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Welcome To Route 66’s 100th

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Welcome to the See Michaelson Travel Podcast, a ZMAX Radio production presented by Collage Travel Media Network. This is your space for inspiration, confidence in travel, and a little bit of luxury and adventure. So whether you're traveling across the world, rediscovering America, or simply dreaming about your next escape, we hope we can help guide you. Now, here's See. Hey, this is Zee Michaelson again, and we are talking to, you'll never guess it, but I got Jay Lawrence back in the studio, and we are talking Route 66. Oh, yeah. Hey,

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Jay. It's a time to celebrate.

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It is.

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It's, it's a celebration all year long, and why would that be?

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Why would it be?

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Because it's 100 years old.

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100 years old, Route 66. A

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highway that was created in 1926. That was two years before I was born.

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Ooh, no. Really? Somehow I don't buy that. But where was, where did it start?

Route 66 In Songs And Movies

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It started in Chicago, Illinois.

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Now, you know I love all the music.

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Yeah.

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I, I love the song Route 66, and you said Nat Cole.

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Nat King Cole, yeah. He's the one that made it really hot.

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I love that song. Yeah. I love it by all the artists. I think Manhattan Transfer did it. You also said, didn't you say Bing Crosby?

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Bing Crosby and The Andrews Sisters did a version of it back in the '40s.

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Oh, wow. See? Everybody's doing it.

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Yeah.

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And naturally, we have some of the newer artists doing it.

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Well, right. Right. And what movie do you remember on Route 66?

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Well, I'm into a couple of different things. I love RV with Robin Williams.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yes, because they start singing the Route 66 song at the end of that movie.

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Uh-huh.

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And then also the cartoon Cars-

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Oh, yeah

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is representative of the Route 66 route.

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And you know, part of the, part of that movie is the cars get lost, and do you know why? Because it's off. Because Route 66-

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Yeah.

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people get lo- it's not even on GPS anymore.

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Yeah, it's off the beaten path.

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It's off... Hey, there's a thing we could do.

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Off the beaten path. We

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could get lost on the beaten path. Yeah, I think we did that.

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Gee, memories. Yeah. Memories. So now tell me something. It starts in Chicago you said. Yeah. All the way to LA. How many miles is that?

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2,400 miles.

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Wow, 2,400 miles from Chicago to LA, so that's kind of like half the country.

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Right. Right.

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S- but it goes, kind of swings down and then back up and down again- Oh and over. Well, yeah.

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If you look at a map right now, Interstate 40 is pretty much old Route 66.

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40?

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40, yeah.

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I've been on 40.

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Yeah.

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Many times.

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Well, you were right beside it. 'Cause we were there most of the time. I

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was right beside

Chicago To LA By The Numbers

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it. Yeah.

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Kind of like in the movie Cars. So it starts in Chicago, so where do we go from Chicago?

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Well, it starts on the s- on, uh, the corner of Adams Street and Michigan Avenue. And of course, I've been on Michigan Avenue many times. You turn left and you go- West.

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You go west, young man. Go west. You go

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west. Yeah. And, you know, it was really, uh, started as a new jobs project during the Great Depression.

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Really?

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1926, yeah.

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To get people working.

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Yeah, get, got people working, and it also helped people get across the country.

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Yes, but it was later on when Eisenhower came into play where he put in the actual interstate.

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Interstate, yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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But the Route 66 was pretty much the first

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the first roads, 'cause our roads weren't even paved well back then.

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Oh, right.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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So we had a lot of that. So in Chicago, of course, you're gonna see a lot of Chicago stuff.

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Right. Right.

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Now, that's a place I haven't been to other than the airport.

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Oh, really?

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Right. I've been to Chicago Airport numerous times. But I haven't gone out and visited Chicago-

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Uh-huh

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which is surprising.

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Well, there's a lot to see in Chicago. Yeah, there

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is.

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Wrigley Field, the, all the, the museums.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, Soldier Field, of course-

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Right

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where the Bears may be playing football. They may not be playing

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football. They may not be playing football.

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We don't know where they're gonna be.

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Well, my daughter worked in Chicago.

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Yeah?

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Yeah, s- she was in Chicago for a while.

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Yeah.

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Now, where do we go from Chicago, Illinois?

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Well,

Illinois Highlights And Hometown Stops

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the next stop is not very far away, and this is pretty much my hometown, my area of where I grew up.

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Your area. Yeah,

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Pontiac, Illinois.

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Pontiac, Illinois. Uh-huh. What happened to Joliet? Do we go to Joliet?

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We went to Joliet also.

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Okay.

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We, we... Did I miss Joliet already?

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You missed- Yeah yeah, you just wanted to get back to your hometown, Jay.

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Well, no. Joliet- Uh, let me see. What we got for Joliet?

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Mm-hmm. It has prisons. Is that what you wanted to avoid it- Prisons 'cause it has prisons?

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The old prison in Joliet, yeah. There's a Rialto theater there which was famous, and of course, the old prison, yes. And it has some impressive limestone buildings,

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how cool is that?

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Uh-huh.

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Okay, so now we're gonna go to Pontiac, Illinois.

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Okay. We'll go to-

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Okay, go to Pontiac

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Pontiac. Let's see, what's happening in Pontiac, Oh, Pontiac, is that before Bloomington? Somewhere in here.

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It says the Hall of Fame.

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What's that?

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Hall of Fame?

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Yes.

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What Hall of Fame? Yeah. Hall of Fame for who?

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For the Route 66.

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Oh, so it's like a little museum.

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They got vintage signs, classic photographs- Very cool stories from travelers, reminders of time when the journey was just every bit as exciting as the destination.

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Yes.

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You know, d- downtown Pontiac has, uh, colorful murals celebrating Route 66's history.

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Oh, it has the murals too. How nice. Uh-huh.

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Making Pontiac one of the most photographed communities along the entire highway.

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Very cool. Very cool.

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Yeah. Then now we've got to get to, the next one would be Springfield, right?

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No, I see Atlanta. Is there an Atlanta, Illinois?

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There's an Atlanta, Illinois, but I want to talk about Bloomington, because it's not even listed here. But that's where I've been on Route 66.

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Oh, so you were on Route 66 in Bloomington, Illinois.

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Yeah, which is just out- outside of Peoria, and, there's a great thing called Funks Grove.

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what is that famous for?

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Because Funk is a guy who grew seeds for farm seeds.

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Is that like Johnny Appleseed?

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No, it's like- Oh. it's like corn seed-

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Okay

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and Funk, he had this little plantation, and this beautiful grove i- of, trees. I mean, it was... it's just kinda like stands alone.

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In the middle of the highway

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well, it's not. You gotta turn off, you gotta- Oh,

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it's off

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of

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Route 66 off, off of

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66.

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Okay.

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But there's signs to it, and you drive there, and you go, "Wow."

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Wow.

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This is really nice." And he had a chapel built there, and things like that. So those are, that's my little Route 66 story.

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Now what we need to tell, tell a lot of people is if you're on Route 66, you're gonna wanna take your time. Yes. It's not a one-day journey. You wanna stop along the way, you wanna see some of the sights. Things like that should be really, really fun to do.

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Yes,

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yes. So this is a nice journey. So where are we going next?

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Well, you mentioned Atlanta, Illinois, which-

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Right

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which I didn't even realize there was an Atlanta, Illinois.

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I

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didn't either. And I grew up in the State of Illinois.

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Not me.

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But it, the, the visitors are greeted with a giant Paul Bunyan statue-

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Ah

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holding a hot dog.

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Holding a hot dog, not an ax?

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Pardon?

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Didn't he have an ax?

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Well, hey, I'm telling you what Paul Bunyan had here in Atlanta. He's holding a hot dog.

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He's holding a hot dog.

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Yeah. It's one of those, roadside landmarks that's, been making people smile for decades.

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Oh, that's good. And it, those are fun things too along the way. You'll see a lot of different, like, monuments and things that are completely different, you know. Right,

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right.

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So that's a lot of fun.

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Right.

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So where are we going next?

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Well,

Roadside Landmarks And Classic Diners

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Litchfield.

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Litchfield?

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Illinois.

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Illinois.

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Yeah, see, we, we just can't leave Illinois.

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Right, we're in Illinois for a long time.

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Yeah. Well, yes. It's a great place to have a fresh cup of coffee. The pie is homemade. It's a, there's a drive-in there, it's called Ariston Cafe.

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Ariston Cafe?

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Ariston, A-R-I-S-T-O-N Cafe, and it's been there since 1924.

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Ooh, is it owned by the same family

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or no? I believe it is. Wow. I believe it is. That's a biggie. And they serve home-style meals and, you know, they've got that great Midwestern hospitality.

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Very cool.

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Something that I'm full of.

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Right. Did you, did you ever stop there and have a piece of pie?

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I'm afraid I missed it.

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Oh, I know you like your pie.

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Right.

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All right. So are, are we still gonna be in Illinois or are we heading out of the state?

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Are we ready for St. Louis?

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Oh, wow, so Litchfield, Illinois, leads us to St. Louis, Missouri.

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Yeah. Well, you know-

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Meet me in St. Louis, Louis.

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What have they got in St. Louis?

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It's the Gateway to the West.

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Now they've got the arch. Of course, back then they didn't have the arch

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right.

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Long before the arch was completed in 1960s, St. Louis welcomed travelers heading west in search of an opportunity

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now, I've seen the Gateway, I've seen the arch. You've seen the arch. Right. Did you go into the arch?

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We didn't... Well, we were at the base of. We didn't get inside it. You could... There's a, there's a bus ride up.

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Uh, well, there's an elevator, yeah.

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Yeah. Mm-hmm. But no, we didn't get in it.

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Oh. Uh,

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we were at the base of it

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oh, well. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But you've seen it and I've seen it. It's pretty cool. Right. You know? I've, I've seen, um, reports on how they made the arch.

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Yes. That was something else. Route 66, you know, passed through neighborhoods in, in St. Louis that, filled with diners, service stations, and motor coach courts. You know, have you, you know what a motor coach is-

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Yes

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court?

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Yes, yes.

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I can't say the word car, court.

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I don't know why.

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Yeah. It's called a motel today. A

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motel, right.

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Yeah.

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Get your kicks on Route 66.

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Yeah.

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So, where are we going next? Are we still staying in Missouri?

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Uh, oh, you know what?

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What?

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One town we missed in Illinois.

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What town did we miss?

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Springfield.

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Oh. Springfield would be very upset if we didn't mention

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them. No, Springfield, Illinois.

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Yeah.

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And you know what that is- Springfield, Illinois it's the home of Abraham Lincoln.

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Yep.

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Uh, it's also famous for the Cozy Dog

St. Louis And Springfield Must-Sees

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Drive-In- where the country's earliest corn dog became a Route 66 tradition.

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Oh, my.

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If you're in Springfield, you gotta drive by Lincoln's home, because that is a true historic site of America.

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Oh, wow.

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I can remember when I was a kid going to Lincoln's home, and you could just kinda, like, walk in. Oh,

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wow.

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Now, now they've made it a big national monument, and it's a big parking lot. They've blocked off the block- Oh and everything, you know.

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Well, I can understand that. When I was younger, I went to Teddy Roosevelt's home in New York.

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Uh-huh.

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And I'm sure-

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You

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can pretty much walk in, right you can pretty much walk in. Uh-huh. I'm sure now it's pretty much- Mm locked and loaded for, you know, tourism. Yeah,

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for tours.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah. Wow.

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Okay. So we, we zipped out of there and into St. Louis. We went to the Gateway, and now you have something on the list here that's interesting. Yes. Cuba, Missouri?

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Cuba, Missouri.

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Tell me about Cuba.

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It's known as the Mural City.

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Why? Well- Why is it known as the Mural

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City? Cuba has transformed its downtown into an outdoor gallery with dozens of large murals celebrating the local history.

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Oh, cool.

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Route 66 and small town America is, you know, in the murals. You know, you can park

Missouri Murals And Courthouse Squares

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the car and simply stroll through town, enjoying artwork that captures the spirit of the mother road. They call Route 66 the mother road. The

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mother road.

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Yeah.

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So if you want to be on Route 66, you go to somebody and say, "Hey, I want to be on the mother road."

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Yeah.

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And it should be there. Very cool.

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Yeah.

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So where are we going after Cuba?

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Carthage, Missouri.

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Carthage.

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Uh-huh.

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And what's, what's special about Carthage?

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Well, it's, got a large courthouse. Jasper County Courthouse welcomes travelers from all kinds of generations, and i- it was built in the 1890s, so-

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Wow, courthouse from the 1890s

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yeah. And it, it's a square. You know, it... You're gonna how do you say it? You see Mid-America hometown all in one with the courthouse.

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Now, how many stops do you think is on, on The Road that we should be stopping at?

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Well, there's, like, 24.

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Oh, wow, there's 24 stops along the road. Yeah. So, um- And then- right now we're only doing, we're only up to, like, nine.

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I know. The amazing thing is- before you get to cross the Mississippi-

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Right

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and then you get to the Missouri-

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Right

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then it stretches out, so the towns are kind of closer together.

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Right.

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But o- when you get to the west- So it's one

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stop after the other after the other. Right. Right. Very cool.

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Mm-hmm. When you get to the western side, then that's when it branches out.

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Okay. So where are we going after Carthage, Missouri?

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Well, I'm not quite sure. I need to look at my map. I'm,

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I'm looking here, and it says Galena, Kansas. We're going into Kansas?

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Yeah.

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Toto, we're... I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.

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Let me see where Galena

Kansas Detour And Real Map Talk

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falls on my map.

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Mm-hmm. And I'm really big on real maps. You know, the GPS to me,

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you mentioned G- I like

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real maps

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you mentioned GPS.

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Mm-hmm.

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It's not on. Route 66 is no longer on.

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No, no, nobody wants to know it's e- in existence.

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Right, because they decommissioned it. On my paperwork I have here-

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Right

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and which, what town are we looking for?

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Galena, Kansas. Galena, Kansas. I can't believe you're lost already. We haven't even been driving down the road very long.

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Well, Galena grew up being a lead and zinc mining town.

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Oh.

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And Route 66 brought a steady stream of visitors through the town.

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Okay, so it's only like a 13-mile town.

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Right.

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Very small, very small.

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Right. You'll find a restored gas station, classic automobiles, and a reminder of simpler times when you go to Galena.

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Doesn't sound like we're in Kansas very long on 66. It looks like we're moving into Oklahoma.

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Right. Um...

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So now in Oklahoma, we're going to

Oklahoma Icons And Tulsa Finale

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Claremore?

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Yes.

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I, I know, you know, that's the home of Will Rogers.

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Boy, are you getting smart. And Will Rogers was a comic, a, a humorous-

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Right

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a newspaper columnist-

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Mm-hmm

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a movie star- Right a cowboy in, in the 1930s.

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Right. You always seen him with his... He had, like, a little verbiage that he would do, and he'd make comment and-

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Never met a man I didn't like didn't

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like.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Will Rogers became one of America's most beloved voices in the first half of the 20th century.

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Wow.

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And, uh, so there's... They have a Will Rogers memorial there celebrating a man who once said he'd never met a person he didn't like.

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Oh. So-

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So

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they do have like a little museum or something there for Will Rogers.

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Yep.

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Very cool.

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Yep.

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So these are all some of the sites that you can see along the way on Route 66.

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Right.

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Which is really cool. It's a little bit of an American history type of situation, a nice little route. And now it's not a complete highway. People don't realize you're going through towns and cities, so there are stoplights and stop signs, correct?

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I would say there are fewer stoplights and more stop signs.

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But it's not a straight highway. Like- It's not a- You're not on 10.

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No, it's not an interstate. It's the... It was the mother road that was built 100 years ago.

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Wow. Wow. Okay, so what we're gonna do now is we're gonna go to one more stop, and then I'm gonna have to ask you to come back because there's so much more. Yes. So what's our next... What's number 12 on our hit parade here?

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Number 12? Number 12.

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I think we're still in Oklahoma. Oklahoma, where the wind comes sweeping down the plain. I did see that play, by the way.

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Ardmore?

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looking for- I'm looking at Tulsa.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma will be our last stop today on Route 66. The home of Paul Harvey. Oh, really? I didn't know Paul Harvey was from there.

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Yes, yes.

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So Paul Harvey was from Tulsa, Oklahoma, and apparently Art Deco is very popular in this town.

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Yes.

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Oh, wow. You know, that is such a great road trip.

Take Your Time And Plan Next Week

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I mean, it's 2,400 miles. I wonder if you can do it in two weeks taking your time from point A to point, point Z.

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Two weeks?

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Yeah.

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Well, you could do that, but-

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Yeah, but you wanna stop along the way.

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Yeah.

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You know, and then I'm sure there's hotels and things along the way that you can go to.

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Right. Right.

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And again, it's rediscovering America. Right here in our own backyard we have some great, great things. So is there anything else you wanted to tell me about Tulsa, Oklahoma other than Paul Harvey?

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Well, I think Route 66 is really Americana, and that's why it's so popular today. And so we'll talk more about that next week.

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Next week, yes. Well, Jay, thank you for coming and joining me, and we're talking about Route 66. It's 100th anniversary, which is fabulous. 100 years of Route 66. So make plans to go drive Route 66. Thanks for joining me today. And remember, shoot for those stars, and if you only get to the moon, at least you made the trip.