Street Farbrengen Episode 124 - If Jews Control Everything Then Act Like It

If someone says “Jews control everything,” the easy response is outrage or nervous laughter. We took it somewhere deeper: what if the only useful response is responsibility? That opens into Shavuot and the shift from “the giving of the Torah” to Kabbalat HaTorah, receiving it. The question stops being “What does Judaism do for me?” and becomes “What am I here to bring into the world?”

We explore Dirah Betachtonim, why holiness must enter ordinary life, and how modern culture’s obsession with highs, hacks, and even psychedelics can become the opposite of real growth. The deeper issue: most people don’t actually have a stated spiritual goal. Without one, davening becomes chasing feelings and Judaism becomes consumption instead of participation.

We discuss Shema as witness, the soul’s role in expressing oneness in real life, and practical hachlatas that turn big ideas into daily action. Then we ask: what’s one real goal you’re ready to name?

Transcript

A Provocation About Jewish Power

SPEAKER_02 0:00

There's something that I've been thinking about for a very long time, and I don't know if this is um how should I say funny, insane, or MS. And that is that the anti-Semitic trope is that the Jews control everything.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

I think that's true.

SPEAKER_04 0:53

Insane, what's your why'd you say it's Emma? I mean, I that's what I understand from what the Rebeam and what Kassidis teaches is that the Jews are in control, albeit not in the way that obviously anti-Semites believe, but uh control in how the world progresses.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Yeah, actually, what really gets me riled up is that they think, the ones who say it, if they really thought the Jews control everything, why don't they like saddle up next to us and become our friends so that we can give them some of the of the bounty of the control?

SPEAKER_04 1:34

I don't know if maybe maybe some do. Uh I don't think so. The quieter ones, maybe. I don't know, but anyway, what's your what's your point?

SPEAKER_02 1:43

What's

Giving Torah Versus Receiving Torah

SPEAKER_02 1:44

my point? So it's interesting because even though when we dava in on Shwis, here we are in the week afterwards, that we say it's Matin Thereseinu, it's the time of the giving of the Torah, right? We as Jews call it Kabalasatera. The receiving of the Torah, not the giving of the Torah. Yeah. Okay. So that's already an interesting difference. And we'd we can explore that. He chose us from all the people, and he lifted us up and so forth. Yeah. Why doesn't it say he gave us whatever? The Rebbeznigan is very different if you think about it than the other Rebbeim. It switches a little bit after the Rebbe Mira with the Rebbe Marash, but if you think of the first three Ribbanim, Rebeyim, excuse me, it's like hartsuk and that are speaking about reaching out kind of to God. And then the Rebbe Marash's Nigan is La Khathila Reba, which is talking about the person, right? Then the hachana to the the Rebbe Rashab's Hakana to the Mimer, and then the Frida Rebbe's Bainani, which is about the person, then caps it all off the Rebbe Ativakartana Mikulami. Okay. The time that we live in is a time that the focus is almost entirely on the Jew. What is a soul, what is a Jew, what is a Jew's role in the receiving of the Torah, of the spreading of the Torah, and so forth. And even to the point of that our role to the rest of the world, right? In Shabbat Mrs. Bin Ainnach. I think that traditionally as well as contemporarily, in is that the right word? Contemporary, contemporarily, uh, for most corners of the Jewish world, the focus is on the giving of the Torah. But Chasidis is speaking about the receiving of the Torah. And the avoid is the receiving of God's gift and God's giving and so forth. Why? Because the culmination of all of creation, including all the nations of the world, is that the focus of all of creation, the motivation of all of creation was us. Yeah. Down here. That includes, by the way, the rest of the world. But the Hashem wants a dirba tachtoin. He wants a dwelling place below, right? So the emphasis is on the tahtoin, not on the elyun. On the law, on the on the earthiness, and not on the heaven, if you wish. Um and the power of flipping on all the switches and all the lights turning on and so forth is in our hands, as we've spoken so often. And and we just were forbringing about it last week, and we've got to keep on forbringing about it. That the emphasis is in what your life is going through, what your challenges are, are not a contradiction, even if the challenge itself is a contradiction, in other words, the subject of the contrad of the challenge, but a challenge itself is the essence of Dirba Takhtani, of a making a dwelling place below.

Receiving Mashiach Requires Participation

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:52

So if so, how do you connect that? Actually, I don't even really need to ask how because I guess this is answering a big question of the fact that the only shulkhis that's left to do that the Rebbe says is to makeabal Panay Mashiach.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

Right. So yeah, good, great, great segue. So what does it mean to be makabul? Yeah. You're not being given Mashiach. That's right. So the ones that are screaming and yelling at came, let's say, the Shabbos the Sunday after the Rebbe said that, and we need you, and you can't give it a tire, and you know, Koyhnis and thing. And da-da-da-da, they didn't get it. Why is the essence of all of history, Jewish history, Kabbalah?

SPEAKER_01 6:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

And not the emphasis on this was given to us.

SPEAKER_04 6:41

Yeah. Because the ultimate end point, like you were saying before, of Dir Pataktoinem is us. Is actually the Jews avoida, is actually our participation.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

It's more than our avoida. It's us who do the avoida.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 6:59

And we were learning in a Mimer and and and and the people in the in the in the uh in the class are having a hard time with this. That the ultimate statement of Bittle of nullification is that my identity and God is one. And that's a hard place to to to parse out and to understand. But that is the ultimate, which is we don't have at the point of the apex of everything, we don't have an experience of something of God. We don't have a reaction to God.

unknown 7:55

Right?

SPEAKER_02 7:56

Rabishman Bariachai said he's one with God. There's no reaction. There's no experience, there's no nothing what to do. And that's the that's the essence of creation, the essence of Mashiach, Yachidash Banefaj, the essence of the soul. So what do you

Being Yourself Not Chasing Experiences

SPEAKER_02 8:15

find? You find that people today are struggling with the opposite.

SPEAKER_04 8:21

Meaning what?

SPEAKER_02 8:22

What could I do and what could I experience in order to find myself? In order to have be a more of myself. So I'm gonna I hate to keep on hitting the same record over and over and over again. So I'm gonna take a drug that's gonna expand my mind so that I could find myself and that I can feel more excited and more real and so on. There's actually um so I'm not gonna say it. So um that's the opposite of a voidus of mashiach.

SPEAKER_04 8:58

Yeah. But because finding yourself is not being yourself, right? And mashiach is about being yourself, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:05

So how do you feel self? And that's the we were saying the last Sabrayan we had, as Ativa Kartana Mikola Ami, you chose us that Kabal Satara is who you are going through what you're going through, even in this the stupid things you have to go through, even the struggles you have to go through, even all the you know, sharp uh turns that take place in your life that you didn't expect, and on and on and on, all of that is dear but all of that is and can be not a reaction to, but an actual um expression of oneness.

SPEAKER_04 9:51

Yes, and that is beautiful, and I'm curious about what your class is having a hard time with, because what I hear and uh we've been we've been for bringing for a couple of years now, and we've been friends for quite some time, Ruven, and so I understand what you're saying, but the still to this day, the initial reaction I have to when you say something like that is so then what should I do, or what can I do to reveal that? Whereas you're saying, I know the answer is you don't

The Missing Piece: A Real Goal

SPEAKER_04 10:32

have to do anything, you have to be, but people are still looking for a manual step-by-step uh you could call it maybe a control thing that you want to be able to manage the experience.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

I I understand the the dilemma, so to speak. So I think that this is my excuse the expression, experience, and my way of understanding this whole situation. And we've spoken about it many times, but maybe not in this context. How many people do you know? And I'm going to slip in there in brackets, the reason why you would know is what's being spoken about in Verbregan's what's being spoken about by the rabbi at the front of the shool, etc. etc. How many people do you know have a stated goal in terra in their spiritual life? And I'm not talking about how many pages they're gonna learn. In their relationship with a God that they've never looked at eye to eye. What is their goal?

SPEAKER_04 11:50

Okay, yeah, it's definitely not forbrained about or talked about that I know of.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Right. And it's not okay. So let me let's let's put it in the positive. If I have a goal and I don't even know if the word is is is curr is even misused in this context. If I have a desire to have total embracing with a God that's gonna become for me totally real, that's my goal. Would you not say, first of all, that that is a valid expression of the godly soul that we read about? Yeah. Okay. That'd be beautiful. So that's my goal. So at the end of the day, if that's my goal, at the end of the day when I going to go to sleep and I'm gonna say Krishma Lamita, won't I have some context of Krishma Lamita because of that goal?

SPEAKER_04 12:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

Okay, and if I don't have the estated goal, will I have any context? No, you're just gonna You're gonna mouth the words and blah blah blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_04 12:58

Well, you're gonna you're gonna look for the words, yeah. Even in the ideal sense, I guess you could say, or in a higher sense.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

Let's talk about how we do it.

SPEAKER_04 13:07

No, but I'm saying even if you're taking it seriously, you're still then looking at the words to show you something, you know, to bring out something from you.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Fine. Because you don't have a goal.

SPEAKER_04 13:18

Exactly. I'm I'm agreeing. I'm just saying, so where's the flow?

SPEAKER_02 13:21

The flow is from the flow is from that this should do something to me. Yeah. Okay. So without a stated goal, that is the way things work. I'm looking for the minion to do something for me. I'm looking for my community to do something for me. I do or not, I don't people ask me, I was away for for Yontif, right? From my show. And I love my uh where I dab in because you know I have my little corner and with my sorum, and I put my telescope on my head and ignore everybody, and it's very pleasant. So, but I went up to the cat skills with my family, and I didn't have that. So the people came back. People asked, How was your schwuis? What do they mean by that?

SPEAKER_04 14:08

Was it uplifting?

SPEAKER_02 14:10

Was it what did it do for you? Did you enjoy it?

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 14:19

The total opposite of what is the real goal. And you know, I'm I'm learning. Um, I'm falling in I always love the the Mittlereba, but I'm falling in love with uh Imre Bina for the last little week.

SPEAKER_04 14:34

I just want to first publicly apologize for asking you how your shwas was now, right?

SPEAKER_02 14:43

Um so in Imre Bina, he goes into a very long discussion, deep. I don't profess to really fully understand it. That the sh and we may have mentioned it once or twice, that the Shema, the word Shema in Shema Israel has a big ayon. And Hashem Echod, Echad has a big Dalit. And the ayon and the Dalit spells eight, which means witness. Witness, okay, a testimony. Okay. And this whole Mimur is predicated in the beginning. He has a like a 20, I don't remember how many paragraphs, 20 paragraph X uh Hakdamah to preface to the actual mimer. So it's a mimer before a mimer. And he says, you have to um realize the ayon in order to have the Dalit, and then you can have and one depends on the other, and that creates the unity. So let's put it in simple terms the essence of God has no boundaries at all, no limitations, no definition, the way we would understand definition, even the way we don't understand definition. Okay. So how does all definition come about? So one of the expressions in Kabbalah and so forth is Meshir, he estimated all the all that which will come. Right? Before there was a rats to actually do it. Now, what does he mean he estimated? He's Mashire of Ba'asma, he was estimating what could come. Now, whatever was estimated is what we have. Yeah. Right? We'll call it even imagined. Whatever was imagined is what we have. Could there be more that was never imagined?

SPEAKER_04 16:44

Yeah, I assume so.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Of course, because Hashem, because there's no there's no limits. Right, okay. So on one hand, the possibility, so to speak, after the fact of what was imagined was infinite.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

Okay, right?

SPEAKER_02 17:02

And then you have the reality of what we are, and we find a fi fascinating thing. There are infinite worlds, there's a celus is infinite, so there's a lot of infiniteness in the actual creation, and the two merge. You're just a representation of. And that is how much could you produce? Because the Nishama in its origin is that place where the Abhishta actually evaluates the possibility of whatever's gonna happen. That is because why? Aliba Mahshava Am Yasrael. Okay, okay. So the essence of the soul is that it wants to put out, just like God. He wasn't limited to do that, sure, but but that's uh essentially that's what creation is, right? Hashem decided he was so to speak, he wants it wasn't even decision, he was Meshir, he that he you know estimated what could be put out. All right, okay, yeah now, and that was stimulated by you. Yes, and that you that was stimulated it is one with that place of he estimates what could be put out. Why could what be put out is put out is because of who he is, not because of what they are, because they don't exist. Sure. Okay, so the essence of all creation is God wanting to create. Yes, okay, and that obviously took place. Sure. Okay, so the nashamma is the same thing. Okay, okay, and therefore the nashomma herself, her teva, her nature is to put out, wants to create, wants to, wants to be infinite in expression.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

And the more infinite in expression it is, the more oinig it has. Okay. So the the Mittlereba basically says that's the Dalit. What does the Gumara say? The Dalit is you anyone who's that is ma'arich Bedalit, if they make a long time in the Dalit, right? This is already Kabbalah's uh uh Shmay Yisrael, Kabbalah's Malhusai, and it's the idea of aid again. And that is Tamilchuni Aleichem. You're making God your king in the Dalit Ruchhois, right? Oliv, chas, and Dalit. In the Dalit and the Four Directions. What's the four directions? Space and time. Yeah. The more you want to create in space and time, the more you're reflecting God Himself.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

So the f okay, so back to the you were bringing all this up because I was.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

Okay,

Inside Out Living Instead Of Reacting

SPEAKER_02 20:10

so what so is what's going on in your life making who you are? Or because who you are is how you're gonna make in your life.

SPEAKER_04 20:22

Like you're reacting not to the situation.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

You're not reacting.

SPEAKER_04 20:27

You're not reacting, you're being in the situation that Hashem put you in.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

No, not even. Well, okay, fine. And those the situation he puts you in. And your your reaction. But let's get to the bottom line. Am I looking for something to make me? Uh-huh. Or am I looking to make something?

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

And think about it. Isn't that what is what the Frieda Karepper said when he came to America? Everyone says the famous line: America is niche under us, America is not different. So everyone takes it as a response and a reaction to, you know, Hollywood with all the Jewish people in Hollywood who are not keeping to her mitzvah. Well, you could say that.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:23

But on the other hand, just like he writes about his time in jail, and the Friedrich Rebbe says that when I went into it, I didn't want it. But when I re after I went through it, every moment was precious to me. Right? Yeah. The Rebbe Friedrich Rebbe comes to America and says, This is the situation that America thinks is different.

SPEAKER_04 21:46

That America is not with the pro, yeah, that that America's environment and external behavior has the ability to influence uh.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

Who the Free Nicate Rabbin is the tackle of a problem. Uh-huh. It's a situation that is begging my expression. Ah, wow. Because he's a Nazi. That's a leader. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So the same thing, why is it not the same thing by a Shlia? Why is it not the same thing by Achassid? So Achassid says, How am I gonna get rid of my Mahshravasaras? And then I'll become something. You got it backwards. So Kabal Satara is, who am I? What am I willing to say who I am? Now, we can't put it into words, but what we could put into is what do I want?

SPEAKER_01 22:50

What's my goal?

SPEAKER_02 22:54

And does it really feel that my goal? Now, you know, when you say what's my goal, to me, your goal may be different than my goal, right? Sure. Now, if your goal is, I once I just asked you recently, did your parents grow up in poverty? And what I was looking for was, is that why they react the way they do in the life about money? Right? We're always looking for you're going to go to your therapist, you're gonna find out all of the reasons why your parents were like the way they were, and you are like the way they what's the point of that? Oh, because if I can deconstruct what they made me, maybe I can make myself into something else. That's already starting on the wrong foot. Yeah. Okay. But you're saying, well, wait a second, I went through trauma and I went through all of this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I gotta find myself, which is a normal thing these days, right? Maybe you don't have a self. What do you mean you gotta find yourself? You're telling me you you don't have yourself. There's actually a woman from Chabad, or she used to be in Chabad on Facebook right now, and I hope she's listening. I hope she said and realizes that despite what I'm about to say, I think she's just wonderful. She spent so far 26 days telling everybody in the world all her problems and all her struggles, and since how much she loves the people who are listening, because she's finding herself.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

It's an insane, it's an insane formula. But on the other hand, people are saying, but I don't know who I am. Okay, so when you say, what do I want? First of all, how you know, if you want ice cream, you know what you go to the to whatever places that sell ice cream and you pick a flavor, it's already there, and so forth. But we're not asking that. We're asking, like, what is my real what I want in life?

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Okay. It takes a lot of guts and a lot of bittle to say that, to answer it. Why?

SPEAKER_02 25:12

Because there's no reason why you want what you really want. Just like there's no reason why the Ibishta wants Dirba Takhtanya. The very fact that I want this is an expression of I am.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 25:30

So a lot of people are not willing to say this is what I want. And the obviously the emphasis is on the I. So we're told, oh, an emphasis on the I is ego. Kick it out. Okay, so now I have no ego. Now I have no desire. Well, you should have the desire to become a Tamil Khachim. That's a classical Jewish statement, right? Which you'll get in some yeshivas. Sure. Okay. Why? Why should I become a Tamil Khachim?

SPEAKER_04 26:03

Covered.

SPEAKER_02 26:04

Yeah, exactly. You know, feeling like self-important, which means this is gonna make me. Yeah. So the formula this is going to make me is already corruption.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Wow. Wow, well, wow.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

So I I I I'm I'm thinking, because I'm scared about it, but I'm thinking, well, the next time somebody comes over and says, the Jews control everything, I'm gonna say, Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

So you know what? Be careful. Pretty powerful.

SPEAKER_02 26:44

Or Tony Robbins says, in the name of his teacher, who the five people you hang out the most with, that's who you become. So you want to hang out with five Jews? Just think what may happen. So but that's just you know, tongue-in-cheek stuff. The bottom line is, and then you say to yourself, uh I am I I I am this person that's so powerful? How many Jews think that?

SPEAKER_04 27:16

I can't imagine.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

Yeah, I can't imagine like I know anyone. Other than the Rebbe, I never met anyone who really felt that.

SPEAKER_04 27:23

You don't think you don't you think the Rebbe thought that he was so powerful?

SPEAKER_02 27:26

No, he knew he was so powerful. But he reason why did Moish Rubin know he was powerful? Did he know he talked to God? So how can we say he was the most humblest of all people? Because everything that he knew that he could do was because he was one with God, and it means that God was doing it all. It wasn't an ego trip. Oh, I am a somebody and God is granting me all of this. You know, I get bigger and bigger the more he grants me. The Al-Tarebba deals with that in the first paragraph of Igris Khadish and Tanya, right? The difference between Yaaku Khatan Mikola Khasadim, I'm small because of all you gave me. The smaller you are, the bigger you are, says the Zayar. But not in order to become big. So I am gonna have an experience of taking I'm sorry that I keeps talking about this, but I'm not sorry. I am gonna have an experience of taking drugs so that I could become bigger.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

That makes total sense.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Um it's understandable.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Yeah.

unknown 28:44

Right?

SPEAKER_01 28:45

But it's not the goal.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

But it's not it's not the holy formula for living. And isn't what Kabalsatura is all about the holy formula?

SPEAKER_04 28:57

Yeah. And you said you have to start with setting a goal.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

A spiritual goal. A real goal, I'm saying. Um did we do that, Zacharya?

SPEAKER_04 29:17

I'm gonna do it now. It's never too late.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

No, it's never too late, especially in the week after Schwuss. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 29:23

Yeah, still no Tahnun for a few days.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

When you think about it in this way. Because I have a goal, I could feel I need to say tahnun for not working on my goal. But if I have no goal, is like an abusive father telling me everything. And I don't want to hear it, and I don't want to talk about it. And when you really get down to it, what I'm saying, it's no it's not my inyondam, but what I'm saying, the personification of it historically is post-Gimalthomas.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

Leaving it completely up to you.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

Exactly. Who are you?

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

I'm not gonna make you a chassid. You have to decide you want to be a chassid.

Responsibility After Gimmel Tammuz

SPEAKER_02 30:27

You know, I saw something the Rebbe says in uh Toshin Yud in Shwurst, before he became Rebbe officially, he says a very interesting thing. He says, Matin Tirah, we say, the giving of the Torah at Shwist time was the revealed parts of Torah. And Lugba Omer was the Panemia Satara. Right? Lugba Omer was Zahar and the esoteric part. And the Rebbe says, but look what we have. When the Torah was given on Har Sinai, what was put into revelation?

SPEAKER_01 31:12

What was revealed there? At the time of Harsina.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Thousands and hundreds of thousands of angels was the Markava.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

Right? The holy whatever throne from above. Yeah. Panemius. Why? Because the Kavannah of Nigla and the revelation of Torah was the actually the Panemius.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

And not so. It doesn't mean you abandon one for the other. On the contrary. But you know, I did this uh now. We're getting into like a little bit of vulnerable space over here, okay? It's about time. No, how do you know it's no? I'm telling you it's vulnerable. It doesn't mean the other stuff wasn't vulnerable.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

Um just talking to you is vulnerable. Um so I, you know, I did that film on drugs, right? On ayahuasca. Or whatever, psychedelics. So one thing led to another, and I asked a friend of mine recently, just the last few days, that I never really put out any PR about it. So sitting doing nothing. And I already know that the big Chabad places don't want to me to give to them, so I don't even think about them. So I said, what would this magazine take it? Would that magazine take it? Would this podcast take it? And I asked my friend who's like a little bit of a Maven kind of story. And he said, No, these are family magazines. Is it family magazines? I mean, they're not for kids, because they have a separate kid. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

And really what he was saying was we don't want to talk about what's going on. Right. We want to it disturbs us what's going on. As it should to a degree. And we don't want to address the pinemias.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Maybe we don't have the answers. Maybe it puts us into a place of crises that we have these problems, right?

SPEAKER_04 33:51

Maybe if we ignore it long enough, it'll just go away.

SPEAKER_02 33:53

Maybe it'll go away. Or the people who have these problems, they'll go away. Yeah. Right? Um, and that's you know, your problem, not my problem. Sure. Except that's not the Rebbe's way, and that's not the Vashemta's way, etc., etc.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

So um so the the it seem it seems that Kabala Satara is being vulnerable to be who I am.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

And if uh if by the way, if we had this discussion many years ago in our beginning of our long path of street verbringas, if my sense of self, if my pinemius, the way I relate to it is we'll call it the way the Rebbe says it, an oilemsh. I'm a worldly person, and I relate to worldly things, and that's my identity, then you deal with it. You don't ignore it. Yeah, that's what the Avishta gave you. So that comes back all the time to what's my goal? And I'm gonna suggest to you that most of us don't ask that question because most of us don't even think about it, and when we think about it, we don't know what the answer is. Yeah, and no wonder we're running around saying, Who am I? Right?

SPEAKER_01 35:31

Yeah. Um, so cabal's tarah is again, who am I? Yeah. How much do I want to put out?

SPEAKER_04 35:44

Not even what's your purpose and your mission and your faculty. It's it's so much deeper than that.

SPEAKER_02 35:49

It's because of who I am, I have a mission. Yeah. And what's the mission? Well, God made me like this, so that's my mission. And now it's not an easy place to sit in. That's what you had a reb before. You asked the rebba, should I be doing I want to do this? Is it right? Right? Whatever. But at least, and I still say, as I said to you a couple of weeks ago, I don't miss the reb, I just miss Febrangis. You have Igriskoidish and you get the Rebbe's answers. You know, if you're honest and there's that word again, vulnerable. Um so what's a practical first step?

Practical Hachlatas That Change Daily Life

SPEAKER_04 36:26

Well, I'm gonna start trying to think of a goal. I think that is a very practical step, and not a goal of something I need to do in terms of reveal who I am, but a goal of You mean make who you are. Make who I am, but uh a goal of real Ruchnius, you know, uh who says what you want is Ruchnius. I I think the goal that you're referring to God wanted was the Gosh Mystika world. Yeah, okay. So I mean the example you used before is a goal to experience Hashem in your Davning, I think was the I never said that. No, that wasn't your goal. What was your example of a goal? You gave an example earlier.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

I said I s I don't know, I didn't give an example.

SPEAKER_04 37:17

No, you did, but okay, what's a what's an example of it?

SPEAKER_02 37:20

I said it's an expression of creating from within to without that's the clear Jewish way of looking at a goal. The goal doesn't make me become something.

SPEAKER_04 37:38

Yeah, I got that.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

I got that something wants to create, wants something, and that is your individuality, which is your animal soul. That's right. Because the godly soul says, tell me what to do, and I'll do it. Yeah. And the animal soul says, I want to go out and make money, I want to become this, I want to do this, I want to do that. Okay. How do we align that with atovikhartana mikolaamim?

SPEAKER_01 38:11

How we align it is Kabbalah Satura.

unknown 38:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 38:22

So maybe next week I'll be vulnerable or you'll be vulnerable enough to share what that goal is, and we'll see how it goes.

SPEAKER_02 38:30

I could tell you uh well, you know, the Rebbe says you have to make hachlatas. Achlata is a goal. Yeah, that's true. Right. Um I'm still working on mine that I have for a while. Did I ever tell you then? I don't think you did. Oh. I think I did, but I'll say them over again because I can't say that I've been exterling perfect about it. Um my first goal was that I would you're gonna laugh. That I would not do two things at the same time.

SPEAKER_04 39:07

Oh yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

And the second was I would not interrupt someone while they're talking. Yeah, that's a real tough one for me. Um but doing two things at the same time includes um what am I thinking about while I'm dominating?

SPEAKER_01 39:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

Right.

SPEAKER_04 39:27

Um now I had that goal too after we forbrained about it.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

What why what's that gotta do with from the inside out versus the outside in?

SPEAKER_01 39:40

Because m we come from a place that's indivisible and I want to at least express that.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

I don't mean not live on that reality, but I can certainly express it. And I have control to express it, so I will not do two things at the same time. Um but you know, and the other one was I'm not gonna waste time. Right?

SPEAKER_01 40:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

That's a toughie.

SPEAKER_04 40:17

Yeah. That is.

SPEAKER_02 40:19

But why would I not waste time? Because of who I am, not because Yeah. Oh wow. So um clear. But I have a long way to go, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_04 40:31

But who says I don't know if you need to get there.

SPEAKER_02 40:34

There's no getting there. Yeah. So then a long way to go is not a real statement. No, hopefully I do have a long way to go. Um, yeah. So maybe we should just say to all those people who pop in that are not Jewish that I'm more than happy to um control you and give you all the blessings you need. Because that's what we're all here for, no?

SPEAKER_01 41:09

Yeah. Yeah. Hi.