
People Interacting with People
A podcast about People Interacting with People. In April 2015, I became homeless. I decided to embrace this homelessness and what followed was five years of nomadic life, over 250 moves in Canada and the United States, on an average budget of roughly $22 a day.
While sitting in a 24 hour diner in Toronto on my first two homeless nights, a young man sat beside me and when I told him about my experience - spending 9 hours each night at the diner, getting a free coffee and a brownie on my second night - he turned to me and asked:
"Do you think you'd be having the same experience if you were Black?"
Over those next five years, I had a series of "chance" encounters with Black people and had some very interesting conversations. I documented some of them in writing but when I compiled them into a 300 page script during the pandemic, I realized that - in writing it myself - I had lost the authenticity of the other person's voice.
And so, I decided to hit the road and reconnect with some of these wonderful people while also leaving myself open to meeting new ones. These are our conversations.
People Interacting with People
S3 EP4 Part 1: Having the Whitest Name Ever, Serving in Iraq, Surviving in the Chain Gang, Liking Yourself, & Living in the Moment w/ Gordon in North Carolina
In this episode, I sit down with Gordon after meeting him just a couple of days before and chatting for hours. Gordon is from a small town in Georgia, has served in Iraq, has been incarcerated or "in the chain gang", and has a very interesting perspective when it comes to the Black experience.
To see photos of my guests, check out my Instagram page @pipsperspective