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ReDiscovering America Disney with Jay
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Welcome And Travel Catch-Up
Speaker 3Welcome to the See Michaelson Travel Podcast, a ZMAX Radio production presented by Collage Travel Media Network. This is your space for inspiration, confidence in travel, and a little bit of luxury and adventure. So whether you're traveling across the world, rediscovering America, or simply dreaming about your next escape, we hope we can help guide you. Now, here's See.
SpeakerHey,
Saratoga Springs Resort Overview
Speakerit's C. Michaelson here, and you know what? Like I promised, I brought Jay Lawrence back. Both of us have been doing a little bit of traveling in these past few weeks, and I went up to New York, and Jay, you stayed local right here
Speaker 2in Florida. Oh, I traveled all around the world. I went to Disney World. You went to Disney. Yeah.
SpeakerSo where did you stay in Disney?
Speaker 2Well, since we're DVC members, today, or, well, we were there on the 4th of July,
Speakerand we- Okay, so the holiday weekend.
Speaker 2Yeah. Mm-hmm. We stayed at the Saratoga Springs Resort and Spa.
SpeakerOh, okay. I know exactly that, that, in Saratoga Springs.
Speaker 2It's one of the... It's one of the older resorts, older DVC buildings.
SpeakerIt is. It really is.
Speaker 2And it came, it was in the sa- same place where they had the, um, Disney, uh, University. It wasn't Disney University. It was called Disney Academy or something like that.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And so that didn't go over real big, so they built Saratoga Springs all around it.
SpeakerNow, you went to Saratoga Springs Resort-
Speaker 2Mm-hmm
Speakerand I was up near Saratoga Springs in New York.
Speaker 2Oh, my goodness. How close could we be?
SpeakerRight. A couple- So we both spent some
Speaker 2time there thousand miles apart, yeah.
SpeakerOkay. So-
Speaker 2Well, you know, Saratoga Springs was a, a, a horse racing place in- It still is in New York.
SpeakerIt still is.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, and it was built like in the 1800s- Yes in New York.
SpeakerMm-hmm.
Speaker 2But, uh, so they put the Victorian style resort charm at Disney.
SpeakerYes. It
Speaker 2is very pretty. And you know one of the, one of the things I, uh, discovered was that they didn't want to put any palm trees in the resort area. They wanted it to look like the new, the newly, the New York area. So there's no palm trees in, uh, Saratoga Springs.
SpeakerThat's pretty odd considering there's probably palm trees all around the outside- Well, of
Speaker 2course
Speakerof this resort. Of
Speaker 2course. But I, I, it just, it just had a different feel to it.
SpeakerNow, a funny story.
Speaker 2Yeah?
SpeakerUh, years ago I used to live up near Saratoga Springs.
Speaker 2No.
SpeakerYes. And the track was one of my clients.
Speaker 2Oh, really?
SpeakerAnd, uh, my cousin and I went to have some lunch there- Uh-huh during racing season, and we were down at the bottom, and we were having a nice lunch, and we just finished lunch, and there were several tiers of the restaurant.
Speaker 2Mm.
SpeakerSo above us was another table and chairs, and the waitress didn't realize when she dumped the water pitcher out, that there were people below.
Speaker 2Oh, no.
SpeakerYes. Yes. My cousin got a little bit drenched with the water that was dumped on her head. Needless to say, that lunch was free that day. Oh,
Speaker 2yeah. Another thing about, uh, Saratoga Springs, if I may mention it- Mm-hmm you can see the golf course. It kinda wanders around it, and so you can see that from, from the village itself or from the resort.
SpeakerOkay. So if you're staying at Saratoga Springs, can you go and play golf?
Speaker 2I think you can.
SpeakerOh, fabulous.
Speaker 2You can go play golf wherever you're at.
SpeakerNow, I know you haven't played golf in a while.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerAnd I know your wife used to play as well. Does she... Did she go play golf?
Speaker 2She threw her golf clubs away when she married
Speakerme. She figured, "Well, you're not gonna go." Yeah. "Mind if I get rid of them?" So now you spent some time up at Disney for the holiday.
Speaker 2Right.
Turf Club Dining And Treehouse Villas
Speaker 2I gotta mention, you know, you're gonna ask me about food.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And Saratoga Springs has a great Surf Club Bar and Grill.
SpeakerOkay.
Speaker 2And we had dinner there one night.
SpeakerWhat did you have?
Speaker 2Well, the, uh... I had... What did I have? I had the prime rib. Everybody else had something different.
SpeakerThat's nice.
Speaker 2Yeah. But I had the prime rib, and it was very good. And, and the thing about the, the Turf Club, it reminds you of an old clubhouse for the racetrack. Oh. So, you know, uh-
SpeakerJust like where my cousin got drenched.
Speaker 2Yes. Yeah. Except there was only one, one floor. Yeah. And also, the, the, um, Saratoga Springs is, has the Treehouse Villas experience, which is part of Saratoga Springs. It's off to the side.
SpeakerNow, I'm very familiar with the Treehouse Villas, 'cause they will house, uh, a few more people than just two to four.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerYes.
Speaker 2Yes. I, I have a family- They have a quite a few I know that they're bringing their whole family down for that.
SpeakerYes. It is very nice. It's real fun. Yeah. It's fun, particularly for the kids.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerSo now-
Speaker 2So that's my Saratoga Springs story.
SpeakerThat's where you stayed.
Speaker 2And I'm gonna... I'm sticking to it. Yeah.
SpeakerSo you stayed in Saratoga Springs, but you can't go to Saratoga Springs without at least attending a couple of the parks.
Speaker 2Right. Right. So- Positives about Saratoga Springs-
SpeakerMm-hmm
Speaker 2they have bus service to all the parks.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2One of the negatives about Saratoga Springs bus service, it's the last stop on the road.
SpeakerIt's the last on the journey coming back- Yeah when you're exhausted.
Speaker 2So you can get to the Magic Kingdom real quick. But plan on a half an hour to get home, you know?
SpeakerSo now,
Upstate New York Pizza And Ice Cream
Speakeryou know, like I said, you know, we've been rediscovering America.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerYou've been, you were here rediscovering right here in our backyard. I went up to New York, um, went to visit my daughter, and she lives in the upstate region of New York.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerUm, just kinda relaxed. She took us to some of the local restaurants up there. And I like to do that
Speaker 2I can't see you reading
SpeakerI know.
Speaker 2I, I just can't see you reading.
SpeakerI, I like to go to the local establishments-
Speaker 2Uh-huh
Speakerbecause I like to give business to the local guys.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerShe brought me to a pizza parlor, and I'm saying that with a New York accent, pizza. Pizza parlor, and it was delicious.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
SpeakerOh, yeah. We had to go there twice, and we were only there for a week, and we had to go twice to this restaurant. Oh,
Speaker 2wow. What kind of pizza did you have?
SpeakerUm, we had the two separate types. They did Sicilian, which is the square thick, and then they had the regular round.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerAnd we tried that, but they used lots of fresh ingredients. Oh, yeah? Fresh basil and fresh Parmesan cheese, and it was all so fresh and delicious.
Speaker 2Now, I'm a crust guy. I like a thin crust pizza. What was the pizza?
SpeakerWell, the round pizza is more of a thinner crust.
Speaker 2Yeah, thinner, but not thin.
SpeakerThinner. It's not like Chicago.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah.
SpeakerYeah. Good Chicago has those thick pizzas.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's why, that's why I love Chicago.
SpeakerBut she also brought us for dessert-
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
Speakerto a place that you don't really see anymore, a drive-in theater.
Speaker 2What?
SpeakerA drive-in.
Speaker 2A drive-in theater?
SpeakerYes, there's two- What was the movie? up where she lives. We didn't go see the movie.
Speaker 2What? Why, you went
Speakerto- We were just going there for the ice cream because they make homemade ice cream.
Speaker 2Oh, my.
SpeakerYes.
Speaker 2Was the theater r- running the movie-
SpeakerRight at the same time? Yeah, the theater was gonna run a movie. You know, we went right before dark.
Speaker 2Oh. Oh,
Speakerokay. So they did have movies gonna be showing there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerBut we had the ice cream there, and it was delicious.
Speaker 2Did they have a big parking lot so you could- Yeah you could park?
SpeakerYeah, they had a parking lot just to get your ice cream. Just for ice cream.
Speaker 2Wow.
SpeakerOr just drive into the theater. Well, do
Speaker 2you remember the name of the place?
SpeakerNo, I don't.
Speaker 2No. Okay. Yeah,
Speakerthere was two of them.
Speaker 2So, and this was in New York?
SpeakerIn New York. New York. Upstate New York.
Speaker 2Oh.
SpeakerUpstate.
Speaker 2Upstate.
SpeakerUpstate.
Speaker 2Upstate New York.
SpeakerNow, I remember going to drive-ins years ago when I was a kid.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerYou don't see many of those anymore.
Speaker 2Well, no. No.
SpeakerAnd
Speaker 2they're fun. The, the- They're fun that could be, I had seen a thing on YouTube about the drive-ins, and that could be, like, one of the only ones left in the country. They have
Speakertwo. They have two?
Speaker 2They have
Speakertwo by them, yes. Oh,
Speaker 2my goodness.
SpeakerYeah. I mean, in the wintertime, naturally it's closing down because- Yeah you know, there's snow on the ground. I remember living in that part of New York, and, you know-
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah
SpeakerI left when there was seven feet of snow in the driveway. I said I had enough of the winter.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerBut she likes the season, so she's back up there. So
Speaker 2when you're in the drive-in, th- they, they run the sound through your car. Through
Speakerthe car.
Speaker 2Right? Mm-hmm. Through a Bluetooth thing.
SpeakerBut some of them, she says one of the locations still has the boxes.
Speaker 2Oh, really?
SpeakerHow funny is that?
Speaker 2Oh.
SpeakerAnd again, privately owned.
Speaker 2Oh, cool.
SpeakerAnd this is all in the United States.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerYeah, so now tell me a little bit more about the parks that you went to.
Magic Kingdom Meals And Park Changes
Speaker 2Oh, are we back at Disney now? We're
Speakerback at Disney. Okay. We're gonna bounce back and forth- We- 'cause we're traveling the United States we,
Speaker 2we came back to Florida. Well, you know, the place to go right now is the Magic Kingdom.
SpeakerYes.
Speaker 2And, um, and of course our family, my... You know, my wife's Italian.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And if you don't know, you're having breakfast, you gotta know what you're having for dinner at night, you know? Of course. Or breakfast the next day.
SpeakerI'm sure she's taken something out of the freezer already- before you left the house today.
Speaker 2But, uh, we ate at the, uh, Liberty Tree Tavern.
SpeakerOh, I love Liberty Tree Tavern.
Speaker 2Oh, right, which is one of my favorite places.
SpeakerIt's a family-style sit-down.
Speaker 2Yes. Mm-hmm. That's... You took the words right out of my wi- my, my mouth And, you know, th- they have different rooms at the f-, uh, Liberty Tree Tavern.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2The rooms are like the Ben Franklin Room, the Jefferson Room, the John Paul Jones Room, Paul Revere, Betsy Ross, and the George Washington Room. Yeah.
SpeakerAnd good old George.
Speaker 2Yes.
SpeakerMm-hmm.
Speaker 2And you know the fun thing about that, you mentioned it's family style, and oh man, I can, uh, eat like-
SpeakerYeah, they give you like ham and turkey- Oh and potatoes and vegetables. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2like Thanksgiving every day. Yeah. Yeah.
SpeakerYeah. But- And they just keep bringing it over oh, yeah Once you're out of one thing, they just keep bringing it over. Yeah. Now, were the characters in there?
Speaker 2No, not, no. No characters.
SpeakerThey took the characters away.
Speaker 2Just took the, just the, the, the serving staff is dressed in costume.
SpeakerIn costume.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerCause it used to have the characters. Yeah,
Speaker 2yeah.
SpeakerAnd they o- they too were dressed in period costume.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, but, uh, you know, "Hey, get out. We gotta, we gotta get the folks in here."
SpeakerNow, I didn't tell you, but you know George Washington, I went to go see that movie.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
SpeakerYoung, Young, Young Washington.
Speaker 2Yeah?
SpeakerYeah, it was really good. In the theater? I enjoyed it. In the theater.
Speaker 2Oh, really?
SpeakerIn the theater, the theater. What
Speaker 2did you learn?
SpeakerY- I learned that he had a brother. Oh, oh yeah? I didn't know that he had... It was either a half-brother or, you know, stepbrother. He had an older brother-
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
Speakerwho actually owned Mount Vernon.
Speaker 2Oh.
SpeakerHe owned it, so when he passed on, he bequeathed it- He gave it to George to George.
Speaker 2But did, did they show him chopping down the cherry tree?
SpeakerThey showed him chopping trees.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
SpeakerAnd apparently that's what he did to get his frustrations out, 'cause he was, you know- Ah when he got mad, he would take an ax and chop at trees to get his frustrations out.
Speaker 2Well-
SpeakerBut it was very good. I, there's some of the things in there that you know- Yeah and some of the things that you don't know. Well, cool. I enjoyed the movie.
Speaker 2Can
Speakerwe get- And again, rediscovering
Speaker 2America. Can we, can we get back to Disney, the Magic Kingdom, and the Liberty Tree? Well, we're moving out
Speakerof the Liberty Tavern.
Speaker 2Well, you know, you walk outside the Liberty Tavern, and across the square-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2is the Hall of Presidents.
SpeakerAh, see, president
Speaker 2to president. And that's one of my favorite attractions is to attend that. But then if you look to your left when you're going that way, on your way to the Ha- um, Ma- uh, uh-
SpeakerI'm looking to my left
Speaker 2yeah, you know, the Haunted Mansion.
SpeakerOkay.
Speaker 2It's just a wall of green. They've taken a lot of the magic out because they've taken the river out, the Rivers of America. Oh, they took the river
Speakerout?
Speaker 2You didn't know that?
SpeakerI haven't been to Disney in two years.
Speaker 2Where have you been?
SpeakerSo that big-
Speaker 2The biggest story
Speakerin- steamship is gone?
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerOh, no.
Speaker 2Absolutely. They're gonna put a Cars ride in there. I mean- Oh oh, I cannot believe it. On
Speakerthat side? It doesn't seem to fit.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's just, uh, th- they're, they're theming it to look like mountains and stuff like that, I guess, but-
SpeakerOh, like- But- like Route 66.
Speaker 2Yeah. We'll have to look, but- Right uh, I, I, I was so disappointed because I looked over to my left. I remember the last time, the, uh, over a year ago, I went to Disney to ride the boat one last time, so I made sure I was on that-
SpeakerOh
Speaker 2riverboat going around.
SpeakerYeah, my husband and I were just talking about that the other day, because there are separate passes for us locals.
Speaker 2Right. Right.
SpeakerAnd there's different levels that you can purchase.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerAnd we were talking about that, because we haven't been there in, like, two years.
Speaker 2You... Yeah, yeah. You need to go.
SpeakerYeah, we
Speaker 2do need to. And oh, okay, th- if you walk all the way around where the rivers used to be, Big Thunder Mountain did w- open up again.
SpeakerRight, they renovated
Speaker 2it. They rehabbed it.
SpeakerYeah, they made
Speaker 2it- And, and I didn't get there- bigger and better but I understand the ride is much smoother. So it's a fun ride. I want to get on it the next time I get there.
SpeakerBut the whole idea behind Thunder Mountain was it's supposed to be a rickety, rackety-
Speaker 2Yeah
Speakerexperience because it was, you know-
Speaker 2Going through the mountain.
SpeakerYeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2Well.
SpeakerSo you didn't get on that ride?
Speaker 2I didn't get on it, no.
SpeakerOh, well.
Speaker 2But we did do, uh, Buzz Lightyear.
SpeakerI love Buzz Lightyear. Did that change too?
Speaker 2No.
SpeakerOh.
Speaker 2No. Yeah, that's where you do the
SpeakerRight, you shoot at the little Zs.
Speaker 2Yeah,
Speakeryeah.
Speaker 2Yeah. And tearfully, tearfully-
SpeakerOh, no
Speaker 2we, we went on Carousel of Progress.
SpeakerIt's a great big beautiful tomorrow. Beautiful work. Yeah.
Speaker 2Which is now shut down for rehab.
SpeakerOh, okay. So they're just gonna rehab it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're not, they're not getting rid of it.
Speaker 2Oh, no. They're not getting rid of it. Yeah,
Speakercause wasn't that a, um-
Speaker 2From the World's Fair in- The
SpeakerWorld's Fair
Speaker 2in New York. Yes. Yeah. It, the trouble is they're gonna rehab it back to the 1960s is where it will start.
SpeakerOh, so we're not gonna be as far back-
Speaker 2Right as it started. We're taking our history away. We're missing our history.
SpeakerWell, they, you know, they're trying to add more to the current then.
Speaker 2Well, yeah. Yeah. And the, and they're gonna put an animatronic of Walt in there.
SpeakerOh, that makes sense. Of
Speaker 2Walt- That
Speakerpart makes sense
Speaker 2doing, introducing the show.
SpeakerAnd with today's AI technology, it's probably gonna look like he's really sitting there.
Speaker 2Well, I-
SpeakerWhich is kind of scary.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerSo you went, naturally, of course, you always have to go to the Magic Kingdom.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerBut did you go to any of the other parks?
Speaker 2Well,
Hollywood Studios Star Wars And Dining
Speaker 2yeah. We went to Hollywood Studios.
SpeakerOkay.
Speaker 2So- And that's on page one, by the way
Speakerright, I'm looking at, I'm looking at your notes here. Yeah. I see your notes.
Speaker 2And, and the attractions we went on were the alien swirling saucers.
SpeakerWhat is that?
Speaker 2Of... It's a tilt-a-whirl.
SpeakerIt's a tilt-a-whirl.
Speaker 2I'm gonna call it a tilt-a-whirl. And the funny thing is, when you wait in line, Junior, our youngest grandson- Right this is his ride, you know?
SpeakerOh, he likes it.
Speaker 2Yeah, and you have to go on it. Th- you wait in line 30 minutes, whatever.
SpeakerOh, that's not too bad.
Speaker 2It's a two and a half minute attraction.
SpeakerMost of the attractions are about that length.
Speaker 2Two and a half minutes. I timed it. Two and a half minutes, and, and then let's do it again.
SpeakerWell, if it's only a 30-minute wait, you might as well.
Speaker 2Oh, you bet.
SpeakerBut I, I don't even remember seeing it.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah. Yeah.
SpeakerWhere, what part of the park is it in?
Speaker 2It's in Toyland. You know, you haven't been there.
SpeakerNo.
Speaker 2You haven't been in the Toy Story
Speakerarea. In Toy Story-
Speaker 2Mania
SpeakerI can never get in. I've- It's- When we were there and they had the Toy Story, we tried to get on it. Y- the line was like an hour and a half out. We waited. We got all the way through. We were about five minutes from getting on a ride- Yeah,
Speaker 2it shut down
Speakeror an attraction, and it shut down.
Speaker 2Oh, no.
SpeakerSo my husband and I have not gotten in yet.
Speaker 2Okay. The big, the big thing, of course, is, uh, is Star Wars.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And the Millennium Falcon, the Smuggler's Run r- attraction is something- How
Speakerwas that?
Speaker 2something else.
SpeakerReally?
Speaker 2The line is something else.
SpeakerI'm sure.
Speaker 2The, the, you know, what do, what do you call it? The, the queue to get in.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2It's got all the stuff, and the, you know.
SpeakerSo the line is ex- exciting as well.
Speaker 2I, yeah, yeah, if you look around, yeah.
SpeakerIf you- Now, did you buy the-
Speaker 2No
SpeakerFastPass?
Speaker 2No
Speakeror Speed-
Speaker 2Lightning Round
SpeakerLightning-
Speaker 2Lightning Lane
SpeakerLightning Lane. No,
Speaker 2no.
SpeakerCause you do have to purchase those now. Years ago, you just had to-
Speaker 2Right
Speakerorganize your day, but now you have to purchase them.
Speaker 2Right. Mm-hmm. Now, in the M- in the Millennium Falcon, you actually sit in the cockpit of this rocket ship.
SpeakerOh.
Speaker 2There's six people that sit in
Speakerit. Just like Chewbacca.
Speaker 2Yeah. There, there's, there's a, a pilot, co-pilot, engineer, and the other guy, and I was the guy in the back.
SpeakerYou were the guy in the back.
Speaker 2Yeah. Was- Were you the bombardier? it was still, it was still all interaction. It, it's kind of amazing. I, I was amazed at it.
SpeakerWas it a, was it a long wait for the ride?
Speaker 2Oh, yeah.
SpeakerYeah.
Speaker 2And to get there is something else, too. Right.
SpeakerAnd of course, you went during a holiday weekend.
Speaker 2Well, yeah.
SpeakerAnd so naturally, the park was probably a little bit more crowded than usual.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerOkay. So you had all that experience. Now, did you eat at all at, in the parks?
Speaker 2Well, yes. Uh, of course we ate in the park. We ate at r- um- Uh, the Roundup Rodeo. R- what's his name? Rodeo Roundup, you know.
SpeakerRodeo Roundup?
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerMm-hmm.
Speaker 2And, um, Woody's. Woody's. Woody's Roundup.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And that's family style. We ha- we had lunch there. Right. But it's always great. You know, when they serve family style, y- you never go hungry, and that's in Hollywood Studios.
SpeakerOh, that was in the studios,
Speaker 2okay. But, but of course, okay, here we were, we were in Toyland, we were in, uh, the, the Star Wars. Right. We were in the restaurant- Right which was back in the Star, uh, Toy Story area. But my favorite- Right of, of the Hollywood Studios is the, the Brown Derby.
SpeakerIt's still there.
Speaker 2It's still there. They haven't
Speakertaken
Speaker 2that
Speakeraway yet. I've been, I've been to the Brown Derby there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerWell, then again, I was at the Brown Derby out in California.
Speaker 2And of course, they've got the fabulous Cobb salad and great fruit cake, and, uh, boy, are they good.
SpeakerDid you enjoy that?
Speaker 2They were good. That was good. And, and you know, it brings back the Golden Age of Hollywood, like-
SpeakerIt really does
Speaker 2like, yeah.
SpeakerYeah, it really does. It's a nice setup, and, you know, the restaurant is nice.
Speaker 2And I think-
SpeakerNice
Speaker 2atmosphere two, two of the things I like at the Hollywood Studios is just absolutely walking in the park-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2and looking at what old Hollywood used to look like. Ah. Allegedly. You know, allegedly.
SpeakerAllegedly.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerNow, I know they took away one of the rides that I thought was hysterical, and that was the, uh, Rock 'n' Roller Coaster.
Speaker 2Well, yeah.
SpeakerThey've changed it, I don't know to what.
Speaker 2Well, they put the Muppets in there.
SpeakerOh, the Muppets are in there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerOkay, so it's still a rollercoaster- Yeah type of ride.
Speaker 2It's still the... It's actually the same ride, they just changed the decoration around it.
SpeakerI remember going the first time on there, because I was one of those that I did not like to go upside down, whatever.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerSo I asked my daughter's friend's mother- Uh-huh 'cause she was there, and I said to her, "Does it go upside down?" She goes, "Gee, I don't remember." Well, it does go upside down. Oh,
Speaker 2really? Okay, thank you, 'cause I haven't done it either. I'm, uh- It,
Speakerand, but the things with the Rock 'n' Roller Coaster is you really didn't notice you were going upside down, because when you went upside down, the signs were upside down as well. Oh, no. So, you know, you felt like you were still going in the same direction. Oh,
Speaker 2my goodness.
SpeakerYeah, so.
Speaker 2Oh, wow.
SpeakerBut I, I managed, I survived, and it was, it was a fun ride.
Speaker 2You, you did hear about the time I went on the Tron ride?
SpeakerOh, and passed out?
Speaker 2Yeah. It's a wonder I'm alive.
SpeakerWell, you gotta, you gotta judge these rides. Yeah. Some of them are a little bit exciting.
Speaker 2It, that's more
Speakerexcitement- I haven't been on Tron. Yeah. I haven't been on, what's, the Snow White or the Seven Dwarfs ride?
Speaker 2Yeah. With, yeah. That, that I hear is okay.
SpeakerI haven't been on the Seven Dwarfs. That's a- I haven't been on, in
Epcot Soarin' And Lightning Lane Debate
SpeakerEpcot. Now, we're gonna move to Epcot, because I used to love Epcot. Yeah. And you were there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerAnd how did Epcot hold up for the holiday?
Speaker 2It held up- Mm-hmm but it's just not the same. It's just not the same.
SpeakerMore, more of what?
Speaker 2Well, they added a whole, it took $3 billion to put a garden in, in the center.
SpeakerWell, it, that was because of the timeframe that you went. Didn't they-
Speaker 2No, no, no didn't they have the garden show? This was the last couple of years. Oh. That, I mean, it took them $3 billion to change the decor of the front area.
SpeakerOh, okay.
Speaker 2Okay.
SpeakerSo you still have, you know.
Speaker 2Right. But the, the biggest thing going-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2in Epcot today-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2Soarin'. Soarin' Across America
SpeakerOh, that was a fun ride,
Speaker 2Soarin' Yeah, it's a sim- So
Speakerthey renovated it?
Speaker 2Yeah. It's from, from right now they're celebrating the United States of America.
SpeakerOh, cool.
Speaker 2You know, it's a time journey that honors the heart and spirit of the nation as you soar through the 250th birthday of America.
SpeakerSo it's still a similar ride-
Speaker 2Oh,
Speakeryeah it's just the scenery has changed. Oh,
Speaker 2right. Right.
SpeakerL- and to tell you the truth, that was a really fun ride.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerI mean, it's not a scary ride. No. It's exciting. My mother even loved it.
Speaker 2Oh, my goodness.
SpeakerYeah, and she was in her 80s.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerYou know, so she loved it, and she, you know, she, "Oh, that was fun. She would go on that again."
Speaker 2Yeah. Um- Do you have another hour and a half? Wait.
SpeakerRight. Yeah. But again, Soarin' was always a long wait.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerYeah. So I do not know, and I should find out, how much those Lightning Passes are, because- Too much they are, they are pretty pricey. But then again, you know, if you're there with a whole bunch of people and you don't want to spend two hours on line, or if it's very hot-
Speaker 2But the problem is- it helps they're selling so many of them, you'll end up waiting in the-
SpeakerYou're waiting in the, in the Lightning Line.
Speaker 2Yeah. Okay, so that's a, that's a bunch of BS.
SpeakerSo you went on Soarin' in Epcot.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerAnd now Guardian- Now- the Guardians of the Galaxy-
Speaker 2Yeah
Speakerreplaced Ellen- Now- DeGeneres, right?
Speaker 2Yes. Yes. Okay. Um,
Speakerit- But that's a rollercoaster now
Speaker 2right. It's, they tore the whole building down and built... It's the largest building on Epcot.
SpeakerIs it really?
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerMan, oh, man, do we have to get back there. I'm gonna have to tell- Yeah my husband.
Speaker 2Um, but that's not, I didn't do it. Oh. I, I had to bring up the fact that Junior, a grandson-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2and his father-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2they, they go to Galaxy.
SpeakerThey went on it.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerOkay.
Speaker 2Yeah. And, and the other thing, the biggest stop in, um, Epcot is the DVC rest area. For, for members of the DVC For
Speakermembers of the Disney Vacation
Speaker 2Club. Club. It's above, it's above, um... Where is it? Oh, um, Imagination. You know our Imaginationers? Oh, yes. Yeah.
SpeakerImagination.
Speaker 2Yeah. It's over
Speakerthere.
Speaker 2There's a, there's a lounge up above-
SpeakerOh
Speaker 2for the DVCs. That's for your DVC. I'm sorry if I'm talking about you,
Speakerbut- Oh, yes.
Speaker 2Yeah. And we, you get a Coca-Cola and a bag of chips.
SpeakerWoo. That's included? That's included in your lounging time?
Speaker 2Yes. You
Speakercan- Oh, okay.
Speaker 2You can get a Coca-Cola, and yeah.
SpeakerOkay.
July 4 Fireworks, Heat, And Rain
SpeakerWell, you know, I, I personally did not see many fireworks on the 4th of July.
Speaker 2Really?
SpeakerUm, we really didn't. We went out to celebrate my husband's brand-new kidney.
Speaker 2Oh, yes. It
Speakerwas one whole year.
Speaker 2One year, yeah.
SpeakerAnd we celebrated that, and then we came home and, you know, there was... Everybody was blowing fireworks all around my house.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerSo we really didn't go anywhere t- after that.
Speaker 2You didn't need to.
SpeakerDidn't need to.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerBut you went- Well- and you saw fireworks at Epcot and fireworks at the Magic Kingdom.
Speaker 2Right. Magic Kingdom was the night before the 4th.
SpeakerOkay.
Speaker 2But yet they do the firework spectacular for the 4th as well, on the, the day before. And then at Epcot, they did their normal show, which is Illuminous: A Symphony of Us.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And then they did a Salute to America.
SpeakerThat was cool.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerThat was cool. I wonder if they're gonna keep that going all year now.
Speaker 2Oh, that's a good question.
SpeakerYeah. I don't think so. You're gonna have to go again.
Speaker 2I don't, I, I don't think so, because that was, like, a 4th of July thing. So that was a park thing- Mm-hmm for the 4th.
SpeakerNow, what was the weather like? Do you remember?
Speaker 2Hot.
SpeakerWell.
Speaker 2Hot.
SpeakerWe have been experiencing- Just like the weather forecast some high heat here. Hot. Yes. But did you get rained on?
Speaker 2A little.
SpeakerA little. Just a little. It- And that's something that I like to tell a lot of the listeners, that if you are going to Disney, here we are in Florida. During the summer, you always have an afternoon shower, which is the norm And Disney does not shut down- No when the rain comes. You just don your poncho, which is probably sold in every store there-
Speaker 2Right
Speakerand just keep going.
Speaker 2Well, the secret is stay on Disney property.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And then get to the parks early in the morning.
SpeakerEarly in the day.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm. 2:00, come home, take a nap, get a snack.
SpeakerRight. Let the storm pass.
Speaker 25:00, head back to the park, whichever one you got to, and, and you'll see the magic alive as the lights come on at any park in Disney.
SpeakerSo do you have plans to go to Disney soon again?
Speaker 2Uh,
Riviera Stay, Skyliner, And Park Reservations
Speaker 2September we're heading there.
SpeakerOh, in September.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerAre you gonna be staying at the Disney Vacation Club again?
Speaker 2Well, yeah, we'll be at the, uh, Riviera.
SpeakerNow, I didn't, I did not even know about that-
Speaker 2Yeah
Speakeruntil just recently.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerSo I can't wait to hear the stories. It's a French
Speaker 2provincial.
SpeakerIt's a French provincial.
Speaker 2And the great thing about it is the, um, uh, skyline, what is the, the-
SpeakerRight, those little-
Speaker 2Gondola cars gondola
Speakercars that go
Speaker 2over It can take you either to Epcot or the studio.
SpeakerOh, very cool.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerVery cool, very cool, because
Speaker 2it's probably close. It's the best way, it's the best way to get in and out of a park I've ever seen.
SpeakerI haven't been on the gondola rides.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah.
SpeakerWell, I lie, because they had them in California.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerSo I've been on them in California.
Speaker 2Yeah, but-
SpeakerAnd now we have them here, which are a lot longer.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Yeah. But when you're coming out, you're dr- wa- you're flying over the parking lot as people are trying to get out.
SpeakerThat's really cool.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerThat's really cool. Yeah. And people don't realize that you can jump on and off of those rides even if you don't go to the park.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's- Yeah maybe changing.
SpeakerOh, they're gonna change that now too?
Speaker 2If you don't have a reservation, yeah.
SpeakerRight. Now, you didn't need to make reservations for the park, though.
Speaker 2Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh,
Speakeryou had to make reservations-
Speaker 2Oh, yeah to
Speakerget into the park.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah
SpeakerYeah, so that, they're still doing that
Speaker 2And every time I go up and put my finger on the thing-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2call a manager over.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2Uh, are you Jay?" "Yes, I'm Jay. Yes."
SpeakerRight, they're just making sure you are you, I think.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerBecause that, that came into play during COVID.
Speaker 2Oh, this was long before that.
SpeakerRight. It's-
Speaker 2The finger thing on the scanner well, the finger thing
Speakercame in long before that, but the, the actual appointments, reservations- Oh yeah, that to get into the park. That, yeah. That came in during COVID- Yeah 'cause they had to keep control of the amount of people in the park.
Speaker 2Yeah, bummer.
SpeakerYeah.
Speaker 2So they could make more money.
SpeakerRight. That's what they're doing So now they're really making a lot of-
Speaker 2They're limiting the number of people and making more money. Think of it. And it's all my fault.
SpeakerYou did it. You did it.
Speaker 2Because I took a survey- Right several years ago. Right. And I said, "The park's too crowded. What are you gonna do about it?"
SpeakerOh, see? And- Look what you started
Speaker 2and they did. And it's costing me more.
SpeakerWell,
Allegiant Air Review And Upgrading Seats
SpeakerI, I flew up to New York.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
SpeakerYeah, we took a f- we took a flight. I went on Allegiant. Were your
Speaker 2arms tired?
SpeakerYes, my arms were very tired. Uh, we went on Allegiant. Um, very nice people, very, you know, sociable flight attendants. The pilot was nice. Um, but I do not like their planes.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
SpeakerTheir planes are extremely squashed.
Speaker 2No, you're, you're just saying inside-
SpeakerInside the plane
Speaker 2they just don't leave much room for seats.
SpeakerI'll, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerEven the flight attendants were almost sidestepping down the aisle.
Speaker 2Oh my goodness.
SpeakerYeah. That's how... And every time, 'cause I sit on the aisle.
Speaker 2Yeah. I'm
Speakera little claustrophobic.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerSo I can't sit three in by the window.
Speaker 2Right. Right.
SpeakerSo I sit by the aisle, and I'm okay usually, and I put my feet under, and I put my little purse under, whatever. Um, I couldn't even get my, my bag underneath the seat. Really? It was that small, which meant- Oh my my bag was squashed. I tried to put my feet on top of the bag, and then every time the flight attendant or a person walked past, I had to crunch my shoulders in- Uh-huh so they wouldn't knock into me.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerSo it was a very uncomfortable flight.
Speaker 2Wow.
SpeakerBut, like I said, everybody was polite, the service was okay, and it's quick and easy to get to s- point A to point B.
Speaker 2Do they have s- assigned seats, or do you pay for them?
SpeakerYes. You do have a little upcharge if you want to sit in certain spots. Mm. And I told my daughter when... 'Cause she kidnapped us. Yeah? My daughter came to visit, and she says, "Well," I said, "Well, you wanna drive back?" And she said, "Yeah, let's drive back." And then she decided last minute, "Nah, I don't feel like driving," and she just bought us tickets, and we flew back.
Speaker 2Oh, wow.
SpeakerAnd she said, "Yeah, we're flying back." And I told my daughter, I said, "I'm not getting back on that plane. It was too crowded." So she-
Speaker 2Well, you left her there, didn't you?
SpeakerRight. She stayed in New York. Yeah. I says, "I'm gonna drive back down." And she says, "No, no, I'm gonna move your seats all the way to the front." I mean, I was so close to the pilot I could've tapped him on the shoulder.
Speaker 2Those dang kids, they know how to do things, don't they?
SpeakerBut the seats really didn't change. Yeah. It gave you a little from seat to chest area, but nothing- underneath for your legs, you know? Uh-huh. So, like I said, I went Allegiant. It was inexpensive in comparison to some of the other flights.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm.
SpeakerBut I also told my husband, I said, "This is the last flight we're getting on in economy. We are going to go business class from now on."
Speaker 2Absolutely.
SpeakerI like that.
Speaker 2I'm going first class. Yes, I am.
SpeakerFirst class, I might have to wait a while for that. Yeah. But business class I'll do. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2rob a bank, but, uh,
Speakeryeah. Oh, that, yeah. Have you seen some of the first class flights?
Speaker 2Oh, j- yeah.
SpeakerMm-hmm.
Speaker 2Yeah. Uh-
SpeakerYou got your own bedroom
Speaker 2com- yeah, coming home from, uh, Europe this last summer. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I saw some of those, and I couldn't... I don't even think I wanna fly in first class. It's not that... You- you're- you've- you're like in a cone-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2and you're not really sitting beside anybody. Mm-hmm. And it's, it was really weird. So I, I think that was, yeah.
SpeakerYeah. I, so- It's very strange, and some of the flights, they actually look like bedrooms.
Speaker 2Well, yeah. On Delta, where I like to fly- Mm-hmm I fly, uh, what is it called? It's not first class, it's not third class, it's-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2it's, uh, premium or something. Right,
Speakerright.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerIt's not first, it's not business, it's a, like extra, extra culture
Speaker 2thing. I get an extra six inches is what I get. Right, you
Speakerget an extra six.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerBut the United, the, uh, Emirates Airlines.
Speaker 2Oh, phew.
SpeakerThey, they have like a whole bedroom.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerYou know, several bedrooms which are considered first class.
Speaker 2Okay, I'm gonna fly. Okay. Right. This is hypothetical, you know?
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2C- I'm going overseas. Right. I'm flying. Can you lay down and go to sleep- I mean,
SpeakerI- I can't, but my husband would do it in a second.
Speaker 2Yeah?
SpeakerOh, yeah. He can, he can drop, drop it a- at a hat,
Speaker 2yeah. Yeah. Well, I can sleep in a chair. Right. I can sleep sitting up flying.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2But I don't know about a bed.
SpeakerYeah.
Speaker 2Do I have to change- They have
Speakera bed. It's like a movie theater. Yeah,
Speaker 2you- Do I have to change my clothes? You know.
SpeakerYou can if you want. Some of those flights are a little long.
First Class Dreams And 22-Hour Flights
Speaker 2Well, yeah.
SpeakerAs a matter of fact, there's a new flight coming out which is going to be the longest flight ever. From,
Speaker 2from where?
SpeakerUh, it's gonna be from the United States, and I believe it's going to Australia- Oh, yeah? or Singapore. It's like 22 hours.
Speaker 2Oh, my goodness.
SpeakerYeah, straight.
Speaker 2Nonstop?
SpeakerNonstop.
Speaker 2What plane is doing that?
SpeakerUm, I don't know off the top of my head-
Speaker 2Wow
Speakerbecause it hasn't come out yet. Wow. But the longest right now is 20-hour flight, and I think that goes to Singapore.
Speaker 2Oh, wow.
SpeakerYeah. So it's, they're starting to do longer flights.
Speaker 2Do they have a flight out of Orlando to Australia?
SpeakerNot direct, no.
Speaker 2I thought there was a direct flight. No. Where did I hear that?
SpeakerNo. Not yet. I
Speaker 2believe someone I interviewed-
SpeakerMm-hmm
Speaker 2for Collage Travel Radio.
SpeakerRight. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2At one time, I thought that's what she said. They
Speakerwere working on it.
Speaker 2Oh, really?
SpeakerYeah, but this is not gonna fly out of Orlando.
Speaker 2Oh, okay.
SpeakerNot, not yet anyway.
Speaker 2Wow.
SpeakerNot yet anyway.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerAnd Orlando now has Air France back, so that's, that's nice, and Air France has some really nice planes.
Speaker 2Oh, good.
SpeakerMm-hmm.
Closing Thoughts On Rediscovering America
Speaker 2Good.
SpeakerBut, well, thank you for joining me today. Well- And we can keep rediscovering America are we
Speaker 2rattling on? Yeah.
SpeakerIs
Speaker 2that it? Yeah. You wanna get rid of me? Is that it?
SpeakerWe're rattling on. We're rattling on. But it's gonna be fun rediscovering America. Yeah. You are going to probably go to Colorado, hopefully, this year.
Speaker 2Sometime in the year. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SpeakerYeah, and your wife is going up to Canada. Yeah. She's gonna go to Banff.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerWhich is gonna be nice. Yeah. Has she been there yet?
Speaker 2No, she hasn't been there.
SpeakerOoh, it's pretty. No. It's purty up there. Yeah,
Speaker 2they're going in September, so.
SpeakerIt's gonna be a little chilly.
Speaker 2Yeah. Well, that's, uh, it's the time to go.
SpeakerBut you're not joining her on the Banff-
Speaker 2Oh, no. No, no
Speakershe's going with the girls.
Speaker 2Part of the prenuptial was that she went with the girls.
SpeakerAh, she's going with her girlfriends. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, thank you for joining me today. And of course, like I always say, shoot for the stars, and if you only get to the Moon, at least you made the trip. This is Zee Michaelson. I'll see you on your next adventure Hey, it's C. Michaelson
Restart: Disney And New York Setup
Speakerhere, and you know what? Like I promised, I brought Jay Lawrence back. Both of us have been doing a little bit of traveling in these past few weeks, and I went up to New York, and Jay, you stayed local right here
Speaker 2in Florida. Oh, I traveled all around the world. I went to Disney World. You went to Disney. Yeah.
SpeakerSo where did you stay in Disney?
Speaker 2Well, since we're DVC members, today, or, well, we were there on the 4th of July,
Speakerand we- Okay, so the holiday weekend.
Speaker 2Yeah. Mm-hmm. We stayed at the Saratoga Springs Resort and Spa.
SpeakerOh, okay. I know exactly that, Saratoga Springs.
Speaker 2It's one of the... It's one of the older resorts, older DVC buildings.
SpeakerIt is. It really is.
Speaker 2And it came, it was in the same place where they had the, Disney, University. It wasn't Disney University. It was called Disney Academy or something like that.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And so that didn't go over real big, so they built Saratoga Springs all around it.
SpeakerNow, you went to Saratoga Springs Resort-
Speaker 2Mm-hmm
Speakerand I was up near Saratoga Springs in New York.
Speaker 2Oh, my goodness. How close could we be?
SpeakerRight. So we both spent some
Speaker 2time there thousand miles apart, yeah.
SpeakerOkay. So-
Speaker 2Well, you know, Saratoga Springs was a, horse racing place in- It still is in New York.
SpeakerIt still is.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, and it was built like in the 1800s- Yes in New York.
SpeakerMm-hmm.
Speaker 2But, uh, so they put the Victorian style resort charm at Disney.
SpeakerYes. It
Speaker 2is very pretty. And you know one of the, one of the things I, uh, discovered was that they didn't want to put any palm trees in the resort area. They wanted it to look like the New York area. So there's no palm trees in, uh, Saratoga Springs.
SpeakerThat's pretty odd considering there's probably palm trees all around the outside- Well, of
Speaker 2course
Speakerof this resort. Of
Speaker 2course. But I, I, it just, it just had a different feel to it.
SpeakerNow, a funny story.
Speaker 2Yeah?
SpeakerUh, years ago I used to live up near Saratoga Springs.
Speaker 2No.
SpeakerYes. And the track was one of my clients.
Speaker 2Oh, really?
SpeakerAnd, my cousin and I went to have some lunch there- Uh-huh during racing season, and we were down at the bottom, and we were having a nice lunch, and we just finished lunch, and there were several tiers of the restaurant.
Speaker 2Mm.
SpeakerSo above us was another table and chairs, and the waitress didn't realize when she dumped the water pitcher out, that there were people below.
Speaker 2Oh, no.
SpeakerYes. Yes. My cousin got a little bit drenched with the water that was dumped on her head. Needless to say, that lunch was free that day. Oh,
Speaker 2yeah. Another thing about, uh, Saratoga Springs, if I may mention it- Mm-hmm you can see the golf course. It kinda wanders around it, and so you can see that from, from the village itself or from the resort.
SpeakerOkay. So if you're staying at Saratoga Springs, can you go and play golf?
Speaker 2I think you can.
SpeakerOh, fabulous.
Speaker 2You can go play golf wherever you're at.
SpeakerNow, I know you haven't played golf in a while.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerAnd I know your wife used to play as well. Does she... Did she go play golf?
Speaker 2She threw her golf clubs away when she married
Speakerme. She figured, "Well, you're not gonna go." Yeah. "Mind if I get rid of them?" So now you spent some time up at Disney for the holiday.
Speaker 2Right. I gotta mention, you know, you're gonna ask me about food.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And Saratoga Springs has a great Surf Club Bar and Grill.
SpeakerOkay.
Speaker 2And we had dinner there one night.
SpeakerWhat did you have?
Speaker 2Well, the, uh... I had... What did I have? I had the prime rib. Everybody else had something different.
SpeakerThat's nice.
Speaker 2Yeah. But I had the prime rib, and it was very good. And, the thing about the Turf Club, it reminds you of an old clubhouse for the racetrack. Oh. So, you know, uh-
SpeakerJust like where my cousin got drenched.
Speaker 2Yes. Yeah. Except there was only one floor. Yeah. And also, Saratoga Springs has the Treehouse Villas experience, which is part of Saratoga Springs. It's off to the side.
SpeakerNow, I'm very familiar with the Treehouse Villas, 'cause they will house, uh, a few more people than just two to four.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerYes.
Speaker 2Yes. I, I have a family- They have a quite a few I know that they're bringing their whole family down for that.
SpeakerYes. It is very nice. It's real fun. Yeah. It's fun, particularly for the kids.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerSo now-
Speaker 2So that's my Saratoga Springs story.
SpeakerThat's where you stayed.
Speaker 2And I'm gonna... I'm sticking to it. Yeah.
SpeakerSo you stayed in Saratoga Springs, but you can't go to Saratoga Springs without at least attending a couple of the parks.
Speaker 2Right. Right. Positives about Saratoga Springs-
SpeakerMm-hmm
Speaker 2they have bus service to all the parks.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2One of the negatives about Saratoga Springs bus service, it's the last stop on the road.
SpeakerIt's the last on the journey coming back- Yeah when you're exhausted.
Speaker 2So you can get to the Magic Kingdom real quick. But plan on a half an hour to get home, you know?
SpeakerSo now, you know, like I said, you know, we've been rediscovering America.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerYou've been, you were here rediscovering right here in our backyard.
Upstate New York Local Food Stops
SpeakerI went up to New York, went to visit my daughter, and she lives in the upstate region of New York.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerUm, just kinda relaxed. She took us to some of the local restaurants up there. And I like to do that
Speaker 2I can't see you reading
SpeakerI know.
Speaker 2I, I just can't see you reading.
SpeakerI, I like to go to the local establishments-
Speaker 2Uh-huh
Speakerbecause I like to give business to the local guys.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerShe brought me to a pizza parlor, and I'm saying that with a New York accent, pizza. Pizza parlor, and it was delicious.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
SpeakerOh, yeah. We had to go there twice, and we were only there for a week, and we had to go twice to this restaurant. Oh,
Speaker 2wow. What kind of pizza did you have?
SpeakerUm, we had the two separate types. They did Sicilian, which is the square thick, and then they had the regular round.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerAnd we tried that, but they used lots of fresh ingredients. Oh, yeah? Fresh basil and fresh Parmesan cheese, and it was all so fresh and delicious.
Speaker 2Now, I'm a crust guy. I like a thin crust pizza. What was the pizza?
SpeakerWell, the round pizza is more of a thinner crust.
Speaker 2Yeah, thinner, but not thin.
SpeakerThinner. It's not like Chicago.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah.
SpeakerYeah. Good Chicago has those thick pizzas.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's why, that's why I love Chicago.
SpeakerBut she also brought us for dessert-
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
Speakerto a place that you don't really see anymore, a drive-in theater.
Speaker 2What?
SpeakerA drive-in.
Speaker 2A drive-in theater?
SpeakerYes, there's two- What was the movie? up where she lives. We didn't go see the movie.
Speaker 2What? Why, you went
Speakerto- We were just going there for the ice cream because they make homemade ice cream.
Speaker 2Oh, my.
SpeakerYes.
Speaker 2Was the theater running the movie-
SpeakerRight at the same time? Yeah, the theater was gonna run a movie. You know, we went right before dark.
Speaker 2Oh. Oh,
Speakerokay. So they did have movies gonna be showing there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerBut we had the ice cream there, and it was delicious.
Speaker 2Did they have a big parking lot so you could- Yeah you could park?
SpeakerYeah, they had a parking lot just to get your ice cream. Just for ice cream.
Speaker 2Wow.
SpeakerOr just drive into the theater. Well, do
Speaker 2you remember the name of the place?
SpeakerNo, I don't.
Speaker 2No. Okay. Yeah,
Speakerthere was two of them.
Speaker 2So, and this was in New York?
SpeakerIn New York. New York. Upstate New York.
Speaker 2Oh.
SpeakerUpstate.
Speaker 2Upstate.
SpeakerUpstate.
Speaker 2Upstate New York.
SpeakerNow, I remember going to drive-ins years ago when I was a kid.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerYou don't see many of those anymore.
Speaker 2Well, no. No.
SpeakerAnd
Speaker 2they're fun. The, the- They're fun that could be, I had seen a thing on YouTube about the drive-ins, and that could be, like, one of the only ones left in the country. They have
Speakertwo. They have two?
Speaker 2They have
Speakertwo by them, yes. Oh,
Speaker 2my goodness.
SpeakerYeah. I mean, in the wintertime, naturally it's closing down because- Yeah you know, there's snow on the ground. I remember living in that part of New York, and, you know-
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah
SpeakerI left when there was seven feet of snow in the driveway. I said I had enough of the winter.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerBut she likes the season, so she's back up there. So
Speaker 2when you're in the drive-in, they run the sound through your car. Through
Speakerthe car.
Speaker 2Right? Mm-hmm. Through a Bluetooth thing.
SpeakerBut some of them, she says one of the locations still has the boxes.
Speaker 2Oh, really?
SpeakerHow funny is that?
Speaker 2Oh.
SpeakerAnd again, privately owned.
Speaker 2Oh, cool.
SpeakerAnd this is all in the United States.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerYeah, so now tell me a little bit more about the parks that you went to.
Speaker 2Oh,
Magic Kingdom Favorites And Lost Riverboat
Speaker 2are we back at Disney now? We're
Speakerback at Disney. Okay. We're gonna bounce back and forth- We- 'cause we're traveling the United States we,
Speaker 2we came back to Florida. Well, you know, the place to go right now is the Magic Kingdom.
SpeakerYes.
Speaker 2And, um, and of course our family, my... You know, my wife's Italian.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And if you don't know, you're having breakfast, you gotta know what you're having for dinner at night, you know? Of course. Or breakfast the next day.
SpeakerI'm sure she's taken something out of the freezer already- before you left the house today.
Speaker 2But, we ate at the, Liberty Tree Tavern.
SpeakerOh, I love Liberty Tree Tavern.
Speaker 2Oh, right, which is one of my favorite places.
SpeakerIt's a family-style sit-down.
Speaker 2Yes. Mm-hmm. That's... You took the words right out of my mouth And, you know, th- they have different rooms at the Liberty Tree Tavern.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2The rooms are like the Ben Franklin Room, the Jefferson Room, the John Paul Jones Room, Paul Revere, Betsy Ross, and the George Washington Room. Yeah.
SpeakerAnd good old George.
Speaker 2Yes.
SpeakerMm-hmm.
Speaker 2And you know the fun thing about that, you mentioned it's family style, and oh man, I can, uh, eat like-
SpeakerYeah, they give you like ham and turkey- Oh and potatoes and vegetables. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2like Thanksgiving every day. Yeah. Yeah.
SpeakerYeah. But- And they just keep bringing it over oh, yeah Once you're out of one thing, they just keep bringing it over. Yeah. Now, were the characters in there?
Speaker 2No, not, no. No characters.
SpeakerThey took the characters away.
Speaker 2Just took the, just the, the, the serving staff is dressed in costume.
SpeakerIn costume.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerCause it used to have the characters. Yeah,
Speaker 2yeah.
SpeakerAnd they o- they too were dressed in period costume.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, but, uh, you know, "Hey, get out. We gotta, we gotta get the folks in here."
SpeakerNow, I didn't tell you, but you know George Washington, I went to go see that movie.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
SpeakerYoung Washington.
Speaker 2Yeah?
SpeakerYeah, it was really good. In the theater? I enjoyed it. In the theater.
Speaker 2Oh, really?
SpeakerIn the theater, the theater. What
Speaker 2did you learn?
SpeakerY- I learned that he had a brother. Oh, oh yeah? I didn't know that he had... It was either a half-brother or, you know, stepbrother. He had an older brother-
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
Speakerwho actually owned Mount Vernon.
Speaker 2Oh.
SpeakerHe owned it, so when he passed on, he bequeathed it- He gave it to George to George.
Speaker 2But did, did they show him chopping down the cherry tree?
SpeakerThey showed him chopping trees.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
SpeakerAnd apparently that's what he did to get his frustrations out, 'cause he was, you know- Ah when he got mad, he would take an ax and chop at trees to get his frustrations out.
Speaker 2Well-
SpeakerBut it was very good. I, there's some of the things in there that you know- Yeah and some of the things that you don't know. Well, cool. I enjoyed the movie.
Speaker 2Can
Speakerwe get- And again, rediscovering
Speaker 2America. Can we, can we get back to Disney, the Magic Kingdom, and the Liberty Tree? Well, we're moving out
Speakerof the Liberty Tavern.
Speaker 2Well, you know, you walk outside the Liberty Tavern, and across the square-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2is the Hall of Presidents.
SpeakerAh, see, president
Speaker 2to president. And that's one of my favorite attractions is to attend that. But then if you look to your left when you're going that way, on your way to the
SpeakerI'm looking to my left
Speaker 2yeah, you know, the Haunted Mansion.
SpeakerOkay.
Speaker 2It's just a wall of green. They've taken a lot of the magic out because they've taken the river out, the Rivers of America. Oh, they took the river
Speakerout?
Speaker 2You didn't know that?
SpeakerI haven't been to Disney in two years.
Speaker 2Where have you been?
SpeakerSo that big-
Speaker 2The biggest story
Speakerin- steamship is gone?
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerOh, no.
Speaker 2Absolutely. They're gonna put a Cars ride in there. I mean- Oh oh, I cannot believe it. On
Speakerthat side? It doesn't seem to fit.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's just, uh, th- they're, they're theming it to look like mountains and stuff like that, I guess, but-
SpeakerOh, like- But- like Route 66.
Speaker 2Yeah. We'll have to look, but- Right uh, I was so disappointed because I looked over to my left. I remember the last time, the, uh, over a year ago, I went to Disney to ride the boat one last time, so I made sure I was on that-
SpeakerOh
Speaker 2riverboat going around.
SpeakerYeah, my husband and I were just talking about that the other day, because there are separate passes for us locals.
Speaker 2Right. Right.
SpeakerAnd there's different levels that you can purchase.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerAnd we were talking about that, because we haven't been there in, like, two years.
Speaker 2You... Yeah, yeah. You need to go.
SpeakerYeah, we
Speaker 2do need to. And oh, okay, th- if you walk all the way around where the rivers used to be, Big Thunder Mountain did w- open up again.
SpeakerRight, they renovated
Speaker 2it. They rehabbed it.
SpeakerYeah, they made
Speaker 2it- And, and I didn't get there- bigger and better but I understand the ride is much smoother. So it's a fun ride. I want to get on it the next time I get there.
SpeakerBut the whole idea behind Thunder Mountain was it's supposed to be a rickety, rackety-
Speaker 2Yeah
Speakerexperience because it was, you know-
Speaker 2Going through the mountain.
SpeakerYeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2Well.
SpeakerSo you didn't get on that ride?
Speaker 2I didn't get on it, no.
SpeakerOh, well.
Speaker 2But we did do, uh, Buzz Lightyear.
SpeakerI love Buzz Lightyear. Did that change too?
Speaker 2No.
SpeakerOh.
Speaker 2No. Yeah, that's where you do the
SpeakerRight, you shoot at the little Zs.
Speaker 2Yeah,
Speakeryeah.
Speaker 2Yeah. And tearfully, tearfully-
SpeakerOh, no
Speaker 2we, we went on Carousel of Progress.
SpeakerIt's a great big beautiful tomorrow. Beautiful work. Yeah.
Speaker 2Which is now shut down for rehab.
SpeakerOh, okay. So they're just gonna rehab it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're not, they're not getting rid of it.
Speaker 2Oh, no. They're not getting rid of it. Yeah,
Speakercause wasn't that a, um-
Speaker 2From the World's Fair in- The
SpeakerWorld's Fair
Speaker 2in New York. Yes. Yeah. It, the trouble is they're gonna rehab it back to the 1960s is where it will start.
SpeakerOh, so we're not gonna be as far back-
Speaker 2Right as it started. We're taking our history away. We're missing our history.
SpeakerWell, they, you know, they're trying to add more to the current then.
Speaker 2Well, yeah. Yeah. And the, and they're gonna put an animatronic of Walt in there.
SpeakerOh, that makes sense. Of
Speaker 2Walt- That
Speakerpart makes sense
Speaker 2doing, introducing the show.
SpeakerAnd with today's AI technology, it's probably gonna look like he's really sitting there.
Speaker 2Well, I-
SpeakerWhich is kind of scary. So you went, naturally, of course, you always have to go to the Magic Kingdom.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerBut did you go to any of the other parks?
Speaker 2Well, yeah. We
Hollywood Studios Rides And Smugglers Run
Speaker 2went to Hollywood Studios.
SpeakerOkay.
Speaker 2So- And that's on page one, by the way
Speakerright, I'm looking at, I'm looking at your notes here. Yeah. I see your notes.
Speaker 2And, and the attractions we went on were the alien swirling saucers.
SpeakerWhat is that?
Speaker 2Of... It's a tilt-a-whirl.
SpeakerIt's a tilt-a-whirl.
Speaker 2I'm gonna call it a tilt-a-whirl. And the funny thing is, when you wait in line, Junior, our youngest grandson- Right this is his ride, you know?
SpeakerOh, he likes it.
Speaker 2Yeah, and you have to go on it. Th- you wait in line 30 minutes, whatever.
SpeakerOh, that's not too bad.
Speaker 2It's a two and a half minute attraction.
SpeakerMost of the attractions are about that length.
Speaker 2Two and a half minutes. I timed it. Two and a half minutes, and, and then let's do it again.
SpeakerWell, if it's only a 30-minute wait, you might as well.
Speaker 2Oh, you bet.
SpeakerBut I, I don't even remember seeing it.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah. Yeah.
SpeakerWhere, what part of the park is it in?
Speaker 2It's in Toyland. You know, you haven't been there.
SpeakerNo.
Speaker 2You haven't been in the Toy Story
Speakerarea. In Toy Story-
Speaker 2Mania
SpeakerI can never get in. I've- It's- When we were there and they had the Toy Story, we tried to get on it. Y- the line was like an hour and a half out. We waited. We got all the way through. We were about five minutes from getting on a ride- Yeah,
Speaker 2it shut down
Speakeror an attraction, and it shut down.
Speaker 2Oh, no.
SpeakerSo my husband and I have not gotten in yet.
Speaker 2Okay. The big, the big thing, of course, is, Star Wars.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And the Millennium Falcon, the Smuggler's Run r- attraction is something- How
Speakerwas that?
Speaker 2something else.
SpeakerReally?
Speaker 2The line is something else.
SpeakerI'm sure.
Speaker 2The, the, you know, what do, what do you call it? The, the queue to get in.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2It's got all the stuff, and the, you know.
SpeakerSo the line is ex- exciting as well.
Speaker 2I, yeah, yeah, if you look around, yeah.
SpeakerIf you- Now, did you buy the-
Speaker 2No
SpeakerFastPass?
Speaker 2No
Speakeror Speed-
Speaker 2Lightning Round
SpeakerLightning-
Speaker 2Lightning Lane
SpeakerLightning Lane. No,
Speaker 2no.
SpeakerCause you do have to purchase those now. Years ago, you just had to-
Speaker 2Right
Speakerorganize your day, but now you have to purchase them.
Speaker 2Right. Mm-hmm. Now, in the Millennium Falcon, you actually sit in the cockpit of this rocket ship.
SpeakerOh.
Speaker 2There's six people that sit in
Speakerit. Just like Chewbacca.
Speaker 2Yeah. There, there's, there's a, a pilot, co-pilot, engineer, and the other guy, and I was the guy in the back.
SpeakerYou were the guy in the back.
Speaker 2Yeah. Was- Were you the bombardier? it was still, it was still all interaction. It, it's kind of amazing. I, I was amazed at it.
SpeakerWas it a, was it a long wait for the ride?
Speaker 2Oh, yeah.
SpeakerYeah.
Speaker 2And to get there is something else, too. Right.
SpeakerAnd of course, you went during a holiday weekend.
Speaker 2Well, yeah.
SpeakerAnd so naturally, the park was probably a little bit more crowded than usual.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerOkay. So you had all that experience. Now, did you eat at all at, in the parks?
Speaker 2Well, yes. Uh, of course we ate in the park. We ate at the Roundup Rodeo. R- what's his name? Rodeo Roundup, you know.
SpeakerRodeo Roundup?
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerMm-hmm.
Speaker 2And, um, Woody's. Woody's. Woody's Roundup.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And that's family style. We ha- we had lunch there. Right. But it's always great. You know, when they serve family style, y- you never go hungry, and that's in Hollywood Studios.
SpeakerOh, that was in the studios,
Speaker 2okay. But, but of course, okay, here we were, we were in Toyland, we were in, uh, the, Star Wars. Right. We were in the restaurant- Right which was back in the Toy Story area. But my favorite- Right of, of the Hollywood Studios is the, the Brown Derby.
SpeakerIt's still there.
Speaker 2It's still there. They haven't
Speakertaken
Speaker 2that
Speakeraway yet. I've been, I've been to the Brown Derby there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerWell, then again, I was at the Brown Derby out in California.
Speaker 2And of course, they've got the fabulous Cobb salad and great fruit cake, and, uh, boy, are they good.
SpeakerDid you enjoy that?
Speaker 2They were good. That was good. And, and you know, it brings back the Golden Age of Hollywood, like-
SpeakerIt really does
Speaker 2like, yeah.
SpeakerYeah, it really does. It's a nice setup, and, you know, the restaurant is nice.
Speaker 2And I think-
SpeakerNice
Speaker 2atmosphere two, two of the things I like at the Hollywood Studios is just absolutely walking in the park-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2and looking at what old Hollywood used to look like. Ah. Allegedly. You know, allegedly.
SpeakerAllegedly.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerNow, I know they took away one of the rides that I thought was hysterical, and that was the, uh, Rock 'n' Roller Coaster.
Speaker 2Well, yeah.
SpeakerThey've changed it, I don't know to what.
Speaker 2Well, they put the Muppets in there.
SpeakerOh, the Muppets are in there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerOkay, so it's still a rollercoaster- Yeah type of ride.
Speaker 2It's still the... It's actually the same ride, they just changed the decoration around it.
SpeakerI remember going the first time on there, because I was one of those that I did not like to go upside down, whatever.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerSo I asked my daughter's friend's mother- Uh-huh 'cause she was there, and I said to her, "Does it go upside down?" She goes, "Gee, I don't remember." Well, it does go upside down. Oh,
Speaker 2really? Okay, thank you, 'cause I haven't done it either. I'm, uh- It,
Speakerand, but the things with the Rock 'n' Roller Coaster is you really didn't notice you were going upside down, because when you went upside down, the signs were upside down as well. Oh, no. So, you know, you felt like you were still going in the same direction. Oh,
Speaker 2my goodness.
SpeakerYeah, so.
Speaker 2Oh, wow.
SpeakerBut I, I managed, I survived, and it was, it was a fun ride.
Speaker 2You, you did hear about the time I went on the Tron ride?
SpeakerOh, and passed out?
Speaker 2Yeah. It's a wonder I'm alive.
SpeakerWell, you gotta, you gotta judge these rides. Yeah. Some of them are a little bit exciting.
Speaker 2It, that's more
Speakerexcitement- I haven't been on Tron. Yeah. I haven't been on, what's, the Snow White or the Seven Dwarfs ride?
Speaker 2Yeah. With, yeah. That, that I hear is okay.
SpeakerI haven't been on the Seven Dwarfs. That's a- I haven't been on, in Epcot. Now, we're
Epcot Updates And Lightning Lane Costs
Speakergonna move to Epcot, because I used to love Epcot. Yeah. And you were there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerAnd how did Epcot hold up for the holiday?
Speaker 2It held up- Mm-hmm but it's just not the same. It's just not the same.
SpeakerMore, more of what?
Speaker 2Well, they added a whole, it took $3 billion to put a garden in, in the center.
SpeakerWell, it, that was because of the timeframe that you went. Didn't they-
Speaker 2No, no, no didn't they have the garden show? This was the last couple of years. Oh. That, I mean, it took them $3 billion to change the decor of the front area.
SpeakerOh, okay.
Speaker 2Okay.
SpeakerSo you still have, you know.
Speaker 2Right. But the, the biggest thing going-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2in Epcot today-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2Soarin'. Soarin' Across America
SpeakerOh, that was a fun ride,
Speaker 2Soarin' Yeah, it's a sim- So
Speakerthey renovated it?
Speaker 2Yeah. It's from, from right now they're celebrating the United States of America.
SpeakerOh, cool.
Speaker 2You know, it's a time journey that honors the heart and spirit of the nation as you soar through the 250th birthday of America.
SpeakerSo it's still a similar ride-
Speaker 2Oh,
Speakeryeah it's just the scenery has changed. Oh,
Speaker 2right. Right.
SpeakerL- and to tell you the truth, that was a really fun ride.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerI mean, it's not a scary ride. No. It's exciting. My mother even loved it.
Speaker 2Oh, my goodness.
SpeakerYeah, and she was in her 80s.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerYou know, so she loved it, and she, you know, she, "Oh, that was fun. She would go on that again."
Speaker 2Yeah. Um- Do you have another hour and a half? Wait.
SpeakerRight. Yeah. But again, Soarin' was always a long wait.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerYeah. So I do not know, and I should find out, how much those Lightning Passes are, because- Too much they are, they are pretty pricey. But then again, you know, if you're there with a whole bunch of people and you don't want to spend two hours on line, or if it's very hot-
Speaker 2But the problem is- it helps they're selling so many of them, you'll end up waiting in the-
SpeakerYou're waiting in the, in the Lightning Line.
Speaker 2Yeah. Okay, so that's a, that's a bunch of BS.
SpeakerSo you went on Soarin' in Epcot.
Speaker 2Right.
SpeakerAnd now Guardian- Now- the Guardians of the Galaxy-
Speaker 2Yeah
Speakerreplaced Ellen- Now- DeGeneres, right?
Speaker 2Yes. Yes. Okay. Um,
Speakerit- But that's a rollercoaster now
Speaker 2right. It's, they tore the whole building down and built... It's the largest building on Epcot.
SpeakerIs it really?
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerMan, oh, man, do we have to get back there. I'm gonna have to tell- Yeah my husband.
Speaker 2Um, but that's not, I didn't do it. Oh. I, I had to bring up the fact that Junior, a grandson-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2and his father-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2they, they go to Galaxy.
SpeakerThey went on it.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerOkay.
Speaker 2And, and the other thing, the biggest stop in, um, Epcot is the DVC rest area. For, for members of the DVC For
Speakermembers of the Disney Vacation
Speaker 2Club. Club. It's above, it's above, um... Where is it? Oh, um, Imagination. You know our Imaginationers? Oh, yes. Yeah.
SpeakerImagination.
Speaker 2Yeah. It's over
Speakerthere.
Speaker 2There's a, there's a lounge up above-
SpeakerOh
Speaker 2for the DVCs. That's for your DVC. I'm sorry if I'm talking about you,
Speakerbut- Oh, yes.
Speaker 2Yeah. And we, you get a Coca-Cola and a bag of chips.
SpeakerWoo. That's included? That's included in your lounging time?
Speaker 2Yes. You
Speakercan- Oh, okay.
Speaker 2You can get a Coca-Cola, and yeah.
SpeakerOkay. Well, you know, I, I personally did not see many fireworks on the 4th of July.
Speaker 2Really?
SpeakerUm, we really didn't. We went out to celebrate my husband's brand-new kidney.
Speaker 2Oh, yes. It
Speakerwas one whole year.
Speaker 2One year, yeah.
SpeakerAnd we celebrated that, and then we came home and, you know, there was... Everybody was blowing fireworks all around my house.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerSo we really didn't go anywhere t- after that.
Speaker 2You didn't need to.
SpeakerDidn't need to.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerBut you went- Well- and you saw fireworks at Epcot and fireworks at the Magic Kingdom.
Speaker 2Right. Magic Kingdom was the night before the 4th.
SpeakerOkay.
Speaker 2But yet they do the firework spectacular for the 4th as well, on the, the day before. And then at Epcot, they did their normal show, which is Illuminous: A Symphony of Us.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And then they did a Salute to America.
SpeakerThat was cool.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerThat was cool. I wonder if they're gonna keep that going all year now.
Speaker 2Oh, that's a good question.
SpeakerYeah. I don't think so. You're gonna have to go again.
Speaker 2I don't, I, I don't think so, because that was, like, a 4th of July thing. So that was a park thing- Mm-hmm for the 4th.
SpeakerNow,
Beating Heat With Midday Breaks
Speakerwhat was the weather like? Do you remember?
Speaker 2Hot.
SpeakerWell.
Speaker 2Hot.
SpeakerWe have been experiencing- Just like the weather forecast some high heat here. Hot. Yes. But did you get rained on?
Speaker 2A little.
SpeakerA little. Just a little. It- And that's something that I like to tell a lot of the listeners, that if you are going to Disney, here we are in Florida. During the summer, you always have an afternoon shower, which is the norm And Disney does not shut down- No when the rain comes. You just don your poncho, which is probably sold in every store there-
Speaker 2Right
Speakerand just keep going.
Speaker 2Well, the secret is stay on Disney property.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2And then get to the parks early in the morning.
SpeakerEarly in the day.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm. 2:00, come home, take a nap, get a snack.
SpeakerRight. Let the storm pass.
Speaker 25:00, head back to the park, whichever one you got to, and, and you'll see the magic alive as the lights come on at any park in Disney.
SpeakerSo do you have plans to go to Disney soon again?
Speaker 2Uh, September we're heading there.
SpeakerOh, in September.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerAre you gonna be staying at the Disney Vacation Club again?
Speaker 2Well, yeah, we'll be at the, Riviera.
SpeakerNow, I didn't, I did not even know about that-
Speaker 2Yeah
Speakeruntil just recently.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerSo I can't wait to hear the stories. It's a French
Speaker 2provincial.
SpeakerIt's a French provincial.
Speaker 2And the great thing about it is the,, skyline, what is the, the-
SpeakerRight, those little-
Speaker 2Gondola cars gondola
Speakercars that go
Speaker 2over It can take you either to Epcot or the studio.
SpeakerOh, very cool.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerVery cool, very cool, because
Speaker 2it's probably close. It's the best way, it's the best way to get in and out of a park I've ever seen.
SpeakerI haven't been on the gondola rides.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah.
SpeakerWell, I lie, because they had them in California.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerSo I've been on them in California.
Speaker 2Yeah, but-
SpeakerAnd now we have them here, which are a lot longer.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Yeah. But when you're coming out, you're dr- wa- you're flying over the parking lot as people are trying to get out.
SpeakerThat's really cool.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerThat's really cool. Yeah. And people don't realize that you can jump on and off of those rides even if you don't go to the park.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's- Yeah maybe changing.
SpeakerOh, they're gonna change that now too?
Speaker 2If you don't have a reservation, yeah.
SpeakerRight. Now, you didn't need to make reservations for the park, though.
Speaker 2Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh,
Speakeryou had to make reservations-
Speaker 2Oh, yeah to
Speakerget into the park.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah
SpeakerYeah, so that, they're still doing that
Speaker 2And every time I go up and put my finger on the thing-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2call a manager over.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2Uh, are you Jay?" "Yes, I'm Jay. Yes."
SpeakerRight, they're just making sure you are you, I think.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerBecause that, that came into play during COVID.
Speaker 2Oh, this was long before that.
SpeakerRight. It's-
Speaker 2The finger thing on the scanner well, the finger thing
Speakercame in long before that, but the, the actual appointments, reservations- Oh yeah, that to get into the park. That, yeah. That came in during COVID- Yeah 'cause they had to keep control of the amount of people in the park.
Speaker 2Yeah, bummer.
SpeakerYeah.
Speaker 2So they could make more money.
SpeakerRight. That's what they're doing So now they're really making a lot of-
Speaker 2They're limiting the number of people and making more money. Think of it. And it's all my fault.
SpeakerYou did it. You did it.
Speaker 2Because I took a survey- Right several years ago. Right. And I said, "The park's too crowded. What are you gonna do about it?"
SpeakerOh, see? And- Look what you started
Speaker 2and they did. And it's costing me more.
SpeakerWell, I, I flew up to New York.
Cramped Economy Seats And Cabin Upgrades
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
SpeakerYeah, we took a f- we took a flight. I went on Allegiant. Were your
Speaker 2arms tired?
SpeakerYes, my arms were very tired. Uh, we went on Allegiant. Um, very nice people, very, you know, sociable flight attendants. The pilot was nice. Um, but I do not like their planes.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah?
SpeakerTheir planes are extremely squashed.
Speaker 2No, you're, you're just saying inside-
SpeakerInside the plane
Speaker 2they just don't leave much room for seats.
SpeakerI'll, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerEven the flight attendants were almost sidestepping down the aisle.
Speaker 2Oh my goodness.
SpeakerYeah. That's how... And every time, 'cause I sit on the aisle.
Speaker 2Yeah. I'm
Speakera little claustrophobic.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerSo I can't sit three in by the window.
Speaker 2Right. Right.
SpeakerSo I sit by the aisle, and I'm okay usually, and I put my feet under, and I put my little purse under, whatever. Um, I couldn't even get my, my bag underneath the seat. Really? It was that small, which meant- Oh my my bag was squashed. I tried to put my feet on top of the bag, and then every time the flight attendant or a person walked past, I had to crunch my shoulders in- Uh-huh so they wouldn't knock into me.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
SpeakerSo it was a very uncomfortable flight.
Speaker 2Wow.
SpeakerBut, like I said, everybody was polite, the service was okay, and it's quick and easy to get to s- point A to point B.
Speaker 2Do they have s- assigned seats, or do you pay for them?
SpeakerYes. You do have a little upcharge if you want to sit in certain spots. Mm. And I told my daughter when... 'Cause she kidnapped us. Yeah? My daughter came to visit, and she says, "Well," I said, "Well, you wanna drive back?" And she said, "Yeah, let's drive back." And then she decided last minute, "Nah, I don't feel like driving," and she just bought us tickets, and we flew back.
Speaker 2Oh, wow.
SpeakerAnd she said, "Yeah, we're flying back." And I told my daughter, I said, "I'm not getting back on that plane. It was too crowded." So she-
Speaker 2Well, you left her there, didn't you?
SpeakerRight. She stayed in New York. Yeah. I says, "I'm gonna drive back down." And she says, "No, no, I'm gonna move your seats all the way to the front." I mean, I was so close to the pilot I could've tapped him on the shoulder.
Speaker 2Those dang kids, they know how to do things, don't they?
SpeakerBut the seats really didn't change. Yeah. It gave you a little from seat to chest area, but nothing- underneath for your legs, you know? Uh-huh. So, like I said, I went Allegiant. It was inexpensive in comparison to some of the other flights.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm.
SpeakerBut I also told my husband, I said, "This is the last flight we're getting on in economy. We are going to go business class from now on."
Speaker 2Absolutely.
SpeakerI like that.
Speaker 2I'm going first class. Yes, I am.
SpeakerFirst class, I might have to wait a while for that. Yeah. But business class I'll do. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2rob a bank, but, uh,
Speakeryeah. Oh, that, yeah. Have you seen some of the first class flights?
Speaker 2Oh, j- yeah.
SpeakerMm-hmm.
Speaker 2Yeah. Uh-
SpeakerYou got your own bedroom
Speaker 2com- yeah, coming home from, uh, Europe this last summer. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I saw some of those, and I couldn't... I don't even think I wanna fly in first class. It's not that... You- you're- you've- you're like in a cone-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2and you're not really sitting beside anybody. Mm-hmm. And it's, it was really weird. So I, I think that was, yeah.
SpeakerYeah. I, so- It's very strange, and some of the flights, they actually look like bedrooms.
Speaker 2Well, yeah. On Delta, where I like to fly- Mm-hmm I fly, uh, what is it called? It's not first class, it's not third class, it's-
SpeakerRight
Speaker 2it's, uh, premium or something. Right,
Speakerright.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerIt's not first, it's not business, it's a, like extra, extra culture
Speaker 2thing. I get an extra six inches is what I get. Right, you
Speakerget an extra six.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerBut the United, the, uh, Emirates Airlines.
Speaker 2Oh, phew.
SpeakerThey, they have like a whole bedroom.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerYou know, several bedrooms which are considered first class.
Speaker 2Okay, I'm gonna fly. Okay. Right. This is hypothetical, you know?
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2C- I'm going overseas. Right. I'm flying. Can you lay down and go to sleep- I mean,
SpeakerI- I can't, but my husband would do it in a second.
Speaker 2Yeah?
SpeakerOh, yeah. He can, he can drop, drop it a- at a hat,
Speaker 2yeah. Yeah. Well, I can sleep in a chair. Right. I can sleep sitting up flying.
SpeakerRight.
Speaker 2But I don't know about a bed.
SpeakerYeah.
Speaker 2Do I have to change- They have
Speakera bed. It's like a movie theater. Yeah,
Speaker 2you- Do I have to change my clothes? You know.
SpeakerYou can if you want. Some of those flights are a little long.
Speaker 2Well, yeah.
SpeakerAs a matter of fact, there's a new flight coming out which is going to be the longest flight ever. From,
Speaker 2from where?
SpeakerUh, it's gonna be from the United States, and I believe it's going to Australia- Oh, yeah? or Singapore. It's like 22 hours.
Speaker 2Oh, my goodness.
SpeakerYeah, straight.
Speaker 2Nonstop?
SpeakerNonstop.
Speaker 2What plane is doing that?
SpeakerUm, I don't know off the top of my head-
Speaker 2Wow
Speakerbecause it hasn't come out yet. Wow. But the longest right now is 20-hour flight, and I think that goes to Singapore.
Speaker 2Oh, wow.
SpeakerYeah. So it's, they're starting to do longer flights.
Speaker 2Do they have a flight out of Orlando to Australia?
SpeakerNot direct, no.
Speaker 2I thought there was a direct flight. No. Where did I hear that?
SpeakerNo. Not yet. I
Speaker 2believe someone I interviewed-
SpeakerMm-hmm
Speaker 2for Collage Travel Radio.
SpeakerRight. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2At one time, I thought that's what she said. They
Speakerwere working on it.
Speaker 2Oh, really?
SpeakerYeah, but this is not gonna fly out of Orlando.
Speaker 2Oh, okay.
SpeakerNot, not yet anyway.
Speaker 2Wow.
SpeakerNot yet anyway.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerAnd Orlando now has Air France back, so that's, that's nice, and Air France has some really nice planes.
Speaker 2Oh, good.
SpeakerMm-hmm.
Speaker 2Good.
SpeakerBut, well, thank you for joining me today.
Farewell And Upcoming Colorado, Banff Plans
SpeakerWell- And we can keep rediscovering America are we
Speaker 2rattling on? Yeah.
SpeakerIs
Speaker 2that it? Yeah. You wanna get rid of me? Is that it?
SpeakerWe're rattling on. We're rattling on. But it's gonna be fun rediscovering America. Yeah. You are going to probably go to Colorado, hopefully, this year.
Speaker 2Sometime in the year. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SpeakerYeah, and your wife is going up to Canada. Yeah. She's gonna go to Banff.
Speaker 2Yeah.
SpeakerWhich is gonna be nice. Yeah. Has she been there yet?
Speaker 2No, she hasn't been there.
SpeakerOoh, it's pretty. No. It's purty up there. Yeah,
Speaker 2they're going in September, so.
SpeakerIt's gonna be a little chilly.
Speaker 2Yeah. Well, that's, uh, it's the time to go.
SpeakerBut you're not joining her on the Banff-
Speaker 2Oh, no. No, no
Speakershe's going with the girls.
Speaker 2Part of the prenuptial was that she went with the girls.
SpeakerAh, she's going with her girlfriends. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, thank you for joining me today. And of course, like I always say, shoot for the stars, and if you only get to the Moon, at least you made the trip. This is Zee Michaelson. I'll see you on your next adventure