Welcome And Route 66 Setup

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Welcome to the See Michaelson Travel Podcast, a ZMAX Radio production presented by Collage Travel Media Network. This is your space for inspiration, confidence in travel, and a little bit of luxury and adventure. So whether you're traveling across the world, rediscovering America, or simply dreaming about your next escape, we hope we can help guide you. Now, here's See. And, you know, here I am, Zee Michaelson, thanks for joining me today, and again, I have Jay Lawrence with me in the studio.

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You know, y- I've been on this long trip down Route 66, a 100 years old.

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100-year-old Route 66.

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Oh, that's right, the road is. I'm not 100 years old. That's the important thing.

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Now, you know something. We have been on my podcast doing Rediscovering America. Oh, yeah. What a way to rediscover America- Oh, yeah is driving this road.

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Yeah, road trip's the best way to go.

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I know, I know.

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You don't fly over it, you know. You don't boat, boat

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through it. I- it's so much fun doing road trips. Yeah. I love road trips. Right. I really do. And it's fun to stop along the way and see the sights, and we had talked roughly 12 different stops. We, we-

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From Chicago to- To- Santa Monica.

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Right. Chicago to LA is how the song goes.

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Oh, okay. But it ends in Santa Monica, but.

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Which is LA.

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Yes.

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LA's a 300-mile city.

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2,400 miles of Route 66.

Oklahoma Icons And Cowboy Roots

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Yeah, and when we last spoke, we were talking, we were in Tulsa, Oklahoma. That was the home of Paul Harvey. But now we gotta pick up where we left off, and we're still in Oklahoma.

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Arcadia.

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Arcadia. So what's Arcadia known for?

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Well, In

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1898

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there was a barn built there and it's a circular barn.

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A circular barn.

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And it fascinates visitors for, generations.

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Now, you know, there is a circular barn in Massachusetts. Well, uh- But Massachusetts isn't on Route 66.

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Right, right. But a lot of people take photographs of this great barn and, uh, you know, you travel the two lanes at a time, but there it is, the barn that was built in 1898 in Arcadia, Oklahoma.

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Wow, wow. So now we're gonna still be in Oklahoma, and we haven't even reached the midway point yet.

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No, no. We're going to Oklahoma City. Can you sing the song for me, please?

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Oklahoma City?

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No. O-

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Oklahoma, where the wind comes sweeping down the plain.

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Yeah. There were s- famous stockyards there in Oklahoma City.

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Famous stockyards.

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Uh-huh.

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Okay.

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Th- that's where, you know, a lot of the movies, uh, the Old West, where are you taking the cattle? We're taking them to Oklahoma City.

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that's right, 'cause that was probably midway getting it back across the United States- Right from the West.

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Right.

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That would make sense.

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And it certainly gives, visitors a taste of cowboy country there.

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cowboy life in Oklahoma City.

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Right.

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Yeah, I would imagine so. Now, we're gonna go from Oklahoma- We're moving into Texas?

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Texas.

Texas Towns Plus Road Trip Safety

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Texas. I think that would be Shamrock.

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Shamrock. Oh, how cute. Do they have little Shamrock signs on their, on their, uh, posters and things?

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Yeah. The, they capture the spirit of Route 66 too. It's a beautiful, town r- restored with the Dew Drop Inn.

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Oh, the Dew Drop Inn.

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Uh-huh. It-

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I've heard of that

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it has art deco designs-

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Mm-hmm

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and it's one of the most popular photographed, uh, service stations on the mother road.

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Oh, service station. So you mean gas station?

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Right.

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Wow. Yeah, that's

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cool imagine pulling in for gasoline out of Texas as the Texas sun begins to set, neon lights flicker on, and another evening adventure lies ahead right there.

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how cool is that?

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Yeah. And see, you're getting across, you're getting in the Old West now. Oklahoma to Texas- Right this is where the West begins.

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Now, you know something, when people are on these road trips, I always advise them of a couple of different things. What's that? One is I keep telling them to make sure they top off their gas tanks- Oh, yeah as they're driving. And two is to make sure they have plenty of water with them in their vehicles. Oh,

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yeah.

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Yeah. There's two different reasons. One is some of these places you're going through is gonna be hot.

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Oh, yeah.

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And two is sometimes your car can overheat.

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Oh, right. Okay.

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So have water for both you and your vehicle.

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Yes. I remember, I remember we used to have a water bottle in the front of the car.

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Right.

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Oh, that was, that was too long ago.

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Long time ago. Yeah. What- We're showing our age here, Jay.

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What was that, we saw those color cars that they used to have, didn't they? We, we went to a, a, a show once.

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We've been to a lot of shows. Okay.

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All right.

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Were they the cars that raced?

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No. Oh. No. No. It was the.. tin, tin literate.

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Oh, the tin, the tin cups. Yeah.

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Yeah. The tin cup. Mm-hmm. There you go. Yeah. There

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you

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go.

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And the reason, those were, like, kind of like the first motor homes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes, that's it. That's, that's where it was.

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Yes, we've seen those, and it's, the reason they called it tin cup is because they packed tins of food with them. Right. And that's how it got that name. So yeah, we have a little bit of nostalgia going on everywhere. So now we're going from Shamrock, Texas, to Amarillo?

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That's right. And you know- Out there in the desert

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Yep

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if that's what you call it.

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Yep.

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You know what you see.

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What do you see?

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The Cadillac Ranch.

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Oh, where the Cadillacs are dug into the ground?

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Yes.

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Oh, how cool is that?

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Yes, they're still there.

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Mm-hmm.

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I, I don't remember, I think it was in the '50s when, that someone put them in there. Right. You know, we really don't know how they got

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there. They're just

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there. But Cadillacs stacked end to end to end to end. You know, the It's, it's amazing sight to see, and you gotta get your picture taken with them.

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Yes, and they should take pictures all along the way because there's murals along the way, there's these little icons that are there, like Cadillac Ranch, and it's really open sky territory when you hit Amarillo.

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Well, and you know the other thing about Amarillo- What? is where the big Texas steak ranch is, and you gotta have a steak. I think the steak is, what, 50 ounces or something? Oh, yeah.

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It's a biggie. Yeah. It's a biggie. And you get it- Don't you get a prize- eat it all? Right.

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I wanted to get a doggy bag to take with you.

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If, if you don't eat it all, you still have to pay for it, but yes, you do get a doggy bag.

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Oh, good.

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Yeah. So now tell me, where are we going next?

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Well, you know one place that I've missed, I've missed my notes on, it, it's a word I couldn't even say

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Nope, you missed our midpoint

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I missed the midpoint?

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You missed our midpoint. Well, where is it? You missed Adrian, Texas.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yes, we are exactly midpoint in Adrian, Texas.

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And there's a big line at right across the road

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that says- It shows it's half point?

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Half point. Oh, wow. Yeah. You're 1,139 miles from Chicago, and 1,139 miles from Santa Monica.

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1,139 is the midway point in Adrian, Texas. Yes. But other than that being the midway point, is there something we should know about Adrian, Texas? Well,

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this is, there was a barber in this town that said, "People are

Midpoint Magic And Neon New Mexico

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trying to rediscover America." Oh. "They're trying to rediscover our road." And he's the person really responsible for the resurgence of the popularity of Route 66. Oh,

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wow.

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Not only at the halfway point, but that's where the excitement came from.

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So- So that's really nice- Yeah that he did this. Now, does he still have, is the barber shop still there?

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I believe the barber shop is, but he isn't.

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He's no longer there. Yeah. Well, maybe he passed it on to family.

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Yes, yes.

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Okay. Now that we've hit the midway point at 1,139-

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Yes

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what's the next one?

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Well-

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You can't pronounce the name.

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Is that-

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Tucumcari Tucumcari? Yeah.

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Tucumcari. I, I, I can't remember what I, what I like about Tucumcari, other than I could, I finally figured out how to say the word. It's such a funny

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looking word. It's probably an Indian word.

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Oh.

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You know, Native American word. Um, but it's in New Mexico, and you have a little note here that you gave me, and it says, "Where the neon still shines."

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Yes.

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So what does that mean? Well- Tell me what that means.

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Well-

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It's all neon lights?

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They got a lot of neon signs, yeah.

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Oh, cool.

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Neon really made an impression across America, you know?

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Well, people would see the neon lights, and then head towards those towns.

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Right.

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That would make sense.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so that would be exciting. And I love New Mexico. I love the dry heat. I'm really into the dry heat.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, I like dry heat.

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So are we ready for Albuquerque?

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We are. Albuquerque, New Mexico. The home

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of Gopher Bad.

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What is it?

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No.

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Who is it? Gopher Bad? I- I don't get that.

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I'm sorry. That was a movie I did in Chicago.

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Oh, I don't know that movie. Sorry.

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What was the, what was the movie? Uh, the drug dealers and all that, and

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All shot in Albuquerque

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Uh-huh.

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I don't know that movie.

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Yes, you do.

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I do?

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Yes.

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You said it was all the drug dealers of, what, from the

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1940s or something? No, no, no, no. It was, uh, I, oh, can't think of the name of the... It, it was TV series.

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Oh, it was a TV series. Yeah. Breaking Bad.

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Bingo. Thank you.

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Yeah. I've never seen one show.

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Yeah.

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My husband used to watch it.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah. He used to love Breaking Bad. He watched it all the time.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, so I'm surprised I knew the name.

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I should've worn that T-shirt today so I would remember it.

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So you'd remember it.

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Yeah.

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But Albuquerque is the Mother Road in the high desert.

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Yeah.

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Now, I used to live in the high desert in California.

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Yes.

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And it can get hot.

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Yes.

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And it can get snowy.

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Uh-huh.

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People don't realize when you're up in those altitudes, you can get some snow

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That would be great, wouldn't

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it? It would be nice sometimes. I didn't know it was like driving in the snow. Maybe that's why I live in Florida now.

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Right. Something about Albuquerque-

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Mm-hmm

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is it's a blend of, of Native Americans, Hispanic, and Western traditions all in one town.

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Oh, yes. I do love those adobe homes.

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Yeah.

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They are gorgeous. And, you know, it's so nice. I've been to Albuquerque. You know, there's some of these places I have been to. I've been to Albuquerque. I've driven past Oklahoma City. Mm-hmm. But now we're moving into another state.

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Arizona.

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We're moving into Arizona.

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Holbrook.

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Holbrook, Arizona.

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And it's the home of the Wigwam Motel.

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Oh. Again, the Wigwam Hotel, which makes me think of the cartoon Cars- Uh-huh because they had the Cone Hotel- Oh where the cars would stay in the traffic cones.

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Unlike the ordinary motel rooms, j- uh, travelers spend the night inside a teepee-shaped cabin.

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That would be cute.

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Yeah.

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I would like to go there and do that, and I'm sure that they are, uh, with the modern conveniences now.

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Right. Outside of the, of the hotel, there's m- automobiles from another era, creating memories for families, still treasured.

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Automobiles from other era. Yeah. Again, that goes back to the cartoon movie, Cars.

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Right.

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Gotta hand it to Disney. Now, I've traveled a lot on these roads. You've traveled a lot on these roads. Some people have never even thought about traveling on these roads. Uh-huh. And I really do would recommend, if you have some time, take a little tour on Route 66. See what it's like, and enjoy rediscovering America. So now we're in Holbrook, Arizona, with the wigwams.

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Mm-hmm.

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And we're going where in Arizona?

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Winslow.

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Winslow. What's Winslow known for? Well, the,

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it says that there a popular song about Winslow, Arizona, and I'm sorry, I don't know where that song is. Do you play it on ZMAX Travel Radio?

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I don't know. I've never heard of that song, Winslow, Arizona.

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Yeah. Hmm. But it's also popular for railroad and highway communities where motorists found food, fuel, and friendly faces.

Arizona Wigwams Songs And Preservation

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So it's a main stop.

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It's a main stop, but I don't remember anything about that song.

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I don't either. That's gonna be a, a kinda thing that I'm gonna have to look up. Yes. And you s- is it called Winslow?

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I, well-

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Is, is the song called Winslow?

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Well, it became a popular song-

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Popular song

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It came popular in a song, was You know, we'd have to dig up what- Winslow

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Song, Winslow, Arizona oh, apparently-

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Yes

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um, I'm seeing that it's been immortalized by the Eagles. Uh-huh. And it's not called Winslow.

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Oh.

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And, yes, Z Max Travel Radio plays it.

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What

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song was it? Take It Easy. E- By the Eagles Oh,

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all right.

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Yes. Take It Easy, that's

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what makes it- Take It Easy and Winslow, Arizona

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Arizona.

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All right.

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So that's how it came to popular- Yeah ...ize in- Yeah from the Eagles, which is really cool.

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Right.

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You know, and again, all things you can find and do around the United States. You rediscover America.

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Mm-hmm.

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And people need to do that. It's so much history, so much fun, you know, and it's great for kids because if you have a lot of kids that are starting to learn about some of the history, what a way to give them hands-on experiences.

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Yes.

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You know, I, I was bored to death in school by a history teacher.

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Oh, really?

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Yes. But if they would've done this and took me around-

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Uh-huh

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that brings it to life.

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Right.

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And it makes it more exciting.

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Yes.

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And people need to learn our history. So we're still in Arizona. Where are we going next?

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Well, uh, still, uh, it's S-E-L-G-M-A-N.

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Selgman? I- Sel- Yeah. I'm, I don't know.

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And, and I've got to confess, I've made a mistake.

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You made a mistake. Yes. Did you switch my cities around on me

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there,

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Jay?

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Well, yeah, when, when Interstate 40 bypassed the community, this is where the barber came in.

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Oh.

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Angelo DiGaudio, he was an Italian.

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Right.

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Uh, he refused to let the old motor road disappear.

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Oh, okay.

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And he helped launch the Route 66 preservation movement, inspiring communities across America to protect a highway's remarkable history.

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So that was the town that saved Route 66. Uh,

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yes, it wasn't this- Oh it wasn't the midpoint. It- It was this town-

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Ah

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where the barber was.

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Okay,

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so

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that's- And that's the

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story

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so he's, he's got a lot of say in that because that's a great thing. Yeah. That's the town that saved Route 66.

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The town That's way, way to go.

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Yeah.

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The town that saved Route

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66. Route 66. Now, we're gonna be moving right along here to a place I've been to.

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Where's that, Kingman?

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Kingman, Arizona.

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Tell me about it.

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It's in the middle of nowhere. And again, I kinda reiterate, make sure you top off your gas tanks.

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Well, it's nestled in the mountains of the northwestern Arizona.

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Yes. And it's, it's a beautiful little area. You got a lot of, uh, mining type stuff that goes over there, and I'm not sure, but I believe that's where the mules or donkeys are roaming, roaming around.

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Oh, yeah?

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Yeah. And so in Kingman, Arizona, it is hot, it is in the middle of nowhere, but it is a great place to stop because that's where the highway does come alive.

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And they've got the classic, uh, a museum there, of course.

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Of course.

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I think each town practically has their own museum.

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well, every time you go to these towns, it's got museums. Uh-huh. I do love museums But I don't know, Kingman, Arizona, I loved. You know, I've been there several times-

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Uh-huh

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because I lived in California for a long period of time.

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Oh.

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Yeah, and it is along Route 66. It's in the northwest quadrant of Arizona, and it has murals, which is great. It has a library, which is fabulous. It also has a locomotive park-

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Oh

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believe it or not. Yeah, so there's a lot of things to do all on this route.

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The spirit of Route 66- Mm-hmm is still alive in Kingman,

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Arizona.

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Arizona. Yes, sir.

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So now we are moving- Well- out of Arizona

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we're gonna cross the Colorado River.

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Okay, we're going across the Colorado River, which I've

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been in. Into Needles, California.

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I've been in the Colorado River.

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Really?

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Literally.

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Oh, really?

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Literally in the river, yes.

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Was it cold?

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Uh, not the day I was there, because it was the middle of summer.

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Oh, yeah?

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Yes,

Needles Heat Tips And Santa Monica Finish

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and I was... I got thrown into the drink.

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Oh.

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So yes. Well,

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Needles is the gateway to the Golden State. It's a state you love.

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Yep, I've lived in California for 16-plus years. I know exactly where Needles, California is. It is a desert oasis. It is on the Colorado River. Um, the Colorado River, if people don't know, does go through the Grand Canyon.

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Yes.

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So it is another highlight of traveling- So s- on the roads

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so you've been driving long hours through Arizona's desert.

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Yep.

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Then Needles offers a welcome relief.

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Now, I gotta let people know, I used to travel a lot from Los Angeles into Arizona.

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Uh-huh.

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I traveled on the major highways.

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Yeah.

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Um, but even on the major highways, there were signs that would tell you in the middle of summer, "Shut your air conditioner off."

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Oh, wow, yeah.

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Because it would get very, very hot, you know, 116, 120 in the shade, and your car could overheat, particularly if you're running your air conditioner.

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Right.

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So they tell you, "Shut your air conditioner off." And again, that's why I say not only pack water for yourself, but make sure you have extra water just in case you overheat.

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Well, Needles gives you a chance to cool off before the final push towards the west.

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The final push towards the west.

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Palm trees, sunshine.

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Now, I know from Needles to our last point-

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Yeah

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there's a lot in between.

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Well, there's a lot in between, but-

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Yeah, and the last point is?

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S- well, you're saying LA, and I'm- saying Santa Monica, 'cause that's where the monument is.

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Right, so Santa Monica, California, is where it finally ends, but if you're listening to the song, it runs from Chicago all the way to LA. To

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LA, yeah.

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So.

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Yeah, so that's 2,400 miles across eight states, and y- you get a view of the Pacific Ocean, where there, there's a sign that says, "End of the trail."

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Yes

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sign that the-

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Yes

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that's the end of the greatest road trip ever. Right.

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Now, if you're in California, you can go in reverse. There's nothing to say you can't go reverse of it.

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Yeah, right.

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So you can go from California to Chicago. Now, I've seen Santa Monica. I've been on the beach in Santa Monica. It's, it's a fun beach. And again, it's gonna be crowded when you get to Santa Monica. You are gonna have crowds there.

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Mm-hmm.

Speaker 19:00

So, wow, we've gone 2,400 miles. This is part two- Wow of rediscovering America of the 100th anniversary of Route 66.

Speaker 2 19:10

Yeah. I understand you're celebrating that on, your radio station. What's the name of the radio station?

Speaker 19:15

ZMags Travel Radio.

Speaker 2 19:16

ZMags Travel Radio.

Speaker 19:17

Right. Yeah. So we are giving little tips and hidden tricks for Route 66. Right.

Speaker 2 19:23

Right.

Speaker 19:23

Yes. But of course, like I always say, thank you for joining me today, and joining Jay, 'cause I'm sure Jay is gonna be getting on the road again and coming into the studio again, so I have to catch him when he- when I can.

Speaker 2 19:34

Oh, oh, oh, oh. God, I'm breathing really hard.

Speaker 19:38

And like I always say, reach for those stars, and if you only get to the Moon, at least you made the trip. Thank you for joining me, and I'll see you on our next adventure.