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Season 3 Episode 12: Ordination Explained

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Welcome And Weather Whiplash

SPEAKER_02

Welcome everyone to the Unsexy Church Podcast. It's a ministry of First Baptist Church of Tampa, where our mission is to help you thrive and connect to a thriving life in Christ. As always, joined by Pastor Bob. How are you this morning? I'm good. How are you, sir? All right, man. And producer Extraordinaire. Back on mic this week, Mr. Jordan. Hello. Hello. Good to see you. Hey, good to see you. We were out yesterday in 80-degree weather, and we were doing door flyers to promote our VBS. 80 degrees, and Jordan is wearing a sweater. A sweater out. Not sweating while he was doing it. Oh my gosh. I don't know how you do it. I missed it. Oh my word. I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you do it. You're not going to like tomorrow. It's supposed to cool off. Oh no. All right. Just one day, and it's not bad. Listen to this. Yesterday in my hometown, Springfield, Missouri, it's kind of a first ever. They had it started out like 60. I think the high yesterday was 60 degrees. Um, and then the cold front comes in, you know, hot air, warm air, all meet. So tornado watch to tornado warning to snow squall warning. What? Like high winds, no visibility, heavy snow. Uh this morning. So it was 60 degrees yesterday. This morning it was 18 degrees with a feels like of negative one. Wow. Springtime in Missouri, man.

SPEAKER_01

That's why we live in Florida. Amen, brother. Don't talk to us during the hurricane season, but right now, this is why we live in Florida.

Old West Pardon And Payback

SPEAKER_02

We're living the dream, man. That's right. We're living the dream. Uh loving it, man. Loving it, man. So glad you guys are here today. So glad you've joined us on the Unsexy Church podcast. I've got a uh sometimes we call these fun facts. This one's uh not so fun, uh, but a fact. A not so fun fact of the day. Not so fun, man. On this day uh in uh in history, um gosh, I forgot to write down the year. I think it's 1886, if I remember correctly.

SPEAKER_01

It's gonna be right around there somewhere. And we're recording this on March the 16th. So you know what day we're talking about. Yeah. What so what year are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02

I think it's 1886. Man, I should have written it down.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna look it up when you say it.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, help me out. Help me look the same.

SPEAKER_01

The producer will fix your thank you.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you. The infamous gunslinger, John Wesley Harden, is pardoned after spending 15 years in a Texas prison for murder where he had a life sentence. Um you guys know who John Wesley Harden is? You ever heard of them? He's an infamous gunslinger. He's an infamous gunslinger. Pardoned 1894. 1894. Okay, I was totally wrong. But you were less than a developer. You are you're in the right century. I was in the right century. But this guy, starting at age 15, probably killed like 40 men in a six-year period. Uh just and one guy uh over he was snoring too loud in the room next to him.

SPEAKER_00

No, I can I can I have some way to mention here.

SPEAKER_02

I have some empathy. Don't let my wife hear this, man. Oh my gosh. No, he literally, like the guy next door next door to him in the hotel was uh snoring too loud. So he just fired two shots through the wall, and one of them inadvertently hit the guy and killed him. He was actually good friends with the sheriff of the town. You might recognize the sheriff, uh Abilene, Texas, Wild Bill Hick. Hickock. And uh, which my hometown has a connection to. He he had a gunfight, like a literal Old West gunfight in the middle of the streets uh over a watch uh in my hometown in Springfield. Yeah. It's just crazy. But anyway, this guy uh just notorious for just killing people, he was on the run all the time, from the time he was 15 years old to 21 years old. They think he killed probably about 40 people. Um the last one was actually in self-defense. Uh he got into an altercation with someone, you know, celebrating his 21st birthday. He got into an alter altercation with someone as as one does, I think. As one does, right, right sometimes. And um and the guy shot at him first, he shot back and killed him. But uh he instead of standing in trial, he uh he ran. And you know what state he went to? Florida. Yes, he went to Florida, yeah. Where he was tracked down, caught, extradited back to Texas, spent 15 years in prison. You know what he did after his uh pardon? What all good criminals do, they become lawyers. No, I'm just I'm just kidding. I'm kidding, all you lawyers out there. Just kidding. No, he did. He became a uh a lawyer, but then uh someone that he had uh killed earlier, one of that person's family members, tracked them down and shot him in the back. So yeah. Well they crime doesn't pay. What goes around comes around as a bigger one?

SPEAKER_01

Crime doesn't pay, man. Why did he get pardoned in the first place? I I know I ask you questions, you don't know I have answered.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know the answer to that one. Yeah, I don't I don't I wish I'd have done more research, but it's I I I love like old West uh outlaws. I don't know why, man. I just I think like I said, you know, Bill While Bill Hilcock Hill Hickcock had a kind of a thing in my hometown, and then in Missouri, you know, he's there Missouri, especially up north, uh it's all about Jesse James, man, right and and those guys. And so I don't know, it's just interesting to me. Very interesting. I used to listen to a a podcast called Heroes and Villains of the Old West. And they every once in a while listen to it again, but man, you just find out crazy stuff.

SPEAKER_01

They did some crazy things back in the and there's oftentimes when like White Earp was a lawman and then broke the law. I'll Bill Hilcock, he's a sheriff, and he's a gunslinger. I mean, you don't know.

Weekend Highlights And Church Plant Update

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you just it's very uh very loose, very loose. Yeah, that's today's fun fact. Yeah, fun. Very interesting. Fun, very interesting. There you go. Hey, we had a great weekend here at FBC Tampa. Um we start like every podcast by saying we had a great weekend at the at the church. It was really cool. I mean, it this uh started Saturday starts with uh a wedding. Um wasn't at the church necessarily, but it was our church, it was our church folks. Um Ada and Anica Maceal, if I can say you can bleed that out later if I need to not say names, but they got married and we all celebrated with them. That was super cool. And one of the things that happened, uh, they met and they didn't meet meet in our college ministry, but they were both participants in our college ministry here in FBC Tampa back when Pastor Trent was next gen pastor and not church planning pastor. So he came back and performed the wedding ceremonies. We got to have Pastor Trent in our service Sunday, gave us an update on Redeemer City. Those of you who are new listeners, Pastor Trent used to be our next gen pastor, and now he is in Knoxville, Tennessee, where we've sent him with some other folks from Tampa to plant a church there. And so he he came back, gave us an update, some exciting things happening there. Um looks like they may get a permanent building, possibly. I don't want to, I mean, we don't want to count our chickens before they hatch, right? But uh that sounds very, very promising.

SPEAKER_01

It does sound promising. Yeah, there's a lot of good things going on, a lot of new uh folks coming into covenant membership there, and the church is growing. They've started the campus ministry on University of Tennessee's campus, and then this possibility of uh possible merger with another church that has some facilities, and um so that's great. Very good. Yeah, very very cool.

SPEAKER_02

Well, we are uh the Unsexy Church podcast, and so we're coming up with probably the the most unsexiest topic we can come up with.

SPEAKER_01

Because next Monday we're gonna get on and we're gonna say we had a great weekend at First Baptist Church, and part of it was part of it is our ordination service.

SPEAKER_02

There you go. That's right. Exactly right. What in the world is what does that word mean, ordination? What is an ordination service?

What Ordination Means For Churches

SPEAKER_01

What are we talking about? So next Sunday night we are ordaining three deacons, and we're ordaining uh Ben as a pastor of the gospel ministry. So ordination is just a public recognition of God's call on the life of a leader in the church, right? So it's just the church visibly and solemnly recognizing that God has set people apart for a specific role in the church. So it's it's a service designed to do that. God calls them and the church kind of recognizes it and then commissions them. Yeah, no, exactly.

SPEAKER_02

So um I was gonna ask the question and you kind of answered it, but I I think it's even broader than this. Who is this, who what is who is this service for, right? We have three men that we're ordaining as deacons, and then one man that we're ordaining as a as a pastor, recognizing that, but it's it's for more than just those guys, right? It's not just for them and their spouses, um, it's for the whole church. Why why is that?

SPEAKER_01

Darren and I did not talk before we came in today, so I don't know where zero prep.

SPEAKER_02

We do zero prep.

SPEAKER_01

Zero zero show prep. Um so I I would say um it's for the church. So principles of of of uh ordination services for me. They are kingdom-minded, meaning when we look in the Bible, which is where we should always go for our examples, you can see God setting people apart for particular purposes. You see it in the Old Testament with men like Joseph, with men like Moses, right, uh with Saul as the king, although God would not have chosen Saul, he allowed the people to choose Saul. But um you see it with um the the priests setting apart for a particular role within within his uh within his work. Um you see with the judges, and then you move into the New Testament, you begin to see that God calls out certain people. You know, he calls out uh Saul, he calls out Barnabas from Antioch and sends them on missionary journeys. And then you see them appointing uh elders or pastors in local churches. And so it's it it's kingdom-minded in the sense that God says there are two offices within the church, deacon and elder, pastor, bishop, whichever title you want to. Whichever overseer. It's the same, all the same word. Um, that God has set apart and said, I want you to lead out in my church. And so it's kingdom-minded in the sense that God says, I have a kingdom and I need organization within my kingdom, and I need people to lead within my kingdom. And so He He calls people calls people out. More directly to answer your question, it's local church focused. Yeah. So these folks are called out not randomly, they're called out through the local church, where the local church observes people living their their gospel life, uh, walking with Christ, serving, and then they see God has called this person and uniquely equipped them, they're qualified, and so the church calls them out. So it's while it's kingdom-minded, it starts at the local church and goes from there. Uh, and then finally, I'd say it's Holy Spirit led. So it is, it's not us saying that we think you have these gifts. It's the spirit that gifts them, and then we just realize those gifts within their life. Yeah.

Why Ordination Is For Everyone

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it it's I think it's important to understand that. I mean, the the church body, the local church congregation, will have an active role in what happens at the ordination service Sunday. Yes. Um, Sunday evening. They've had it up leading into that service as well, right? Exactly, exactly. Right. So, um, so we've kind of talked about the ordination service, who's it who's it for. Um, how do we so we we talk about these men that we see uh that we're going to order ordain? How do we recognize um the the the gifting, if you will, uh to serve in these capacities? How do we know these are the men that we want to be in these roles? Sure.

SPEAKER_01

So uh I would say observation. We're we're observing, we're we're seeing what God is doing. What kind of things are we looking for? So I would say three things. Um there may be more. I would I would kind of lump them into these three categories. One would be a clear sense of call that the individual understands, yes, this is God's call on my life to be used by him in this particular task. So a clear sense of call. I would also then say biblical qualification. Right. Right. So just because you want to serve in a role doesn't mean you're qualified to serve in a role, right? Um so looking in the Bible for what are the qualifications for pastors, what are the qualifications for deacons? Uh 1 Timothy chapter 3, yeah, uh verses 1 through 7 is the qualification for the elder or the pastor, 8 through 13 qualifications for the deacons. Yep. Uh Titus 1, 5 through 9, uh, and then Acts 6, of course, for for deacons as well.

SPEAKER_02

So what's interesting, the qualifications, there's really only one difference between qualifications between of a deacon and a and a uh pastor. Pastor Elder. Yeah. And that's able to teach. Right. Right. I mean so interesting.

SPEAKER_01

And and the qualifications are more characteristics than they are abilities. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02

So we're looking for character. Right. Yeah. So some of the things, some of the qualifications there are uh just being gentle, right? Uh being uh manager manager of your own house, uh exercising self-control. I mean, I'm not gonna give the exhaustive above reproach, but yeah, good reputation. Yeah, respectful, yeah, hospitable. Yeah. So we're we're looking for folks who match these characteristics, right?

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So so the three things sorry No, it's okay. Clear sense of call, biblical qualification, and then thirdly, I would say there's a theological examination. So there's a there's a questioning before we take them before the church and say we we we we support this person, we see God's call in their life, we we examine them to see what they think, what they believe. We examine them by flogging bright lights and bamboo shoots.

SPEAKER_02

It was literally called the interrogation when I was when I was ordained, that that that portion was called the interrogation. Oh wow. That's intense. It was. They like turn the lights down, you know, and you're just like, oh gosh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So there's usually typically a uh ordination council that takes place prior to the service. Yeah. Uh with our deacons, that that council is our ordained deacons. With our somebody like Ben who's who's coming into gospel ministry, it's ordained men within within the church or in uh area churches, right? So it's uh just a time where they can sit down and examine the individual and ask them questions. What do you believe about the Bible? What do you believe about sin? What do you believe about salvation? Who is Jesus? Share your testimony. Uh just so we we know that they are on the same page theologically.

Call Character And Doctrinal Examination

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. So we were looking for men that are that are uh they have a this holy ambition to serve, right? They you know they they have a fire in their belly, if you will, to to preach or teach, or just to serve the church and see the gospel go into all the world. And then not only that, we're looking for folks have the character to match that, um, that that would accompany that, you know, and then and then we're uh um examining them, if you will, interrogating them, if you will, right? Just make exam make sure that they understand the gospel, make sure that we're on the same page the theologically. Yeah, yeah, that's good stuff. Um so maybe let's just let's just kind of talk about what happens. We've hit on a little bit, but what happens in ordination service for those who've never heard of one or been to one or just you know, what what you have just have never participated, what what what can they expect when they come to the ordination service? I I think they're really cool. I love them.

SPEAKER_01

I I uh yeah, I I remember my own. Um I I was more emotional than I thought it would be in my own. Just a sense of just a sense of burden. Weight just weight that was that was on you. W-E-I-G-H-T. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Back then I wasn't very heavy, so it wasn't that kind of weight. No, I was not weight of responsibility. I've grown in many ways since then. Um but yeah, the weight of responsibility and just the humbling of God, you're calling me to do this. I I I I don't deserve this. So um it it's really cool for me to see this and get to be a part of that. So it's really a worship time where we're we're we're we're worshiping God. So in a typical, what we would do is there's a time of worship, there's a time of proclamation, there'll be a a charge to the um candidates from scripture. It'll there'll be a charge to the church to support these that we've called out. Yeah. Um typically there is a time where those candidates just share their testimony quickly, introduce their families. Um and then there's a time of prayer.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um and and that time of prayer it's gonna look a little different. It looks a little different. Yeah, yeah. We usually have them either kneel or sit in a chair up front, and then all the ordained men come by and do what we call laying on of hands. And that sounds really weird, but it's it's basically just putting your hand on their shoulder or on their head. Um, and we're not conferring any kind of power upon them. We're not um we're not conferring any kind of gifts into them by doing that. Right. We're just recognizing what God's done and we're praying, and there is a sense where we're transferring that trust and responsibility for the gospel to them. So there is that sense of that laying on of the hands from one who has taken on that burden, that that responsibility, that, that, that privilege of saying, You're coming along and taking this along now as well. So there's a period where we're there's just a solemn time of prayer where where men come by and just pray over each one of the candidates.

What Happens In The Service

SPEAKER_02

And that's it's a really beautiful time. Yeah. So when we get together, we're going to we're gonna read some scripture together, we're going to hear the scripture preached, we're gonna we're gonna sing, uh, we're gonna pray together in in a couple different ways, and just it is a sweet, sweet time, I think, man. Just uh uh and it's and a solemn time. It's a little more solemn than some of some of our other things that that that that we would do. Um I kind of look at uh I like Acts 13 when when Paul and Barnabas are are sent out, right? They uh we we kind of try to model and we've kind of hit on the all these things, but the first thing is we understand when we ordain someone is God is the one or the spirit is the one who does the calling and the equipping, right? He he calls men and he equips them with gifts of teaching or gifts of service, gifts of leading, right? And then not you so you have that, so they have the desire, and then you see uh the church in Acts chapter 13 recognizing those gifts and recognizing that calling in uh in in men's lives, and that's what we're going to do. That's what we uh we've already done to a certain degree, we're going to do that formally uh during the ordination service. We um it's not like God has called them already, we're recognizing God's calling and his gifting in in in in in in their life, right? And I think it should be it those gifts will be apparent, right? Uh you know, when we look for for guys um to to serve in this capacity, we're looking for people that are already doing these things, right? Right? We're looking for we're looking for deacons who are already deaconing. Right? Yeah, they're they're already serving. That they're not waiting for an office or a title, right, you know, or any kind of attention. Uh they're already just pouring their lives out for the gospel and for and for and and for Christ.

SPEAKER_01

So Yeah, I would say those are the first two steps that you've just articulated. There's the recognition of God's call on somebody's life. Yeah. And then there's the church reinforcing that or reiterating that into that person's life, saying, we see these gifts in you. You're utilizing the gifts. We recognize these.

SPEAKER_02

Is that let me ask you this is that the order it should go in? Uh you know what I mean? Uh like what was it like for you when you know when you were coming up, when you were you felt called into ministry? Sure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I I think it should go that order. I I think there should be a personal recognition that God has called us to this, and then there's the reinforcement. Now, I I will say that that God used people along the way to reinforce his call on my life just by saying, Hey, I I recognize these gifts in you, or I've seen this, or have you ever considered this? I think God can use you in this way. So it can be simultaneous, but but but the call comes first, and then God reiterates that call through the That's exactly when I mean I had people recognize gifts in me before I knew that I uh you know had.

SPEAKER_02

them really and and give me opportunities and and give me feedback and training and and uh and those kind of things but they recognized it be probably before I really I mean I think I had an inkling but I man I just I don't know they recognized some things in me before I did and so yeah that's super cool.

SPEAKER_01

But that was that's how God helped you to respond to the call exactly to to accept the call. Right. So I I don't see this in me but other people do. Yeah yeah and that's how God uses that so there's that recognition there's that reinforcement tool and then there's the examination of the church to say that can I say one other thing.

SPEAKER_02

I just want to kind of hit on this real quick. I think it's important especially for guys who are considering am I called because I think we've had some experience with this a little bit and I've had in in other places it's important you may feel called but if the church is not recognizing that in you it may not be the right time or maybe you're misunderstanding what God's saying. Absolutely right I mean it I think the church's affirmation and recognition in a in a individual's life of these gifts and this calling is is imperative. Right.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah yeah well as you look at the the the calling in the in the scriptures of the deacons right he says set aside for me people that you see who are who fit these qualifications. So it's a matter of the church saying I see these things in you and if they don't see those things in you they're not going to put your name forward.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think you ever see anyone and correct me if I'm wrong I don't think you ever see anyone in scripture who just takes it upon themselves I'm gonna go start this ministry or I'm gonna go you know apart from the recognition of the local church and the setting apart of the and the blessing if you will of the local church.

SPEAKER_01

I think you see people who are using the gifts that God's given them and then the church comes alongside them to build those gifts, educate those gifts Apollos comes to mind gifted preacher didn't know everything and so God uses uses the local church uses uses the local church to to hone those gifts. So yeah I nobody you don't call yourself to ministry. Exactly right God calls and then that's why I say it's local church focused because it does come through the local church. The local church has to identify it. Yeah you're not ordained you you just can't ordain yourself online I guess there probably are website you can now but but I think you go online and get and you two for$9.99. Which is not offensive to us at all. No no but yeah you're not ordaining yourself you're the church is recognizing God's call in your life and and and examining you and setting you apart for for those particular things.

SPEAKER_02

I just think that's important because in in especially in the American church we're so individualistic more so than than other other places. I think it's super important that we submit ourselves to the to the authority of the local congregation. Yeah. So anyway yeah so the like you said the the two things uh we see this desire this calling from the Holy Spirit on individuals and then we see the church recognizing those gift that gifting and that that desire and that and that and they affirm that and then we what happens next?

Call First Then Church Affirms

SPEAKER_01

Well there's this formal setting apart right there's this formal setting apart where we examine then we present to the church in our church's situation we ask for for hey is there anybody in the church that you see filling this role so we receive names from the church then we examine them then we bring them back to the church right we pray over them so this process of a formal ordination of formal which you know don't go looking around trying to find the word right look for the principle of what is what is done um that we see in throughout scripture so that there's this which I think is helpful. Yeah again back to the local church you don't just ordain yourself a local church recognizes that then as God moves you around another local church can say okay there was a church there was a body of believers who's examined this gentleman who's examined this person uh observed their life seen that God has called them into this ministry.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah in Acts 13 right after the church recognizes these men and their gifts they they lay hands on them they pray over them they're over through fasting right they affirm this right and and they they send them out and the church and the spirit send send sends them out send them out. Exactly that's what that's all we're trying to do in ordination service is is help people see that see that process in in someone's life.

SPEAKER_01

The final thing I'd say about an ordination service and just the ordination process from a local church is after we've recognized and we've reiterated and then we've done this public call, there ought to then be uh continual prayer but then supporting the person who's in the ministry coming alongside them and saying okay God has has gifted you in leadership God has gifted you in these areas so we're gonna follow and we're gonna support and we're gonna love now when you when you step aside we'll we'll we'll correct you but sure we're gonna support you in in in what we see God doing in your life.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah so it's interesting you know it's so funny to just different how the way you know different churches at different times have do ordination services differently. Right. So did did you have an ordination council prior to the service or was it part of the service?

SPEAKER_01

Mine was prior yeah which is the example I've seen mostly is it's I mean it's immediately prior but it's it it is prior to the service.

Ordination Stories And Different Formats

SPEAKER_02

So I've seen guys where they go through you know months of stuff right you know and then like mine like the interrogation is part of the ordination service. Okay. Yeah it and so it was a little it was scary it was a little scary like and it was really formal like we dressed up in suits they had got it was me and one other gentleman were on stage and the ordination counsel was all on the front row in suits staring up at you. Sure sure they've got the lights down except for they've got lights in your eyes so you can't really see what's going on out there. I'll just I'll never forget this this probably probably tells too much of who I am but uh they uh they asked this this is me and this guy named Randy and and the the pastor now he had pre I will say we'd gone through some prepping right yeah just to make sure it wasn't cold right yeah it wasn't cold yeah right yeah and so um but you never know if you throw it out there anybody can ask anything that's the thing they they they will they'll you know our pastor did most of the interrogating sure uh but then at the end he's like do you guys have any questions for him you know and it's like and fortunately no one had any questions but one one uh question the way he phrased it I was able to uh kind of be smart and uh he he said uh he said now and he's you just gotta know this guy he's very intelligent graduated from high school at 16 um and went to college was done by 18 Hebrew major I mean but he talks like he's from the sticks and and he is actually but he's very intelligent right so it's now you boys um do you fellas just have one wife and I just and I I just looked at him I said brother Charles we have two and that kind of for me that broke the I was so nervous I was so scared man but uh I don't know did you see any crazy stuff in ordination services have you ever seen anyone like challenge it or say no I haven't personally I mean I've heard sports by the time you get to that point it should be pretty well we vetted pretty well exactly you're not presenting somebody at that point that you're like oh I didn't know they believed that um at least you should yeah you better you better know that should be the process.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah no I don't remember I remember my ordination council um I I have my on my ordination certificate all the council members signed it to sign it so that's that's cool for me to look back from time to time and and remember those guys because I had a relationship with them in ministry and so it's it's it's helpful. But I don't remember a single question that the other than I I'm sure they asked me my testimony and what I believed about the Bible, those things. But I I don't re I don't remember specific questions. Yeah I was so nervous I think that's about the only question I remember the one I just shared. What what year was yours? Do you remember? Uh yeah give me just a second I have to do the math he's not been good on years this this podcast 1891 it was 1990.

Invitation To Attend And Closing

SPEAKER_02

Okay 1990 90 or 91 I gotta remember how it was ninety it was ninety yeah gosh good memories it was it was good so we're looking forward to Sunday night sunday night's gonna be really cool with if you've been on the fence about whether you should come or not I mean you ought to come yeah I mean you're part of the local church you're the one who is uh setting you know helping recognize and set these people apart for the gospel ministry man it's just I think it's real important it's a great night of worship and it's another way to see God at work in our lives in our church. Yeah yeah all right with that being said don't forget give us a five star rating write us a review share it helps the podcast get out there send us your questions anything you want an unsexy take on this is a place and as always stay unsexy

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