From Grammys To Growth: Healing The Hustle Without Losing Your Soul with Ricky Rebel

What if the real secret to success isn’t hustle, hacks, or going viral—but your inner steadiness when the noise gets loud? We sit down with recording artist and producer Ricky Rebel to unpack why consistency is a spiritual practice, how fear and comparison derail it, and the tools that bring you back to yourself when ambition heats up. From a blue hue that became brand, book, and talisman to red-carpet choices that sparked both applause and backlash, we track the journey from “prove them wrong” to “let them in.”

Ricky opens up about identity policing in the industry, the weight of old bullying, and the moment he realized controversy had become armor. We talk through threat versus safety in the nervous system and why trauma makes us forget what we already know: we’re capable, worthy, and allowed to take up space. That’s where the real pivot happens—when statements stop coming from defense and start flowing from alignment. Along the way, we explore energetic boundaries on set, finding flow at high-stakes events, and how serendipity shows up once you stop negotiating against yourself.

You’ll leave with a simple, repeatable spiritual inventory you can do nightly—what went well within you, what could be kinder or cleaner next time, the small “glimmers” that brightened the day, and intentions for tomorrow. Paired with a grounded gratitude practice that names both outer blessings and inner qualities, these tools restore focus, reduce reactivity, and make consistency feel human. If you’re building a creative career, scaling a business, or just trying to live on-purpose without losing your center, this conversation offers a map back to the source.

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Transcript

Setting The Stage: Success And Spirit

SPEAKER_06 0:15

Welcome back, everybody, to the truth about addiction. I'm not gonna lie, I think I'm gonna giggle a lot today. And I think that's a good thing because the subject matter tends to get pretty heavy and deep. And so you're welcome in advance. And also, I have a repeat. This man has been on the show, but not for a long time. And we're gonna slice this pie up and have a couple of really meaningful conversations about the business of spirituality. Like what is it to be successful and live a spiritual life? How are they related? What does that even mean? You'll know this man as soon as you see his face. He's also dressed like goddamn Michael Jackson. So I feel a little underdressed, although I came wearing a poofy fur coat. So we're just gonna live our best pop star life right now. Ricky Rebel, or shall I say, Richard Gondinez. Welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_04 1:16

Thank you for having me. Thank you, Quincy.

SPEAKER_06 1:21

Also, he just put on his glasses, his sunglasses.

SPEAKER_04 1:25

We said Michael Jackson, so I was like, he did it.

SPEAKER_06 1:28

You did it. Welcome back. Thank you for having me. And also for coming back, like with less than 24 hours' notice. It's been a minute. It's been a minute.

SPEAKER_04 1:39

Yeah. Yeah. I drove up and I saw your beautiful uh brand new Porsche.

SPEAKER_06 1:44

I get so many. I have this car, you guys, that my husband got for me. I'm not even gonna pretend like I'm rolling in my own dough right now. I'm rolling in my husband's dough right now. And it is, it is here's what I love so much. Okay, so I'm not a car person. He's in the car industry. He knows how to get a great deal, blah, blah, blah. Here's what I love. Peel away, and this is a great segue to our conversation. Like, peel away the ooh, like you a badass bitch driving around in a blue Porsche. Like, yes, yes, yes. Okay. All the things of

The Blue Porsche And Intuition

SPEAKER_06 2:20

what my husband and I have been through growing up with no money. Now we're entrepreneurs, we we're stable, we're successful, and we can like afford to spend whatever amount of money on a car that is just going to appreciate, depreciate rather, right? So great, great, great. The color of that car. I get so many compliments on it. And what I love so much is it's one of my favorite things to share when I speak about the first time I actually heard my intuitive voice as an adult in this marital crisis. And sh that voice was like, hey girl, you're in this unfurnished apartment and your marriage is wrecked. You might be here for a while. So you should probably decorate it in a way that feels good to you. So go shopping and kind of figure that out. Now I was like 30, I had had a wedding already, I had had to pick out the colors of the flowers to my wedding.

SPEAKER_04 3:16

I see.

SPEAKER_06 3:16

Not knowing who I was or what I liked or what I cared about. This was the first time it was really just for me. And I realized that I absolutely love the color blue. I love it. I love it because of how it makes me feel.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

Right.

SPEAKER_06 3:30

And for whatever reason, that particular color makes me feel both energized and soothed at the same time. So I ended up decorating my apartment at the time with a lot of splashes of that color. That color has become the color of my business and my brand. It's on the front cover of my book, and now it's the color of my Porsche. So for me, there's such a tenderness and a fondness like underneath the flashiness of the car that it represents to me. So yeah, you pulled up to, and we call her Britney because we call her Brittany. Obviously.

SPEAKER_04 4:03

That was the first track we played when I got in the car. We played Britney.

SPEAKER_06 4:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:07

Like jamming out.

SPEAKER_06 4:08

Yeah. And you have a blue car too. I do. But we're not here to talk about blue cars. Yeah, we're not. We're not. What you know, it's interesting about what we're gonna get into is that I I just I think about spirituality all the time and the way that it has changed and affected my life and continues to do so. And I didn't put this post up yet, but the other day I was just walking around and I like the way social media is moving into a little bit more authenticity face to camera. Because when I get an inspired idea or thought, I'm like, maybe you won't post this, but just turn the camera towards yourself and say something about it. Maybe it'll be great content, maybe it won't. Maybe it'll be the beginning of another story you can tell on a stage or a chapter in maybe your next book you're gonna write, whatever, or maybe it's nothing. Maybe you're just getting it out of you. But I made this whole thing about success being spiritual

Success As A Spiritual Practice

SPEAKER_06 5:06

because it if I could take one word that every successful entrepreneur has said is required to be successful, it's consistency. I mean, there's lots of things, right? But that is a humongous thing. You have got to stay the course. So any of us can have big dreams, big visions for our lives, and and many of us do. And if we're gonna be courageous enough to charge in the direction of the vision, the only thing that's gonna compromise it is spiritual in nature. So let's say we're three years in to wanting to win a Grammy. We're three years in, we've had some small successes, we're getting on people's radars, we're, you know, building our relationships. And then we're just like, it's not working, man. I'm still broke. I'm not getting 100,000 downloads. I I like I need to make money. I I can't. This isn't maybe I'm not good enough. Look at that person. That person just went viral. Imposter syndrome, fear, doubt, uncertainty, comparison. These are the hurdles, and they are spiritual in nature that we will have to jump over again and again and again in order to actually have the success that we say that we want.

SPEAKER_02 6:37

Right.

SPEAKER_06 6:38

And so it's like this is, I think, you know, the same thing happened with the body. It's like I'm working with someone's body, and then there's something spiritual in their life that's getting in the way of them building the body that they want, which takes time. And it's like again and again, no matter how you slice the pie, everything comes down to something spiritual in nature. So I'm so curious, like, what do you think about that when I say that? Interesting.

SPEAKER_04 7:02

Yeah, I I agree 100%. Because if you think about it, the the motivating factor to continue on and do what you love and and do the the all the goals that you want stem from things happening from within. It's not happening from you know outside of ourselves. Because you're right, there are a lot of things that happen that uh make us upset, and we can't let that get in the way of um our initial uh dream and aspiration. But yeah, it's a spiritual battle.

SPEAKER_06 7:37

Yeah, and I feel like uh what I'd love to know, because you know, you're in the music industry, right? One of the toughest businesses out there, one of the toughest businesses to be successful in, whatever that means, quote unquote, if we're talking about external success, like winning a Grammy or people really knowing who you are. Can you take me to a time that comes to mind where based on the topic of success being spiritual in nature, where you didn't have the tools necessarily, and so you feel like that probably had something to do with the outcome of things versus a different time in your life, a different story where there was there were more tools in the tool belt to navigate the really hard things, and so your success looked and then felt different.

SPEAKER_04 8:29

Yes,

Fear, Comparison, And Consistency

SPEAKER_04 8:30

I could tell you we we had this conversation about my my Grammys appearances. I I went to the Grammys in 2019 and I wore something that was just front page news. I was the fourth most Googled Latino on the planet, next to Jennifer Lopez. Uh I was making a a statement and it was a political statement, and it was a jarring, like you either completely love me or completely hate me kind of moment. And at that time in my life, I was uh a much more um get your fists up, a little more combative type of person. I was kind of dealing with some trauma that I didn't understand at the time. And I'm still trying to understand it, right? Being bullied as a kid, um being bullied by the industry, uh, telling you you you can't make it if if you are openly um a part of the LGBT community. That was a big deal in the 90s and the 2000s. Uh, where they were talking to sat us down, you know, I was on uh Madonna's record label. I remember them, not Maverick, but like our you know producers like sitting us down and being like, you cannot act a certain way, you can't act feminine on stage. If you do, Ricky, it's gonna put the whole band in jeopardy. And I was just wearing something that I really wanted to wear. I was wearing like a jumpsuit that was like pleather, and I felt like Elvis Presley. I felt like the hottest shit on the planet. I'm in I'm in Jersey performing your your neck of the woods. We we're opening for Brittany, and I was just having the time of my life, and yeah, I got I got a couple hecklers out there, like a few, but most people were screaming, having a great time, thousands of people, but the label only heard the hecklers, and they they had a conversation with me and the manager, and and I just started to ball because I didn't want to put my band in jeopardy for for something so dumb as like my fashion choices. So those type of resentments kind of kept building and building and building. So when it came time for me to make my mark um at the Grammys, I I wanted to do a statement that just got lots of like pow, like a big reaction. I got the reaction I wanted. Um, and it was a lot of love, a lot of hate. And then in 2020, I came back and did another moment, which was even another big moment I had. I was wearing all red and I said something on my butt. I had something to say on my my booty, and I wrote it, and it was supposed to be humorous, supposed to be funny. But again, it was another like my friend was telling me, I how I went this last time was just such a different contrast to who the person I was in 2020. 2026, I came in red, but it was just classy and beautiful, and the hair was just like old Hollywood and glam. The face was just I was getting chef kisses from people, just you're just beautiful, and Elvis and Prince and Michael, and you're just giving all of this love energy. But it's such a different contrast to the red look I was fire red versus passion and love red. I really think I had to go through all that process to get to where I am now, where I feel like I don't want to be, I don't I'm not

Industry Trauma And Identity

SPEAKER_04 11:55

interested in being as like controversial as I once was, but because I think that's just something that is stemming from my trauma. And that's something I need to work out with my therapist, not the world. You know, it's something I have to work out from the inside, that spiritual work that you're talking about, something so I can really let the people in and love the people and uh love my fans, love my audience, and want more, want more people to just feel invited, feel comfortable to listening to my music and having a good fun. Yeah, I got to that place.

SPEAKER_06 12:31

Yeah, I love I love that, right? Because this idea that we are combative. I mean, when I think about my work in the world, my journey as a sober woman, why did I write a book trying to redo the steps, all this stuff that I'm doing. And I have to reduce it down to something that makes sense for humanity. Because so many people aren't gonna necessarily relate to a raging cocaine addiction or whatever. But it's really about threat versus safety. And that's what we're talking about. And that's what trauma, whether it's micro trauma or macro trauma, that's what trauma does. It puts us into often when we're when it's unhealed or when it's activated, a state of threat. And what we do from that state of threat, you know, all bets are off. It depends on the tools that we have. And so threat can look like untreated resentment, hostility, defense, anger, rage, sorrow. I mean, threat can look like so many things. So in your case, like what I'm hearing you say is there have been times when you weren't as deep in the work or you didn't understand necessarily how how angry you were, how suppressed you had become, right? All these ways that you were basically being told not to be who you are.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 14:00

And having that bottle up, but not really having a place to put it. And so you put it somewhere, right? You put you put it somewhere. And it compromised for a time, although you didn't get into this too much, but uh, you said you either were loved or hated, so maybe we can go more into this, but it compromised the success route you were on because it was alienating. And the thing is we can't please everybody, and like we know that. And if we're gonna, if we're gonna make a big statement about anything, even my work in the world, right, is gonna be so controversial to some people who love AA, like, how dare I, right? Yeah. So you, you know, I think it's I think it's amazing to like take a stand for something knowing you're gonna have haters, but the fact that you understand, I I was under threat and I was defending myself to you people, versus having done more deep work and establishing a sense of safety within so that whatever statement you go and make on the outside is not because you have to let them see, yeah, prove them wrong. You it's it's just a reflection of who you actually are, and you can take it or leave it, they can come or they can go, they can offer the the job opportunity or they cannot, and you're okay inside.

SPEAKER_04 15:21

Yeah, I felt a real sense that people were trying to control me, basically was what was happening. The fear of being controlled is so huge in me. It's like beyond imagination. Um so I felt like, oh, the LGBT community say I can't vote a certain way. Well, fuck that, you know. It was just a real, I'm not gonna be controlled.

SPEAKER_06 15:42

So that made you feel threatened.

SPEAKER_04 15:43

It made me feel threatened, just like the way the the industry was like, you can't be gay and successful at the same time. I was like, fuck you, you know. And but now I understand that uh my control is from within. It's like my my balance comes from the inside. It's not something that they could ever make me feel out of control or in control the outside world. And I I I forgive uh myself for the choices I made back then because I was like, you know, doing what I felt was the right way to go because I didn't, I mean, I really didn't have the education I have now about how serious bullying is on people. I just thought, oh, well, people get bullied all the time. It's not a big deal. I would talk to my my therapist about that. I'm like, well, isn't everybody bullied? Like that's just like normal. She's like, well, not everybody was bullied, and not everybody was bullied as

Grammys Shockwaves And Backlash

SPEAKER_04 16:45

much as you have been. What for being feminine or soft or gentle, a gentle man, you know? All these things. And now that I understand that that's my my garbage, I don't want to put that on people. Like, I remember the last uh event I did, I hosted for the first time. I was really nervous. I had my little cue cards.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

I was like, oh my gosh, I've never hosted.

SPEAKER_04 17:09

And it was like a big pre-Grammy party. We had a bunch of people downstairs. And I remember like looking in the mirror and be like, Ricky, you know, I'm really proud of you. Like you've got your little cue cards, you look amazing, uh, you look beautiful, and you know, look at your outfit. You're just you're you're such a star, you're so beautiful, and you know, those people out there, they uh they need love. Okay, like that's something to really understand and really get. They need to be loved. Yes, they're in the industry, and yes, they want to be stars, and yes, they but they're just little children, to be honest. And they just want to play in the play box and they want to, you know, be accepted in the group a little bit. Just they need love, and that's the bottom line. The world needs love. So, as much as we you need love and I need love, like the outside world needs love. So I have that um perception now that I did not have back then.

SPEAKER_06 18:07

By the way, you guys, just as a moment of levity, when I early on when I first met Ricky, and I feel like I kind of remember this moment, and it might have even been with my husband in the car. It was one of our gigs that we did together in LA. It could have been Whiskey a Go-Go or Viper Room. It was some like iconic venue, but the night was a shit show of a night. Okay, so let's just deal with all that logistically. Isn't it always I know it is a little bit always? Sometimes it's not. Sometimes, like I mean, for me, Sony Studios now everything was amazing.

SPEAKER_04 18:48

Everything now in my life, honestly, you don't be gigged with me. It's just whatever happens, happens.

SPEAKER_06 18:55

Yeah, I was like, I was the the guinea pig, you guys. I was the girl who came in and was like, wait, what? First of all, you got the the level of perfectionism and how it how it too, like it did for me most of my life, had a noose around your neck, was hard to watch. And I just tried to be funny and light and joyful. But I remember you being like, I'm Thanos, right? I want, give me the ring. I'm like, what are you talking about? What are you talking? And it was like all you cared about. I wanted all my rings. I want power, I want to be on top. I'm gonna show you fuckers how wrong you got it. Fuck you. That was how that was the energy. Yeah, and I just I remember that night that you talked and you spit, you know, talked about the rings and the and and I was like, there was like a moment inside where I was like, okay, like I'm on a healing journey, I'm singing and dancing again for the first time in a gazillion years, and he's the one bringing it to me, which is so cool. But like I'm terrified by what he's saying because what does that mean about where he is? And so I I just to watch that version, and and also by the way, we share a therapist, so cute. All of my closest friends have the same therapist as I do. Yes, because I I've worked with her on and off her for a decade, and I'm a little bit more than a little bit. She's helping me a lot. So I just when my friends, if they if they say like

From Combative To Compassionate

SPEAKER_06 20:40

real discount, I only went to be ten dollars for you. I know she doesn't really give me a discount. Um, excuse me, Jocelyn. Can I air up my resentment with my own therapist about how angry I am at her? But I literally just say, listen, I know a chick. She's helped me navigate, you know, an extramarital affair. I mean, crisis after crisis, and she just helps me see it differently.

SPEAKER_04 21:11

And so good.

SPEAKER_06 21:12

So, you know, secretly I'm I'm obsessed with like that is one of the things, right? That that and that, you know, in whatever way I I hopefully did or have contributed to like being a part of like, hey, there's other ways to see this, there's other, there's other ways to fit inside of this and exist in the world and be successful and have the ring, but like have it come, like your experience at the Grammys, like have all of that stuff come from a sturdy vessel inside. Because then if it goes away, which usually it does at some point anyway, yeah, like you're fine. And that you're not measuring your happiness and your success based on those outside things, which I've spent my whole life trying to do, and I know it's an empty pursuit, right? Which Which it's so hard to see that when you're you can't when you're in it.

SPEAKER_04 22:04

We already have the rings.

SPEAKER_06 22:05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 22:07

Exactly. We are already we have it inside of us. The power is inside of us. Love, abundance, everything. We already have it in inside of us and we forget. And that's why we start to get all like like Thanos. Give me the ring. It's like bitch, you've always had the ring. You've always been powerful. Stop. You've always been and then it's just the weirdest thing.

SPEAKER_06 22:34

I love that you're saying this though, because I I probably say to my coaching clients once a day at least that so much of our work in healing something is the remembering. And it goes together with what I was saying about threat versus safety, because when we're under threat, and again, I don't necessarily mean like a gun at your head or you're being actively bullied or molested, like those are obviously massive threats, but all day long there's big and small threats to our nervous system all day long. And so when we are under threat, I mean this is scientific and soulful, what I'm about to say. We forget. We literally forget about goodness, we forget about kindness, we forget about love, we forget about patience, we forget about compassion. We are completely dysregulated. And so once we feel what needs to be felt and we can get calm and still, our job as conscious beings, what a gift that we have a consciousness and these other creatures out there, as far as we know, do not, that we get to remember. We get to remember. We we if we could just remember how great we are, how capable we are, how powerful we are. But it there are some steps before we can remember, right? Which is why, you know, I remember some of the interviews in the first six months or so of

Threat Versus Safety: Nervous System 101

SPEAKER_06 24:10

my book coming out, podcast interviews, whatever it was. And, you know, the subtitle of my book is How to Rewire Your Mind for Hope, Resilience, and Joy in the face of trauma. So it's like, you know, talk about feeling threatened. Somebody reads that who either has it or completely recoils when they hear that word. Dun dun dun. That book's not for me. I don't have, I don't need, I don't have so much trauma that I need to rewire. Okay. So this woman on an interview was like, so what if we don't like relate to that? What if I don't identify as somebody who comes from trauma? I was like, great, then you don't have to. All you have to do is take an honest spiritual inventory of your life right now, today, as it is. So just scan the landscape of your life.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:02

How's the quality of your business, your work life? Do you like your job? Do you have something that's such a big why that it's pulling you forward when shit gets hard? Are you staying but you hate it? Like, take a look at that. Take a look at your personal relationships. Do you have a couple people you can count on and call for anything? Are you angry at people? Are there resentments or the fear of abandonment? Like go down the line into the major buckets, your relationship with body, your relationship with you know, people you love. Like, and and if there's a place, or two or three or four, where there's a sticking point. There's a, yeah, everything's okay except this thing, this thing, you know. Right. Then I would just say there's some work to be done. Right. That doesn't mean hardcore therapy, going back into the pain, going back into the pattern. It just means what can I unpack here? Are there patterns that are playing out within me? It might seem like the pattern is out there. I keep attracting the same type of friend, I keep attracting the same type of guy. But but that's true only because there's a pattern playing out within you. And could you get brave enough and curious enough to just explore that alone with the help of somebody else, whatever, so that you have you have the power of choice to pick a new pattern. Because there's so much power in pattern recognition, because we can just be like, oh, I'm doing that thing again that I always do. I get it. I know I am doing it. I used to do it when I was four and when I was eight and whatever. I'm not going back there again. I'm not in the same place. But now that I understand it, how do I want to move through the world differently? Like, what are what is the practice of new behavior that is required for me to have a new experience, a new friendship, a new relationship, which is what I'm saying I want in this part of my life. Right. Why isn't that enough of a reason to want to do some work? Right? Like, not everybody's motivated to make their life even better. You know, pain is a is a wonderful motivator. I can certainly speak to the times I've been faced down in a pit of despair and it's been a catalyst for change, but I don't think it has to be.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Right.

SPEAKER_06 27:16

I think if you're just uncomfortable enough being uncomfortable where you are, that's a green light.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

Right.

SPEAKER_06 27:25

To dig, to just excavate some shit.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:28

And see what's on the other side of it.

SPEAKER_04 27:30

Yeah, I see that. See what's on the other side. And it's like uh maintenance, right? We have to clean our cars, you have to brush your teeth, you have to form your. I am I feel like I uh can understand the difference between, you know, the light and and love and energy and the very opposite. I remember one of my uh clients, I'm a producer now, you know. I produce I produce your music video, Bang Bang, and I've been producing for other people now their music videos. He brought on set like a like a like a demonic Satan uh satanic um necklace, and I was like, hey, guess what? You're gonna put that way over there in the bag, in your bag, you're not gonna take it out until you get on set, and then you can touch it. I'm not touching it, I'm not getting anywhere near that, because I don't want any of that energy. But I respect your art, and that's what you want to do for your art. Um I just don't want anything to do with that energy. I know that's true.

SPEAKER_06 28:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:43

Right? So I'm not really sure why I'm bringing this up, but I did.

SPEAKER_06 28:49

I like it. I like it. It's fascinating because as you're saying that, I you know, there's on the one hand part of me that's like, yeah, 100%, right? That's like you you want to be protected from it because you've done so much work to get where you are, and and at the same time, and and I'm I don't know, I mean, there are days when I have total access to what I'm about to say, and plenty of days where I do not.

SPEAKER_04 29:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 29:11

But I also think to the extent that we're talking about healing as an inside job, there's something to be said for creating

Pattern Recognition And Choice

SPEAKER_06 29:20

such a strong, sturdy spiritual vessel that no matter who comes in, no matter what they wear, no matter what they say, no matter what they do, we are an energy of love and forgiveness and compassion, and we're fine however you slice it, right? Like that's like that, but that's like some Buddha shit, right? Yeah. And to your point, literally, I have clients who are like, is there a time in which I'm just gonna wake up and like have access to God, whatever God is? I'm also non-religious, it's non-denominational when I say that. But like they want they want an access that is infinite and endless, and it's always available, right? Right? But I also feel like our spirits go through like a washing machine. Like every every day it's you wake up, all bets are off. You're gonna you might be tired, pissed, someone did something, someone cuts you off in the car, your kids are having a fucking tantra the whole thing, right? And and it's like spiritual warfare. You also have every morning a spiritual boardroom inside of you, all the parts of you, all the ages that have been offended, where there have been crimes against your humanity, possibly, traumas, and all those little parts are coming too. They're going, all right, what do we need to do today to protect ourselves? Because we don't want that shit to happen again. And you gotta you're like, holy crap, I gotta talk to those parts, I gotta talk to God, I gotta pray and meditate. So I always say to my clients, like, I think it's our job to like consciously contact the energy of love every day, as often as we can. Yeah, I don't know that it's our job to stay in that plane. So I say that to be human about what I'm saying, right? Like your client came in, he had a demonic thing on, right? Like, so your initial instinct based on where you are is like, ooh, like no, thank you. I don't, yeah, like I I need to like set a boundary around this, right? But but there's there is access at the same time to being fully protected in that moment, even if you said nothing.

SPEAKER_04 31:24

Yeah, yeah. What happened uh when I went to the Grammys this last year, 2026, uh, you know, it's come out like four seconds ago. Four seconds ago. Okay, okay. So um the it's come out that uh there are elites that do demonic things to children, right? They uh do incredibly evil things, some in the music industry as well. It's just like it reality check. Yeah, there are some people who are that evil and who were in that room with me, or you know, in the sphere.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:59

And I didn't feel anything. I didn't feel any demonic energy, I didn't feel any I had such a great time with every single person I met. I mean, I was with Diane Warren, one of the greatest songwriters of all time. Again, I got to see her again. I got to be with FKA Twiggs when she won her first Grammy. I love FKA. I was just in this buzzy space, and what what I was doing is I was like, okay, Ricky, you're gonna go with the flow. You're gonna like water, you know, you we love blue, you're gonna let the water kind of pull pull you around like like a leaf in the river. And if you feel like getting up, you're gonna get up. If you feel like staying in the seat, you're gonna stay in your seat. But you're sitting there, you're like, oh, maybe I should get up and network. Maybe I need to get up and go. I feel guilty watching the show. Maybe I should. What about my posting? And then and then if you let all that go, you're just kind of like, okay, I'll work a little on my post now, but I think I'll watch this show now. You know what? I think I want to get up now. So you get up and then you talk to people. I I went through the whole day like that and and serendipitously meeting with like just so many. I know for a fact I was supposed to meet them at that time, at that place. I'm reconnected with other people, Robert Evach, uh, other people just boom, boom, boom, down the line. Um I didn't feel the demonic energy, but my mother did. Fascinating. My mother said that she was scared in her own home. Because she felt uh evil spirits in the house.

SPEAKER_01 33:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 33:32

And she said, I've never felt scared in my own home. She's like, Ricky, I couldn't even sleep. I was having nightmares.

SPEAKER_06 33:39

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 33:40

So what I think might have happened. I mean, if we want to get a little more like into this, those spirits know they can't. Those spirits know I'm in my space right now. I'm not really I feel protected and everything, but they know my mother, that's gonna hurt me. They know it's really gonna be understood. The assignment. Well, if you

Boundaries, Energy, And Protection

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can't get we've got to go through her to get through and she might have been blocking some of that energy from me. Because I didn't feel anything. I just felt great. But I think spirituality comes down to this. Being a spiritual person is really recognizing in your life the gratefulness to be alive, the gratefulness in every try in your mo in every moment to think about what it is that you are grateful for in your life. My mother, my father, my cat, my dog, my husband, my house, my car, my bed, my clothes, my I'm so grateful, my talent, everything. If you could just kind of take moments in your life just to really take account all the things are great, my my friendships. Um that'll keep you in the space of the light. Because like a lot of our thoughts, 80% of them, there's what Dr. Marsa Pay. I'm in that show, Straight Talk. It's on NBC News every other Friday. If you guys want to check it out, it's on my YouTube channel, Facebook. And it's a great show, it's about positivity, and she's really helped me as well to really take account every day like eight things that you're grateful for on the outside of your world and eight things you're grateful for on the inside, like who you are as a person that you're grateful for. That's a hard one. It was really hard for me, but now it's gotten easier. But I think to me, that's my that's my spirituality. That's for me what what um godliness is about is like really being grateful for our lives. Yeah, it just comes down to that.

SPEAKER_06 35:41

Yeah, and I love it. Like, you know, we started the talk by saying success is spiritual, and we were talking about what what success actually means and why I even made that statement. Like, what are you talking about that it's successful? I mean spiritual, we think it's financial, we think success is financial, it can be, but it's actually spiritual first and foremost, and that's what we're saying right now. Yes, and you know, you you said this earlier, and I think I alluded to it as well. But on this note, right, as far as like a actionable takeaway for the listener, you're saying it. I do this almost every day of my life. We always think of inventory as business related. But because we're spiritual beings, we need to be taking spiritual inventory. And if we can, knowing that there's this 24-hour reset where the shit show begins again upon awakening, that might imply that it would be a good idea to do a spiritual inventory every 24 hours. For me, I I in recovery, the tenth step is about taking personal inventory when you were wrong, promptly admitting it, things like this. So it sort of forces you into a pattern of scanning your day and going, how did things go today? And that has evolved over the years into this nightly gratitude list. So partly it's a bunch of things I'm grateful for, but also what went well today, what could have gone better? And these are things, and what's really tricky about it, and you're kind of saying, like, when you have to go inward about gratitude, it's it can be harder because we think of gratitude as the things we have or the things we don't have that we don't want.

SPEAKER_04 37:31

But my favorite, right?

SPEAKER_06 37:32

But like what went well and what could have gone better, I could think of a thousand things in a 24-hour period that are outside of me to answer that. The hard part is to go, what went well within me today? What did I do well? Yeah, and also what could I not the weather? Oh, it was raining today, it was fucking freezing. That didn't go well. No, no, no, no, no, no. How is that gonna help you spiritually in your life? You're focusing on something you're powerless over. What could I have done differently or better today? Oh, I could have been kinder, I honked my horn a lot because I was in a rush, like, and

Flow At The Grammys And Serendipity

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not to do it with blame or shame, just with a curious awareness. And then ways that I lived in alignment with my ideal self. Yeah, I love that one. Blessings of the day, which is you know very similar to whatever you're grateful for, gratitude, or I like to think of the opposite of triggers as glimmers. Like if it was a shit ass day, some days suck. Yeah, but there was a glimmer. There's glimmers, one moment of kindness, one moment of belly laughter. Oof, like look for it. Yeah, focus on it. What you what you focus on is what you feel. And then my intentions for tomorrow. So my personal inventory list, like my spiritual inventory every day is that it's like a this container of going inward, and it just sets me up to be more self-aware, to have better pattern recognition, and ultimately go out and you know, serve my calling better than if I hadn't done it. So for the listener, I hope this is helpful. And I feel like Ricky's doing the pee-pee dance. I know.

SPEAKER_04 39:21

I can't think of it better. I'm all my pants.

SPEAKER_06 39:33

So guys, don't be your pants. Don't be a spiritual being on your road to success. We love you. Thank you for joining us at the truth about addiction. We'll see you next time.