Successful Business Built on Conviction: 7 Weeks Coffee | Anton Krecic

Episode Summary: 

Can a business be both profitable and deeply purposeful?

Anton Krecic thinks so. After witnessing the funding challenges facing pregnancy resource centers, he founded Seven Weeks Coffee, a mission-driven company that has donated more than $1.8 million to support life-affirming pregnancy resource centers nationwide.

We discuss entrepreneurship, brand building, faith and work, leadership, profit, purpose, and why conviction may be one of the strongest competitive advantages in business.

Along the way, Anton shares how a season in political fundraising and a commitment to serving others shaped his vision for business. His story offers a compelling case for entrepreneurs who want to build something bigger than themselves without sacrificing excellence, faithfulness, growth, or impact.

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Anton Krecic is an entrepreneur, speaker, and founder of Seven Weeks Coffee, one of the fastest-growing mission-driven coffee brands in America. After a career in political fundraising, he launched Seven Weeks Coffee to prove that business can be a force for both excellence and impact. Through innovative branding, customer-driven philanthropy, and a commitment to quality, Anton has built a company that supports hundreds of organizations while inspiring entrepreneurs to lead with conviction and purpose. 

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Faithfulness Over Resume

Anton Krecic 0:02

He doesn't judge us on our resume. He judges on our faithfulness to what he's called us to. It's not the title of the resume or the accolades. I am very ambitious. I want to have a very successful business. Business should uplift people before profits. But I believe when you do that, you know, you're gonna have success and you will be profitable. And as a company, we we are profitable. We want to be profitable, but that's not the ultimate goal. God has given people talents, but it also requires much of what he's given. And if you have breath in your lungs, you have a talent to use for the Lord. And really to see your vocation as your ministry in some capacity. A lot of times we might not see like how God is using our work because we can like write it off as non-important or it's not, you know, directly impacting like some mission or something directly with the church. It's it's secular, but all of that is meant to be used for God's glory.

Luke Allen 1:02

Hi friends, welcome back to another episode of Ideas Have Consequences. This is the podcast of the Disciple Nations Alliance. As Christians, we all know that our mission is to spread the gospel around the world to all the nations. However, our mission, the Great Co-mission, also involves working to transform our cultures so that they increasingly reflect the truth, the goodness, and the beauty of God's kingdom. Tragically, the church has largely neglected this second part of her mission, and today most Christians are having little influence on their surrounding cultures. Join us on this podcast as we rediscover what it means for each of us to disciple the nations and to create Christ-honoring cultures that reflect the character of the living God. Hi guys, my name is Luke Allen. I am the producer and one of the co-hosts here on the show, and I'm joined by our host and my dad, Scott Allen. Howdy, Dad.

Scott Allen 1:48

Howdy, Luke.

Speaker 2 1:49

He's choking on something.

Scott Allen 1:50

Yes.

Luke Allen 1:52

Well, your voice is probably taxed because we just hopped off of a great interview with uh new friend, uh Anton Kiersik. He is the founder and president of Seven Weeks Coffee, which I'm sure a lot of you guys have heard of because they are a great company that is doing a really good job finding uh marketing partners who work in a lot of the major Christian podcast spaces. So if you've heard an ad on another podcast about Seven Weeks Coffee, that's the guy we're talking to today. So, Dad, just coming away from this discussion, uh, what were some of your highlights and what was a what's what's a summary of what we talked about for everyone listening?

Scott Allen 2:24

It was a great conversation. Yeah, Anton is such a great guy. We uh we we mainly circled around the theme or the topic of just what does it mean to be a committed Christian in business? Um, in you know, uh applying the skills and the gifts that God has given you in this area of vocation. Um, Anton has a a lot of really terrific things to say in that respect and um has done a lot of good thinking and application of biblical truths and principles and values into how he runs his business. And uh it was really encouraging. It was really, uh, really wonderful. I learned a lot.

Luke Allen 3:00

Yeah, it's always great to talk about um our biblical worldview of business because, you know, as we say at the beginning of every episode, our mission is to help transform cultures to increasingly reflect God's truth, goodness, and beauty. And a lot of what most of us do every week is in the area of business. Uh, so making sure that we have a full biblical worldview of the work that we do every day and how that connects to God's big plan for all of history is always encouraging and uplifting. So I really enjoyed all of his thoughts, very practical thoughts on how to apply biblical principles into whatever business that you happen to be a part of. Uh, before we hop into the episode, guys, if you guys could take five, ten, thirty seconds to give this show a quick rating and review, that would be super helpful for us. I know that every podcast asks you to do that, but that's because it really matters and really helps uh shows grow. Uh so again, if you could just hop on the app that you're listening on right now and give this show a quick rating and review, we'd really appreciate that. So now without further ado, let's hop into the episode.

Meet The Founder Of Seven Weeks

Scott Allen 5:04

Well, we're thrilled today to have with us uh Anton Kreerik. Did I say that correctly, Anton? I should have checked earlier. Yeah. Kresik. Kresik, excuse me. Uh Anton Kresik. What what what what what is that name, Anton? Where is that from?

Anton Krecic 5:18

Uh my dad's side. I think it's like Slovenia.

Scott Allen 5:21

Slovenia, okay. So Eastern Europe, all right. That's a wonderful part of the world. Anton Kresik. Anton is the founder and the CEO of a fantastic company we're going to talk about today, Seven Weeks Coffee. Uh, fast-growing values-driven coffee company that combines direct trade specialty coffee with pro-life advocacy. It was founded in 2021. Uh, Seven Weeks Coffee donates a portion of every sale to pregnancy resource centers across the United States. And to date, it's contributed more than a million dollars to over a thousand organizations in all 50 states. Wow, that's fantastic. Under Anton's leadership, the company was recognized on Inc. Magazine's 2026 regional list after reporting rapid growth. Anton's originally from Ohio, but he has previously worked in political fundraising before launching the company, and he now speaks nationally on faith-driven entrepreneurship, the sanctity of life, and building businesses rooted in conviction. And Anton, it's great to have you. So thanks so much for taking the time to be with us and just uh share a little bit about yourself and your your vision, your ministry.

Anton Krecic 6:34

Scott, it's a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me on.

Scott Allen 6:36

It's a thrill. Um I would really like to, Anton, we're we're gonna drill down today on uh a couple of these items. I just uh was reading from your bio, the uh the idea of faith-driven entrepreneurship in particular and building businesses rooted in conviction, just kind of the whole theme of how we as followers of Christ should think about our work, our vocation, uh, the the kind of things we do Monday to Friday, you know, uh the work that God's called us to. And uh I'm sure you've got a lot of great wisdom. But before we jump into that, I tell us a little bit more about yourself and uh, you know, just how you you began, you know, a little bit of the genesis of the vision of the coffee company, Seven Weeks Coffee. Um, we'd love to hear a little bit about that.

Anton Krecic 7:24

Yeah, happy to happy

From Injury To A New Calling

Speaker 3 7:26

to share. You know, it's funny how God works throughout your life, and you look back and you see how it connects so many different things, but in the moment you don't realize it. And for me, um, it was all the way back in 2019 when I graduated college, um, and I was I felt like I was starting life at zero. And what I mean by that was I I didn't know what I want to do for career. I majored in something I didn't love. Um, I gave my whole life to actually competitive golf, and then I had an injury where I totally had to pivot and move away from um um sports in for a long time. And so it really was like this fundamental like reset in my life um in 2019. And during that season, I was able to hit pause and I was able to intern at my church, and it was one of the most impactful summers of my life because that was the first time I got to visit a pregnancy resource center. So grew up in uh northeast Ohio area, was always a Christian, was always pro-life, you know. I like would always say that, but I didn't really know what it what it meant, and I truly didn't know what it like looked like living that out, especially what is what is the pro-life movement there. Primarily, you know, pregnancy care centers, you know, people who are facing unplanned pregnancies in communities across the US are often supported by pregnancy resource centers. So I get the opportunity to visit a center in 2019, and I was totally changed after that moment because I realized just how important the work they're doing and how little funding they receive and attention they get. And they're often on shoestring budgets, relying on volunteers, the you know, barely can pay staff, and they're doing the most important ministry work, which is you know, protecting the unborn and supporting vulnerable moms who are facing unplanned pregnancy, caring for uh the most vulnerable in our communities. And that was when, not when I had the deer for seven weeks of coffee, when I knew that the pro-life movement was something I wanted to be involved in. I just didn't know how that was gonna be. So, you know, fast forward after 2019, I um moved to DC. You know, honestly, to get involved in the pro-life ministry, but like how do we bring like godly values into government? And so I was like, you know, I'm interested in politics, but I'm also interested in like how do you live out like a biblical worldview in government and like promote godly ideas into culture. And so I moved down here and I'm still in Northern Virginia today and got to um work in the on the political side um for a few years doing political fundraising, and which was all really great. And then you realize how stagnant Washington is, and what I mean is is like it's like what everyone assumes, like nothing really gets done. There's very little progress from a legislative aspect. You know, a lot of times we we advocate for these values, or for me, I was raising money for a lot of great causes, but it's so hard to actually see like the the impact. And you know, all that time during uh when I was you know working in fundraising, and I was always very like entrepreneurial. And I was like, you know, why can't the private sector like do something for like these same causes, right? You don't need a lot of paths to support a pregnancy resource center, which obviously what we do at Seven Weeks Coffee, or you know, you don't you don't need the government to to to just live out the Great Commission and to um be the hands and feet of Jesus. And so, you know, during that time when I was working in politics is when I had the idea for Seven Weeks Coffee, and it really stemmed from a simple idea. You know, how can we use the products that we consume every single day to support uh God's mission? And for me, um the that was the pro-life movement, his mission to support and protect and save lives. And so I literally Googled pro-life coffee, and nothing came up. And it was a moment I'll never forget. It was two weeks after I got married, and I don't see anything on the internet for pro-life coffee, and I'm like, I am starting this today. And I remember calling my wife, and I was just so just like struck by lightning. You know, is she probably thought I was like in trouble or something because she's a nurse, and you don't call a nurse when they're at work and I'm bugging her in the middle of the day. I'm like, I got this idea, I need to tell you this. I want to start a pro-life coffee company. What do you think? And like I mentioned, it was literally two weeks after we got married, and trust me, that definitely caught her off guard because you know, usually you're just getting settled into married life, you're not off trying to start a business. But um, that's when God put it in my heart. And um, yeah, the name, um, I'll I'll say this funny antidote right then and there is when we came up with our name because my wife asked me, what are you gonna call the company? And I didn't know yet. And then she asked the inspiring question when is a baby the size of a coffee bean? So I look it up at seven weeks at baby the size of a coffee beans at the same time a heartbeat's detected on ultrasound. So it's like perfect, seven weeks coffee, donate 10% of every sale to support ultrasound services at pregnancy care centers. And so that was the name, the mission, and the purpose, all like all within like a 30-minute call. It was incredible what God did in that moment. And it gives me a goosebumps just thinking about it because I remember just going home that day and like working on Seven Weeks Coffee the Business and kind of tying it all together. Um the first pregnancy care center we supported was that pregnancy center in 2019 that I interned that I got to visit when I was an intern after I graduated college. So it all it all came connected, you know, years later. And um, you know, we went from one center to now over 1,200. You mentioned uh in the intro a million dollars a fun update is we've actually raised close to $1.8 million now in support from Privacy Center. So we're we're growing fast, we're donating a lot of money. And um I'm just here to steward what God has given me. And it's been uh four years, four and a half years now, almost five years this fall, and changed my life for the good. And um we're just getting started.

Scott Allen 12:48

Oh man. Wow, that's so exciting. I I love the part of your testimony there, just as you were sharing where you you had the idea, you know, and I I just think there's something really special, I don't know, uh powerful, you know, that God makes us as image bearers and we can think and we be we can be creative. He's a creative God, and and you know, all the good in this world, you know, from a human standpoint comes from that kind of, hey, I I think I want to make the world a better place, you know, and I can do something about that. I I really love that, the way you got so excited, and your your wife too. So excited. Yeah.

Speaker 3 13:22

Oh, that's and I will mention, you know, this is this is sorry, go ahead and love to share this with your audience, is you know, I never hit pause on this idea because, like you said, like this is a the idea of seven weeks coffee was to to support life, to promote biblical values, to to live out what God calls us, to to bring the talents he gives us into the marketplace, to use what we're uh been gifted with for his good and for his glory. And I, and you know, it's funny, a lot of people get stuck in this season of like thinking of what I'm supposed to do. And you know, a lot of times it's really just taking action on what he's already given you. You know, you um serving the Lord is nothing you have to you never have to hit pause when something you're gonna do is gonna serve the Lord. And um, and that's one of the biggest takeaways I always like to share, especially if you have an audience that's you know curious about careers or callings, is you know, get going with what he's already called you with. Um, so many times we're we're we're waiting when um it's time to be doing.

Speaker 2 14:16

Yeah, I love I love that message. The uh a lot of times we're we're praying, God, show me your will, show me your will. And I'm I'm sure he's sitting up there thinking, I've already showed you a lot of my will. You're looking for something real specific, but 90% of my will has already been really clearly you know gifts and given to you. I'm waiting for you to act, you know. So I know I love that message as well.

Scott Allen 14:42

And I like the way you said you combined it with the fact that you wanted to make the world better, that got you into politics and got you to Washington, D.C. But you know, at least in your experience, that seemed like kind of a dead end. So you wanted to shift gears and and pursue that kind of thing that God had wired you for, right? You know, this I really want to make a difference here in the world and I want to do it specifically on this cause of pro-life. So that was uh I uh Anton, I'd like to ask a question because often when I talk to Christians, I'm just thinking of Christians in the church I attend, um, and I ask them about their work, uh you know what I get in response very often is this kind of I don't know, apologetic kind of response. It's like, oh, it's nothing important. Oh, it's you know, oh, I just I'm an accountant or I just teach high school or you know, it's it's this kind of uh the you know, demeaning or downgrading of of the work that they do. And you know, and then when I say they ask me, well, what do you do? I say, Oh, I work in Christian ministry, you know, I'm in a discipleship ministry, they go, Oh my gosh, how important, right? You know, that is what you're doing really matters. What I, you know, I mean, this is the subject, what I'm doing doesn't matter. You know, I'm just I'm just running a coffee business or whatever it is. Uh why do you think that do you agree with that? Uh do you see that? And why do you think that's the case? Why do we have this kind of way of thinking here?

Your Vocation As Ministry

Speaker 3 16:00

Yeah, well, unfortunately, I do see that. And it's really this this false narrative that ministry is inside the four walls of the church and that work is separate, and we don't have um authority or um influence or really I'd say just like conviction to understand that like everything we do is ministry and specifically work. Like, specifically what we're gifted and talented is what we're called to use for ministry. And a lot of it is going to be very secular tasks. You know, I'd say even for us, we're kind of an outlier. We're very like we're pro-life by nature, we're Christian by nature, and you know, some businesses or things you'll do won't be necessarily like that explicit, but it's important to see that it's ministries too. Um, one of my favorite passages is Matthew 25 parable of the talents, and you really kind of read that and you understand that God has given people talents, but it also requires much of what he's given. And if you have breath in your lungs, you have a talent to use for the Lord. And also say you're required to use it for the Lord, um, and really to see your vocation as your ministry in some capacity. And it's, you know, and you know, this is where the good faith comes in. You know, a lot of times we might not see like how God is using our work because we can like write it off as like non-important or it's not, you know, directly impacting like some mission or something directly with the church. It's it's secular, but all of that is meant to be used for God's glory. And I'm convinced we have a lack of um people um who claim to be Christian, which I'm sure they are, but also like who see that calling to like live out in business, live out in their work. And um, I think if we took that approach, we would understand that like there's a lot more impact we can be having in the marketplace, um, and not just stuck inside the four walls of the church.

Scott Allen 17:45

Absolutely. And not just in the marketplace. I mean, in you name the sector of the sphere, media, entertainment, agriculture, whatever, you know, whatever people are doing. Um Oz Guinness has this great um l phrase or you know, kind of saying that I it really stuck with me. He said, God has his people where he wants them. You know, in other words, they're everywhere. They're in the school and in the home and in the business and everywhere. But he follows it up by saying they're not being his people where they're at, you know. They've somehow disconnected the work that they do from their calling. Um anyways, that's kind of what I hear you saying. Um, just a quick kind of side question, how do what why coffee? I'm just kind of curious on that. Like, how did you how

Why Coffee And Why Excellence

Scott Allen 18:30

did you say I'm gonna start a coffee company to to do to raise it was you know, like I like I was saying earlier, is is it was really well I didn't mention this.

Speaker 3 18:38

I I truly had a passion for coffee. Okay, you know, you love coffee, like we all do. I love coffee. I was getting into coffee, I was learning about coffee, I was drinking specialty coffee, and it was like coffee's really cool. I mean, it's a one of the it's the second largest commodity in the world traded outside of oil. It's uh an amazing one. Yeah, yeah, and so it's funny. People run on crazy, people run on you know oil and gas to transport them around, and they run on coffee to get them going around too.

Scott Allen 19:04

The Moragonians, by the way, I just need to remind you. There you go. So you guys know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 19:07

That's a big coffee culture. And you know, so it really was like a personal passion. Like I said, I Googled pro life coffee and nothing came up. I was like, how's there no one like doing this? Like, this is an incredible, you know, tool, coffee, to really advocate for a mission and product that um, you know, that I deeply care about, which is the pro-life issue. And so that's kind of how it all got connected. Um, there was definitely a market opportunity for it. And I had a huge passion for it. And so for us, you know, it was really, it really we didn't want to just like slap pro life on a generic bag of coffee. You can buy cheap coffee from, you know, toll roasters and get like some type of generic private label. We really wanted to have an excellent product. And so success for us is excellence in admission and excellence in product. Like, I really think we as Christians, we have to understand, especially if you want to get into business, is that we are we are called to lead the way in our ideas, in our services, in our products we create. Um, it's not about just creating a cheaper, less exciting version that just has Christian attached. It's about creating a product or service that on its own is fundamentally better. And so what we're doing on the coffee side, we're really doing that. You know, we don't buy through an in uh through a brokerage, we buy direct trade from farmers we personally know with our import partners. This allows us to know um every single cup of coffee you drink from us. We personally know the farmers who grew it, how it's processed, how it's transported. It allows us to them to we can pay them directly. So they're not getting pennies on the dollar. They're receiving up to three times fair trade. It's supporting their local economy. And I love talking about this that every bag of coffee you drink from Seven Weeks Coffee is directly supporting farmers across the globe and what they're doing from their, from they have a coffee, some from their coffee business to supporting their, you know, local. Like I just went the in the Dominican Republic, and you know, all the impact the coffee farm has there on the community is amazing, like employs hundreds of people. And that's not just us buying it. There's a lot of people buying the coffee, but you could see the direct impact, and um that's a huge thing we do. Some of how we source it to the quality, being specialty grade, making sure it's all organically farmed, meaning no pesticides or harsh chemicals on it. It's all clean, natural. We also third-party lab tests to ensure it's mold-free. So we want to like on a product level be the best there is. And that's fundamental to our success because we believe that like we are called not to just be average, but to be exceptional in what we do and we work. And so we were very particular on the coffee resource and the testing that it goes through. It's very rigorous. And um, you know, that's something that um, you know, we're really proud of.

Scott Allen 21:38

I'd like to drill in on that. And Luke, I'm sorry, I'm dominating. I want to uh have you come in with some questions as well, but I'd like to drill in on that because I was um I was exchanging um communications, um, actually was on social media last week with somebody, and they were critiquing Marxism. And I'm believe me, I I have no problem, right, critiquing Marxism. Marxism, it's uh demonic, right? You know. But then they went on went around and said, you know, uh capitalism, right? That's what that's what's good, right? Marxism, bad capitalism, good. And and I had a response to that, which was, well, maybe, you know, uh it depends, right? Capitalism can also be very bad, right? It can um do all sorts of destructive things, right? If it's pursuing maybe profit at the expense of everything else, or if it's trying to profit off of something that's really harmful to people, pornography or whatever it is. You know, I mean, there's all sorts of ways that it can go wrong. But what I hear you saying in your experience, Anton, is um yeah,

People Before Profits In Business

Scott Allen 22:40

capitalism, good, but uh there it you know, it has to be shaped, it it has to be shaped and defined beyond just merely looking for profit. Uh explain a little bit about your thinking on that.

Speaker 3 22:51

Yeah, there's a morality aspect to capitalism that's often overlooked. And, you know, so it and this is a fun topic, you know, as I'm a conservative, you know, I do believe that, you know, free markets and you know, uh capitalism isn't the best system, but we have to also understand that there's there can easily be abuse of it, you know, uh if we're all about just chasing profits and squeezing the last cent out um into the bottom line and not caring how we treat people or how we take care of our product or trying to cut corners, and you know, that's what every business owner has to um, you know, be transparent with, at least in themselves, and know if um um and really so they can honor their customers. And so for us, like we we are very happy that we pay farmers more money, even though it costs us more. Um we're really happy that we provide an exit excellent product.

Scott Allen 23:37

I hear you putting a high value on human life, you know, and and so again, that that is very biblical and very true, you know, both on the part of the producers of the coffee in Dominican Republic or wherever, and on the part of the the people that are gonna be uh drinking the coffee, right? You know, or whatever, whoever the people are, I suppose. So absolutely.

Speaker 3 23:54

We call it pro-abundant life, you know, from the farmers we get to support to the moms of the pregnancy care centers, like all that really matters, you know. Holistically, it's about taking care of people and that business should uplift people before profits. Um, but I believe when you do that, you know, you're gonna have success and you will be profitable. And as a company, we we are profitable. We want to be profitable, but that's not the ultimate goal. Like there's a very like ordered things, and God has an order. When you uplift people over profits, um, you really um have create uh sustainable and I believe life-changing impact. And um, that's really the order you want to keep in our business.

Scott Allen 24:30

There's an order, I like that. And yeah, and making sure you're got you've got a biblical order that uh yeah, and it and it's not opposed to profit, right? You know, I mean that gets back to the parable that you were you were talking about. You know, the parable uh Luke, what is it? Luke, it's from the book of Luke.

Speaker 3 24:44

Luke and Matthew, yeah. Matthew 25 has it, which is the one I read. But which is a great point because the the thing it's interesting in the parable of talents, there's like this implied directive to go multiply your talents. Like go make a profit, like go produce a return.

Scott Allen 24:58

Make this world better, in other words, you know, right? Leave it better than you found it, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3 25:02

And if I will say it's there's there's another false narrative in, I believe, in Christianity, where we're like, we're scared to um have success or to um build wealth. And what I mean by that is that we can be so um turned off by it because we're scared that the love of money is the root of all evil, which is true, but also that like if we abdicate business, which businesses do make money, the wealth of money is going to be in the hands of people who don't love the Lord. And I'm also concerned about that. Um I would love your, you know, your opinion on that, but please push back on me if you don't agree. But I really believe I'd rather see the world in which businesses that are successful, profitable, owned by those who love the Lord, because then they can steward those resources for the Lord and really then use the resources, use the profit for good for his kingdom, versus uh letting it be abdicated to the secular um um in society. So that's just how I see it.

Scott Allen 26:00

Well, absolutely. I mean, I will say this there's um a lot of maybe they're not Christian believers yet, but they've been deeply shaped by uh Christianity in terms of their values. They have a high value of treating people well ethically, kind of strong morality shaped by the Bible. And they can run great companies. It's it's these companies that are very, I don't know how I say it, very secular, very amoral. And that they're yeah, they they are very worrisome. Sometimes I wonder if I could should worry more about those than um you know the the Marxists that are out there trying to trying to have a centrally owned centrally owned economy.

Speaker 3 26:40

Business is not you know bipartisan anymore. There's like a worldview behind it. There's you know um dollars and profits being made that are being used to advance a certain ideology. And as Christians, we need to um not advocate that, but compete against it.

Scott Allen 26:56

Yeah, I think the one example that comes to my mind right now, and I know this can be a controversial example, but it seems like post-COVID, we're learning a lot about the pharmaceutical industry, which makes a lot of money on vaccines. And so consequently, they want people to be getting a lot of vaccines, and uh that can put them at odds with uh, you know, any kind of ill side effects that those vaccines may have, but also we want people to kind of be sick because when they're sick, hey, you know, we make a profit, you know. And I'm like, oh boy, this is really wrong. Something's really, really dangerously wrong here, if that's the mindset behind that,

DNA Impact Update And Partner Message

Scott Allen 27:28

you know.

Speaker 2 27:28

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Choosing An Outspoken Pro-Life Brand

Speaker 2 31:06

Yeah, Anton, this is so fun to hear about um just you know your mission and your vision behind what you guys are doing at seven weeks. And a question I had when I was I was looking over what you guys do is when you started the business, I'm sure you guys had uh you probably thought through this decision of whether you wanted to position yourselves as the Christian pro-life coffee company, or instead of going with that positioning, going with just we want to make great coffee and position ourselves as any other brand kind of neutral out there. And yes, we're Christians, but we don't want to like label us that way. Um, could you walk us through that decision? Uh, and obviously, you guys definitely are leaning into making just great coffee. I can attest to that, it's delicious. But um you also kind of leaned into this uh alternative market, uh kind of like position yourself obviously for the pro-life Christians out there and sought them out as your audience. Um yeah, just again, would you would you mind walking us through how you chose that?

Speaker 3 32:03

If it was 20, 30 years ago, we'd probably try to remain neutral and you know, be a Christian-owned company, obviously, and maybe support pro-life causes, but not make it like about what we're trying to do as a public-facing initiative. But now that's just not how businesses are. There's so many businesses taking a side. And so we were definitely part of this, you know, parallel economy where it's like, no, like if there's this big movement to support anti-biblical and um, you know, just a Christ-less worldview, we want to do the opposite. We want to be clear where we stand, we want to be clear of the initiatives we support. And um, that for us was really owning and taking charge of saying we are a pro-life coffee company and being you know very outspoken about that. And we are proudly doing that. We we will continue to do that. And I believe you know, the the overwhelming support has been people love the concept because they just haven't had the option to, you know, do something love that they love doing every morning, which is drinking coffee and supporting a cause that's so near and dear to their heart. There's literally millions of pro-life Americans, tens of millions, um, that desperately care for the unborn. And now we get to um empower them to support life and also enjoy something they they love doing every morning, which is drinking coffee. So we love being outspoken about it, and in today's age, it's important to be clear where you stand on these on these issues.

Speaker 2 33:24

Yeah, I saw an interesting stat that came out. It's it's probably old now, but I think it's probably still true. Uh, Gen Z more than any other generation likes to buy products that align with their values, and they care about that more than other generations, so they'll actually research the company, what the company stands for before they before they put their dollars towards it. So uh it's interesting what you said about how 20, 30 years ago you might have positioned yourself differently. Uh whereas nowadays a lot of companies like to wear their values on their sleeve. Um, and that can be very annoying for the consumer, at least for me a lot of times, because you know, all these companies I normally support are have completely anathetical values to me, and I feel bad when I, you know, spend money on their products. So um do you think there's even a space now for that kind of positioning where you just don't come out as hey, we're a Christian company? I know like Chick-fil-A's got in trouble with this because sometimes they try to be uh not really overtly Christian, but then other times people call them out. Like you guys are obviously Christian, they try to like trap them and put them in boxes and have this kind of ongoing battle. I don't even keep up with it, but it seems really difficult to play that game of I'm a Christian in the business, but not overtly Christian in the US today, with just how hyper politicized everyone is, you know.

Speaker 3 34:39

It's true. I think I think you have to just be prayerfully considering that as a business owner of like what God's calling you to for us as being very overtly clear. I think there's gonna be other businesses though, it's really like services businesses or local businesses that you know we just want to serve the broader community, and obviously they're Christians, um, and there's wisdom in you know, just um letting your witness speak for itself. It doesn't have to be overtly um, you know, like on every you know, business card or on your website, but um obviously still um living out a biblical worldview with what you're doing in business. But I think there's a balance to that. But at least for us in other businesses, yes, there's a big opportunity, I think, for more businesses to be clear on where they stand. And the most overlooked consumer is not the far-left progressive liberal. It's the um center right or right of center, you know, conservative Christian who loves the Lord. Those are the ones that are overlooked in the marketplace right now. So there's probably a large opportunity to continue to build products and services that specifically speak to them.

Scott Allen 35:41

I think you're absolutely a hundred percent correct on that, that that is the biggest overlooked audience in it or market. And I can see you saying, hey, what's it what a great opportunity. I I I have noticed the trend too. I think we all notice it. You know, I here in Oregon, Luke and I, we love the out-of-doors and love to hike. So we like these companies, right? These big companies like REI or Patagonia. And, you know, this is just one example amongst so many. But you saw it about 10 years ago. They said, we're really gonna lean into um, you know, kind of a values-driven approach. And the values that we want to support are, like you say, far left, progressive, woke, rainbow flags, um, you know, whatever the woke uh, you know, Black Lives Matter issue is, you know, we're gonna give 20% of our 10% of our profits to the Southern Poverty Law Center, right? They just leaned into that. And so all of a sudden I'm like, oh, I really loved this company and I love their products. But now it's like, oh, darn, you know. Darn, you know, and you're right, you know, so so now there's Christian companies doing the same thing like yours. And I think there's these, you know, phone companies, or you know, there's just different companies that are saying, we're gonna market explicitly to that audience. And I can see both sides of this. I can see that it's it's good, like it's a it's an underserved market, but I I struggle sometimes on the broader thing where I'm like, gosh, I just kind of long for the day when I could just enjoy my uh coffee or I could enjoy my, you know, my uh you know, outdoor sporting goods without having to worry about supporting some kind of you know, far-left cause or whatever it is. You know, just can we just like can we just provide good good uh products, services to the consumers, you know? Um I'm sure you feel that too.

Speaker 3 37:24

I wish that was the case too. Yeah, I mean it's just I mean it's unfortunate the world we live in. I it kind of is no way around it except we just have to fight against it, stand up to it, and um you know not not close our eyes to what's going on, which is there's this like political ideology being forced on consumers, and um we need alternatives for it for sure.

Scott Allen 37:45

Aaron Powell But do you think that the the alternative or the solution is to have businesses

The Parallel Economy And Consumer Values

Scott Allen 37:50

like yours that are marketing exclusively to the opposite group, right? You know, let's say conservative Christians. I mean um Yeah, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3 37:59

I I think it's both. No, I don't think it's like that's the only alternative. I think Christians should see their job in you know secular America or you know, very corporate culture that's their job to just to promote godly values and and to just at least to try to tamper against what's going on and to be a buffer. Um and I'm sure there's a lot of um opportunity to just build companies where it's just about the product or service. And as Christians, it's you're welcome to you know use the dollars you make from that to support you know your personal belief, but it doesn't have to be a public belief. I think that's totally fine too. You know, I think we need to be creative in all of our solutions here, which is to to recapture what God has, you know, given authority, which is you know, truly everything on earth he's given authority to believers to to um you know use for his good and for his glory. So if that's using you know secular companies or products to, you know, to move towards a more godly biblical worldview, let's do that too.

Scott Allen 38:55

Yeah, yeah. And I think you were saying that earlier. You were saying, you know, I don't I I want to I don't want the biggest companies and products in the in the in the economy to be in the hands of people that are really hostile to God, right? I mean, I I I want and so that's kind of an argument to say I want the best coffee company I can in the market, kind of regardless of who the you know the uh the the the person who's per uh uh you know uh purchasing or consuming the product is. Um but I do I definitely I I love all that to say, I love what you're doing. I think it's really powerful that you have this vision to um give a portion of your uh profit to pro the pro life movement. What a what a powerful you know vision that God clearly has given to you.

Speaker 3 39:40

Yeah, the pro life movement is completely underserved. Um give 10% of every sale, which is actually upwards of 50% of our profits. That's a huge portion of what we make. Um because we believe that the pro-life movement needs more funding than ever. I mean, just for your audience's knowledge, 0.2% of all charitable donations in the US ends up in the hands of a prolife group. Think about the most vulnerable, the people that receive the funding the most are the ones who rarely receive it. And so, yeah, I mean, if it's staggering statistics statistics.

Scott Allen 40:10

And I'm yeah, I'm just you know, this this last week, you know, the the whole situation with the Southern Poverty Law Center, that nonprofit, you know, kind of blew up in the news. And you saw just how much money they're able to raise, like millions of dollars from some of the largest corporations, right? Whether it's Google or you know, Microsoft or whoever, you know, they're they're getting all of this money. But here on the good guys' side, yeah, they're struggling, like you say. So um, anyways, uh yeah, good for you. Good for you for for your vision there. Um I want to uh, Anton, I'd like to circle back and you talked about the difference that it makes for you as a Christian working within the framework of a biblical worldview, biblical morality, a biblical view of the good and the true and the beautiful. Um for your business, you talk about, you know, profit's important, but it can't be the only thing that's important, or maybe not even the most important thing. There's other things that are important, and you mentioned specifically our value for a human life, whether the human person is the producer, consumer, employee. What other values like that are really important for you? What kind of rises to the surface as a Christian uh who is leading a very successful business?

Speaker 3 41:25

Yeah, I mean, the other one, uh just going back to the product, like excellence in product is a human. Like, yeah, the idea that whatever we put forth has to be our best. Where do you get that?

Scott Allen 41:36

Where do you get that from scripture? Like, where do is there a passage or something that kind of really drives you to that?

Speaker 3 41:40

Um, one I would just say it's like this overall conviction I have is that if we're called to like represent the Lord, um we should do that to the best of our ability. Um blinking the proverbs of uh the

Christian Ambition Without Selfish Ambition

Speaker 3 41:55

the chapter verse, but commit um all that you do.

Scott Allen 41:58

Yeah, in whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.

Speaker 3 42:00

Yeah, that's uh yes, this idea that like everything we're doing is you know to represent the Lord. And yeah, I just I've seen so many people with big hearts and very undisciplined manners of execution those ideas. Like a big heart's not gonna get it done. Just because like you have a heart for the cause or the mission or the product, like there's a real world um hurdle you have to get over, which is you need to be the best. And you know, strive for that and hold yourself to a high standard. Uh I love that excellent eight players.

Scott Allen 42:31

Yeah.

unknown 42:32

Yeah.

Scott Allen 42:33

And I I think that that comes just from you know, partly it just comes from an observation of God's work, right? And just the excellence in his work, you know, that this perfection and beauty and incredible intricacy. And it's like, wow, if I'm made in his image, I've got to kind of model something off of that, off of his creation. So, and uh yeah, I love that. Go ahead, Luke. Yeah.

Speaker 2 42:53

Yeah, I was just thinking, Anton, when you were first describing that that day when you had the whole vision for this, for this company, and I just the name that kept coming to mind is Bezel. We like talking about Bezelel around here. We're big fans of Bezel. And he gets a short reference in the Old Testament, but he's the guy that actually designed most of the interior of the temple. So he was like a graphic designer, carpenter, craftsman. And his description is he worked with excellence at everything he did. He was a true artist in what he did. And for that reason, um, he's one of the few people in the old testament that God specifically gives a Holy Spirit to, and he fills him with the Holy Spirit to go and be an artist in the temple and work with excellence. And it sounded like something similar with you where you had this day where it just clicked in your mind like, I want to do this business, and then everything seemed to line up, and it's like that's probably a Holy Spirit work in there. Like he was he was really clearly behind what you guys are doing right there from the get go. Um, so I just I just the name Desolf came to mind and someone who worked with excellence first and foremost. Um Anton, you you seem like a young guy, um, I'm guessing. We're probably the same age, but you're clearly killing it. Um, what do you when it comes to like Christians and ambition? Sometimes people have a little bit of a hard time with that. It's kind of like Christians and making money, you know. It's should we do that? Should we not? Is it okay? Um, you're ambitious. Um, where do you see that in the scripture?

Speaker 3 44:18

Let me say this like I can just be as transparent as you know, I'll be as transparent as I can, is like I am very ambitious. I want to have a very successful business, I want it to be profitable. I want to sell tens of millions. We, you know, we we we're already hopefully do north of $15 million this year in revenue. Like that'd be our that'd be our goal. And um, so we are growing fast, and and I just share that for your audience to know is like, you know, I want to grow a successful business, and I have to, in my heart, um, just be very aware of that like it's not all about growth. Um there's a balance, there's a balance to making sure we're always keeping the mission foreign, you know, foremost in our minds in the impact we serve, but also know as we grow, we can have a 10 times impact. You know, I would love to be donating $10 million a year to the pro-life movement, which obviously I don't get do the math. If that's 10% of every sale, you're talking $100 million in coffee. That would be awesome. That gets me very, very excited. And so I don't think that's like against um anything that like God um um, you know, calls us to, because I really think it's about using and channeling what he's put on our hearts for his good. And there's like a balance you have to walk in, you know. And this is where like the Christian life is like a dying to self daily, like there's this daily like fight and struggle we all have. You don't like you you don't um struggle with the love of money once, you struggle with it constantly. You don't struggle with pride once, you struggle with it constantly. And so you have to just continue to walk out these values that um are clear in scripture daily. Like you gotta put up your guardrails, and I need to do that every day. And is if I did it today, doesn't mean it's gonna be, you know, there tomorrow. I have to re-recenter my life to the Lord. And, you know, it's I something I have to keep doing. I have been perfect at it, you know, it's easy to think about success and make it all about that. Um, so it's really this balancing act that we have to have as Christians where we're constantly like making sure our hearts are in the are in the right position, the right motive. But at the same time, it's not to abdicate ambition or to think success is only for the secular or you know, all of that. Like, I just I don't think it's the opposite either, where we just sit idly by and say, well, the Lord's coming back, therefore I'm gonna just sit right here and not do anything and um let let him handle it. It's like we don't want to over-en-emphasize that either. Like, you know, you you could you can be an ambitious Christian, and I try to I try to walk that out. And um, yeah, I'm happy to answer more questions about that because I'm very uh very passionate about that. And um, it's something we all need to tamper with, just to balance with in our lives.

Scott Allen 46:58

Well, what I hear you saying, Anton, and I really appreciate it, is that uh ambition and striving and pushing to be as good as we can be, to be as successful as we can be, there's nothing unbiblical or wrong about that. But where it can go wrong is if it if that ambition or push or drive becomes about something other than God or his glory, right? If it becomes about me, you know, or my desire for wealth or my desire for fame or recognition, you know, that would be what the Bible I think calls selfish ambition, right? You know, uh that's where it goes off the rails. But uh that's not to throw out ambition, right? That would be throwing out the baby with the bathwater. And I think it's it's just like you said in that great parable of the talents, you know, God is it's funny. There's so many, if you go back and read Jesus' parables, so many of them are about making a profit. Like take what I've given you and do something with it and really push into that, like get the biggest possible return you can get. You know, it's a call to be strive, you know, to work hard, to be ambitious, but for God's glory, for his purposes, right? That's I am I catching you correct on that.

Speaker 3 48:08

Yes, totally. I mean, it's it's definitely a balance. Like I said, like it's not something you solve once in your life, right? It's a continuous thing.

Scott Allen 48:14

And correct.

Speaker 3 48:16

As long as I'm alive, I'm going to have to continually to check that in my heart and balance that and to be, you know, just um aware of that temptation that we could fall one way or another on the issue. I want to be an ambitious Christian for the Lord. That's as simply as I can put it.

Scott Allen 48:30

So we talked about your obviously huge value on human life, and uh that includes um even the the amount of money that you're giving to pro-life causes, uh, much less how you treat employees and coffee producers. Um, this striving for excellence, as Oswald Chambers said, my utmost for his highest, which I love that you know, name of that great dialogue. Yeah, me too. My utmost, my very best for his highest. It's such a great title. What else? Um if you could just put pull down a couple of others that really are important for you that really drive uh kind of your vision for for running Seven Weeks Coffee, Anton.

Speaker 3 49:10

Yeah, you know, a lot of this um it's funny. Uh it's I've been doing this for five years

Risk, Marriage, And Ordered Loves

Speaker 3 49:15

and I'm still learning stuff every single day. So a lot of a lot of um you know our growth and the things we're doing, it's it's it's being okay with failure too. You know, it's understanding that life's about learning, um, life's about failing quickly and correcting quickly. Um on the real practical side, I've I've always, you know, the I've always seen business and life as you have to understand the just the relationship between the two. It's like your personal life has to be in order for your business life to be successful. And so um your relationship with your spouse affects their relationship with your business. And so you have to understand there's all these other things that take into play with your business. And so for me, it's like all everything has to be in a healthy working order because it's all interconnected. Um, and so when I had the idea for seven weeks coffee and we were just married, and I put $3,500 in a bank account to like start it, and then we had to put another $10,000 into the business to get it going. And that was, you know, it was a lot of money. We were like a couple months into marriage and you know, 25 years old and taking this risk. And but there also was like a piece because we were we had some savings, we weren't like risking it all. And so I remember like every step we took was like proportional to what we felt comfortable with, and so I remember just I'm very happy how we grew. Like I never went all in to the extent of like risking like um our personal um financial situation or like putting everything on the line where if it went wrong, like it's gonna be very detrimental to our life, to our marriage. And so I just was like very like cautious of like building within like a framework of you know, if we do this, like it's okay if it doesn't go well, but it's not gonna like jeopardize the business or you know, our personal situation or something like that. And I just think that's really important is you know, sometimes we we we can uh want to roll the dice too much, and I guess some people do that in business. That's just that's honestly just not for me. Um, but like, yeah, there's a really practical nature to you know just making those inner dynamics or are or you're aware of them, really.

Scott Allen 51:16

Well, I hear, yeah, I hear you kind of it's it's similar to this idea of the order of loves that uh certain things are more important than other things, and it it's really important for the Christian to keep those that order aligned biblically, you know. And um, you're right, your relationship to your wife, your family um has to be more important than your business. And if it turns out to be the opposite way, things can really go bad, right? You know. Um and that that that that's a principle or a truism that applies throughout life. You know, if I if I love my kids more than my wife, right, that it that that that's a disordered kind of love, right? And things are gonna go wrong, you know. And so um, yeah, that uh that's that's what I hear you saying, Anton. That's very biblical, very wonderful. Um I've got a final question then, Luke. I think maybe you may want to have a a chance at asking a final question to Anton as well. But I I Anton, I'd like to just hear your

Stop Waiting And Use Your Talents

Scott Allen 52:07

thoughts. If you could um talk to somebody who's maybe your age or younger, who really um you know, trying to understand, hey, what is my calling? What's God called me to do, what's my purpose? Um what advice do you give to people like that who are unsure and maybe they have this idea that again that we talked about earlier that if it you know, if I really want to make a difference, um, you know, it's gotta be something quote unquote spiritual, you know, um missionary pastor, something in the church. Um what advice do you have for those kind of people?

Speaker 3 52:42

I I do, you know, it's funny, I speak to a group of interns every year here in DC, uh, really actually a few times a year. Um, and I my first job at DC was an intern um five years ago. So I literally could resonate with like trying to figure out what to do in life. Um and looking back, I realize this is why I tell everyone is like we're so obsessed with what's God's calling, and we don't realize that his calling is already here. Like he's given you a talent to use today. And whether it's an internship or if it doesn't see or if it's a small position, like it's of the utmost importance to the Lord because he doesn't judge us on our resume, he judges on our faithfulness to what he's called us to. And so I tell people that it's like we are responsible to be faithful, like we're gonna be judged on our faithfulness, not the title of the resume or the the accolades, it's really the faithfulness too. And so I literally have all every intern go around and write down a list of things they feel like they're good at. It's the funniest exercise because no one wants to say they're good at something, everyone wants to be super humble to the extent of like it's almost like a challenge. Like, would do you believe like God made a mistake? He didn't give you any gifts, like he just looked at that.

Scott Allen 53:49

There's this kind of false humility that's just kind of frustrating sometimes, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3 53:54

And we learn as we go, and like, same for me. I learned business and seven weeks coffee and e-commerce over the years, but I clearly had some type of gift for it to start. And I'm like, he's given you a talent today. You just listed like four different things. It's so funny when they read all their lists, it's they're kind of laughing and giggling of like realizing they have a gift. I'm like, okay, that is what God has given you. Like, use your talents, become incredibly good at them. Use them for the Lord, become successful in them. You know, if that's starting a business within them or becoming a master of them, it's really like this. I believe we're called to be masters of our talents, like to not just to know that he's given us like the seed of something that we're good at, usually a knack, you some type of uh, you know, some type of habit or some type of, you know, something that just comes supernatural to us. And like whatever that is, like that's usually your talent. And that talent is then called to be, you know, the best at it, become a master at it. And um that's really what I love to tell people is like you're called to serve the Lord with your talents today. I would start there. Um, and then I would also say, you know, we also have this false idea that we're there's only one path we can go down.

Scott Allen 54:55

Like if this job is version that fear, yeah. So true.

Speaker 3 54:59

Yeah. And it's like, no, like God can lead you on multiple paths. I'm I'm very convinced like we pause way too much, and like the answer is just pick something you believe you can serve the Lord at and go for that. And if he changes your mind or you know, pivots you, he'll do that. But you know, um, you can't steer a part call. You have to get moving to steer it. So I think the Lord kind of steers us as we we move at the same time.

Scott Allen 55:21

And and don't be kind of like petrified by, oh, I'm on the wrong route or the wrong path. Yeah, that's a really well said I run into that quite a bit, especially with young people. Oh my gosh, I'm you know, it it can be overwhelming because in a free country, there's a lot of things you can do, right? And uh, you know, there's that.

Speaker 3 55:39

There's a lot of things you can do, and there's a lot, and there's a lot of people that just try to wait to for it to happen to them. That's the wrong calling. We have to take life um by the hands and to to work with our hands and to um understand that like we we can have we we we actually can um uh take steps that l lead to um what God has called us to. It's like we kind of are so much you know stuck in neutral and like we've got to get it in a gear here.

Scott Allen 56:05

No, well said. It's it's uh as I say, it's our our first job description, right? Uh have dominion, right? Take dominion, rule over this world, make it better, you know. Take take coffee beans and make a coffee company and do something good in the world, right? That's that's the first job description that God gives us, you know. So, Luke, uh I'll let you have the final question as we wrap up with Anton.

Speaker 2 56:27

Oh, I'm I'm I that was a great uh answer to the last question. I'm so resonating with that. That was great. I just got an eye on the clock here. We probably should wrap it up. But Anton, I just really appreciate you and your time today and everything you guys are doing over at Seven Weeks Coffee. I think it's an awesome mission, awesome business. Uh seems like you guys are really doing great. I hope to continue to hear great reports from you guys. Um I'm still kind of stuck on that stat. What did you say? It was 0.2% of all charitable charitable giving in the US is towards pro life movement for this administration. Um that's yeah, that's hard to hear, especially when we were just talking about ordered love. It's there's there's an order to where we should be giving as well. Uh and man, I I'm convinced that um abortion is the greatest injustice of our time. Absolutely. Um and it's worth more than two percent or point two percent. Um, so

How To Support Seven Weeks

Speaker 2 57:20

that's just something I'm gonna take away from from today and think about with my own giving. Um, but yeah, again, just thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate this conversation.

Scott Allen 57:28

Anton, how do people uh you know, they're hearing about you and your coffee company, Seven Weeks Coffee, and they say, hey, I want to buy some seven weeks coffee. How do they do that?

Speaker 3 57:36

Yeah, it's online, sevenweekscoffee.com. We'll ship anywhere in the United States. Um, also if you're a church or know a church that has a coffee shop, we're work, we're starting to work a lot more of like church coffee shops. You know, we believe that they could have a prolife mission as well with their coffee. So seven weeks coffee. There you go.

Scott Allen 57:52

To all of our listeners, go to sevenweekscoffee.com and buy some coffee. That's what I want you to do today. Go buy some coffee, try it out. I think I'll uh do that myself. So Anton, thanks so much. It's been just a joy. I just so appreciate your spirit and your vision and just your your your love for these really, really great values that you talked about, biblical values of uh elevating you know, people and uh uh striving and biblical ambition to honor God and uh really serve and to make the world better. Keep up the great work. Just keep it up. God bless you.

Speaker 3 58:24

Thank you guys.

Speaker 5 58:25

Thank you guys, appreciate you having me on the pleasure.