Unsexy Church
The Unsexy Church podcast is dedicated to defining what makes a Biblical church truly healthy. Pastors Bob Block and Darren Selvidge bring a unique blend of humor, experience, and information as they discuss preaching, leading, and serving the local church. The Unsexy Church podcast is a ministry resource of FBC Tampa in Tampa, Florida.
Unsexy Church
Season 2 Episode 52: On Making Decisions
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
Whether you’re considering a move, a job change, or even marriage, there are ways to approach your choices prayerfully and thoughtfully. Pastor Trent and Pastor Bob have processes which they use and they share this with us during this episode of Unsexy Church. Tune in this week to find out more about how to honor the Lord in your decision-making!
Introduction to Decision
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 3I did yeah. Sharing that with everybody, it was interesting.
Speaker 2Your face does kind of look weird. It's like kind of.
Speaker 3Thank you, thank you so much for that.
Speaker 2You did get it numb.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2You said you were spitting water. Was it just kind of like falling out of your mouth when you were drinking something?
Speaker 3I think I was trying to drink it so it just went, just couldn't feel it, and then have you got the feeling back.
Speaker 1Yeah, now I have.
Speaker 3Oh good, yes, good, good good.
Speaker 2So since I've been here in Tampa last eight years, so I've had glasses or contacts since I was like in fourth grade, you know, I've been going to the dentist, especially as a kid, very consistently. But it wasn't until I moved to Tampa where those two visits included additional things. So when I had an eye appointment in Tampa the first six months of me being here, I had an eye appointment to get some updated glasses and they did the dilation and I had never had that done before. What I'm serious, I never had my eyes dilated ever. I had had the thing where, like they, they push the air in your eye, check the eye pressure Not a fan of that, Not a fan of that. And they all have the same picture. Have you had your eyes, of course, pressurized? Yeah, of course. Yeah, have you?
Speaker 3I haven't. My eyes are perfect.
Speaker 2Yeah, you spit out water today, I wouldn't talk, so it's always a hot air balloon.
Speaker 1Yes, at a distance yeah.
Speaker 2Isn't not a weird thing?
Speaker 2every place is a hot air balloon, probably like one company making all these things, so story yeah, but I got my eyes dilated and then I immediately, like I was in target optical, came out of target, was going to pick up some things, for my wife had no idea my eyes were dilated and didn't know you couldn't drive after that or it wasn't recommended. I'm walking around and someone comes up to me and was like hey, trent, and I'm thinking, okay, let me do some explaining here. I think this happens on a certain under the influence of a certain drug, but I can't see you and I didn't know their names yet. Um, it was actually, uh, suzanne Suarez and Megan Cates. And so, like I immediately said, hey, I've never had my eyes dilated. They're dilated right now, but it's because I walked out of that building. Sure, not the green alien placed selling things next door Target Optical.
Speaker 1They bought it. They did buy it. I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 2They bought it because it's true, then I also had never had a cavity and I got a cavity, since I've been here and had it numbed. That's a weird feeling too.
Speaker 3It's weird.
Speaker 2Well, hey, I'm just so glad we're back together.
Speaker 1That all started just simply because I said that Kara went to the dentist today. Sorry about that. It's good to be back. Why did we miss last week? What was up?
Speaker 2What was up last week. A lot of things have happened in the last few weeks. I was out of town Wednesday.
Speaker 1You have new responsibilities that kept you away Thursday.
Speaker 2So yeah, yep, yep, yep, we're both out Friday. Friday's me off, so you lost the soccer game we did Sorry.
Speaker 1We did, but that's okay. Kids played hard. Yeah, that was in regionals, regional final, regional final so you made it far. We did. I'm proud of the boys. You made it to regionals the year before. Is that correct? We've made it to regionals. We've never made it to a final before.
Speaker 2That's as far as we've made, speaking of final B4, final four, march Madness has it started? It's about to. It's almost March, it's getting ready for conference tournaments. I think Tennessee's in top 10, but they were one, they're not anymore.
Speaker 1Is.
Speaker 2Auburn still number one.
Speaker 1I think so, but I really have not been following it. It's hard for me to tell you Is this basketball? This is college basketball.
Speaker 2I don't follow it at all. I was in Knoxville last weekend for a very brief time and the 2024 World Series College World Series Champs, aka the Tennessee Volunteers, were playing a game on Friday night. We considered going. It was like $25, but it was like 25 degrees so we did not go.
Speaker 1That's $1 per degree. Yeah, I know Way too cold.
Speaker 2Well, hey, I have two options for facts. Would you like to know about Big Brother, or like to know about pilots sleeping?
Speaker 1I don't think I want to know about pilots sleeping.
Speaker 2I fly too often, especially with all the issues of flights that have happened lately.
Speaker 1Yes, so do you want to?
Speaker 2learn about Big Brother, okay.
Speaker 3Whoa.
Speaker 2TV commercials emit a tone inaudible to the human ear that your smartphone picks up, letting advertisers know that both devices might belong to you. This is one way in which advertisers work to deliver targeted ads to you. Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1I'm not saying I doubt it, I'm just saying it sounds like a conspiracy.
Speaker 2More things involved could be conspiratorial Technically. This is not Big Brother, this is big advertisement, this is big retail.
Speaker 1Have you noticed that commercials are always louder than whatever program you're watching. Yes, so they do that intentionally. They record it louder.
Speaker 2Yeah, so they could. I mean I guess they could emit some sort of signal your smartphone could pick up. I know, like, as you get older, do you remember this? There was a tone that so back in the day, with like Razer cell phones when the Razer was like the cool cell phone people were trading ringtone songs via Bluetooth. Okay, sure, one of those songs that was traded around via said via, via bluetooth, was something called the mosquito oh yeah it was a certain pitch of sound that as you get older, you can't hear anymore.
Speaker 2It's a high pitch, but dogs can hear it and freak out right. So if we were to play that sound now, I don't think you'd hear it. I doubt I would hear it anymore. Wow, kara might still be there.
Speaker 3It is. It's been a couple of weeks. It did eventually.
Speaker 1Kara might still be able to hear it.
Speaker 2So there are frequencies we just can't hear, and apparently advertisers recognize that.
Speaker 1I appreciate you clumping us in the same category as we.
Speaker 2Yeah, have you. I did, I clumped myself in there. Have you seen like all the jokes on like social media? So we know that big retail's a thing and we know that, like microphones are used on your phones to help gather information about you, to sell you things right. So have you heard the jokes about like a husband going to a wife's phone and being like new truck?
Speaker 2new truck new trucks, you know, so that their phone might immediately or eventually show an ad for trucks or something like that. Yeah, pretty funny. How to care for your husband. Cool gifts for fathers yeah, pretty funny, you were about to say something.
Speaker 1No, I thought twice about it before I said it. Oh, okay.
Speaker 2I filtered. Okay, you made a decision.
Speaker 1I did make a decision, and a wise one at that.
Speaker 2All right, Bob, here's a question for you. Would you rather get $1 million? We're back to those. I get these from other podcasts. I have to look at other people which podcast. Bread Basket something.
Speaker 3Bread Basket.
Speaker 2Two guys that vote on things together and stuff. They do kind of like a sports podcast. They do different sports feats. Could you do it? Feats, could you do it? Would you rather get $1 million or make $50,000 every time you run, slash, jog, slash, walk a marathon? That's been an official marathon, so you can't just go out walking, you can't add in you know your mileage for a week and it be a marathon. Oh really what? It's an official marathon.
Speaker 1You got to go and walk a marathon. This is simple. I mean, I can't physically do that anymore, so I'm taking the money up front.
Speaker 2How many marathons do you have to run? What's one million?
Speaker 3divided by 50,000? Is it 20? 20 marathons I don't know.
Speaker 2I would do a marathon you could do a marathon once a year, every year. I physically could not run a marathon.
Speaker 1No, I run, slash jog, slash walk. I'm not sure I can walk it. You could walk a marathon. You aren't in my legs, it would take a day.
Speaker 2So you devote a day right A year and you just need to do it for the next 20 years. But if you did it for 30 years and remain healthy at the same, time.
Speaker 3I think it would keep me on tabs with my health as well. So I would totally do that.
Speaker 1They did two marathons in one year, In 30 years. Do you think?
Speaker 3I'm going to care how much money I have. That's probably true, probably true, rawr.
Speaker 2Sorry, it's the old Ecclesiastes. What's the last chapter, 11?, 12? Is 12?
Speaker 3Is there 12 chapters?
Speaker 2Where he basically says one day you don't want to wake up anymore right, you're just tired of life. You're just tired of life, so that year you're not going to want to run a marathon.
Speaker 1Yeah, so I'm taking the money up front and investing.
Speaker 2Talking about making decisions. We want to talk about making decisions in today's episode. That is, making decisions on today's episode. That is making decisions of when maybe you're presented with an opportunity to move and take a job somewhere, or it's a make a decision between going to on missionary work to China for a year or Japan for a year and there are two good opportunities. Maybe it's a you know, a chain is chain of scenery for your family and you work a remote job, your wife doesn't work, your kids like the outdoors, and so you choose do I want to move to the beach or do I want to move to the mountains? I want to talk through how do we, as Christians, make decisions? What are some things we need to think through?
Speaker 1So you just give examples of big decisions.
Speaker 2These are big decisions, life change decisions. Yeah.
Speaker 1That's kind of what's in my mind a little bit, so not just everyday decisions like should I upsize my happy meal?
Speaker 2You know that kind of thing, bigger than that, but not necessarily as big as moving. Okay, so should I buy a new house? Should I move churches? Yes, should I. I mean, we make decisions every day, yeah.
Speaker 1And somebody said that your life is really just a result of all the decisions that you've made. Series of decisions. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Principles of Making Decisions
Speaker 2So we're thinking about medium-sized to bigger decisions here, ones that you really are really struggling. What decision? What do I do in this situation? Decisions you really have to slow down and think about. Yes, so we're slowing down and thinking about how they should make, how people should make decisions.
Speaker 1That made my head hurt.
Speaker 2Yeah, we're helping people think by thinking ourselves, so that people might think about our thinking when they think next time.
Speaker 3Okay, all right, look at that, run that back. Ladies and gentlemen Thinking, inception Wow Okay. Thinking-ception, thinking-ception.
Speaker 2Nice. So, pastor Bob, he made a decision there. I am confused, clearly, I am confused on the next decision I'm going to make, and it's a big decision. Okay, I was just presented the opportunity to, um, you know, I don't know buy a brand new car. That's a decision. And my car is. It's a little rough, it's, it's uh, it's, it's not on its last leg, but I don't really like it anymore.
Speaker 2Um, I have the money. Uh, what do I do? This is not me, by the way. I'm keeping my car, but what do I do?
Speaker 1How do we think through decision making as Christians, there's a lot of things you have to weigh in and factor in, and I would say even smaller decisions. The principles that you use there go into your bigger decisions. So there should be a process by which you're making decisions even on small things. But these medium-sized things, decisions even on small things, yeah, but these medium sized things, there's, there's a process by which so, do I need it? Is it, is it responsible, you know, can I afford it? Those kinds of questions you need to ask yourself as you, as you consider a purchase of a car.
Speaker 3What color is it? I am not see here's the thing y'all.
Speaker 2I am not a fan of bright colors with cars, or really much color at all.
Speaker 3Well, I'm green.
Speaker 2I would do black, silver, gray white. But you know, to each their own.
Speaker 1But that is part of your decision making. Not only am I going to buy it, but what color should it be? I?
Speaker 2say that. You know I'm going to talk about this for a second. I do like the new kinds of matte M-A-T-T-E colors, where they're not as glossy or something I don't really know what it's called Matte colors, and I like the sand. Look the beige, the beige and the green in the matte colors. Those look cool, those are cool.
Speaker 3So it's a brand new beige matte green car, or even the. A brand new beige mat green car, oh yeah, or even the green.
Speaker 2Yeah, the green mat. Did I already say green? Are you going to buy it? What are you going to?
Speaker 3do what?
Speaker 1Are you going to lease it? Are you going to buy it? Yeah, I'm not going to do anything. I'm keeping my car New previously owned.
Speaker 2I'm wanting to buy a house, so why aren't we using all house buying as an example, don't know. So what are some principles or processes by which we should make decisions? Well, why don't you start? You have some, okay, so why don't I just give all of mine and you give all of yours, okay? And then we'll let the listener decide which one's better. They have to make a decision. Ours are very similar. They are very similar. So I divided it up into principles and a process. Okay, so principles first, to think through, and then, if you're still not sure what to do, here's a process. Okay, here's the principles. Does this decision lead to disobedience to God's word or is it disobedience?
Speaker 1to God's word.
Speaker 2So the first thing to think through is is this obeying or disobeying God's word?
Speaker 1Right, okay. So how can buying a car be either obedient or disobedient to God, bypass the principle Explain?
Speaker 2Well, so buying a car it may not be either, and so that principle is checked out. Move to the next principle.
Speaker 1Okay, but what if buying a car puts your family at risk because you don't really need the car? I've got other factors for that.
Speaker 2Okay, I've got other factors for that. Okay, I've got other factors for that.
Speaker 2So, these are principles just to consider that should just shut down the decision immediately. Okay, right, so that would be the process section, pastor, what if it's a foreign car? Well, it depends what foreign car. If it's Toyota, sure. If it's Nissan, nissan's had some problems. I, if it's Nissan, nissan's had some problems, I don't know. Sorry, I digress, go ahead. So yeah, there might not be a yes or no answer to all of these, but these are check marks to think through. Okay, could this lead to disobedience? If it does, it should stop there. Second, is this against my conscience, where I have Christian liberty? So maybe someone's pulling me to do something? I need to make a decision for it, but really my conscience is keeping me from it. I know this is not something I want to do personally, so don't do it.
Speaker 1Not prohibited from doing it Biblically, biblically. But your conscience is telling you it's not the right thing.
Speaker 2That's correct For you at this time, and to go against that, according to Romans 14, would be sin. Sin, yeah. And then local church. If I'm a part of a local church now, it should probably prohibit me from making that decision. Unless you're in wartime, you're going to the military and there might be unique factors where, for a short, limited time, you may not be able to be a part of a local church. But if this is going to prohibit me from going to local church, I probably should just say no, sure. So those are the immediate no's Disobedience against my conscience, or it prohibits me from being a part of the body of Christ.
Speaker 1Those are the principles, big principles that overhang all decisions.
Speaker 2Yep and buying a car.
Speaker 1none of those really have much to do with buying a car, not directly, but they could.
Speaker 2So here's, then, the process. Those are the immediate no's. Here's the process. Those are the immediate no's. Here's the process. Pray for wisdom Proverbs bids us, encourages us to seek wisdom from the Lord and he will provide it. Proverbs 4, 5 through 9.
Speaker 2And so maybe you say you know, it doesn't seem like an unwise decision. That's the first part of the process. So then let's move to the second part of the process, consider practical matters. How can I use my gifts here? Is this a wise financial decision? Is this a better move going forward than where I am now? Is there more opportunity there, or does it seem like I would flourish here better? Do I need to wait until I have more facts and questions answered before I make a decision? So those are practical matters. The Lord has given you a brain to use right.
Speaker 2The Proverbs are a whole book of just matters of prudence, what to do in given situations. And even the Proverbs themselves. They say I think it's Proverbs 22 or 24, it says do this. And the next verse it says don't do this. And so they're to be applied practically in given situations. Don't answer the fool, answer the fool. There are certain times to answer the fool. There are certain times to not answer the fool. So use your brain, use the mind the Lord's given you. Consider practical matters. Pray for wisdom. Consider practical matters. The third is seek the counsel of wise people in your life. Proverbs 12 talks about this. Proverbs 15 talks about this. If you don't listen to wise counsel, you are a fool Sometimes. Just a note on this sometimes an outsider can help us see the decision objectively. Where you might have a lot of emotions tied up in it, they might help you just think through it from an outsider's perspective. A lot of times we already know what we're to do, but we need to hear people agree. We need to hear people affirm okay, yes, you should not do that Right.
Speaker 2Number four, fourth part of the process make the decision and trust the Lord. If you've sought the Lord in prayer, so you've already went through the principles. It is not a matter of disobedience to God's word. It's not a matter of going against my conscience. I can serve at a local church. There I've prayed for wisdom. It does feel like it's a wise decision, but there will also be a wise decision to do this thing Practically.
Speaker 2It makes sense. It's not necessary, but it makes sense. I've sought the counsel of a lot of people and they say you Make the decision and trust the Lord. Don't get into analysis, paralysis. Make a prayerful, prudent decision, wise decision and just trust the Lord. A lot of times we try to almost like figure out the sovereignty of God. If I do this, is it going to take me away from his? Is it going to mess up the butterfly effect of his plan for my life? And I think God's sovereignty is greater than that. He already knows the decision you're going to make and if you've sought him in it, it's not to be like well, sorry, trent, your life's messed up now.
Speaker 1No, he's already blessed that it's a good process. Thank you, does it work well for you?
Speaker 3I think, Seems to have. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2Here's the thing. We, I think, can come up with good advice. It's a matter of are we going to follow that advice?
Speaker 3right, so have I always followed this advice?
Speaker 2No, should I? I think so. This is wise advice.
Speaker 1It's all good.
Speaker 2All right, tell me why my principles and process is not as good as yours. No, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 1It's very similar actually. Okay, I clump my principles and my process together, so I didn't separate them out. And I don't know that I conscientiously that's what I'm looking for, conscientiously, as every decision I make, go through this list and go have.
Speaker 3I done. This have I done this?
Speaker 1Have I done this? It just becomes part of who you are and your decision-making process.
Speaker 2We're not encouraging people to. Should I go to McDonald's or Wendy's?
Speaker 1Well, let me pull out what Trent said Exactly.
Speaker 2Is there disobedience, right right?
Speaker 1right, but but at the same time, when you again, when you're practicing these things with everyday decisions, they help you when you get to the bigger decisions in life.
Speaker 1And so, um, my, my first step is just a daily attitude of striving to live for God's will, not my own. So waking up every day, going, god, your will be done in my life today, whatever you would want me to do, and so just having that attitude overarching everything. God, if I do this, is this because I'm selfish in this or because it's your will for my life? So, a daily attitude of just living for God's word. Secondly, just constant prayer, just being continually in prayer, and that's not necessarily stopping and praying over this particular decision, even though I think that's important. It's just an attitude of conversational prayer with God on a regular basis, so that when I'm having to make a decision, it is God, help me make the wise decision. God, what would you have me to do here? God, give me wisdom, send somebody into my life to speak into my life on this. So, just continual prayer. So attitude of God's will in my life, continual prayer.
Speaker 1Then weighing out my options, looking at okay, here's the decision I have to make if I choose this or if I choose this. A is going to lead me here. B is going to lead me here. Sometimes that's clear, sometimes it's not, but I need to understand. I'm very pragmatic. I need to understand. I will make lists to say this is what will be, this and this is what will be. So, pros and cons, pros and cons Of staying or going, staying or going, picking this, or picking this, buying or not buying, exactly so that's just kind of how my brain works. So sometimes I do that physically, sometimes I just do it mentally, but I'll weigh out my options, say okay, here it is, and then I seek God's word for wisdom. So does God's word speak directly into this decision? Is there a decision I'm making that God's word says this is what you should do to be in my will, and if you do this, you won't be. But God's word doesn't speak directly into every decision we make in our lives, but it does in principles and in decisions.
Speaker 2He does say white, black, silver, gray, matte, green, matte, tan, car it is in first opinions.
Speaker 1It's in there somewhere. So, daily attitude to living for God's word, continual prayer, weighing out options, biblical wisdom and then seeking godly counsel. You mentioned this one Wise men seek counsel. They just do one Um um. Wise men seek counsel, that they just do Um. Now you have to be careful. It has to be wise counsel.
Speaker 1That's right, you can get counsel from 20 fools and they all agree and you go oh, I'm going to follow those guys. Well, they're making a foolish decision. You need to seek wise counsel, so making making sure you have people in your life that can help you make those and perhaps even in areas where financial things that they understand more deeply than you do, having somebody in your life that you can call up and go hey, you're my guy on this, help me think through this. Or you're my girl on this, help me think through this.
Speaker 2So, godly counsel, even on practical matters. We might have someone in our church who knows about cars matters. You know, we might have someone in our church who knows about cars. So if you're buying a car, hey, um, I don't appreciate. I don't just appreciate your godly wisdom, but I appreciate what you've learned in your trade.
Speaker 3Help me out.
Speaker 1Sure yeah sure, darlene and I are going through the process of selling our house and buying a new home right now. We've done that six times, so it's not like it's the first time I've ever done it. I'm not getting surprised by things, but there are people in our church who do that every day, deal with those contracts every day. That's right, so I can call them up and say, hey, give me wisdom on this. This is what they're asking or this is what they're saying, give me wisdom on this. So godly counsel is important.
Speaker 1I'd say that, with spiritual decisions as well, not just practical decisions, finding people that you trust, then I would say make a determination. Make a decision, like you say, at some point, after you've waited all out, you've prayed, you considered, you sought counsel, you have to make a decision, you have to decide, and so make the determination. This is the way I'm going to go. And then the thing that I add that you didn't have in yours was own that decision. Once you've made the decision, go right Now. There are going to be times when you realize, oh, I made the wrong decision and you have to either repent of that or ask forgiveness for that or change because of that. But once you've made a decision, own it and go with it, don't dance around it.
Speaker 2Go with it. Indecision is a decision and it's a bad decision.
Speaker 1It is, and it's frustrating to those around you who are waiting for you to make decisions.
Speaker 2Yeah, he stared at me when he said that is, and it's frustrating to those around you who are waiting for you to make decisions. He stared at me when he said that he's very self-conscious.
Speaker 1He's probably talking about you.
Speaker 3You should probably take that to heart.
Speaker 1And then, finally, I have the same thing you did Trust God. Trust God that he's sovereign over all of it. Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean on your own understanding. He's going to direct your path anyway. So if you're doing all these other things and you're walking, striving to walk in God's will, god's sovereign over all these things. So I think it's important for everyone to practice decision making, to make good decisions, to make godly decisions. It's very important for leaders to be able to do that, because people are looking at you, going okay, we need to make this decision, help us walk through this process.
Speaker 1And not just make the decision for them, but help them walk through a process of decision making. And if you're not doing that in your own personal life, it's hard to do that and you're leading a group, leading a church, to do the same thing. That's right. That's right.
Speaker 2I think that last piece is so helpful Trust God, especially when you know, we talked to college students who may have found who they think is the person they're going to marry right and they're going through this process that sought wise counsel. They prayed for their future spouse. They have prayed for wisdom in whether this is the right time in their life and I think some college students expect there to be just like this formation of clouds that say the name of the person you're going to marry, a bright light behind them, that kind of thing, which I know that happened for you and Jaden.
Speaker 3It did.
Speaker 2Yeah, where just the clouds just formed and it said Jaden and put like a smiley face that looks really similar to him in the clouds.
The Process of Weighing Options
Speaker 2You took a picture of it? Show me. No, but that's not how the Lord works, right? He gave us godly people, he gave us his word, he gave us minds and he offers his wisdom right. Very few times are we going to have that pie in the sky moment. We can trust the Lord with what he's revealed to us, who he's surrounded us, with the mind he's given us that is renewed by his spirit, to make a decision without just living in fear that we're outside of his sovereignty in any given moment. Yeah, I think that's super helpful.
Speaker 1I think there's also wisdom in knowing that some decisions you don't need to think about. There are certain things that are just black and white. I shouldn't do this, so I don't really need to go through this process. That's why I had mine in principles Right. So if I'm living for God's will and this is clearly outside of God's will or this is against what God's written word says, against my conscience? Against my conscience.
Speaker 2Or there's maybe not a local church Exactly.
Speaker 1There are certain decisions that we don't have to. You know, if we are struggling with it, it's because it's in our own sin. Yeah, that's right, not just going okay, god, that's not what you have for me, that's not what's best for me, and even though selfishly I may want to pursue that right now, that's the wrong decision, so I'm going to go this way.
Speaker 2They shouldn't even make it in the process of consideration. Exactly you know those.
Speaker 3What would Jesus do? Bracelets, yeah, um, someone made a joke and I forget who it was, but they said what would Jesus do? Jesus probably wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. Probably, not, probably not.
Speaker 1I would also say, most of the time, um, when you have to make a decision, it's pretty rare that you get to that end of that process and it's just like crystal clear. You know 100%. This is the direction I need to go. Usually there's still some. If you're making a tough decision, there's still some. You know back and forth, but you just got to trust. Don't trust your gut, Don't don't do that, but just trust the, the, the research you've done, trust the counsel you've received, but just trust the research you've done, Trust the counsel you've received, Trust your conscience and, having talked to the Lord, and then just go, Just take the step.
Speaker 2Yeah, word church wisdom.
Speaker 1Take the step.
Speaker 2Yep Take the step. Well, thanks for listening. Hopefully this was helpful. We recorded an episode under 30 minutes, yay, I think we should celebrate.
Speaker 3Is there a cheers? Yeah, I got to find it.
Speaker 2Hold on. I always need to have this ready to go there. It is Under 30 minutes. Hey, thank you for listening in. That is the end of this episode.
Speaker 3Wait, do you want to know how I make decisions?
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Every day I call the church, I ask for whatever pastor is available, and I say bye.
Speaker 2Have a great day.
