Zee Michaelson Travel

ReDiscovering America Disney with Jay

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Welcome And Travel Catch-Up

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Welcome to the See Michaelson Travel Podcast, a ZMAX Radio production presented by Collage Travel Media Network. This is your space for inspiration, confidence in travel, and a little bit of luxury and adventure. So whether you're traveling across the world, rediscovering America, or simply dreaming about your next escape, we hope we can help guide you. Now, here's See.

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Hey,

Saratoga Springs Resort Overview

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it's C. Michaelson here, and you know what? Like I promised, I brought Jay Lawrence back. Both of us have been doing a little bit of traveling in these past few weeks, and I went up to New York, and Jay, you stayed local right here

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in Florida. Oh, I traveled all around the world. I went to Disney World. You went to Disney. Yeah.

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So where did you stay in Disney?

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Well, since we're DVC members, today, or, well, we were there on the 4th of July,

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and we- Okay, so the holiday weekend.

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Yeah. Mm-hmm. We stayed at the Saratoga Springs Resort and Spa.

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Oh, okay. I know exactly that, that, in Saratoga Springs.

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It's one of the... It's one of the older resorts, older DVC buildings.

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It is. It really is.

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And it came, it was in the sa- same place where they had the, um, Disney, uh, University. It wasn't Disney University. It was called Disney Academy or something like that.

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Right.

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And so that didn't go over real big, so they built Saratoga Springs all around it.

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Now, you went to Saratoga Springs Resort-

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Mm-hmm

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and I was up near Saratoga Springs in New York.

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Oh, my goodness. How close could we be?

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Right. A couple- So we both spent some

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time there thousand miles apart, yeah.

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Okay. So-

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Well, you know, Saratoga Springs was a, a, a horse racing place in- It still is in New York.

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It still is.

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Oh, yeah, and it was built like in the 1800s- Yes in New York.

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Mm-hmm.

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But, uh, so they put the Victorian style resort charm at Disney.

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Yes. It

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is very pretty. And you know one of the, one of the things I, uh, discovered was that they didn't want to put any palm trees in the resort area. They wanted it to look like the new, the newly, the New York area. So there's no palm trees in, uh, Saratoga Springs.

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That's pretty odd considering there's probably palm trees all around the outside- Well, of

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course

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of this resort. Of

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course. But I, I, it just, it just had a different feel to it.

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Now, a funny story.

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Yeah?

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Uh, years ago I used to live up near Saratoga Springs.

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No.

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Yes. And the track was one of my clients.

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Oh, really?

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And, uh, my cousin and I went to have some lunch there- Uh-huh during racing season, and we were down at the bottom, and we were having a nice lunch, and we just finished lunch, and there were several tiers of the restaurant.

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Mm.

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So above us was another table and chairs, and the waitress didn't realize when she dumped the water pitcher out, that there were people below.

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Oh, no.

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Yes. Yes. My cousin got a little bit drenched with the water that was dumped on her head. Needless to say, that lunch was free that day. Oh,

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yeah. Another thing about, uh, Saratoga Springs, if I may mention it- Mm-hmm you can see the golf course. It kinda wanders around it, and so you can see that from, from the village itself or from the resort.

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Okay. So if you're staying at Saratoga Springs, can you go and play golf?

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I think you can.

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Oh, fabulous.

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You can go play golf wherever you're at.

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Now, I know you haven't played golf in a while.

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Right.

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And I know your wife used to play as well. Does she... Did she go play golf?

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She threw her golf clubs away when she married

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me. She figured, "Well, you're not gonna go." Yeah. "Mind if I get rid of them?" So now you spent some time up at Disney for the holiday.

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Right.

Turf Club Dining And Treehouse Villas

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I gotta mention, you know, you're gonna ask me about food.

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Right.

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And Saratoga Springs has a great Surf Club Bar and Grill.

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Okay.

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And we had dinner there one night.

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What did you have?

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Well, the, uh... I had... What did I have? I had the prime rib. Everybody else had something different.

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That's nice.

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Yeah. But I had the prime rib, and it was very good. And, and the thing about the, the Turf Club, it reminds you of an old clubhouse for the racetrack. Oh. So, you know, uh-

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Just like where my cousin got drenched.

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Yes. Yeah. Except there was only one, one floor. Yeah. And also, the, the, um, Saratoga Springs is, has the Treehouse Villas experience, which is part of Saratoga Springs. It's off to the side.

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Now, I'm very familiar with the Treehouse Villas, 'cause they will house, uh, a few more people than just two to four.

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Right.

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Yes.

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Yes. I, I have a family- They have a quite a few I know that they're bringing their whole family down for that.

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Yes. It is very nice. It's real fun. Yeah. It's fun, particularly for the kids.

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Right.

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So now-

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So that's my Saratoga Springs story.

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That's where you stayed.

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And I'm gonna... I'm sticking to it. Yeah.

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So you stayed in Saratoga Springs, but you can't go to Saratoga Springs without at least attending a couple of the parks.

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Right. Right. So- Positives about Saratoga Springs-

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Mm-hmm

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they have bus service to all the parks.

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Right.

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One of the negatives about Saratoga Springs bus service, it's the last stop on the road.

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It's the last on the journey coming back- Yeah when you're exhausted.

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So you can get to the Magic Kingdom real quick. But plan on a half an hour to get home, you know?

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So now,

Upstate New York Pizza And Ice Cream

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you know, like I said, you know, we've been rediscovering America.

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Uh-huh.

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You've been, you were here rediscovering right here in our backyard. I went up to New York, um, went to visit my daughter, and she lives in the upstate region of New York.

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Uh-huh.

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Um, just kinda relaxed. She took us to some of the local restaurants up there. And I like to do that

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I can't see you reading

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I know.

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I, I just can't see you reading.

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I, I like to go to the local establishments-

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Uh-huh

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because I like to give business to the local guys.

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Right.

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She brought me to a pizza parlor, and I'm saying that with a New York accent, pizza. Pizza parlor, and it was delicious.

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Oh, yeah?

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Oh, yeah. We had to go there twice, and we were only there for a week, and we had to go twice to this restaurant. Oh,

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wow. What kind of pizza did you have?

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Um, we had the two separate types. They did Sicilian, which is the square thick, and then they had the regular round.

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Uh-huh.

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And we tried that, but they used lots of fresh ingredients. Oh, yeah? Fresh basil and fresh Parmesan cheese, and it was all so fresh and delicious.

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Now, I'm a crust guy. I like a thin crust pizza. What was the pizza?

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Well, the round pizza is more of a thinner crust.

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Yeah, thinner, but not thin.

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Thinner. It's not like Chicago.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. Good Chicago has those thick pizzas.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's why, that's why I love Chicago.

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But she also brought us for dessert-

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Oh, yeah?

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to a place that you don't really see anymore, a drive-in theater.

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What?

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A drive-in.

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A drive-in theater?

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Yes, there's two- What was the movie? up where she lives. We didn't go see the movie.

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What? Why, you went

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to- We were just going there for the ice cream because they make homemade ice cream.

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Oh, my.

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Yes.

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Was the theater r- running the movie-

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Right at the same time? Yeah, the theater was gonna run a movie. You know, we went right before dark.

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Oh. Oh,

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okay. So they did have movies gonna be showing there.

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Yeah.

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But we had the ice cream there, and it was delicious.

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Did they have a big parking lot so you could- Yeah you could park?

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Yeah, they had a parking lot just to get your ice cream. Just for ice cream.

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Wow.

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Or just drive into the theater. Well, do

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you remember the name of the place?

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No, I don't.

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No. Okay. Yeah,

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there was two of them.

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So, and this was in New York?

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In New York. New York. Upstate New York.

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Oh.

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Upstate.

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Upstate.

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Upstate.

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Upstate New York.

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Now, I remember going to drive-ins years ago when I was a kid.

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Yeah.

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You don't see many of those anymore.

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Well, no. No.

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And

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they're fun. The, the- They're fun that could be, I had seen a thing on YouTube about the drive-ins, and that could be, like, one of the only ones left in the country. They have

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two. They have two?

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They have

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two by them, yes. Oh,

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my goodness.

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Yeah. I mean, in the wintertime, naturally it's closing down because- Yeah you know, there's snow on the ground. I remember living in that part of New York, and, you know-

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Yeah, yeah

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I left when there was seven feet of snow in the driveway. I said I had enough of the winter.

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Yeah.

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But she likes the season, so she's back up there. So

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when you're in the drive-in, th- they, they run the sound through your car. Through

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the car.

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Right? Mm-hmm. Through a Bluetooth thing.

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But some of them, she says one of the locations still has the boxes.

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Oh, really?

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How funny is that?

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Oh.

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And again, privately owned.

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Oh, cool.

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And this is all in the United States.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so now tell me a little bit more about the parks that you went to.

Magic Kingdom Meals And Park Changes

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Oh, are we back at Disney now? We're

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back at Disney. Okay. We're gonna bounce back and forth- We- 'cause we're traveling the United States we,

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we came back to Florida. Well, you know, the place to go right now is the Magic Kingdom.

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Yes.

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And, um, and of course our family, my... You know, my wife's Italian.

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Right.

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And if you don't know, you're having breakfast, you gotta know what you're having for dinner at night, you know? Of course. Or breakfast the next day.

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I'm sure she's taken something out of the freezer already- before you left the house today.

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But, uh, we ate at the, uh, Liberty Tree Tavern.

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Oh, I love Liberty Tree Tavern.

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Oh, right, which is one of my favorite places.

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It's a family-style sit-down.

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Yes. Mm-hmm. That's... You took the words right out of my wi- my, my mouth And, you know, th- they have different rooms at the f-, uh, Liberty Tree Tavern.

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Right.

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The rooms are like the Ben Franklin Room, the Jefferson Room, the John Paul Jones Room, Paul Revere, Betsy Ross, and the George Washington Room. Yeah.

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And good old George.

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Yes.

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Mm-hmm.

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And you know the fun thing about that, you mentioned it's family style, and oh man, I can, uh, eat like-

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Yeah, they give you like ham and turkey- Oh and potatoes and vegetables. Yeah, it's

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like Thanksgiving every day. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. But- And they just keep bringing it over oh, yeah Once you're out of one thing, they just keep bringing it over. Yeah. Now, were the characters in there?

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No, not, no. No characters.

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They took the characters away.

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Just took the, just the, the, the serving staff is dressed in costume.

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In costume.

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Yeah.

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Cause it used to have the characters. Yeah,

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yeah.

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And they o- they too were dressed in period costume.

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Well, yeah, but, uh, you know, "Hey, get out. We gotta, we gotta get the folks in here."

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Now, I didn't tell you, but you know George Washington, I went to go see that movie.

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Oh, yeah?

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Young, Young, Young Washington.

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Yeah?

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Yeah, it was really good. In the theater? I enjoyed it. In the theater.

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Oh, really?

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In the theater, the theater. What

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did you learn?

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Y- I learned that he had a brother. Oh, oh yeah? I didn't know that he had... It was either a half-brother or, you know, stepbrother. He had an older brother-

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Oh, yeah?

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who actually owned Mount Vernon.

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Oh.

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He owned it, so when he passed on, he bequeathed it- He gave it to George to George.

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But did, did they show him chopping down the cherry tree?

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They showed him chopping trees.

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Oh, yeah?

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And apparently that's what he did to get his frustrations out, 'cause he was, you know- Ah when he got mad, he would take an ax and chop at trees to get his frustrations out.

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Well-

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But it was very good. I, there's some of the things in there that you know- Yeah and some of the things that you don't know. Well, cool. I enjoyed the movie.

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Can

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we get- And again, rediscovering

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America. Can we, can we get back to Disney, the Magic Kingdom, and the Liberty Tree? Well, we're moving out

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of the Liberty Tavern.

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Well, you know, you walk outside the Liberty Tavern, and across the square-

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Right

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is the Hall of Presidents.

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Ah, see, president

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to president. And that's one of my favorite attractions is to attend that. But then if you look to your left when you're going that way, on your way to the Ha- um, Ma- uh, uh-

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I'm looking to my left

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yeah, you know, the Haunted Mansion.

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Okay.

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It's just a wall of green. They've taken a lot of the magic out because they've taken the river out, the Rivers of America. Oh, they took the river

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out?

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You didn't know that?

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I haven't been to Disney in two years.

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Where have you been?

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So that big-

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The biggest story

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in- steamship is gone?

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Yeah.

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Oh, no.

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Absolutely. They're gonna put a Cars ride in there. I mean- Oh oh, I cannot believe it. On

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that side? It doesn't seem to fit.

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Yeah, it's just, uh, th- they're, they're theming it to look like mountains and stuff like that, I guess, but-

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Oh, like- But- like Route 66.

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Yeah. We'll have to look, but- Right uh, I, I, I was so disappointed because I looked over to my left. I remember the last time, the, uh, over a year ago, I went to Disney to ride the boat one last time, so I made sure I was on that-

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Oh

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riverboat going around.

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Yeah, my husband and I were just talking about that the other day, because there are separate passes for us locals.

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Right. Right.

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And there's different levels that you can purchase.

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Right.

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And we were talking about that, because we haven't been there in, like, two years.

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You... Yeah, yeah. You need to go.

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Yeah, we

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do need to. And oh, okay, th- if you walk all the way around where the rivers used to be, Big Thunder Mountain did w- open up again.

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Right, they renovated

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it. They rehabbed it.

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Yeah, they made

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it- And, and I didn't get there- bigger and better but I understand the ride is much smoother. So it's a fun ride. I want to get on it the next time I get there.

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But the whole idea behind Thunder Mountain was it's supposed to be a rickety, rackety-

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Yeah

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experience because it was, you know-

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Going through the mountain.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Well.

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So you didn't get on that ride?

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I didn't get on it, no.

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Oh, well.

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But we did do, uh, Buzz Lightyear.

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I love Buzz Lightyear. Did that change too?

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No.

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Oh.

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No. Yeah, that's where you do the

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Right, you shoot at the little Zs.

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Yeah,

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yeah.

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Yeah. And tearfully, tearfully-

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Oh, no

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we, we went on Carousel of Progress.

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It's a great big beautiful tomorrow. Beautiful work. Yeah.

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Which is now shut down for rehab.

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Oh, okay. So they're just gonna rehab it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're not, they're not getting rid of it.

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Oh, no. They're not getting rid of it. Yeah,

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cause wasn't that a, um-

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From the World's Fair in- The

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World's Fair

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in New York. Yes. Yeah. It, the trouble is they're gonna rehab it back to the 1960s is where it will start.

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Oh, so we're not gonna be as far back-

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Right as it started. We're taking our history away. We're missing our history.

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Well, they, you know, they're trying to add more to the current then.

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Well, yeah. Yeah. And the, and they're gonna put an animatronic of Walt in there.

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Oh, that makes sense. Of

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Walt- That

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part makes sense

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doing, introducing the show.

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And with today's AI technology, it's probably gonna look like he's really sitting there.

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Well, I-

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Which is kind of scary.

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Yeah.

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So you went, naturally, of course, you always have to go to the Magic Kingdom.

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Right.

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But did you go to any of the other parks?

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Well,

Hollywood Studios Star Wars And Dining

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yeah. We went to Hollywood Studios.

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Okay.

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So- And that's on page one, by the way

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right, I'm looking at, I'm looking at your notes here. Yeah. I see your notes.

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And, and the attractions we went on were the alien swirling saucers.

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What is that?

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Of... It's a tilt-a-whirl.

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It's a tilt-a-whirl.

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I'm gonna call it a tilt-a-whirl. And the funny thing is, when you wait in line, Junior, our youngest grandson- Right this is his ride, you know?

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Oh, he likes it.

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Yeah, and you have to go on it. Th- you wait in line 30 minutes, whatever.

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Oh, that's not too bad.

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It's a two and a half minute attraction.

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Most of the attractions are about that length.

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Two and a half minutes. I timed it. Two and a half minutes, and, and then let's do it again.

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Well, if it's only a 30-minute wait, you might as well.

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Oh, you bet.

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But I, I don't even remember seeing it.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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Where, what part of the park is it in?

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It's in Toyland. You know, you haven't been there.

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No.

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You haven't been in the Toy Story

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area. In Toy Story-

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Mania

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I can never get in. I've- It's- When we were there and they had the Toy Story, we tried to get on it. Y- the line was like an hour and a half out. We waited. We got all the way through. We were about five minutes from getting on a ride- Yeah,

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it shut down

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or an attraction, and it shut down.

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Oh, no.

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So my husband and I have not gotten in yet.

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Okay. The big, the big thing, of course, is, uh, is Star Wars.

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Right.

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And the Millennium Falcon, the Smuggler's Run r- attraction is something- How

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was that?

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something else.

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Really?

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The line is something else.

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I'm sure.

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The, the, you know, what do, what do you call it? The, the queue to get in.

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Right.

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It's got all the stuff, and the, you know.

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So the line is ex- exciting as well.

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I, yeah, yeah, if you look around, yeah.

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If you- Now, did you buy the-

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No

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FastPass?

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No

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or Speed-

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Lightning Round

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Lightning-

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Lightning Lane

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Lightning Lane. No,

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no.

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Cause you do have to purchase those now. Years ago, you just had to-

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Right

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organize your day, but now you have to purchase them.

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Right. Mm-hmm. Now, in the M- in the Millennium Falcon, you actually sit in the cockpit of this rocket ship.

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Oh.

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There's six people that sit in

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it. Just like Chewbacca.

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Yeah. There, there's, there's a, a pilot, co-pilot, engineer, and the other guy, and I was the guy in the back.

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You were the guy in the back.

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Yeah. Was- Were you the bombardier? it was still, it was still all interaction. It, it's kind of amazing. I, I was amazed at it.

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Was it a, was it a long wait for the ride?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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And to get there is something else, too. Right.

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And of course, you went during a holiday weekend.

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Well, yeah.

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And so naturally, the park was probably a little bit more crowded than usual.

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Right.

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Okay. So you had all that experience. Now, did you eat at all at, in the parks?

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Well, yes. Uh, of course we ate in the park. We ate at r- um- Uh, the Roundup Rodeo. R- what's his name? Rodeo Roundup, you know.

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Rodeo Roundup?

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, um, Woody's. Woody's. Woody's Roundup.

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Right.

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And that's family style. We ha- we had lunch there. Right. But it's always great. You know, when they serve family style, y- you never go hungry, and that's in Hollywood Studios.

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Oh, that was in the studios,

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okay. But, but of course, okay, here we were, we were in Toyland, we were in, uh, the, the Star Wars. Right. We were in the restaurant- Right which was back in the Star, uh, Toy Story area. But my favorite- Right of, of the Hollywood Studios is the, the Brown Derby.

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It's still there.

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It's still there. They haven't

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taken

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that

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away yet. I've been, I've been to the Brown Derby there.

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Yeah.

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Well, then again, I was at the Brown Derby out in California.

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And of course, they've got the fabulous Cobb salad and great fruit cake, and, uh, boy, are they good.

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Did you enjoy that?

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They were good. That was good. And, and you know, it brings back the Golden Age of Hollywood, like-

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It really does

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like, yeah.

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Yeah, it really does. It's a nice setup, and, you know, the restaurant is nice.

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And I think-

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Nice

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atmosphere two, two of the things I like at the Hollywood Studios is just absolutely walking in the park-

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Right

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and looking at what old Hollywood used to look like. Ah. Allegedly. You know, allegedly.

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Allegedly.

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Yeah.

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Now, I know they took away one of the rides that I thought was hysterical, and that was the, uh, Rock 'n' Roller Coaster.

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Well, yeah.

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They've changed it, I don't know to what.

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Well, they put the Muppets in there.

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Oh, the Muppets are in there.

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Yeah.

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Okay, so it's still a rollercoaster- Yeah type of ride.

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It's still the... It's actually the same ride, they just changed the decoration around it.

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I remember going the first time on there, because I was one of those that I did not like to go upside down, whatever.

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Uh-huh.

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So I asked my daughter's friend's mother- Uh-huh 'cause she was there, and I said to her, "Does it go upside down?" She goes, "Gee, I don't remember." Well, it does go upside down. Oh,

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really? Okay, thank you, 'cause I haven't done it either. I'm, uh- It,

Speaker

and, but the things with the Rock 'n' Roller Coaster is you really didn't notice you were going upside down, because when you went upside down, the signs were upside down as well. Oh, no. So, you know, you felt like you were still going in the same direction. Oh,

Speaker 2

my goodness.

Speaker

Yeah, so.

Speaker 2

Oh, wow.

Speaker

But I, I managed, I survived, and it was, it was a fun ride.

Speaker 2

You, you did hear about the time I went on the Tron ride?

Speaker

Oh, and passed out?

Speaker 2

Yeah. It's a wonder I'm alive.

Speaker

Well, you gotta, you gotta judge these rides. Yeah. Some of them are a little bit exciting.

Speaker 2

It, that's more

Speaker

excitement- I haven't been on Tron. Yeah. I haven't been on, what's, the Snow White or the Seven Dwarfs ride?

Speaker 2

Yeah. With, yeah. That, that I hear is okay.

Speaker

I haven't been on the Seven Dwarfs. That's a- I haven't been on, in

Epcot Soarin' And Lightning Lane Debate

Speaker

Epcot. Now, we're gonna move to Epcot, because I used to love Epcot. Yeah. And you were there.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

And how did Epcot hold up for the holiday?

Speaker 2

It held up- Mm-hmm but it's just not the same. It's just not the same.

Speaker

More, more of what?

Speaker 2

Well, they added a whole, it took $3 billion to put a garden in, in the center.

Speaker

Well, it, that was because of the timeframe that you went. Didn't they-

Speaker 2

No, no, no didn't they have the garden show? This was the last couple of years. Oh. That, I mean, it took them $3 billion to change the decor of the front area.

Speaker

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker

So you still have, you know.

Speaker 2

Right. But the, the biggest thing going-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

in Epcot today-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

Soarin'. Soarin' Across America

Speaker

Oh, that was a fun ride,

Speaker 2

Soarin' Yeah, it's a sim- So

Speaker

they renovated it?

Speaker 2

Yeah. It's from, from right now they're celebrating the United States of America.

Speaker

Oh, cool.

Speaker 2

You know, it's a time journey that honors the heart and spirit of the nation as you soar through the 250th birthday of America.

Speaker

So it's still a similar ride-

Speaker 2

Oh,

Speaker

yeah it's just the scenery has changed. Oh,

Speaker 2

right. Right.

Speaker

L- and to tell you the truth, that was a really fun ride.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

I mean, it's not a scary ride. No. It's exciting. My mother even loved it.

Speaker 2

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker

Yeah, and she was in her 80s.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

You know, so she loved it, and she, you know, she, "Oh, that was fun. She would go on that again."

Speaker 2

Yeah. Um- Do you have another hour and a half? Wait.

Speaker

Right. Yeah. But again, Soarin' was always a long wait.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Yeah. So I do not know, and I should find out, how much those Lightning Passes are, because- Too much they are, they are pretty pricey. But then again, you know, if you're there with a whole bunch of people and you don't want to spend two hours on line, or if it's very hot-

Speaker 2

But the problem is- it helps they're selling so many of them, you'll end up waiting in the-

Speaker

You're waiting in the, in the Lightning Line.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Okay, so that's a, that's a bunch of BS.

Speaker

So you went on Soarin' in Epcot.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker

And now Guardian- Now- the Guardians of the Galaxy-

Speaker 2

Yeah

Speaker

replaced Ellen- Now- DeGeneres, right?

Speaker 2

Yes. Yes. Okay. Um,

Speaker

it- But that's a rollercoaster now

Speaker 2

right. It's, they tore the whole building down and built... It's the largest building on Epcot.

Speaker

Is it really?

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Man, oh, man, do we have to get back there. I'm gonna have to tell- Yeah my husband.

Speaker 2

Um, but that's not, I didn't do it. Oh. I, I had to bring up the fact that Junior, a grandson-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

and his father-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

they, they go to Galaxy.

Speaker

They went on it.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Okay.

Speaker 2

Yeah. And, and the other thing, the biggest stop in, um, Epcot is the DVC rest area. For, for members of the DVC For

Speaker

members of the Disney Vacation

Speaker 2

Club. Club. It's above, it's above, um... Where is it? Oh, um, Imagination. You know our Imaginationers? Oh, yes. Yeah.

Speaker

Imagination.

Speaker 2

Yeah. It's over

Speaker

there.

Speaker 2

There's a, there's a lounge up above-

Speaker

Oh

Speaker 2

for the DVCs. That's for your DVC. I'm sorry if I'm talking about you,

Speaker

but- Oh, yes.

Speaker 2

Yeah. And we, you get a Coca-Cola and a bag of chips.

Speaker

Woo. That's included? That's included in your lounging time?

Speaker 2

Yes. You

Speaker

can- Oh, okay.

Speaker 2

You can get a Coca-Cola, and yeah.

Speaker

Okay.

July 4 Fireworks, Heat, And Rain

Speaker

Well, you know, I, I personally did not see many fireworks on the 4th of July.

Speaker 2

Really?

Speaker

Um, we really didn't. We went out to celebrate my husband's brand-new kidney.

Speaker 2

Oh, yes. It

Speaker

was one whole year.

Speaker 2

One year, yeah.

Speaker

And we celebrated that, and then we came home and, you know, there was... Everybody was blowing fireworks all around my house.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

So we really didn't go anywhere t- after that.

Speaker 2

You didn't need to.

Speaker

Didn't need to.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

But you went- Well- and you saw fireworks at Epcot and fireworks at the Magic Kingdom.

Speaker 2

Right. Magic Kingdom was the night before the 4th.

Speaker

Okay.

Speaker 2

But yet they do the firework spectacular for the 4th as well, on the, the day before. And then at Epcot, they did their normal show, which is Illuminous: A Symphony of Us.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

And then they did a Salute to America.

Speaker

That was cool.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

That was cool. I wonder if they're gonna keep that going all year now.

Speaker 2

Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker

Yeah. I don't think so. You're gonna have to go again.

Speaker 2

I don't, I, I don't think so, because that was, like, a 4th of July thing. So that was a park thing- Mm-hmm for the 4th.

Speaker

Now, what was the weather like? Do you remember?

Speaker 2

Hot.

Speaker

Well.

Speaker 2

Hot.

Speaker

We have been experiencing- Just like the weather forecast some high heat here. Hot. Yes. But did you get rained on?

Speaker 2

A little.

Speaker

A little. Just a little. It- And that's something that I like to tell a lot of the listeners, that if you are going to Disney, here we are in Florida. During the summer, you always have an afternoon shower, which is the norm And Disney does not shut down- No when the rain comes. You just don your poncho, which is probably sold in every store there-

Speaker 2

Right

Speaker

and just keep going.

Speaker 2

Well, the secret is stay on Disney property.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

And then get to the parks early in the morning.

Speaker

Early in the day.

Speaker 2

Mm-hmm. 2:00, come home, take a nap, get a snack.

Speaker

Right. Let the storm pass.

Speaker 2

5:00, head back to the park, whichever one you got to, and, and you'll see the magic alive as the lights come on at any park in Disney.

Speaker

So do you have plans to go to Disney soon again?

Speaker 2

Uh,

Riviera Stay, Skyliner, And Park Reservations

Speaker 2

September we're heading there.

Speaker

Oh, in September.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Are you gonna be staying at the Disney Vacation Club again?

Speaker 2

Well, yeah, we'll be at the, uh, Riviera.

Speaker

Now, I didn't, I did not even know about that-

Speaker 2

Yeah

Speaker

until just recently.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

So I can't wait to hear the stories. It's a French

Speaker 2

provincial.

Speaker

It's a French provincial.

Speaker 2

And the great thing about it is the, um, uh, skyline, what is the, the-

Speaker

Right, those little-

Speaker 2

Gondola cars gondola

Speaker

cars that go

Speaker 2

over It can take you either to Epcot or the studio.

Speaker

Oh, very cool.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Very cool, very cool, because

Speaker 2

it's probably close. It's the best way, it's the best way to get in and out of a park I've ever seen.

Speaker

I haven't been on the gondola rides.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah.

Speaker

Well, I lie, because they had them in California.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

So I've been on them in California.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but-

Speaker

And now we have them here, which are a lot longer.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Yeah. But when you're coming out, you're dr- wa- you're flying over the parking lot as people are trying to get out.

Speaker

That's really cool.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

That's really cool. Yeah. And people don't realize that you can jump on and off of those rides even if you don't go to the park.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's- Yeah maybe changing.

Speaker

Oh, they're gonna change that now too?

Speaker 2

If you don't have a reservation, yeah.

Speaker

Right. Now, you didn't need to make reservations for the park, though.

Speaker 2

Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh,

Speaker

you had to make reservations-

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah to

Speaker

get into the park.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah

Speaker

Yeah, so that, they're still doing that

Speaker 2

And every time I go up and put my finger on the thing-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

call a manager over.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

Uh, are you Jay?" "Yes, I'm Jay. Yes."

Speaker

Right, they're just making sure you are you, I think.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Because that, that came into play during COVID.

Speaker 2

Oh, this was long before that.

Speaker

Right. It's-

Speaker 2

The finger thing on the scanner well, the finger thing

Speaker

came in long before that, but the, the actual appointments, reservations- Oh yeah, that to get into the park. That, yeah. That came in during COVID- Yeah 'cause they had to keep control of the amount of people in the park.

Speaker 2

Yeah, bummer.

Speaker

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So they could make more money.

Speaker

Right. That's what they're doing So now they're really making a lot of-

Speaker 2

They're limiting the number of people and making more money. Think of it. And it's all my fault.

Speaker

You did it. You did it.

Speaker 2

Because I took a survey- Right several years ago. Right. And I said, "The park's too crowded. What are you gonna do about it?"

Speaker

Oh, see? And- Look what you started

Speaker 2

and they did. And it's costing me more.

Speaker

Well,

Allegiant Air Review And Upgrading Seats

Speaker

I, I flew up to New York.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah?

Speaker

Yeah, we took a f- we took a flight. I went on Allegiant. Were your

Speaker 2

arms tired?

Speaker

Yes, my arms were very tired. Uh, we went on Allegiant. Um, very nice people, very, you know, sociable flight attendants. The pilot was nice. Um, but I do not like their planes.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah?

Speaker

Their planes are extremely squashed.

Speaker 2

No, you're, you're just saying inside-

Speaker

Inside the plane

Speaker 2

they just don't leave much room for seats.

Speaker

I'll, I'll tell you.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Even the flight attendants were almost sidestepping down the aisle.

Speaker 2

Oh my goodness.

Speaker

Yeah. That's how... And every time, 'cause I sit on the aisle.

Speaker 2

Yeah. I'm

Speaker

a little claustrophobic.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

So I can't sit three in by the window.

Speaker 2

Right. Right.

Speaker

So I sit by the aisle, and I'm okay usually, and I put my feet under, and I put my little purse under, whatever. Um, I couldn't even get my, my bag underneath the seat. Really? It was that small, which meant- Oh my my bag was squashed. I tried to put my feet on top of the bag, and then every time the flight attendant or a person walked past, I had to crunch my shoulders in- Uh-huh so they wouldn't knock into me.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

So it was a very uncomfortable flight.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker

But, like I said, everybody was polite, the service was okay, and it's quick and easy to get to s- point A to point B.

Speaker 2

Do they have s- assigned seats, or do you pay for them?

Speaker

Yes. You do have a little upcharge if you want to sit in certain spots. Mm. And I told my daughter when... 'Cause she kidnapped us. Yeah? My daughter came to visit, and she says, "Well," I said, "Well, you wanna drive back?" And she said, "Yeah, let's drive back." And then she decided last minute, "Nah, I don't feel like driving," and she just bought us tickets, and we flew back.

Speaker 2

Oh, wow.

Speaker

And she said, "Yeah, we're flying back." And I told my daughter, I said, "I'm not getting back on that plane. It was too crowded." So she-

Speaker 2

Well, you left her there, didn't you?

Speaker

Right. She stayed in New York. Yeah. I says, "I'm gonna drive back down." And she says, "No, no, I'm gonna move your seats all the way to the front." I mean, I was so close to the pilot I could've tapped him on the shoulder.

Speaker 2

Those dang kids, they know how to do things, don't they?

Speaker

But the seats really didn't change. Yeah. It gave you a little from seat to chest area, but nothing- underneath for your legs, you know? Uh-huh. So, like I said, I went Allegiant. It was inexpensive in comparison to some of the other flights.

Speaker 2

Mm-hmm.

Speaker

But I also told my husband, I said, "This is the last flight we're getting on in economy. We are going to go business class from now on."

Speaker 2

Absolutely.

Speaker

I like that.

Speaker 2

I'm going first class. Yes, I am.

Speaker

First class, I might have to wait a while for that. Yeah. But business class I'll do. I'm gonna have to

Speaker 2

rob a bank, but, uh,

Speaker

yeah. Oh, that, yeah. Have you seen some of the first class flights?

Speaker 2

Oh, j- yeah.

Speaker

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Uh-

Speaker

You got your own bedroom

Speaker 2

com- yeah, coming home from, uh, Europe this last summer. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I saw some of those, and I couldn't... I don't even think I wanna fly in first class. It's not that... You- you're- you've- you're like in a cone-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

and you're not really sitting beside anybody. Mm-hmm. And it's, it was really weird. So I, I think that was, yeah.

Speaker

Yeah. I, so- It's very strange, and some of the flights, they actually look like bedrooms.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah. On Delta, where I like to fly- Mm-hmm I fly, uh, what is it called? It's not first class, it's not third class, it's-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

it's, uh, premium or something. Right,

Speaker

right.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

It's not first, it's not business, it's a, like extra, extra culture

Speaker 2

thing. I get an extra six inches is what I get. Right, you

Speaker

get an extra six.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

But the United, the, uh, Emirates Airlines.

Speaker 2

Oh, phew.

Speaker

They, they have like a whole bedroom.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

You know, several bedrooms which are considered first class.

Speaker 2

Okay, I'm gonna fly. Okay. Right. This is hypothetical, you know?

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

C- I'm going overseas. Right. I'm flying. Can you lay down and go to sleep- I mean,

Speaker

I- I can't, but my husband would do it in a second.

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker

Oh, yeah. He can, he can drop, drop it a- at a hat,

Speaker 2

yeah. Yeah. Well, I can sleep in a chair. Right. I can sleep sitting up flying.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

But I don't know about a bed.

Speaker

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Do I have to change- They have

Speaker

a bed. It's like a movie theater. Yeah,

Speaker 2

you- Do I have to change my clothes? You know.

Speaker

You can if you want. Some of those flights are a little long.

First Class Dreams And 22-Hour Flights

Speaker 2

Well, yeah.

Speaker

As a matter of fact, there's a new flight coming out which is going to be the longest flight ever. From,

Speaker 2

from where?

Speaker

Uh, it's gonna be from the United States, and I believe it's going to Australia- Oh, yeah? or Singapore. It's like 22 hours.

Speaker 2

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker

Yeah, straight.

Speaker 2

Nonstop?

Speaker

Nonstop.

Speaker 2

What plane is doing that?

Speaker

Um, I don't know off the top of my head-

Speaker 2

Wow

Speaker

because it hasn't come out yet. Wow. But the longest right now is 20-hour flight, and I think that goes to Singapore.

Speaker 2

Oh, wow.

Speaker

Yeah. So it's, they're starting to do longer flights.

Speaker 2

Do they have a flight out of Orlando to Australia?

Speaker

Not direct, no.

Speaker 2

I thought there was a direct flight. No. Where did I hear that?

Speaker

No. Not yet. I

Speaker 2

believe someone I interviewed-

Speaker

Mm-hmm

Speaker 2

for Collage Travel Radio.

Speaker

Right. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2

At one time, I thought that's what she said. They

Speaker

were working on it.

Speaker 2

Oh, really?

Speaker

Yeah, but this is not gonna fly out of Orlando.

Speaker 2

Oh, okay.

Speaker

Not, not yet anyway.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker

Not yet anyway.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

And Orlando now has Air France back, so that's, that's nice, and Air France has some really nice planes.

Speaker 2

Oh, good.

Speaker

Mm-hmm.

Closing Thoughts On Rediscovering America

Speaker 2

Good.

Speaker

But, well, thank you for joining me today. Well- And we can keep rediscovering America are we

Speaker 2

rattling on? Yeah.

Speaker

Is

Speaker 2

that it? Yeah. You wanna get rid of me? Is that it?

Speaker

We're rattling on. We're rattling on. But it's gonna be fun rediscovering America. Yeah. You are going to probably go to Colorado, hopefully, this year.

Speaker 2

Sometime in the year. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker

Yeah, and your wife is going up to Canada. Yeah. She's gonna go to Banff.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Which is gonna be nice. Yeah. Has she been there yet?

Speaker 2

No, she hasn't been there.

Speaker

Ooh, it's pretty. No. It's purty up there. Yeah,

Speaker 2

they're going in September, so.

Speaker

It's gonna be a little chilly.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Well, that's, uh, it's the time to go.

Speaker

But you're not joining her on the Banff-

Speaker 2

Oh, no. No, no

Speaker

she's going with the girls.

Speaker 2

Part of the prenuptial was that she went with the girls.

Speaker

Ah, she's going with her girlfriends. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, thank you for joining me today. And of course, like I always say, shoot for the stars, and if you only get to the Moon, at least you made the trip. This is Zee Michaelson. I'll see you on your next adventure Hey, it's C. Michaelson

Restart: Disney And New York Setup

Speaker

here, and you know what? Like I promised, I brought Jay Lawrence back. Both of us have been doing a little bit of traveling in these past few weeks, and I went up to New York, and Jay, you stayed local right here

Speaker 2

in Florida. Oh, I traveled all around the world. I went to Disney World. You went to Disney. Yeah.

Speaker

So where did you stay in Disney?

Speaker 2

Well, since we're DVC members, today, or, well, we were there on the 4th of July,

Speaker

and we- Okay, so the holiday weekend.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Mm-hmm. We stayed at the Saratoga Springs Resort and Spa.

Speaker

Oh, okay. I know exactly that, Saratoga Springs.

Speaker 2

It's one of the... It's one of the older resorts, older DVC buildings.

Speaker

It is. It really is.

Speaker 2

And it came, it was in the same place where they had the, Disney, University. It wasn't Disney University. It was called Disney Academy or something like that.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

And so that didn't go over real big, so they built Saratoga Springs all around it.

Speaker

Now, you went to Saratoga Springs Resort-

Speaker 2

Mm-hmm

Speaker

and I was up near Saratoga Springs in New York.

Speaker 2

Oh, my goodness. How close could we be?

Speaker

Right. So we both spent some

Speaker 2

time there thousand miles apart, yeah.

Speaker

Okay. So-

Speaker 2

Well, you know, Saratoga Springs was a, horse racing place in- It still is in New York.

Speaker

It still is.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah, and it was built like in the 1800s- Yes in New York.

Speaker

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2

But, uh, so they put the Victorian style resort charm at Disney.

Speaker

Yes. It

Speaker 2

is very pretty. And you know one of the, one of the things I, uh, discovered was that they didn't want to put any palm trees in the resort area. They wanted it to look like the New York area. So there's no palm trees in, uh, Saratoga Springs.

Speaker

That's pretty odd considering there's probably palm trees all around the outside- Well, of

Speaker 2

course

Speaker

of this resort. Of

Speaker 2

course. But I, I, it just, it just had a different feel to it.

Speaker

Now, a funny story.

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker

Uh, years ago I used to live up near Saratoga Springs.

Speaker 2

No.

Speaker

Yes. And the track was one of my clients.

Speaker 2

Oh, really?

Speaker

And, my cousin and I went to have some lunch there- Uh-huh during racing season, and we were down at the bottom, and we were having a nice lunch, and we just finished lunch, and there were several tiers of the restaurant.

Speaker 2

Mm.

Speaker

So above us was another table and chairs, and the waitress didn't realize when she dumped the water pitcher out, that there were people below.

Speaker 2

Oh, no.

Speaker

Yes. Yes. My cousin got a little bit drenched with the water that was dumped on her head. Needless to say, that lunch was free that day. Oh,

Speaker 2

yeah. Another thing about, uh, Saratoga Springs, if I may mention it- Mm-hmm you can see the golf course. It kinda wanders around it, and so you can see that from, from the village itself or from the resort.

Speaker

Okay. So if you're staying at Saratoga Springs, can you go and play golf?

Speaker 2

I think you can.

Speaker

Oh, fabulous.

Speaker 2

You can go play golf wherever you're at.

Speaker

Now, I know you haven't played golf in a while.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker

And I know your wife used to play as well. Does she... Did she go play golf?

Speaker 2

She threw her golf clubs away when she married

Speaker

me. She figured, "Well, you're not gonna go." Yeah. "Mind if I get rid of them?" So now you spent some time up at Disney for the holiday.

Speaker 2

Right. I gotta mention, you know, you're gonna ask me about food.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

And Saratoga Springs has a great Surf Club Bar and Grill.

Speaker

Okay.

Speaker 2

And we had dinner there one night.

Speaker

What did you have?

Speaker 2

Well, the, uh... I had... What did I have? I had the prime rib. Everybody else had something different.

Speaker

That's nice.

Speaker 2

Yeah. But I had the prime rib, and it was very good. And, the thing about the Turf Club, it reminds you of an old clubhouse for the racetrack. Oh. So, you know, uh-

Speaker

Just like where my cousin got drenched.

Speaker 2

Yes. Yeah. Except there was only one floor. Yeah. And also, Saratoga Springs has the Treehouse Villas experience, which is part of Saratoga Springs. It's off to the side.

Speaker

Now, I'm very familiar with the Treehouse Villas, 'cause they will house, uh, a few more people than just two to four.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker

Yes.

Speaker 2

Yes. I, I have a family- They have a quite a few I know that they're bringing their whole family down for that.

Speaker

Yes. It is very nice. It's real fun. Yeah. It's fun, particularly for the kids.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker

So now-

Speaker 2

So that's my Saratoga Springs story.

Speaker

That's where you stayed.

Speaker 2

And I'm gonna... I'm sticking to it. Yeah.

Speaker

So you stayed in Saratoga Springs, but you can't go to Saratoga Springs without at least attending a couple of the parks.

Speaker 2

Right. Right. Positives about Saratoga Springs-

Speaker

Mm-hmm

Speaker 2

they have bus service to all the parks.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

One of the negatives about Saratoga Springs bus service, it's the last stop on the road.

Speaker

It's the last on the journey coming back- Yeah when you're exhausted.

Speaker 2

So you can get to the Magic Kingdom real quick. But plan on a half an hour to get home, you know?

Speaker

So now, you know, like I said, you know, we've been rediscovering America.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

You've been, you were here rediscovering right here in our backyard.

Upstate New York Local Food Stops

Speaker

I went up to New York, went to visit my daughter, and she lives in the upstate region of New York.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

Um, just kinda relaxed. She took us to some of the local restaurants up there. And I like to do that

Speaker 2

I can't see you reading

Speaker

I know.

Speaker 2

I, I just can't see you reading.

Speaker

I, I like to go to the local establishments-

Speaker 2

Uh-huh

Speaker

because I like to give business to the local guys.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker

She brought me to a pizza parlor, and I'm saying that with a New York accent, pizza. Pizza parlor, and it was delicious.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah?

Speaker

Oh, yeah. We had to go there twice, and we were only there for a week, and we had to go twice to this restaurant. Oh,

Speaker 2

wow. What kind of pizza did you have?

Speaker

Um, we had the two separate types. They did Sicilian, which is the square thick, and then they had the regular round.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

And we tried that, but they used lots of fresh ingredients. Oh, yeah? Fresh basil and fresh Parmesan cheese, and it was all so fresh and delicious.

Speaker 2

Now, I'm a crust guy. I like a thin crust pizza. What was the pizza?

Speaker

Well, the round pizza is more of a thinner crust.

Speaker 2

Yeah, thinner, but not thin.

Speaker

Thinner. It's not like Chicago.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah.

Speaker

Yeah. Good Chicago has those thick pizzas.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's why, that's why I love Chicago.

Speaker

But she also brought us for dessert-

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah?

Speaker

to a place that you don't really see anymore, a drive-in theater.

Speaker 2

What?

Speaker

A drive-in.

Speaker 2

A drive-in theater?

Speaker

Yes, there's two- What was the movie? up where she lives. We didn't go see the movie.

Speaker 2

What? Why, you went

Speaker

to- We were just going there for the ice cream because they make homemade ice cream.

Speaker 2

Oh, my.

Speaker

Yes.

Speaker 2

Was the theater running the movie-

Speaker

Right at the same time? Yeah, the theater was gonna run a movie. You know, we went right before dark.

Speaker 2

Oh. Oh,

Speaker

okay. So they did have movies gonna be showing there.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

But we had the ice cream there, and it was delicious.

Speaker 2

Did they have a big parking lot so you could- Yeah you could park?

Speaker

Yeah, they had a parking lot just to get your ice cream. Just for ice cream.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker

Or just drive into the theater. Well, do

Speaker 2

you remember the name of the place?

Speaker

No, I don't.

Speaker 2

No. Okay. Yeah,

Speaker

there was two of them.

Speaker 2

So, and this was in New York?

Speaker

In New York. New York. Upstate New York.

Speaker 2

Oh.

Speaker

Upstate.

Speaker 2

Upstate.

Speaker

Upstate.

Speaker 2

Upstate New York.

Speaker

Now, I remember going to drive-ins years ago when I was a kid.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

You don't see many of those anymore.

Speaker 2

Well, no. No.

Speaker

And

Speaker 2

they're fun. The, the- They're fun that could be, I had seen a thing on YouTube about the drive-ins, and that could be, like, one of the only ones left in the country. They have

Speaker

two. They have two?

Speaker 2

They have

Speaker

two by them, yes. Oh,

Speaker 2

my goodness.

Speaker

Yeah. I mean, in the wintertime, naturally it's closing down because- Yeah you know, there's snow on the ground. I remember living in that part of New York, and, you know-

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah

Speaker

I left when there was seven feet of snow in the driveway. I said I had enough of the winter.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

But she likes the season, so she's back up there. So

Speaker 2

when you're in the drive-in, they run the sound through your car. Through

Speaker

the car.

Speaker 2

Right? Mm-hmm. Through a Bluetooth thing.

Speaker

But some of them, she says one of the locations still has the boxes.

Speaker 2

Oh, really?

Speaker

How funny is that?

Speaker 2

Oh.

Speaker

And again, privately owned.

Speaker 2

Oh, cool.

Speaker

And this is all in the United States.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Yeah, so now tell me a little bit more about the parks that you went to.

Speaker 2

Oh,

Magic Kingdom Favorites And Lost Riverboat

Speaker 2

are we back at Disney now? We're

Speaker

back at Disney. Okay. We're gonna bounce back and forth- We- 'cause we're traveling the United States we,

Speaker 2

we came back to Florida. Well, you know, the place to go right now is the Magic Kingdom.

Speaker

Yes.

Speaker 2

And, um, and of course our family, my... You know, my wife's Italian.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

And if you don't know, you're having breakfast, you gotta know what you're having for dinner at night, you know? Of course. Or breakfast the next day.

Speaker

I'm sure she's taken something out of the freezer already- before you left the house today.

Speaker 2

But, we ate at the, Liberty Tree Tavern.

Speaker

Oh, I love Liberty Tree Tavern.

Speaker 2

Oh, right, which is one of my favorite places.

Speaker

It's a family-style sit-down.

Speaker 2

Yes. Mm-hmm. That's... You took the words right out of my mouth And, you know, th- they have different rooms at the Liberty Tree Tavern.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

The rooms are like the Ben Franklin Room, the Jefferson Room, the John Paul Jones Room, Paul Revere, Betsy Ross, and the George Washington Room. Yeah.

Speaker

And good old George.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2

And you know the fun thing about that, you mentioned it's family style, and oh man, I can, uh, eat like-

Speaker

Yeah, they give you like ham and turkey- Oh and potatoes and vegetables. Yeah, it's

Speaker 2

like Thanksgiving every day. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker

Yeah. But- And they just keep bringing it over oh, yeah Once you're out of one thing, they just keep bringing it over. Yeah. Now, were the characters in there?

Speaker 2

No, not, no. No characters.

Speaker

They took the characters away.

Speaker 2

Just took the, just the, the, the serving staff is dressed in costume.

Speaker

In costume.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Cause it used to have the characters. Yeah,

Speaker 2

yeah.

Speaker

And they o- they too were dressed in period costume.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah, but, uh, you know, "Hey, get out. We gotta, we gotta get the folks in here."

Speaker

Now, I didn't tell you, but you know George Washington, I went to go see that movie.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah?

Speaker

Young Washington.

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker

Yeah, it was really good. In the theater? I enjoyed it. In the theater.

Speaker 2

Oh, really?

Speaker

In the theater, the theater. What

Speaker 2

did you learn?

Speaker

Y- I learned that he had a brother. Oh, oh yeah? I didn't know that he had... It was either a half-brother or, you know, stepbrother. He had an older brother-

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah?

Speaker

who actually owned Mount Vernon.

Speaker 2

Oh.

Speaker

He owned it, so when he passed on, he bequeathed it- He gave it to George to George.

Speaker 2

But did, did they show him chopping down the cherry tree?

Speaker

They showed him chopping trees.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah?

Speaker

And apparently that's what he did to get his frustrations out, 'cause he was, you know- Ah when he got mad, he would take an ax and chop at trees to get his frustrations out.

Speaker 2

Well-

Speaker

But it was very good. I, there's some of the things in there that you know- Yeah and some of the things that you don't know. Well, cool. I enjoyed the movie.

Speaker 2

Can

Speaker

we get- And again, rediscovering

Speaker 2

America. Can we, can we get back to Disney, the Magic Kingdom, and the Liberty Tree? Well, we're moving out

Speaker

of the Liberty Tavern.

Speaker 2

Well, you know, you walk outside the Liberty Tavern, and across the square-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

is the Hall of Presidents.

Speaker

Ah, see, president

Speaker 2

to president. And that's one of my favorite attractions is to attend that. But then if you look to your left when you're going that way, on your way to the

Speaker

I'm looking to my left

Speaker 2

yeah, you know, the Haunted Mansion.

Speaker

Okay.

Speaker 2

It's just a wall of green. They've taken a lot of the magic out because they've taken the river out, the Rivers of America. Oh, they took the river

Speaker

out?

Speaker 2

You didn't know that?

Speaker

I haven't been to Disney in two years.

Speaker 2

Where have you been?

Speaker

So that big-

Speaker 2

The biggest story

Speaker

in- steamship is gone?

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Oh, no.

Speaker 2

Absolutely. They're gonna put a Cars ride in there. I mean- Oh oh, I cannot believe it. On

Speaker

that side? It doesn't seem to fit.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's just, uh, th- they're, they're theming it to look like mountains and stuff like that, I guess, but-

Speaker

Oh, like- But- like Route 66.

Speaker 2

Yeah. We'll have to look, but- Right uh, I was so disappointed because I looked over to my left. I remember the last time, the, uh, over a year ago, I went to Disney to ride the boat one last time, so I made sure I was on that-

Speaker

Oh

Speaker 2

riverboat going around.

Speaker

Yeah, my husband and I were just talking about that the other day, because there are separate passes for us locals.

Speaker 2

Right. Right.

Speaker

And there's different levels that you can purchase.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker

And we were talking about that, because we haven't been there in, like, two years.

Speaker 2

You... Yeah, yeah. You need to go.

Speaker

Yeah, we

Speaker 2

do need to. And oh, okay, th- if you walk all the way around where the rivers used to be, Big Thunder Mountain did w- open up again.

Speaker

Right, they renovated

Speaker 2

it. They rehabbed it.

Speaker

Yeah, they made

Speaker 2

it- And, and I didn't get there- bigger and better but I understand the ride is much smoother. So it's a fun ride. I want to get on it the next time I get there.

Speaker

But the whole idea behind Thunder Mountain was it's supposed to be a rickety, rackety-

Speaker 2

Yeah

Speaker

experience because it was, you know-

Speaker 2

Going through the mountain.

Speaker

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2

Well.

Speaker

So you didn't get on that ride?

Speaker 2

I didn't get on it, no.

Speaker

Oh, well.

Speaker 2

But we did do, uh, Buzz Lightyear.

Speaker

I love Buzz Lightyear. Did that change too?

Speaker 2

No.

Speaker

Oh.

Speaker 2

No. Yeah, that's where you do the

Speaker

Right, you shoot at the little Zs.

Speaker 2

Yeah,

Speaker

yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah. And tearfully, tearfully-

Speaker

Oh, no

Speaker 2

we, we went on Carousel of Progress.

Speaker

It's a great big beautiful tomorrow. Beautiful work. Yeah.

Speaker 2

Which is now shut down for rehab.

Speaker

Oh, okay. So they're just gonna rehab it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're not, they're not getting rid of it.

Speaker 2

Oh, no. They're not getting rid of it. Yeah,

Speaker

cause wasn't that a, um-

Speaker 2

From the World's Fair in- The

Speaker

World's Fair

Speaker 2

in New York. Yes. Yeah. It, the trouble is they're gonna rehab it back to the 1960s is where it will start.

Speaker

Oh, so we're not gonna be as far back-

Speaker 2

Right as it started. We're taking our history away. We're missing our history.

Speaker

Well, they, you know, they're trying to add more to the current then.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah. Yeah. And the, and they're gonna put an animatronic of Walt in there.

Speaker

Oh, that makes sense. Of

Speaker 2

Walt- That

Speaker

part makes sense

Speaker 2

doing, introducing the show.

Speaker

And with today's AI technology, it's probably gonna look like he's really sitting there.

Speaker 2

Well, I-

Speaker

Which is kind of scary. So you went, naturally, of course, you always have to go to the Magic Kingdom.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker

But did you go to any of the other parks?

Speaker 2

Well, yeah. We

Hollywood Studios Rides And Smugglers Run

Speaker 2

went to Hollywood Studios.

Speaker

Okay.

Speaker 2

So- And that's on page one, by the way

Speaker

right, I'm looking at, I'm looking at your notes here. Yeah. I see your notes.

Speaker 2

And, and the attractions we went on were the alien swirling saucers.

Speaker

What is that?

Speaker 2

Of... It's a tilt-a-whirl.

Speaker

It's a tilt-a-whirl.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna call it a tilt-a-whirl. And the funny thing is, when you wait in line, Junior, our youngest grandson- Right this is his ride, you know?

Speaker

Oh, he likes it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and you have to go on it. Th- you wait in line 30 minutes, whatever.

Speaker

Oh, that's not too bad.

Speaker 2

It's a two and a half minute attraction.

Speaker

Most of the attractions are about that length.

Speaker 2

Two and a half minutes. I timed it. Two and a half minutes, and, and then let's do it again.

Speaker

Well, if it's only a 30-minute wait, you might as well.

Speaker 2

Oh, you bet.

Speaker

But I, I don't even remember seeing it.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker

Where, what part of the park is it in?

Speaker 2

It's in Toyland. You know, you haven't been there.

Speaker

No.

Speaker 2

You haven't been in the Toy Story

Speaker

area. In Toy Story-

Speaker 2

Mania

Speaker

I can never get in. I've- It's- When we were there and they had the Toy Story, we tried to get on it. Y- the line was like an hour and a half out. We waited. We got all the way through. We were about five minutes from getting on a ride- Yeah,

Speaker 2

it shut down

Speaker

or an attraction, and it shut down.

Speaker 2

Oh, no.

Speaker

So my husband and I have not gotten in yet.

Speaker 2

Okay. The big, the big thing, of course, is, Star Wars.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

And the Millennium Falcon, the Smuggler's Run r- attraction is something- How

Speaker

was that?

Speaker 2

something else.

Speaker

Really?

Speaker 2

The line is something else.

Speaker

I'm sure.

Speaker 2

The, the, you know, what do, what do you call it? The, the queue to get in.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

It's got all the stuff, and the, you know.

Speaker

So the line is ex- exciting as well.

Speaker 2

I, yeah, yeah, if you look around, yeah.

Speaker

If you- Now, did you buy the-

Speaker 2

No

Speaker

FastPass?

Speaker 2

No

Speaker

or Speed-

Speaker 2

Lightning Round

Speaker

Lightning-

Speaker 2

Lightning Lane

Speaker

Lightning Lane. No,

Speaker 2

no.

Speaker

Cause you do have to purchase those now. Years ago, you just had to-

Speaker 2

Right

Speaker

organize your day, but now you have to purchase them.

Speaker 2

Right. Mm-hmm. Now, in the Millennium Falcon, you actually sit in the cockpit of this rocket ship.

Speaker

Oh.

Speaker 2

There's six people that sit in

Speaker

it. Just like Chewbacca.

Speaker 2

Yeah. There, there's, there's a, a pilot, co-pilot, engineer, and the other guy, and I was the guy in the back.

Speaker

You were the guy in the back.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Was- Were you the bombardier? it was still, it was still all interaction. It, it's kind of amazing. I, I was amazed at it.

Speaker

Was it a, was it a long wait for the ride?

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah.

Speaker

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And to get there is something else, too. Right.

Speaker

And of course, you went during a holiday weekend.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah.

Speaker

And so naturally, the park was probably a little bit more crowded than usual.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker

Okay. So you had all that experience. Now, did you eat at all at, in the parks?

Speaker 2

Well, yes. Uh, of course we ate in the park. We ate at the Roundup Rodeo. R- what's his name? Rodeo Roundup, you know.

Speaker

Rodeo Roundup?

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2

And, um, Woody's. Woody's. Woody's Roundup.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

And that's family style. We ha- we had lunch there. Right. But it's always great. You know, when they serve family style, y- you never go hungry, and that's in Hollywood Studios.

Speaker

Oh, that was in the studios,

Speaker 2

okay. But, but of course, okay, here we were, we were in Toyland, we were in, uh, the, Star Wars. Right. We were in the restaurant- Right which was back in the Toy Story area. But my favorite- Right of, of the Hollywood Studios is the, the Brown Derby.

Speaker

It's still there.

Speaker 2

It's still there. They haven't

Speaker

taken

Speaker 2

that

Speaker

away yet. I've been, I've been to the Brown Derby there.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Well, then again, I was at the Brown Derby out in California.

Speaker 2

And of course, they've got the fabulous Cobb salad and great fruit cake, and, uh, boy, are they good.

Speaker

Did you enjoy that?

Speaker 2

They were good. That was good. And, and you know, it brings back the Golden Age of Hollywood, like-

Speaker

It really does

Speaker 2

like, yeah.

Speaker

Yeah, it really does. It's a nice setup, and, you know, the restaurant is nice.

Speaker 2

And I think-

Speaker

Nice

Speaker 2

atmosphere two, two of the things I like at the Hollywood Studios is just absolutely walking in the park-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

and looking at what old Hollywood used to look like. Ah. Allegedly. You know, allegedly.

Speaker

Allegedly.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Now, I know they took away one of the rides that I thought was hysterical, and that was the, uh, Rock 'n' Roller Coaster.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah.

Speaker

They've changed it, I don't know to what.

Speaker 2

Well, they put the Muppets in there.

Speaker

Oh, the Muppets are in there.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Okay, so it's still a rollercoaster- Yeah type of ride.

Speaker 2

It's still the... It's actually the same ride, they just changed the decoration around it.

Speaker

I remember going the first time on there, because I was one of those that I did not like to go upside down, whatever.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

So I asked my daughter's friend's mother- Uh-huh 'cause she was there, and I said to her, "Does it go upside down?" She goes, "Gee, I don't remember." Well, it does go upside down. Oh,

Speaker 2

really? Okay, thank you, 'cause I haven't done it either. I'm, uh- It,

Speaker

and, but the things with the Rock 'n' Roller Coaster is you really didn't notice you were going upside down, because when you went upside down, the signs were upside down as well. Oh, no. So, you know, you felt like you were still going in the same direction. Oh,

Speaker 2

my goodness.

Speaker

Yeah, so.

Speaker 2

Oh, wow.

Speaker

But I, I managed, I survived, and it was, it was a fun ride.

Speaker 2

You, you did hear about the time I went on the Tron ride?

Speaker

Oh, and passed out?

Speaker 2

Yeah. It's a wonder I'm alive.

Speaker

Well, you gotta, you gotta judge these rides. Yeah. Some of them are a little bit exciting.

Speaker 2

It, that's more

Speaker

excitement- I haven't been on Tron. Yeah. I haven't been on, what's, the Snow White or the Seven Dwarfs ride?

Speaker 2

Yeah. With, yeah. That, that I hear is okay.

Speaker

I haven't been on the Seven Dwarfs. That's a- I haven't been on, in Epcot. Now, we're

Epcot Updates And Lightning Lane Costs

Speaker

gonna move to Epcot, because I used to love Epcot. Yeah. And you were there.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

And how did Epcot hold up for the holiday?

Speaker 2

It held up- Mm-hmm but it's just not the same. It's just not the same.

Speaker

More, more of what?

Speaker 2

Well, they added a whole, it took $3 billion to put a garden in, in the center.

Speaker

Well, it, that was because of the timeframe that you went. Didn't they-

Speaker 2

No, no, no didn't they have the garden show? This was the last couple of years. Oh. That, I mean, it took them $3 billion to change the decor of the front area.

Speaker

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker

So you still have, you know.

Speaker 2

Right. But the, the biggest thing going-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

in Epcot today-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

Soarin'. Soarin' Across America

Speaker

Oh, that was a fun ride,

Speaker 2

Soarin' Yeah, it's a sim- So

Speaker

they renovated it?

Speaker 2

Yeah. It's from, from right now they're celebrating the United States of America.

Speaker

Oh, cool.

Speaker 2

You know, it's a time journey that honors the heart and spirit of the nation as you soar through the 250th birthday of America.

Speaker

So it's still a similar ride-

Speaker 2

Oh,

Speaker

yeah it's just the scenery has changed. Oh,

Speaker 2

right. Right.

Speaker

L- and to tell you the truth, that was a really fun ride.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

I mean, it's not a scary ride. No. It's exciting. My mother even loved it.

Speaker 2

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker

Yeah, and she was in her 80s.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

You know, so she loved it, and she, you know, she, "Oh, that was fun. She would go on that again."

Speaker 2

Yeah. Um- Do you have another hour and a half? Wait.

Speaker

Right. Yeah. But again, Soarin' was always a long wait.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Yeah. So I do not know, and I should find out, how much those Lightning Passes are, because- Too much they are, they are pretty pricey. But then again, you know, if you're there with a whole bunch of people and you don't want to spend two hours on line, or if it's very hot-

Speaker 2

But the problem is- it helps they're selling so many of them, you'll end up waiting in the-

Speaker

You're waiting in the, in the Lightning Line.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Okay, so that's a, that's a bunch of BS.

Speaker

So you went on Soarin' in Epcot.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker

And now Guardian- Now- the Guardians of the Galaxy-

Speaker 2

Yeah

Speaker

replaced Ellen- Now- DeGeneres, right?

Speaker 2

Yes. Yes. Okay. Um,

Speaker

it- But that's a rollercoaster now

Speaker 2

right. It's, they tore the whole building down and built... It's the largest building on Epcot.

Speaker

Is it really?

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Man, oh, man, do we have to get back there. I'm gonna have to tell- Yeah my husband.

Speaker 2

Um, but that's not, I didn't do it. Oh. I, I had to bring up the fact that Junior, a grandson-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

and his father-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

they, they go to Galaxy.

Speaker

They went on it.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Okay.

Speaker 2

And, and the other thing, the biggest stop in, um, Epcot is the DVC rest area. For, for members of the DVC For

Speaker

members of the Disney Vacation

Speaker 2

Club. Club. It's above, it's above, um... Where is it? Oh, um, Imagination. You know our Imaginationers? Oh, yes. Yeah.

Speaker

Imagination.

Speaker 2

Yeah. It's over

Speaker

there.

Speaker 2

There's a, there's a lounge up above-

Speaker

Oh

Speaker 2

for the DVCs. That's for your DVC. I'm sorry if I'm talking about you,

Speaker

but- Oh, yes.

Speaker 2

Yeah. And we, you get a Coca-Cola and a bag of chips.

Speaker

Woo. That's included? That's included in your lounging time?

Speaker 2

Yes. You

Speaker

can- Oh, okay.

Speaker 2

You can get a Coca-Cola, and yeah.

Speaker

Okay. Well, you know, I, I personally did not see many fireworks on the 4th of July.

Speaker 2

Really?

Speaker

Um, we really didn't. We went out to celebrate my husband's brand-new kidney.

Speaker 2

Oh, yes. It

Speaker

was one whole year.

Speaker 2

One year, yeah.

Speaker

And we celebrated that, and then we came home and, you know, there was... Everybody was blowing fireworks all around my house.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

So we really didn't go anywhere t- after that.

Speaker 2

You didn't need to.

Speaker

Didn't need to.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

But you went- Well- and you saw fireworks at Epcot and fireworks at the Magic Kingdom.

Speaker 2

Right. Magic Kingdom was the night before the 4th.

Speaker

Okay.

Speaker 2

But yet they do the firework spectacular for the 4th as well, on the, the day before. And then at Epcot, they did their normal show, which is Illuminous: A Symphony of Us.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

And then they did a Salute to America.

Speaker

That was cool.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

That was cool. I wonder if they're gonna keep that going all year now.

Speaker 2

Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker

Yeah. I don't think so. You're gonna have to go again.

Speaker 2

I don't, I, I don't think so, because that was, like, a 4th of July thing. So that was a park thing- Mm-hmm for the 4th.

Speaker

Now,

Beating Heat With Midday Breaks

Speaker

what was the weather like? Do you remember?

Speaker 2

Hot.

Speaker

Well.

Speaker 2

Hot.

Speaker

We have been experiencing- Just like the weather forecast some high heat here. Hot. Yes. But did you get rained on?

Speaker 2

A little.

Speaker

A little. Just a little. It- And that's something that I like to tell a lot of the listeners, that if you are going to Disney, here we are in Florida. During the summer, you always have an afternoon shower, which is the norm And Disney does not shut down- No when the rain comes. You just don your poncho, which is probably sold in every store there-

Speaker 2

Right

Speaker

and just keep going.

Speaker 2

Well, the secret is stay on Disney property.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

And then get to the parks early in the morning.

Speaker

Early in the day.

Speaker 2

Mm-hmm. 2:00, come home, take a nap, get a snack.

Speaker

Right. Let the storm pass.

Speaker 2

5:00, head back to the park, whichever one you got to, and, and you'll see the magic alive as the lights come on at any park in Disney.

Speaker

So do you have plans to go to Disney soon again?

Speaker 2

Uh, September we're heading there.

Speaker

Oh, in September.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Are you gonna be staying at the Disney Vacation Club again?

Speaker 2

Well, yeah, we'll be at the, Riviera.

Speaker

Now, I didn't, I did not even know about that-

Speaker 2

Yeah

Speaker

until just recently.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

So I can't wait to hear the stories. It's a French

Speaker 2

provincial.

Speaker

It's a French provincial.

Speaker 2

And the great thing about it is the,, skyline, what is the, the-

Speaker

Right, those little-

Speaker 2

Gondola cars gondola

Speaker

cars that go

Speaker 2

over It can take you either to Epcot or the studio.

Speaker

Oh, very cool.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Very cool, very cool, because

Speaker 2

it's probably close. It's the best way, it's the best way to get in and out of a park I've ever seen.

Speaker

I haven't been on the gondola rides.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah.

Speaker

Well, I lie, because they had them in California.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

So I've been on them in California.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but-

Speaker

And now we have them here, which are a lot longer.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Yeah. But when you're coming out, you're dr- wa- you're flying over the parking lot as people are trying to get out.

Speaker

That's really cool.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

That's really cool. Yeah. And people don't realize that you can jump on and off of those rides even if you don't go to the park.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's- Yeah maybe changing.

Speaker

Oh, they're gonna change that now too?

Speaker 2

If you don't have a reservation, yeah.

Speaker

Right. Now, you didn't need to make reservations for the park, though.

Speaker 2

Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh,

Speaker

you had to make reservations-

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah to

Speaker

get into the park.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah

Speaker

Yeah, so that, they're still doing that

Speaker 2

And every time I go up and put my finger on the thing-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

call a manager over.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

Uh, are you Jay?" "Yes, I'm Jay. Yes."

Speaker

Right, they're just making sure you are you, I think.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Because that, that came into play during COVID.

Speaker 2

Oh, this was long before that.

Speaker

Right. It's-

Speaker 2

The finger thing on the scanner well, the finger thing

Speaker

came in long before that, but the, the actual appointments, reservations- Oh yeah, that to get into the park. That, yeah. That came in during COVID- Yeah 'cause they had to keep control of the amount of people in the park.

Speaker 2

Yeah, bummer.

Speaker

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So they could make more money.

Speaker

Right. That's what they're doing So now they're really making a lot of-

Speaker 2

They're limiting the number of people and making more money. Think of it. And it's all my fault.

Speaker

You did it. You did it.

Speaker 2

Because I took a survey- Right several years ago. Right. And I said, "The park's too crowded. What are you gonna do about it?"

Speaker

Oh, see? And- Look what you started

Speaker 2

and they did. And it's costing me more.

Speaker

Well, I, I flew up to New York.

Cramped Economy Seats And Cabin Upgrades

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah?

Speaker

Yeah, we took a f- we took a flight. I went on Allegiant. Were your

Speaker 2

arms tired?

Speaker

Yes, my arms were very tired. Uh, we went on Allegiant. Um, very nice people, very, you know, sociable flight attendants. The pilot was nice. Um, but I do not like their planes.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah?

Speaker

Their planes are extremely squashed.

Speaker 2

No, you're, you're just saying inside-

Speaker

Inside the plane

Speaker 2

they just don't leave much room for seats.

Speaker

I'll, I'll tell you.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Even the flight attendants were almost sidestepping down the aisle.

Speaker 2

Oh my goodness.

Speaker

Yeah. That's how... And every time, 'cause I sit on the aisle.

Speaker 2

Yeah. I'm

Speaker

a little claustrophobic.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

So I can't sit three in by the window.

Speaker 2

Right. Right.

Speaker

So I sit by the aisle, and I'm okay usually, and I put my feet under, and I put my little purse under, whatever. Um, I couldn't even get my, my bag underneath the seat. Really? It was that small, which meant- Oh my my bag was squashed. I tried to put my feet on top of the bag, and then every time the flight attendant or a person walked past, I had to crunch my shoulders in- Uh-huh so they wouldn't knock into me.

Speaker 2

Uh-huh.

Speaker

So it was a very uncomfortable flight.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker

But, like I said, everybody was polite, the service was okay, and it's quick and easy to get to s- point A to point B.

Speaker 2

Do they have s- assigned seats, or do you pay for them?

Speaker

Yes. You do have a little upcharge if you want to sit in certain spots. Mm. And I told my daughter when... 'Cause she kidnapped us. Yeah? My daughter came to visit, and she says, "Well," I said, "Well, you wanna drive back?" And she said, "Yeah, let's drive back." And then she decided last minute, "Nah, I don't feel like driving," and she just bought us tickets, and we flew back.

Speaker 2

Oh, wow.

Speaker

And she said, "Yeah, we're flying back." And I told my daughter, I said, "I'm not getting back on that plane. It was too crowded." So she-

Speaker 2

Well, you left her there, didn't you?

Speaker

Right. She stayed in New York. Yeah. I says, "I'm gonna drive back down." And she says, "No, no, I'm gonna move your seats all the way to the front." I mean, I was so close to the pilot I could've tapped him on the shoulder.

Speaker 2

Those dang kids, they know how to do things, don't they?

Speaker

But the seats really didn't change. Yeah. It gave you a little from seat to chest area, but nothing- underneath for your legs, you know? Uh-huh. So, like I said, I went Allegiant. It was inexpensive in comparison to some of the other flights.

Speaker 2

Mm-hmm.

Speaker

But I also told my husband, I said, "This is the last flight we're getting on in economy. We are going to go business class from now on."

Speaker 2

Absolutely.

Speaker

I like that.

Speaker 2

I'm going first class. Yes, I am.

Speaker

First class, I might have to wait a while for that. Yeah. But business class I'll do. I'm gonna have to

Speaker 2

rob a bank, but, uh,

Speaker

yeah. Oh, that, yeah. Have you seen some of the first class flights?

Speaker 2

Oh, j- yeah.

Speaker

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Uh-

Speaker

You got your own bedroom

Speaker 2

com- yeah, coming home from, uh, Europe this last summer. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I saw some of those, and I couldn't... I don't even think I wanna fly in first class. It's not that... You- you're- you've- you're like in a cone-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

and you're not really sitting beside anybody. Mm-hmm. And it's, it was really weird. So I, I think that was, yeah.

Speaker

Yeah. I, so- It's very strange, and some of the flights, they actually look like bedrooms.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah. On Delta, where I like to fly- Mm-hmm I fly, uh, what is it called? It's not first class, it's not third class, it's-

Speaker

Right

Speaker 2

it's, uh, premium or something. Right,

Speaker

right.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

It's not first, it's not business, it's a, like extra, extra culture

Speaker 2

thing. I get an extra six inches is what I get. Right, you

Speaker

get an extra six.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

But the United, the, uh, Emirates Airlines.

Speaker 2

Oh, phew.

Speaker

They, they have like a whole bedroom.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

You know, several bedrooms which are considered first class.

Speaker 2

Okay, I'm gonna fly. Okay. Right. This is hypothetical, you know?

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

C- I'm going overseas. Right. I'm flying. Can you lay down and go to sleep- I mean,

Speaker

I- I can't, but my husband would do it in a second.

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker

Oh, yeah. He can, he can drop, drop it a- at a hat,

Speaker 2

yeah. Yeah. Well, I can sleep in a chair. Right. I can sleep sitting up flying.

Speaker

Right.

Speaker 2

But I don't know about a bed.

Speaker

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Do I have to change- They have

Speaker

a bed. It's like a movie theater. Yeah,

Speaker 2

you- Do I have to change my clothes? You know.

Speaker

You can if you want. Some of those flights are a little long.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah.

Speaker

As a matter of fact, there's a new flight coming out which is going to be the longest flight ever. From,

Speaker 2

from where?

Speaker

Uh, it's gonna be from the United States, and I believe it's going to Australia- Oh, yeah? or Singapore. It's like 22 hours.

Speaker 2

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker

Yeah, straight.

Speaker 2

Nonstop?

Speaker

Nonstop.

Speaker 2

What plane is doing that?

Speaker

Um, I don't know off the top of my head-

Speaker 2

Wow

Speaker

because it hasn't come out yet. Wow. But the longest right now is 20-hour flight, and I think that goes to Singapore.

Speaker 2

Oh, wow.

Speaker

Yeah. So it's, they're starting to do longer flights.

Speaker 2

Do they have a flight out of Orlando to Australia?

Speaker

Not direct, no.

Speaker 2

I thought there was a direct flight. No. Where did I hear that?

Speaker

No. Not yet. I

Speaker 2

believe someone I interviewed-

Speaker

Mm-hmm

Speaker 2

for Collage Travel Radio.

Speaker

Right. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2

At one time, I thought that's what she said. They

Speaker

were working on it.

Speaker 2

Oh, really?

Speaker

Yeah, but this is not gonna fly out of Orlando.

Speaker 2

Oh, okay.

Speaker

Not, not yet anyway.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker

Not yet anyway.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

And Orlando now has Air France back, so that's, that's nice, and Air France has some really nice planes.

Speaker 2

Oh, good.

Speaker

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2

Good.

Speaker

But, well, thank you for joining me today.

Farewell And Upcoming Colorado, Banff Plans

Speaker

Well- And we can keep rediscovering America are we

Speaker 2

rattling on? Yeah.

Speaker

Is

Speaker 2

that it? Yeah. You wanna get rid of me? Is that it?

Speaker

We're rattling on. We're rattling on. But it's gonna be fun rediscovering America. Yeah. You are going to probably go to Colorado, hopefully, this year.

Speaker 2

Sometime in the year. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker

Yeah, and your wife is going up to Canada. Yeah. She's gonna go to Banff.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker

Which is gonna be nice. Yeah. Has she been there yet?

Speaker 2

No, she hasn't been there.

Speaker

Ooh, it's pretty. No. It's purty up there. Yeah,

Speaker 2

they're going in September, so.

Speaker

It's gonna be a little chilly.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Well, that's, uh, it's the time to go.

Speaker

But you're not joining her on the Banff-

Speaker 2

Oh, no. No, no

Speaker

she's going with the girls.

Speaker 2

Part of the prenuptial was that she went with the girls.

Speaker

Ah, she's going with her girlfriends. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, thank you for joining me today. And of course, like I always say, shoot for the stars, and if you only get to the Moon, at least you made the trip. This is Zee Michaelson. I'll see you on your next adventure