SPEAKER_00: 0:00

Welcome to Proximity with Ken Jocelyn. I am Ken Jocelyn, your host, founder of GrowStack Drive, and everything we do here is driven by one mission. To help one million faith-based entrepreneurs become the best version of themselves in what we call our Core Five framework faith, health, relationships, business, and finances. Here's the truth that most people miss. Your life does not move in the direction of your intentions, it moves in the direction of your proximity. Who you're near matters. Who you listen to matters. And the rooms that you choose to enter matter probably more than you know. This podcast is built on the principles from my book, The 14 Frequencies of Proximity, where I break down the internal frequencies you must develop to attract the right relationships, gain clarity, and step into the next level that God has for your life. You'll hear real conversations with faith-driven entrepreneurs, leaders, and high performers. Many of them voices from CREATE, the number one faith-based entrepreneur conference in America that I host right here in Atlanta every single year in January. This isn't about hustle culture. This isn't motivation for the moment. This is about alignment, discipline, and becoming the person your future requires. If you're ready to grow in your Core Five framework and get closer to the people and environments that accelerate your growth, you're in the right place. I met Steve Randy Garn, who's a who's a dear friend of ours and Steven's, uh introduced me to introduced me to Steve. It was actually one of my first masterminds that we ever did. We did a mastermind in in Utah, and I met Steve there. And it was just amazing connections. Steve's built an unbelievable business at Prime, well north of a nine-figure business, which means they do over$100 million in revenue every year. Steve's got a couple of things he wants to share on relationships and how he's built his business through the power of relationships. Steve Harwood, what's up, my friend?

SPEAKER_02: 2:08

Dude, thank you so much. That was so fun, by the way, listening to those two. I feel like I'm I'm ready to go home and love on my girl in new ways tonight. So I really appreciate you know all the love and the talk about that side of the relationships because it is. It's why we do it, it's it's the driving force behind it. And I'm just excited to also now talk a little bit about the other side of relationships and business and partnerships and maybe some ways that I can add some value here.

SPEAKER_00: 2:31

Yeah, and you get you literally have built, and I'm gonna ask, I'm gonna let you talk a little bit, but yeah, some of the things you've built prime into a nine-figure business really through the power of partnerships and affiliates and relationships that you would talk a little bit about. Like, where did that even come from in you?

SPEAKER_02: 2:50

Yeah, yeah. I I uh I think there's a lot of things, but a couple that I could narrow down into. When I started the business in 2012, you know, like any new business owner, I'm just fighting and starving for finding an ideal customer to convert into my product to give them value in exchange for money and take care of my family. And as that play continued to build and continued to grow, I got to a spot of the business where I'm like, man, I feel like there's so many relationships and partnerships that are out there that I want to tap into that I want to, I know I can do a lot more with them. How do I unlock these individuals to have interest in working with little old me? Right? Like I'm just this little business just chugging along. And as I as I recognize that, one thing that I learned, and we mentioned Randy Garn, and I got to give him a shout out because there's so much of my heart and my methodology of what I do today that I operate from working for Randy and him being my mentor currently, still today, even serving, you know, his church and doing what he's doing. You don't talk about a guy that understands relationships and is the bridge for so many of us. But he has a saying and he says it very loud and very proud. And he says, serve as much as you can to as many as you can, as often as you can, without expecting anything in return. And the minute that I've heard that and I absorbed it, and then I started doing more of it, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is it. This is the unlock. Is like, how do I get in a place where I find the partnership, I show them the value, but then I constantly stay on adding the value. By the way, not in a way of expecting the ROI. Right. And and this, and this is what's happened to me. And honestly, like, I look in the rearview mirror. I actually flew to LA over the over the New Year's holiday, and I went and and and looked at the apartment that I slept on the couch where I started. I went to the next apartment that I rented a room, and I went to the next apartment that I finally had my enough money to do my own apartment. And it's just incredible when you travel back into that journey and you think about the things and the obstacles that you've overcome and looking at what where my life is today, I just wouldn't be here without the Randy Garns of the world being my biggest cheerleaders and wanting to support me along the way.

SPEAKER_00: 4:51

Dude, it's it is absolutely unbelievable. Take just a second before we dive like deep dive into relationships. One of the things that you guys have did as a partner with us is you part of your ticket, either general admission executive or um your CEO ticket, actually comes with some of the products Steve was talking about about what they do. Talk a little bit about Prime and what you guys do and what you guys have so graciously made available for everybody who gets a ticket at Create.

SPEAKER_02: 5:19

Yep. Love it. Happy to do it. And and first I'll say it's you, Ken. Like I'm I'm gonna show up and add value and get behind you with your events because you and your heart and you're just constantly pouring into everybody around you. So that's the first thing. The second part to it, and for us with Prime Corporate, we love to serve entrepreneurs and small business owners and unlock and give them a better perspective to understanding how the tax man works, right? Because that's something when you go into business, when you're going to make money, it's not what you make, it's what you keep. And I think that because we have such a complicated tax code and there's so much confusion around it, there's a lot of people that are crossing their fingers hoping that their CPA or the things they read online is doing the work, they need to minimize their tax liability, right? And so Prime's whole, you know, heartbeat and what we want to do is to showcase, educate, and also, of course, support and do the tax strategies for people that can make a difference. You know, 80% of businesses fail in their first year, and a big reason is a lack of capital. Well, if I can come in and showcase and teach you some tax strategies that can lower your tax liability by 10%, is that the difference of the money that you need to last the next year and to keep going? Right. And so it's a combination of things. One, it's the asset protection piece. What's the corporate structure do you have? Do you got a single member LLC? Do you got a holding company? Do you got a trust that owns the subsidiary companies? What's the level of structure you need to protect yourself and your business? Simultaneously looking at the tax strategies that now can be being applied into your business. Early on, by the way, I think a lot of people think that once they start making a whole bunch of money, that's when they need to start dealing with the tax side of things. It's true, and by way of how much you'll pay in taxes, it's not true, and by way of how much you can be saving and deducting in taxes along the way.

SPEAKER_00: 7:01

Because you guys, you're kind of your ideal client. Are people 250 and under? Yeah. Is that kind of your kind of your thing? Walk through kind of one of the things they're getting with their ticket to create. Walk them through exactly what that looks like for them as far as an entity creation or an entity assessment. What does that look like what you guys have given from your team?

SPEAKER_02: 7:20

Sure. Yep. The first thing is a one-hour long consultation of diving into their individual situation. So one-on-one with one of our representatives to basically say, hey, we're here with you for an hour. Tell us what you're doing, tell us where you're going, tell us what you're dreaming about, just to make sure that the recommendations we do give obviously do fit the situation. So a one-hour free call. The second piece to it, for most people that don't have a company or a corporation or operating as a sole proprietor, we believe that operating as a business is very imperative to the future, again, for a lot of reasons. And in lieu of the partnership, we're offering to help set up those corporations just for the filing fees and the hard costs to do it. It's not a moneymaker for us. It's strictly a value add to say, hey, let us come in and do this for you at a very low expense, add value, earn trust, build a relationship with you to showcase you what the opportunity is that now you can do with that corporation once we help you set it up.

SPEAKER_00: 8:11

I love that. And one of the things, hey, do me a favor, guys. If you're a business owner, you're on the call right now, and you're like, listen, I'd love to say how much you use, how much your average tax savings with the people you're working for right now, Steve?

SPEAKER_02: 8:22

I mean, I have a partnership. I looked at today that it was a little over$11,000 on average with that partnership that we saved their customers.

SPEAKER_00: 8:29

11 grand a person. How many of you guys would like 11,000 bucks? Type me or type yes in the chat. Like, that's me.$11,000. Let's get back a little bit to talking about. Let me ask you, I I do, I'm just curious. Like, where did this come from in you? Like, where was the passion for you to do this, Steve?

SPEAKER_02: 8:49

It it falls back to LA. So those roads I just told you, I went back to my second year in Los Angeles as a sales rep, I made$400,000 top-line income as a 1099 sales rep. And obviously, my whole entire life changed. Because if you knew my story, where I came from, how I was raised, I mean, the the chances of me doing that were next to none. I was going to be a construction worker following in my father's footsteps, doing the blue-collar thing, wearing the hard hat. So for me to go that second year in that new opportunity to make$400,000 of income, it changed my life. And I was so excited, celebrating it. You know, you want to look in the rearview mirror and be like, Mom, I made it. And then Uncle Sam comes a knocking, right? And 43%. I remember it like yesterday. I sat down with the CPA and they're like, great, awesome, you made great money. But by the way, you owe 43% of that 400 grand because of this federal tax and the state tax in California is very high. And I remember looking at my bank account being like, oh my gosh, I don't even have the money set aside to cover my tax liability on the money I made. And so as I thought about that in my mind, I was like, okay, if I'm going to be driven to better myself financially throughout my life and my tax responsibility arguably is going to be the biggest and most important thing I'm going to have to cover every year, it's safe to say I probably should go learn a little bit about it. Right. And so as I started rabbit holding the tax code and learning about section 179 and learning about the Augusta rule and learning about how when I eventually had kids, how I can pay my kids tax-free and all the things around it, it unlocked where I was like, oh my gosh, like, why don't we also teach and help our customers the same thing? If we're going to teach them in that time, it was real estate. Why don't we also teach them the corporate structure and the tax advantages early on as well and let both making money to keeping more of the money you make run parallel with each other? And so that was kind of the epicenter of where it started. And it went on to be multiple companies into Prime today.

SPEAKER_00: 10:36

I knew that had to be. There had to be a reason why you did that 43% of 400 grand. Uh it's about 160,000, 172,000, I think, right on a money. As a matter of fact, let me do my rain man math in my head real quick.$172,000 is a lot of money, bro. It is. And then you've built this. A lot of you guys are on the call. You're familiar with Pace Morby. You and Pace are super tight, super close. He was one of the first guys that stepped into this affiliate program with you. Talk about how relationships, how you it, how you've how you've leveraged relationships to grow your company, how that not only helps you grow your company, but how that in turn helps guys like Pace and the different people that you're working with. But where did that idea even come from?

SPEAKER_02: 11:19

Yeah, I think again, it it came from when I launched the business and we were, you know, attempting to run our own traffic and generate our own leads. And then it just dawned on me where I'm like, oh my gosh, I think there's a whole bunch of my partner or a whole bunch of people that have my ideal customer. What if I went to them with an offer that was so good of adding value for a service that their customer was going to go do somewhere anyways, do it better than where they were going to go do it anyways, and find a way to pay them. Right. And so as we started kind of putting those pieces together, that corporate structure became kind of that loss leader where I went out and found relationships saying, hey, let me come in and do this. I'm willing to lose money, go in the red to add value for you to your community, knowing that you're trusted the community. And then my way of if I do everything I say I'm gonna do on that product, the chances of me looking at other services and having them retain me for other things increases. And so that was the unlock. And then it just started snowballing. And you, you know, you talk about pace, you're right. He's one of my dearest friends. The the madman is doing a hundred city tour in a hundred days right now. Like he he is working harder in his life than he ever has, and he arguably doesn't have to work another day in his life. Um, it just shows once you love what you do, it's you're not working a day in your life. He loves it. But as I've watched him grow and I've watched all the attention of all the people that want to try to get in his atmosphere in his world, the constant thought is on me. And I watch social media, I watch things. I'll I'll tell a story actually. I'll use an example of one thing that I did recently that I think does make the way that I think look a little bit, and it is a little bit unique. He invites me to Disneyland with his family. And if you ever go to Disneyland with Pace, by the way, like just be ready for the ultimate VIP experience. They actually call it the Drake experience. So there's the VIP at Disneyland, and then there's the Drake experience at Disneyland. And because of Pace's celebrity status and the things that he's doing, there's this extra stuff they do. But for me, when somebody makes an invite with like that for me to go do something, naturally in my mind, what I do is I think about financially what it would have cost me to go do that, right? And I like to allocate the dollars in my mind to specifically do something that can be significantly meaningful for that person, right? So now at the kickoff of this, I already got$15,000 allocated in my mind of what I got to do to showpace my appreciation. And we're walking around Disneyland, and his wife, Laura, she never says anything about anything for herself. Like she never gives me any hints of anything I can do to impact or add value to her. But this trip, she insinuated this cowboy hat painting that she's seen at this Laguna gallery that would be perfect for their Montana home. And when somebody gives you a tip of something like that, and again, it doesn't got to be necessarily a painting. I like to refer to these as my heart spark moments. And if you listen long enough in conversations with intent and not always feeling like you're the one that has to be talking, do more listening. And then the minute they give you that heart spark moment, notate it, lock it in, take a screenshot, text it yourself and your phone, drop a voice note, text your wife, text your girl, whatever you got to do to be like, she gave me the hint. She gave me the heart spark moment. So from there, I couldn't almost honestly didn't want Disneyland to end, but I was like, I gotta find this painting, I gotta find this gallery. To make a long story short, I went down this crazy rabbit hole. There was only three of these pieces ever made. Unfortunately, I couldn't get her one from the original artist, but I have an artist friend that duplicated it perfectly. And I gifted it to Pace and Lara on stage a few months ago in front of a couple hundred people. And I just, when I handed it to her and I watched Pace, and we've had multiple moments like this, by the way. You know, you know when you feel like a relationship's already at a 10 and you can't do anything more for each other, but all of a sudden it slides up a little bit more. And what's happened between me and Pace and our relationship, especially with something like that, when you show love to the loved one that they love, yeah, watch out, right? Like if you get to my kids or you get to my girlfriend and my relationship, like you're gonna get more out of me than you would by doing something for me. But I watched it happen with Pace. And so what's happened over the years in doing things like that is it's this game of gifting that is ensued. And it's almost like we either of us can't wait for the moment of an opportunity to make an introduction or to do something of value for the other person because it's just this element that's just happening. And if you look at prime corporate services and you look at our 800 active affiliates and you look at our 600 appointments, there's hundreds of scenarios with these affiliates and these partnerships where it's like, I know I have a resource, I know that I listened for a heart spark moment, I know that I can put something in their life that will impact them in a big way. And it just builds the relationship. And for good people to good people, you just want to continue to keep loving on each other.

SPEAKER_00: 15:55

Dude, I love that because I love when you share about because there's nothing like reciprocal relationships where you know and it's not, and again, I love you said there's no immediate expectation of something of getting something in return. Like when you I asked Gary Brackett, Gary was on the call with me uh on this call three weeks ago, right before Christmas. And I said, Gary, why should somebody come to create? What do you love about and Gary's been to five of the six create conferences we've done back when nobody knew who he was in 2022? And he said, I said, Why do you come? He goes, Ken, the people in the room are so authentic. Like the level of authenticity in the room is crazy because there's not a okay, I did something for you. Now my expectation is fill in the blank ROI. Where did tell me where did that win by giving art come from in you? Where did where was that birthday?

SPEAKER_02: 16:49

Yeah, I it's a good question. I think when I try to think back through my life, one, probably my mother, right? My mom is a single mom raising three kids and just you know fighting for her life and just always still wanting to give back, whether it's her church, whether it's relationships around. It's like she has nothing to give, but yet she's still continuing to give, right? And so I think as a little boy, watching that probably created some of that in me. But then it just really, really dawned on me, like like for the epicenter of it, that I was doing it naturally, but I wasn't really calling it anything recently until just last the last couple of years, to be honest. Right? Like I knew I was doing something and I knew I had a way of it. But then my CMO actually, he's the one that kind of helped me showcase it and see it. And I got a book now that's getting ready to be released. The title is The Generosity Advantage and How to Win by Giving, you know, and I've reverse engineered this nine-figure business and these partnerships that like you just never know. Randy says it all the time. You never know who has the treasure map to your treasure. Like you don't know what one what situation you're in. But in order for that person to showcase opportunity, you got to add value, right? And it can be something simple. It could be, I remember I was at a conference with EXP and and and uh a lady mentioned that she loves dolphins. And I remember when she mentioned how much she loved dolphins, she kind of got emotional and I notated it. I raced up to the gift shop, I bought her a little statue dolphin, and I gave her this$13 statue. And I remember her looking at me like I was a ghost. She was like, How did you hear my comment about dolphins? And then 12 minutes later, you're giving me this dolphin, and then all of a sudden that became like the epicenter of this whole event of all of these people wanting to build relationships with each other. But the problem was everybody was trying to listen for what it is they could take. They weren't listening for what they could give.

SPEAKER_00: 18:27

So good, right? So good.

SPEAKER_02: 18:29

And then you become obsessed with it. And then here's the here's the winning formula, guys. Because for me, the success of the business, the financial success, the planes, the houses, like all the things that are incredible, by the way. When you work hard and you check boxes for things you always desired, it's incredible. But what feeds my heart and my soul every single day is putting myself in a position to where I have this almost game of giving that's just constantly ensuing, where I win even if nothing comes back. You know what I mean? Like I already went inside. When I do something like that and there's no benefit, it's like, that's okay. Because guess what? Like the scavenger hunt for me to figure out eight months later how to finally finish that art piece for Laura and then hand it to her, I was like freaking Santa Claus for eight months waiting for this moment to happen. And so it's like you start trying to quantify things where you're like, how much of a better dad was I because of the excitement in that art piece through that process, right? How many people, when they're 200 people seen me gift it and then they learned the story, and then 200 people went and did one act of kindness and then it lives on, right? Like there's there, it's impossible to quantify the compounding effect that happens. And what's so impossible to measure is just the feeling. When you when you have that bug and you have that feeling, I promise you all that God, karma, the universe, whatever it is that you fully believe in, it will bless you and it'll open up doors for you, and your life will be filled full of unbelievable bliss.

SPEAKER_00: 19:56

So you're dude, we've we've known each other for a while now. It really, what I hear you Saying Steve is generosity is a discipline. It's just and now you've learned because I see your your whole countenance change when you talk about the picture and you talk about the dolphin. Like there's a you know, there's a level of fulfillment in that. I mean, I've been on your plane before. We flew back and forth with Randy and the guys, and it's not like you didn't get on the plane with that kind of countenance, and we were like, you had all the guys with you. We had an unbelievable trip on that plane. Actually, flew down to Ed Milette's house in California. Yeah. But when I hear you talk about a 13 guys, I I want you to do not miss this. It's it's not about a dollar amount, about what you do. It's can be the Drake experience or Disney or a$13 dolphin. That when you brought that in there, not only did it affect that woman that you gave that to, but I love what you said, like the entire conversation shifted because people are like, and there's a there is a supernatural power and in in relationships, it's unlocked when you act and live your life in generosity. And the ROI that's always coming back to you is fulfillment.

SPEAKER_02: 21:12

That's it. Dude, that's can I I if I could elaborate just a little bit more on that story at EXP. So I give that dolphin to her. The table sees it. It ends up being a lot of the top EXP agents that are in Brent Gove's mastermind. Brent texts me the next morning and says, I don't know what you did at that table, but will you come speak at my mastermind in my room? I go upstairs, speaking at his mastermind in his room, unprompted, unplanned. I just was a guest. Then I deliver the message there. And then he messages me next morning and said, People are want more. Can you keynote the next morning? Next thing you know, I literally have an hour on a thousand-person stage that I never had planned doing. Why? Because of that$13 dolphin and people seeing my heart and seeing the impact of what it was that it opened up doors, that there's nothing else that could. I couldn't even offer Brent a hundred thousand dollars to speak in his room or on his stage, right? He had a whole bunch of other people and a whole bunch of other things planned. But because the message of what it was and how that person felt so good, it carried it on.

SPEAKER_00: 22:11

Yeah, Brent and Kathy are bringing their whole Titans, their Titans. I think they're Titans, is that right? Uh, my team's on here. I think it's their Titans. They're bringing 24 people to Create this year. Brent and Kathy are two of my favorite people on the planet, um, and and dear, dear friends. Agreed. Um, why should people, number one, be excited about create and why should they attend? And guys, we'll drop, I'll drop it again real quick. We're gonna do a code. And Stephen, and Stephen Scoggins, I'm gonna let you ask the last question right here. There's a code right there, guys. Growstatdrive.com forward slash create. There's a code GSD. You, those of you guys that are on a call tonight, we're saying bring your friends. Ken, how many I can how many can I bring? I think we did 50 or 100 free tickets to give away for these masterclass series. Grab this code and bring your friend. Steve, why should why should they take action on that tonight?

SPEAKER_02: 23:03

Yeah, I'll I'll tell you guys, the first time Ken I met you, and I love sharing this, and every time we reconnect, we talk about it because it was such a meaningful moment. But Randy Garn brings me to your mastermind, brings me to a cabin in Sundance. And I remember walking in that room, and a lot of what I'm sharing with you guys now, where it's I really drive off of adding far more value than I take. It was a cabin full of that. It wasn't, it, it wasn't, it wasn't, hey, can you do this? Hey, can I get it? It was what can they give? What can they do? And I remember sitting, I told you these exact words. I've I spent half a million dollars a year to be a part of every mastermind that's out there, and I'm a constant obsessive learner and I want to keep get getting better. But I've never felt a room that had the entirety of those people that truly were acts of service, is what they wanted to do. You know, and so if create is, which I know it is, because that mastermind was you and create is you, that's it. Like you're you're one person away. You never know as the treasure map to your treasure. You got to put yourself in the room. There was a question earlier about if I'm an introvert, how do I communicate? Like, you want to talk about a way to fight through being an introvert? Listen to somebody making a comment. Listen for what somebody says, the coffee they drink from Starbucks, and show up the next morning with that coffee and hand it to them and watch how fast that person and whatever that uncomfortableness you have as an introvert changes because that person welcomes you not with an awkward handshake, but a hug. And when that hug comes, it's just different. You vibrate different and you'll just you'll you'll take away things that will be absolutely incredible. And the speakers you have, the lineup you have, the gift that we're giving, and the obviously the consultation and the energy from our company that I want to support your people in will be incredible. And think it's just gonna be what it's been for the years in the past. It's just gonna crush.

SPEAKER_00: 24:39

This is straight fire, guys. Steve, thank you, bro.

SPEAKER_02: 24:41

Thank you, dude. And then hey, you got you, you, you, you got Scoggins in here. Yeah, Scoggins. You want to talk? Oh my gosh, there is listening. Listen, Stephen Scoggins.

SPEAKER_00: 24:49

Steven time out, time out, time out. Steven, you got 90 seconds.

SPEAKER_01: 24:52

I I I won't get it done in 90 seconds. All right. Well, first of all, I love your brother, Michiman. I relocated back to the East Coast, but I I'm excited to see you at Create, dude. Really excited. All right, so here's my question. I've learned a lot by watching you. When I first met you, nothing about you screams like, hey, look at me. You're all about serving others, right? So you've when I was looking at buying a jet, you were like, here's a performer, this is how the thing works. When I was looking at getting connected to Brandon Fugel on a regular basis, you're like, here's here's how here's how I know him. Um when I was looking at uh over the Dean Graziosi's place in Arizona, you're hey, hey buddy, I we got an empty seat on the chopper, you want to ride? Like you've always given to me without asking a single thing. And if I'm being transparent and honest with people like yourself, and you and I are fortunate, Ken's fortunate, to be surrounded by people who, to your point, give like nobody's business. How do I give back to someone like you? You know what I'm saying? Because you you show up. I mean, obviously getting you on the show and let you promote your book, all that's easy, but like you already you already pretty much have by definition the relationships everybody wants. You've got the the business that everybody pursues. You've you're a hell of a father, right? You're a hell of a partner. Like you you do so much so well, and maybe it's a committed, maybe it's that half a million bucks you spend on development every year. But like, how does someone like me show up for someone like you or someone like Randy, who's just instrumental just by modeling your behavior?

SPEAKER_02: 26:24

Yeah, I think it's I'm gonna answer thank you, by the way. All of that just giving me cold chills and honestly even getting me emotional. Cause then it's like taking me back to those memories, right? Like taking you back to Dean's office, taking you back to, you know, touring the offices and talking about the thing we were gonna do to get like all of those things, right? And I've just I've missed you as well. So it's it's when he mentioned your name, I was like, oh my gosh, I hope I get to see this guy. I think I'd answer it in two ways or or two pieces for me, honestly. The first one being my my my children, like most of your children, they're everything to me. My two little boys, if you guys could see the camera, they're actually sitting out in front of me in two cubicles. We've they're they're seven and nine years old. We've built them their own private offices because they got to be at the office with dad quite often. And they sit out there and and they they work or look at this. I actually got to show you guys this. This is my my son. I literally go look at his desk, and all of a sudden he has hand wrote all of these little quotes about our core values of our company that he referenced the sheet and just hand wrote these values himself. That's so good. Like it was just absolutely incredible. He did it on his own. I didn't ask him to do it. But that's where I would go first is like find a way in the simplest, smallest way, by the way, because my children have far more than they know what to do with most often, but find a way to serve them in a meaningful way, right? You know, and I don't know what that is. It could be a box of Legos, it could be a card, it could be a like something just simple where it's like, hey, I know you got a seven-year-old, a nine-year-old, and a little five-month-old, and I know their names. Here's this small thing to just show them love and hope they have fun with you, right? That that would probably be one that can impact me in a big way. The second, and probably I don't want to say more important, but I think is is far more doable, is to go do what I'm talking about and then share with me when you're doing it. Like there's nothing that gets me more excited for somebody to be like, bro, I got a dolphin story, I got to tell you. Bro, I opened up this door and I did that and I got that up. And like I chase that. So, like, honestly, that's what gives me fulfillment. And my big goal behind my book and my future is creating a community of just go givers at the highest level. And all of us are sharing these little things that we're doing that we can extract in our own ways of how to go apply and use those things because it just it's it just feels good.

SPEAKER_00: 28:33

Yeah, love you, dude. Thank you for that.

SPEAKER_01: 28:36

I love you.

SPEAKER_00: 28:37

Yeah, yeah. That's a great question. I do see the Rudy, I see Rudy's jersey behind you. That's another, that's another Randy Garn thing right there.

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That is that statue, right? The statue up top. I don't know if you can see that in there. He he handed that to me on my 10-year anniversary. It's uh it's incredible. It's incredible.

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