death scene is going to be a lot of fun. Yeah. I like it.
SPEAKER_01And I like how you I know when we picked, we were kind of like, How could we survive? Yes. What form of you to survive in? And you're like, if I'm gonna die, I'm dying in a good one.
SPEAKER_02I'm chubby, I have asthma, I smoke too much pot. Like, I'm not gonna outrun them and I'm not gonna outthink them. So, which is the way that's gonna honestly hurt the least? Like, Jason's gonna brutalize me. I don't want to be a part of that. Yeah, I don't want to be a part of Scream because I'm gonna know the killer, it's gonna be sad. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, true, true. Yeah, because it's always someone.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's always someone, you know.
SPEAKER_05Yep. That's a that's an interesting way to think of that, to to respond to that question. Yeah. And that's you know, something I didn't think about. I was like, how am I gonna survive? But no, like, what's a good kill? Yes, I mean, why else are you in a horror film but to get killed and be cool killed in a great way? So awesome. Let's find one more question and then we'll move on to the cabin in the woods. All right, how about this? Another fun one. Would you rather be bitten by a vampire, zombie, or werewolf?
SPEAKER_02Ooh. Okay, so all three have their benefits. Uh-huh. I think zombie's the least good because you're gonna die and you're gonna be all gross. Werewolf, it's it's just it's Florida, it's a body hair issue. I don't want to be a part of that. Vampires are extremely like portrayed as extremely erotic, which sounds great. Yeah. Uh let's go with vampire. Vampire?
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Vampires. Uh I think I'm werewolf. I was werewolf too, I think, because we said once a month. We could manage it. We could manage it. Very manageable. Yeah. Fair. Um, but I think Matt said vampire as well because he wanted to be a sexy vampire.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, his whole thing was to be in like an erotic vampire. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's great. Yeah, I just want to be like glistening at all times, even when it's not supposed to be glistening. Like uh, what was what's that teenage movie? Twilight? Twilight. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking less glitter, more like Astroglide, but it's fine.
SPEAKER_05That's a different Twilight movie.
SPEAKER_01I haven't seen that one yet.
SPEAKER_05Covered in a sheen of Astroglide. All right, guys, are we ready to get into the cabin in the woods? Yes, let's do this. All right, we landed on it last week. Typically, uh, do you have a history with this movie shell?
SPEAKER_01I do. I've seen it several times. Um, I know Matt, it would have been his first viewing. I'm sure, John, you've seen this movie a few times before.
SPEAKER_02I saw this in theaters two or three times. I saw it in the theaters two or three times.
SPEAKER_01I'm pretty sure I went and saw it in the theaters too, because it looked just like it was the previews. You were like, what is what are they doing? What is this gonna be?
SPEAKER_02It was like it was billed as like the horror fans horror movie. Like if you love horror, you will love this. And I was like, done, let's go. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I did not catch it in the theaters, but just on the hype alone, when it came out on DVD, I I just bought it on DVD. I didn't run it. I was like, I'm just buying the movie, and yeah, it was amazing. The layers that come into it. It was just it was a fantastic film, and I was excited for all of us to get to talk to it because I know it's it's gonna be a great film. All right, guys, let's move on to our segment called Dig Up the Bones. And this, typically Matt will go through and just introduce the movie, but Matt's out, so I'm gonna take the reins and dig up the bones for The Cabin in the Woods. The Cabin in the Woods is a 2012 horror film directed by Drew Goodard. The film was written by Goodard and Joss Whedon, uh, whom both worked together on the TV series Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Uh originally slated for release in February of 2010, it was shelved by MGM and United Artists due to financial difficulties. In 2011, Lionsgate picked up the distribution rights and premiered it at the But Numathon Film Festival in Austin, Texas. The theatrical release in the United States was the following April of 2012. Filming took place in Vancouver, British Columbia on an estimated budget of thirty million, and after its worldwide release, it grossed over seventy million dollars. Our film is starring Chris Hemsworth, who you might know some from some Marvel films, uh as Kurt Vaughn, the athlete archetype. And then we have Kristen Conley as Dana Polk, our virgin slash final girl. Then we have Anna Hutchinson as Jules Loden, the whore. That was a really hard horror.
SPEAKER_02It was real aggressive on the card. It was some opinion tackle.
SPEAKER_05Some weird white guy energy. And then we had Franz Cran Fran Crans. That guy's name is funky. Fran Crans. Fran Crans as Marty McCulski, our fool, Jesse Williams as Holden McCree, our scholar, and then Richard Jenkins, who was the dad from uh Step Brothers, as Gary Sidderson, one of the main two like faculty engineers, and then Bradley Whipford, who I know as the evil dude from Billy Madison.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I know him from the West Wing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Most everyone's like, oh, the West Wing guy. I'm like, no, he was that guy from Billy Madison. But uh he plays Steve Hadley, the other faculty engineer. Our film starts off with our five soon-to-be victims, Kurt, Dana, Jules, Marty, and Holden, heading out for a weekend to Kurt's cousin's new cabin in the woods to have some stress-free alone time and get away from it all. The only problem is they aren't alone. Below the surface lies a dubious laboratory where our engineers, Gary and Steve, act as puppet masters for a mysterious and ancient ritual. Bets are placed and scenarios are set, and now it's up to our group of friends to fall victim to their tropes.
SPEAKER_01Dun dun dun Dun dun dun.
SPEAKER_05So guys, let's uh let's just get into the meat of this and get into feasting fiends. And this we discuss the blow topics of overall pros, overall cons in the movie, favorite lines, most enjoyable, most annoying character, and then we finish it off with our favorite kills slash scares. So pros. Shelly, what do you got for your pros? Yeah, let's do this.
SPEAKER_01Definitely like the special effects makeup, all the creatures. I just love how they were a part of like the huge twist, which I won't go too much into. But they're great creatures. You gotta give it up to David Anderson and his team and Heather Langkamp, who often who worked on the makeup on this film too. And just like the overall aspect of the creatures, like when they all came out and started just killing, it was my one of my favorite parts of the scene or the movie. Uh the acting, I just think it's a unique script and screenplay, and I thought the actors did pretty well at it, you know, compared to some of the other movies that we've watched. You know, this would be up there with as far as acting-wise go. I mean, it's a little campy, but like I think it's done well campy. Yeah, I don't know. And then um the stoner, Marty, yeah. Yeah, I give it up for him. Like the fact that he had his head on the straightest, all while high most of the time.
SPEAKER_05So high.
SPEAKER_01So high the whole time.
SPEAKER_05I don't think he ever stopped until he got attacked. Yeah, yeah. But up until that point, he he was straight blazing through the whole film.
SPEAKER_01But he was like made the most sense. And I just love like his little quips, and like, you know, he'd be like, I draw the line at reading the Latin. Don't read the Latin.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01And then like he heard the voice, nobody else didn't, and she's like, read the Latin.
SPEAKER_05And he was like, Whoa. I laughed so hard. We watched, so we used Shelly spent the night last night, and uh we watched it again.
SPEAKER_01Totally PC spent the night, guys. I'm just throwing that out there.
SPEAKER_05Everyone was on opposite sides of the room, that's how we operate. But uh, I was just I was dying at that part when they're in the in the basement, and uh it was like, read the Latin. And I was I was dying. So many things in this movie to laugh about. So those are my pros. Yeah, that's great. What about you, John? What do you got?
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah, I think this is thanks to Josh Whedon for better or worse for wherever he is. It's one of the most expertly funny dialogue-heavy movies I've seen in a long time. And I don't think it can be beat. And it's specifically because Joss Whedon's writing style lends itself so well to the genre. Yeah. Uh the whole thing feels like this glorious send-up of starting out with, of course, the slasher genre and then moving itself through without without spoiling anything, moving itself through. It's it's a phenomenally written movie. The special effects, the creature effects are all amazing. So many of them were done.
SPEAKER_01Uh are you trying to say like practical effects? Practical. Yeah. Yeah, the creature effects, the no like special effects or green screen or anything like that. There was like actual laid making.
SPEAKER_02Which was amazing.
SPEAKER_01I like it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01The Goddard and Joss wrote it in like three days, too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Thank God for cocaine.
SPEAKER_01Can you believe it? Can you believe it? Like, and it's such a well dialogued movie.
SPEAKER_05So heavy dialogue. That's like their background. Like, if you're working on Buffy and Angel, like that's heavy dialogue. That's a lot of characters like coming and going. So, like, that's their like that's what they do. So it makes sense. Like, you know, you hit the nail on the head when you talked about the dialogue, because all the lines in this, and there's tons of like when we get to favorite lines, like we could go for an hour. Oh gosh, just a favorite lines. There's there's so many lines, there's and there's like there's lines with meaning, and then there's lines which just like you're just straight funny and like little quips, but yeah, the dialogue was was fantastic, perfectly written.
SPEAKER_01I it's hard in a horror movie, and that's only like what an hour and 40 minutes. I don't know how long this movie was.
SPEAKER_0292 minutes.
SPEAKER_0192 minutes, hour and a half to get such character development. You knew who everybody was and who they were gonna be.
SPEAKER_02I can't wait to talk about the cons because that's one of my cons. Oh, cool. I agree. You knew who every character was very quickly in a very short amount of time. Yeah, which is thanks to the writers. They they did their job well.
SPEAKER_01Right. What about you, Derek?
SPEAKER_05All right, so for pros, I just said, you know, it was a great premise for a horror film. Started off just this movie about the kids going to a cabin, and you're like, oh, it's just another one of those films, but then there was just those added layers of oh, there's there's a sinister thing behind all this, and then below that, there's like an even bigger reason. So I thought that was great. And then with the character development, I liked how you know they were all filling these like tropes and like archetypes for like horror films, but they show that they're like so much more than like you know, uh Kurt wasn't just a dumb jock, he was a sociology major, and Marty, the Stoner guy, was like the sharpest one in the bunch, and he was the one who had his head on the most. And so I love that these characters were much more complex than just like the simple, like, this is the role you're filling. So I love that a lot, and that is my pros. I like it. Shelly, you want to do cons again? Yeah, I can kick it off. Let's do the cons.
SPEAKER_01Um, I would want more of the creatures. I'm not I don't want to go in too much, but there is this huge scene at the end, and I would have loved to know more about the creatures that are now doing what they're doing. Like I said, I want to do too much. I'd also like to know what each creature's artifact was.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that would have been great.
SPEAKER_01There's so many creatures. I mean, talking at one point, I think we have hundreds of creatures at one point, right?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I would say in the hundreds, I believe where are all their artifacts and what do each one have? Like the three white masked people, what would their artifact be?
SPEAKER_05What so were those were those people they're they're kind of like purge looking purge or the stranger? Strangers or strangers, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So like what would their artifact was?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, if we could have a big thing.
SPEAKER_01He had his little his little puzzle ball. You know, and obviously the ballerina was the music box. Like you you could figure out the ones you saw and you knew whose artifact was what.
SPEAKER_05Don't don't you dare forget about the conch.
SPEAKER_01The conch merman.
SPEAKER_05The conch and the don't you ever forget about the conch.
SPEAKER_01But I would like to know there's so many other creatures. What would their artifact be? So like I'm that person would that would want to find all that out. Um, they never address how Kurt can magically ride a dirt bike.
SPEAKER_05Is his magic dirt bike?
SPEAKER_01Well, not so magic. Yeah, yeah. Um, but like he's got this bike hooked up to the bark back of the RV, and then he ends up taking it off the RV and tries to like jump the ravine to save everybody and obviously doesn't make it.
SPEAKER_02Do you have to know how to ride it? I've never ridden a dirt bike.
SPEAKER_01I you can't just jump on a dirt bike.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's I think there's like a clutch and stuff.
SPEAKER_05I have never ridden a dirt bike.
SPEAKER_01It's like driving a stick. Yeah, I can drive a stick. Okay, so it's like that. You could probably drive a dirt bike.
SPEAKER_05I've never I I feel like I could. I think I think the throttle is like the left hand, right?
SPEAKER_01But no one's like, at no point was someone like you know, curtain his like dirt bike days or anything like that. Like it was never addressed. He just got the bike off and he's like, this is nothing compared to what I've jumped before.
SPEAKER_05And I'm like, so you're just like an expert dirt bike writer, and we're not he's the Travis Pastrana of uh jumping gorges. Not so successful this time, right?
SPEAKER_01Right, exactly. Um, and I had an issue with how dark some of the scenes were. Um I think some horror movies inherently are dark like that, but like when I can adjust my phone to like the brightest bright, and I still can't see the scene. Like, I feel like there was an issue with choices on the filming. And the first kill we get is in this sex scene in the dark woods, and you almost couldn't see the killers. I couldn't make out the zombies at times when it was too dark.
SPEAKER_05The whole Buckner family, like, whenever so they attacked Jules and uh Kurt outside, it was way too dark for us to see. Like, and I want to see that how they looked, yeah.
SPEAKER_01They're like they're rednecks, but besides you telling me rednecks, I probably couldn't figure it out. Except the one girl that was clearly in a dress limping around at one point. So those are my cons. Just make it brighter.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we want to see the ghouls. I want to see the makeup, we want to see the ghouls.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, John, what about you? Uh yeah, I think let's talk about the zombie family. I think the choice of a zombie family was extremely redundant in a movie where they're trying to like play with convention. There were so many better monsters that we see later that would have been more interesting. You the the Merman, you I don't think you can carry a film on a merman.
SPEAKER_01And I get why it's would have been hard to get all the kills with just one. Just one just flopping around.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. But there were others. There was the Purge guys, there was the Hellraiser guys that I think would have made a more interesting, engaging story. Uh when this came out, we were going through like this weird renaissance of zombie films.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. True.
SPEAKER_02And I think by the time this one came out, I know I was exhausted with zombie films. And re-watching it recently, I I was exhausted still. I also was a little weirded out by uh the choice to open it the way they did. They they advertised it as Cabin in the Woods, a cabin in the woods with these kids. And then you go see this movie, and it's distractingly weird that you're opening on like an underground bunker and you're moving through these things, and then switching stories. I think they gave away the hand way too early in this film. And my last one is a little heavier, but Josh Whedon is an abuser, and it's hard to watch this film years later, knowing how bad he is to people and what he put his actors through, and still finding this movie funny a decade later.
SPEAKER_01I didn't and I didn't think of it that way when I watched it. I guess it's all in how the perspective.
SPEAKER_02And the only reason I think of it is because you can't help but think of Joss when you hear the dialogue. You know it's his if you're a Buffy fan, if you're if you're a fan of any of the work he's done. And so every time you hear a funny line, you're like, ha ha ha. Oh yeah, you're a piece of shit.
SPEAKER_05That's tough. When when the curtain is pulled back and you know, like some of these dudes are monsters, like the guy who did Jeepers Creepers. Oh, he's the absolute worst garbage person. But Jeepers Creepers is a great film, but you're just like you're conflicted when you watch it because you know he's a garbage dude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So I I totally understand that.
SPEAKER_01We can talk about the Harry Potter books all day long when it comes to things like that. Like, I'm a huge Harry Potter fan. It's hard for me to like really love them now. When people decide to be trash.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Trash people are trash people.
SPEAKER_01And they're so like, what's the word? They're geniuses.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It's a double-edged sword with his work because you want to love what is clearly an expertly written film. And it's one of the funniest films in the in in the horror comedy genre. And I I'd recommend anybody see it. But then also like, maybe don't, because he doesn't need to make more money off y'all.
SPEAKER_05Right. I'll jump in with my cons. The ending, I was cool with the ending on its own, but there was some character decisions in the end that didn't make sense to me. And I'll just leave it at that. We'll talk about it later. Uh like I had some nitpick stuff, like like with you, I talked about the darkness, and then uh with talked about the layers being revealed too soon. I I would have enjoyed if we would have found out, like, you know, a quarter way into the film that maybe when they've read the artifact.
SPEAKER_01Like they go into the basement, they've released this zombie family. Now we cut to the underground bunker and they're like, all right, we're going. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02You should have picked up with the betting scene. It would have because they they do it, and then you get to see, like, oh, here's this list, and there's something bigger happening. Yeah. And you still could have kept some of the other stuff. You could have kept the man on the rooftop. You could have kept the harbinger being a weirdo. Yeah. But it would have made them more surprising unless I'm watching Evil Dead.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I will say, you know, on the third, fourth, fifth, however many times I've watched this movie, that opening scene to me, I love it now. Oh, yeah. But as if I was a first-time watcher, I'd be like, what the hell?
SPEAKER_05I saw something about the idea with that was they wanted people to think they stepped into the wrong movie. They were like, what the hell is this? We're waiting for kids to get ready and go in a cabin. Yeah. And then, you know, the cabin wood flashes up in red letters. I also saw somewhere where that was a nod to Did you have you ever seen the movie Funny Games? Yes. I read online that that was a nod to funny games, but I couldn't find where Joss or Drew said anything about that specifically. But it matches up, sort of. So that's cool. And that that movie's that movie's fun.
SPEAKER_02So I love this idea of the writers being like, after our people spend $40 to get into theater, sit through the previews, get comfy with their snacks and their drink, we're gonna immediately put the panic of, Am I in the right theater? Should I leave? That's the great way to settle them in for an hour and a half romp.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's uh a sly little move on their part. But go ahead.
SPEAKER_01Now, didn't Matt have a couple pros and cons? Did he have anything that was different than us?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, let's let's uh Matt sent us some notes. Matt, like the storyline like us, he equated it to like a Truman show. He wished there was more of the zombie family. Yeah, more of the Buckners. So that was like us. There you are. Matt, you're caught up. You're welcome. Because I fucking forgot. Alright, guys, let's go to favorite lines. This is gonna be fun. Uh Shelly.
SPEAKER_01So many.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, please.
SPEAKER_01I almost picked like one of the like pungent ones, but I laugh so hard at the scene where Mordecai the Harbinger calls. He calls the guy's like, dude, the harbinger's on the phone. It's being really pushy. Can you just talk to him? And so the two technicians, our main technicians, bring him on speakerphone and he's chalking like they've they've flown the coop, they're in the nest, you know, using like biblical termage. But at one point he goes, Mordecai says, Cleanse them, cleanse the world of their ignorance, ignorance and sin. Bathe them in the crimson of am I on speaker phone? And the one tech goes, Hadley goes, No, absolutely not. Speakerphone, no, no, I wouldn't do that. Mordecai, yes, I I am. I I can hear the echo. And Hadley goes, Oh my god, you're you're right. Hang on a second, I'll take you off. He then at that point doesn't take him off. Uh-huh. And he goes, That's rude. I don't know who's in the room. And then he continues his like, he goes on to be more of a creepy harbinger type of guy. And the whole room starts laughing, and he just like hangs up on him at that point. It's it's a great little comedic scene, and I loved it in the middle of like you do have this harbinger who sets the scene for these kids, and they, you know, they have to decide if even after seeing this guy who's literally like, You're gonna die, do they continue on?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And he calls and he's upset that he's on speakerphone with the rest of the bunker. I thought it was great.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was it was hilarious. It's it's it's hard not to laugh at that scene. What about you, John?
SPEAKER_02Uh so the director shows up and it's it's Sigourney Weaver, which was weird because she was doing a tour of films at that point. I think she had done like Paul, and she had been a she had been a guest star in a bunch of films, and she's doing her huge dialogue about why this is happening to these kids and the jock and the scholar, the fool, why they all have to die. And she points at the character and she says, and the virgin, and the girl says, Me, virgin, the director responds with, We work with what we have, which I laughed hysterically. I think that's one of the funnier lines in it, because it absolutely sets the tone of this is this is all made up and forced, and technically none of this works, yeah, unless we we play this heavy hand into it with the engineers and all the work, and it it truly made it more impactful to see what the engineers had been doing the whole time.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah. I said, and and this is a line that popped up a couple times in the film, and it was let's get this party started. Uh it was said three times. The first and second time were back to back when the suit and tie guys uh blit just placed their bets, and then it cut right after it cut to Kurt pouring himself a beer and getting ready to party in in the uh cabin. But then Dana also said it when her and uh Marty got trapped and they went to release all the monsters in the lobby, the like elevator death lobby, and uh she she said uh let's get this party started and hit the release button and all the ghouls and the molesting tree and all that shit popped out and just took those dudes out. But I loved how uh how that line was just in there a couple times and uh you know was a was a different thing for each time. Matt had the same line as you, Shelly.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05Perfect. So Matt and Shelly, two P's in a pod. All right, let's go to most enjoyable characters. Let's go, John. John, what's your most enjoyable character?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I loved Marty the fool. Yeah. Just from start to finish, any scene he was in was automatically better.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I had the same, you know, I said a little bit earlier, but you know, he was set up to be the stoner guy. And typically, like a lot of movies I watch where there's a stoner character, they're fucking annoying, they're not funny, and he was funny and witty, and he was amazing. And I I loved Marty. So Shelly.
SPEAKER_01They took his character development really seriously too. Like they taught him how to roll a joint, and they taught him like he actually was high on the set because they were like, You got the job, but like, how comfortable are you with doing all this?
SPEAKER_02That's some Snoop Dogg shit. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like we were watching a little bit of behind the scenes last night, and he's smoking a joint before one of the scenes.
SPEAKER_02Which works because he's he's truly a good actor. And then applying, like, hey, I have to be a stoner while I have to be stoned is such a great way to do it. Faking being stoned is is the worst.
SPEAKER_01And I'm just gonna drop a fun fact about him too. Yeah, do it really quick since we're on him and it's both of your favorite characters. He also apparently was more fit than Hemsworth and the other guy. So they made a choice when he went down to the lake that he had to keep his shirt on because then he would look more buff than the other two guys. Yeah, yeah. So he's apparently ripped.
SPEAKER_05They said they said he was a shredded Jesus.
SPEAKER_02Are you looking up a picture? I'm gonna have to. Let's do it. Yeah, because I've looked up a lot of photos of people, but Francrans shirt.
SPEAKER_01Shirtless. Yeah. There's it's gotta be out there, right?
SPEAKER_02Images. Jesus Christ. Exactly. He shredded Jesus.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. So they were like, he has to keep a shirt on or he's gonna look better. Because Chris Emsworth was puny in this movie. It's pre-Thor.
SPEAKER_02Pre-Thor, yeah. Yeah, he had filmed Thor had come out, right?
SPEAKER_01But this was before this was yes, but they filmed this before Thor was filmed.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it just took forever because of the studio with the financial stuff, so it came out like a year or two after Thor.
SPEAKER_02It probably got it because of Chris Emsworth as well. But yeah, he did get the stuff because, yeah, because I mean it only got released because he became so popular. Yeah, he was very small in this film.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then Jesse Williams.
SPEAKER_01I mean, he had abs, but that was it.
SPEAKER_02They all have abs.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But his arms, oh, everything.
SPEAKER_02The zombies had abs. It's too many abs.
SPEAKER_05It's the abs in the woods.
unknownThe abs in the woods.
SPEAKER_01I like it.
SPEAKER_05I'm here for it. All day. Guys, uh, Matt said Marty too.
SPEAKER_01I'm the only one who didn't.
SPEAKER_05Oh shit. Who did you choose?
SPEAKER_01I said Sidderson and Hadley, the two engineers.
SPEAKER_05They were great. Yeah. I love them.
SPEAKER_01I just like the they're the protagonists in the movie, obviously. They're the ones that, you know, when you're rooting for everybody to live, they're rooting for them to die. And I just like what they bring as far as like they take their job seriously, but not seriously. And, you know, the one guy is getting really death. You know, at one point, um, the the guy from the West Wing, what's his name?
SPEAKER_05Uh, that's uh Hadley. Hadley that's a character Hadley, but it's Bradley Whitford.
SPEAKER_01Bradley Woodford, who plays Hadley. Yeah. He's sitting there, he's like, It's funny. I'm rooting for her. I'd like her to live. Like, I can't help but the root for this girl. And he's mid-sentence and he goes, And I love to kill him! Like, I just think I just love them. So they were my favorite, and then I have to write down Chris Hensworth because he's my husband.
SPEAKER_05Oh, the the the hubby.
SPEAKER_01Although I don't like think he's the greatest, greatest, but I can't not recognize him. I've touched him, so oh that's right.
SPEAKER_02I've seen I've seen a picture. I had seen a picture. Was he aware you were touching? Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01He was fully aware. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, sometimes people aren't, but he was for clarification.
SPEAKER_05He was aware. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Arm around the shoulder, he touched me. It was it was mutual. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Was he as big as he looks?
SPEAKER_01Uh at that point, uh, yeah, he was uh he had the short hair going on, which I prefer.
SPEAKER_05Was this Ghostbusters period? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Kevin. Which I love. I love stupid Kevin from Ghostbusters.
SPEAKER_05So we all said Marty, except for you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Let's go. Least favorite character.
SPEAKER_01I didn't like the Buckners.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_01If I'm gonna pick characters I didn't like, because all the kids, like, they did their job. You know, they were all their role. The Buckners, like, fuck them. I don't know. I didn't like the Buckners.
SPEAKER_05Nice.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna give the Buckners. I also couldn't see them half the time. So who are you? What are you doing in this movie? I can't see you on my screen.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was just far too dark and too much shit in their faces. We couldn't see them. What about you, John?
SPEAKER_02I chose Holden, Jesse Williams. Okay. And it was only because they had made it clear that like all these kids are smart, they're all attractive, they're all talented, they're all fit, they're all they're all everything. That it felt like Holden was redundant by that point. He wasn't smarter than any of the characters. He wasn't fitter. Clearly, there's another guy with more abs.
SPEAKER_05He did put glasses on at one point.
SPEAKER_02So because he had to be the scholar, they had to make him into this bookworm. But like the main characters are reading like Dostoyevsky, like what was the Russian or something like that in the beginning. Yeah. And yeah, and they're they're talking about like space science. I don't I don't know anything.
SPEAKER_05What was it, sociology or whatever? Sociology major. Yeah, yeah. And uh Marty was reading what was it, Little Nemo? Yeah. Before he went for a walk outside. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02They were all brilliant. So to have a character be the scholar who might not have been the smartest character. He wasn't the strong. It just felt redundant. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, they work with what they got.
SPEAKER_02Damn it. We can always go back to the they work with what they got.
SPEAKER_05Damn.
SPEAKER_02My words come back to haunt me again.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. So I was struggling with most annoying character.
SPEAKER_01You liked it overall.
SPEAKER_05Overall, yeah. It was just, and I was trying to find anything, and that's really that's a great point about Holden, because like out of everyone, like he gave us the least. And I could see cheating and jumping on and saying, Yeah, that's it, that's mine. But uh, yeah, I just struggled so hard because like I just thought they did such a good job with with the character development and dialogue, and I was like, Who do I hate?
SPEAKER_01I don't know who I was gonna give an honorable mention, yeah, like you know, I usually use colors like red for hate, green, love, yellow for mid-grade, was the security guy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01No added value.
SPEAKER_02Yeah none. Yeah, that's true. He was just there to he was there as like the skeptic audience member who gets to like the everyday human. Yes, that they get to explain stuff to because he he just got hired in, right? Like that was like his first.
SPEAKER_01And you hire a new security guy the day of the reckoning, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Right, when you have to make this kid watch a people murder children, and you're betting on it, and there's mystical beings, and he's like, Yeah, I feel like I feel like he shouldn't be day two. Yeah, there's a lot of they could have used the intern.
SPEAKER_01They had this great little intern comedic relief. If they wanted to explain someone, Rodney the intern again.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, right, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, if they wanted to explain it to someone, you had the intern.
SPEAKER_02He felt so underused too.
SPEAKER_05That actor is so good.
SPEAKER_01I have a fun fact for I'm gonna touch on a fun fact about him.
SPEAKER_05Oh great, yeah. So I just struggled. We'll we'll see what we'll see what uh Matt had to say. So Matt said uh Steve Hadley, only because he had to pick someone, but uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, he didn't like one of the engineers.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I thought I he was like my top three characters. Yeah, and that's Bradley Whiffer. Yeah, Bradley Whifford. So okay, we'll take it. All right, guys, let's go on to favorite kills slash scares.
SPEAKER_01So many.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01There's uh one scare that got carry every time we watched it was um I'll I'll just jump in real quick.
SPEAKER_05So it was Marty was hanging out in his room, and he he heard the voice of saying, you know, go for a walk. Go for a walk. And he was like, I'm in charge of my own brain. No one tells me what to do, and he's like, I'm gonna go for a walk, which was hilarious. So he's outside, and you know, on his back left shoulder, you see the Buckner girl like sneaking up on him, and then all of a sudden Kurt runs into him. And my wife, I she's been jump scared before, and it's always fun and enjoyable. But uh, the first time we watched it this week, she almost fell off the couch. And typically I'm like, I laugh, but this time I felt terrible, and I just like rubbed her arm and was like, Are you okay? She's like, I'm fine, I'm fine. But uh now it's funny, but at the time I was just like, Holy shit, that really got her good. Yeah, so I enjoyed that. Good jump scare. Yeah, so I had to scare in a kill. Uh my favorite kill was the fucking unicorn, just impaling the dude. Fucking love that love it so much. It's such a happy, you know, mystical creature, and it's just impaling this dude. So I was like, that's fucking rad.
SPEAKER_01There were so many kills to choose from, so many. And that's why I I I could have used more of the creatures. Because at the end they're all doing like their own thing. I want to see more of that. Like, you can make a whole like put it on the DVD bonus and just give me those whole scenes. Yeah, give me those whole scenes.
SPEAKER_05I wonder if the reason we didn't get as much is because the MGM had issues. Maybe because this was all made and then Lionsgate picked it up.
SPEAKER_02So this is not good-off or a sequel.
SPEAKER_05I know we could we could have done a prequel. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, like how we started, yeah. The origination, how you did some good.
SPEAKER_05That's the thing too, because it was worldwide. Yep. We saw that Japan drop the ball, and uh, you know, we we could have got all of those too, so that would have been great. It yeah, missed opportunity.
SPEAKER_01So my favorite kill was the merman. Oh, yeah, just because of the overall story arc on it, and like um Bradley Whitford's character the whole time, all he wanted to do was see a merman once in his life.
SPEAKER_05Poetic justice.
SPEAKER_01And Kurt at one point had the conch in his hand, was about to put his mouth and blow. Um, and he doesn't. And Bradley gets upset, and in the end, out of the smoke, like a like a little mermaid herself, comes a merman that is just disturbing looking. Yeah, like the face is not anything you thought. Like every time you hear merman, you think like half guy, half fish.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was very deep sea diver.
SPEAKER_01Very like this is the depths of the sea you can't see.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And just him getting mauled by that merman. And then it spouting blood like a dolphin out of its back.
SPEAKER_02It was beautiful. Yeah. I I love this idea that that could have been the killer of the entire thing in a cabin in the woods. Yeah. It doesn't work, but I would have loved to see what that could have been.
SPEAKER_05Somehow.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Somewhere. I think. Okay, so let's talk like kill and jump scare. I yeah. I think my favorite kill was Jules. It was the first one out the gate, and it was just so brutal. It was you knew something was gonna happen, but it was shocking from the stab in the hand all the way through the decapitation, and it changed the tone of the movie. It had been so funny, and it wasn't a horror film still at that point. It was still just a straight comedy set in a horror environment, and this is the first time that the film actually showed what it was gonna be doing, and I thought it was brilliant. I think my favorite like kill though, not just like jump scary kill, was the whole elevator scene with the monsters. Oh, yeah. That ding, and they all come running out, and just the blood and gore and viscera. So good.
SPEAKER_01It was a haunted house at Horror Nights a few years back. Did you get to go through it?
SPEAKER_02I did, and so my super brave partner was in front of me, and you walk into the room, and there's the wall of elevators on both sides, and it dings, and the doors all open, and a bunch of people come out at you. Yeah, and he somehow, he's taller than I am, he's like six four. He managed to compress himself into like a ball, like Sonic the Hedgehog, and duckwalk his way out of the house and left me.
SPEAKER_01Oh no.
SPEAKER_02And just left.
SPEAKER_01Oh no. I mean, you it was so good. See that movie, and then go to that horror that haunted house at Halloween Horror Nights, and you turn the corner into that stark white room, and you see like the dead body in the corner, like a pile of blood and guts, and you're like, Oh shit. Yeah, and and you and you start to think, am I gonna get that ding?
SPEAKER_02Oh, that ding was terrifying.
SPEAKER_01And then it does, and you're like, Oh it's about to go off. Oh gosh, it was so good.
SPEAKER_02It was a good house.
SPEAKER_01And until you get this party started, right? One of the best, yeah. Let's get the party. It was a really good scene in the movie just to see all these creatures now be released on the people who've used them all these years, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_05So did Matt have a very No, Matt was a merman too. Oh gosh, Matt. Two P's in a pod. Buddy again, again.
SPEAKER_01You're my best friend. Doo doo doo.
SPEAKER_05Alright, let's get into our final cut. In this, I reveal the shocking ending of the film, and we discuss and give our ratings of one to five stabs. One stab, atrocious, no redeeming value, waste of time. Two stabs, bad, forgettable, poorly done, three stabs, mixed feelings, mediocre, okay. Four stabs, good, interesting, enjoyable, and then our ultimate five stabs, masterpiece, excellent, perfect.
SPEAKER_01So now's your time to fast forward uh looking at the paper, maybe like a minute or two.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And uh that way, if you want to watch this movie, which I ha like like John mentioned, watch it at least once, take it at face value. But I think every it's a good horror, it's a good starter horror movie. There's only one boobies. So you could ideally show this to a teenager.
SPEAKER_02On a rating scale, it's it's a one booby.
SPEAKER_01It's a one booby scale.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Minimal boobage.
SPEAKER_02Minimal boobage. So like I think a kid could watch it.
SPEAKER_01You know, it's had a much boob as the same amount of boobies as Deborah Logan.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. And not as pretty old boobies, not as old than Deborah Logan.
SPEAKER_01But what I'm saying, if if you're I guess it depends what you're into. Right, exactly. Uh, some people may like the Dobra Logan.
SPEAKER_02People love a guilf.
SPEAKER_05I was uh took the words right out of my mouth.
SPEAKER_01But I'm saying if you want your tween or teenager who's getting into horror movies, this isn't a bad one. Yeah. Because it is a got some comedic, it's got a good storyline, it's got some creatures, and just one set of boobs.
SPEAKER_05And take it and take it from someone who just went on the word of the horror community, people just hyping up this movie. It it delivers. Yeah. Like you can just go on that, just go get it.
SPEAKER_01So fast forward if you haven't seen it, so you don't ruin the ending, but if you want to ruin it, listen.
SPEAKER_05It's your life. The lab employees start celebrating the success of the right, seeing that Dana is the only survivor, but are interrupted by a phone call from the director. It's revealed that Marty is somehow still alive and things are no longer peachy keen for the lab crew. Marty intercepts one of the Buckner's assaults on Dana and takes her to a hidden elevator shaft that the discovered. They descend into the lab and discover a large collection of different monsters locked in cages, waiting to be released. Dana correlates some of them with the trinkets that we're all toying with in the cabin's cellar and realizes that the objects determine which monsters are released. Upon exiting the elevator, they are soon cornered by security personnel, and Dana releases all the monsters, which slaughter the security personnel and soon make their way through the whole lab workforce. Cut to the control center, we see Gary attempting to open a secure latch to escape shortly before the door is blown out open. After gaining consciousness, Steve is killed by the merman, who he bet on the ritual pool. Gary eventually opens the hatch, but not before Wendy is grabbed up by the giant snake. Poor Gary doesn't make it too far though because he physically runs into Dana, who accidentally stabs him and leaves him for dead. Dana and Marty flee and discover an ancient temple where they are confronted by the director. She explains that the worldwide annual ritual of human sacrifices are held to appease the ancient ones, a group of cruel deities. Each region has its own ritual, and the American ritual involves the sacrifice of five slasher film archetypes the whore, the athlete, the scholar, the fool, and the virgin. The order of the killings is arbitrary as long as the whore dies first and the virgin dies last or survives. The director urges Dana to kill Marty to complete the ritual and spare humanity as all the other rituals had failed that year. Dana is about to, but is attacked by a werewolf. With Dana incapacitated, the director attacks Marty. Out of nowhere, Patien Buckner shows up with an axe and strikes the director in the head. Seeing his chance, Marty tosses Patience and the Director into the dark pit. Dana and Marty decide that humanity is not worth saving at the price of human sacrifices, and Dana apologizes to Marty for almost killing him, and the two share a joint while awaiting their fate. The temple floor collapses, and a giant hand emerges from the ground, destroying the faculty and the cabin as the world ends. So how'd you feel about the ending?
SPEAKER_01You know, it's it's an ending that makes you mad. Obviously, because you want to see like something happen, right? Like maybe you wanted to see Marty and the Virgin die just so that the world can live on. Like if they had to be sacrificed for the rest of us, uh huh, is that the ending you would have won it? But they went the other route.
SPEAKER_02No, I love I'm such a nihilist. I love the ending that we got. I love everything's fucked. It's all starting over. I'm with Marty on this. Like, it's time for a refresh. It if you were in that situation, would you want it to continue? Like giant hand monster comes out of the ground. That sounds fun.
SPEAKER_01I I choose giant hand man monster.
SPEAKER_05So I've I'm I'm with Shelly. On this, I'm cool with the world ending. I love oblique ending to a film. Yeah, give me a thing all day. Like between Marty and Dana, if I was in that situation, be like, oh, I'm gonna die either way. So if I die eight minutes earlier, then the whole world is saved for now. So I'm just gonna go ahead and be like, off me the quickest fucking way possible. So it, you know, we can get this over with, and maybe you know, the sun will rise tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01You could probably do an hour-long podcast on how people feel about this ending.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And their different opinions. It's just that that kind of ending, you know, where you've got you could have just shot them and you could have lived and they would have been okay with that. But then like we continue this yearly, we had to sacrifice five kids to keep the world.
SPEAKER_02Well, and it's just five kids in this country.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And not in every other country that's also doing it at the same time. Right.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, because in Japan was like nine school kids or something.
SPEAKER_01I I don't know their rules.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. I think each region was different rules, but yeah, ours was the five. United States was the five slasher archetypes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05But it was cool because there was kind of a hint that something was had went awry when Kurt and Jules and Holden all died and their blood came down, like everything was fine. But there was a bit of a shakeup and things started cracking when we thought that Marty had died because blood came down, but it was obviously, you know, he flipped it on the Buckner and killed them. It it was obvious that something was wrong.
SPEAKER_01It happened earlier. The Harbinger said the fool will be your downfall.
SPEAKER_05Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_01When he was talking to uh I didn't want to bring it up, but he said the fool will be basically.
SPEAKER_05You do love that harbinger.
SPEAKER_01I do. I love him. Yeah. Mordecai.
SPEAKER_05Mordecai's Mordecai, my boy.
SPEAKER_01Fist pump.
SPEAKER_05Um with his weird pink eye or whatever. Man, that looked nasty.
SPEAKER_01Only cool people get pink eye.
SPEAKER_05Um we gotta put that on a shirt.
SPEAKER_01Um, yeah, no, he said like he met the fool and he was like, You need to watch the fool.
SPEAKER_02Because I think he picked up on his he saw those secret abs and lost his mind. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01The hidden abs.
SPEAKER_02The hidden abs.
SPEAKER_01He Marty just went in the back, flashed him.
SPEAKER_05He's like, You're gonna be a problem. You you guys, let's do our stabs.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, yeah. I forgot that part.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, Shelly. You want me to go first? Yeah, please do.
SPEAKER_01I've only done this once, and I feel like I have to do it one more time this season. Maybe for just myself. Um, but I am gonna give this a 4.9. 4.9. I don't know. I'd like to give it a five. You give it a five. I'm gonna give it a five. Fuck yeah. Here's the thing. I just think like I love any movie that can do comedy, that can do horror, that has creatures, practical effects, good acting. It checked my boxes. Yeah. Checked my box.
SPEAKER_05So five.
SPEAKER_01Five.
SPEAKER_05Nice. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02John, what about you, bud? I'm gonna give it a three.
SPEAKER_05Three.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm gonna be contrarian. I I think it's a good movie. I think it's a lot of fun. I think its biggest downfall is that it expects the entire audience to be on the same page with it at all times. So if you're not a horror fan. Oh yeah, that's true. If you don't like horror and you see this one, you're gonna enjoy the first half because it's a standard horror film, and then when it switches gears, it's making fun of something you don't know. And so it's not funny, it's more just a confusing mess of 45 minutes. Um, and Josh Whedon relies too heavily on him being the smartest person in the room at all times, and I think it's its biggest downfall.
SPEAKER_05Nice.
SPEAKER_01Like it.
SPEAKER_05I am gonna give it a 4.5 because I thought it was great horror, great humor, and a just overall fun film. So I gave it a 4.5, and Matt gave it a 4.5 as well. All right. So love it. That's our stabs. Next up, we got voices from beyond. And this Shelly just goes through social media and shares you guys' thoughts. So, Shelly, take it away.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, as always, you can find us on Facebook and Instagram, uh, little bracket of horrors. Check us out, give us your opinions. We love hearing from you. We got a lot of comments on this movie. I think it's a popular one. So we got Pat D said, I'm not much of a horror guy. So here's someone who's not a horror person, but they loved Cabin in the Woods. Absolutely demented, perfection. It basically takes all the tropes I dislike about horror and turns them upside down to create a really compelling, unpredictable, and most importantly, hilarious send-up of the genre that is also still legitimately scary as hell. That's a good way to look at it from a non-horror perspective. Travis B said, as always, the stoner saves the day. Love it. Lisa R says, let's kick off with this movie is her five stabby stabs.
SPEAKER_05Ah, we got it. We finally got it.
SPEAKER_01Yep. The movie embodies everything a horror movie should have solid plot with minimum loopholes, perfect setup, likable characters, scary fill-ins, and comedy. It even makes fun of itself. There are twists and turns and keeps you engaged throughout. Don't ignore this movie and watch it now. P. S. Favorite parts were the Unicorn and the Merman.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Favorite characters are Marty, Sidderson, and Hadley. Favorite quote is from Marty. I'm gonna go read a book with pictures.
unknownOh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Matt S said uh it achieved that rare feat of being unique but familiar at the same time. Roger R said, great high concept, very good delivery, unhappy ending, five stabs. Which I do have to throw in. Then Lisa R replied with, Why do you like unhappy endings? Endings are you foreshadowing something?
SPEAKER_05Oh no.
SPEAKER_01So the wife got involved with that one. Just needed to throw that out there. Too early in marriage for that talk.
SPEAKER_05Too early.
SPEAKER_01Mike R said, so cheesy and stereotypical by design, but such a solid film hitting both the horror and comedy check marks. Actually, didn't care for it after the first watch. Now I have it as one of my favorites. Christian S said the ancient one, sacrificial offering ending wasn't my kind of thing. I prefer the typical horror movie, even if it's predictable. So straight ahead. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, straightforward. Yeah, cool.
SPEAKER_01And then Carrie W said. Wow, wow, wow. What a great movie. I've never seen this before, but remember going through the house at Halloween Horror Nights and was terrified to see it. Love the story. I always jump scare at the one scene, even after a few times this week. Overall, great films gave it four stabs.
SPEAKER_05Ooh, four stabs.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So those are voices from beyond.
SPEAKER_05Awesome, guys. Thank you so much to everyone who uh shared your thoughts. You know, we sit here, talk for an hour or whatever, but uh, you know, we really want your guys' opinions on these films as well. So thank you. Thanks everyone so much. You got any interesting facts you want to throw in? Yeah, I do have one. We okay.
SPEAKER_01So we discussed a little bit about Tom the intern, right? Is that what is his actual name?
SPEAKER_02Oh god, I have it here. You'll get it. Wait, I thought it was Dwight? No. Dwight.
SPEAKER_01Uh Ronald. Ronald the intern. So we talk about the intern.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's this great little, like just silly guy who comes into bet and he's like, it's first time betting, and like he's wet behind the ears and everything. Even when they're partying and drinking, they're talking about getting overtime. He's like, I don't get overtime. I'm an intern. And he's just like this great little, like, silly character. He's an actor from the Buffy series. Anyways, at one point, now they're killing. We're getting a glimpse on the screens of all these creatures killing, which I love seeing all the different glimpses. And at one point, there's a screen with Ronald the intern, and he's holding up a sign. So like someone can see him, but you can't read the sign. I have what the sign says.
SPEAKER_04Oh, good. Yes.
SPEAKER_01So the in indiscernible sign that Tom Lang, that's the actor's name, holds up on the monitor, were attended to be a visible and red. They wanted people to be able to read it. You can't. Okay. It says, help me. I'm in the utility closet. A dragon bat has my scent. I'm Ronald the intern.
SPEAKER_04I'm Ronald the intern.
SPEAKER_01So the director Drew Goddard attempted to zoom in and make it readable to the audience, but it just wasn't possible. So hilarious. I love that. Just one last time. He's like, I'm Ronald. I'm the I'm I'm an intern.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So many times.
SPEAKER_02Could we change it? Can he be my favorite character?
SPEAKER_01He can be your favorite character. You can flip it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yes. I love that.
SPEAKER_01The only other fun fact that I had was all the different countries, those were all homages to different horror movies. Oh, yeah. So you got a glimpse at the end of all the other countries who failed. Once Japan failed, and once the US starts going down, you get glimpses of it. So Japan was off obviously Ringo.
SPEAKER_05Ringo, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um Buenos Aires was King Kong. You noticed like a big ape creature was laying on the ground. Interesting. Stockholm was uh the thing, John Comforter's the thing. It was like a snowy thing. It was a helicopter flying over. And then they think Madrid was uh possibly a Dracula reference, but Oh, was that the Castle Burn?
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Oh, okay. Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_01That was my two fun facts that I really liked. There's so many about this movie.
SPEAKER_02Um I could have I could go on for a while, but I love this universe where they've taken ownership of every other film. They they wrote it and they're like, they all belong to us. We're gonna make the most money off of it. But I'd love to see a version of this with the thing monster and how they defeat it.
SPEAKER_05And like oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'd love I'd love to just see 15-20-minute pictorial of each of those countries.
SPEAKER_05Yes. Wonderful. I would watch that on people's reputation alone.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_05Like, okay, I'll go and do this again.
SPEAKER_01Did anybody have any other feelings? No, that was it. That was good. That was good.
SPEAKER_05All right, guys, let's go on to our wheel of first and foremost. We must replace our current movie on the list.
SPEAKER_01So Shelly is gonna grab I was gonna have our guest here select our next movie.
SPEAKER_05John is gonna grab our next movie out of the Frankenstein.
SPEAKER_01You put your hand in the hole.
SPEAKER_05I'm familiar with how this works.
SPEAKER_01Alright, cool.
SPEAKER_05In the big hole.
SPEAKER_02In the biggest hole gets the biggest.
SPEAKER_01Just pick one. Yeah. They're little.
SPEAKER_02Oh, they are tiny little things. Okay.
SPEAKER_01So we're replacing Cabin in the Woods.
SPEAKER_02So we have ten with Ringo. Nice. Ringo.
SPEAKER_05How hilarious.
SPEAKER_01That we just said Ringo, and now we pulled it. Ringoo. Ringo. Ringo. Ringo.
SPEAKER_02It's Ringo Star.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Isn't there a movie about a lizard that's like Ringo?
SPEAKER_02Oh, the uh Ringo. Ringo. Yeah. Starring Johnny Deppett failed at the box office.
SPEAKER_05Yes. So we are replacing Cav in the Woods with Ringo.
SPEAKER_01Now, John may not know this, but today's kind of a big day.
SPEAKER_05Oh.
SPEAKER_01In the bracket series, we were going to watch 20 movies.
SPEAKER_02Great.
SPEAKER_01And then we're going to do like a terminant style deat match to pick our favorite of the season.
SPEAKER_02Great.
SPEAKER_01This is our last movie that we're going to watch.
SPEAKER_02This is our 20th movie.
SPEAKER_01We're spinning the wheel for movie number 20.
SPEAKER_02And so I know the 19 others you've done. And I feel like I know which one's going to be number one, and I can't wait to see what it ends up being.
SPEAKER_01Well, it just depends the matchups, too. We don't know what the matchups are going to be. How because we're going to What if you put two number fives up to next to each other, you lose one?
SPEAKER_05Because uh we're gonna the end of next next episode, we're gonna do our drawing, and it's all gonna be randomized. So what gets pitted against what is is completely random. Just like we we draw movies out of the uh trick-or-treat monster bag. Gonna do it for the uh the bracket as well. So it's is the bag named Ian? That's that's the boy's name who carries it around. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I love this idea that both the bag and the boy are both named Ian.
SPEAKER_01It can be.
SPEAKER_05Are you guys ready to spin the wheel?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh, but what ten movies do we have on the wheel right now?
SPEAKER_05So we got the Poughkeepsie tapes, The Dead Pit, Wolf Cop, City of the Dead, Knight of the Living Dead, Nasperatu, Good Night Mommy, the newly added Ringu, Tucker and Dale vs. Evil, and Knight of the Demon. I put Knight of the Demo.
SPEAKER_01So, John, just really quick, out of those ten, which one would you want the wheel to pick?
SPEAKER_02Uh, is City of the Dead the uh Fulci? No.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_02No. Then I'm gonna say Tucker and Dale. Tucker and Dale? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Same style a little bit.
SPEAKER_02Happened to comedy horror. I'm always into a comedy horror. It's great for a background. I love it.
SPEAKER_01I love it. Alright. You guys ready? We're ready.
SPEAKER_02Alright.
SPEAKER_05Wheel of death.
SPEAKER_01Wheel of death.
SPEAKER_05Wheel of death.
SPEAKER_01Wheel of death.
SPEAKER_05Our next movie is City of the Dead. Oh. So let's check out City of the Dead.
SPEAKER_01What year is it?
SPEAKER_05It's 1960.
SPEAKER_01This one? 1961?
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_01It's on Tubi.
SPEAKER_05Tubi always on Tubi. It is.
SPEAKER_01Gotta love Tubi. And it might be on Shudder too, but it might be a good one.
SPEAKER_05It looks like it might be free on Amazon Prime as well. If you uh well if you have Amazon Prime. What's Freevie?
SPEAKER_02Is that a new one? Freebie is by Amazon. Oh, it's Amazon's version of Tubi. Interesting.
SPEAKER_01It is on Shudder.
SPEAKER_05Oh, it's on Shudder too.
SPEAKER_01As it starts to play.
SPEAKER_05As it starts to play. Alright, so that's 1961's The City of the Dead. Like we said, available on Tubi. That's that's our go-to.
SPEAKER_01Shutter if you have a subscription, and probably Amazon too if you have a subscription there.
SPEAKER_05That will be our final film, our 20th film, and then after that we get into our bracket. Let's close this off. John, thank you so much for coming out. Thank you for having me. I thoroughly enjoyed your perspective on uh the movie and what kind of stuff is falling apart in my house.
SPEAKER_01But thank you so much for coming out and definitely we're gonna tag John's company, Bat Moon Effects. Uh check them out. They make some really dope masks this time of year. It may be too late for Halloween, I would think, to like get something.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's it's a little too late to get some custom stuff made and shipped this close to Halloween. Yeah. But we always start our next Halloween orders in November.
SPEAKER_01So if you want something for next, what was the mask that you were doing this year that's like a well-known horror movie? It was something you were doing. It was a horror mask.
SPEAKER_02Oh, your next. Yes, you're doing something next. So if you would like to dress as you are next, please hit us up online.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we'll tag Badman FX this week so you guys can check out John and uh you own that company with with your hubby, Eric, right? Yeah. Yeah. So John and Eric both Badman FX. We we loved having you. We really did. Yeah, this was great.
SPEAKER_02If you'd like to also, we'll be doing a panel at Spooky Empire Wednesday. Yes. When does this come out?
SPEAKER_01This comes out Wednesday.
SPEAKER_05Yes, this will be out this Wednesday. Yeah. Wonderful.
SPEAKER_02So if you're gonna come to Spooky Empire, come check out our panel on insert date and time here. I don't know when it is, but it'll be in the program.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, just get your program. Stop being a jerk. Get your program, make plans, and go check out John's panel. But good point.
SPEAKER_01We got Spooky Empire next weekend. The whole podcast family will be there. Um, Derek, well, except Matt. Yeah. Derek's coming with his wifey, and they're coming as congoers. I'll be there working, and John works.
SPEAKER_05So I do love some panels, so I'm all about the panels.
SPEAKER_01You may also see Lisa R running around with the Lisa R. Yeah, a lot of the podcast family will be there, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Alright, guys, make sure you stay with us and tune into the end of the season where all these movies we watch will be thrown into a March Madness style bracket, and we will determine which movies get cut and which film will be crowned champion of Little Bracket of Horrors. If you listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, please hit the follow button and give us a rating and review if you like what we do. You can find us on Facebook by searching Little Bracket of Horrors and on Instagram by typing at LittleBracket of Horrors. Thank you everyone for tuning in. I'm Derek. I'm Shelly. I'm John. And we will catch you on the other side.
SPEAKER_02I do not want to do the entire job. I don't need the page.
SPEAKER_01Welcome to Little Bracket of Horrors, the pod that puts the fight and fright.
SPEAKER_05Yep. I'm recording, so just go ahead and I like to sneak it on you guys. Oh, let me turn on my. We're talking shit and you're like, I've recorded all of this.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Like, for example, I stayed at a haunted airbeam, like, bed at breakfast, and like a ghost tried to tuck in my sheet. That was pretty scary to me.
SPEAKER_02Room service just terrifying. That is the friendliest ghost I've ever heard.
SPEAKER_05Do you guys is that the plane? I have a stupid airport that's like over there. I was like, there's like a It sounded like music.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it sounded like music, but it sounded like it was only coming from through our headphones. Can you take the headphones off?
SPEAKER_02Oh good, we're haunted.
SPEAKER_01Yay. We clearly do a lot of editing, I guess. We watched a movie where a guy bit off penises and have you ever seen Thirst?
unknownThirst.
SPEAKER_05No, yeah, yeah. Icelandic vampire movie? Not yet. It's on my list.
SPEAKER_01The vampire literally would like find guys' tricks and go down and do a blowjob and then bite their vampire like their penises off. So we watched that on the show. So it's a real good point. We want to know how explicit we get.
SPEAKER_02You should watch teeth then, too.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah. Teeth is good. Compare or contrast. Between the two, teeth is like ten times fucking better. So just just to give you a warning. Overall, puros. Let me redo that. That was weird.
SPEAKER_01Peros.
SPEAKER_02Pierogies. Do you like pierogies? Yes. There's a pierogi place in Clearwater. Yeah. They have a giant dancing um pierogi that looks like a maxi pad.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I haven't seen the maxi pad, but I didn't see that.
SPEAKER_02Is that a pierogi grill on Gulf de Bay?
SPEAKER_01Is it the Gulf de Bay one? There might be a different one.
SPEAKER_02The one on the way to the Scientology Center? Yeah. That way. I haven't been there since I left Clearwater like 10 years ago. Okay. So I don't know if it's still there. I lived here a long, long time ago, and there was a pierogi place by a dog park on the way to the Scientology Center.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And they used to have a dancing pierogi outside. Oh that hilarious. The c a pierogi costume, just like a white thing. It looks like a maxi colour.
SPEAKER_01I can see it. I can see it.
SPEAKER_05That's hilarious. Yeah. We got sidetracked on pierogies because I don't know how to talk. Alright. So are you done with your cons? I don't want to jump in. I do that a lot.
SPEAKER_01Jarek has a problem with that. I do.
SPEAKER_05She likes to jump on people. 90% of the editing is me interrupting people on this fucking podcast. So it's all my own fault.
SPEAKER_02I'll tell you and feel cut the shit out of it. Yeah, yeah. It took us three days to watch Hocus Pocus 2 for the same reason. Like, I got to a certain point and was like, I can't do this anymore. Turned it off. Had to come back to it another day. Got to a certain point and was like, I hate this movie and I'm gonna kill myself if I have to finish it. Turned it off. Took three days to watch that damn movie.
SPEAKER_01And did you change your opinion once you got through it?
SPEAKER_02No, I'll never watch it again.
SPEAKER_01I got to we got to Walgreens when they were in the Walgreens, and that was the first time that I haven't got that. I haven't gone back. But after that Walgreens scene, when they're on the she's on the Roombas, which I'm like, I get what you're going for, but like, no.
SPEAKER_02One of the funniest jokes. One of the funniest jokes is later Kathleen and Jimmy calls her the Roombas follow her.
SPEAKER_01They like Yes, I I saw a little bit of that.
SPEAKER_02At one point, she calls them her roomies, and she says, My roomies are here to party, and it's the funniest fucking line in the movie. The ending is very sweet. Bette Midler is a truly good actress, and there's a very sweet ending with her.
SPEAKER_01I just wanted to smack all the children.
SPEAKER_02It's all a terrible movie.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But for the same shit, I started it and my husband made me finish it. He's like, We're gonna finish this fucking movie. I did not invest an hour of my life into it so far now to see how it ends. Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_05I still I still have yet to check it out, but uh here's the thing, I like I like some garbage shit, so I it might be. You like New York Ripper.
SPEAKER_01I love New York Ripper, Henry, Portrait of Sarah Colous.
SPEAKER_05Those are good movies. I saw I saw some I saw some worthwhile uh parts of Thirst.
SPEAKER_00Three, two, one, go.
SPEAKER_05Go. Hey guys, this is Derek from Little Bracket of Horrors. And if you listened a couple weeks ago, I spoke about Ian, my son. Uh he watched his first scary movie, so he wanted to talk about it today. So, Ian, introduce yourself.
SPEAKER_00Um, my name is Ian, and I'm nine years old, and when I watched the movie What what movie was it? Um it was Motivos.
SPEAKER_05Well the so the complete title is Doctor Strange in the multiverse of madness. Was it madness to you?
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh. Yeah. It was complete madness.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Do you want me to read the little uh synopsis of it?
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_05Alright, so Doctor Strange teams up with a mysterious teenage girl from his dreams who can travel across multiverses to battle multiple threats, including other universe versions of himself, which threatens to wipe out millions across the multiverse. How did you feel? Because in it we saw it on Disney Plus, right?
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_05And were you excited to watch it?
SPEAKER_00I was excited. I did not expect it to be made by a man who makes like creepy movies for a living.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Do you know what the director's name was?
SPEAKER_00I forgot it. I remember you told me in the car, but I forgot it.
SPEAKER_05His name is Sam Raimi.
SPEAKER_00Raimi.
SPEAKER_05Sam Raimi. Yeah. He makes one of Daddy's favorite films, which is Evil Dead. Well, the whole Evil Dead series Daddy likes. Have you ever seen any of Daddy's Evil Dead stuff? No. Okay. Daddy's got a couple things. But okay, so it was directed by a guy who does do scary movies. So did you know that going in?
SPEAKER_00Um no. I did not know that because it has nothing about it being a hollow movie. It like shows no jump scale. or no creepy stuff in the intro, which is very weird. I mean you have to show the like the the people who watch that movie like that it is not for children that are like nine years old because that is creepy.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Did you watch the first Doctor Strange?
SPEAKER_00Uh I think we did.
SPEAKER_05Yeah we watched it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That one was not scary.
SPEAKER_05No, it wasn't scary.
SPEAKER_00And then they made it scary.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, this one. Okay, so are you ready to get into the film?
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_05Okay. I'm gonna ask you off the bat, let's start on a positive. Do you agree with that? Yes. Okay. So what did you like about the film?
SPEAKER_00Um I mainly like the fact that um it has a lot of stuff happening and like I like that like whenever I like watch world stuff I like it and there's a lot of stuff happening.
SPEAKER_05Okay. So you like that it's a busy film. It's action packed? Yes. Okay. What about uh okay so you like that about the film. What about characters? Did you like any of the characters?
SPEAKER_00I liked only one character.
SPEAKER_05Who?
SPEAKER_00It is Moose Man.
SPEAKER_05Who's Moose man?
SPEAKER_00It's it's like one of the characters. You only see him at the attack of Wanda well she comes over to castle and starts attacking. Okay. Um oh he was he was guarding the uh the fortress or whatever it was that was okay he was one of the guys rhino or a moose let's I think he's a rhino actually well let's let's look real quick on that on the Google yeah so moose let's see that see if there's a moose oh it looks like a yeah it looks like a yeah this guy right here is that the Yeah do not sneeze on the microphone is that him yes okay so I actually no he looks like a bull that's a bull okay so you like that guy because he was part of the good guys he's and he's rocky okay so he's weird and I like think everyone would agree that he is probably one of the best characters because he's just it's just insane that like there's a man helping Doctor Strange that is like a rhino.
SPEAKER_05Well yeah he's a bull he's a bull yeah so it looks like his name is Rintra Rintra?
SPEAKER_00I I could be saying that wrong and he only survived like for like he only lived his life for like five minutes and then died. Oh yeah that's what he sacked very I'm very sad that because I love that character.
SPEAKER_05Yeah so that was your favorite character? Yes. Okay so let's talk about your least favorite character and then we'll get into what you didn't like about the movie. So tell me about your character.
SPEAKER_00Which character did you not like I really didn't like Did you like Wanda like in the middle okay I do not like the fact that um she like is trying to kill a child the teenager that teenager for like two other kids when she literally lost her parents and you're trying to kill her.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. So it looks like uh the teenager's name was uh America Chavez yeah it was America Chavez. Okay so that was the character that Wanda was trying to eliminate did you have any negative characters Wanda you were kind of midway on. I figured you might not like her because she was mean in this one but but uh you didn't have any that you disliked?
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_05Okay cool. So how about what did you not like about the movie? So let's get into that because I know you have some stuff to say.
SPEAKER_00The worst part about it is when like one of the guys in like the O in that other universe um they just showed like why they killed Doctor Strange in that multiverse and it just was Doctor Strange dying. Like they didn't show what happened so we couldn't tell why they did this or what happened.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So it doesn't have any information why they had to kill him.
SPEAKER_05And the different verse in the in the different multiverse yeah yeah they said no information.
SPEAKER_00Yeah so it just kinda happened in the world they were just like they were just like oh we killed the other version of you so what else did you not like about the film? Probably my other least part uh least favorite part in the film what about what about the jump scares?
SPEAKER_05The jump jump scales? Yeah because I know you said there were scary parts and then that you didn't like two jump scales.
SPEAKER_00Okay so tell us about the two jump scares in the list and I have a question should I do Wanda's jump scale or Doctor Strange jump scale?
SPEAKER_05You can do them both. Go for both of them.
SPEAKER_00Which one should I do first?
SPEAKER_05You want me to choose? Mm-hmm Okay's go Wanda since this is a Doctor Strange movie we'll do Doctor Strange last.
SPEAKER_00So Wanda's jump scare tell us about it so apparently in one of the fights the guy who was the boss of the Roy like Royal Republic in that other multiverse he went in Rwanda's head and Wanda was trapped in like things and then black smoke comes out and something unique about this jump scale is because you don't know when it's gonna happen. I thought he was gonna turn around and she just stand there and kill him then. Oh yeah but instead she pulls him back and kills him. Oh okay which I did not expect that did that get you pretty good I got yeah that got me pretty good.
SPEAKER_05Okay. You want to tell us about the Doctor Strange jump scare?
SPEAKER_00Okay yes so when they're at one of Doctor Strange's motives the bad version of him his house when they are both talking and he says he's gonna fight him to make sure he doesn't get that faint I don't know what they were fighting over the his forehead a eye appeals and opens up and I did not expect that.
SPEAKER_05Mm-hmm. I expected a hand oh you expected a hand I expected a hand something that's not even on his face to appear off his face?
SPEAKER_00I expected the hand.
SPEAKER_05Okay but instead it was something creepy a eye okay and I I think a hand is creepier coming off of someone's face than an eye at least an eye belongs on someone's face right well three eyes are just weird. They look like an alien then yeah okay alright so um what about the first scare was there a first scare like when did you when did you realize like uh oh I'm in for a sort of scary movie the first scale was when the like Wanda was coming to the castle I'm like this is a horror movie yeah and when they Wanda went to Hull Castle I saw those like big ginoma skull things I'm like this is straight up a hollow movie. So so in your opinion Doctor Strange Multiverse was a straight up horror film. Yeah it was a horror okay so you know how on daddy's podcasts we give him one to five stab if we liked it all right what do you give Doctor Strange Multiverse? How many stabs do you give it?
SPEAKER_00I would give it maybe five maybe the one that's giving it to five is when Doc so strange he connects to his other version and turns in and like is a zombie. Yeah the zombie version I did not expect that. Yeah did that scare you a little bit yes okay that like straight up taught me that that is literally this is made from a a horror film guy. And when that happened I'm like can we turn off this movie?
SPEAKER_05Yeah I think you were wrapped up in your blanket at that point and wanted to dip. Yeah yeah okay but you give it five stabs that means that means you loved it and it was a masterpiece I do you think it's a masterpiece? Yes.
SPEAKER_00Okay it's a master of scale and insaneness and jump scaleness.
SPEAKER_05Jump scariness I like that okay what about like personally like do you like this movie? Do you hate this movie? Not necessarily like do you think it's a good horror movie?
SPEAKER_00I like this I like that movie.
SPEAKER_05Oh interesting because I've asked you to watch this movie again and you said no you're fine.
SPEAKER_00Because I remember everything that happened.
SPEAKER_05Yeah and you're just you're tapped out okay fair enough all right before we wrap it up do you want to share anything else about uh the Doctor Strange film?
SPEAKER_00Um probably that if you like decide to make your child watch this that movie and they are not over ten years old if they love horror movies seeing like nine of them show that's a very specific number.
SPEAKER_05If they've seen nine horror films they can watch this.
SPEAKER_00Yeah okay if they have seen zero and they're like uh world than ten or above if they're above ten show they'll probably be fine. If they're not above ten they will probably not be able to sleep without a grown up Okay.
SPEAKER_05How about do you think Daddy is a bad parent for making you watch it?
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Good answer. Alright Ian do you want to say anything else before we wrap it up? Um anything else to the world are you good?
unknownUm I think I'm good.
SPEAKER_05Okay. With that we'll say we'll say goodbye guys. Thanks if you tuned in to this extra little content that uh Ian wanted to create and uh we will catch you on the other side.
unknownBye bye