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Welcome to Proximity with Ken Jocelyn. I am Ken Jocelyn, your host, founder of GrowStack Drive, and everything we do here is driven by one mission. To help one million faith-based entrepreneurs become the best version of themselves in what we call our Core Five framework: faith, health, relationships, business, and finances. Here's the truth that most people miss. Your life does not move in the direction of your intentions, it moves in the direction of your proximity. Who you're near matters. Who you listen to matters. And the rooms that you choose to enter matter probably more than you know. This podcast is built on the principles from my book, The 14 Frequencies of Proximity, where I break down the internal frequencies you must develop to attract the right relationships, gain clarity, and step into the next level that God has for your life. You'll hear real conversations with faith-driven entrepreneurs, leaders, and high performers, many of them voices from Create, the number one faith-based entrepreneur conference in America, that I host right here in Atlanta every single year in January. This isn't about hustle culture. This isn't motivation for the moment. This is about alignment, discipline, and becoming the person your future requires. If you're ready to grow in your Core Five framework and get closer to the people and environments that accelerate your growth, you're in the right place. Talk a little bit about Michael. I told Michael today when I saw him, I said, bro, you look like you ready to strap a football helmet on and just jack somebody up. Talk a little bit about InvestFest, Michael, the vision. Because some of you guys in here, your business, you're starting, you have this dream, and you're like, what does it take to navigate to be able to get to where Michael and then this year you had just over how many people at Invest Fest?

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A little over 25,000.

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A little bit over 25,000. Some of the top speakers, Steve Harvey, Magic Johnson, some of the top speakers in the world there. Talk to me about relationships and how you guys leverage. Number one, how did you leverage relationships to even start earn your leisure and the podcast stuff that you guys are doing?

SPEAKER_00: 2:15

Well, it's funny. Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Great question. Great question. Great question. Great question. Well, I will say is, you know, I like I work with a lot of clients and they always want to, they have all these ideas, right? And they want to start so many different things. And I tell them to build their tree, build the tree first, build the most important thing to their heart, right? And that's what that's what we did with Ernie Leisure. We built the most important thing was a podcast, literally, just a regular podcast with two iPhones, dinky microphones, and we built the podcast. And we noticed something. We noticed that we meet these very, very special people that no one knew. And we built relationships with them. Now, when you build a relationship, it takes a little, you know, hey, how you doing? When is when something's not going on? Adding value to the person's life, you know, not always asking for something. That is important about building relationships. I think everybody's on a what can you do for me, right? Where we we led with how can we help you? What can we do to make your life better? Is it anyone we know that we can connect you with? Things like that. Like Steve Harvey, how we got Steve Harvey, and that Steve Harvey became a partner with Investfest. We went to his house, which his house is in Atlanta. It's craziest, it's it's the most unbelievable.

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Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. My buddy Steve Smith did all his tech stuff in his house, all these all these LED walls and studio and all that. It just don't even make sense.

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It don't even make sense. And we go to his house and we we sit down with him for about an hour and a half. Didn't even shoot the podcast. We're just talking about life, business, and and that goes to show you. We went there and we we didn't just leave, we're just shooting the podcast. We tried to make a relationship right from the start. And he didn't treat us like he didn't treat us like a bit, like a business dealing. He treated us with, you know, like a like people, right? So we came back and we acted like people and we we spoke with him. We had a a cognac with him, you know. It was it was a it was a really a good, it was a it was a good time to just chill, relax, and get to understand, you know, the things he wanted, the things we wanted, and how we could help each other.

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And then we shot Let me ask you, let me ask you a couple questions in that because I'm gonna go back to the very beginning of what you said. Because your podcast now, how many subscribers, how many episodes downloaded on your podcast?

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Through, I mean 500, 700 million, something like that, almost so a billion. But you know, we've had we have over like four or five million throughout our platform.

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So that's a lot. Would anybody agree? That's a lot of people. And what, but did you notice what he said at the very beginning? We were gonna do a podcast and he verbatim what he said, two iPhones and two dinky microphones. Like you didn't wait until you had a studio that looks like this. Absolutely not. We're gonna go do it and figure it out. Walk us through, and I know this necessary, we're gonna lean into relationships, but walk us through that decision that you guys that you guys made, Michael, to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00: 5:18

So the cool thing about us is that you know, one my partner, my business partner, Rashad. Rashad, he wanted to be the number one financial advisor, right? And in order to do that, you gotta create content, you gotta have have great content that has some some type of depth to it, some context to it. You gotta do whatever, right? You gotta intrigue the people to want more. And it it was like two years, it was two years just working with just directly with him, building his social brand, and it got to like 40,000 followers, and then people started saying, Let's shoot a podcast, let's shoot. Why don't you shoot a podcast? Why don't you shoot a podcast? Shoot a podcast, we need a podcast. Because the thing about social media is it's a very short amount of information that you can provide in a short amount of time. So we needed a platform where we can speak a little longer, and that platform was our podcast. So that's when we we we started the podcast. Now we but but but what I'm trying to get to at this point is we listen to what the people wanted. A lot of times, people want to do what they want. We listen to what the people wanted, and we already had an audience because they all wanted it. So it was like, do we wait? Because that was on our mind. Do we wait and and put our money together and get nice cameras, nice lights, or or we just put it out? What is what is success love? Anyone know? Is it a success loves speed? And I'll tell you, one of the biggest things about earning leisure was timing. If we would have waited a year to get our money up and to start to get the best cameras, there will you would not know earning allegiance today. So we say, listen, we got some iPhones, which are great phones, it's probably iPhone 10 at the time, iPhone 9, whatever it was. And it and then we had some we had like$30 microphones, literally,$30 microphones from a place called Radio Shack. Some of y'all may know Radio Shack. Radio Shack. Come on, bro, you're dating yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and then we just it was like, we know this is the time. We'll just worry about, we'll just put all the money we make from the podcast, if we make any money, and you know, get one. We literally, literally, literally, literally, we got one mic at a time. Because we eventually got like four mics. We got one mic at a time as we got the money, and then we got one camera at a time. And the first camera was the middle camera. So everybody was, you know, this, you know, it brings back some great memories, but we was traveling, but literally one at a time. We didn't, we didn't, we didn't just think about what we didn't have, we worked with what we had, and that's the most important thing about any success.

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We didn't think about what we didn't have, we worked with what we do have.

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Correct.

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Didn't think about what we didn't have, guys. I think the number one thing I love, my favorite Jim Rohn quote, you'll see it at you'll hear it at Create. It's actually printed in the in the workbook for create on the business section is from Jim Jim Rohn. Speed increases focus. The faster you move in the direction, you just said it. I thought you said something else. That's why I said clues. I thought you said success leaves. You said success loves speed, success and I learned that from Grant Cardone big time. But that Jim Rohn quote, speed increases focus. The more I move in the direction that I know God's called me to, the more things come clear. Because, dude, Michael, I I look back, dude. If I could show you what my podcast studio looked like in my house here five years ago or four years ago, bro, it was atrocious. I mean, it was terrible. So we're talking about relationships tonight. Walk me through some of the conversation that you guys had together that kind of strengthened and built because you're talking about hundreds of millions of podcast downloads, 25,000 people every this past year at your Invest Fest conference, relationships with guys like Magic Johnson, Steve Harvey, all those. Tell me about some of the conversations inside the three of you with the three of you guys, the partners in Earn Your Leisure. What are some of the conversations that you guys had to build and strengthen your relationship so you guys could build what you built?

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One of the most important conversations we had was no matter what, what are we doing this for? So this is early on. We we we determined we're doing this to impact people, to help people. Let me bring my uh camera up here. We were doing this to help people, to change people's lives, give people information that we we weren't prevy to, and and just spread our community with knowledge that was just just we just didn't know. Like I'm 38 at 38, and I'm not 38, but at 38 years old, I just learned options, like option trading. Many people may not know, but that's something that's been around for years. But I'm learning at 38 years old, which I was at a disadvantage. So so that was the first core thing was that was the first core thing of our of our thing. So whether we get big, whether we make a lot of money, just remember what we're doing it for. And I think that's what people lose. People, you know, start off and they and they become very hot huge, hugely successful, and they and they forget what they were doing it for. Another thing is when you start making a lot of money, don't forget what got you there. A lot of times, people make a lot of money and they and they forget what got them there. So those are the two principles that we live by. We're always gonna have an earn your leisure free podcast, and we're always gonna remember why we're doing this podcast. And those are the two things that I think kept like will keep us together and keep us strong and keep us successful.

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I love that. The relationships that you guys have built, because you know, we always talk about, and I've even, you know, you even heard it's hard to do business with partners. What how how did you guys navigate that? I mean, because now everybody sees a success, but they didn't see the journey that you guys took to build and strengthen the relationships that you have. How what are some of the things you guys do?

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Well, I gotta work for you. I gotta, I gotta even better. People say don't do business with friends. That's right. How about this? I've known these guys my whole almost my whole entire life. My brother is best friends with with one of my partners' sisters, with both of my partner's sisters. So just that that tells you alone, right? So the good thing, and I always say do business with friends and family. Like you trust, that's the first thing you trust, right? It's hard to do business with people that you don't know because you have to trust them. But so we had that most important element in inside of our our our our our partnership that we trusted each other, regardless or not, we trusted each other. So that was the first thing. The second thing is we've done a lot of businesses together with us, us three, plus other friends around, and we realized like that we we still wanted to build something. We were still you know eager to be successful in something, right? But but also the third thing is we realized our strengths. That was the that was the thing that a lot of people don't realize. Like they put their friends in positions that they were going to fill before they even started. We put each of us in position to to shine where we shine. So I'm in a media, I'm in great, I'm great in media. I dealt with the media. Rashad is great with communication, Troy was great with relationships. We create we created a puzzle with three different pieces that all brought something different to the to the to the company, and that's I think that's what happens with friends and family. They just want to put them on just because we didn't do that, we partnered strategic strategically, and and and we and we we we had roles for exactly what we were great at, and that's why I think we were very successful.

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How did you guys handle conversations when somebody got out of their lane?

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Well, you know, respect is a very important thing. You gotta resp you gotta have respect, right? Respect is a very important thing, and I think that's what we always have. We have respect between one one another, and we would never you know talk disrespectfully to somebody or or each other. So we we we always kept a line of respect, but but again, you gotta remember we're we're not just we're not friends, we're like brothers, so it's different, right?

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Now, so brothers, because dude, I don't have any i I've got two older brothers, two younger sisters. Do we fight like crazy? So when you fight, how do you how do you navigate that?

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Well, at the end of the day, what was the first thing I said? What was the first thing I said?

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Your brothers.

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No, no, no. In the beginning, why why we why we remember what we started for, and when we got when we got into when we got into arguments with either me and them, them and them, whatever, whatever it was, you know, you know what the the common word was it's bigger than us. That was the that was how we just kept it moving because it was bigger than which it is. We're in like eight, nine different countries, right? So you know, we've done events in eight or nine different countries. It's not about Troy, Rashad, and Michael anymore. It's it's about the world, changing the world. So we're delivering a message that needs to be heard.

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What did you do internally, Michael, to walk because it's easy to be humble when you haven't done anything? How do you because you and I have spent a lot of time together over the past couple months. How do you maintain that level of humility in your heart with partners when you start achieving the level of success that you guys have?

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Well, I I think I personally think that you are who you are. Money just amplifies who you are. I think I'm a loving person, I'm a family-oriented person, I love people, I love, I love just being at home. I love my family, I love my wife. And you know, the most important thing is I talk to God when I have, you know, conflict with anyone, right? And I and I ask God to give me the strength, give me the vision, give me the the discipline, give me the wisdom to let me let me move in his light. And I think every time that I ever have conflict, that's where I go to. And he helps me with anything, everything in life's life he helps me with. So I think that's the most the core of the core of me is is my faith in God and and knowing that he put me here for a reason, and I'm and I'm just trying to make him proud and make my family proud. And that that's I mean that that's that's that's it. I mean, that's what I that's how I move. And the hum I'm uh I I come from nothing, you know what I'm saying? So it's like it doesn't like this is just the physical the physical stuff is just it can come and go, you know. If I if they took everything away from me, I'll be starting from where I was started from. But you know, the most important thing is family, family and my my kids, my friends, my wife. That's the most important thing. Like this.

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Relationships. What would you say? What would you say to somebody out there, Michael, who's listening tonight, who watches, who's watched what you're doing, may not even know what you're doing at the level of success. They're like, dude, I don't have relationships like the guys you did this with. I don't have those. What are some things that you would say to somebody like, how can they build those kind of relationships? How can they go out and find those types of relationships?

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How can you find relationships like I have? I mean, I think that's gonna be pretty hard because I have relationships. I'm still best friends with the kids I was in the city. It's a term called sandbox, right? I'm still friends with the kids that that I play with in the sandbox.

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But there's something there's something in you, Michael, that that that keeps you there. That that because you you grew up in New York City. There's something that keeps you there. There's something that there is some kind of there's something in you the parents put in you, family, there's something in you.

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I mean, it takes you. My brothers, my brothers, we're we're we sweet, we have a call every morning as long as I can remember. You know, my my mom definitely I don't know what she did, how she did. I pray I could do it with my kids, but like I love my my brothers, my sister, I love them unconditionally. Like, I I couldn't imagine life without them. And even when I lost my sister, it was just like it was it was so hurtful because we're all close, right? We can we can like not see each other, but when we see each other, we're like it's like we never left. So I think I think that's that's gotta give all credit to my mom. She definitely created like like the relate really and growing up in a project. I mean, you know, it was a small, it was a small project, but we were all like in all these houses and all close to each other. So we just, you know, we were all we had, you know. It was times when I got into fights and people would, you know, my friends would help like if someone stops you from getting beaten, oh yeah, you gotta, you know, you're gonna have an attachment with them forever, stuff like that. You know, it's like and and it's little things like that, but like as a new man, like as a new a man here in Atlanta, I think I think what helps what helps me, I start to see there, like it's it's kind of hard for me because I do know people just want to be my friend just because of you know my assets, the thing that I can bring to the table, you know. So I have to be very like tread lightly on who I am close with.

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Wisdom. It's wisdom.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100% wisdom. Because, you know, everyone, everyone has a as a alternative, right? Everyone, everyone has a ulterior motive. Ulterior motive, right? And and I have to, I have to to really like see what's what are they genuine, you know? Is it a genuine person? Is it somebody that really wants to be my friend because I'm a cool guy, which I am, or if they just want to be my friend because they want to get from get something from me. So it is it's it's more it's much harder. That's why I'm just best friends with my wife and my kids.

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Good. They talk about Michael. Talk about because you you mentioned that you know, we got connected. Uh Tyler connected us. Tyler is a I I told my team today. So we should be dude, bro. I mean, this guy is a I I mean, I'm a connector. This dude is like next level connector, yeah. You know, had him on the line. I didn't know you were there, Tyler. Good. I'm glad I didn't say what I was gonna say about you because that that's top secret. That's top secret for me and the team. But talk, talk to me about that side of it, Michael. When you meet people, you're building relationships with people. I literally like live my life motto is that great leaders want something for people, not from people. That's talk to me about that, Michael. Cause that because literally, like that is that is who you are. And I knew it within 10 minutes of us having lunch together.

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No, no, and I appreciate that. Thank you. And and but just think about me, right? I come over your house, you grill up some ribs, and we're gonna sit down, we're gonna talk, we're gonna, you know, connect even more. you know you know i got a you know i got a traeger on the back porch right i grill up the best ribs you've ever had bro i'm there i'm there but but it's dope you know we're we we're building we're we're in a building a relationship right yeah i'm i'm gonna start to talk to you more you start to talk to me more it it it it started from like we're not trying to take anything from nobody we're just building up what was the the first thing you said to me whatever i could do for you whatever how i can help you i'm here for you brother right like it's not it's not what i what what can you do for me and i think if you start off a relationship on what can you do for me you're starting off on a bad foot i think more so is how can you help that person that comes in your life that's how any relationship should start trying to help somebody trying to help somebody and not trying to see how they can help you and a lot of times you know especially when people get you know famous or rich and well whatnot they start they start to you know feel like what is this person he can't do nothing for me and that's not the way to that's not the way to move and you could have easily did that right because you're successful you have a great great life you don't need you don't need for anything right why you want more people coming to you because that's who you are you're a relationship driven person you want to help people you want to do whatever you can do for people and that's why you continue to be successful yeah I love that jessica said if you're faithful in the little things you'll be faithful in the large things Luke 16 10 I love that that is one of my favorite scriptures stewardship we talk a lot about on here let me ask you if you guys have got questions I'd love we got a couple more minutes with Michael if you've got questions I'd love for you we're gonna pull Henry and Taryn in next Steve Harward stuck on a call so Henry and Taryn I think you're listening to me we're gonna pull you in in just a minute um if you've got questions for Michael I'd love for you to put those in the chat real quick that'd be great or if you've got questions you want to ask you raise your hand on the uh little on the little window thingy where you can raise your hand I'd love to pull you in on this too talk about Michael the the power where you're at right now and when I say proximity is a cheat code to you and that those relationships are a cheat code what does that mean to you proximity is power I mean you know we were in the right place at the right time you know I I we're not we're not special there's nothing special about us it's just that we we worked hard the timing was right and we were around the right the right people the right places we like we went to Brooklyn at the right time we went to these are all and and you said talk about InvestFest right how do you get to 25000 people like I get people I know I know like this online thing is is is like big everyone everybody wants to do like these online events but I'm gonna tell you like this there's nothing like an in-person event nothing you can't be because you get you get that that in-person transaction is like that in-person re like relationship is just it's undeniable you like you can tell who I was speaking to me when you first met me right so we started with we were doing in-person events for two years free in-person events right free it was free like food free drink it was free right giving back 100 it started at like a 40 40 was the first in California then it was like 200 400 500 000 but we stayed and and we we followed we followed a strategy right and we built we built a an audience we built we built a a fan base and then we think about let's do something like Invest Fest right now our first invest we were able to get 4 000 people how do we get 4,000 people with the first event because we would do our work we were doing the last two years we were building an audience throughout the we went throughout the country you know doing these free events just just getting letting people know us and and and see getting that relationship that face-to-face relationship is undeniable and they realize that we're regular people we're regular people that want to help people right especially like we we spent a lot of money on that on that two year tour a lot right but look I mean look look your fruits of your labor you know I'm saying and look look now you know so it it was just like don't be scared to just get out there and just do it I think a lot of times like this event is probably one of the hardest things you you could probably do be doing a million things but I know for a fact this event is probably one of the hardest things that you do it is absolutely hands down the hardest thing you do everybody goes I want to do live events I'm like you have no idea what it takes to pull off a three struggle there's no success that's you have to struggle a little bit to feel that success and I think a lot of people don't want to go through the struggle the new generation don't want to go through don't want to do no work I mean I just created a flyer literally a flyer that would have taken me 30 45 minutes I created it in two minutes with AI now I know how to it's like the vinyl records you know how DJs used to make oh yeah now it's now it's Cerato I know how it feels to make a flyer the new generation don't know they don't this is what they're lacking they're lacking relationships they're lacking the the the the the grit the work they're lacking all those things so it's like you you you you have to you have to like understand one why you're doing it and and and two what you're doing it for so create tell me why tell me why you're excited about create and why somebody should be a part of create so I've one I'm I mean it is it's it's it's in our it's in our hometown it's in our backyard right that's one right I love I love connecting with people that I can see on a daily basis. So I'm gonna meet a lot of people there that I can connect with and keep that relationship going in person because we love these in-person things right but two is I'm I'm gonna get to speak to people and I'm I'm formulating an amazing presentation one of this is going to be my best work ever and it's gonna be my I'm giving you my best I've been working on it a couple months now I've been working on it and I just want people to be I want people to people to leave inspired I want people to feel like people gonna come feeling come in there feeling like you know lost confused you know have no have like no no direction and after I finish speaking after I kind of lay out my speech my presentation I think people are gonna feel complete the the goal for for my presentation is I want people to feel inspired and complete I want them to feel like this this they can do it because a lot of times people don't believe in themselves because I know what that felt like I didn't believe in myself right it took me time it took me time it's it took people pouring into me to believe in myself and now it's my time to pour into other people to make them believe in themselves. You know I love it two things I tell people you're only two things away from the next level and that's the right information and the right relationship like those two things right information and the right relationship and Michael guys is just one of I think we have 31 or 32 people that are going to be speaking in between mainstage keynotes and breakouts I will tell people is make the most connections you can possibly make you you before you go there you should have a uh a an amount of people how many you want to connect with and you have to meet that number you do not leave if you want to get 20 contacts say to yourself I'm gonna get 20 contacts and you do not leave that place until you get 20 contacts that's the most important thing about this event because there are going to be a lot of people that are like minded individuals that that can be your next business partner can be I met my wife at one of our events now we're married.

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It could be your next wife or your husband come on bro some of you guys that are single if you get married there's a there's an affiliate fee you got to pay us back if you wind up getting married no but it's true it's like go you go go to these events just you know I know like it's gonna be a lot of information on that stage there is but but the connections are in that audience so focus on the case it's funny you said that Michael I do a State of the Union at the very beginning every year 10 minutes not long last year I did it before John Maxwell opened us up on the faith component and I will say you know last year I'm like guys a a lot of you guys have you've you have invested a lot of money a lot of resources a lot of time being in this room for the next two to two and a half days my and you're gonna hear information the best speakers and communicators in the world when it comes to faith healthy relationship business and finances I have the best in the world on this platform but the secret sauce is the people you're sitting next to the people that you're at a table with the people you're having lunch with the people for CEO ticket holders when we're doing our CEO ticket events in the evening and having dinner like that is the secret sauce and if you leave this event and you don't have five to 10 brand new relationships you have missed your opportunity because it is the it is the number one let's do 20 let's do 20 come on 20 we got to do 20 20 relationships 20 relationships you got to do 20 and this is the key right after the event this is the key guys like you guys should be following each other right now everybody should be following each other on this live everybody should be drop your drop your drop your Instagram handle in there so now you can be like you know y'all can set stuff set stuff up set stuff up before you get there so you gotta connect with people 20 connections is so important I'm telling you that's where that's where your life that's what it the transformation is in those those 20 people it should be flying down flying down look if you look if you look at my my tagline I always put I guess it changed when I came back in but I always put my my Instagram handle as my as my name but guys it's it's it's very important to connect with people because that's where the transformation is going to be i like I met people that transformed my like like my first business partner when I was 22 years old I met him at Comp USA that was a computer store that you know comp USA oh yeah old school he purchased a computer from me and he asked me to come to set it up not only did I set up his computer I became a partner with him in his business and to this day I still get equity after 20 plus years that's how powerful a relationship is that's how powerful it is so guys let me ask you a question we're talking about relationships here I see everybody's dropping their thing in here's what we're gonna do one of the two things that we're doing for those of you guys that are on the call tonight especially those of you guys in our GSD ecosystem I'm dropping a code right now grosstackdrive.com forward slash create if you use the code GSD you can get a free general admission ticket for your friends do not show up by yourself to create like you owe it to your friends and the people you have relationships with to be able to bring them especially if you've been to create before it is a transformative weekend for I mean for two days absolutely transformation one question I'm gonna let you run we're gonna hop in here with Henry and Taryn Rachel Holland asked this question Michael what is your advice for people who are introverts the most successful people are introverts right but I think I think the most important thing is repetition for introverts just if if it's if it's if it's like so if you're if you're the type of introvert that is scared to go up to someone then I would say at this event challenge yourself to just go up to one person right it's what two days right the next day go up to two per two people and then before that go to different like go to a bookstore they just open a beautiful bookstore by my house go to a bookstore and just go up to one person. If you do that every day the repetition it's like it's like speaking I speak all the time now so I I start to become more comfortable you'll become more comfortable with meeting new people and introducing yourself to new people I think that will help tremendously stepping outside your comfort zone Michael dude I love you bro I can't love you can't wait I can't wait to hang bro I can't wait for you to experience create everything that it is um dude it's gonna be an unbelievable two and very exciting days worship you know four five areas faith health relationship business and finances we've got guys like Michael McDonald Steven I saw Stephen Scoggins is on here Steven's gonna be doing a session Henry and Tara Namar I'm gonna bring them up next in just one second um Henry and Tara Namar Steve I mean just we've got an absolute killer lineup Gary Brecket and Sage will be with us this year for the health component Ben Greenfield for those of you guys know Ben one of the top biohackers in the world Ben will be with us this year. Horse Schultze the co-founder and former CEO of Rich Carlton who is one of my favorite communicators on the planet like literally I met Horst two years ago year and a half two years ago we were speaking at a tower leadership event in Atlanta to about 350 dentists and I'm sitting there I'd never heard horse I didn't know who he was he starts speaking on excellence and leadership I literally had my notebook my GSD notebook and I'm taking notes and they're like Ken we got to get you mic'd up we need you to come back I said I'm not going anywhere so this guy's done this guy is really I literally opened my notebook and I'm walking behind the Pipe and Drake Michael taking notes the entire time it's gonna be an amazing time my good friend Eddie Wilson who is the one of the co-founders for the Aspire Business tour with the largest business tour around the country um Eddie is going to be with us it's gonna be an amazing amazing time guys dude Steven said I'm still here bro don't miss your opportunity listen gross stackdrive.com forward slash create if you use code GSD you have got to bring friends with you here's here's the deal like this GSD code I think there's a hundred free tickets that we've got for tonight's call so use that use it call friends hey will you go if I give you this is a$397 ticket right now if you go on the website they're$397. So we're giving these away for you guys tonight for free. Michael dude I love you bro love you too brother thank you so much thanks for spending time tell your wife thank you for uh giving us some time that was Jessica that was Jessica in the chat that was my wife ah there we go that's what I'm talking about Jessica thank you girl and I tell her I can't tell her I can't wait to meet her at Create this year. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thanks for listening and if today's episode challenged you or gave you clarity remember this you didn't become the best version of yourself by accident. You became it through alignment and proximity when your faith health relationships business and finances are aligned everything changes. That's the heartbeat of GrowStack Drive and the experience we build every year at Create the number one faith-based entrepreneur conference in America if you're serious about becoming the best version of yourself and growing alongside other faith-driven entrepreneurs I want to invite you to take your next step you go to growstackdrive.com forward slash free and join our free GSD community you'll get access to leadership content conversations and proximity designed to help you align with your Core Five framework and grow with intention and if this episode brought you value I'd love to have you subscribe leave a review or share it with someone you lead remember great leaders want something for people not from people this is Ken this is Proximity with Ken Johnson